Complete Solaria, Inc.

Good morning and welcome to Complete Solar's earnings call. We will be reviewing our preliminary, unaudited 4Q 2024 results, which were issued this morning and appear on our website, located at .completesolar.com. Today's conference call contains projections and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in such statements. Also on today's conference call, we may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliation of the differences between those non-GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the press release issued this morning. I'll now turn the call over to TJ Rogers, Complete Solar's Chairman and CEO.

Good morning. My name is TJ Rogers. I'm the Chief Executive and Chairman, Executive Chairman of Complete Solar. I'm here in Silicon Valley. I want to be in Utah, but I have three board meetings here today and I called this meeting right in the middle of them because that was the timing I needed. So, I will introduce Dan Foley, our CFO, Dan Myers, Executive Vice President and General Manager of our New Homes Division, and Steve Erickson, our EVPGM of the Blue Raven Division. By voice only, I'm here at Inovix in Silicon Valley and I've got one channel. And that's me and I've got voice for them. Dan, say hello so I can check your voice.

Hello, TJ.

Oh my God. Okay, my connection is a cell phone. All right. Good luck. Okay, this is a report we sent out. I will refer to certain parts of it. Control A. Today we're going to talk about Q424, which is a month behind us. Unfortunately, it's subject to a full year audit, which is currently in progress. And that audit is currently hampered by the fact we have to recreate as if merged financials for SunPower. And SunPower doesn't have complete financials, so that may take us till mid-March. Hence, I'm not waiting till mid-March to talk about 2024. So I called this meeting today. That puts me here in Silicon Valley because I've got other board meetings here. Apologize for that. Because this is a preliminary report and it's unaudited for the reasons I just gave, we're only going to talk about what I think you want to know now, which is how did we do last quarter, and here where we think we're going in the current quarter. And that's all we're going to do today. First of all, accomplishments. We had a great quarter. In our last third quarter report to you, we gave you a plan for complete solar. And that plan was aggressive. It was predicated on a successful $45 million acquisition of business unit assets from SunPower to form a new company. And the plan had two big accomplishments that were required in it. One, that the little company, a $5.5 million company, would acquire a much bigger company, the SunPower Corporation, which has been around for almost 40 years and it's about 10 times bigger than us. That was one assumption achieved. And the second assumption in our plan that we wrote in our third quarter report, a revenue would be $80 million in Q4-24. That is, a revenue would jump from $5 million to $80 million in one quarter. This is a slide I showed to investors. I talked about old complete solaria, the trouble we had with private equity. We originally marketed a $100 million quarter as a likely quarter. That turned into being an $80 million quarter, which we announced on 11-13. And I was worried about taking a jump from here to here as opposed to a jump from here to here until I watched your response to it and your response was right here. There's November 12th and your response was favorable. You'll take a solid $80 million and that's where we ended up. I'd like to talk about our accomplishments for the quarter. I've got a series of bullets on that and a few slides to illustrate it. First of all, the SunPower integration is substantially complete. We're together. We're organized together. We are starting to, we've already gotten down to our head count. This is a graph by work week going back to the beginning of October. So there's the fourth quarter we're reporting right there. We started out when we first agreed to merge with 3499 employees. Within three weeks, we were down to 416 in our first order chart and then a week later, two weeks later down to 1,257. So this is about what the company needed. We had some people come in on post merger on day one. We worked that number down. We got the number down to 1,165 and we thought we were there. And then you notice here the number went up. This is when we started discovering employees that, let's just say the two companies didn't count very well. And I found 35 Pakistanis that think I'm their CEO. So that count went back in. Then we started working on it again. And as of the end of the quarter, we're down to 1,140 employees. Our goal is to get to 980. So I'm claiming major progress from there to there. And I'm saying we're getting close to the goal. And I actually was going to do that. I pointed. We've got two new divisional gross GMs in place, EVP GMs. Dan Myers, this guy. All right, let me go back. I announced about a month ago he was a star manager from the Blue Raven Systems Division. He was a supply is a supply chain expert and he took over new homes for us. And then more recently, we got Steve Erickson. Steve is a well-known figure in Salt Lake, which is, you know, Solar Valley, the middle of Solar Valley. In his career, he had 12 promotions from three companies between 2011 and 2024 when he came in. He hit the ground running, wrote me a comprehensive memo the very first week he was there, explaining what he saw that he liked and didn't like. And I advised him to fix the stuff he didn't like and move on. OK, so we we've got our. We've got our GMs in place. We are forecasting revenue growth next quarter. As you all know, the solar industry has in the winter quarter as the dip orders go down. People aren't interested in ordering solar when the roofs are covered with ice. And I did I did some research that number is typically been five, five or 14 percent. We're going to buck that because we're finally getting our act together and and we're going to have a good second quarter. And I'm forecasting 82 million bucks up a little bit from the choir prior quarter, not down. The last point is the company's almost at its fighting rate. I went through that with you showing we're down to eleven hundred and forty employees and we will we will hit the nine eighty we need to have. I'll tell you where that number comes from a little bit later. So here's the same slide I already showed you showing the actual against the 80 million dollar forecast last quarter in Q4 and the forecast for the quarter ran at eighty two. And. I'll just tell you, we're confident of that number. You know, I'll show you why. And when I show you the daily revenue charts. We've cut our operating expense by a factor of two. That, of course, comes from headcount reduction. Our op ex was an incredible 94 million bucks in the third quarter. That's because we had most of the people from both the companies and a lot of expensive software, you know, five million bucks a year for salesforce that come, etc. We've gone from 94 million in Q3 to 35 million in Q4 for the combined and cost reduced company. They showed you the curve for a minute ago. I like to look at operating expenses, less sales commissions gap requires that you call op ex to be general sales and administrative. And if you have sales commissions, then they go and they go into op ex. I like to look at the op ex without commissions because commissions come in as directly with sales. And I really care about the fixed expense. We've got back in the plant also. In that case, you subtract out the numbers and in Q3 we were at 84 million again in astronomical number and in Q4 just finished. We had non gap expense of 20 million. So we actually went down from 80 to 20. It's a factor of four reduction and we're planning on dropping another 30 percent in Q1. That's the 1140 to 980 that I showed you earlier. We're also forecasting that our cash we're forecasting. This is a big one. Income operating income break even in Q1 25. The words carefully chosen say given our current backlog and cost cutting plan, we're forecasting non gap operating income and breakeven in Q1 25. I can tell you that that number is plus 800,000 bucks. And it includes all the expenses we know about. But that's a kind of a fragile margin to predict operating income break even. And normally in presentations like this, you give numbers you're absolutely sure of achieving. In this case, we're going to get real close. Worst case. And I'm announcing it sort of putting drawing a line in the sand here. People in the factory listening to what I'm saying. We're going to break even in Q1 25. And we're going to be positive in cash flow. We raised 80 million bucks for the purpose of buying SunPower for 45 million bucks and having operating expense going forward to build a new company. We bottomed out at 13 million dollars of cash left out of the 80 in Q4. And we'll be going up this quarter. Now, the so these are the bullets and now fellow shareholders, the main the main numbers. I'm going to turn it over to Dan. Let's. Nope, I'm not going to turn it over to Dan. She's getting her cell phone so she can set it. She can put it in microphone and she's got a ring on her phone. We're not going to do that. So I'll give you the numbers again. It's my fault. I call this meeting out of phase with what we wanted to do because of the long audit revenue. Let me do non gap 81. One. Our gross margin, you notice, has been ugly and up and down or gross margin is 37 percent. And you notice our gap gross margin is the same thing. So we're we've kind of flushed the ugly out of the gross margin chain. Our operating expenses are 35, seven gap and non gap. Our operating expenses less commission, 19, seven gap and non gap. So for our non gap loss, excluding extraordinary costs, which blew up the gap number, was 5940. So you can say then this is you see the small company and then there's the new company. This is their first quarter. We've now been defined. We're a three hundred and twenty four million dollar company. It's losing money and needs not to lose money as quickly as possible. That's that's our next goal. And we've got 13 million bucks in the bank and we expect it to grow. We. We we acquired some power on what I call a Noah's Ark model. Explain that in a minute. I already explained the leaning out process we've gone to and the fact we're not quite yet at our goal. I've mentioned that we are going to grow next quarter and that that number is conservative. I'm pretty confident in it. Now, what happened was when we raised money, the 80 million dollars with that plan and then after we had a flurry of cancellations on the some part side because of the bankruptcy, we ended up with the first quarter being 80 million. I'm pretty happy for that and solid. So we're we're going to move forward from from that number. Now, that says if you look at our model for the company, instead of having 1225 employees, we're going to have 980. So that that's the goal we're enforcing at 1140. We're actually below our first goal. And we set a new goal. It was more aggressive. I've had got 980 to illustrate that to employees. I actually have shown this slide. I will show it again on Friday. The. Arc knows Arc merger theory is actually a typical Silicon Valley startup plan in disguise instead of a big company in trouble asking for and getting too much money. Sun par was trying to raise when I came in 750 million. And of course, what's worse than wanting to raise 750 million answers, actually getting it, then you know interest on it and it burdens you forever. And so that's not the right way to do it. In my opinion, the arc theory, which I used once back at Cyprus, we did 20 acquisitions in Cyprus, asserts this your old company has great assets. If I look at what I what I inherited was 80 million dollars, it's enough to make the company profitable. Your old company has great assets. Get venture funding for those assets, in our case, 80 million and build a new organization that can make profit with what you've got. So knows arc, which is to protect us during during floods and we're having a flood of interest rate problems right now in the financial markets got smaller and it's now got 980 seats. By the way, believe it or not, this is actually a four inch thick call on a 500 foot long knows arc model that's built in Williamsburg, Kentucky. To make claim to biblical standards. Okay, a little bit more detail on revenue. This is a picture of my daily revenue report. So the dots are 91 dots a quarter. We came in with 100 million dollar street number. I showed you. And recreated our beginning of quarter plan, which is the daily plan. For example, you can see the weekends and holidays in here. So it's a, it's a tight, well conceived plan. We took off on the plan and then we got behind and right here. We said that we're not going to make the beginning of quarter plan. We need another plan. So we did what we call an end of quarter plan. We decided what level we could get to and and and have the backlog for the next quarter after that. Hence my certainty on the 82 million dollars this quarter. We picked that target. No more fancy. We took a straight line and we started tracking daily to it. And this this was a pretty good quarter. The troops did a great job. I was I was worried because it was the first test and they passed it. As a matter of fact, right there, you notice it goes flat. That says in the middle of this week, instead of working like hell, trying to get up here and not quite making it. We told them, you know, you've worked hard. You'd like to have a four day weekend for the vacation. Have a nice weekend. Bam. And we went flat. And of course, the revenue that we could have accrued there. Became available to us quickly in the second quarter. OK, this is for the whole company. New homes. Different kind of story. They had an aggressive plan. They got behind. They they had a new plan. Fact is, the way they were spiking here, they probably could have made the original plan. But what they did was they got to where they needed to get for the street. This is their component of the street number. Of the 80 million dollar number. And they also, like everybody else, took the end of the quarter off. Great quarter. And we have Blue Raven. That was their first and second expectation. They redefined the quarter as well. Everybody did. And they stayed ahead of it for the rest of the quarter. And they also took off. And in this case, I think they probably could have made the original plan. So. Great quarter. Here's the other story. Dealers. So we have a dealer network that buys orders from dealers. And they had a modest plan of 17 million dollars. They started slow and kept on slow. And they they. They reduced their plan a big amount. The reduction from 100 to 80 million for a plan. Half of that was was from the small, smallish division missing its plan by a lot. So we sized up. We're a new company. This quarter defines who we are. And we said this quarter Q4 defines who we are. And we said we're cutting our headcount from 140 to five in the dealer division. So instead of having two divisions coming from some part, new homes and dealer, we had new homes only and then Blue Raven. And that's now the company. And we took we took some of the stars and merged them in Blue Raven. So here's our org chart. So. This half the company right here is two divisions now. That are the company. They have 921 people. And this. Although it's got a lot more boxes, says a lot fewer people, 219 or 19 percent. And I'm in I should have drawn that circle up around me. We're all in that. We're support this. These guys make the money. We do things for them. We're CFO, chief administrative, legal, HR, information technology. But I'd like to introduce Venky said for me. Soon to reason. I'm usually pretty good with any names, but his is kind of simple enough. It talks me. Venky came from. He came from Enphase where he ran an important division for them. And before that, he came from Cypress Semiconductor. He ran all I.T. And this is going to be transformative for a company. Thank you to be here. He lives in Silicon Valley with me today. And we have another senior VP. I will write about later. We have a new quality VP. His name is Surrender Betty. And he came from Lucid Motors. So he actually was at Sunpower very early in his career. He's also worked at Applied Materials, which is a known high quality Silicon Valley company. And then Lucid, an automotive company. And automotive companies have as a group of companies better quality control than I think any other group of companies. Perhaps, maybe semiconductors might be up there as well. So anyway, we've done some bolstering of our of our administrative side. We've got two divisions. These are the guys that make the numbers for us. And our overhead is measured on headcount is 19 percent of our population. Okay, here's an important point. The board honored our fourth quarter performance with a modest one point fourteen million dollar bonus, one point four percent of revenue, even in the last quarter, which is rare. My rule number one of bonuses, you never get bonus for losing money. But our performance was so good that the board agreed with me that we should do something. This is one point fourteen for the entire company. That is our loss could have been that much less, but we decided to make the loss bigger to reward the employees. Management, we chose the bonus money to went to all hands equally. So it's a thousand bucks ahead to recognize that it was rank and file employees who made the quarter. You know, we said I sit here in Silicon Valley and I work a lot of hours, but the rank and file made this quarter for us. The management team most significant restricted stock I pointed out if they ever want to gripe about only a thousand bucks for me and that's tiny fraction of my salary. Management's got a lot of restricted stock and we're waiting for them to get rewarded when the market says they meet and beat the street a bunch of quarters in a row. And then they'll be well rewarded. So this is a great way to do something for the workers now and remind management that they've still got to perform. Our eighty one point one million revenue last quarter redefined our company with annualized revenue of three hundred twenty four million and a loss of five point four. When I when I did the bullet points up front, there are eight of them and all I could think was this is really good. It's bam bam bam bam bam. And all I could think of was Muhammad Ali in one of his first fights. He fought a bar fighter in England. The guy's name is Brian London. Guys, one of those big square jawed, mean looking guys and Ali, the kid from Louisville, Kentucky, went to London and they're all worried and they said this guy is no finesse. He will walk directly at Ali, put him in a corner and he's got him in a corner. He will punch him once and he'll drop. That was that was the worry about the fight. Anyway, in the third quarter of that fight, Ali never got touched, never got touched. He was floating around and the big guy kind of couldn't keep up with him. And Ali went up and went bam bam bam bam bam. Twelve, twelve punches in two point ninety eight seconds. And the big guy was standing there. Bam bam bam bam bam. And Ali just walked to the center of the ring. The guy fell flat in his face into the ring. So that's how I felt about those bullet points. So I had Ali in my mind and I want to remind you and the employees that are five point nine four million dollar quarterly low. The loss will not survive in twenty twenty five. Little rhyme there. Also, I want to thank shareholders. You stuck with us. You've given us money. We are going to rebuild the classic iconic company. And I want to remind all of you how important SunPower used to be. It got it wasn't run well at the end by a lot. There was contention between the divisions of the company. And I would have been unhappy too. But SunPower is an iconic company. They got founded in 1985. You can see here the black squares on the wing of the airplane. This airplane's wingspan is bigger than the 747. And it's completely powered by SunPower solar cells that were made in Sunnyvale, California. It takes off under its own power. Fourteen fourteen electric motors. So it was the Tesla of airplanes way back in 1999. What amazes me about this airplane that really talks about the power of the sun, which I remember when Elon Musk brought out brought out the Tesla and everybody's golf court electric car. All right. So you bring out the test and you find out you can lay rubber for two blocks. The Tesla plaid today does zero to sixty one point nine seconds. You can take the biggest muscle car GTO supercharged of any of the older cars and it'll blow it off the road. And these guys did the same thing way back in 1999 because this airplane flew to a record of 96,863 feet. And that record still stands. And I'll point out one of the challengers to that record is the F-15, which is a fighter plane been around. It's a Mach 2.5 fighter and it's capable of accelerating. It's one of two airplanes that we have capable of accelerating while climbing vertically. And its service ceiling is 72,000 feet. So this is iconic picture of the power of the sun. It's already happened. You know, we talk about NEM, Net Electricity Metering, and NEM's being cut back, meaning that the grid is no longer giving money back to people in California anyway for people who have solar. Well, why is that? Well, that's actually good news. Solar right now in the middle of the day produces more power than they need and they're not going to pay for it. We have a solution for that. It's called a battery. I'm actually in a battery company right now, Silicon Valley, not the one that's going to make our batteries. But we have systems today that will make money and provide technology people need. Right now we're selling solar systems, good ones. We're using good components. My background is technical and we're going to work on technology as well. So at the end, the loss will not survive in 2025 and we're going to bring back a great tech, we're going to create a great technology company. You can say bring back, but create. Okay, that's it. We're ready for questions.

Thank you, TJ. As a reminder to our audience, you may send questions to us via the text box at the bottom of your screen. Our first question today comes from Derek Soderberg from Cantor Fitzgerald. Two questions actually. The first one is how is the portfolio churn trending in the new homes business and what's the plan to grow that business?

First of all, that business is most, are more profitable of our two businesses. Right now, its revenue is looking flat. We have new orders we're getting. We had a bunch of cancellations, so the lake went down and we're now putting, filling the lake back up. We will be up by the end of the year in new homes, having survived the bankruptcy and the hardest hit part of SunPower during its bankruptcy was new homes.

Derek's second question was how will CSLR effectively leverage the SunPower brand? Do you have any new plans?

I do. And this little teaser here is part of it. Right now, I want to get more braggable in the corporation, but we are going to make use of the name. By the way, we were attacked in court to try to take the name we want. So we own the name. We have the division, the home division of SunPower still with us and some other people were in the dealer division are still with us in Blue Raven.

Thank you. The next question is we understand you have contracts with Starbucks. Is there any more commercial deals in the pipeline and how do you view that business?

Okay, I don't unfortunately don't have the picture here. Normally I keep an appendix with all my pictures in it. There's a fantastic picture of Starbucks and they've got an awning. So you're looking at a two, three story high store box with an awning that sticks out over the entire parking lot. All solar and it's glass on glass solar. So some panels today are made with glass and then the silicon and then below that another layer of glass. So when you look at them, you can see right through parts of them. That's a Starbucks. It's got a 50,000 watt system. We have 57 Starbucks we've dealt with. I think it's great business. But right now I got two divisions. I got Blue Raven and they're putting homes all over America throughout the Midwest included. And then I've got new homes. The new homes division is capable of doing the light commercial. And that may be the place or we may acquire a company that is in that business.

Thank you. The next question is the company has moved through its initial integration and cost reduction quickly post acquisition of the SunPower assets. Can you discuss incremental cost reduction efforts and how much more should the market expect on that front?

How much incremental cost reduction should we expect? What you don't know is we're actually ahead of that game. The reason last quarter at a five point nine million dollar loss was that curve. We had the high part of the curve spending a lot of money then coming down. And the average of the quarter was the high part and the low part. We're entering the new quarter low. So that cost cutting is there already built in. Where else? We're still paying some rent that we need to get rid of. We still have some software packages we need to stop paying on. But by and large the heavy liftings done cutting costs another 30 percent.

Thank you. In the similar vein you announced achieving operating income break even in the first quarter of 2025. What are the risks to this?

The risk is we don't do it and that I'm making an aggressive announcement which is atypical. As I said earlier if you could see the spreadsheets actually are in here but I'm not going to show them. Our plan profit including the ability to pay another bonus. Our plan profit is 800,000 bucks. It disappears like that if you screw something up. But if we miss I don't think it will be by much and if we make it and I think it's more likely than not we will make it. It's not a given. It will be a big deal. We'll celebrate.

Thank you. The next question is with regards to additional acquisitions. What is your appetite and if you are seeking them would targets be bolt on to current positions or seek to expand your footprint and offerings?

Give me the choice he gave me. I heard that. What are the two choices he gave me? Okay. On expanding. I... That can be good or bad. Problem is you've had in the last two years you've had 70 solar companies go out of business. Now you can argue the interest rate is directly what people pay for solar. Double the interest rate, double the payment. And therefore high interest rates, the inflation that we've unfortunately inflicted on ourselves has harmed a lot of solar companies. That 70 I got a list. It's an alphabetical order and Sunpar is on the list. Having said that. Solar companies are not run as tightly as other companies. Point one and point two. The backlog of solar companies he orders is not as solid. For example in the chip business we would take backlog and if some and we would make chips for somebody not custom just just a bigger number for another company. And they didn't take them after that point in time they would they would pay a down payment. And therefore backlog is pretty sacred in our company as most chip companies. You were locked in the last 30 days to take or pay. So you had you were informed 30 days before the order is going to ship the order is going to ship and that was your last chance to bail out. Back it backlog isn't solid like that and solar. You actually have teams of people calling other people. And how are things going and you have a real rate like 20 percent of people say you know I kind of changed my mind. And it's a consumer thing and you can't be the big bad corporation pounding on some poor homeowner somewhere. So for that reason solar companies shrink and get bigger and smaller by huge factors. So you can't take a solar company this you know big and doing well and buy it at a high price. So I I look more at potential of companies and I look more at people. And if you've got a solid company. That has good practices that has customers who love and hasn't eaten up a lot of cash like some par eight up. Then then then you've got something worth acquiring. So I look for companies like that. I look for companies that we acquired a company a year ago and I talked to the founder and I said we were thinking about acquiring and I said send me your deck. Guys name is Cole Farmer he's still with us and he said I don't have a deck and I said I'm thinking how in the hell can you not have a deck. And he said we never we never raised any money. We funded our first funded our first systems and then the money from that funded the other systems and I thought my exact thoughts in that Sunday afternoon phone call. There's a real man. He didn't run to Wall Street and get paid and gripe about the economy. He goes and makes money. So that's the kind of company if we acquire and we will acquire if we can. Non non. Indigenous growth is great but but extra growth through acquisition is fine. That's more like what I'm looking for. Not not not some high flying company or new cop capability that the consumer commercial rather you talked about earlier. That's a more stable business. You're now dealing with other companies and that's a business that that if we found somebody that was good at it. And that means they make bigger systems. They're now talking not not 10 kilowatts on your roof. We're talking about a million watts in a field with with control of the angle of the panels to follow the sun. That could be another option. Technology is another option. By getting a technology that gives us a better panel or gives us a better panel. And I'm I'm I'm actually working with companies on that right now. That would be something else. We're not just going to grow. There's there are there are companies in Salt Lake that tried that just sort of agglomerating companies and they found out a bunch of small weak companies equaled one big weak company and it didn't work out. That's long answer.

Thank you. I have a longer one with respect to the dealer's division. It sounds like you shrink the dealer's division to create more profitable growth in the long term. Can you please discuss the strategy and your outlook for that segment?

It was a real tight call right at the end to stay in the dealer business or not. The way the dealer business works is you have people who sell orders. They go through their process, which is complex, and they get a homeowner to sign a contract. I will I will buy your system. Then they can sell that deal to a company that installs and is a full service company like ours. And amazingly enough, that order is worth 30 percent or even more sometimes of the value of the order. That is, getting the order costs you 30 percent of revenue upfront. Then you deal with the guy who changes his mind halfway through. Therefore, it's an unstable business. And there's there are tectonic shifts in the business where that goes in the fashion goes out of fashion. And what I know from our own experience with the division, we we merged into the other division and my company before that, Complete Solar, the mother of this company. By the way, oddly enough, Complete Solar, the mother of this company is grand total of maybe 60 people out of a thousand. And we're spread all over the company, including my position. And we're not we're not the company anymore. We are we're the money and the funding and the guidance for the company. So we're we're looking for. Solid things that it's not quite reasonable to use Warren Buffett's name here, but we're thinking that way when we look at what we can acquire and bring in and which businesses we should grow. And right now, dealer does not look like one of those businesses we grow. And by the way, I want to point out that our Blue Raven division is its own dealer. It has a large group of salespeople and we get our own orders and therefore we get all the profit going up. So so we understand how it works. We understand what it costs. That 30 percent is not phony. That is, it really takes that much money to get the order and keep it. So right right now, that's not where we want to be.

Thank you. Looks like we have two more in the queue. Just a reminder to the audience. If you have any additional questions, you can put them in the text box at the bottom of your screen and we will we'll see them there. The next question is, how do you see yourself differentiated versus your peers in the next six to 12 months?

We will be financially stable on a cash flow basis in tough times. So, you know, Marine Corps, we're going to come out of this being a difficult company to compete with. In a consumer business, we are going in our now have great, great consumer ratings. We're going to get better on that. And then the new angle is going to be technology and acquisition, which again, I can't. Right now, I'm working on several technologies and I can't name one for you that I'm ready to move on. And in acquisitions, we're always looking at acquisitions, always.

Thank you. The last question I have here is, can you provide any timing on when your name change to SunPower might occur?

I'm surprised that that is a major. Well, I asked for it, right? I showed the picture of the airplane. Can't right now. Problem we've got is the SunPower I knew I was the chairman of SunPower when it went public in 2000. I think it was 2004. I was chairman of SunPower Cypress Semiconductor. My company owned them. And the SunPower I remember that conquered the world and built and put the power in that airplane wasn't the one that was experienced in Salt Lake. It was something that would cause dislike if you worked with them. And so I got half the company that doesn't remember SunPower well, but I got a name that's worth half a billion dollars. And I got to figure out how to make all that work together.

Thank you very much. That looks like all the questions we have in the queue today. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. You may now disconnect.

Thank you.