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spk20: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and watching the DraftKings Q3 2021 earnings call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 1 on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Denton Dodge, Chief Legal Officer. You may begin.
spk17: Good morning, everyone. and thanks for joining us today. Statements we make during this call that are not statements of historical fact constitute forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our historical results or from our forecast. We assume no responsibility for updating forward-looking statements. For more information, please refer to the risks, uncertainties, and other factors discussed in our SEC filings. During the call, management will also discuss certain non-GAAP measures that we believe may be useful in evaluating DraftKings operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for DraftKings financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our quarterly report on Form 10Q filed today with the SEC and in our earnings presentation, both of which are available on our website at investors.draftkings.com. Hosting the call today, we have Jason Robbins, co-founder, chief executive officer, and chairman of DraftKings, who will share some opening remarks and an update on our business, and Jason Park, chief financial officer of DraftKings, who will provide a review of our financials. We will then open up the line to questions. I'll now turn the call over to Jason Robbins.
spk10: Good morning, everyone. On today's call, I will cover the following topics. First, we are very pleased with our Q3 performance. Revenue in the third quarter grew 60% year over year and met our guidance due to continued excellent customer acquisition and engagement. Lower than expected sports betting hold, primarily due to NFL game outcomes, impacted revenue in EBITDA in the quarter. Strong customer acquisition performance in new state launches, particularly Arizona, drove additional promotional investment, which also impacted third quarter revenue in EBITDA. In addition to mobile sports betting launches in Arizona and Wyoming in Q3, We also launched mobile sports betting and iGaming in Connecticut in October. Second, looking forward, the pipeline of new states and Canadian provinces continues to be healthy. Louisiana, Maryland, New York, and Ontario have all authorized mobile sports betting, and Ontario has authorized iGaming. We expect these jurisdictions to launch in the coming months. Third, the migration to our in-house bet engine and proprietary sports betting technology is complete. We are thrilled with the early performance and our new ability to rapidly add innovative features and functionality to our top ranked mobile sports betting app. I'm also very proud of the team for delivering ahead of our scheduled deadline. Fourth, our new growth initiatives, which include DraftKings Marketplace and our content media business are seeing promising earlier results. Fifth, we are very excited about the pending acquisition of Golden Nugget Online Gaming and are working towards closing in early 2022. I will also comment on the discussions we had with Entain. And before turning it over to Jason Park, I will also provide an update on our ongoing responsible gaming and corporate and social responsibility initiatives. We delivered strong revenue growth of 60% in the third quarter of 2021, which met our guidance from our Q2 earnings call. On a same-state basis, as well as adjusting for lower-than-expected hold primarily due to NFL game outcomes, revenue would have been $40 million higher than our guidance. I'm very pleased with our market share in Q3 as well, which reflects the success of our technology migration and the strength of our overall business. Our handle share for mobile sports betting across all active states improved from an average of 31% in July and August to 33% in September. For iGaming, our GGR share improved from an average of 15% in July and August to 17% in September. Third quarter monthly unique payers increased 31% versus Q3 2020 to $1.3 million. which includes a record MUPS of more than 2.1 million in September. Average revenue per monthly unique payer increased 38% to $47. We are particularly proud of the growth in MUPS and ARPMUPS, given that Q3 of 2020 had a jam-packed sports schedule with two months of basketball and hockey that did not occur in this year's third quarter. Fundamental user acquisition, retention, and engagement trends are all tracking better than we had projected last quarter, which sets us up well for the rest of the year in 2022. This was true across all of our products. In week one of the NFL season, we had more than two times the number of mobile sports betting paid actives than we had for NFL week one last year. And in the third quarter of 2021, OSB paid actives on a same-state basis increased 50% compared to the third quarter of 2020. iGaming gross revenue has grown sequentially on a same-state basis in each quarter of 2021, and we expect that sequential growth to accelerate in the fourth quarter. iGaming gross revenue grew 154%, year over year in Q3 2021, including all states, and 82% on a same-state basis. In DFS, we set a single-day record for paid entries on September 12th, and NFL Sundays for weeks two and three were our second and third largest days, reinforcing that our DFS product continues to grow and provide an ongoing cash advantage as new states launch. Looking at New Jersey, our most mature state where we launched mobile sports betting and iGaming in 2018, our MUPS continue to grow at an impressive rate, In the third quarter of 2021, despite not having basketball and hockey, combined OSB and iGaming MUPS grew 23% year over year. MUPS in New Jersey increased 124% versus the third quarter of 2019. We had very successful OSB launches in Arizona and Wyoming in Q3 and launched OSB and iGaming in Connecticut in early Q4. Our launch in Arizona went extremely well and exceeded our internal underwriting case. Our data-driven and highly disciplined marketing approach resulted in much higher than expected new user acquisition in September, which has given us the confidence to continue to invest in acquiring new customers. The result is that we are set up very well to be a leader in the state. We are also very excited about Wyoming, which is a smaller state but offers a meaningful opportunity with visitors to the state. To put the ramp up of Arizona in perspective, it took DraftKings just 17 days to acquire 100,000 first-time paid bettors. compared to 170 days for New Jersey, 312 days for Pennsylvania, and 344 days for Indiana. This was despite the fact that DraftKings did not have DFS in Arizona until August 28, only 12 days before we launched mobile sports betting. In New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Indiana, DFS was operational for more than six years prior to launching mobile sports betting in those states, which makes our customer acquisition success in Arizona even more impressive. Our business momentum has continued into Q4. For DFS, October 3rd, which was the NFL Sunday featuring the Tampa Bay versus New England game, was the highest gross revenue day in our history. For OSB in New Jersey, the October 5th wildcard playoff game between the Yankees and the Red Sox was the highest MLB handle game in our history, beating the previous all-time high by 12%. For iGaming, October was our strongest GGR month of the year by more than 10%, even when excluding the launch of iGaming in Connecticut. We announced on October 13th that as the exclusive odds supplier, DraftKings will provide sports betting information and daily fantasy content across Turner Sports telecast and Bleacher Report digital channels, including the BR app related to Turner's NHL content. On October 18th, we continued to lay the groundwork for our vision of DraftKings Marketplace by announcing a blockchain collaboration with Polygon, which provides us a scalable, eco-friendly blockchain solution that enables added throughput and expanded capabilities. Also, DraftKings now has the option to potentially contribute to Polygon's governance and help secure the network as a validator node. On October 19th, we launched mobile sports betting and iGaming in Connecticut. In Connecticut, DraftKings is one of only three sportsbook operators and two iGaming operators authorized in the state. And on November 4th, we announced an expanded multi-year relationship with the NBA to make DraftKings a co-official sports betting partner of the league. This agreement grants DraftKings expansive NBA rights and assets to integrate within its sports betting, daily fantasy, iGaming, and free-to-play products and promotional offerings. As has been widely publicized, NFL game outcomes have been favorable to players this year for a number of reasons. Primetime NFL games played on Thursday, Sunday, and Monday nights typically have high viewership and therefore high handles. Through Week 7, 71% of NFL primetime favorites and 57% of NFL primetime overs have won in 2021. There also have not been as many big upsets across all NFL games. Before Week 8, there was not a single upset by an underdog of at least 7.5 points. Additionally, we have had four NFL weeks where more than 66% of the favorites won. A very popular parlay bet is to pair a large favorite on the money line with other bets. Therefore, when large favorites win consistently, parlays hit more frequently. Of course, game outcomes can also swing the other way. The last week of October had very favorable results for the house. Between last Thursday and this Monday alone, draft teams generated a positive variance of more than $25 million of revenue compared to our forecast due to favorable event outcomes. While we had a great finish to the month, we still ended October close to $25 million below our forecast due to lower-than-expected hold resulting from player-friendly event outcomes. Despite these outcomes and due to the continued momentum of our business, we are increasing the midpoint of our 2021 revenue guidance, which Jason Park will cover in more detail later on the call. Turning to legalization trends, we have continued to see momentum in mobile sports betting and iGaming. In 2021, 25 state legislatures have introduced legislation to legalize mobile sports betting. Five state legislatures have introduced legislation to expand their existing sports betting frameworks. and two state legislatures have introduced legislation to legalize sports betting limited to retail locations. In addition, four states have introduced iGaming legislation, and three states have introduced online poker legislation. In total, nearly 13% of the U.S. population saw laws passed in their state legalizing competitive online sports betting markets in 2021, demonstrating continued momentum three years after the overturn of PASPA. Following our launches in Wyoming, Arizona, and Connecticut, DraftKings is live with online sports betting in 15 states that collectively represent 29% of the U.S. population. Additionally, DraftKings is now live with five iGaming states, representing approximately 11% of the U.S. population. Three of the states where DraftKings has the potential opportunity to participate via market access agreement or direct license, New York, Maryland, and Louisiana, authorized mobile sports betting this year. These three states represent 9% of the U.S. population and bring the percentage of the population with legalized mobile sports betting to 39%. We are actively preparing to be able to launch in these jurisdictions pending the necessary licensing and regulatory approvals to do so. I also want to comment on California and Florida. In California, we are working with a number of leading online sports betting operators in support of a campaign to bring a well-regulated, safe, and responsible online sports betting market to the states. Legal online sports betting will bring hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue annually to the state, directly funneled to two of its biggest challenges, homelessness and mental health, by providing permanent shelter and housing, as well as addiction services for those in need. The California Solutions to Homelessness and Mental Health Support Act ensures a comprehensive licensing process, one that requires extensive vetting of experienced operators and creates a competitive marketplace as competition for market share will ensure the best products and experience for consumers. In Florida, we continue to work with FanDuel and the Florida Education Champions to collect the signatures required to have a mobile sports betting question on the ballot in November 2022. We are excited for the potential prospect of Florida voters deciding to have a safe, legal, regulated, and competitive market for online sports betting in the state, with a market-leading and technologically advanced product offering. If enacted, all tax revenues from mobile sports betting conducted pursuant to this referendum will be dedicated to defunding the state's public education system. Turning to Canada, Ontario continues to establish parameters for the launch of the online gaming market in the province. We look forward to further progress in Ontario and Canada as a whole. For context, Ontario represents about 40% of Canada's population and would be the fifth largest U.S. state by population were it in America. Moving on to product and technology, I am very proud of all that our team accomplished in the third quarter. For mobile sports betting, we completed the full online and retail migration to our own in-house bed engine in the third quarter. The migration went very smoothly and was completed ahead of schedule. This was the largest technology project we have ever undertaken. It consumed resources that are now free to focus more on innovation, and we are already experiencing benefits from the transition to our own technology. To provide context for our recent product improvement, over the first three weeks of the NFL season, new users bet nearly 20% more on average than new users did during the same period in 2020. and their mix of handle on any type of parlay, as opposed to single event bets, increased to 23% from 15%. We now price approximately 80% of our combined pre-match and live bet handle in-house and aim to increase that percentage over time. In August, we announced the launch of micro-betting across the DraftKings Sportsbook. Integrating micro-betting technology allows our customers to engage even further with the sports they love by betting play-by-play throughout a sporting event. we are particularly proud of the depth of the futures markets and player props that we now offer. For example, in NBA, we are now offering micro bets on approximately 40 different players, covering statistics such as points, assists, and rebounds for each. For iGaming, we continue to benefit from the games we have developed internally. 79% of our iGaming users that played in the third quarter at some point played a DraftKings-developed game. We also added DraftKings Rocket to our mobile iGaming suite in New Jersey on September 1st. Built entirely in-house, DraftKings Rocket is the latest game that our team has developed and follows the addition of both Spanish 21 and DK Crafts earlier this year. In New Jersey, Rocket set a new launch month record for most gross revenue by a DraftKings developed game, improving on the debut of DraftKings Blackjack in New Jersey by 46%. DraftKings is the only provider of Rocket in the United States, and developing this game is further evidence of us bringing ongoing innovation to our consumers. Following our April acquisition of Blue Ribbon Software, jackpots are now live in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Michigan. We are continuing to add to this functionality, including launching a feature that allows multiple games to be attached to a jackpot. In the third quarter, research firm Eilers and Krycheck tested 34 sports betting apps and ranked each on user experience, betting interface, features, core, and aesthetics. As part of this survey, Eilers and Krychek evaluated the new DraftKings app post-migration based on our own in-house technology. I am pleased to say that we ranked number one overall, and we were also ranked in the top three across four of the five criteria, including user experience, betting interface, features, and aesthetics. We are continuing to make significant progress with several exciting new organic growth sectors. The launch of DraftKings Marketplace has been amazing. I'm proud of the highly accessible and easy-to-use experience that we've built, which combined with compelling content has driven positive user engagement. Marketplace is a large opportunity given our ability to cross-sell existing customers and acquire new ones by offering a new way for fans to interact with their favorite athletes and sports moments. The 70 drops on DraftKings Marketplace provided by our partner Autograph were oversubscribed 14 to 1 on average, and the secondary transactions market has seen strong engagement by users seeking to collect their favorite NFTs. In the third quarter, more than one-third of Marketplace users were new to DraftKings. These users completed over 120,000 primary and secondary transactions, totaling approximately $20 million of gross merchandise volume. Since the initial drops, which featured Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, Tony Hawk, Derek Jeter, Naomi Osaka, and Tiger Woods, we have added drops by Usain Bolt and Rob Gronkowski. Recently, Autograph teamed up with Lionsgate and Twisted Pictures to release on DraftKings Marketplace exclusive digital collectibles from Saw, one of the most successful horror franchises in history. Our media business continues to grow as sports betting content is in demand, and we recognize the importance of reaching a wider audience through our own channel. Since we acquired VEASAN, it has expanded its talent lineup and broadcasting footprint. In September, we scaled up production to offer a full 24-7 lineup. We also landed our first nationwide content distribution deal with YouTube TV that delivers VEASAN's leading sports betting news and insights to subscribers as part of YouTube's TV Sports Plus add-on package, and will introduce millions of subscribers to VEASAN's premium content. VEASAN's podcasts and iHeartRadio are also experiencing incredible success as we surpass 4 million downloads in the month of September. We will continue to invest in these exciting and differentiating growth factors into 2022, with the approach that each of them will continue to drive the LTV to cat flywheel that we are creating along with our existing DFS, OSB, and iGaming offerings. I'd also like to provide an update on our acquisition of Golden Nugget Online Gaming. In Q3, we made significant progress towards closing the acquisition of Golden Nugget Online Gaming and have strong plans in place to integrate the business and capture the synergies we outlined in the presentation materials from August. For more information on the strategic rationale for this deal, please refer to the materials on our investor relations website and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I also want to make a few comments on the discussions we recently concluded with Entain. We are continuously looking at multiple organic and inorganic growth opportunities that are accretive to our shareholders, most of which never come to fruition but offer great learning opportunities for me and the team. This situation was unique. Because there was a leak, pursuant to the UK takeover code, it had to be disclosed that we were in discussions, even though the discussions were very early. We had the chance to meet with the leadership of Entain in order to explore the merits of the combination. Entain has a very impressive team, and we have a great deal of respect for the business they have built. However, after carefully assessing a potential transaction and weighing various considerations, including our own organic growth plans as well as other deal flow, we decided not to make an offer. We continue to be very excited about the vision we have for growing DraftKings. We have the industry-leading brand, a vertically integrated technology stack, top-ranked apps across our verticals, a robust and innovative product roadmap, and the best team in the world. We are very well positioned to maintain and grow our leadership position in North America and beyond. We recognize that we are very fortunate and have worked very hard to get to where we are, a company with a strong balance sheet and a clear path to many years of very high growth in a market with tens of billions of dollars of still unrealized hands. The bar for changing that trajectory is incredibly high, and it would take a lot for us to decide to pursue any large asset with a slower growth profile. At the same time, we felt obligated to look at this deal, but just because we look at something doesn't mean we will decide to do it. Turn into corporate social responsibility. DraftKings serves as a catalyst to facilitate meaningful relationships between our employees and customers and the communities and causes they feel passionate about in order to create a better world for everyone. Keeping with our focus on responsibility, we integrated the American Gaming Association's Have a Game Plan, Bet Responsibly public service campaign across our retail sportsbook and into our team partner stadium. Along with our own responsible gaming tag, it's more fun when it's for fun. Last month, our partners at the NFL announced a new responsible gaming initiative in collaboration with the National Council on Problem Gambling. We commend the NFL's commitment to this important work and look forward to our future collaborations to advance safe play. We quickly mobilized our customers to raise funds for Feeding Louisiana in the aftermath of Hurricane Ida. We raised funds for the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation in support of breast cancer research. And we supported three mission-driven organizations for Hispanic Heritage Month with total donations of $625,000. to further our commitment to equity and entrepreneurship. This week, we also announced a relationship with the Pat Tillman Foundation, which honors NFL great turned military hero Pat Tillman. The foundation carries on Pat Tillman's legacy by giving military service members, veterans, and their spouses the educational tools and community support to reach their fullest potential as leaders. We are proud to support the foundation's work and all military personnel, veterans, and their families. I will now turn the call over to drafting CFO Jason Park, who will discuss our third quarter results and revised 2021 guidance.
spk03: Thank you, Jason, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to announce that we generated $213 million in revenue for the quarter, representing a 60% increase versus Q3 2020 revenue of $133 million. Our B2C business generated $189 million for the quarter, representing an 82% increase versus prior year, offset by B2B, which declined 19% versus prior year to $24 million. The year-over-year decline in B2B reflects the impact of the termination of our Asia reseller agreement, which we ended on April 1, 2021, with a transition period that has already ended. In terms of the B2C business, we continue to drive strong growth in player acquisition and retention, as measured through MUPS, as well as player engagement and monetization, as measured through ARPMUPS. B2C monthly unique payers in the quarter increased 31% year-over-year to $1.3 million. The increase reflects the expansion of our OSB and iGaming product offerings into new states and superb retention of existing players. Results reflect typical intra-quarter seasonality, with July and August lower from a MUPS perspective, while in September we had a record 2.1 million MUPS due to the start of the NFL season. Average revenue per monthly unique payer, or ARP MUPS, was $47 in Q3, representing a 38% increase versus the same period in 2020. Our ARPMOP was positively impacted by strong customer engagement, a continued mixed shift into our sportsbook and iGaming product offerings, and cross-selling our customers into more products. We guided to $213 million at the midpoint and delivered $213 million. Revenue would have been $40 million higher were it not for lower-than-forecast hold rates and investment in new state launches. Lower-than-forecasted hold cost us roughly $25 million of revenue in the third quarter. While hold was higher than Q3 prior year, it was lower than we expected, with NFL outcomes being the largest contributor. For context, in September, 67% of primetime favorites won outright and 89% of primetime overs hit. As we've mentioned in the past, Q3 is uniquely exposed to hold variances because of the concentration of just three weeks of NFL games in the quarter. So sport outcomes can impact Q3 results meaningfully. In addition to hold, we launched two new states in Q3, which were not included in our prior guidance. These new states resulted in negative 15 million of net revenue due to new customer promotional investment driven by much better than expected customer acquisition. In Arizona, for example, over the first 30 days, we acquired eight times the number of customers that we acquired in New Jersey on a population-adjusted basis. Customer responses exceeded our own expectations, which we attribute to broader awareness of sports betting and the continuous improvement of our state launch playbook. The net revenue investment was due to promotional contra-revenue in the final weeks of the Q3 period, which has already begun to pay back in Q4. Please note, we are breaking out the impact of lower-than-forecast hold and new state launches because these factors were material to third-quarter results relative to our guidance. We generated $71 million of gross profit dollars on an adjusted EBITDA basis for the entire business in the quarter, representing a 17% increase versus last year. Gross margin rate on an adjusted EBITDA basis for the business was 33% in the quarter versus 46% last year. Very importantly, on a year-over-year basis, our gross margin rate was impacted heavily by the aforementioned investment of net revenue in new states launched in Q3, as well as three additional states, Tennessee, Michigan, and Virginia, that launched after Q3 of 2020. These new states together accounted for more than three-quarters of the year-over-year decrease in gross margin rate. Outside of this, we saw improvement in our COG structure across our product offerings, offset by the ongoing mix shift out of our more mature and thus higher margin VFS product offering and into OSB and iGaming. As a reminder, our COGS as a percentage of revenue for OSB will improve starting in Q4 due to the migration to our in-house bed engine. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was negative $314 million, which includes approximately $60 million of impact from lower-than-forecasted hold percentage and the investment we made in new states. Excluding the $60 million impact of these items, adjusted EBITDA would have been significantly better than the same state-based expectations we provided on our Q2 earnings call. As a reminder, investment in new state launches includes promotional expense, cost of revenue, and external marketing. Our sales and marketing expenses were $289 million, which include our external marketing. External marketing was higher than the third quarter of 2020, as we were live in 14 total states versus nine last year. The five new states represent 10% of the U.S. population and are in their first full NFL season. We continue to see very attractive CAC opportunities that support this investment in marketing. Our general and administrative and product and technology costs on an adjusted EBITDA basis or $58 million and $38 million respectively, as we continue to invest to achieve scale in our back office functions, such as customer service, finance and accounting, legal, and human resources, as well as adding to our technology team, principally for new product development. A majority of the combined $29 million of year-over-year growth in these two expense lines was from compensation for new employees. Much of the headcount growth was in our customer experience department, where we are focused on providing best-in-the-industry customer experience and is impacted by our rapid growth in MUPS. In the quarter, we expense $233 million in items that we exclude from adjusted EBITDA but are included in GAAP operating income, including $176 million for stock-based comp and $57 million for amortization of acquired intangibles, depreciation, and other amortization and other non-recurring expenses. Moving on to our balance sheet and liquidity, we ended the quarter with $2.4 billion of cash on our balance sheet. We are well capitalized to execute our multi-year plan and address our key priorities of customer acquisition, entering new states as they legalize, continuing to lead the market on product innovation, and pursuing accretive M&A. Looking at the rest of 2021, on our August earnings call, we increased the midpoint of our revenue guidance from $1.1 billion to $1.25 billion. Today, we are increasing the midpoint to $1.26 billion and narrowing the range to $1.24 billion to $1.28 billion. We are increasing our guidance because of broad strength in fundamental customer acquisition, engagement, and monetization trends, as well as modest contribution from our three new estates. These factors are offset by close to $25 million and lower than forecasts hold in October, which we assume we do not make up for during the rest of the quarter. October has been an exciting month, to say the least, with two very challenging hold weekends only partially offset by last weekend, which was very positive. Thank you, Jess and Simms. Our revised guidance equates to year-over-year revenue growth of 93 to 99 percent. We expect both MUPS and ARPMUPS to grow in 2021, with MUPS increasing at more than twice the rate as ARPMUPS. This guidance assumes no new states. We expect Q4 EBITDA loss to be a little less than half of our Q3 2021 loss. This is a wider loss than what we communicated in August, primarily because our August guidance did not include new states. We are acquiring customers faster than we expected in our new states at still attractive caps consistent with our two- to three-year payback periods. And on that note, I want to affirm our conviction in our state-level path to profitability. As a reminder, we have discussed a two- to three-year timeframe for new states to become profitable, and at our investor day earlier this year, we confirmed that New Jersey had already reached this threshold on the earlier side of that two- to three-year window. I look forward to providing an update on New Jersey, as well as more detail on path to profitability in additional states early next year once we have full 2021 results. As we look beyond 2021, we have completed our multi-year and annual planning processes and have high confidence that our 2022 revenue will be in the range of $1.7 to $1.9 billion. We are only including states in which we are currently live, and we are utilizing empirical data on cohort performance along with new product functionality and its expected impact. We are also including expected growth from our media and content business as well as DraftKings Marketplace. We are not including the impact of the Golden Nugget acquisition, which we anticipate will close in Q1 of 2022. We are very excited about our growth prospects underpinned by an exciting TAM, sustainable differentiation due to our brand and product and technology capabilities, which drive very attractive unit economics and LTV to CAC ratios. That concludes our remarks, and we will now open the line for questions.
spk20: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. If you have a question or a comment at this time, please press the star, then the one key on your touch-tone telephone. If your question has been answered and you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. And we also ask that you limit yourself to one question. Our first question comes from Bernie Metz-Earning with Needham & Company.
spk04: Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was just wondering, on the Entain offer, Is there a reason why it would be advantageous to go global now? I know it's obviously still pretty early days in the U.S. opportunity. And then within that, how unique is Intane as a potential global asset as you evaluate other M&A framework?
spk10: Thank you, Bernie. So we've laid out a few areas that we would potentially look to in terms of M&A. One is global expansion. also product expansion, also things that we think would help us further improve our position in the U.S. market. So all of those are areas we look at. I think as opportunities come along, it's hard to sort of say, hey, I'm going to do this one first, this one second, this one third. It's kind of like here's the list and we'll look at things as they come along. I think that we were, you know, certainly very impressed with the Entain team and the company they've built. I think they're a great asset. There are other international assets that I think are of interest as well. You know, but Entain's a great company. So in this case, we just decided it wasn't the right thing for us at this time to pursue them. And, you know, I think we'll continue to kind of look at things out there. Most of the things we look at, we don't end up pursuing. And this was a unique one because due to the UK takeover code, a very early discussion had to kind of get publicized when normally we would just never have to see the light of day.
spk04: Understood. Thanks for taking the question.
spk20: You're welcome. Our next question comes from Jed Kelly from Oppenheimer.
spk09: Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just on the guidance for next year, I think you mentioned some of the products. So how much of that factors in sort of migrating SB Tech and closing the yield gap. And then, Jason, just a longer-term one on media. A lot of it seems commoditized between all the different providers. You see it all on Twitter every Sunday. How do you think about differentiating your media strategy? Is it going to be getting tier one sports content on your platform? Thanks.
spk10: So on the first topic, I think that we have really exciting plans and a great product roadmap for next year. I think we recently launched same-game parlays, pushing that and continuing to make that a best-in-class offering and driving additional user adoption I think will be very helpful. We already saw overall parlays move from, I think, 15% to 23% in just a couple of months. So I think with a full year next year under our belt, we think we can really move that percentage up and get a lot more adoption of same-game parlay and parlays in general. And we have a number of other features, including our social features and other things that we think are going to have really exciting developments next year. So we do expect that to contribute. You know, what we would say about that hold question is we're not always really – we don't really look to optimize the rate of hold. We look to optimize gross profit. In some cases, that might mean that you actually drive more volume through having promotions and other things that can drive down hold percentage but end up, you know, being gross profit positive. And then, of course, we look to maximize long-term LTV of our customers. So that's really our primary focus. But I do think some of the things such as the continued adoption of same-game parlays will help drive that rate of holdup as well. On the media question, I agree that there is a lot of commoditized media and content out there. You know, we'll have more to say. I don't want to kind of tip our hand, but I actually am very excited about the strategy that our new chief media officer, Brian, has put together, and I think it's going to allow us to pursue this in a unique and differentiated way. So beyond that, I think there's also just really strong synergies with the things that we have planned along with the core areas of our business now on the DFS, OSB, and iGaming side. So we'll have more to say on that in the coming quarters. Thank you.
spk18: Our next question comes from Joe Grush with JP Morgan. Thank you for taking my question. Jason, thanks for providing 2002 revenue guidance. I was hoping you could speak a little bit maybe directionally on cost of revenue and sales and marketing in 2022 relative to what you've anticipated and incorporated for 2021.
spk10: I think the big wild card with 2022 is, of course, what new state launches look like. We didn't include that in our revenue guidance, but by the time we actually end up publishing results, I'm expecting there will be additional states in there, and that's going to move the needle quite a bit on our external marketing investment. Beyond that, I think right now we really like the flexibility of being able to spend deeper when the results are there. We had tremendous CACs in Arizona. I mean, that just absolutely blew away our expectations at the volume we were able to acquire and keeping that CAC as low as we did. So I think we like the flexibility of being able to spend deeper and not having an external commitment to what sales and marketing would look like. Thank you.
spk20: Our next question comes from Sean Kelly with Bank of America.
spk13: Hey, good morning, everyone. I just wanted to ask a little bit more maybe on the CAC environment. Jason, you know, there's been some discussion out there that maybe the marketing and promotional environment has actually slowed a little bit, you know, just given some really aggressive tactics very early on in the NFL launch. Is that consistent with the behavior you've seen, and sort of how do you think that trends as we move across the order in particular?
spk10: You know, it's hard for me to say what others are doing. We certainly monitor the marketplace, but it's not totally precise. That said, I do think you're right. I do think you're right that, you know, there's been a little bit of a pullback. From our perspective, we just follow the data. So, you know, we're going to spend when the results are coming in, and we're going to pull back if they're not. And we're seeing still really, really strong CACs and really, really good volume coming, not just in new states, but in some of our more tenured states as well. So, That's really our approach. Obviously, the overall media environment has an effect on that, but it cuts both ways. Yes, there's competition for customers, but also more overall spend from the entire industry drives more people into the market, which I think benefits those which we feel we do have the best-in-class products and experiences. I think that's actually an interesting way to look at it that, you know, yes, of course, there's more competition for customers, but it's also growing the market faster. And Arizona is a great example of that where we just, you know, we're way, way ahead of the pace that we've seen in other states like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Indiana, despite the fact that we didn't really have a DFS database there like we did in those other states.
spk13: Thank you very much.
spk20: Thank you. Our next question comes from Thomas Allen with Morgan Stanley's.
spk07: Thanks. I'm going to try and stick two in here. First off, there are news reports this week about you likely getting a license in New York. Can you just talk about how you're going to approach that market and if you think there can be long-term profitability there with such high tax rates? And second, just on the 2022 guide, how much are you thinking about, how much are you embedding NFTs in that guide? Thanks.
spk10: Thanks, Thomas. So, you know, I think we obviously – want to wait and see what the regulator and what the state of New York says about whether we're able to achieve getting that license. Certainly, we would love that, and hopefully those rumors are true. But we'll find out when we find out, and we'll be respectful of that process. That said, if we were to be awarded a license, I think we feel just like we do in other states that we can achieve the same long-term profit margins in New York. There's a lot of levers we can pull such as cutting back on rate of promotion and spending less on external marketing. Those are things I would expect everyone in the industry would do because I don't think anyone's going to want to run at a long-term unprofitable rate in any state. Certainly early on, we'll approach it just like we do other states where we'll invest into it and look for that two- to three-year path to profitability. But I think over the long term, we feel we can achieve something in a similar range to what we're achieving in other states from a long-term margin perspective. And then on the second question, it's not insignificant, but it's not super meaningful either. We have less than $100 million in the plan for the NFTs. We're pretty excited about it. We think it's going to be a growthful product, but we're also taking a measured approach and not putting too much in there and really relying on the strength of the core business to carry it next year in our guidance. Thank you.
spk20: Our next question comes from Michael Grimm with Canaccord.
spk02: Thank you. A quick one, just can you remind us on the magnitude of the gross margin benefit you're expecting to see from the in-house technology switch? And then more broadly, wondering if you can comment, like going back and looking at a more mature state like a New Jersey what are you seeing in terms of player behavior where you're not as focused on gaining new players in terms of, like, what is driving loyalty or what is driving switching? Just any learnings you have there in some of those more mature states that you can apply to the newer states.
spk10: I'll answer the second one first, and then I'm going to turn it to Jason Park to answer the first one. New Jersey, and it's almost funny to call it a more mature state, is still only a little over three years in, and we're still seeing really strong user growth there. That is in part driven by strong loyalty. We're seeing great retention numbers, but we're also still acquiring customers as well. So really excited about New Jersey, really excited about our more tenured states. I think that what we're proving out is that that two- to three-year payback on the customer and two- to three-year path to profitability in a state really will hold, and we're going to talk more about that once we have full year results in the Q1 timeframe. And, you know, I think similar to all of how we approach everything, we're just going to follow the data. As long as customer acquisition is continuing to work, we're going to invest there. Certainly, we expect some of the earlier cohorts to have stronger LTVs, so we're keeping a close eye on that. But New Jersey is still only three years in, and I think if you, you know, obviously a little bit of a different ramp, but if you look at the iGaming market, which is, I think, in its seventh or eighth year at this point, it's still growing 30-plus percent. We're growing more than that. So, you know, I think New Jersey you're going to see grow for many years to come. And then, Jason, do you want to take the first question?
spk03: Yeah, sure. Hey, good morning, Mike. The gross margin rate impact from being vertically integrated does commence in Q4. As a reminder, it's roughly high single digits of revenue. for the OSB product offering only, so please don't apply that to the entire business for the OSB product offering, and that essentially goes away in Q4.
spk20: Okay, thanks a lot. The next question comes from Steven Greven with Goldman Sachs.
spk05: Hi, thanks. You made a comment that nobody wants to run an unprofitable business, and it seems like some peers from piecing together public disclosures may be running sports betting at near I would say even close to zero revenue, let alone profit, to feed into iGaming. Are you seeing any of this dynamic playing out, and how do you think about your strategy in that context? Thanks.
spk10: I think, you know, it is still very early in the market, and I'm not so sure that that's going to continue long-term. As far as, you know, how it interplays between products, we're always looking at total value. So, you know, Right now, that doesn't seem like an approach that we think based on what we see makes sense, but could it ever be something that us or others think makes sense? Perhaps. But I don't see that as a likely outcome. I think that sports betting on its own is going to be a very profitable business for us. We're already seeing that in New Jersey as an example. So I expect that to be the case across states. Also, most states don't have iGaming at this point. There's about 39% of the population with legalized sports betting, and Only, I think, 11%, I want to say, with iGaming. So we really have to feel like we can run the sports betting vertical at a profit, even just to make it work from that perspective.
spk05: Great. Thanks so much.
spk20: Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Stoff. This is for Hannah.
spk14: Good morning. Just a question on user growth. You know, 2.1 million MUPs in September. With the NBA launching in October, I would imagine that number directionally is going to go up. What's the right way to think about how that is going to, say, evolve both going into November as well as December? And then New Jersey, MUP growth at 23% in the third quarter, which you said, Jason, is interesting. I'm curious to see, is it fair to assume most of that MUP growth is really sourcing from the sports... side of the product offering. Thank you.
spk10: I'm sorry, can you say the second question one more time and I'll answer?
spk14: Sure. In New Jersey, you know, your MUP growth up 23% in the third quarter. Are most of those new users really coming from the sports side of your product offering?
spk10: So on your first question, overall MUPs, we think Q4 will be in a similar range to what September was. Yes, you're right, NBA starting, but also as the NFL season continues, there's less activity. Right now, I think that we're still seeing really strong month-over-month going into both October and early November, but historically, we've seen that turn down a bit, and then it tends to pick back up again once the playoffs start and going into the Super Bowl. In terms of New Jersey... It's really a combination of customer acquisition and also really strong retention that's driving that. And, you know, our sports offering is certainly a big driver of what gets people there. Once we have them on the platform, they're playing across products, so it's really hard to say, you know, is sports driving more actives or is it iGaming? But, you know, our goal, of course, is to get as much crossover as possible, and we've been able to cross-sell over 50% of our online sportsbook customers into iGaming. I think typically sports is where we acquire the players, but in a state that's a few years in like New Jersey where there's so much being driven off of existing cohorts, it's really hard to say.
spk20: Thank you. Our next question comes from Carl Santorelli with Deutsche Bank.
spk16: Hey, guys. Thanks. Jason, if you could, when you guys think about how kind of the whole percentage and directionally, when you think about the whole percentage, we all look at obviously state data and there's a lot that's in there that we don't necessarily have, you know, full transparency of. But when you look at like kind of average funded holds that get reported of 8%, how would you say that that number compares to what the reality is when you kind of take out the promo aspect of what drags those holds lower?
spk03: Hey, Carla, this is Jason Park. I'll try to tackle that one. I totally agree with you. The state tax reports, I think it's really important to remind everyone those are regulatory and tax reports, and trying to bridge those to GAAP can be difficult, not to mention that every state has a slightly different definition of hold and handle. So I think that's the most important thing. It is difficult. Having said that, we do see those, and we notice, I think, what you're noticing, which is, you know, DraftKings is sort of at parity with the broad swath of the industry. There's a couple outliers. I think the right way to think about it is, you know, what would drive those state tax report hold numbers, hold percentages higher for certain competitors, and it really just comes down to a couple different vectors. I think product mix is a big one, and certain operators just likely have a higher parlay mix as a percentage of their total handle, which would which would drive hold percentage up. And as you know, we've launched same-game parlay, and we're really excited about the traction there. So I think that will change over time. And then another potential reason is just promotional mix, which really does get obfuscated in the state tax reports. And to the extent that an operator uses more free bets, that can really sort of make the state tax reports look like they have a higher hold percentage of those free bets come through at a very high hold percentage.
spk10: Yeah. And then just to add to that last point, the free bet doesn't pay out the stake. So it inflates the hold rate versus odds boosts or other sorts of things that are directly affecting the odds. That takes it down. The promotional impact from a gap perspective might be similar, but the state hold rate looks higher and the tax basis looks higher. And That's one of the factors we consider when deciding what types of promotions to run. Obviously, we want to do what's best for the customer, but we're also looking at how we optimize for taxes. Great. Thank you, guys. Thank you.
spk20: Our next question comes from Daniel Adam with Loop Capital Markets.
spk15: Hi. Good morning, guys. Regarding the $25 million hold impact to revenues in the quarter, what was the EBITDA impact from hold in Q3 this And then separately, yesterday Penn called out a $12.5 million lobbying expense in California. Just wondering, were you guys part of that lobbying consortium as well? And if so, did that flow through the P&L in Q3?
spk03: Yeah. So the flow through on the Q3 $25 million, and this would apply to Q4 as well, is very high flow through. There are It is not 100% flow-through because there are certain elements of COGS that you still have to pay regardless of what the GGR is.
spk10: Yeah, and so on the second question, we are part of the consortium in California. There are seven operators that have contributed to it, and we've raised about $100 million so far. So I think we're really well positioned there. As far as how it impacted the P&L, I think it does. Does it get included in? it's adjusted out, so it is not part of our adjusted EBITDA. Male Speaker 1 Okay, great. Thanks, Chris.
spk20: Male Speaker 2 Our next question comes from Robin Farley with UBS.
spk12: Robin Farley Great, thanks. I just wanted to understand some of the puts and takes for the change in your full-year guidance. You mentioned that Marketplace would contribute about $100 million to next year, so thinking that maybe $25 million to the 21 change in guidance, And you highlighted the hold issues in Q3 and Q4. How much for new states, because your previous guidance didn't include new states that have since come online. So just how much is that piece? Thanks.
spk10: So Marketplace, I know I said less than 100. It's in the 70s. And we launched it in August of this year. So I think that this year it's going to be closer to, you know, 10, 15 versus 25, but we don't really know yet. It's still sort of a very new product, so we've actually been, I think, quite conservative with how we've looked at that and the guidance. As far as the, you know, new state impact to next year, we have not included any new states. Were you asking about next year, sorry, or this year?
spk12: Oh, no. So the new states this year, so I know the net change in year 21 guidance and just what piece of it was new states.
spk10: Okay. So new states are pretty modest in terms of their contribution in Q4, and they're actually close to zero in terms of the year. So as we noted in our earnings call, we had about $14 million, $15 million investment in Arizona in particular that hit Q3 on a negative revenue side. we're going to make back less than that in the Q4 timeframe. So really, there's really no impact from new states on the guide this year. In fact, if anything, it's slightly negative.
spk12: Okay. No, that's helpful. And I appreciate that you guys are now breaking out the hold impact. Is there anything when we think about next year, because you talked about the negative hold in Q3 and Q4, is there anything that was above average hold that benefited in the first half that we should think about that would be a tougher comp for you or that would make your guidance next year actually incrementally better?
spk10: Yeah, we actually mentioned in our Q2 call that we held above what we were forecasting. So we had a positive variance in Q2. We can go back and look and see. I think we quantified that. Yeah, we quantified it, but happy to offline. have our team point you towards the materials. And then Q1, Jason, do you remember if that was also above?
spk03: It was also a good guy in Q1.
spk10: Yeah, so we had another positive variance in Q1. So you're right, the first half of the year did benefit. It swings both ways, of course, but we can point you towards some of the specific numbers as you think about next year offline.
spk12: Yeah, I appreciate that. I don't think you had quantified the first half completely, so thanks.
spk20: You're welcome. Our next question comes from David Katz with Jefferies.
spk01: Hi. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. You've started to roll in micro-betting and in-game wagering, which I've understood historically has higher hold, considerably so. Number one, has that performed the way you've expected it to so far? And second, should that be accretive to hold percentages you roll more and more of it in?
spk10: So definitely have seen an increase in parlay mix, as we noted, went up, you know, already in just a couple short months from 15% of our whole, or excuse me, of our, is it revenue or handle? Handle. Of our handle to 23%. You know, interestingly, because so many favorites hit and so many money line favorites hit, you know, it swings both ways. Overall, it can be a positive, but when you have a lot of favorites winning, it can actually go the other way. Parleys just tend to have higher variance in general, even though the average is higher. We do expect over a longer period of time, which hopefully Q4 will be, and certainly we expect for 2022, to see those continue to increase both as a percentage of handle and then also have a positive impact on our hold rate and our revenue overall. Some of that is built into the guide for next year. Perfect. Thank you.
spk20: Our next question comes from Dan Pollitzer with Wells Fargo.
spk11: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I just want to drill a bit more into Entang. Can you talk a bit more about your rationale there for approaching them? Was it global technology or cash flow? And then just on your rationale for walking away, was it more of a function of price, deal complexity, or something else altogether?
spk10: So, you know, as we noted earlier, one of our pillars, we think, for long-term growth will be global expansion and That could happen soon. It could happen years from now. We don't have a set timetable. We kind of look at different things as they come about as long as they fit a long-term strategy. So this is one that we thought potentially could have been a good route for global expansion. As far as why we walked away, I think there are a variety of factors, and certainly value is one of them, but there are a variety of factors that led us to feel like it just wasn't the right thing for us to do at this time. I think deal complexity was probably a smaller part of it, although not an entirely unmeaningful factor. It was really more about our confidence in our current trajectory in the U.S., our desire to focus on the U.S., and ultimately the value that we felt like we would be shedding by pursuing that asset.
spk11: Understood. Thanks so much.
spk20: Our next question comes from Chad Bain. I'm with Macquarie.
spk08: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. With respect to your $25 million stock investment in Vivid, how should we think about what the intention was for this if you have more access to the industry and you'll be able to learn more and kind of what your plans are in the future in the ticket space? Thanks.
spk10: Well, we're very excited about the relationship we've developed with Vivid. We have a lot of interesting things planned, which we'll be unveiling in the coming quarters. And ticketing is certainly an area that we think overlaps. We have sports fans, and tickets are often bought by sports fans to sporting events. And sports fans go to other events, too, like concerts and things like that. Our expectation is that with a hopeful return to post-pandemic, we're going to see a lot more activity in terms of concerts and sporting events. It seems like demand is up for those things. We also got a really good deal. We don't typically invest. It's not a way that we really use investor capital often. We, in fact, established a totally separate entity called Drive by Drive Kings, which is our vehicle that we see is really the bulk of the investments that would be considered would be through that, albeit earlier stage. In the case of Vivid, we got a great deal because along with the investment, we got a put right, which protects us 100% on the downside. So beyond just wanting to have a deeper relationship with them. We also felt like it was just a really smart use of capital for the next year or so.
spk08: Thank you very much.
spk20: Our next question comes from Barry Jonas with Shula Securities.
spk06: Hey, guys. Maybe just a high-level question. As you think about that $1.7 billion EBITDA target you presented at your analyst day, where do you see the most areas for upside and I guess also downside as we sit here today?
spk10: Well, I think it's a great question. There's a few areas I think that could have upside. One is the TAM could end up just being larger than we think. Certainly, we've seen evidence that the industry is developing faster and remains to be seen if that's actually an indication that the TAM is larger, but that could very well be a possibility. Secondly, I think you could see a deeper amount of legalization. We only assume, for example, 30% of the population would have iGaming and 65% would have sports betting, and already we're at 39% for online sports betting and 11% for iGaming less than three years, or a little over, excuse me, three years since PASPO was overturned. So that could be another area of upside. Additionally, some of the areas we've talked about, expansion, both global and product expansion, are not built into there. I think there could be some upside in that as well. We're particularly excited about the marketplace product that we launched. We have big plans in the media and content space. And at some point, we'll have to see when, we do think we'll expand globally. So I think there's a lot of upside along all of those dimensions. As far as where there could be downside, I mean, I think the biggest assumption that we're focused on is around the share. And so far, that's done great. I mean, despite the fact that The narrative has been competition, competition, everyone jumping in. We actually saw our share rise in September. We went up 2% in mobile sports betting. We went up 2% in iGaming. We're now above our long-term target for mobile sports betting. We're right in the middle of the range for our long-term target for iGaming, and that's despite the fact that we're in perhaps the most competitive time. Certainly, I hope it's near the peak, but I think there's good argument that this is as competitive as it's ever going to get, so... Um, certainly we're, we're pretty excited about that. I think that, um, you know, there might even be some upside there as well on the share side, but right now we feel comfortable with what we've guided to long-term.
spk06: Really helpful. Thank you.
spk20: You're welcome. Our last question comes from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig Howland Capital Group.
spk19: Thanks for taking our question. Um, just one on the negative NGR and impact to revenue from promos and new state launches. Uh, Is that a primary function of the start of football and Q3 impacting that, or is that the right assumption as we think about new state launches throughout other parts of the year?
spk10: So I think that for – I'll answer that in two ways. One, we are always optimizing our go-to-market playbook. I think we've gotten way better, and that's part of why we've acquired so quickly in a state like Arizona where we achieved 100,000 customers hundreds of days earlier than some of our older, more tenured states took. And part of that is figuring out what the right cocktail of external marketing spend is, what promos work, how to mix everything, you know, channel mix, other things. So I think that's been a big thing that we've improved on and the results are pretty striking. So that's part of what I would say that it's hard to say this is going to be, you know, we're three years into this thing and I think it's hard to say that, like, this is going to be exactly how it looks for any long-term period of time and we're always following the data and doing analytics to make it better. That said, I do think you're right that football is going to be or has been a big driver here because the volume of new customers that you can acquire, let's say a state launched in the middle of like May. There's no way we would have been able to achieve the volume of new customers that we achieved in some of the states that launched at the beginning of football season. That's just always the best time of year to acquire customers. So when you have more new customers coming in faster, it's going to drive more promotional investment, more external marketing investment. And that's what I think you saw in Arizona and to, of course, a lesser extent, but still important, Wyoming. And, you know, despite the fact that I said in the beginning we're always optimizing, I would be surprised if that ever changes unless there's some, you know, if football ever becomes less of a, you know, the outsized, you know, customer acquisition time than maybe, but I don't see that changing anytime soon. Thank you.
spk20: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Q&A portion of today's conference. I'd like to turn the call back over to our host for any closing remarks.
spk10: Thank you all for joining us on today's call. We appreciate your questions and look forward to continuing our conversations with you. We're excited for what the rest of the year and beyond holds for us. I hope you all stay safe and well, and we look forward to speaking with you on our next earnings call in February.
spk20: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.
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