5/9/2025

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Conference Operator
Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the DraftKings first quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Michael DiLeglio, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Michael DiLeglio
Senior Director of Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Certain statements we make during this call may constitute forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors as discussed further in our SEC filings that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our historical results or from our forecasts. We assume no responsibility to update forward-looking statements other than as required by law. During this call, Management will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures that we believe may be useful in evaluating DraftKings operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for DraftKings financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release and presentation, which can be found on our website and in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. Hosting the call today, we have Jason Robbins, co-founder and chief executive officer of DraftKings, who will share some opening remarks and an update on our business. Following Jason's remarks, our chief financial officer, Alan Ellingson, will provide a review of our financials. We will then open the line to questions. I will now turn the call over to Jason Robbins. Thank you, Mike.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining. We are off to a strong start to the year. If not for customer-friendly sport outcomes in March, we would be raising our fiscal year 2025 revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. There are four important takeaways that we are sharing today. First, our core value drivers are outperforming our expectations. Our product enhancements are driving higher structural sportsbook hold percentage and more efficient deployment of promotions, while sportsbook handle is strong and consistent with our expectations. We now expect revenue to grow 32% year-over-year in fiscal year 2025 and 36% year-over-year spanning the second through fourth quarters. Second, sport outcomes were once again customer-friendly in the first quarter. A favorable Super Bowl was more than offset by favorites dominating the men's NCAA basketball tournament. For the first time in tournament history, all four number one seeds reached the final four and three number two seeds and one number three seed reached the elite eight. Across the entire tournament, Higher seeds won at an 82% rate, which is the highest rate in history. We acknowledge that customer-friendly sport outcomes have impacted recent quarters and are continuously analyzing our data, including historical performance by bet type, to fully understand the gap between our structural and actual hold percentage. Our analyses provide a strong confidence that the recent volatility we've experienced is random in nature. Third, we are well-positioned for the evolving macroeconomic environment. Online gaming was resilient in more mature jurisdictions globally during the global financial crisis, and today our customer metrics continue to be strong, consistent with forecasted trends. We are also beginning to realize efficiency as broader corporate demand softens in areas such as advertising. Fourth, we have a healthy balance sheet. We completed the first quarter with $1.1 billion of cash after repurchasing 3.7 million of our shares. Looking ahead, We expect our balance sheet to strengthen further as free cash flow accumulates. With that, I will turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer, Alan Ellingson.

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Alan Ellingson
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Jason. I'll hit the highlights, including our first quarter 2025 performance, as well as our fiscal year guidance. Please note that all income statement measures discussed, except for revenue, are on a non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA basis. As Jason mentioned, our core value drivers are outperforming our expectations. In the first quarter, we generated $1,409,000,000 of revenue, representing 20% year-over-year growth and $103,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. New customer acquisition was consistent with our expectations and highly efficient as we continue to leverage our brand and scale while optimizing our marketing channel mix. Sportsbook handle increased 16% year-over-year to $13.9 billion and was consistent with our expectations as the NCAA men's and women's college basketball tournaments attracted strong customer activity. For the jurisdictions where we were live in Sportsbook before 2024, handle increased 11% year-over-year. Structural Sportsbook hold percentage of 10.4% outperformed our expectations and was an increase of 60 basis points year-over-year driven by partly handled mix increase of 370 basis points year-over-year. Actual sportsbook hold percentage was 9.5%, as a favorable Super Bowl was more than offset by customer-friendly NCAA basketball tournament outcomes. Promotional reinvestment as a percentage of gross gaming revenues was more efficient year-over-year, even with the previously mentioned customer-friendly sport outcomes at the end of the quarter. Our adjusted gross margin increased more than 100 basis points year-over-year to 45%, as a result of both the higher structural sportsbook hold percentage and the improved promotional efficiency. Adjusted operating expenses slightly outperformed our expectations as we worked to integrate recent acquisitions while maintaining cost discipline across the organization. Now I'll touch on our fiscal year 2025 guidance. In February, we guided fiscal year 2025 revenue of $6.3 billion to $6.6 billion. and adjusted EBITDA of $900 million to $1 billion. Today, in light of Q1 results, we are revising our fiscal year 2025 revenue guidance to $6.2 billion to $6.4 billion, and adjusted EBITDA of $800 million to $900 million. Importantly, if not for customer-friendly outcomes in March, we would be raising our fiscal year 2025 revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges at this time. Core value drivers continue to improve, reflected in our higher structural Sportsbook hold percentage and the optimization of the deployment of promotions. Sportsbook handle has been strong and consistent with our expectations. These trends account for $50 million higher revenue and $37 million higher adjusted EBITDA across the full year. Customer-friendly sport outcomes year-to-date were a headwind of $170 million for revenue and $111 million to adjusted EBITDA. Maryland increasing its tax rate on sports betting and Jack Pocket shutting down digital lottery courier operations in Texas and New Mexico are a combined headwind of $30 million to revenue and $26 million to adjusted EBITDA. We are also providing additional fiscal year 2025 guidance detail. We continue to expect Sportsbook net revenue margin of 7% to 7.5% as we anticipate higher structural Sportsbook hold percentage and increased promotional efficiency to offset the impact from customer-friendly support outcomes year-to-date. We now expect our adjusted gross margin to be 46%, an improvement of more than 300 basis points year-over-year compared to fiscal year 2024. We continue to expect stock-based compensation expense to represent 6% of revenue in fiscal year 2025. We expect the bridge between adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow to be approximately $100 million and therefore expect to generate free cash flow of about $750 million in fiscal year 2025. In the second quarter, we expect revenues to increase approximately 25% year-over-year and for adjusted EBITDA to exceed $200 million. That concludes our remarks. We will now open the line for questions.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press star 1-1 again We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from David Katz with Jefferies. Your line is open.

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David Katz
Analyst, Jefferies

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to just raise the issue of M&A, not from a perspective of will you or won't you, but rather what are the boundaries as you see them today use of equity, tolerance for leverage, trajectory to accretion, anything that you can give us some perspective on. Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, David. So I think the best way to think about it is M&A, like anything, is just part of an overall evaluation of what's the best way to create value for our shareholders. And I think including the questions you asked around, you know, how if you did do M&A, you would ultimately, you know, think about equity versus debt versus cash on the balance sheet. And a good example of that would be some of the acquisitions we made last year, like Simple Bet, Sports IQ, and Mustard Golf, which Really, we're now seeing paid dividends in our increase in live handle as well as the cost reductions we've seen by bringing those costs in-house, which alone were enough to pay for the deals. So that we thought was a great use of shareholder capital because even with no revenue upside, which we do believe is there, we were easily paying back at our thresholds of cost of capital. You know, things like that I think may make sense, but they're really part, as I said, of an overall evaluation, including buybacks and other organic investments that we can be making as well.

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David Katz
Analyst, Jefferies

And quickly as my follow-up, you know, I wonder if you all share some of the stress that we have over the conversation of hold, of structural hold versus actual hold. And, you know, are we sure we have the right structural hold and, you know, You know, do we get there and when? I suppose there's a bunch of discussions in there. Yeah, thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

No, I mean, listen, I'd be asking the same things. We've had a couple really bad quarters in a row in terms of outcomes. This quarter, this past quarter, was looking great until March Madness. So, you know, that does happen. We have analyzed, as we always do, everything thoroughly, and we are 100% confident that these are random outcomes. I think another way to think about it, too, is that, you know, even if there were something that fundamentally changed, like I've heard theories like NIL is driving more, you know, winning amongst the top ranked teams in college sports. First of all, we didn't see that in college football. But, you know, certainly this year, there were a lot of favorites that won in the college basketball tournament, 82%, which was an all time high. One year does not a trend make, but It is something, of course, that has a legitimate theory behind it. But in that case, it wouldn't change who the favorites are. It wouldn't change if customers are betting on favorites. It would just optimize the lines a little bit. So to your question, if that is something that's going on, the models will pick that up and it will converge. So unless there's fundamental changes that are happening on a frequent basis in sports, structural hold and hold should converge over time. But part of sport is that there are randomness to outcomes and things happen. That's why people watch sports and want to bet on sports. It's part of what makes the customer experience great. So there are periods where you're going to have quarters, two, three in a row sometimes with bad outcomes, maybe even more. But obviously there could be the opposite too. So we'll just have to kind of wait and see if things normalize. I expect they will because they always seem to.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you very much. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Sean Kelly with B of A. Your line is open.

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Sean Kelly
Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Hi, good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions. Jason, maybe we could just start with the big question we received across the board is around handle growth and sort of what we've seen broadly across the market. A lot of your commentary in the letter was really positive around that. But just to put a fine point on it, have we seen a deceleration as you kind of move through Q1? and into April as we've left North Carolina? And two, do you expect trends to pick up from here and what would drive that if you do?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, we've seen pretty strong whole growth this year. You know, definitely a little bit of a slowdown in April relative to Q1, but still seeing strong growth in April. It's only down a bit. But, you know, I think that is much of a sports seasonality type thing. NBA was a little bit weaker this year than some, but the playoffs have actually been picking up. So I don't expect Q2 to be too bad. I think it's probably going to end up being high single digits to low double digits growth would be my guess in terms of overall handle. But, you know, as a perspective, March was 14% up year over year for us. The quarter, as you know, is up 16%. And then baseball year to date is up about 16%. So those are some data points that might be helpful in thinking about where things are headed.

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Sean Kelly
Analyst, Bank of America Securities

That's great. And just for a quick follow-up, iGaming was an area that sort of tracked a little bit behind what we were thinking and a little bit behind state-reported GGR figures if we did the math right. So your comments there, was there something going on as it relates to promotion or bonusing? And sort of what are you doing to kind of get that product on an NGR basis back up to the growth rates you might expect, which might be a little closer to high teens than the 14% that was on the quarter? Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Well, I mean, we believe it should be even higher. April, we were in the mid-20s percentage growth year over year, 26%. So really feel like that's where we should be trending. We made some significant changes and improvements, I think, in both the product as well as the marketing and operations and promotion deployment, and I think the combination of those things have led to accelerated growth in April, and we expect that to continue.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Stephen Grambling with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

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Stephen Grambling
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, thank you. Maybe following up on both David and Sean's questions, but tying in promotions, looks like they were down as a percentage of handle year over year. How should we be thinking about where promotions as a percentage of handle should shake out in the year and or longer term? And any impact you think about that having on handle as well?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think it's going to be a balance, you know, as structural hold rises to think about it in terms of handle. I think thinking about it as a percentage of hold of GGR or even, you know, structural hold. I think is a good way to think about it as well. But I do, you know, we've said this for a time and it will continue to go down even if nothing else changes in terms of, you know, other optimizations because of the mix of new users becoming less and less of the total user pool over time, total customer pool. So that I think is part of what happened in Q1. And You know, I think the other point I made is that GGR we expect, sorry, hold rate, we expect to continue to rise as the product continues to develop and as more and more customers shift into parlays and things like that. So, you know, if that happens, then I think you could potentially see a flattening or even slight rise in terms of promo as a percentage of hold, but it should definitely continue to decline as a percentage of GGR.

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Stephen Grambling
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's helpful, and maybe an unrelated follow-up. In the release and in the letter, you talked about an AI kind of first strategy with the business. Where are the biggest opportunities to leverage and or deploy AI, or where is it currently being used?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

I think this has been a real big win for us over the last quarter or so, maybe two. It's gone from something where pockets of the company were utilizing it to becoming a company-wide movement. It's really great to see. I mean, you know, once example I point to is that all the time we would see people thinking about what can I do if I had more headcount? And now people are totally shifting that mindset to what could I do with AI? It's just an amazing thing. And as far as where opportunities are, it's really across the board on both the revenue and cost side. There's not a place that you can't see efficiency gain throughout the company. Everything from documents being created and summarized and You know, customer service, not having to spend 45 minutes to an hour tracking down, you know, dozens and dozens of emails or other communications a customer sent because an AI tool can summarize everything that's been happening in a case to date in two seconds, actually less. It's just really a remarkable thing to see how much people have really started to understand how this can be life-changing and business-changing, and we're leaning in really hard.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Sounds great. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Robin Farley with UBS. Your line is open.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS Securities

Great. Thanks. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about your market share in basketball. It seemed like given the strength or the acceleration of your handle growth overall in the quarter, some others talked about softness and handle in basketball. So I wonder if you could tell us a little bit about maybe if there was some share shift there. Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I do think we believe we gained some share. I think a big part of the story here has been live betting. Live betting is up significantly for us year over year. Really, I think some of the investments we alluded to earlier, like SimpleBet and some of the others, I think have really helped us accelerate our live betting options and You know, I think also those are coming with better hold and stronger adoption at the same time, which is the perfect combination. So that's been a big part of the story of what's driving our handle up, and I do think we've gained some share.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS Securities

Great. And then just as my follow-up, I wonder if you can help us think about how growth rates should look. You know, you talked about handle being up 16% in the quarter and for the pre-'24 states up 11%. you know, not a surprise, right, that maybe some of those initial growth rates flow, that we should expect that and all. Can you help us also think about even more what that rate of growth looks like sort of over a period of two or three years, right? If we looked at like the 20 states that started in 2021 versus states in 2022 versus 2023, sort of what that rate of, you know, sort of maybe maturing handle would look like?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's hard to look at handle and isolation, because remember, as a state matures, there's a number of metrics that move together to drive increasing contribution profit. Handle growth is obviously one of them, but also our hold rate is going up, promotions continue to decline as states mature, and marketing spend continues to go down as states mature. You know, those things all combine to create significant inflection of contribution profit. Obviously, we'd like our handle growth to be as strong as possible, but we don't really look at it in isolation. We look at it as one of multiple things that we're monitoring. And, you know, sometimes when you're doing things like, you know, reducing promo and increasing hold rate, that's not going to always maximize the handle growth, but it still might be the optimal cocktail. So that's always how we look at it.

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Robin Farley
Analyst, UBS Securities

Great. Very helpful. Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ben Miller with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

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Ben Miller
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Can you just talk about the underlying dynamics around the handle acceleration versus the MUPS deceleration when you exclude jack pocket and just any color you can provide on what you're seeing in the cohort data by vintage around handle versus users would be helpful. Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think the Q1 mops were actually consistent with our expectations, but we did see that handle acceleration you mentioned. So, you know, as I said, a big part of that is live betting. Live betting in Q1 was actually up to greater than 50% of our total handle, the first time that's ever happened. We think there's even more upside from there. As we've said, you know, we've seen stats that it's as high as 70, 80% of GGR in some cases for operators in more mature markets. So we think there's a ton of opportunity there, but Really happy to see that. MLB live handle, it's early in the season, but it's up 36% year-over-year for April. Really great to see. So we think there's a ton of upside there, and as we noted in the last couple quarters, that's where we've been leaning in. But certainly also continue to focus on driving pre-match handle and bet mix, and also been a great story on the bet mix side. We've had tremendous year-over-year gains in terms of both SGP and parlay mix and overall average leg count.

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Ben Miller
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. And then just on the prediction markets, obviously a lot of moving pieces there, but I'm curious how your conversations with state legislators and tribes have evolved in the context of prediction markets and whether that's catalyzing states that are not legal to refocus efforts in some way.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

You know, it's definitely something that they're talking about. And it's early days, so it's hard to say at this point that it's really catalyzed anything because we haven't seen, you know, any states that are like, yeah, we're going to do this now. But definitely I think step one, which as you noted, is getting their attention and making them start having those conversations. We are seeing that happen. You know, and I think as it continues to grow, that's just going to continue to be a powerful lever that this is happening kind of whether you want to or not. So do you want to do it and a way that makes sense if you're a California tribe or if you're a state that hasn't legalized it yet that allows you to prosper or do you want to watch it happen somewhere else? And I think that's something that everybody's talking about right now.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Great. Thanks so much. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Brent Montoya with Barclays. Your line is open.

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Brent Montoya
Analyst, Barclays

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. So first one on OSB, could you remind us, you know, what is implied for structural hold in the second half of 25 guidance, particularly NFL, and maybe talk through the lens of parlay mix. You know, what are you looking for in terms of parlay mix lift year over year in the second half versus the trajectory that you were on as of the first quarter year over year?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so in terms of the back half, structural hold should be a little north of 11. It's going to be a bit lower, like just below 11% in Q3 and then over 11% in Q4. So that's, I think, the best way to think about it. And really the driver of that, as you kind of alluded to, is NFL, but also NBA, which are the two best sports in terms of structural hold as far as the major sports go because of the heavy SGP and parlay mix.

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Brent Montoya
Analyst, Barclays

That's really helpful, Jason. And then just more of a near-term modeling question, the release says, just to be done, the 2Q should exceed $200 million. That's a reasonable ways off from what's currently implied in the consensus numbers. So maybe you could just talk about the way that you split up the hold impact between the first quarter and April, and then anything else we should think about in terms of comparisons for the next couple quarters.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, that's part of why we said it, because we haven't always provided color on a quarter-by-quarter basis at the beginning of the year. We typically don't, but, you know, wanted to obviously help, you know, since we saw that the Q2 numbers and contentions were a little bit off. As far as outcomes go, about 50 million, or sorry, excuse me, 30 million of outcome headwinds were in April. So, you know, not a huge number. And that's, sorry, that's on the revenue side, so obviously less impact on the EBITDA side, about, you know, probably 20, 21 million of that flows through. So, yeah, it's definitely somewhat of the impact, but it's not really. It was more just the allocation across quarters was a little bit different in our model than what the street had.

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Stephen Grambling
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks, everybody.

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Conference Operator
Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Jordan Bender with Citizens. Your line is open.

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Jordan Bender
Analyst, Citizens

Good morning, everyone. You gave parameters around M&A and how you think about potentially getting that done, but curious to get your thoughts around becoming larger on a global scale through M&A and just more broadly, maybe your updated thoughts around your ambitions for international expansion. Thank you.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, I think we continue to feel the same way. We've been sort of articulating over the past years when it comes to international. It's something that we don't need, but we do believe that if the right opportunity emerges, it's something that fits well and could create synergies. But we don't feel like we need it right now. We think we have a ton of growth in the U.S., and so that's our focus. But if the right opportunity came about internationally, we think it's something we should look at because we do have global ambitions one day. But Obviously, we'll be very selective there, and the bar is very high given our focus on the U.S. and our opportunity in the U.S., and we understand that, and we know that anything we might do elsewhere, we have to do with a very high bar because the opportunity here and any distraction from that is costly, too.

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Jordan Bender
Analyst, Citizens

Great. And then just to follow up, you just gave the back half of the year expected hold. From what I can tell, below 11% in the third quarter, above 11% in the fourth quarter implies a potential slowdown in that growth year over year. Just curious if that's correct and what could be driving that?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

No, I don't think it's a slowdown. We're seeing structural hold increases and expect to see that in the back half of the year as well.

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Jordan Bender
Analyst, Citizens

Okay. Thank you very much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Joe Stauff with Susquehanna. Your line is open.

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Joe Stauff
Analyst, Susquehanna

Thanks. Good morning, Jason. Jason, your comment on live betting and the improvement in the product, you know, a lot of those acquisitions, you know, tuck-in acquisitions that you have made have largely occurred within the last year. So just wondering, you know, kind of when you felt as though like you've got the live product at a point now where you can really start to accelerate and see growth from that. And then I have a follow-up after.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

I really think this past quarter was the first time I felt like, wow, I'm actually really seeing impact on the live side start to materialize in the way that we had planned. And it was exciting to see, and it's continued and actually accelerated into Q2 with MLB being up 36% year over year in live. So really excited to see that and still think there's a ton of upside, as I noted, but I think it's really just this last quarter we started to see those impacts. We knew the work that was being done before, but the actual impact and the numbers.

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Joe Stauff
Analyst, Susquehanna

Gotcha. Thank you. And then a follow-up on Jackpocket. In terms of the database, can you give us a rough split of the percentage of users in non-OSB states? And do you think you have a path in Texas for them to reconsider your offering there?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

So, I don't have an exact stat for you on percent of customers in non-OSB states, but they are certainly in quite a few of states that have OSB in them. And, you know, Texas obviously was not one of them. And as far as that question, you know, I don't know. You know, we'll have to see. There is certainly, you know, some momentum around legislation at one point, but I don't know if that's going to go through given, you know, the Senate in Texas will probably oppose it and And so, you know, I'm not sure what's going to happen there. But if it ends up that there is a stalemate in the legislature, then it would have to be through the courts. And right now we're not pursuing that. But one of the competitors, I believe lotto.com, is doing so and recently won an injunction. So, you know, that certainly signals there might be something. But I think early days and hard to know. And obviously we're watching closely and we'll make any decisions accordingly.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thanks a lot. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Robert Fishman with Moffitt Nathanson. Your line is open.

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Robert Fishman
Analyst, MoffettNathanson

Good morning. In the letter, you guys talk about beginning to realize efficiency as demand softens in areas such as advertising. So just curious if you can share any levels of the ad efficiencies you've seen to date and talk more about how you can benefit or how that's going to impact your planned advertising spend for the rest of the year.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So, you know, really where we're starting to see some is on the digital side. Haven't really seen anything on the offline side in terms of softening yet. And I think a lot of the places that are premium sport property are going to continue to command prices because of the scarcity of inventory. But on the digital side, we are definitely seeing some softening.

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Robert Fishman
Analyst, MoffettNathanson

Thank you. And maybe on taxes. clearly we saw Illinois increase and with Maryland set to increase. Can you just take a step back and share what you've learned about the right strategy to help mitigate future tax increases and how investors should think about the risk for additional states increasing taxes in the year ahead?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, I think what's unfortunately happening as states increase taxes is alternate options are gaining share. And so, you know, that's something that we're making sure people understand the illegal market is bigger than ever in terms of iGaming and, you know, obviously that's mostly in states that don't have legal iGaming, but those companies are going to create competitive offerings and push them in states that do have legal iGaming if taxes are too high. So, you know, that's something that we think certainly is resonating and then also You know, I think that there's an element of just making sure that they do understand that there is ultimately a cost to the consumer, whether it's weaker product, less promotion, things like that. So, you know, it's something that we're certainly cognizant is out there. We're operating in quite a few states now, so at any point in time, there's probably going to be some, you know, positive developments going on in any given states and some challenges, and we're just going to have to stay on top of everything.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

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Jed Kelly

Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just getting to live betting, if that becomes a larger percentage of your handle, would we expect that to handle or reaccelerate but be at a lower hold because you don't want to maximize your hold on live betting? And then Just looking at your R&D, it's up quite a bit. Is that being more deployed to product and development, or is that from acquisitions? Because we've noticed a huge product improvement in your MBA products, so any color there would be great. Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so on the latter question, some of the recent acquisitions that I noted are what that is being driven by, and I definitely appreciate the comments on the MBA. you know, a product that we worked hard on. And I'm really excited about our baseball product as well as our golf product. We have a lot of great updates that are coming through this summer as well. So I'm pretty pumped about where we're at from a product perspective. And then, you know, as far as the first question, I think it depends on the kind of live betting. If you're talking about micro bets, you know, next basket, next pitch, I do think you're correct that, you know, you don't want to hold too high on those. If you're talking about customers that are at halftime, you know, betting on what the end outcome of the game is, you know, that's fine to have them making parlays and having higher hold products. So I think it really depends, you know, but that's how we think about it.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Clark Lampin with BTIG. Your line is open.

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Clark Lampin
Analyst, BTIG

Thanks very much. Jason, I wanted to go back to the structural hold topic, and maybe you could help us understand or unpack, I guess, what sort of contributes or drives, you know, this quarter, I think you guys saw 300 basis points makeshift towards parlays. Is that, you know, largely a function of new cohorts that you're onboarding that are significantly more parlay inclined, or is it coming largely from... your existing player cohorts where you're able to gradually shift them over towards higher margin bets via retention promo? Or does one of those, I guess, sort of offer you a bigger opportunity or a bigger value driver down the road?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

It's really both. You know, we're seeing progress on both new customers coming in and immediately, you know, exhibiting behavior of Higher parlay mix but also existing customers increasing their parlay mix and parlay bedding So, you know definitely both but as far as going forward, I think same story both are going to be levers for us There's still a lot of room there. I believe and the great thing is that customers love the product. So it's very sticky so even if you have to utilize promo to try to get people to try it and you know here and there continue to promo just for pure engagement and we're seeing a lot of the customers that initially adopted parlay betting through promo continue to make parlays even when they're not getting promos. So that's really a great sign for us.

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Clark Lampin
Analyst, BTIG

That's helpful. And if I could ask a separate follow-up around AI, I'm curious how much, I guess, you've sort of integrated that tech into the pricing and risk management framework at this stage. You know, are you using that as a means of sort of better understanding elasticity or capturing inferences from sort of ticket flow on the fly that might be, I guess, a little bit less obvious to a human that was looking at the same data? Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

A little bit, but it is pretty early. I think that's actually a huge opportunity for us. I'm glad you mentioned it. We are still very early days in terms of implementing, but it's an area we've identified that we think there's a lot of opportunity for sure.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thanks again. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Steven. Your line is open. Thanks for taking my question.

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Steven
Analyst

Now that we're a few months into the launch of DraftKings Plus in New York, I was hoping you could comment on your initial learnings from that offering and if you anticipate maybe expanding that product into other states down the line.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. Yeah, so we had a very limited launch because we weren't sure if we were going to make changes to the product and didn't want to have a bunch of people sign up and have to do that. So as a result, it's taken a little longer to get the, excuse me, statistically significant results on some of the things that we were looking at. That said, so far, we've been very encouraged by what we've seen. It's been a very small user cohort, as I mentioned, by design, but it's been really a success amongst those customers. We've had really high satisfaction ratings from people. People are not canceling the subscription, and they're seeing value in it, and it's also generating value for us. So we are cautiously optimistic. It's something that we can do on a more broad basis, but We also, like I said, don't want to roll it out more broadly until we've done quite a bit of testing because we don't want to have to make changes to the program after we've gotten hundreds of thousands or even millions of customers to sign up for it.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Great. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Barry Jonas with True Securities. Your line is open.

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Barry Jonas
Analyst, True Securities

Hey, guys. Good morning. I appreciate the chart you made showing the historical resiliency of digital gaming amidst the Great Recession. But I guess as you look at the database today, are there certain segments or cohorts doing better than others worth highlighting? Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

No, not really. We've actually looked at that quite a bit. And we haven't seen anything to suggest that there's different cohorts, no matter how you slice it, that are performing differently. We've looked at it by state. We've looked at it by higher versus lower spend customers. We've looked at it by tenure. Quite a few different ways. We've looked at it by sport preference. And we really aren't seeing a big change in anything. Everything looks pretty much as we expect. So far, we're seeing no signs that there's any macroeconomic effects happening on our customer base. And as you noted, I think, you know, based on other data we've seen from third parties, it really has been a trend in gaming that you don't see actually much impact, if any at all, from any sort of recession or economic downturn.

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Barry Jonas
Analyst, True Securities

Great. And then just how are you thinking about capital allocation here, specifically share purchases? Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

You know, as we noted, we did repurchase, what was it, 140 million of shares in Q1. So definitely pleased that we were able to do that. And we have, as you also know, committed to a billion dollars as a buyback that's been authorized by the board. So that continues to be something that we're planning. But obviously, you know, if anything changes in terms of either that or additional buybacks, we'll certainly let you know.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ben Chahin with Mizuho. Your line is open.

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Ben Chahin
Analyst, Mizuho

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first is on external marketing spend. How are you thinking about the magnitude of this spend this year relative to maybe the start of the year? Has it changed at all? And I guess I would preface it with two dynamics as I see it. Number one, jack pocket. exiting Texas, and then number two, the softer digital ad spend environment that you referenced earlier. I guess, does the combination of those two change anything for you? I'm not sure if there's any other dynamics that you would flag or if I captured at all. Thanks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's a good question. So, you know, at this point, it's pretty much where we expected it to be. There's been, as you noted, a little bit of softening on the digital side, so we're certainly looking at opportunities to maybe you know, spend a little bit more there, but that is more than offset, or sorry, that is offset by the reduction that we see in Texas from jack pocket exiting. So it's kind of a wash, and we're sort of right on track with where we thought we'd be.

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Ben Chahin
Analyst, Mizuho

Sorry, maybe just to follow up there, I guess if it's softer digitalized, then wouldn't that be less expensive for you, and then wouldn't jack pocket exiting Texas? Go ahead.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Sorry, no, no. If it's softer, sometimes it's an opportunity to lean in a little bit more, right? Because you have a spend that wasn't efficient before that now is efficient.

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Ben Chahin
Analyst, Mizuho

Understood. Makes sense.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

If you were buying literally the same volume of ads, though, you're correct. But when the market softens, sometimes that's an opportunity to spend a little bit deeper. But like I said, these are low double-digit flexes either way. So it's kind of a rounding error, even if you didn't include either of them. We're pretty much right where we expected to be and expect that will be the trend for the rest of the year.

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Ben Chahin
Analyst, Mizuho

Understood. That's helpful. And then just one more on Jackpocket, I guess. What's the desire to integrate this into the DraftKings app? And then any updated thoughts on profitability? I think in the past there was some medium-term kind of bogeys out there you'd provided. Should we expect an update here at some point just given the changes in a few markets?

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

So on the first question, we're actually actively working on that. So I do expect it will be integrated sometime, I believe, in the back half of the year. And we'll have it fully on our platform, on our PAM. So that'll also hopefully help with conversion and other metrics on the wallet. As far as profitability goes, We said that it would be profitable this year. We do expect that it will be probably about break-even, maybe slightly up or down from profitability level, largely due to the Texas exit. So, you know, it's something that obviously we hope to get over the profit line, but also it's a growth asset, and we want to make sure we're properly investing in it, too. It's still growing very quickly, even with Texas. So I think a lot of opportunity on that front.

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Ben Chahin
Analyst, Mizuho

Thanks. Appreciate it.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the Q&A portion of today's conference. I would like to turn the call back over to Jason for any further remarks.

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Jason Robbins
Co-founder & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you all for joining us on today's call. We are really optimistic about the rest of 2025 and are well positioned for continued success in the future. Thank you for your continued support.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.

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