5/14/2026

speaker
Melissa
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Canadian Solar's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Melissa, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Wina Huang, Head of Investor Relations at Canadian Solar. Please go ahead.

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Wina Huang
Head of Investor Relations, Canadian Solar

Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to Canadian Solar's first quarter 2026 conference call. Please note that today's conference call is accompanied with slides which are available on Canadian Solar's Investor Relations website within the events and presentation section. Joining us today are Dr. Sean Hsu, Executive Chairman and CTO, Colin Parkin, CEO, Ismael Guerrero, CEO of Canadian Solar Subsidiary Recurrent Energy, and Simbol Ju, Senior VP and CFO. All company executives will participate in the Q&A session after management's formal remarks. On this call, Sean will go over some key messages for the quarter. Colin and Ismael will review business highlights for manufacturing and recurrent energy, respectively, and Simbol will go through the financial results. Colin will conclude the prepared remarks with the business outlook, after which we will have time for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind listeners that management's prepared remarks today, as well as their answers to questions, will contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties. The company claims protection under the Safe Harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ from management's current expectations. Any projections of the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today. Canadian Solar assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future unless otherwise required by applicable law. A more detailed discussion of risks and uncertainties can be found in the company's annual report on Form 20F filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Management's prepared remarks will be presented within the requirements of SEC Regulation G regarding generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. Some financial information presented during the call will be provided on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis. By disclosing certain non-GAAP information, management intends to provide investors with additional information to enable further analysis of the company's performance and underlying trends. Management uses non-GAAP measures to better assess operating performance and to establish operational goals. Non-GAAP information should not be viewed by investors as a substitute for data provided in accordance to GAAP. And now I would like to turn the call over to Canadian Solar's Executive Chairman and CTO, Dr. Sean He.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Sean, please go ahead.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Thank you, Wina, and thank you all for joining our first quarter 2026 earnings call. Beginning on slide three, we started the year with strong momentum. We recognized revenue of 2.5 gigawatts of solar modules and 2.1 gigawatt hours of energy storage solution, both of which exceeded our guidance range. Revenue totaled $1.1 billion, reaching the high end of our expectations. Gross margin of 25.1% outperformed our forecast, aided by the accrual of IPA tariff refunds. Profitability was impacted by elevated non-logistics operating expenses foreign exchange losses and tax expense accrues related to the tariff refund. This led to a net loss attributable to shareholders of $32 million, or $0.71 per diluted shares. The solar downturn has lasted longer than expected. Against this backdrop, we have consistently made the right strategic decisions. We have repositioned our solar module business to focus on key attractive markets, accumulating in the formation of CS PowerTech, which is now leading our efforts in the domestic reshoring of manufacturing in the United States. At the same time, we have strategically dialed back volumes in less profitable markets, maintaining a steadfast profit-first strategy. Furthermore, energy storage represents a pioneering strategic move for us. Throughout this business, we have transformed from a pure PV module manufacturer into an integrated energy solutions provider. The boom in artificial intelligence has also provided new clarity. As the world chases digital breakthroughs, our core foundation is still physical power infrastructure. With rising global geopolitical friction and the push for energy independence, nations are increasingly seeking self-sufficient, reliable, local energy solutions. Renewable energy paired with energy storage has become an inevitable imperative. Turning to slide four, our journey from our founding in Ontario, Canada, to our current position as a global leader in integrated clean energy is a testament to our enduring resilience. We have consistently evolved, and today we are navigating a pivotal shift from volume-driven expansion to value-driven leadership. This evolution calls for strategic succession, and I am proud to transition the chief executive officer's role to Pauline Parkin. Colin is a veteran of the company and renewable energy industry. He previously served as president of Canadian Solar and was pivotal in establishing our first mover advantage in the energy storage sector as president of eStorage. This transition follows a thoughtful, long-term succession planning process approved unanimously by the Board of Directors. I will transition to the role of Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, focusing on our technology roadmap and long-term R&D strategy while working closely with Colin to execute this transition. With that, I will now turn the call over to Colin. Colin, please go ahead.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Sean. It is an honor to take over the chief executive role, and I look forward to your continued guidance as we navigate our next phase of rule. Beginning on slide five, as Sean highlighted, the first pillar of our global strategy is U.S. manufacturing. Since our last update, we have achieved critical milestones in reshoring the renewable energy supply chain. Phase 1 of our flagship solar cell factory in Jeffersonville, Indiana, produced its first trial HJT solar cell at the end of March. With a nameplate capacity of 2.1 gigawatts peak, it will be the first and only commercial operational HJT solar cell facility in the United States once it ramps up over the next two quarters. In response to strong customer demand, we are increasing our domestic solar cell capacity beyond the original planned 5 gigawatts peak. We expect to begin trial production for Phase 2 the beginning of next year. This expansion will add 4.2 gigawatts peak of capacity bringing our total US solar cell main plate capacity to 6.3 gigawatts peak and making us the largest crystalline silicon solar cell manufacturer in the country. Parallel to this is the expansion of our successful solar module factory in Mesquite, Texas. This facility reached full ramp last year and we are currently expanding capacity at the existing site. By the second half of this year, we expect nameplate capacity to double to 10 gigawatts peak, allowing us to fulfill all future US volumes from this Texas facility. Now let's walk through this quarter's manufacturing numbers. Turning to slide six. In the first quarter of 2026, we delivered 2.5 gigawatts of solar modules globally. We maintained a disciplined approach strategically managing volumes in response to elevated feedstock costs, including silver, to mitigate losses. Our domestic manufacturing in the U.S. contributed robust margins as we maintained an optimized geographic mix of volumes. Storage Shipments recognized as revenue, reached 2.1 gigawatt hours, slightly above guidance, supported by steady construction progress across multiple customer sites. Revenue for the manufacturing segment reached $950 million, and our gross margin was 29.1%. The sequential 1,460 basis point increase was driven by healthy energy storage volumes and the tariff refunds. With unit shipping costs holding steady and discipline management of operating expenses, we achieved operating income of $127 million. Now referring to slide seven regarding e-storage. We shipped 2.6 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions this quarter, including 500 megawatt hours to internal and external projects under execution. recognizing revenue on 2.1 gigawatt hours of volume. We are now delivering to a diversified global customer base within a single quarter what we delivered in a full year just a few years ago. We have also significantly advanced our manufacturing capabilities. For example, our internal production of lithium ion phosphate prismatic cells is proving to be a distinct advantage in today's market, as we have now achieved a cost basis below the market price of third-party cells. This strategic vertical integration provides an economic buffer during cyclical fluctuations while equipping us with the proprietary technical expertise necessary to drive further innovation. To support our global momentum and markets, we are also expanding capacity at our integrated battery energy storage system and battery cell factory in Southeast Asia. We plan to double both our battery cell and sole bank capacities to ensure strong coverage of annual volumes with internally sourced compliant solutions. The new production lines are currently being constructed and will come online in the first half of 2027. As we focus on maintaining our stellar execution track record, we are also balancing growth and profitability. As of May, our contracted backlog totaled $3.5 billion, including 34 gigawatt hours of operating projects under long-term service agreements. As we continue to scale our storage business, these recurring revenue streams will also increase. Finally, we continue to actively pursue opportunities within both front of the meter and behind the meter data center applications. While most commercialized demand today is manifesting through front of the meter contracts, we are seeing steady industry progress in the planning, permitting, and technical development required for future behind-the-meter opportunities. As this market gradually matures, we remain closely aligned with the key stakeholders driving these opportunities forward. Now let me hand the call over to Ismail, who will provide an overview of Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar's global project development business. Ismail, please go ahead.

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Ismael Guerrero
CEO, Recurrent Energy (Canadian Solar Subsidiary)

Thank you, Colin. Beginning with slide eight. We generated $139 million in revenue in the first quarter. Revenue improved sequentially, primarily driven by the sale of the Fort Duncan project. However, the overall contribution of this project sale was offset by related tax equity arrangement, as we had recognized tax equity gains when the project was placed in service. Port Arlington is a milestone. It is the first standalone best project in our portfolio that was financed with non-recourse project finance and had no capacity contract in place. We have now successfully monetized and sold the asset profitably, demonstrating that we can also achieve profitable sales for this merchant market project types. With relatively muted project sales this quarter and ongoing platform operating costs, we posted an operating loss of $60 million. As we continue to monetize more operating and under construction assets, the final impact may not be optimal in the near term. However, this strategy remains necessary to deliver our balance sheet and recycle capital. Turning to slide nine. As of March 31st, 2026, we have secured interconnections for 7 gigawatts of solar and 14 gigawatt hours of storage globally, excluding projects already in operation. Our total project pipeline is comprised of 24 gigawatts of solar and 81 gigawatt hours of energy storage. Our focus in 2026 is to reduce debt and mature our pipeline. Our pipeline is one of the largest in the industry, with a focus on the most stable geographic markets. Our strategy will also allow us to reduce operating expenses by concentrating fewer geographies within our core footprint. We are now focused on unlocking the value of the existing pipeline as it matures. At the same time, we see the rising global energy demand trend and growing appetite for this project. Our OANN platform continues to grow steadily and holds a contracted portfolio of 15 gigawatts, of which 11.2 gigawatts are already operational. The reminder is currently under construction and will join our managed project portfolio over the coming quarters. Now, let me hand the call over to Shinbo, who will go through our financial results in more detail.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Shinbo, please go ahead. Thank you, Ismael.

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Simbol Ju
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Beginning with slide 10, in the first quarter, we recognized revenue on 2.5 gigawatts of modules and 2.1 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions, both slightly above guidance. As a result, revenue reached $1.1 billion at the high end of our forecast. Gross margin of 25.1% strongly exceeded guidance. It increased both sequentially and year-over-year due to the accrual of tariff refunds, which contributed 860 basis points. Without this one-time benefit, our gross margin still exceeded guidance on strong storage volumes and a healthy geographic mix of solar module volumes. Operating expenses increased 5% sequentially, and lower freight costs were offset by the absence of one-time gains recorded in previous quarters. Net interest expense in the first quarter was $36 million, down from $39 million in the first quarter of 2025. Cost of debt was lower following refinancing in the project development business. Net foreign exchange loss was $29 million, driven by appreciation in the Chinese yuan and the weakness in the US dollar. Total net loss attributable to Canadian solar was $32 million or 71 cents per diluted share. Now let's turn to cash flow and the balance sheet on slide 11. Net cash flow used in operating activities during the first quarter of 2026 was $209 million. This outflow was primarily driven by increased inventories associated with the U.S. solar and storage business. Total assets grew to $15.5 billion, driven by increased inventories to support the U.S. solar and storage business as well as U.S. manufacturing investments. In the first quarter, we invested $173 million in capital expenditures, primarily toward U.S. manufacturing initiatives. We expect 2026 CapEx to total around $1.3 billion. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $1.9 billion and total debt of $6.2 billion. Total debt increased mainly due to new convertible notes issued to support U.S. manufacturing. Now, let me turn the call back to Colin, who will conclude with our guidance and business outlook.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Colin, please go ahead. Thank you, Shimbo.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Turning to slide 12. For the second quarter of 2026, we expect to recognize revenue on 3.1 and 3.3 gigawatts of solar modules. We expect to deliver between 2.8 and 3.2 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions, including approximately 400 megawatt hours to internal and external projects under construction. Revenue and profit recognition for volumes delivered to these in-progress projects may be subject to timing lags. Furthermore, our storage guidance range is slightly more conservative and wider due to delays related to ongoing shipping congestion. We project total second quarter revenue to be in the range of $1 to $1.2 billion, with gross margin expected to be between 13% and 15%. The broader solar market remains complex, as incremental price increases have not yet fully absorbed upstream cost pressures. In the storage business, we expect record volumes in the second half of the year, though margins are projected to normalize and we remain partially exposed to fluctuations in the lithium carbonate pricing. In the face of these challenges, we remain committed to a balanced strategy focused on rigorous execution and continuous innovation. For the full year of 2026, we reiterate our U.S. volume guidance, 6.5 to 7 gigawatts of module shipments and 4.5 to 5.5 gigawatt hours of energy storage shipments. With that, I would like to open the floor for questions. Operator?

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Melissa
Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from the line of Colin Rush with Oppenheimer and Company. Please proceed with your question.

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Colin Rush
Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company

Thanks so much. Sean, this is actually a question for you on the technology side. Congratulations on getting the battery costs down to where you've gotten them. I'm just curious about the evolution of the battery chemistry, notably around incremental silicon doping for the anode side, as well as the form factor and chemistry optimization for data center duty cycles. Can you just talk about how quickly things are changing and how we can see that start to translate into some advantage pricing over time.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Thanks, Colin. That's a good question. Now, we are working on several forms of the battery storage system. You mentioned the pre-lithiumation, I think, which is a way to dope additional lithium into the anode so that we can achieve like almost no degradation in the first five years and also slow degradation in the future. These are good technologies, and process-wise, we are all ready. However, that will increase the cost of the battery because you have to put more lithium into it. So it becomes a cost-balance issue. We propose this technology to our customers, And some customers see benefit, some customers get concerned about cost because, as you know, the lithium carbonate price has doubled in the past five months. So the technology is ready. We can implement it on any project where this technology provides more volume. Another approach in the chemistry of the battery is the sodium battery. We also have research in this area. Sodium is not subject to the fluctuation of raw material. Sodium is everywhere, not like lithium. When the lithium carbonate price goes to today's level, sodium becomes price competitive. And also the sodium will have better low temperature performance and almost doesn't require any thermal management. So you can also save the 2% annual thermal management electricity cost. So that's another chemistry we are doing research. And there are a few other technologies. I'm more than willing to go through that with you later on in any dedicated conversations.

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Colin Rush
Analyst, Oppenheimer & Company

Perfect. That's super helpful, Sean. Thank you. And then on the recurrent side, given where utility-scale prices are in the U.S., I'm just curious about your ability to renegotiate PPAs or start cutting PPAs at substantially higher prices to support margins. Just curious about that dynamic and potential timing around that.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Yeah, I would just make a quick comment here. Now, for the mature product or project already in operation, the PPA is fixed. The advantage is that PPA and cash flow is secure, and you can do financing, the bank financing, and non-recourse financing easily. However, it will be difficult to renegotiate PPA already signed in place. Usually, you will have to pay pay back your LLCs which guarantees or support PPA if you want to do a higher PPA. I think we did one project in the past which we paid the LLC and cancel PPA and renegotiate, but normally we don't. However, on the other hand, Connie, we have a large pipeline of middle-stage and early-stage projects. This project, we have not signed PPA yet, so we'll be able to repurpose it for, for example, the AIDC-specific applications and therefore drive higher values. So, in short, the mature pipeline, operating pipeline with PPA give us certainty. Now, meanwhile, the large pipeline of mid-stage and early-stage project will help us to create more values in the future.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Great. Thanks so much, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you.

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Melissa
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Shen with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.

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Philip Shen
Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to check in with you guys more on the US cell manufacturing ramp, cell capacity ramp. You guys have had first cell out. Congratulations on that. When would you expect the commercial shipment those cells to go into your modules? And when do you think your first U.S. module with U.S. cell is available commercially for your customers?

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Thanks. Philip, it's an interesting question. We have answered and mentioned that in several places in the press release and also in the prepared speech. We expect somewhere in July or two months later to have commercial operation, and then we'll be able to make our own modules with the HJT solar cell and deliver to customer. That process should be fast. If we can have a commercial delivery in July, then probably August, September, we'll have the first module delivered to our customer. Now, I would like to caution you. All these expectations right now, they ask you two, three months to go, and this is the first time the industry ever started to produce HDAT hydrojunction cells in the U.S. It will be a milestone, and it's not an easy task. I just want to caution you about that. However, our expectation is in Q3.

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Philip Shen
Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Great. Thank you for the additional comment, Sean. And then as it relates to your sourcing of third-party cells, can you remind us what countries or places you're sourcing those cells from? And do you have any exposure to Ethiopia? There was that new petition that was filed a couple of days ago or yesterday on a potential new anti-circumvention tariff on cells coming from Ethiopia. And then finally, do you buy any blue wafers at all? Or in your supply chain, do you have exposure to blue wafers? Thanks.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Thanks, Philip. That's a very tricky question. However, I will give you a straightforward answer. Now, we do source outside cells and also import cells from other countries to the United States. We are transitioning to more and more domestic cells. So as I have mentioned in several previous calls, 2026 is a transition year for us. Now, we don't provide the geographic distribution or sources of our cells in this transition period. However, as far as I know, we are not subject to the exposure of the recent petition, as you mentioned.

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Philip Shen
Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Okay, thank you, Sean. And then anything on blue wafers, do you have any thoughts on that, and is that in your supply chain?

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

No, there's no blue, so both called blue wafers. Whatever cell made in a certain country, those cells should go through the necessary solar cell steps. We, you know, for our factory, we only, you know, use so-called great wafer and the cell production process completed in the whatever is that country.

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Philip Shen
Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Great. Okay. Thank you. And then one last one here. On the IEPA tariff in the quarter, You guys booked it. Can you talk about the accounting for that? And specifically, did you guys secure cash with that refund, or is that expected sometime in the future? And if it doesn't come, then what happens to the accounting? Thanks.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Yeah, I will let Kimbo to supplement. And now the refund, IEPA tele-refund, consists of basically, I guess I would say three components. One is the refund on the tariff for imported solar cell or other manufacturing components. Now, those refunds, I believe, will be accrued in the COGS, which is the standard accounting Now, there are also some refunds of the machines we shipped to U.S. Those will not go into COGS. I think those will be used to reduce the cost base of our CapEx investment in U.S. Therefore, later on benefit on the depreciation of the machines. And those refunds, some of those will go into the CSI Solar subsidiaries because CSI Solar have done importing last year. Now, some of this, I believe, will go to the CSIQ companies because CSIQ also imported materials early this year. Now, in terms of cash flow, I'm glad to report that we have already started to receive the IEPA tax refund, receive the cash as of today. We have already received the cash. So you will see the cash components in the Q2 accounting. So in Q1, those IEPA will be recorded, but there will be an account receivable or something like that. And Q2, you will receive real cash, a credit to those accounting, you know, account receivable. I hope I answered the question right. But, you know, Xinbo can supplement.

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Simbol Ju
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Not much to add. We received cash, tariff, together with interest. Thank you.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

So far, we have started to receive tariff refunds together with the interest. As you probably know, those refunds are batch by batch. It depends on every entry or every entries. of the import. So what CBP does is to verify and refund entries by entries. Therefore, there will be like, you know, press flow refund come to us depending on the entry. So we will see lots of entries. So it will be a process. However, we have already started to receive Some cash already arrived in our account, bank accounts.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Great. Thank you for all the color, Sean and Jimbo. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

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Melissa
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alan Lau with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Thanks for taking my question.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

So the margin in first quarters, very solid, actually, even taking out the refund of tariffs. So we'd like to know how much of the module shipment is coming from the U.S. plant, and as you have mentioned, the margins from your U.S. manufacturing plant was decent. We'd like to know approximately at what levels is it?

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Yeah, I think around 30%, 40% of the module shipment come from U.S. factory. It's more or less the same ratio as before.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Now, Wina, do you have some color to provide?

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Wina Huang
Head of Investor Relations, Canadian Solar

Yes. In line with our profit-first strategy, we have been emphasizing our key strategic markets. So you'll see quarter over quarter, we've maintained a very healthy mix of North American volumes. This quarter, out of our 2.5 megawatts, 45% came from North America, so a very healthy mix that supported our module margins.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

So basically, almost all of the shipment to the U.S. is manufactured by the U.S.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

plant. All of, not almost all of.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

Thank you, thank you. So how about the margins there? What's the approximate margin of the U.S. manufacturing plant?

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Moderator
Call Moderator

I will let Colin to provide colors there.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Alan. Thanks for your question. You know, we're in a transitional period in the U.S., as we transition our scale, our mesquite module operations, but bring online our cell manufacturing in Jeffersonville. So there will be a transitional period, but I think what we can say is with the combination of the 45x manufacturing credits, but also with the economies of scale that we're building in the US and the fact that we're going to be using the most advanced HJT cell technology in our products that during this transition, as we mentioned, we start to scale in Q3, Q4 and heavily into 2027, that those will all be combined and complementary to a pretty robust margin. we strongly believe that all these factors are going to lead to a, you know, a strong and robust U.S. profitable business model.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Understood.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

So then, so actually the company is already ramping up its HGAT sales. So wonder if you are seeing a premium of HJT products versus other products like PERC or Topcon products in the U.S. markets?

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Yeah, Alan, we haven't commercially delivered the HJT cell yet. As I said, In answer to a previous question, we expect in Q3, we start to deliver that. However, based on the contract booking, we do price a premium of HJT cell compared to the Topcon cell. Yes, we do price up. For the contract, we'll resign the customers willingly accepted a premium premium for the HTT cells.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

That's impressive. So how much is the premium in terms of US cents?

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Well, it's still a going process. We just started to book those contracts. As far as I remember, you're talking about over 10%, or maybe 10%, 15%. of the price premium of the HAT cell, HAT modules versus TopCon modules. But we'll give you better numbers, I guess, after Q4, when we have actual comparison of the motor shipment.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

If it's 10% to 15% debt, equivalent to more than $0.03 maybe, which is pretty impressive. So, yeah, I'm still switching gear to ESS segments. I would like to know if the margins is around 20% level?

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Can you repeat which area?

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

ESS, energy storage. What's the margin for ESS storage in the first quarter? Yeah. Okay.

speaker
Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

I will let Colin to address this question.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think, Alan, one of the things that I'd like to point out is that our backlog continues to be very helpful to energy storage, around $3.5 billion in order backlog. And so we have a reasonably long view on our energy storage pipeline and the margin. And with that, I think everybody recognizes that there's continued price pressures. But I think by diversifying our supply chain and giving ourselves a lot of flexibility in our supply chain that we're confident in our pipeline and in the margins associated with that. We do know that there is fluctuations in... in the commodity pricing and in lithium pricing. So we may see some improvements on that, but perhaps more of a cautious approach in how we present our forecasted numbers with that in mind.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Understood.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

So I wonder if going forward the local production of the battery pack would help the margins

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think everything we're doing to control our own supply chain is giving us a very good strategic advantage, but also control of all aspects, logistics, manufacturing costs, and seamless project integration. It continues to be our strategy to grow our capabilities all the way from our lithium cell manufacturing through our complete battery systems, but also in our total ESS solutions. So total integrated ESS solutions, including software, technology, the PCS, the battery themselves and supporting that with a very strong engineering and execution team as part of our strategy to also deliver lots of value for our customers. And also, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, our long-term service contracts to support this is is also very valuable to our customers and to us as it continues to be ongoing, recurring business for our energy storage business.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

Understood. So last question from Anders. So is there any difficulty or any challenges in expanding the cell capacities given there were some rumors saying that the export of solar cell capacities might be prohibited, et cetera. So I wonder if when you're expanding your capacities to 6.3 gigawatt, I wonder if you get any challenges in getting your equipment in place.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

So far, we don't see that challenge. I know what you are talking about, and I hope that President Trump's visit to Beijing. I believe he just shook hands with President Xi of China several hours ago. I hope that visit will help to smooth out the trade relationship. However, so far, we don't see any challenges for our phase two equipment deliveries. We haven't started to take deliveries of the Phase II solar cell equipment. As we mentioned, Phase I, we plan to ramp up in Phase II, and Phase II, we'll start to move in equipment in Phase IV, probably in October, November timeframe, and we'll start ramp up of the Phase II of Jeffersonville early next year. So we haven't taken deliveries of those machines yet, but so far we don't have, we haven't seen any restriction, at least not to our contract. By the way, we find the related equipment contract for the Phase II machineries very early. So that was before any noise around this issue. So I believe that the fact we have already signed those equipment contracts, we have also paid some down payment, also give us an advantage if there's any restriction. I think restriction may be to the future equipment, not for our machines. I think our machine is more or less, you know, grandfather, whatever, if there's any restriction come out. However, I do hope that President Trump's visit will help to clear, further clear any of the uncertainties in this area.

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Alan Lau
Analyst, Jefferies

So, thanks, Sean. It's very clear, and hope things go smooth in expansion as well. So, thanks a lot. I'll pass it on. Thank you.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Thank you, Alan. Thank you, Alan.

speaker
Melissa
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mahi Mandeloy with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.

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Mahi Mandeloy
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Hey. Hello, everyone. Thanks for the questions here. Just a question on the guidance. If you could talk about, like, the mix of manufacturing versus recurrent in Q2. Is it similar to what we saw in Q1? And also for the U.S. North America exposure, how to think about the mix in Q2 versus Q1? Thanks.

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Dr. Sean Hsu
Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer

Yeah, I will not call in to address this question.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think, first of all, thank you for your question. With respect to the guidance, we are reiterating our U.S. guidance from last quarter. So we feel confident in our current execution. So we don't expect any significant downside on our reiterated guidance.

speaker
Moderator
Call Moderator

as we put out in our prepared remarks.

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Mahi Mandeloy
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

I'm just curious on the mix in Q2 versus Q1 for the manufacturing which is recurrent and North America versus the regions.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

I think most of our, if I understand the question correctly, most of our Our shipments are to third parties, very little to our recurrent operations in terms of our product shipment. I'm not sure if that is at the root of your question.

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Mahi Mandeloy
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

That's a follow-up offline on detail on that. But separately, a question on the e-storage business. How much of the backlog is North America for you guys and for Canadian, for CS PowerTech? And also, are you seeing any interest or any order in the pipeline from data center customers or hyperscalers looking to deploy batteries on site?

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, two good questions. I appreciate you raising the question. about 40% of our business is in the U.S. right now. And obviously, we're seeing that demand increase, both the build-out of infrastructure, front of the meter, and now we're starting to see a lot of progression into behind-the-meter opportunities. So today, we're pretty happy about our global growth. pipeline and that we're diversified. We have, just to talk before I come back to the US and the data center question, we have about 60% of the Canadian battery market. We have over, I think, four and a half gigawatt hours contracted there. We're, I think, in the leading position in the UK market We're starting to see a lot of progress in Europe now as those key markets in Europe are starting to become very active. Similarly, in Japan, as the best markets maturing in Japan, we're seeing a lot of opportunity for that market. And as well, we continue to be steady with a couple of gigawatts out gigawatt hours a year in Australia. So having that diversification, I think, is good for our e-storage business. But with respect to the question about AIDC, well, we have been working on this for quite a while. Last quarter, we announced a front-of-the-meter infrastructure project, two and a half gigawatt hours, to support data center growth. And We have developed a very focused business development and technology teams focusing on making sure that our solutions have the right technical requirements, the stringent requirements for fast response for data centers and the other requirements. And that's getting a lot of traction as well as the fact that we're able to offer fully compliant solutions for data centers. While we cannot actually disclose who we're working with, I can tell you that we're very engaged right now on data center opportunities and that it's a big part of our program and our focus and we expect it to yield some pretty exciting results for us in the next quarters that hopefully we'll be able to be a little more forthcoming about as we get further along in the contracting processes.

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Mahi Mandeloy
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

That's great. I appreciate the detailed color on the different markets as well. And maybe just one last one on the guidance for the rest of the year. I know you obviously haven't guided for Q3, Q4, the full year. But directionally, how should we think about the business here, the U.S. factories ramping up? Should we be looking something similar to last year's cadence or something different here? Any color would be helpful. Thank you.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I guess if we look at the solar side first, there's been a lot of volatility in that market. There continues to be a lot of volatility in our approach, as you know, has been to focus on profitable business over volume. And so on that basis, we've been reserving guidance but keeping an opportunistic position to strike with more volume as the markets support it. So we see, I think, On the solar side, hopefully some improvements that we can take advantage in terms of volume on the second half, but reserving a little bit our position on guidance and focusing on the U.S. where we have a strong line of sight on our volumes and our guidance. pipeline remains strong as we've mentioned and We have also in our prepared remarks Express that we will hit record Deliveries in our storage side for the second half of this year and these are projects that go through a very sophisticated level of planning and and and logistics, and it's based on that that we're very confident in the second half of the year on our storage side. We don't see, barring any unexpected circumstances, a very strong second half for our energy storage business, probably in record deliveries.

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Moderator
Call Moderator

Thank you. Appreciate the call, Colin, and congratulations on the appointment. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Melissa
Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our time allowed for questions. I'll turn the floor back to management for any final comments.

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Colin Parkin
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for joining us today and for your continued support. If you have any questions or would like to set up a call, please contact our investor relations team. Take care and have a great day. Thank you, everybody.

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Melissa
Operator

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