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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for joining today's Capital Southwest third quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings call. Participating on the call today are Michael Sarner, Chief Executive Officer, Chris Reberger, Chief Financial Officer, Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer, and Amy Baker, Executive Vice President, Accounting. I will now turn the call over to Amy Baker.

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Amy Baker
Executive Vice President, Accounting

Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current conditions, currently available information, and management's expectations, assumptions, and beliefs. They are not guarantees of future results and are subject to numerous risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Capital Southwest's publicly available filings with the SEC. The company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, changing circumstances, or any other reason after the date of this press release, except as required by law. I will now hand the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Turner.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Amy, and thank you all for joining us for our third quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings call. We are pleased to be with you today and look forward to walking you through our results for the quarter. During the third fiscal quarter, we generated pre-tax net investment income of $0.60 per share, supported by strong recurring earnings across the portfolio. Our undistributed taxable income balance remained robust at $1.02 per share, reflecting consistent realization activity. In fact, over the last 12 months, we have harvested $44.5 million in realized gains from equity exits, driving UTI growth from 68 cents per share in December 2024 to today's level. Subsequent to quarter end, we realized an additional realized gain of $6.8 million from another equity exit, which should further support our UTI balance going forward. Our board of directors has declared a total of 58 cents in regular dividends for the March quarter, payable monthly in each of January, February, and March 2026. And this also declared a quarterly dividend, supplemental dividend, of $0.06 per share, payable in March, bringing total dividends declared for the March quarter to $0.64 per share. Turning to originations, deal flow in the lower middle market remained healthy this quarter. We closed $244 million in total new commitments across eight new portfolio companies. existing portfolio companies. Add-on financing continues to be an important source of origination for us, as over the last 12 months, add-ons at the percentage of total new commitments have been 29%. These opportunities allow us to deploy capital into businesses we know well with proven management teams and sponsors. The weighted average spread on our new commitments this quarter was approximately 6.4%, which we view as very attractive given today's competitive spread environment. On the capitalization front, last quarter we strengthened our balance sheet by issuing $350 million in aggregate principal of 5.95% notes due 2030. This quarter, we used a portion of the proceeds to fully redeem our $150 million notes due 2026 and $71.9 million notes due 2028. extending our maturity profile at an attractive cost of capital. We also raised approximately $53 million in gross equity proceeds through our equity ATM program at a weighted average share price of $21.11 per share, or 127% of the prevailing NAD per share, reinforcing our ability to raise capital efficiently and accretively. Subsequent to Queren, we announced a first-out senior loan joint venture with a private credit asset manager, which I would like to spend some time discussing. We believe this new JV will enhance our competitiveness in our core lower middle market by enabling us to participate in larger, higher quality deals with tighter spreads while maintaining disciplined hold sizes. The structure also allows us to earn outsized economics due to our role as originator and administrator of the JV and higher relative yields on last out loan. which is extremely important in an environment where SOFR is declining and loan spreads on new deals remain very tight. The first-out loans within the JV are expected to be conservatively levered at approximately 1.5 times debt to EBITDA or less, and once fully ramped, we expect the JV to generate a low to mid-teens equity return for Capital Southwest. Finally, our partner in the JV is a highly regarded, well-capitalized asset manager with whom we are extremely excited to build a long-term relationship. We believe this relationship may open up other unique opportunities for co-investment in the future as we continue to expand our platform. Overall, we are pleased with our performance this quarter and enthusiastic about the prospects for this new venture. We look forward to giving further updates on the fund in the coming quarters. I will now hand the call over to Josh to review more specifics on our investment activity and the market environment.

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

Thanks, Michael. This quarter, we deployed a total of $199 million of new committed capital, consisting of $197 million in first lien senior secured debt and $2 million of equity across eight new portfolio companies. We also completed add-on financing for 16 existing portfolio companies, totaling $44 million in first lien senior secured debt and $405,000 in equity. Our on-balance sheet credit portfolio ended the quarter at $1.8 billion, representing 19% year-over-year growth from $1.5 billion as of December 2024. Importantly, 100% of new portfolio company debt originations were first-leaning senior secured, and as of quarter end, 99% of the credit portfolio remained first-leaning senior secured, with a weighted average exposure per company of only 0.9%. This level of portfolio granularity reflects our disciplined approach to risk management as we continue to scale the balance sheet. The vast majority of our deal activity continues to be in first lien senior secured loans to private equity-backed companies. Approximately 93% of our credit portfolio is sponsor-backed, which provides strong governance, operational support, and when needed, the potential for junior capital. In the lower middle market, we frequently have the opportunity to invest on a monthly, on a minority basis in the equity of our portfolio company, Perry Pursue, with the private equity firm where we believe the equity thesis is compelling. As of quarter end, our equity co-investment portfolio consisted of 86 investments with a total fair value of $183 million, representing 9% of our total portfolio as fair value. This portfolio was marked at 133% of our costs, representing $45.2 million of embedded unrealized appreciation, or $0.76 per share. These equity positions continue to give our shareholders meaningful upside participation in growing lower middle market businesses driven by both operational improvements and strategic add-on acquisitions. This is evident from the recent realized gains, which Michael mentioned earlier. The lower middle market remains highly competitive as this segment of the market continues to attract both bank and non-bank lenders. While this has resulted in tight loan pricing for high-quality opportunities, the depth and strength of our sponsor relationships the team has cultivated over the years has continued to result in our sourcing and winning opportunities with attractive risk-return profiles. today our portfolio includes investments from 90 unique private equity firms and over the past 12 months we closed 14 new platform investments with sponsors we had not previously partnered with since launching our credit strategy we have completed transactions with over 129 private equity firms nationwide including more than 20 with whom we have completed multiple deals our portfolio now consists of 132 portfolio companies allocated 90% to first-meaning senior secured debt, 0.8% to second-meaning senior secured debt, and 9.1% to equity co-investments. The credit portfolio generated a weighted average yield of 11.3% with weighted average leverage through our security of 3.6 times EBITDA. We remain pleased with the overall performance of the portfolio. At origination, All loans are initially assigned an investment rating of two on a five-point scale, with one being the highest rating and five being the lowest rating. As that quarter ends, 90% of the portfolio at fair value was rated in the top two categories. Cash flow coverage remains strong at 3.4 times, reflecting an improvement from the 2.9 times low observed during the peak of base rate. This strength is further supported by the fact that our loans represent, on average, only 44% of portfolio company enterprise value. Our portfolio remains broadly diversified across industries and our average exposure per company of less than 1% continues to provide meaningful protection against idiosyncratic risk. For new platform deals closed during the December quarter, Weighted average senior leverage was three times debt to EBITDA, and weighted average loan-to-value was 36%, providing a substantial equity cushion beneath our debt. Over the past 12 months, new platform originations have averaged 3.3 times senior leverage and 37% loan-to-value, underscoring our consistent commitment to conservative underwriting. I will now hand the call over to Chris to review the specifics of our financial performance for the quarter.

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Chris Reberger
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Josh. Turning to our financial performance for the quarter, pre-tax net investment income was $34.6 million, or 60 cents per share. Total investment income increased to $61.4 million, up from $56.9 million in the prior quarter. The increase was driven primarily by a $1.8 million increase in PIC income, a $1.1 million increase in fees and other income, and a $1 million increase in dividend income. The increase in PIC was driven by an amendment to one of our portfolio companies in which the sponsor provided significant new cash equity support and a debt pay down in exchange for a PIC option. As of quarter ends, non-accruals represented just 1.5 percent of our investment portfolio at fair value. During the quarter, we paid a 58 cent per share regular dividend and a 6 cent per share supplemental dividend. For the March 2026 quarter, Our board has again declared a total of 58 cents per share in regular dividends, payable monthly in each of January, February, and March 2026, and maintained the 6 cents supplemental dividend, also payable in March, bringing total dividends declared to 64 cents per share. We continue to demonstrate strong dividend coverage with 110% cumulative coverage since launching our credit strategy. With UTI of $1.02 per share, and a sizable unrealized appreciation balance in our equity portfolio, we remain confident in our ability to continue distributing quarterly supplemental dividends over time. LTM operating leverage ended the quarter at 1.7%, significantly better than the BDC industry average of approximately 2.6%. As our asset base continues to grow, our near-term target for operating leverage is 1.5% or below, reflecting the inherent efficiency of the internally managed BDC model. The internally managed model has, and will continue to, provide meaningful fixed cost leverage to shareholders while still allowing us to invest in talent and infrastructure as we continue to scale a best-in-class BDC platform. NAV per share increased to $16.75 per share, up from $16.62 per share in the prior quarter, driven primarily by our equity ATM program. As Michael noted, last quarter we issued $350 million of 5.95% unsecured notes due 2030. During the December quarter, we used a portion of the proceeds to fully redeem our $71.9 million August 2028 notes and $150 million October 2026 notes, with no make-hold payments required. We view this refinancing as a highly favorable outcome for shareholders strengthening our balance sheet and positioning us well across a range of market environments. Our liquidity position remains robust, with approximately $438 million in cash and undrawn leverage commitments across our two credit facilities, plus $20 million available on SBA debentures. In total, this represents more than 1.5 times coverage of the $285 million in unfunded commitments across the portfolio. Regulatory leverage ended the quarter at 0.89 to 1 debt to equity, down slightly from 0.91 to 1 in the prior quarter. While our target leverage remains 0.8 to 0.95, we continue to factor in the macroeconomic backdrop and intend to maintain a prudent leverage cushion to help mitigate capital markets volatility. We will continue to raise secured and unsecured debt capital as well as equity through our ATM program in a methodical and opportunistic manner to ensure we maintain significant liquidity at a conservatively constructed balance sheet with adequate covenant cushions. I will now hand the call back to Michael for some final comments.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Chris, Josh, and Amy, and thank you to all of our employees who work tirelessly behind the scenes to help us deliver for our shareholders and communicate our progress each quarter. Your dedication is a critical part of what makes this platform so strong, and it remains a deep source of pride for me. And to everyone joining us today, we appreciate your continued interest, engagement, and support. We remain focused on executing our strategy, maintaining disciplined growth, and creating long-term value for our shareholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we're ready to open the line for Q&A.

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Operator
Conference Operator

If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our first question comes from Doug Harder with UBS.

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Doug Harder
Analyst, UBS

Thanks. I was hoping you could just expand a little more, talk about the lower middle market Just how do you view that from a competitive dynamic today? You know, what are you seeing in terms of, you know, players or is anyone, you know, kind of moving back into that market, moving out of the market? You know, just how are you seeing that and what's the outlook for spreads as a result?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I don't think it's really changed much over the last probably six months. I think over the last 12 and 18 months, we have seen regional banks, I think I've noted this before, that have dropped down. Historically, they only landed, you know, to maybe one and a half turns of leverage in a, maybe in a senior med structure. And more recently, we're seeing regional banks actually underwrite a whole Unitranche loan. Now they come and go. Certainly anytime you're seeing headlines of, you know, private credit issues, they sort of back off. But by and large, I think that it's kind of the same players. I mean, what we probably have seen in the last, I would say, one to two months is that there's, particularly on the BDC space, there's 27 of 42 BDCs have cut their dividends. And I think we're only seeing five BDCs trade a book right now. So there's a little less competition from our peers as they sort of lick their wounds right now. But other than that, I think that we're in a very strong competitive position. Obviously, we've announced this joint venture, which we think is going to strengthen our ability

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

to continue to win deals that are in our core competency, the lower middle market. Great.

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Doug Harder
Analyst, UBS

And I guess just then on the spread outlook, how that, you know, kind of those comments would lead to kind of how you think spreads progress over the coming quarters?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so when we look at it, the spread on debt is actually from 331, 2025, it was 7.35%, and today it's So we've held in pretty well from a spread perspective. I think we'd say that we've seen the spread compression has seemed to stop. The last 12 months and even the last three months, we've seen our spreads on our newly originated deals in the mid-sixes, and those are with three times leverage and 36% loan-to-value, so very conservatively structured deals with decent So I think for us, we'll continue to be somewhere between 7% and 7.25% we would expect for the next 12 months.

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

Appreciate that. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Mickey Schlein with ClearStreet.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Yes. Good morning, everyone. Michael, could you give us a sense of the breakdown of the portfolio between sponsored and non-sponsored at this time?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

I think it's 93% sponsored and 7% non-sponsored. And that's probably on the high side. It's typically been somewhere between 85% and 95% sponsored deals.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

And how are those sponsors behaving in terms of their appetite for deals in the current market environment? I mean, we go quarter to quarter, and sometimes it's risk on, sometimes it's risk off. There's so much going on. Can you give us a sense of just the backdrop?

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

Josh, you want to take this one? I think there's still a lot of capital in the private equity, lower market private equity funds. So they're still looking for deals. I think that if you ask most private equity sponsors in the lower market, they would say last year was a pretty, quote unquote, weak year from a deployment perspective. And they're hoping 2026, there'll be more opportunities for them. But, yeah, I think that they're looking for deals. They have capital to spend, but they're not. But, you know, last year they didn't find as many deals available to them.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

You know, the other thing I would add is that the lower middle market where we play the $3 to $15 million in EBITDA, you know, we're not – the volume you see as typical is what you hear in the headlines of, you know, M&A going up and down. There are founders as an aging population – where companies are turning over. There's been a steady drumbeat. I wouldn't say that there's been, there's clearly not the same peaks and troughs that you see in the upper and middle middle market. So I think the sponsors that Josh is referring to, they're still seeing plenty of deal flow.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

And Michael, with that in mind, I mean, we're certainly reading a lot about pressure from LPs on these sponsors to provide them some liquidity. But I'm getting the sense that you know, the sponsors you work with, which are, you know, focused on the lower middle market, is that less of an issue for them?

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

I think it's, I mean, I think it can be an issue depending on where they are in the lifecycle of the fund. I mean, I think that they're looking for opportunities to exit as well to provide that liquidity to LPs, but probably a little bit less pressure than you'd see in the middle market or upper middle market, but We obviously talk to a lot of sponsors in the country and have deep relationships with them, but speaking specifically about their liquidity situations and all that stuff is a little bit tough for us.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Right. No, I get it.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Another thing I would note for you, when we go through our investment committee process on new deals, We definitely focus on where this investment stands in a fund life. So if a fund or a sponsor, this is one of the last deals, and we know there's only 5 to 10 million of dry powder that's allocated with the rest of the portfolio, that's certainly going to be a negative and something that we're going to discuss to see whether we still feel good about the credit. So we typically want these deals to be in the beginning or the middle stages of a fund life.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Understood. Michael, given what we've just talked about in terms of sponsors, any sense of how active you expect to be this calendar year and maybe even next year in terms of deal flow and repayment risk in the portfolio? And essentially, what's your sort of business plan for net portfolio growth?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

I feel very bullish for several reasons. One, We've grown our sponsor relationships, I think we cited the numbers earlier, over time. We've recently added another MD, an originating MD, Brian Mullins, who brings his own unique set of sponsors, who's going to be covering the country. We recently promoted Brent Eason, one of our principals, to MD, and he's firing on all cylinders, and so he's another source of origination. And then, you know, the joint venture, I'll look back to it. So the joint venture allows us to compete on the STEM deals we're looking at today. But we've historically held the line at around 5.75% because that's, you know, that's a moving target. But most recently, 5.75% spread kind of meets our ROI target. And anything below that, you know, we didn't view as a creative to the portfolio and helpful to our dividends. By doing this joint venture, we're able to compete and win on deals at 5% or above, while still actually incorporating additional arranger fees, profit allocation, and enhanced spread that increases the yield on the deal by 100 basis points. We're going to be able to see the same amount of deals from one perspective, but be winning more of them. The reason this venture was really important to us is we were focused over the last 12 months saying, look, we've seen a lot of really high-quality deals that we would love to put in our portfolio that we thought were quote-unquote sleep-at-night credits, but we weren't giving our deal team the ability to go below 575. This is giving them another arrow in their quiver to actually go out and compete. And again, these are deals that we can consider cleaner and more high-quality. And it also allows us to maintain granularity. We think that's been a huge part of our success is maintaining granularity through the last 10 years and not really getting greedy, staying below that 1% on average.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Michael, did you say in your prepared remarks that the JV would be primarily a last out fund? Did I hear you correctly? No.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I'd say it's primarily, but there's going to be... different types of assets that go into the fund. Probably the best example of what this fund is, is if you look at a $10 million EBITDA company that's levered three and a half times with, say, 35% loan-to-value and a 550 spread, that's a $35 million total debt check. So in the example I give you, the first out that would go into the joint venture, so I should probably correct myself, the only thing that's pretty much going into the joint venture is going to be first out position. So they would hold $10 million at 375 spread, one turn of leverage, and 10% loan-to-value. On our balance sheet, we would hold $25 million of the debt stack, and that would get a 6.25% spread, and still levered at the same 3.5 times and 35% loan-to-value. So that kind of gives you an idea of what it would look like on balance sheet and in the J.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Understood. And what kind of leverage do you expect the JV's balance sheet to have?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

So I'll start. The asset level is going to be between one and one and a half turns of leverage for individually on the asset side. The fund itself will be probably something around two and a half turns, plus or minus.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Okay. And that gets you to your ROE target. I understand. And lastly, and I appreciate your patience, The portfolio has about 21% at fair value in consumer products and services, restaurants and movies. You know, those are, you know, sort of cyclical segments. Can you discuss your underwriting approach to those segments? And, you know, how are those portfolio companies doing given, you know, everything we're reading about a K-shaped economy?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

So I think Josh would want to take this one. I would tell you that when we look at our weighted average leverage for consumer services that fall into the buckets you're referring to, their leverage is slightly elevated at 4.2 times. When we look at where other portfolios begin at 5.5 to 6 times in the upper middle market, we would say that it's still pretty conservatively leverages, you know, our entry multiple on many of these companies are going to be somewhere between one and a half to three times leverage.

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

We're certainly cognizant of consumer discretionary. So I would say there's a decent amount of that consumer, probably the majority of that consumer we think are well positioned for consumer pullback or economic pullback. And on top of that, we do structure our deals, you know, recognizing where we are with the potential consumer pullback.

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Mickey Schlein
Analyst, ClearStreet

Understood. I appreciate you taking my questions. That's all I have this morning. Thank you very much. Thanks, Nick.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Zwick with Lucid Capital Markets.

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Justin Mark
Analyst, Lucid Capital Markets

Good morning. This is Justin Mark on for Eric today. Just going back to the spread conversation, I was wondering if you guys could talk about the current state of underwriting conditions and if you're seeing any other signs of pressure on structure terms.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

From a performance standpoint, I would tell you that we're not seeing pressure on any particular industry. Any issues in the portfolio continue to be idiosyncratic.

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

I think you're asking about the structures of new deals we're doing. I think, is that your question?

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

Yeah.

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Josh Weinstein
Chief Investment Officer

Yeah. Yeah. So I think we've said this, and it stays consistent, that we've definitely seen, we had seen spread compression over the last 12, 18 months considerably. But structurally in the lower middle market, we have not seen sort of weak credit agreements or asks coming through from our private equity sponsorships. It's pretty status quo from a structural perspective over the last bunch of years. I think where the lower middle market has moved in the last kind of 18 months or so has been on the pricing and spread, not on the structure. So still seeing good covenants and solid credit documents.

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Dylan Hines
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Yes.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

I mean, almost, I'd say 100% of our portfolio, we're close to it. You know, I have a fixed charge covenant, they have a leverage covenant, they have a CapEx covenant.

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

And then to the extent that there's a DDTL, you'll see an incurrence covenant as well. Okay. Thanks for the call there.

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Justin Mark
Analyst, Lucid Capital Markets

And last one for me, any other additional details on the new JV, whether you have like a targeted size in mind or when you're expecting to be fully ramped up? Sure.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

So, you know, we've actually, you know, we've been negotiating that for a bit of time. We've already started ramping. We closed three deals that will be contributed, closed three deals in the 1231 quarter that will be contributed in the coming weeks. And we're close to closing a credit facility. I think, how many, 150 million? $150 million credit facility. I think the answer to the question is each party is contributing, has committed 50 million of equity to date. We think it's going to take probably at least a year to get probably up to the full leverage. So it's going to probably, it'll eventually be a mid-teens return.

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

I think it'll be double digits return by the end of the year. Got it. Thanks for taking my questions today.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Of course. Our next question comes from Dylan Hines with B Reilly Securities.

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Dylan Hines
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Hey, thanks for taking my question. I noticed you talked about the spreads in the quarter for the originations. Do you know what the weighted average yield was for your originations in the quarter?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think I said earlier, so the spread on the new deals this quarter was 6.5%, and leverage was three times, and loaded value was 36%.

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Chris Reberger
Chief Financial Officer

So are you just saying, I mean, with the SOPR, so the weight average yield is approximately 10.50. Gotcha. Right. Okay.

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Dylan Hines
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Yeah, and then I was wondering about the ATM issuances. Do you expect to continue doing that as long as the premium's favorable? Do you have a target rate that you generally... want to issue at?

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Chris Reberger
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure. So if you look past history, we do somewhere between 30 and 50 million every quarter. That vacillates depending on deal flow and repayments and liquidity needs. But certainly with the premium we're trading at, somewhere in that range would be a good expectation for the coming quarter.

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Unidentified Participant
Analyst

Okay. All right. That'll be it. Thank you. You're welcome.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James.

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Robert Dodd
Analyst, Raymond James

Hi, everybody. I hope you can hear me with the background noise. On the JV, is there any intent? You've said you don't need to expand your net currently in terms of being able to stock that up. But is there any intent to expand maybe the size of the businesses or the type of leverage multiple, anything like that? maybe once it gets closer to scale, or is it just exactly the same assets, just the lower spread ones going in that shape?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

So I see it this way. It's pretty much exactly the same assets. I think the deals that are really targeted for this are going to be deals that are between $5 and $10 million of EBITDA. So like I said many times, they're very clean deals, and they're priced between $5 and 575. I would say to the extent that we're seeing deals that are slightly larger, so let's call them a $35 to $40 million check, which we don't prefer to hold because of our preference for granularity, this does give us the ability on those deals to put $10 to $50 million in the JV while still maintaining a $20 to $30 million hold. I think on the margin, it allows us to feel more comfortable in our deals that are slightly larger. But for the most part, it's just the cleanest deals in our core space.

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Robert Dodd
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. Thank you for that. One more, if I can. It's been topical over the last couple of days. How are you evaluating AI disruption risk, both within the assets you already have in the portfolio, but then when you look at new originations and opportunities? How much, if any, is AI risk being factored into your underwriting case?

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Honestly, that is something that we started taking up about probably a year ago. We formed an AI committee and then actually created a segment in our investment committee process which rates the various aspects of a company in terms of the AI risk. Because look, when we look at companies, sometimes AI is going to be helpful. We see sometimes financial services companies, they're going to be using AI to basically become more efficient. In other deals, we're seeing AI as a potential. We just saw a deal maybe two weeks ago that we couldn't get comfortable with because the advent of AI may not impact the business in the next two years, but it would impact the business in five, and therefore, you know, concern of how it's going to get sold and at what valuation would that cover the debt um so i think we're looking at it we're certainly it's definitely a heavy segment of our investment committee discussion and then internally we're looking to see how we can utilize ai as well to become more efficient as an organization and that's something that has begun in earnest got it thank you that concludes today's question and answer session

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Operator
Conference Operator

I'd like to turn the call back to Michael Sarner for closing remarks.

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Michael Sarner
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I want to take one minute to just pause and reflect. Our company, our balance sheet, just passed $2 billion in assets. I know growing the balance sheet is not the goal here. It's creating value. It is a testament to everybody who's worked here and all the value that's created to allow us to continue to grow. My optimism today, and I think our optimism as a group, has never been higher. I mean, we've mentioned it to you. you know, new MDs that are, you know, helping enhance the business, the joint venture, which we spend a lot of time discussing. You know, we've talked about over the last 12 months, we've exited, to date, like $50 million in equity. And I'd remind everybody that's on a 5% equity portfolio at cost. So we're punching way above our weight, which tells you, you know, our underwriting, both on our debt and our ability to create equity gains has been strong. That's created the $1.02 per share of UTI. We have $0.76 of unrealized depreciation, and we would tell you the majority of that are in companies that are in the market, some in the first half of 2026 and others in the back half. Our operating leverage in the company is 1.4% on a run rate basis, excluding the one-time charge from last year. Conservative leverage at the corporate level of 0.89%, conservative leverage at our portfolio level at 3.6 times, significant liquidity. And all of that has brought us to a place where we have a 40% plus premium to book on our stock, which reflects, I think, all the strong work we've done as a company. So as we leave this call, I'm thankful to all of the shareholders that support the company. I'm extremely proud of all of the employees who have done this great work. And as we look forward, we see this optimism and hope you understand it as well. Thanks to everyone and have a great week.

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Operator
Conference Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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