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Dare Bioscience, Inc.
5/13/2025
your operator today. With us today from DARE are Sabrina Martucci-Johnson, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mardi Harding-Layton, Chief Accounting Officer. Ms. Harding-Layton, please proceed.
Good afternoon and welcome to the DARE Bioscience Financial Results and Business Update call for the quarter ended March 31, 2025. Today we will review our results, discuss developments and expectations for our pipeline and portfolio, and discuss our recently announced expanded business strategy, leveraging a dual path strategy where we commercialize our proprietary formulations via 503b compounding while continuing to seek FDA approval, as well as taking steps toward launching certain solutions as branded consumer health products that do not require a prescription, in all cases to bring solutions to market as soon as practicable. I would like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Security Politication Reform Act of 1995. Any statements made during this call that are not statements and historical facts should be considered forward-looking statements. Actual results or events could differ materially from those anticipated or implied by these statements due to known and unknown risks and uncertainties. You should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements in the company's SEC filings, including our Form 10Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2025, which was filed today, and our Form 10K for the year ended December 31, 2024. I would also like to point out that the content of this call includes time-sensitive information that is current only as of today, May 13, 2025. DARAE undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect new information or developments after this call, except as required by law. I will now turn it over to Sabrina.
Thank you and thank you everyone for joining the call today. We're excited to announce today that in addition to our proprietary Sudendafil cream formulation, we are taking action to make three more solutions for women available commercially, two vaginal probiotics in 2025, and our proprietary monthly hormone therapy in 2026. Making our hormone therapy solution available next year creates a commercial opportunity for DARAE in the estimated up to $4.5 billion compounded hormone therapy market, and enables women to have access to an evidence-based solution. As you can appreciate, four on-market products will accelerate revenue generation and provide a path to profitability. We expect to start recording revenue in the fourth quarter of this year. Anyone following the healthcare and biotech sectors knows that the first quarter of 2025 has been marked by distractions and disruptions for the overall healthcare and biotech sector. I'm proud that DARAE is uniquely positioned to cut through the noise and deliver value to all of our shareholders, women, healthcare providers, and investors who are all stakeholders in DARAE. Today, biopharmaceutical companies with relatively low-risk assets, a competitive advantage, and a path toward near-term revenue are positioned to offer upside. We believe that is DARAE today. Women's health is ripe for returns because it has been underfunded and fragmented. And with our recently announced expanded business strategy, we believe we are strongly positioned to deliver value and returns to all of our stakeholders with a business model that is nimble, allowing us to rapidly commercialize multiple products via multiple channels. We are no longer only seeking FDA approval. We are leveraging a dual-path strategy where we commercialize via 503B compounding while continuing to seek FDA approval. We are also taking steps towards launching certain solutions as branded consumer health products that do not require a prescription. At DARAE, women's health isn't just a priority. It's our sole purpose. And to our knowledge, we are the only publicly traded company focused solely on developing therapeutic products for a broad range of conditions affecting women. Contraception, sexual health, pelvic pain, fertility, infectious disease, vaginal health, and menopause. And to our knowledge, we are the only publicly traded company all available paths to bring evidence-based solutions to market, reflecting where and how women are getting and paying for their care. As an FDA approved treatment, as a compounded product, as a consumer health product that does not require a prescription, available via telehealth, online, or via an in-person visit with her healthcare provider. Our portfolio is compelling. And over last month and the next month, we look forward to continuing to provide updates regarding strategic partnerships and collaborations to facilitate access to DARAE on market brands for women across multiple channels. Today, I'll provide some perspective on these channels and the strategic relationships we're seeking to enter into to provide women with access to our evidence-based solutions from their trusted sources, where they get their medication and healthcare solutions. I'll also provide a refresher on our potential first in category monthly intravaginal hormone therapy, a product candidate we've been developing to really shift the hormone therapy landscape. Gaps in solutions for menopause symptoms have given rise to an explosion of untested supplements and therapies. We believe in delivering hormone therapy that has been rigorously studied to meet the needs of women and their doctors. Please keep in mind that bringing our proprietary Sidenethyl cream formulation and our monthly intravaginal hormone therapy solution to market via 503B compounding will not impact the regulatory process or commercial opportunity for an FDA-approved product. Rather, if successful, it accelerates the availability of these proprietary formulations for healthcare providers and women, and it accelerates revenue. It can also provide real-world evidence and experience that we would seek to utilize to streamline the path to an FDA approval of these potential first in category candidates. I'll also give some background on the vaginal probiotics that we also intend to bring to market this year, both of which, by the way, were identified via a grant we received from the Gates Foundation to evaluate the global probiotic manufacturer community and identify evidence based formulations from manufacturers following GMP. I'll also give a brief update on Oviprene, our novel investigational hormone-free monthly intravaginal contraceptive, the ongoing enrollment in the pivotal phase three contraceptive efficacy study, and our data safety monitoring board interim assessment, which is scheduled for July of this year, as well as other therapeutic development pipeline updates on Sudenafil and their HPV, which is our investigational product for the treatment of human papillomavirus infection, which is the virus that causes cervical cancer. Before I provide additional updates, I'm going to first turn it back over to our Chief Accounting Officer, Marty, to review first quarter 2025 financial results.
Thanks, Sabrina, and thanks everyone for joining us today. I would now like to summarize DARI's financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2025, which I will refer to as the first quarter. Put simply, DARI's business strategy is to assemble and advance a portfolio of differentiated treatment solutions that address meaningful unmet needs we've identified in women's health and then to monetize the value of our portfolio's clinical and regulatory advances over the near and long term. The investment required to build and advance a portfolio includes corporate overhead, portfolio acquisition and maintenance costs and ongoing research and development or R&D expenses. During the first quarter of 2025, our general and administrative expenses were approximately $2.3 million, which is a 14% decrease compared to Q1 2024 due primarily to reduce stock-based compensation expense, reduce professional services expense, and reduce headcount. We continue to maintain a lean and managing overhead costs closely. Our R&D expenses, which vary from period to period based on clinical, preclinical, manufacturing, regulatory, and other development program costs, were approximately $2.3 million, which is a 31% decrease compared to Q1 2024. Our comprehensive loss for the quarter was approximately $4.4 million. We ended the first quarter with approximately $10.3 million in cash equivalents and a working capital deficit of approximately $9.4 million. DARA remains committed to being creative, collaborative, and opportunistic to build shareholder value, including by making certain proprietary formulations in the DARA portfolio accessible via a prescription through the FDA's 503B pathway. As of May 12, 2025, we had approximately 8.9 million shares of common stock outstanding. We encourage investors to review the more detailed discussion of our financials, financial conditions, liquidity, capital resources, and risk factors in our Form 10Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2025, filed today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Sabrina.
Thank you. So as we all know, we've been discussing we are a biopharmaceutical company driven by a mission to challenge the status quo, making women's health a priority. Our vision is to meet the increasing demand for evidence-based treatments with both uncompromising scientific rigor and rapid responsible commercialization. As a leader in women's health, we continuously hear from the healthcare providers and women themselves about the urgent need for faster access to trusted evidence-based treatments that women can afford. We believe that innovation does not have to start from scratch. Solutions that can address decades of unmet needs in women's health often already have clinical proof of concept or existing safety data for the active ingredient. We seek to leverage these data and insights in order to bring solutions to market rapidly in a fiscally responsible manner and in ways designed to optimize access for women. With growing awareness around menopause, sexual health, and vaginal health, the conversation is shifting but access to real evidence-based solutions still lags behind. As awareness grows, so does the demand for treatment options and we are seeking to meet this moment by ensuring women have access to solutions that are not only needed but are evidence-based. Like our sedentical cream formulation, our investigational hormone therapy, DARE-HRT1, is being developed in response to feedback from women and their healthcare providers. Specifically, despite the fact that the Menopause Society recommends hormone therapy and recommends delivering estrogen and progesterone together for women with intact uteri and despite the fact that the Menopause Society states that non-oral routes of administration may offer potential advantages, there is no non-oral hormone therapy that meets those criteria that a woman can administer directly. DARE-HRT1 is just that. It's an intravaginal ring that a woman can self-administer just once a month. And like our sedentical cream formulation, DARE-HRT1 has been evaluated in rigorous toxicology studies and completed pharmacokinetic studies demonstrating the systemic levels of the hormones being administered as measured in the blood of postmenopausal women. Our clinical study findings specific to this proprietary formulation have been published in peer-reviewed journals. Making our hormone therapy solution available next year via 503B compounding creates a commercial opportunity for DARE, as I mentioned, in the estimated up to $4.5 billion compounded hormone therapy market and enables women to access this evidence-based solution. And as with the menopause sector, gaps in solution in the vaginal health sector have similarly led to an explosion of untested supplements and therapies. The two vaginal probiotics that we also intend to bring to market this year, as I noted up front, were identified by a grant we received from the Gates Foundation last year. It was a grant to evaluate the global probiotic manufacturer community and to identify evidence-based solutions and formulations for manufacturers following GMP. These two products were designed to restore a healthy vaginal microbiome and have been evaluated and demonstrated effective in clinical studies in women outside of the United States in restoring a healthy vaginal microbiome. But they are not yet available here, and we want women in the U.S. to also have access to these evidence-based vaginal probiotics, and we intend to make them available as branded consumer health products later this year. So this is a good place for me to address the strategic partnerships and collaborations we intend to establish to facilitate access to DARE's on-market brands for women across multiple channels for both the prescription products via 503B compounding and branded consumer health products. As I stated at the beginning of the call, our goal is to bring evidence-based solutions to market, reflecting where and how women are getting and paying for their care. As I mentioned, that might be an FDA-approved treatment, a compounded product, a consumer health product that does not require a prescription, might be available via telehealth, other online platforms, via an in-person visit with your healthcare provider. We want women to access these products, these DARE on-market brands, from the source they trust and that reflects where and how they are currently selecting their solutions and getting their care today. What does that mean in terms of our partnering strategy? It means partnering with telehealth providers that reflect DARE's mission of challenging the status quo and putting women's health first and that are committed to providing evidence-based solutions. It means partnering with online retailers that provide complementary offerings. It means collaborating with online prescription fulfillers so that our formulations are available on their platforms. And it means participating in medical conferences and continuing medical education programs so that the healthcare community is broadly aware of these evidence-based solutions as they consider their treatment guidelines. Put simply, it means meeting women where they are, wherever they are. Therefore, don't expect just one strategic partnership, expect several. The delivery of healthcare and the purchase of healthcare solutions has changed dramatically over the last five years and we would not be true to our corporate tagline, which is daring to be different, if we did not lean into the latest trends in accessible healthcare and put partnerships and collaboration in place that reflect those trends. Finally, I should also note that like our -fil-CREEM and our monthly intravaginal hormone therapy formulations, there are other proprietary formulations in the DARE portfolio that we can make accessible via prescription through the 503B pathway. We are actively evaluating the dual path approach for some of our other proprietary formulations. So that dual path, again, is to continue to pursue FDA approval of a product candidate for a treatment indication while simultaneously bringing that formulation to market via the 503B pathway as soon as practicable. We're taking this approach as part of our responsibility to women, to the healthcare community, and to our shareholders. And because we believe women should not have to wait for needed medical treatment solutions while they continue to pursue an FDA approved path. Over the next month, we'll continue to provide additional updates, so please stay tuned. I'm now going to talk through our anticipated 2025 milestones for our therapeutic products. Candidates, I'll highlight Obaprene, -fil-CREEM, and DARE HPV in that regard. Obaprene, again, is our novel investigational hormone-free monthly intravaginal contraceptive whose commercial rights are under a license agreement with Bayer Healthcare. Enrollment is ongoing in the pivotal Phase 3 contraceptive efficacy study of Obaprene. Recall that we announced an up to $10.7 million foundation non-dilutive grant in November 2024, which supported the addition of five new investigator sites in the first quarter of this year. We've been really pleased with the pace of enrollment at those sites to date, but I will say, don't ask me because it's too early for me to predict enrollment rate for the remainder of the study. I will share, though, that we do not anticipate that the NICHD, those NIH contracted study sites, will resume enrolling new participants under their existing NIH contracts. Review of the interim data by the study's Safety Data Monitoring Board, which is an independent group of experts which evaluates the safety and integrity of the study, is scheduled for this July, July 2025, and we will provide an update following that meeting. Recall overall that the primary objective of the study is to assess the typical youth pregnancy rate over 13 menstrual cycles, or the estimated PERL index for Obaprene. Secondary objectives are to assess Obaprene's 13-cycle youth cumulative pregnancy rate, safety, acceptability, product needs of use, and assessments of vaginal health. If successful, we expect the study to support the submission of a premarket approval application for Obaprene to the FDA, as well as regulatory filings in Europe and other countries worldwide to allow marketing approvals of Obaprene. Regarding Sodenafil, as an investigational cream formulation of Sodenafil, which is the active ingredient in the oral erectile dysfunction drug for men for topical on-demand administration to treat female sexual arousal disorder, we have continued our interactions with the FDA regarding the planned Phase III study and expect more updates on Phase III design, development, and collaboration strategy throughout 2025. We're targeting submission of additional information requested by the FDA, along with the protocol and the statistical analysis plan for the Phase III study to get those to the FDA by the end of the second quarter of 2025. That's really our immediate next step on this development program on our path to pursuing an FDA approval. For DARE HPV, I will remind that in 2024, we were selected to receive an award of up to $10 million. For the development of DARE HPV, which is an innovative investigational treatment for HPV-related cervical diseases, and with the support of that funding, we're advancing DARE HPV towards a Phase II clinical study, which is supported with that funding. Essentially, all cervical cancer cases worldwide are caused by HPV infection. And despite the fantastic advancement in HPV screening and vaccination in the U.S., an estimated 100,000 women are still treated for cervical precancer each year, and an estimated 4,000 women are expected to die from cervical cancer in 2024. Today's cervical precancers are monitored until they reach a late stage, since the most common treatment is surgery, which removes parts of the cervix. And that surgery is associated with an increased risk of preterm birth and sexual dysfunction. So it's not recommended for patients with fertility concerns. In the U.S., about 10% of women with HPV infection on the cervix will develop long-lasting HPV infections that put them at risk for cervical cancer. DARE HPV has the potential to be the first FDA-approved pharmaceutical intervention that could treat both genital HPV infections in women, as well as late-stage cervical dysplasia, and treat that infection, which would change the paradigm around how HPV-related cervical diseases are clinically managed today, preventing surgery, stopping the spread, and transforming care for this critical health issue. And DARE HPV is reflective of the type of development program we really like to advance at DARE. It's a -in-category product, but it leverages active pharmaceutical ingredients that have been approved to treat other viral infections. Specifically, DARE HPV is an investigational proprietary fixed-dose formulation of lopinavir and mutonavir in a soft gel vaginal insert, with the potential to be this -in-category treatment for HPV infection and HPV-related cervical diseases. We look forward to continuing to exact activities necessary to enable submission of the IND application to the FDA, and for a Phase II randomized placebo-controlled double-blind clinical study of DARE HPV for clearance of high HPV infection in women, all supported with the funding we receive under that $10 million award. We're excited to be able to provide more updates in the coming months on our therapeutic development programs, as well as our progress as we work to commercialize some of the most potentially disruptive candidates for the health and well-being of women in decades. I'd like to now turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
Thank you, Sabrina. At this time, I would like to remind everyone to press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Douglas Tsao with HCWayne Wright. Please go ahead.
Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess, Sabrina, you said that we should anticipate several different partnerships in terms of the compounded distribution of products. I'm just curious, would that be unique partnerships for each product, or could you potentially have multiple partnerships for an individual product?
Yeah, that's a great question. Thanks for asking for the clarification. Both. First of all, I want to start out that we would intend to have multiple partnerships for an individual product because we want to make sure, as I mentioned, that that product is available in as many places as possible that make sense in terms of where women are getting their care, and that, like I said, meet our objectives in terms of criteria around that platform having the right commitment and the right access to women on their platforms and where they might have complementary products as well. So for an individual product, absolutely expect several relationships to support that brand having as wide access as possible and as it makes sense for that particular product and that particular channel being supported. But also, as I think maybe intuitive, but just in case it's not, these platforms that have built fantastic relationships with the patients and consumers that use their platforms, obviously it's very compelling for them to have access to new products and especially evidence-based treatments and opportunities to partner with DARE, which is the leading pharmaceutical developer in the area of women's health. And so there are also interesting opportunities where multiple DARE products could be available on an individual platform as well. So over the coming, as I said, over the coming months, expect more news from us around this, more announcements around this, but the goal is to very simply make sure that these evidence-based treatments are available for the women who are seeking them and for the healthcare providers that want to provide them. And that we want to make sure they are on as many platforms and via as many channels as possible. And that's what the relationships and collaborations and partnerships will reflect.
And I guess I'm just curious when you think about, and this is maybe specific to Savannah Falkreen, you know, target being sort of, you know, in the market by the end of the year, is there much that you need to do to ensure that there is sufficient manufacturing capacity for the product, you know, by year end?
Another great question. So we definitely want to make sure that our 503B collaborator on this. So under 503B, just taking a step back for a second for everyone's benefit, under 503B, the product, the product needs to be manufactured at a registered 503B facility. And therefore, you know, we need to support our 503B facility in how to make our proprietary sidenofil cream, right, get them ready. This is GMT manufacturing. This is not compounding at a pharmacy. This is at an outsourcing facility, which are regulated by FDA's GMP rules and subject to FDA inspection. And therefore, there are activities that need to happen for that manufacturer to be prepared to provide the product at the scale that we need. And that's why it's fourth quarter and not yesterday that we were launching this product. And that's really what that timing is for. And in addition to that, though, what that gives us is some nice time between now and then to do a lot of work around provider education and medical education with the support of the medical institutions that are very focused on sexual health of women and other platforms that are focused on education of providers that are focused in that field. And so what it allows us to do in terms of other preparations is to use this time to make sure that we're supporting those providers with education around disease state and also education around our specific sidenofil cream formulation. And so those are really the two, you know, the three key sets of activities that are happening between now and this product being commercially available are one, supporting our 503B manufacturer with, you know, all the support they need to make sure they're up and running, to your point, at the scale that we want to support this exciting brand. Two, it's the partnerships and collaborations that we've been talking about to ensure the availability of the product and multiple channels and platforms. And the third is that provider, you know, provider education. So I will say a group of us are going to be at ACOG the end of this week, which is the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology Conference. It's the first time Darae has a booth at the conference and really we're there for education and to provide some education around what Darae is doing and, you know, what's coming soon from our portfolio.
And Sabrina, if I can, one more. I'm just curious, because I think you've been talking to potential partners around sidenofil cream in terms of the sort of traditional FDA approved track. I'm curious if you've gotten feedback from potential partners and reaction, you know, broadly from others in the sort of traditional pharmaceutical industry to you taking this step. Thank you.
Yeah, we definitely have. And I would say, you know, the feedback has been fantastic and complementary in terms of our really being open-minded and thoughtful and creative in how we get this product out there as quickly as possible. Everyone recognizes and pharma more than anyone that drug development can take a very long time, right, decades in some cases. And we've received a lot of super positive feedback from the industry and those players in terms of how we've found a way to accelerate getting a product to market that healthcare providers are anxious to have. And so that women aren't waiting and they can actually get something that's evidence-based and has been studied for a condition for which they are seeking an option. And so the feedback has really been very, very positive. And it's definitely part of, frankly, what's inspired us to really look more broadly across our portfolio, the feedback from the healthcare providers, the feedback from women, and importantly, the feedback from our peer drug developers.
Okay, great. Thank you so much. I'll jump out of the queue.
Your next question comes from the line of Katherine Novak with Jones Research. Please go ahead.
Hello. Hi, Sabrina. This is Leona. I'm for Katherine. Thank you for taking our questions. I'll just start off with Sildenafil phase three, what additional information has the FDA requested? And then for Ogopren, can you provide any additional information on the potential outcomes of the interim assessment? Will you have the opportunity to increase the sample size if needed?
Yeah, both great questions. So starting with Sildenafil, yeah, to put that in context. So in April, we received additional input and information requests from the FDA regarding our patient-reported outcomes psychometrics. And I don't expect everyone to know what psychometrics means, but basically that it's about your questionnaire, the test VTS reliability, is it content valid or fit for purpose. These are specific terms that are used around patient-reported outcomes. And specifically related to both what was done in the phase two, but also importantly, what should be done in phase three as part of that overall final validation. And that's something, by the way, that was anticipated to be part of the phase three plan and had been discussed with the FDA. So as you can appreciate this psychometric analysis, it has bearing on the efficacy endpoint and also the statistical analysis plan and just what's included in the phase three study. So we've submitted information to the FDA in response to this. We're targeting submission of additional request information along with the actual protocol, incorporating that and the statistical analysis plan to the phase three, incorporating that to the FDA. We're targeting by the end of this quarter. And that's why I say this is, you know, while we would like to target commencement and are targeting commencement of the phase three study, you know, this year, that's really pending as getting this into the FDA and then obviously their review and then any additional feedback we might get in response to this because obviously we want the phase three trial that is ultimately conducted to be very clearly reflective of everything the FDA needs to see in it in order for it to be supportive of registration. And then in terms of over-preening and the data safety monitoring board meeting that's scheduled for this July. So as the name implies, it is a safety meeting. They're really looking at the safety and the integrity of the study. That's what their charter requires them to do. And in terms of, you know, it's not an analysis and a plan review for sample size, so that's not a goal. And in fact, there will not be any statistical assessment of the primary endpoint of the study. And that's the kind of thing that would be needed if there was going to be a sample size change. It's really just looking at safety. Now, having said that, and I've said this a few times, which I think is sometimes surprising to people, but two things. One, this is an open label study. It is open label. Everyone is on over-preening. And two, a pregnancy in a contraceptive study is considered an adverse event. So they will be looking at those data in that context, but there will be no assessment of the actual PERL index, which is the primary endpoint in the study. And there is no opportunity therefore to do any kind of sample study size changes based on that because there won't be any assessment at the primary endpoint.
Great. Thank you so much. And if I could just ask a couple more add-ons. Sure. For the compounding drugs, are you pursuing a dual path for all four of those products? I guess you've kind of answered this, but what kind of marketing and KLL outreach are you doing for the ones that were mentioned today, the probiotics and then the hormone therapy?
Yeah. So to clarify, so Sidenosil and the hormone therapy are both dual path products. So there are prescriptions. They'll be available via compounding under 503B statute as a prescription. And then we are pursuing a dual path in that we are continuing our efforts and activities to support ongoing development of those products through for both of them, it would be the 505B2 regulatory pathway to get a treatment indication. For the vaginal probiotics, those are consumer health brands. So for products of that nature, one could certainly choose to pursue an FDA approval for products of that nature to get some sort of treatment claim if they wanted. We're not interested in that. These are really products designed to restore a vaginal microbiome. And so that is not necessary. And there's no other work we're going to be doing on those other than making those available in the United States. And in terms of efforts to kind of educate and support, the primary effort right now on the part of DARE is very much focused around Sidenosil. And then more efforts on the hormone therapy next year. The good news is it's all the same KOLs and it's all the same medical societies that really focus on both sexual health and menopause. And so, we'll be focusing on education programs right now around Sidenosil and its availability. But we're also doing a lot to just awareness around DARE and what we are doing as a leader in ensuring that healthcare providers are educated on them. So that will really be our focus in the near term. A lot of focus around Sidenosil and as we get into next year, even more focus on the hormone therapy as well. And then obviously, we're making the consumer health brands is a little bit of a different channel, although we do think that there are a lot of healthcare providers that are very interested in having an actual evidence-based solution that they can make available to their patients. So we will opportunistically make sure that they're educated on those as well.
Great. Thank you so much. Yeah. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, press star
1 on your telephone keypad. Please see your next question comes from the line of Will Heidel with Brooklyn Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Okay, Sabrina, quick question regarding overpricing the trial. Does the grant received in November cover costs to add additional sites? And you mentioned in the queue about adding a potentially two or three new sites. Does that cover those costs?
Yeah, thank you. Great question too. Yeah, so the way that the grant works, it's really designed to cover the cost of adding a certain number of additional subjects to the study. And we've focused initially on five sites, which frankly, at the rate they're going, can be sufficient to add those additional subjects in a very reasonable timeframe. So we're going to look at whether there are other sites that we need to open as well. Right now, we're really happy with the pace of enrollment at the five sites, but we definitely have some flexibility to add some additional sites as well.
Okay, great. And then R&D
came in a little lower than last quarter. Should we expect that number to continue going forward or should we see an increase in the number of sites that we're going to be able to open? I'm not taking that.
Right now, thanks for asking for that clarification, by the way. Right now, the only ongoing study at this time is the overpricing study. And as we were just talking about, the activities right now are really funded with the grant funding we receive. We do have sometimes, and Marty kind of alluded to this, other costs associated with overpricing. And those were in the queue as well related to other things that we're doing, obviously, to support the product and certain other activities that we might want to kind of lean into, even related to the study sometimes, like advertising, things like that. But what you've seen in terms of those trends is really reflective of the fact that we don't have other ongoing studies at this time. And so until we do, that's the kind of trend you should expect to continue to see until we have other studies going on at this time.
Okay, thank you. If I could ask one more.
With Sildenafil Cream, you mentioned, I think, last quarter that you needed about a million dollars to get the 503B operations going. Does that apply to the additional products, or will there be an additional cost?
Oh, that's another great question. Yeah, that's very specific to Sildenafil. So that's really the cost associated with supporting our 503B manufacturer with the startup text transfer activities like that that are needed to produce GMP, you know, Sildenafil Cream product. There would be additional costs associated with production activities and tech transfer activities associated with the hormone therapy product. They're in a similar range, you know, as that, but it's because it's for those similar kinds of activities. It's basically to ensure that the manufacturer under GMP has the opportunity to do all the things that are required under GMP and has all of the right equipment and things like that. So as we get closer, the Dairy HRT1, the hormone therapy product is really targeted for next year. So as we continue to progress on that and get closer, we'll be able to give even better guidance around that and what those costs are.
Okay, thank you. But it's
the same kind of ballpark, right? We're talking single digit millions
and not tens of millions. Okay, great. And that
concludes our Q&A session for today. I would like to turn the call back over to Sabridha Murtuchi-Johnson for any additional or closing remarks.
Great. Well, thank you all for taking the time this afternoon and special thanks for the really thoughtful questions. I'll close with basically the same comment I made up front. Repetition's important sometimes, which is that Dairy is uniquely positioned to cut through the noise and deliver value to all of our stakeholders, women, healthcare providers, and investors. Today, biopharmaceutical companies with relatively low risk assets, a competitive advantage, and a path towards near-term revenue are positioned to offer upside. And as I said up front, we believe that is the key to our success rate. I can't stress enough that Women's Health is right for returns. It has been so underfunded and fragmented and with our recently announced expanded business strategy, we believe we're uniquely positioned to deliver that value and returns to all of the stakeholders. With this business model that I hope you will agree is nimble, allowing us to rapidly commercialize multiple products via multiple channels. Four on-market products will accelerate revenue generation and provide a path to profitability, and we expect to start recording revenue in the fourth quarter of this year. The portfolio is compelling, and over the next months, as I've said, we look forward to providing updates regarding strategic partnerships and collaborations to facilitate access to our on-market brands for women across multiple channels. Thank you for listening today and for your support.
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