8x8 Inc

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

10/28/2020

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Operator
Good evening. My name is Simon, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the 8x8 Inc. Fiscal Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. I will now turn the call over to Victoria Hyde-Dunn, Head of Investor Relations.
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Simon
Thank you. Good afternoon and welcome to 8x8's second quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Vic Burma, Chief Executive Officer, and Samuel Wilson, Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, Vic will begin with business highlights of our second quarter performance. Following this, Sam will provide details on our financial results and guidance. After these prepared remarks, we look forward to taking your questions. Before we get started, just a reminder, our discussion today includes forward-looking statements about 8x8's future financial performance, as well as its business, product, and growth strategies, including the impact of COVID-19 pandemic. We caution you not to put undue reliance on these forward-looking statements as they involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to vary materially from the forward-looking statements as described in our risk factors in our reports filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements made on this call reflect our analysis as of today, and we have no plans or obligation to update them. In addition, some financial measures that will be discussed on this call, together with year-over-year comparisons in some cases, were not prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the closest comparable GAAP measures is provided with our earnings press release and PowerPoint presentation deck, which are available on our investor relations website. With that, let me turn the call over to Vic.
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Vic Burma
Thank you, Victoria. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I hope all of you and your loved ones are healthy and safe. we delivered a strong quarter across the board in Q2. As the only PurePlay integrated UCaaS, CCaaS, and CPaaS provider in the market today, customers are embracing and validating our integrated platform strategy. In fact, Platform customers who have at least two out of our three solution categories grew at twice the rate of the overall market and now represent nearly a third of the company's ARR. Our new voice from Microsoft Team Solutions sold tens of thousands of seats this quarter and is one of our fastest growing new products. We are accelerating acquisition of new logos as e-commerce delivers thousands of new customers per quarter. And our pipeline significantly expanded due to both record partner deal registrations and the strongest conversion ever from our digital channels. In summary, our go-to-market investments are achieving strong returns and our team executed exceptionally well. In parallel, we have also made significant strides unlocking operating leverage in the company. We achieved a third sequential quarter of improved profitability, exceeded top and bottom line guidance, and significantly reduced our non-GAAP pre-tax loss. Steadily improving execution resulted in lower customer acquisition costs, higher operating margins, and better cash management. And we surpassed expectations for migrating off our legacy customer base with more than 90% of our customer base now on the X-Series platform. Most importantly, we remain on track to achieve non-GAAP pre-tax breakeven exiting the fourth quarter and expect to be cash flow positive in the second half of fiscal 2022. Looking ahead, we have a clear line of sight to both profitability and continued growth. As a result, we are comfortable establishing full year guidance and raising our ending cash balance outlook for the fiscal year. Sam will cover more of the financial details later on the call, but he and the finance team have made a significant contribution in improving our operating margin, optimizing our investments and go-to-market, and strengthening our cash position. Let me focus my remaining remarks on highlights from the quarter, the three pillars of our platform strategy, and thoughts on the second half of the fiscal year. With regard to our second quarter business highlights, Our go-to market and channel-first strategy saw improved growth globally, particularly upmarket with mid-market and enterprise customers. We had a record quarter with mid-market and enterprise customers. We closed 48 new deals with ARR greater than $100,000, up from 30 deals a year ago. This includes 22 upsell and cross-sell deals, illustrating the effectiveness of our land and expand platform strategy. At the end of the quarter, we had a total of 670 customers with ARR greater than $100,000, a 25% year-over-year increase. We had a very strong quarter overall for our contact center portfolio, including a seven-figure total contract value, or TCV win, with a global recruiting leader that added more than 800 contact center seats. We also delivered several eight-figure TCV wins this quarter, including a significant international add-on order from a global logistics company that included 1,300 contact center seats and 13,000 voice for Microsoft Teams seats. Channel success is accelerating as our channel program drove nine of our top 10 deals and 59% of overall new bookings. We partnered with master agent Pax8, one of the top suppliers of Microsoft Teams to the MSP community. This is a significant move to drive further adoption of 8x8 voice for Microsoft Teams. Our CloudFuel VAR program continues to ramp with the number of VARs qualified to sell, implement, and support 8x8 after completing our exhaustive certification program. We added dozens of new VAR partners, including SpectroTel in the U.S. and OneCom in EMEA. In the U.K., Virgin Media Business closed several new wins with state, local, education, and special districts, also known as SLED. These included Ashfield District Council purchasing 400 UCAS seats plus voice for Microsoft Teams, and Avon and Wiltshire Mental Health NHS Trust purchasing over 3,000 bundled UCAS and CCAS seats. And we were very honored to receive both the Partner's Choice Award Top Overall Supplier for the second consecutive year from Intellisys and the International Vendor of the Year Award from Avon. In sum, We are seeing an acceleration in sales momentum and healthy pipeline coverage with growth across our domestic and international markets. Customers in key verticals such as healthcare, manufacturing, public sector, and financial services are choosing 8x8 X-Series for their cloud communication needs. Let me highlight a few notable wins. We continue to replace legacy Avaya on-premise systems, including a notable seven-figure TCV win with a global manufacturing enterprise. With operations in North America and Asia Pacific, this customer needed a tightly integrated cloud-based communication and contact center solution. This is a 2,000-plus-seat UCAS and 400-plus-seat contact center deal in which 8x8 was selected for expertise in global deployment and customer service. A marquee channel win and eight-figure TCV deal is with a large veterinary practice. They were using several disparate communication systems consolidate them into a single platform to help support disaster recovery and business resilience initiatives. We've won this 16,000 plus seed deal after a very competitive RFP with several other cloud providers. We see continued momentum in SLED as government agencies respond to ongoing COVID-19 impacts. A great example is with one of the largest NHS community health providers in England. APIEC replaced multiple legacy telephony solutions with our platform for patient-facing contact center agents and back office clinical experts across 200 locations. This seven-figure TCV deal with 4,000 plus bundled seats builds on a successful 250-seat contact center deployment earlier this spring. Lastly, In financial services, we secured a 7,000 plus feet upsell deal with a longstanding enterprise customer. They continue to turn to 8x8 as a trusted business partner for their global cloud communication and contact center solutions. Moving on to my second topic for discussion. As you know, our open communication platform is the only pure-play integrated technology platform in the market today that includes UCaaS, CCaaS, and CPaaS. We are seeing strong growth across each of these three pillars from customers that want the advantage of an integrated platform. First, we continue to see strong growth for UCaaS solutions with customers that want to modernize their telephony platform. Success with our UCaaS offerings has long been our core business, but recently growth has been powered by success with Microsoft Teams integration, e-commerce, and customers looking for UCaaS and CCaaS combination solutions. With voice from Microsoft Teams, we are seeing strong early adoption. From small businesses to large enterprises, customers are selecting 8byte's global cloud telephony solution that works natively across Microsoft Teams, mobile, web, and desktop applications. 8byte Voice for Microsoft Teams is an enhanced direct routing solution that connects to a customer's tenant on the Microsoft phone system, providing that customer with PSTN connectivity and global calling plans in 42 different countries worldwide. Our solution also integrates 8x8 contact center and third-party enterprise apps, including Salesforce. This quarter, we signed several hundred customers and sold tens of thousands of Voice for Microsoft Teams seats. A great example is with MSC Mediterranean Shipping Company, one of the world's leading container shipping companies, headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland. During our May earnings call, I spoke about MSC previously using 20 disparate global communication systems prior to selecting 8x8 for our integration with Microsoft Teams and global deployment expertise. After experiencing successful rollouts in Germany and the US, MSC expanded their global footprint to include approximately 17,000 UCaaS and CCaaS seats overall. Based on experience with similar customers, we believe that our global voice for Microsoft Teams solution is highly differentiated in the marketplace today. We have also seen accelerating demand for this solution with our channel partners in all geographies. Additionally, our e-commerce platform remains an exciting self-service entry point for small businesses and workgroups. We have nearly doubled e-commerce revenue every quarter since launch and continue to have thousands of new customers each quarter with our 8x8 Express and 8x8 Meet Pro solutions. We are now offering 8x8 Express to several of our channel partners as well as with new affiliates such as Wix. where small and new businesses can easily add UCaaS capabilities as they set up their web presence and purchase other small business services. E-commerce is a high-leverage, economically attractive way for us and our channel partners to bring large quantities of our customers onto the X-Series platform. Moving to our second solution pillar, CCaaS, we see strong acceleration in demand, particularly for bundled UCaaS, CCaaS deals. As businesses aggressively shift to operate anywhere, engage customers remotely, demand for cloud-based contact center has increased sharply. 70% of new bookings, 12,000K or more in ARR were from customers that selected bundled percent a year ago. Nine out of the top 10 deals were UCNCC bundle deals. Overall contact center new bookings grew 62 percent year over year and represented 32 percent of total new bookings this quarter. We saw more large contact center wins, as well as additional expansion of our base, embracing a combined UC and contact center approach to support work-from-home agents, outbound sales, help desk, and field employees. We also started rolling out 8x8 contact center version 9.12. Important updates include new and enhanced functionality, bringing together preview, progressive, and predictive dialing modes. This release helps our customers improve connection rates, maximize revenue opportunities, and meet evolving regulatory requirements in the US and UK. We also expanded our global reach capabilities with added support in Latin America, Europe, Africa, and Central and East Asia, providing an enterprise telephony solution for organizations in 42 countries across six continents. Our third solution pillar is CPaaS, where we have scaled globally with the expansion of our programmable applications and APIs to North America and EMEA. We achieved double-digit CPaaS revenue growth quarter-over-quarter and see signs of continued improvement in Southeast Asia. We nearly doubled the total number of deals closed quarter-over-quarter, including double-digit wins from the US and UK. New customers included transportation and logistics, retail and e-commerce businesses using our SMS, voice, video, or chat APIs. We are also seeing customers find new ways to add CPaaS to our open platform to extend communication and customer engagements to meet their unique business requirements. One example is a leading UK insurance broker that wanted to extend their X-Series UCAS and CCAS capabilities to further enhance the customer experience. They added our CPAS SMS notifications to provide information to new policyholders and alert existing customers about upcoming policy explorations. We are also seeing demand for real-time performance monitoring to ensure high-quality experiences as the number of virtual events, meetings, and work-from-home requirements continue to increase. CallStats, our WebRTC analytics service, is uniquely positioned to quickly provide administrators with those insights so they can easily address any network-related issues. We saw a record level of account sign-ups for our CallStats solution. We signed a new mobile carrier partnership with Telia for Europe to expand our SMS and voice network connectivity. We have a network of more than 160 carriers delivering coverage globally to enable businesses with our CPaaS solutions. Finally, we will shortly be announcing beta availability of Jitsi as a service, which will be the most reliable, secure, and scalable video meeting as a service solution in the market. Building on the Jitsi open source experience, this solution empowers developers to add and customize video meetings to their website and real-time contactless engagement applications in areas such as telehealth, education, and retail. We have several customers already leveraging the Jitsi as a Service APIs to self-host, embed, and manage video meetings to engage customers online and in mobile applications. We expect to make Jitsi as a Service generally available before the end of the calendar year. As we continue to explore the multiple growth opportunities afforded by our complete platform, we expanded the team throughout our organization marketing, product development, and customer success. During the second quarter, we also welcome Steve Seeger as Chief Revenue Officer. Steve has more than 20 years of experience in revenue leadership roles in prominent companies such as TIBCO Software, SAS, Xerox, and Oracle. He has deep experience in enterprise software and cloud technology, and we believe that he will be instrumental to our progression and growth. The final topic I'd like to discuss are observations for the second half of the year. We have demonstrated that the 8x8 open communication platform is fit for purpose as part of a customer's digital transformation to the cloud. We are uniquely positioned to meet customer demands with our global proven and scalable unified phone, video, messaging, contact center, and enterprise API platform. While the competitive landscape is always changing, the strategy of having a single platform solution has been validated by the market, which will ensure an ongoing source of value for 8x8. We are very pleased with our financial progress and are steadily unlocking operating leverage within the company. We have aligned resources and are investing in innovation and go-to-market initiatives that will provide tailwinds for the remainder of this fiscal year and beyond. A key component of continuing operational improvement and leverage has been our strong success with automating customer migrations. The migration of our legacy customer base is well ahead of plan, and we exceeded our goal of having more than 85% of our customer base on the X-Series platform by the end of the calendar year. In fact, over 90% of our customer base is now on the X-Series platform, up from 68% last quarter, above target and ahead of schedule. And we remain focused in substantially completing our legacy migration program by end of the fiscal year. We have already seen a reduction in churn rates, improved customer satisfaction scores, and a decrease in support costs from customers migrated to the X-Series platform. Most importantly, now that the majority of our logos are on the X-Series platform, it establishes a solid base for platform expansion and upsell. This is a significant accomplishment, and I'd like to thank the engineering and biz apps team for their outstanding work. With continued strength from channel partners, CPaaS rebounding and newer initiatives such as Voice for Microsoft Teams were only scratching the surface in penetrating a $60 billion legacy market with hundreds of millions of seats all up for grabs. In summary, we are seeing market validation of our platform strategy and steadily improving execution across the company reflected in our financial results. We have a clear line of sight to non-GAAP pre-tax breakeven exiting March 2021 with continued strong growth this fiscal year and beyond. I would like to thank all of our employees for their hard work and dedication in achieving these outcomes. I will now turn the call over to Sam.
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Victoria
Thanks, Vic, and good afternoon. We appreciate you joining us as we report the second quarter financial results. I want to echo Vic's comments that I hope you and your families are well and staying safe. For today's call, I will walk through our Q2 financial results and then provide guidance for the third quarter and full year. Lastly, we'll open the call to answer your questions. Starting with our second quarter results, we are pleased to have delivered performance that exceeded guidance, improved operating leverage, and reflects increased confidence in delivering profitability. overall results were driven by better than expected performance in ucas ccas and our bundle offerings total revenue for the quarter was 129.1 million dollars an increase of 18 year-over-year and above our 125.5 to 126.5 million dollar guidance total revenue was driven by better than expected results across the board Looking at our geographic mix, international revenue was 26% of total revenue, up 37% year-over-year, and the US was 74% of total revenue, an increase of 12% year-over-year. Our investments in expanding our global footprint continue to pay benefits. Looking specifically at service revenue, we generated $120.9 million, an increase of 19% year-over-year and above our $117.3 to $118.3 million guidance. Total ARR was $467 million at quarter's end, up 20% year-over-year, and from solid growth across UCAS, CCAS, and CPAS offerings. This growth was driven by our continued movement upmarket to larger enterprises, including winning several eight-figure TCV deals. Channel was also an essential driver behind increasing our reach into mid-market and enterprise customers. As Vic discussed, our strategic investment in Channel and product innovation over the last few years are delivering strong results, and our recent CPaaS expansion into the US and UK, as well as voice for Microsoft Teams, is promising. During the quarter, we lapped some large channel-led deals we closed last year and our July 2019 acquisition of WaveCell. As we previously discussed, these two dynamics did impact growth rates in various channel and customer metrics we provide on the IR metric sheet. These metrics will continue to change as we sign large enterprise deals with longer terms. Now moving down the P&L. Second quarter non-GAAP gross margin was 60.9%, driven by product mix and better than anticipated professional services revenue. Non-GAAP service revenue margin declined 90 basis points over the last quarter to 66.8%, primarily due to product mix. As we have previously mentioned, CPAS margins are significantly lower than UCAS and CCAS margins. Although overall sea pass usage significantly increased quarter over quarter, it was lower than expected as the second wave of COVID effects in Asia Pacific were felt. While the rebound has been slower than we initially hoped, we expect continued improvement into the December quarter. Non-GAAP other revenue margin came in at minus 27.7% for the quarter, a large improvement from the minus 58.9% a year ago and sequentially improved from the minus 34.7%. A key driver was our continued growth in our Flex hardware rental program. Flex revenue was up nearly 50% sequentially and has a positive influence on gross margin. We currently expect that overall gross margins will be slightly lower in the third quarter because of product mix. With increased CPAS usage as the world reopens, our UK and US business ramps and holiday-driven usage. Looking at Q2 operating expenses, we are delivering on our goal of aligning the global business to drive both improved execution and efficiency. Non-GAAP sales and marketing expense continued to improve to 41.3% of revenue in Q2, 2.1% lower than last quarter. The combination of leverage from our digital marketing, optimization of media spend, and moving from physical to online events has driven spending efficiencies. We have also added sales capacity and improved sales productivity. Non-GAAP R&D expenses came at 9.9% of revenue in Q2 versus 11.8% last quarter. We continue to prioritize investing in our differentiated technology platform advantage and completing the migration of legacy customers to X-Series. Non-GAAP G&A expenses improved to 11.5% of revenue in Q2 from 12.5% of revenue last quarter. We hope to gain further G&A advantage as we scale revenue and related operations. A total non-GAAP operating expenses were up 1% year over year, while total revenues grew 18% year over year, a clear sign we're making strong progress on our return to profitability. Operating margins were minus 1.8% for the quarter, the best we have seen since the fiscal third quarter of 2018. We believe we have clear line of sight to a return to non-GAAP pre-tax profitability exiting the March 2021 quarter and future cash generation. I would like to point out that due to the timing of certain expenses, each expense metric will not necessarily improve each quarter in a linear fashion. However, we have begun delivering returns and expect continued efficiency improvement trend in combined operating expenses as a percentage of revenue on a year-over-year basis. Importantly, our top of funnel metrics, including pipeline coverage rates, continue to be good, our growth rates remain relatively high, and our margin profile improved. These results show that we are harvesting the returns of our previous investments in demand generation and the channel. We expect to see further improvement in unity economics as we optimize our go-to-market motions. Our non-GAAP pre-tax loss was $3.3 million for the quarter ending September 30th. This was better than the $7.5 million guidance provided in July and the result of a combination of better than expected total revenue, margin improvement, more efficient customer acquisition, operational refinements, and the timing-related items such as reduced travel expenses offset by a currency headwind. We are assuming the timing events will not reoccur when we are giving guidance. I'm extremely pleased with how the team is being very diligent about each dollar spent. Turning to the balance sheet, total cash, restricted cash, and investments ended the second quarter at $175 million, with $15.6 million of restricted cash. Excluding restricted cash, the balance was $159.4 million. This is a decline of approximately $8 million quarter over quarter. Our three-quarter trend in cash usage was $48 million used in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020, 20 million dollars used in the first quarter of fiscal 2021 and eight million dollars used in the second quarter of fiscal 2021 super proud of the whole team we are focused on further reducing our cash burn through operational efficiencies economies of scale and improved collections collections continue to run ahead of expectations the operational improvements we have put in are paying off faster than expected Further, we believe the better-than-expected collections is a good sign that COVID-related risks are manageable. In terms of cash flow timing, in fiscal 2021, we decided to pay our corporate bonuses on a semiannual basis using a higher mix of cash than stock as compared to prior quarters, which will increase our cash usage in the third quarter. We then expect to see further improvement into the fourth quarter. Speaking of cash, last quarter we discussed our intent to have approximately $100 million or more in cash, cash equivalents, and investments on the balance sheet at fiscal year end. Given our better-than-expected financial and business performance, we are raising our expectation to over $135 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments, excluding restricted cash. We understand this is a large jump. As I said, the program improvements we have put in place are performing significantly better than expected. We are focused on being free cash flow positive in fiscal 2022, more likely in the second half of the year. One final item under liabilities I'd like to discuss is deferred revenue, which increased during the quarter to over $12 million. We have started our journey of moving towards building contracts in advance of service delivery and expect deferred revenue will continue to grow on the balance sheet. Additionally, we have started a number of operational programs focused on reducing the time between booking a deal and receiving the cash. One metric we are starting to get asked more about is remaining performance obligations, or RPO. Under U.S. GAAP accounting, we disclose this number in our SEC filings each quarter. Simply, RPO is the aggregate of deferred revenue and revenue backlog for our subscription services. For the second quarter, RPO was approximately $330 million, up from $290 million in the first quarter and $220 million in the year-ago period, or roughly 50% growth. Turning to our financial outlook, as we enter the third quarter, we have seen good sales funnel metrics, CPaaS usage rebounding, and new solutions such as voice for Microsoft Teams and meetings expanding our global footprint. Offsetting this is a blend of tougher comps from large deals closed last year, some revenue seasonality, and continued uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment as a result of the pandemic. Taking all this into account, we are establishing guidance for Q3 fiscal 2021 ending December 31, 2020 as follows. We anticipate total revenue to be in a range of $132 to $133 million, representing 11 to 12% year-over-year growth. We anticipate service revenue to be in a range of $124 to $125 million growth, representing 12 to 13% year-over-year growth. We anticipate non-GAAP pre-tax loss of approximately $3 million. We also feel more comfortable providing full-year guidance. First, some color on service revenue. As expected, growth rates in the second half of the year will come down as we lap the anniversary of the WaveCell acquisition and large channel-led deals won last year, which creates a tougher comp for the balance of the fiscal year. We expect a bottom in the growth rate in 3Q and an acceleration in 4Q. We continue to monitor the COVID-19 situation as it remains fluid, especially for the usage-based components of revenue. More importantly, our new service revenue full-year guidance is an increase to our prior color of 17% to 18%. looking at total revenue we expect to see continued customer engagement shift from desktop phones to flex hardware rental sales and 8x8 apps on mobile devices and laptops as work from home and work from anywhere continues to be the new norm we expect this slowdown in hardware sales to be reflected in other revenue and so we are establishing guidance for full year fiscal 2021 ending march 31 2021 as follows We anticipate total revenue to be in a range of 519 to $522 million, representing 16 to 17% year-over-year growth. We anticipate service revenue to be in a range of 489 to $492 million, representing 18 to 19% year-over-year growth. We anticipate non-GAAP pre-tax loss of approximately $16 million. As a reminder, this represents a significant improvement from the $59 million non-GAAP pre-tax loss witnessed in fiscal 20. And so with that, let me turn to my final topic and discuss our IR program. I've had an opportunity of speaking with many of our institutional shareholders and analysts to solicit their feedback. Based on this feedback, we are planning on making changes to the IR metric sheet. The goal is to more effectively report key performance drivers for our dynamic business model. We expect to discuss these changes in conjunction with fourth quarter results, and so we are providing ample notice. To wrap up, we remain well positioned to manage the business for the long term and are committed to accelerating our efforts to deliver better financial performance and enhance shareholder value. We feel confident in delivering on our financial outlook and have line of sight to profitability, positive cash flow and accelerating growth in fiscal 2022. I'm proud of our second quarter performance and would like to thank our customers and our partners for their continued commitment. Operator, we are ready to take questions.
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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, I'd like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Ryan McWilliams with Stevens Inc. Your line is open.
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Ryan McWilliams
Thanks for taking the question. Nice quarter. I like some of the changes to the cash collection. For Vic, you know, I thought the 48 new bookings over 100,000 ARR was telling of the recent pull forward in the upmarket adoption of cloud solutions. Can you talk about any further changes you've seen there for this mid-market enterprise purchasing since COVID? And are you seeing any changes here to deal cycles? Like, are you seeing a sense of urgency from these larger customers?
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Vic Burma
Yes, and actually what has been quite interesting is, as you can see, our combination deals where people are buying two out of our three solutions is significantly ramped up. It's 70% of our bookings greater than $12,000 in monthly recurring revenue. What we've also seen is this whole concept of land and expand where people may buy, for example, a contact center solution and then immediately follow up with our UCAS solution. And increasingly, they're starting to also buy our CPaaS solution to customize the end user experience. One of the interesting trends we also saw was some very large contact center deals. If you remember from my prepared remarks, we talked about a 1,300 contact center win and an 800 contact center win and several, I think, 400 contact center wins. And so you're just seeing this trend more and more towards large global enterprises selecting a communications platform, starting with either a unified communication or a contact center solution, and then adding the rest as time goes on.
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Ryan McWilliams
Perfect. And then on Microsoft Teams, It seemed like 8x8 was head of the game here, at least to my end. It seemed like you were one of the first to promote your team's direct routing integration this year. I know it's still early, but how has 8x8 Voice for Teams helped you engage with some larger enterprise customers that maybe 8x8 has engaged before? And have you seen any initial interest for these Teams customers to maybe add on contact centers?
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Vic Burma
Yeah, actually, more than initial interest, we've actually closed deals like that. What we are finding is Microsoft Teams pulled in a lot of 8x8 voice because we added the PSTN connectivity, and we did it essentially seamlessly so that from a user's perspective, this was a completely seamless experience. And then we saw a tendency for people to add on also our contact center. So we view this as a very fast-growing initiative for us, and we think we're very well positioned for it. Thanks for the questions.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Rich Valera with Needham. Your line is open.
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Needham
Hey, it's Chad TV Bond for Rich. Good progress on the X-Series migration. I'm just wondering what you guys have seen with respect to churn as you've shifted the space. Thank you.
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Victoria
Okay, so this is a question that comes up several times, so I'll just hit it head on. So it's not that we go to the customer and request that they migrate. We usually migrate them over the weekend. We let them know way in advance. And we see a lower churn rate on migrated customers and on X-series customers than on our legacy customers. And so we witnessed that again in the second quarter. We had lower churn rates overall compared to the first quarter. Not surprising, I think, given the ramifications of COVID and everything are starting to settle down. But in terms of migrations, we definitely continue to see the trend that migrated customers have a lower churn rate.
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Operator
The next question comes from the line of Michael Turin with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open. Michael Turin with Wells Fargo Securities. Go ahead. Your line is open.
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Michael Turin
oh sorry apologies those the double mute function apparently um thanks good afternoon appreciate you waiting there for a second um maybe to start off with from the highest level um you've talked in the past around the importance of owning the stack the messaging has since somewhat evolved towards single vendor open platform can you just help us understand what that means for customers and for partners and how you're positioning competitively given this move towards the more open platform approach
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Vic Burma
No, I don't think the message has evolved. It's all about owning the stack, and as part of owning the stack, we provide APIs so basically people can change the end user experience and customize for their various business needs. We think it's increasingly more important, and I think you're seeing that happen everywhere. If you look at the messaging, increasingly you're seeing people buy both contact center and unified communication together, and CPaaS becomes a way to integrate and change the end user experience. And then on top of that, because it's all part of one common stack, you have one common data layer, one common way of basically accessing all the various information, and a common user experience across the entire company. I view that as hugely differentiated, and particularly as we go into a compliance and security environment as well, having one integrated platform under one vendor's control we think is increasingly more and more important. The CPaaS function gives us the ability to then ensure you can add, for example, a video link or a SMS reach or something like that at the end user experience level and do it as still part of that one common platform.
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Michael Turin
Maybe one as a follow-up for Sam on guidance. I mean, you mentioned a few things in the script, but given the 19% services revenue growth, you just delivered and the 12 to 13% you're guiding for in Q3. Is there anything, any change to call out just in your approach to setting targets here versus the prior team? And maybe is there anything you can add just to help quantify what you mentioned there around the lapping of WaveCell and some of the deal activity you saw last year.
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Victoria
Thank you. Yeah, so we lapped WaveCell in Q2, so the 20% ARR growth, 19% service revenue growth is, you know, relatively clean from a lapping and all those kinds of things point of view. What I was trying to call out was, you know, last year's comp was, you know, a big, tough year. There was a big surge between Q2 and Q3. And so we're seeing a little bit of that drop in Q3's growth rate. But we did put the guidance out for the full year. And if you do some quick math, you'll realize that there's a reacceleration going into Q4. And then overall, we did take the service revenue growth expectation up from the year. Previously, we had 17% to 18%. Now we're saying 18% to 19%. So for the year overall, you're looking at something around 18% to 19%. And no change to sort of how we give guidance. We give guidance on what we think we can do. Helpful.
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Michael Turin
Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Matt VanVleet with VTIG. Your line is open.
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Matt VanVleet
Hi. How's it going? Thanks for taking the question. I guess looking at the channel momentum, still kind of outpacing the overall growth of the company and the mix of bookings remains quite high. The addition of new channel partners is pretty high, but I guess as we think about that and then the guidance for the next couple of quarters, you're talking about lapping some bigger deals, but you've brought a lot more partners into the network. I guess two-part question on that. What's potentially slowing down on the overall growth in the channel business, and how is that weighing on the total growth rate, especially for the third quarter? And then second, on some of these big announcements around the VAR models, maybe a little bit more than – kind of just reseller or I guess channel partners out there that are just kind of selling a bunch of business. How has that been a focus and how is the market changing around that dynamic?
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Victoria
Okay. I'm Sam. I'll take the first part of this one on some of the channel metric stuff, and I'm going to turn it over to Vic for the VAR second half part of the question. So what I was trying to highlight in my script was simply that the way the IR metric sheet works on bookings, it's really based on total contract value. And so if we book a very large deal or a five-year deal or whatever, it can create that concept of a tough comp. And so as we've been closing these larger and larger enterprise deals, I mean, you really see it in RPO, which is growing 50% year over year. You know, you can really see that we can start to have an effect where a comp or a big deal or a couple big deals in a given quarter can whipsaw that growth rate number. And I just wanted to make investors aware of that, right? I still think the purest, cleanest way to look at our company is looking at ARR growth. which was 20% last quarter. It encompasses our CPaaS business and encompasses all those pieces. The other thing I would highlight just on the channel piece is if you look, we're monetizing our investments. If you go back a little over two years ago, we had literally 127 active channel partners. You know, we've effectively grown that almost 10x. I think we put in the IR metric sheet 1,169 active channel partners, and we have a lot more room to go there. I think we have good traction and good momentum in the channel. We really like our channel partners. We really like where we stand, but we definitely have more room to run with that initiative. Vic?
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Vic Burma
Yeah, no, I'll echo that. I mean, 59% of our bookings was channel, and more importantly, we had across-the-board record bookings. The key point on VAR that is another one that is an important area is, as you know, we made a big push into VAR because we have this one integrated platform that and we built a partner portal which allows a VAR to essentially resell our products. And we made an investment base both with ScanSource and Virgin Media Business. Both pipelines are growing quite significantly, and we've closed deals on both of them. And Virgin Media Business in particular had two very large wins that I talked about. That speaks to the effectiveness of having that one platform because what it allows a VAR to do is to sell voice, video, contact center, plus APIs, all as part of an integrated bundle, and they can mix and match to their respective customers. And to a large degree, it addresses two of the areas which we see as significant opportunities of growth for us, which is we want to increase our distribution reach, and we want to improve our brand recognition. And our partners have a lot of brand recognition and a large install base and their ability to resell our products because we made it easy for them to do is a key part of our strategy.
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Matt VanVleet
Thanks. And maybe as a follow-up, we've seen a lot of success around the overall industry for obvious reasons, as demand has been pulled forward for a lot of companies. How do you feel like you're performing in competitive deals? Are you still needing to get more at-bats, or are you finding your way into most of the deals that you feel like you should be a part of right now?
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Vic Burma
No, actually, I'm feeling much better about demand generation, overall brand recognition, and overall performance. I think for us right now, what I'm seeing more and more of is we've been on a three-year journey when we have made major investments in our platform, major investments in our demand generation engine, our website infrastructure, our channel partners, and we're now starting to see all of that pay off, and we're also starting to see it in terms of the leverage that we're able to get. So we like where we are. It's all about execution.
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Matt VanVleet
All right, great. Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Medout Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
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Medout Marshall
Great, thanks. Sam, I wanted to ask you a question maybe first, just as you've been in the role a couple of months, you know, clearly you guys have talked about making the services organization more efficient or, you know, moving to kind of one generation of product that you have to maintain, but just are there other areas where you think there's opportunities for efficiencies within the business? And then maybe a second question for Vic, just, you know, where are you seeing success in kind of bringing some of CPaaS's higher margin products into kind of the sales opportunity versus just kind of SMS. Thanks.
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Victoria
All right, so I'll take the first one, Meta. I guess this is my defect as a CFO, but I believe in continuous improvement. So, yes, there are other areas we can improve on. There's areas that we've already improved on we can improve more on. You did highlight a couple of them, professional services, We're doing better, as I mentioned, in the margin and in the script. Flex hardware rentals saw nearly 50% growth quarter on quarter. Those are areas where it's kind of low-hanging fruit, and we'll continue on that. Monetizing the channel, monetizing our marketing investments are a key piece. Continuing to focus on cost structure, all those kinds of things. You know, we're really just focused on continuous improvement on each dollar that we spend. I hate to make it so simple, but it's really that simple.
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Vic Burma
Yeah, no, and I'll give Sam kudos, as well as the entire finance team. They've done a great job across the board. I think you saw it also in terms of how the team has executed in terms of overall margins improving, particularly professional services as well as other margins. You also saw bottom-line improvement. You've seen CAC improve steadily. So all of those trends are underway, and we're putting in all the – the efforts in place to make sure that there is continuous improvement across the board. The other part, I think, which you were talking about, which I think is exactly the strategy we've been on, which is this whole concept of an integrated platform. I think we talked about the fact that UCAS, CCAS represented approximately 70% of our bookings greater than 12,000 ARR, and that actually is growing significantly. twice at the market rate and now represents a third of the overall company ARR. So that's one part. The second is increasingly those customers then are asking us for CPaaS APIs so that they can change the end user experience. I gave you one example of a recruiting company which added CPaaS to go out and do a series of blasts to all of their various candidates who then click on it and then become part of a campaign which can then be talked to through our contact center. We are seeing a significant interest in our video offering, which is why we will be making Jazz Jitsi as a service available very shortly, where literally in minutes you can add a video meeting link to somebody's embedded application. That will then become available over on a general availability by end of this calendar year. So CPaaS we view as a great addition to our overall platform, and we're also seeing significant opportunities for margin improvement, particularly as we move into voice and video services for CPaaS.
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Medout Marshall
Great. Thanks. Thanks, Mattis.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Peter Levine with Evercore. Your line is open.
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Matt VanVleet
Great. Thank you for taking my questions and congrats on a good quarter. So as we think about revenue acceleration, you know, the go-to-market investments you made internally and towards expanding a part of the ecosystem, clearly you're gaining traction here. So looking at your pipelines, what's your confidence in your sales org being able to deliver on the last mile?
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Vic Burma
I mean, we brought on board a CRO who has a lot of confidence in Steve Seeger. The team overall is executing well. We've had, you know, our last quarter from a bookings perspective was very strong, and we continue to feel like there is a good opportunity to continue to improve from there. So it is all about execution for us. I like where we are at. I like the fact that the investments are finally starting to pay off, and I think now it's all about execution.
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Victoria
And I think all I'd add is the proof from the numbers, right? We just had a great quarter. We upsided service revenue, total revenue, margins, everything, right? So, yeah, we have extreme confidence that we can convert the pipeline into future revenue.
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Vic Burma
I will add one other thing, which I think is a team I want to also recognize, which is our e-commerce team. We introduced e-commerce, I think, literally a little over a year ago. They're adding thousands of logos a quarter, which means the low end of the market people can literally click on and have a fully functioning UCAS system right off the bat, as well as Meet Pro. And so that becomes a great on-ramp then to our overall X-series platform. So it also allows us to free up our sales team to focus on larger and larger deals, which has been part and parcel of our strategy over the years.
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Matt VanVleet
Great. And last question. I hope you get a little more color in your pipeline and environment throughout the quarter. And if you're seeing any changes in sales activity or changing conversation with customers here in the fourth quarter, now we have an election around the corner. COVID cases are spiking here and across the globe. So curious if all this uncertainty in the last couple months of the year is having any impact or if you're seeing any changes. Obviously, clear by your results and guidance you've given us. I would think not, but just any incremental color would be great.
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Vic Burma
Thank you. Last quarter, actually, one of the good things about last quarter was it was a very normal quarter with normal puts and takes, and it was business as usual. I'd like to see that continue.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Mike Lattimore with Northland Capital Management. Your line is open.
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Mike Lattimore
Great. Thanks. Interesting to see more and more eight-figure deals show up here. Good to see. In terms of, I guess, Vic, you just said it was sort of business as usual. I guess, does that go to bookings, kind of linearity as well? Did bookings sort of track what you expected by month?
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Victoria
Actually, I'll take this one. It was actually a little better than expected. So it was less back-end loaded than we normally have, and I think, as you see, the DSOs on the balance sheet are basically flat, right? So everything was kind of as expected. As Vic said, it was fine, and linearity was actually a little better than expected.
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Vic Burma
And then, Mike, going back to your comment about the first part, which is, as you know, we've been on this journey to move higher and higher up the stack in terms of mid-market enterprise deals but we also wanted to make sure we were able to service our small business customers in a very efficient manner our e-commerce has been adding thousands of logos at the lower end and then mid which frees up the sales team to go up to mid-market and enterprise deals and so you're seeing both ends of the deal being serviced and the fact of the matter is you have one platform which allows you to go from small deals all the way to enterprise-level deals, and you can mix and match. You've got voice, video chat, contact center, plus the APIs now through our CPaaS acquisitions. So that we've seen the land and expand portion of it also be a very significant growth driver going forward.
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Mike Lattimore
Great. And then on small business, anything, any change in churn in the small business category?
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Victoria
We've been migrating them. So as I mentioned earlier, you know, we're seeing lower churn rates on migrated customers. So the only thing is that churn was down in the second quarter. And you can see the cash, right? Cash is doing fantastic. It's better than we expected for the quarter. So our collections are really no problem.
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Ryan McWilliams
Great.
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Victoria
Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of James Breen with William Blair. Your line is open.
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James Breen
Thanks. Just wondering, you know, as you think about this quarter, what was the last, any changes you're seeing in the channel as those companies sort of adapt to what's happening, pandemic, et cetera, given sort of the potential resurgence we're seeing here on the COVID side. Just wondering how those, how the adoption's happening in the channel. Thanks.
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Vic Burma
No, I think we've enjoyed our interactions with the channel. As a matter of fact, I think our brand recognition within the channel has been going up quite significantly. We are also starting to see that channel has also adopted our e-commerce engine. So for their low-end deals, channel partners are now starting to put that on their website. So for small customers, they can actually go in and service them there. We are also doing these large, we call them blitz days, where channel partners and 8x8 folks go out and reach out to prospects all over the world, and that's been extremely well received. We're also starting to see much larger deals come from the channel. We've seen a lot of eight-figure TCV deals coming from the channel, which means the channel is starting to feel more and more comfortable that we are the partner of choice.
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James Breen
And with respect to just geographic dispersion, can you talk about where sales are coming from globally? And how does the banking business think?
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Victoria
Yeah, so if you look at our – I mentioned this in a few. If you look at our international business, it was up 37% year on year. So our previous investments that we've made in growing the channel, especially in the U.K., are really paying off. I mean, Vic mentioned Virgin. But in general, we are seeing stronger growth internationally than we are domestic U.S., but I don't want to downplay. We're seeing growth in both markets. Part of it is just the U.S. market is so much larger, it's harder to get a bigger growth rate number off of it.
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Vic
Great, thanks.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of City Pentegrati with Mizzou. Your line is open.
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Steve Seeger
Thanks for taking my question, and good to see progress in the business. I have a couple of questions. First, on Microsoft Teams, good to see this early success. You talked about tens of thousands of seats. So how do you characterize this success? Is it more in the U.S. or outside the U.S., certain geography, and also any particular segment between this small mid-size and large?
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Vic Burma
No, actually, it's global and it's broad-based. You've got small customers, you've got mid-market customers. I think we even talked about a 13,000-deal Microsoft Teams win. So, yeah, it's broad-based and it's global.
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Steve Seeger
Okay. And then we keep hearing, you know, pretty good positive feedback on your technology and platform, as you talked about, and you're making progress on the go-to-market side. Now that Steve joined us here, I'm wondering what sort of changes we should expect in a go-to-market initiative.
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Vic Burma
So I'm thrilled to have Steve Seeger on board. He's a former defensive end, and he has that kind of mentality. I think our team is a strong team. They're generally in place, and Steve brings that. We have brought everybody essentially under one roof, and Steve brings that intensity to kind of take it to that next level. We also see VAR being a very strong growth driver going forward, and e-commerce, as I indicated, allows us to go after the low end of the market in a very cost-efficient manner. So, as I said, I like where we are at. It's all about execution.
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Steve Seeger
All right.
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Victoria
Thank you. Thanks, Vic. Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Andrew King with Collier Securities. Your line is open.
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Andrew King
Hey there. Thanks for taking my question. Just one quick one. I've noticed that the migration has really accelerated past where we were originally expecting. I just wanted to get an idea if there are any factors outside of COVID that accelerated this migration past your expectations. Thanks.
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Vic Burma
I mean, look, the biggest factor is an awesome engineering and biz apps team. They found a way to completely automate the process. I think Sam alluded to it in the past where, in essence, what you do is they have found a way where you can take a customer that was on a legacy platform, literally map it over to a new platform, do all of the prep work beforehand, and then over a weekend, literally a switch gets flipped and the customer is now on the new platform and they are, other than the user interface, from their perspective, all the feature functionalities are very similar. It was a phenomenal teamwork, and they migrated tens of thousands of customers over the last couple of quarters, so that's a great accomplishment. We also believe some of the IP that they develop has opportunities for migrating other customers that may not be on a platform in the future, and the whole goal here is to make sure you automate that process.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Will Power with Baird. Your line is open.
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Vic
Hey, this is Charlie Relican for Will. Thanks for squeezing us in. I'll just ask one. I was hoping you could talk about your gross margins expectations, medium to long-term, you know, given a lot of moving pieces, contact center growing strongly, CPAS, you know, trend strong, and UCAS trends and video coming online too. So how should we think about that, putting that all together, gross margins?
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Victoria
Yeah. It's a super fair question, and I'd love to give you an incredibly articulate answer. There's really two moving pieces here. As our CPaaS business grows from a product mix perspective, that drives down gross margin. At the same time, as Flex and our professional services scale up, that's a positive influence to gross margin. So roughly we model it flat to slightly down. We think CPaaS has a little bit larger influence. And by slightly down, I mean tens of basis points, not full percentage basis points. That's generally how we think about it over the next, let's say, four quarters or so. And then after that, I'll have to reassess and give you an updated answer.
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Vic
Great. Thanks.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Keys with Summit Insights Group. Your line is open.
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Jonathan Keys
Great. Thanks for taking my questions. and congrats on a good quarter. I wanted to dig a little deeper in terms of the video. You know, in the past, you talked about, like, the number of users for the 8x8 Video Meetings Pro. I just want to try to get an update on that and also just try to get an understanding in terms of have you been using this as a lead-in for the UCAS, CCAS sales, or is this more have been a – upsell afterwards. You know, just kind of get a better understanding in terms of the interplay between that and the more established offerings that you have. Thanks.
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Vic Burma
Thanks, Jonathan. Yeah, no, video, as you know, we are still at several million users. The main point on video over the last quarter, as we talked about, has been how do you monetize that? and there's been three very good approaches number one increasingly it has become the on-ramp to both our 8x8 express as well as overall ucas ccas platform so that's worked extremely well for us the second and this has been essentially customer-led they increasingly like our video jitsi as a service as a way to embed into their own applications to add video capability. And so we've already got several pilot customers on that as well. We've also got a very robust open source community that is continuing to innovate on that. So for us, video has become increasingly a way where we, as part of our bundle, it's a differentiated offering. It's an on-ramp onto our X-Series platform. And Jitsi as a service allows us to monetize by putting in applets, essentially, into somebody else's larger app where they are able to literally do it in minutes. And developers are, we've got, as I said, indicated several beta customers on it already.
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Jonathan Keys
So you're going to keep Meetings Pro more as an on-ramp for now without a more monetized Gypsy as a service? That is correct.
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Operator
Okay.
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Jonathan Keys
Great. All right. Thanks.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Kuntz with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is open.
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Ryan Kuntz
Thanks for the question. Seems like a sizable piece of the UCAS 10 out there is in the carrier business line. I wonder how you view the carrier opportunities to sell them a white-label product, or do you prefer to really displace them typically with your own brand and your own channels?
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Victoria
Okay, so I would answer that question sort of two-pronged approach that we have. Number one is a lot of the carriers that traditionally have sold through VARs or have a large VAR component to it, so that's obviously our VAR program that Vic discussed earlier. The second one is with e-commerce and even with some exterior stuff in our APIs, we have the capabilities of white labeling, selling to, et cetera, you know, those discussions online. have occurred, are occurring, will occur. I don't want you to read anything into that. But we have the ability with, for example, Manager Express, we can white label it if that's what a carrier chooses, to use that as a self-service zero-touch on-ramp to UCAS and then progressively move up from there. I will tell you for sure carriers are super interested in the idea of self-service zero-touch no human being involvement type of stuff, and that's a lot of the activity we're seeing when we mentioned that we're starting to have the ability to move e-commerce into our channel.
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Vic Burma
And you can look at the example of Virgin Media Business. In essence, they're standardizing on our platform. They're going to their install base. They can sell UCAS. They can sell CCAS. They can sell CPAS. They can sell it for small business customers through our e-commerce offering. So we are increasingly seeing carriers as a route to market by them essentially co-labeling our products and or white-labeling our products because we believe our platform is hugely differentiated, comprehensive, and fully integrated. And from their perspective, it becomes a one-vendor way to go to market with multiple offerings. Thanks, Hans.
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Ryan Kuntz
Thanks, Vic.
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Andrew King
Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of George Sutton with Craig Hallam. Your line is open.
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George Sutton
Thank you. One interesting thing that I don't think has been addressed is the decision to pay more of your bonuses in cash versus stock, which I think is an interesting move. Can you talk about the logic behind that?
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Victoria
Yeah, I'll take that one. So look, when I became CFO back in May, June, I heard a lot of concerns about cash. I think with the latest numbers, we've really taken that off the table. We're talking about over $145 million in cash, not including restricted cash exiting in Q4. We're on the path to cash flow profitability. So it's time to start to turn our attention to things like stock-based compensation and those types of things to make sure that we're very shareholder-friendly in what we're trying to achieve, right? So It was really a function of the fact that we have cash. I don't know if you know this, but you're not earning much when your cash sits in your checking account these days. So it's better for us now to issue less stock at the values that our stock is trading at and just pay out our bonuses in cash.
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George Sutton
I'm well aware of the current interest rates, but I think it's an interesting move.
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Victoria
Thanks. Yep. We just do not have any concerns about cash balances right now, and I think it's just another way that we start to become more shareholder-friendly.
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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Q&A portion of today's call, as well as the conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may disconnect at this time. Thank you.
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