5/8/2025

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Operator

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Carvus Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2025 Business Update and Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Zach Kubo of Real Chemistry. Please go ahead, sir.

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spk10

Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us today on the call. This conference call is being webcast with presentation slides. We encourage participants to join the webcast in order to view the slides. You can find the link to join the webcast on the Investor Relations homepage of the Carvus website. Turning to slide two, I would like to remind everyone that comments made by management today and answers to questions will include forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions as of today and are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by those statements, including the risks and uncertainties described in Corvus' quarterly report on Form 10Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2025, and other filings the company makes with the SEC from time to time. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. The agenda for the call is shown on slide three. We will begin with a short overview of the first quarter financial results, followed by a detailed review of the Socolitinib atopic dermatitis Phase I data announced today and being presented at the Society for Investigative Dermatology annual meeting this week. We will then provide a broader business update and then open the call for questions and answers. On the call from Corvus are Dr. Richard Miller, Chief Executive Officer, Leif Lee, Chief Financial Officer, Jeff Arcaro, Chief Business Officer, and Dr. Suresh Mohabashyan, Vice President of Clinical Development. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Leif Lee. Leif?

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Leif Lee

Thank you, Zach. I will provide an overview of the key financial highlights from our first quarter. Research and development expenses in the first quarter 2025 total $7.5 million compared to $4.1 million for the same period in 2024. The $3.4 million increase was primarily due to higher clinical trial and manufacturing costs associated with the development of Socolitinib as well as an increase in personnel related costs. Net income for the first quarter 2025 was $15.2 million, including a non-cash loss of $0.5 million related to Angel Pharmaceuticals, our partner in China. In addition, we recorded non-cash gain of $25.1 million from the change in fair value of Corvus's warrant liability during the first quarter 2025. This compares to a net loss of $5.7 million for the same period in 2024, which included a $0.2 million non-cash gain related to Angel Pharmaceuticals. Total stock compensation expense for the first quarter 2025 was $1.3 million compared to $0.7 million for the same period in 2024. As of March 31, 2025, Corvus had cash equivalents and marketable securities totaling $44.2 million as compared to $52 million at December 31, 2024. In May 2025, holders of ,945,000 common stock warrants exercised all of their warrants in advance of the June 30, 2025 expiration date, which resulted in cash proceeds to Corvus of approximately $31.3 million. Richard Miller also exercised all of his 559,000 warrants. All of the warrants were exercised at $3.50 per share. Based on our current plans, we expect our current cash, including the warrant proceeds, to fund operations into the fourth quarter of 2026. I will now turn the call over to Richard, who will review the Socolitinim Phase 1 data reported today and discuss other company progress and updates.

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Richard

Thank you, Leif, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for our update call. I am excited to be joining you from San Diego, site of the Society for Investigative Dermatology Annual Meeting, or SID. Data from our Phase 1 trial with Socolitinim in patients with atopic dermatitis will be presented in a poster later today and on Saturday in an oral session given by Dr. Albert Hsu from the Department of Dermatology at Stanford University Medical Center. We view the data as very encouraging, with all treatment cohorts demonstrating a favorable safety and efficacy profile compared to placebo. Cohort 3 data is especially interesting, demonstrating earlier and deeper responses compared to cohorts 1 and 2. In addition, the latest biomarker data from the trial continues to support the ITK inhibition mechanism of action, including the potential induction of anti-inflammatory T regulatory cells. I will review the details of the data being presented at SID, along with an overview of the ongoing trial and our future plans for the Phase 1 trial and the planned Phase 2 trial in atopic dermatitis. Slide 6 shows the design of the Phase 1 clinical trial. Eligible patients have met the HANF and RICA criteria and have moderate to severe atopic dermatitis who have failed at least one prior systemic or topical therapy regimen. There are four cohorts that are sequentially enrolled, and we have completed enrollment in the first three cohorts of the trial. 16 subjects are enrolled in each cohort, four placebo and 12 actives. The study is double-blind. Neither the patient nor the doctor know the treatment assignment. The placebo and active tablets are indistinguishable. The company is not blinded, and we are able to evaluate the data as the study progresses. We wanted to maintain the ability to adjust or amend the trial based on available data as the study progressed, since this is a novel agent with a mechanism of action not studied previously in this indication. Patients receive study drug or placebo for 28 days, and then they are followed for an additional 30 days off of therapy for a total of 58 days on study. We designed the study in this way to evaluate safety and efficacy while on the drug and to identify the possibility of persistent effects after the drug is discontinued. The endpoints of the trial are safety and efficacy measured by EASY, Eczema Error and Severity Index scores, and IGA Investigator Global Assessment. Each of the cohorts examines a different dosing regimen. The four cohorts are first, 100 milligrams oral twice a day for a total dose of 200 milligrams per day. Second, 200 milligrams oral once a day, a different schedule, but also a total dose of 200 milligrams per day. The third cohort, 200 milligrams oral twice a day for a total dose of 400 milligrams per day. Fourth cohort, 400 milligrams oral once a day. These doses were selected based on our experience in T cell lymphoma patients. We have shown that these doses result in significant or complete ITK target occupancy. 200 milligrams twice a day is the dose we are evaluating in our ongoing Phase III registration lymphoma trial. The next slide shows the characteristics of the 48 patients enrolled and treated in cohorts 1, 2 and 3. The placebo and socolytinib groups are shown as well as the combined cohorts. There are a few characteristics to point out. The mean baseline easy scores in cohort 3 for both the socolytinib and placebo groups was about 27 to 28, significantly higher than cohorts 1 and 2, which were in the range of 17 to 20. This indicates that cohort 3 patients had worse disease at baseline. Consistent with this is that cohort 3 patients also had a higher percentage of patients who failed prior systemic therapies. In fact, two treated patients had disease that was refractory or resistant to depixant. There is a high percentage of African Americans in all groups. Such patients are reported to have worse prognosis. Generally, the socolytinib and placebo patients are very well balanced with regard to patient characteristics. The cohort 3 placebo patients are younger, but age is not a prognostic variable. Now let's move on to the efficacy results, which are shown in the table on slide 8. This table shows the results at day 28 for patients in the socolytinib and placebo groups. Cohorts 1 and 2 are combined since the characteristics and results were very similar. The left side shows results for the combined cohorts 1 and 2, and the right side shows the results for patients in cohort 3 that have completed 28-day follow-up, 8 active and 4 placebos. Four additional patients in cohort 3 receiving active drug have completed day 15 follow-up, but have not yet completed the 28-day follow-up. For cohorts 1 and 2, the mean reduction of easy score in the placebo group is .6% and is .6% for the socolytinib group, an absolute difference of 24.0%. For cohort 3, the mean percent reduction of easy score in the placebo group is .1% and is .1% for the socolytinib group, an absolute difference of 29.0%. Looking at easy 50, we see that both placebo and socolytinib treated patients often achieve easy 50. The situation is much different for easy 75, easy 90, and IgA 0 or 1, which are the endpoints considered to be clinically meaningful. No placebo patients reached easy 75, easy 90, or IgA 0 or 1. In the socolytinib group for cohorts 1 and 2, 29% achieved easy 75 and 4% achieved easy 90, while in cohort 3, 63% achieved easy 75 and 13% achieved easy 90. 21% of the patients in the cohort 1 and 2 socolytinib groups achieved IgA 0 or 1, while in cohort 3, 25% in the socolytinib group achieved IgA 0 or 1. The next slide shows the kinetics of response for the patients treated with socolytinib in each of the cohorts 1, 2, and 3, and the combined placebo patients from all three cohorts. The orange line represents placebo. You can see that cohorts 1 and 2, represented by the blue and red lines respectively, begin to separate from placebo at day 15 and show continued separation at day 28. This separation is maintained during the 30-day post-treatment period. The curves for cohort 1 and 2 are nearly overlapping, indicating that there are no differences in the twice per day compared to the once per day dosing regimen. It appears that QD dosing is possible for this drug. The green line, which represents cohort 3, shows earlier and deeper separation from placebo at day 8, with easy score improvement continuing through day 15 and 28. Cohort 3 data includes all 12 socolytinib-treated patients in the cohort through day 15 and then for 8 patients at day 28, as there are four patients that have not yet reached their 28-day follow-up. Of note, those four patients in the socolytinib group are demonstrating results at day 15 that are consistent with the other patients, so we should expect that trend to continue to day 28. All placebo patients have reached the day 28 follow-up. I would like to point out that the downward slope of the curves in all treatment cohorts at day 15 to 28 suggests that longer treatment duration could potentially deepen responses further. On slide 10, we show the same analysis as the prior slide, but with the data for cohorts 1, 2, and 3 combined, shown in the blue line. This is the data from all patients. Separation from placebo begins by day 15, and by day 28, it is statistically significantly better than the placebo, with a P equal to 0.03. The next slide summarizes the efficacy for each treatment cohort and for the combined placebos. No placebo achieved EZ75 or IgA0 or 1. Significant differences are seen for the treatment groups compared to placebo, with cohort 3 appearing to be better than the other cohorts. Data from the combined SOCOLITINIB cohorts is statistically significantly better than placebo. Now let's review the safety. As shown on this slide, there were no significant safety issues observed with SOCOLITINIB, with no differences between treatment and placebo groups. Only one treatment-related adverse event was seen in a patient receiving SOCOLITINIB, a grade 1 nausea. No clinically significant laboratory abnormalities were seen. The total treatment experience with SOCOLITINIB now involves over 100 patients with T cell lymphoma or atopic dermatitis, representing approximately 9,000 patient treatment days. In our lymphoma trial, some patients have been on continuous daily therapy for up to two years. Based on these results, we have amended the Phase 1 trial protocol as outlined on slide 13. At the bottom of the slide in purple, we show that the previously planned cohort 4 is being replaced with an extension cohort that will evaluate an additional 24 patients at the 200-milligram, -per-day dose given for eight weeks with an additional 30-day follow-up without therapy. Based on our studies of occupancy and pharmacokinetics, we determined that cohort 4 would not likely provide more useful information, and by replacing the cohort with a new cohort, we don't expect to lose any time. The 24 patients will be randomized in a blinded fashion, -to-one with placebo, 12 active and 12 placebo. We believe this amendment gives us the opportunity to evaluate the potential for greater efficacy with longer treatment duration. We anticipate data from the extension cohort will be available in the fourth quarter of this year. This additional experience should help optimize the design of our Phase 2 trial, which we are working on in parallel and remain on track to initiate before the end of this year. Phase 2 will likely evaluate different doses and durations of therapy, including -per-day administration of the drug. In conclusion, we continue to be encouraged by the results from the trial, which show a favorable safety and efficacy profile with a convenient oral tablet. Key highlights from the data include all three cohorts showed a significant reduction in easy score at 28 days of treatment with clear separation from placebo. Cohort 3 with 200 mg -per-day dose showed earlier and deeper responses than cohort 1 and 2. Data that is consistent with our pharmacokinetic analysis. Cohort 1 and 2 results evaluating 200 mg -per-day versus 100 mg -per-day dosing showed no differences in activity, suggesting that QD dosing is possible. Post-treatment, all three cohorts showed a sustained benefit for 30 days, potentially due to increased Treg cells. No rebound events, such as seen with JAK inhibitors, was observed. The safety profile across all three cohorts shows SOAPylitinib is very well tolerated. Based on the results to date, we are adding a new extension cohort that will evaluate longer 56-day or 8-week treatment duration. More broadly, the safety, mechanism of action, and other properties suggest that SOAPylitinib could be an important new treatment for a broad range of immune diseases. Now for a brief business update for the quarter. We continue to enroll patients in our registrational Phase 3 trial of SOAPylitinib in patients with relapsed peripheral T-cell lymphoma, driving towards interim data in late 2026. The first patient has been treated in our Phase 2 trial of SOAPylitinib in patients with ALPS or autoimmune lymphoproliferative syndrome. Depending on enrollment trends, it is possible we could see initial data from the Phase 2 ALPS study in late 2025 or early 2026. In closing, the SOAPylitinib results in atopic dermatitis further underscore its broad potential for a range of oncology and immune disease indications. This includes our clinical programs for PTCL, atopic dermatitis, and ALPS, our planned study for solid tumors, and a long list of immune diseases that we have the potential to address with SOAPylitinib or our next generation ITK programs. We are delighted with the early exercise of warrants announced today, which results in an additional $31 million and enables us to advance SOAPylitinib on multiple fronts, including key data from the next 24 patients in the atopic dermatitis trial, which we expect to have in the fourth quarter of 2025. Current cash takes us to late 2026. We look forward to providing updates on our programs in the coming quarters. I will now turn the call over to the operator for a questions and answer period. Operator?

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Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Aiden from Leidenberg. Please go ahead.

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Aiden

Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Congratulations, Rich, with the great data. A couple of questions on my end. So, it seems like your cohort 3 EZ75 data at week 4 beats the Dupixent data at week 16. And it also seems that your data is actually getting closer to JAK inhibitors than Dupixent. So, do you think eventually, socolytin would be used ahead of Dupixent and competing with JAK inhibitors? Just curious of your opinion.

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Richard

Thank you for the question, Aiden. Well, first of all, the cohort 3 is a small sample size, so we have to put that in a little bit perspective. But, yeah, I think that our data at four weeks is competitive with other agents that are approved for atopic dermatitis. I do see with the safety and convenience that we have with an oral tablet that this could become an early line of systemic therapy. You know, we have a lot more work to see exactly where that fits in. But I think that the work we've done here shows a novel mechanism which, you know, has the potential to be used early on in the therapy of atopic dermatitis. Thank

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Aiden

you. I appreciate that. Another question I have is in terms of the efficacy curves and again, looking at JAK inhibitors from JAKs, I think it's plateaus at week 8. And based on socolytin mechanisms of action, where do you think can this potentially plateau? Is it going to be week 8, 12, 16? Any thoughts on this?

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Richard

Well, yeah. So, look, you know, we're struck by the fact that the curves are still decreasing, you know, from 15 to 28 days in a pretty steep slope. And then it flattens out as soon as you stop the drug. So the question, I mean, it begs the question, if you were to continue therapy, would you get deeper, better responses? And so we want to test that in our amended protocol. We also have examples in our study of patients who were responding, were continuing to get better at day 28, including some of the very sick ones. They were getting better. They were by day 28. We had to stop the drug by protocol. So it really does raise the question and even raised by their physicians, gee, why can't we continue this since they were improving on the therapy?

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Aiden

Thank you. Thank you for your help. And the last question is, is it significant jump in easy efficacy between cohort 2 and cohort 3? And obviously, as I mentioned, cohort 3 had even more severe patients. So how to explain such a sharp jump in efficacy? And again, it's small numbers, et cetera, but just curious on your thoughts on this.

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Richard

Well, we have more drug. It's twice the drug cohort. Three is double the dose total daily dose compared to cohorts one and two. So the dose of drug has been doubled and very, very careful analysis we did from our lymphoma patients shows that when you raise the dose to that level, you pretty much have occupancy 24 hours a day. And that could be that could be important. So it makes a lot of sense. You know, we we ended up at 200 BID in our lymphoma study, you know, after carefully looking at a lot of different dose levels. So this all makes perfect sense. And listen, even early on, I think back in December, January, when we were talking about this, we always said we expected the third cohort would be would be better. And it is now. I think it's still an open question whether 200 BID versus maybe 400 once a day would be equal. So we need to ultimately test that. And that's something we're thinking about in our phase two trial design.

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Aiden

Thanks so much. Congratulations again with this great data.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Greg from Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead.

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spk04

Oh, great. Thanks for taking my questions. We'll extend our congrats on the data in atopic dermatitis as well. I was wanting to ask about the modification to the phase one study and the extended duration cohort. I think I completely understand the logic of wanting to treat longer. I think I heard and I might have misunderstood, but I think I heard that you might consider adding a QD dose in that. And so if that is indeed true and given the comments that the 400 QD dose may not be all that differentiate, I'm just wondering what that potential QD dose would be if you were to test that in the extended duration cohort. Thanks.

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Richard

The extended duration is 24 patients, 12 active, 12 placebo. So one dose, I mean, a single dosing regimen will be studied 200 milligrams BID.

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spk00

Okay, thank you. Thank you.

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Richard

What I mentioned is in. Yeah. Yeah.

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spk04

Okay, so it does seem like optimally, at least as of today, 200 milligram BID seems to be the optimal dose across both your oncology and at least atopic dermatitis indications.

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Jack

That's correct.

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spk04

Okay, thank you for that. And then if I could ask, just going back to the data that you shared today, if we look at the data in cohort two, the difference, there was a difference in what was seen on at least easy 75 with numbers coming down. And I'm going to assume that's because of the extra patients that you included. You didn't really see them achieve easy 75. And so as I'm thinking now about the remaining four patients that have not been reported out yet, because I don't think they've finished follow up. Any thoughts on what their potential contribute contribution could be to the efficacy scores that you're seeing as of today? Thanks.

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Richard

So I'm not totally sure what you're saying that the numbers for the 200 QD are a little bit lower than we showed in January or saying the patients. Yeah. Okay. First of all, again, small numbers, but a couple of those patients were easy 72 and a 60. I mean, some of this is really very close. So I think it was

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spk00

really,

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Richard

there was really no substantive difference. And if you look at our cohort three, if you look at the easy scores in the eight patients at day 15 and the four that are also at day 15, they're darn close. And you can see that actually, if you look at the standard error bars on the green are very tight.

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spk04

Okay, maybe one last one if I'll sneak in, it should be a short, easy question to answer. When would you expect to share the complete cohort three data

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spk03

from all 12 patients?

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Richard

I think we could share that in a press release, probably in a month or two.

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spk03

Okay. Thank you so much. And congratulations again on the data.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Lee from canter. Please go ahead.

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Lee

Hey, congrats on the data as well. Maybe a couple of questions from us. The first just on the placebo group. When I look at the easy change from baseline looks like this group also went down and didn't really rebound. So I guess the question is, is this placebo effect typical compared to other 80 trials and was the placebo effect driven by a handful of patients?

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Richard

So there were placebos that rebound and get worse. In fact, if you look at the standard error bars on the placebo, you'll see that they're quite broad. And so there were a couple of patients that in fact did get worse. And you know, is this standard? Actually, I think our placebos behaved pretty much like others. I mean, some recent studies have had even more, I guess, more improvement in placebo groups, but we really haven't seen that. One of the things we did and didn't really have time to go into this in the presentation is we track the easy scores. If you look at the graphs on slides nine and 10 screening to baseline, that's a period of about two weeks. That's the time the patient comes in and goes through the necessary testing to make sure they're eligible. And so easy scores are done at the beginning of that. And of course, before they go on treatment and know how stable they are for all the groups. So this is a this is a tribute to the physicians and our staff and the training in terms of easy scores and how stable they were. But the minute you start taking a pill, there is a placebo effect, clearly. And some of those placebos improve. So there's nothing strange about our placebos here. I think that one thing is our placebos 0% of the easy 75s and 90s. That's much lower than you'll see on the, you know, the pics and their Jack inhibitor studies where you'll see 10 15 20% reach easy 75 or IJ 01. But keep in mind those studies are done longer. So there there you're on study for three months or six months or longer. So the longer you're on study, the more there is a chance that a placebo could have a an improvement and reach that.

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Lee

Okay, I'm doing. Yeah, thanks for clarifying that. And then, you know, just curious if you see any differential responding patients with or without prior systemic treatment.

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Richard

Ah, too early to talk about that. But we had in cohort three, two patients. One was completely refractory to depiction had a baseline easy in the mid forties. Another. Okay, let me just talk about that patient first. That patient had failed to pics and didn't respond at all. Jack inhibitor and method. Trek state didn't respond to any of that went on our drug and improved significantly was improving throughout the study. But again, we had to stop at day 28. Physician wanted us to continue, of course, but we couldn't. Second patient was a patient with easy in the high thirties was on to pics and for a while responded to that then progressed again was put on to pics and again did not respond did not respond at all went on our drug had an easy 90 achieved an easy 90 on our drug. So that's an equals to. So I don't know if responder versus non refractory of or resistant versus, you know, no prior systemic therapy. I don't know what what the prognostic significance of that is because we only have a couple of those patients. But I would suggest that given our mechanism of action is not overlapping with those agents, I would see no reason why there would be any difference between someone who had a Jack or a depiction or not. So I think all of this is falling into line very consistent, you know, based on what we've learned in lab that what we've learned in animal models and frankly what we've learned from our lymphoma studies.

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Jack

Great congrats again.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Jones from open Heimer. Please go ahead.

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Jeff Jones

Good afternoon guys and congrats again on the really, really outstanding data here. Richard, you've talked a little bit about receptor occupancy. Have you looked in these patients that through cohort three of receptor occupancy at all to see if there might be differences in what you've seen with the T cell lymphoma patients versus a D patients.

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Richard

We have not looked in these patients because we've done so many lymphoma patients and this is just chemistry. Jeff, if you have a if you have a concentration of a certain level, you're going to bind that receptor. It's a covalent drug and we know what that level is. By the way, it's three hundred nanograms per M. L. Of drug.

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Jack

Okay. And I.

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Jeff Jones

In looking at this data, obviously, the easy seventy five numbers came down somewhat from what you initially reported from a subset of the cohort to patients. And I believe that was around a fifty seven percent easy seventy five and that number is somewhat similar to the sixty three percent year reporting now for cohort three and and and equals eight out of the total twelfth treated patients at this point. Clearly, the drugs highly active and I guess it's just a question. What is what particular is giving you confidence in the dose effect you're seeing between cohort two and three, given the small numbers at this point.

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Richard

So, first of all, again, look at look at the kinetic curve on nine. Look at slide nine and the kinetics of response. I mean, not only is there a deeper response with it with cohort three, but it's earlier. We do know there's more receptor occupancy and we had sicker patients in cohort three. I mean, substantially sicker patients. And again, if we look at the cohort three day, fifteen data, it's all pretty tight. So that gives us confidence and with regard to the cohort to changing again, very small number and easy seventy five is important. And it's somewhat arbitrary. As I mentioned earlier, a couple of the follow up patients or subsequent patients had, you know, easy's in the low seventies didn't quite make it. And that's just luck of the drawer. The fact of the matter is that at twenty eight days, a substantial number are responding. And in fact, I would even argue that in the cohort three, even if the next respond is in the next set of patients didn't respond, you still have what a fifty percent easy seventy five, which is a pretty good result.

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Jeff Jones

No, I appreciate that Richard. And I think the kinetics really help with that with that story and the fact that all the patients are through day fifteen here. I guess one last question just on the runway guidance that you gave. Can you tell us what's included? What trials are included in that? Because you guys have got a lot on your plate right now.

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Richard

So, let me deflect that to lace. Can you

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Leif Lee

sure. So it includes the trials that that Richard laid out one one, the extension cohort part of our phase one trial, starting the phase two trial continuing with our phase three lymphoma trial. And at the end of the year, starting a solid tumor trial, a small phase one trial, it includes all of those trials.

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Richard

Great. Thank you guys very much and congrats again.

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Jack

Okay, maybe we have time for one more question or.

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Richard

Operator.

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Operator

Yes, we have one more question coming coming from the line of Roger song from Jeffery's. Please go ahead.

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Roger song

Okay. Okay. Great. Yeah, great. Yeah, congrats to the data as well. Thank you for taking the question. Maybe just two quick one. One is just want to clarify understanding your face when extension cohort will be a BID 200 milligram a week. But you mentioned something for phase two, you're considering QD as one of the those cohort. Would that be 400 milligrams or lower or higher? And then if it's a 400 milligram, so what's the seating on the dose in the safety profile? And I have a quick follow up. Thank you.

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Richard

All right, so first of all, remember in lymphoma, we went up to 600 milligrams BID and didn't see any DLT's or nationally tolerate dose was not reached. So Roger, we have not finalized the phase two trial yet, so I'm a little hesitant to give you exactly what the design of that is. What it'll have is. So what we're going to do is to at least two active dose groups and one you want to make lower. Hopefully that has a lower response. One you want your real dose and then of course we'll have placebo. So I in 200 milligrams BID will certainly be one of the one of the active doses. So then I think that we would either look at 200 QD. Maybe that's one dose level or maybe the 400 once a day. Alright, so we have not finalized that yet, and part of the reason for doing more patients. I mean, part of what we're trying to do is confirm this 200 BID, get more measurements, look at more things. I should also mention I didn't include this in the presentation, but if you look at our poster and and the presentation, Dr. Chu will make on Saturday. There are there are changes that are emerging in the cytokines and in the T reg cells and cohort three is is superior. The changes I should let me say it this way. The cohort three changes are more dramatic.

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Roger song

Got

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Jack

it.

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Roger song

Yeah, that's yeah. Okay, that's very helpful. Maybe just quick quick last one. Understanding your cash runways covering all the phase two and then idea or the other indications. Just about the thinking about the partnership. Do you would you speaking, you know, the discussion even before the phase two? Thank you.

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Richard

No, we're we're going to blast ahead on our own. We recognize, however, that developing drugs for a range of autoimmune diseases is is difficult or complex. We are engaged in various discussions with companies. But in the meantime, we're going to push forward. We met with the extra cash we got yesterday. We can move through our extension, which I think is going to be very important milestone. Get into phase two and move forward. We're not dependent on any partners.

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Jack

Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I think that

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Richard

I think that is there one more question there. Okay, we'll take another question. We have

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Operator

one last question coming from the line of Sean Lee from H. C. Wayne. Right. Oh, yeah. Please go ahead.

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Sean Lee

Hey, good afternoon guys and congrats on the exciting results and thanks for taking my question. I just asked one because we're looking at the almost non existent side effects of this drug. What are your thoughts on potential combinations either for or other indications?

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Richard

Thanks. Lots of people are bringing up that question. Thank you for asking it because it has a non overlapping mechanism with other drugs and because of its safety and because it's oral and conveniently administered. There is an opportunity to combine with other agents. And I mean, there's a big list of agents. I mean, I obviously the aisle for 13 like a depict sent jack inhibitors wouldn't be a crazy idea. Although I would worry about the toxicity of the jack inhibitors, the anti aisle 13. You know, so I think that there's a lot of opportunities there, but for now we're going to be plowing ahead with monotherapy.

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Jack

Okay, thanks for that. All

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Richard

right. All right. I think that concludes our conference call. Thank you all so much for participating. We look forward to providing updates on our programs as we move forward. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you everyone for participating.

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