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spk15: Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's eight by eight fiscal first quarter conference call. My name is Amber and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keyboard at any time. I now have the pleasure of handing the conference over to Kate Patterson, head of investor relations. Kate, please proceed.
spk13: Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Today's agenda will include a review of our first quarter results with Dave Seitz, Chief Executive Officer, Sam Wilson, our Chief Financial Officer, and Hunter Middleton, our Chief Product Officer, who will give you an overview of our product strategy. Following our prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Before we get started, let me remind you that our discussion today includes forward-looking statements about our future financial performance including our increased focus on profitability and cash flow, as well as our business, products, and growth strategies. We caution you not to put undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, as they involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to vary materially from forward-looking statements, as described in our risk factors in our report filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements made on this call and in the presentation slides reflect our analysis as of today, and we have no plans or obligations to update them. Certain financial measures that will be discussed on this call, together with year-over-year comparisons in some cases, were not prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepting accounting principles or GAAP. A reconciliation of those non-GAAP measures to the closest comparable GAAP measures is provided in our earnings press release and earnings presentation slides, which are available on 8x8's investor relations website at investors.8x8.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Dave Seitz.
spk05: Thank you, Kate. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. On the call today, I will review our first quarter results and give an update on the integration of FUSE, which continues to go well. I will also discuss our plans for fiscal year 2023 as we place greater emphasis on profitability and cash flow generation in the near term. We believe that this is the right strategy to deliver value to all our stakeholders, customers, employees, and shareholders. We delivered another solid quarter with AR growth, non-gap profitability, and positive operating cash flow in the first quarter. Fuse continues to outperform our expectations with strong customer retention. We continue to advance our strategy of empowering every employee company-wide through integrated contact center and unified communication capabilities. and we are strengthening the foundation for sustainable growth in the future. The quality of our ARR continues to improve with the shift to Enterprise and XCAS. Enterprise ARR grew 54% year-over-year and now accounts for 59% of total ARR. XCAS ARR continues to grow at over 40% year-over-year and contributed more than 35% of total ARR. The sequential growth in XS ARR was very strong, and we see an opportunity to grow this materially over the next several years. Our CPaaS business declined sequentially and year-over-year and was an $8 million headwind to total and enterprise ARR growth. Our continued focus on operational efficiency resulted in higher gross profit with first quarter non-GAAP service revenue gross margins at another multi-year high of 73%. The improvement in gross margin resulted in sequential and year-over-year increases in non-GAAP profitability and operating cash flow. As a result, both non-GAAP operating income and operating cash flow were ahead of our expectations. As we look to the remainder of fiscal 2023 and beyond, we are committed to driving the operational efficiencies that will allow us to continue investing in core XCAS innovation and deliver increased profitability and cash flow over time. On our last call, we increased our operating margin guidance for fiscal year 23 to 2 to 3%, and said we had line of sight to doubling operating margin in fiscal year 24. This original range for operating margin reflected increased investment in R&D, as well as in the sales capacity and marketing programs needed to drive full-year service revenue growth in the mid-20% range. Over the last quarter, we've continued to evaluate our mix of investing for growth versus increasing profitability. We are prioritizing increased profitability and cash flow and moderating the growth of our investment in sales and marketing to reflect more cautious behavior by SMB and CPaaS customers. As Sam will discuss in greater detail, we're making changes now that will allow us to exit fiscal 2023 at or above 5% operating margin. Further, I believe we can achieve at least an additional 200 to 300 basis points in operating leverage in fiscal year 24. To achieve our fiscal year 23 target, we're holding operating expenses more or less flat as a percentage of revenue. throughout the year and allowing the improved unit economics reflected in our gross margin to flow to operating income. We are also reducing our annual guidance ranges for service and total revenue by $20 million and $30 million, respectfully, reflecting lower incremental investment in sales and marketing initiatives, as well as foreign exchange headwinds and continued weakness in CPAS. Let me provide a little more detail on our thinking behind our guidance. We address a huge market opportunity. Migrating telephony to the cloud offers organizations enormous benefits in terms of cost and flexibility, benefits that are likely to be even more compelling in a recessionary environment. Our opportunity is greater than just moving on-premise communications to the cloud. Digital transformation, an increasingly mobile workforce, and the need to offer hybrid work environment is blurring the boundaries between internal communications and contact center functionality. As the only fully owned unified cloud-based UC and contact center platform, we are uniquely positioned to capitalize on this opportunity by delivering advanced contact center features tailored to the needs of each user wherever needed in the organization. To fully realize this competitive advantage, we will continue to invest in our core XCAS offering with an emphasis on extending the team's experience, expanding global connectivity, and driving contact center innovation to enhance the end-to-end customer journey. As we add new innovations to enable today's modern workforce, we create the opportunity for greater revenue per user through cross-sell. I believe that our continued investment innovations like front desk, agent workspace, and conversation IQ is the best way we can build the foundation for sustained growth in the future. With investment in R&D critical to our future, we are making some trade-offs in the near term to build a better long-term future. As a result, we are moderating incremental investments in sales and marketing and, to a lesser extent, G&A initiatives. While I believe this is the right strategy for us given the current macro environment and our immediate priority of refinancing our convertible debt, it does have an impact on our capacity to drive incremental top-line growth. As we shift to a greater emphasis on profitability, we continue to make progress on XCAS adoption and grow our installed base with our enterprise customers. Our XCAS platform continues to be broadly deployed across a range of industry verticals and geographic regions, including the public sector. A few recent examples of new XCAS customers include Sciences. It is the leading specialty pharmacy in Europe, providing healthcare solutions to patients with long-term conditions, rare diseases, and cancer. They selected API at XCAS with nearly 300 CCAS seats as part of their digital transformation efforts to enhance the patient experience in the UK and Europe. Inception Fertility is a tech-enabled company improving the patient experience through an ecosystem of fertility brands. As North America's largest and fastest growing network of fertility clinics, Inception needed an agile communications partner that would support their growth and selected 8x8xCas to support over 1,600 employees across more than 80 sites. Cross-sell is becoming an even more important aspect of our XCAS strategy as our enterprise base expands. Our ability to expand the number of seats and average revenue per user within our installed base has the potential to be an important driver of sales efficiency and revenue growth. One of our significant land and expand wins in Q1 was T-force logistics. which is the leading same-day and next-day final-mile transportation solution provider in North America. After deploying 8x8 UCaaS with Voice for Microsoft Teams for over 1,000 employees in 76 locations across the U.S. and Canada, they expanded to XCaaS by adding Contact Center this quarter for a single-vendor cloud communication platform to help grow their business. Within the XCAS Solutions portfolio, our 8x8 Voice for Teams direct routing solution continues to gain momentum. We now have more than 200,000 users deployed. Customers choosing 8x8 Voice for Teams in Q1 included Brookfield Properties, which develops and operates real estate investments on behalf of Brookfield Asset Management, one of the largest alternative asset managers in the world. They selected 8x8 UCAS with voice for Microsoft Teams with over 2,300 seats due to ease of administration and Five Nines reliability. MotiveCare is a technology-enabled healthcare services company which provides a suite of integrated supportive care solutions for public and private payers and their patients. They selected 8x8 UCAS with 8x8 voice for Microsoft Teams for a seamless experience supporting over 2,000 employees across multiple locations. Our global reach, rich feature set, and tight integrations across UC and CC continue to be an important competitive differentiator with customers adopting Teams as their collaboration platform. To reach more of these customers, we recently launched the 8x8 Elevate Microsoft Partner Program and introduced an XT edition of Voice for Teams. The XT edition combines our direct routing technology, Azure-based managed SBC as a service, domestic DIDs, nationwide calling, HD audio, and secure voice all in a single package. Customers can easily upgrade or add seats with advanced functionality, including global calling, conversation IQ, or contact center. We continue to lead the market in global calling capabilities In the first quarter, we expanded global reach to include Israel, Taiwan, Latvia, and Slovenia. Our cloud-based global UCaaS solution is now available in 54 countries and territories, representing nearly 90% of global GDP. Today, about 30% of our users are outside North America. Our ability to reduce the cost and complexity of managing PSTN connectivity across multiple regions is another competitive advantage that becomes increasingly more important in a cost-conscious environment. A great example of a customer implementing XCAS on a global basis is GCP, a global provider of construction products that include high-performance specialty construction chemicals and building materials and continues to expand with 8x8 XCAS with over 2,300 seats in 22 countries spanning five continents, including providing full PSTN coverage to employees in China and the Philippines. XCAS also continues to gain traction in the public sector, where our ability to support customer engagement across the organization on a single platform creates a competitive advantage. Examples of public sector wins in Q1 include Cambridge Sure and Peterborough NHS Foundation Trust, which is a health and social care organization supporting nearly a million people in the community. They turn to 8x8, UCAS, and Voice from Microsoft Teams to support the employee experience for more than 2,000 users. Norfolk County Municipal Government supports 63,000 residents in southwestern Ontario, Canada. They selected 8x8 UCaaS with voice from Microsoft Teams for the simplified administration a cloud communication system provides. Finally, a brief comment on our CPaaS business. The large customers who reduced their CPaaS usage in Q4 have not yet returned to pre-Q4 usage. While we continue to work with them to design new programs, our guidance does not assume any usage revenue from these customers going forward. Although we expanded our user base with new customers in the quarter, the usage component of the CPaaS business continued to weaken in Q1 and impacted both our ARR metrics and service revenue growth. Despite this, we continue to add well-known names to our customer list, setting us up for long-term success when usage rebounds. These names include Daruma, Indonesia's number one B2B e-commerce platform for all things from office supplies to maintenance services, They use 8x8 SMS APIs to reliably send secure one-time passwords to their users. They also use 8x8's Chat Apps API for customer service over WhatsApp, providing their customers a convenient way to contact them. And Ketabeli, one of Indonesia's fastest growing social commerce apps, using 8x8's SMS and Chat Apps APIs recently added 8x8's voice IVR and voice messaging APIs to automate customer self-service workflows and user verification notifications. We continue to enhance the CPaaS platform, most recently with 8x8 Connect Automation Builder, a no-code, multiple-channel communications management solution for CPaaS. Automation Builder offers a visual, effortless, way for anyone, regardless of coding experience, to easily build engaging customer experiences that enhance productivity, flexibility, and efficiency. In summary, innovation has always been a core value at 8x8, and I'm proud to say our new innovations are gaining acceptance. 27% of new mid-market and enterprise customers have deployed Front Desk since its launch just two quarters ago. And 100% of new users have deployed our new UI in Agent Workspace since it launched in March. Our Voice for Teams offering surpassed 200,000 users, one of the fastest RAMs in our history. Innovation such as these leads to improved customer satisfaction and retention, which we see in the numbers. We have already made rapid progress on our XCAST product roadmap this year. Hunter Middleton, our Chief Product Officer, will give you some additional detail on our product strategy. Before handing the call over to Hunter, I do want to thank our teammates here at 8x8 for their hard work and commitment. I also want to welcome Susie Sindel, as our new Chief Accounting Officer. I remain confident in our opportunity, our competitive advantages, and our strategy. As we grow our enterprise and XCAS business, we're building the foundation for sustainable growth in revenue and cash flows, and we believe this will deliver value for all our stakeholders.
spk02: Thanks, Dave, and hello to the investment community. I'm joining today to give an update on our R&D investments and product strategy. As you already know, our R&D efforts saw an infusion of resources with the recent FUSE acquisition. Q1 FY23 was our first full quarter since the acquisition. And while early, we have been pleased with the R&D results so far. Overall output of the combined R&D team is already up 25% compared with Q4 of last fiscal year. And the investment in sustaining engineering for the FUSE platform and in upgrade automation to get customers to the combined XCAS platform are looking right on target. The integration of the development teams is fully complete. We have one 8x8 roadmap and a single platform that we're investing in. I'm personally very impressed by the quality of the few technical teams and I'm extremely proud of how everyone has come together. With this increase in innovation capacity, 8x8 has the ability to accelerate our delivery of differentiated services. A wide range of market segments find value in our services with the core target as a mid-sized enterprise organization using MS teams for internal collaboration and with a high-value customer base that demands engagement throughout the organization, not just in the contact center. Let me cover each of those points in turn. to share how we differentiate. With the move to cloud, mid-size enterprise organizations don't want to worry about maintaining their own in-house telephony expertise. Now more than ever, they are looking for a vendor that is a long-time cloud telephony and carrier expert, not a recent entrant. 8x8's best-in-class global cloud voice solution with a 5.9's reliable, full-featured, enterprise-ready voice and SMS service and the largest global footprint of any cloud vendor, continues to be the premium option for mid-size enterprise cloud telephony. This market is especially motivated by 8x8's ability to ensure a low-risk and low-drama move to cloud. Over the last two years, we have upgraded our entire customer base from our own legacy platform to our new XCAS platform while increasing our customer retention rate. We are now preparing to execute that same move with the FUSE customer base, and in the process, extending our import tooling and execution expertise even further. We know how to move a customer's deployment from one platform to another, and this expertise is critical to enabling the significant number of risk-averse late adopters to get to cloud. Some of the top investments we are making in this key area of differentiation include exceeding Five9's availability across the platform, expanding our global telephony footprint to add additional countries, and delivering even better import tooling to ensure seamless redeployment from on-prem to cloud. Almost every mid-size enterprise communicates through a contact center to its customers via voice, messaging, or other omni-channel methods. These organizations tend to be very ROI-focused and less experimental. They want high reliability, a great user experience to minimize training and operational expense, and core proven technology that is short time to ROI. 8x8 is very focused on deepening our value delivered in this large segment. We recently launched an impressive new agent experience with positive customer reviews. Typical of the customer comments we've had so far is this from National Express. 8x8 agent workspace was extremely easy for our agents to pick up right from the start. An incredibly straightforward, self-explanatory, and easy-to-use interface that really helped enhance their overall experience for aiding the delivery of better customer outcomes. We are continuing this coming year with several additional major launches. A superior digital conversational AI solution. A completely revamped team lead experience. with user management, team reporting, and quality management capabilities all in one UI. Furthermore, we're going to do enhancements to our agent workspace to further improve usability for digital use cases and better integration with the customer CRM. We have our user research and design teams dialed in on this customer profile and are making sure that everything we deliver scores high on usability and provides a complete end-to-end use case fine-tuned to the needs of this segment. A significant portion of mid-sized enterprise organizations today are opting to use MS Teams for meetings and internal messaging. The 8x8x CAS solution is incredibly MS Teams friendly, designed to enable customers to easily mix our external communication solutions with the native MS Teams internal collaboration service. Our integration is easily adaptable to the diverse ways that companies choose to operate with MS Teams, from having 8x8 voice and SMS fully embedded in the MS Teams app to enabling mix and match with users adopting the service that makes the most sense for themselves while maintaining effective interoperability with users on each platform. We are very happy to trade the sale of an increasingly commoditized meeting service for the higher value sale of our native contact center and customer engagement capabilities. A recent Baird study found that 8x8's MS Teams integration is preferred 4 to 1 over our UC competitors, and we will continue our investment to maintain leadership in this area. For a while now, Dave and Sam have been talking about the success of our XCAS product strategy. While almost all enterprise organizations find value in one platform, single vendor solution, our XCAS differentiation goes well beyond simply selling integrated but distinct UC and CC solutions on a single contract. 8x8 is uniquely able to break down the walls between UC and CC solutions and can deliver traditional contact center engagement capabilities wherever they are needed in the org. focusing on three primary avenues for creating value for our customers. First, every new contact center capability gets built at a platform level so that we can also deliver it to any user or team throughout the organization. Second, we're designing dedicated app experiences that bring UC and CC functionality together in purpose-built configurable UI for key customer engagement personas. And third, we're investing in the data infrastructure and analytics that enables visualization and insights on the end-to-end customer journey so that companies can really see what's going on. I know that all sounds a bit Silicon Valley, so let me discuss two recent launches that make this product approach more tangible. 8x8 recently extended the availability of Conversation IQ, our quality management and speech analytics service, to any user throughout the organization. This product is typically considered to be a contact center capability. AI speech analytics that looks at individual interaction transcripts to identify coachable moments and topic trends and then feed those into a coaching application for the team lead. You can now apply the capabilities as a premium add-on service to any user in the organization. For instance, we have recruiting agencies that use it to monitor and coach individual recruiters on the effectiveness of their phone screens. Reception teams that use it to verify adherence to the right greeting script on the right inbound number. And billing support teams that need to assess customer satisfaction with their agent experience just as if they were sitting in a contact center. This is how XCAS delivers customer engagement functionality throughout the org. Another example, the first of our premium app experiences was FrontDesk, our new attendant console that was released in the middle of last year. Receptionists need more than just a phone, but less than a full omni-channel contact center seat. FrontDesk combines core UC call handling and a highly usable company directory with the extensive multi-user voice cues familiar in the contact center space. And all of this is composed in a single-screen UI that ensures the user doesn't have to hop around different components to get their job done. Gone from the screen, but available a click away when needed, our company chat and meetings that our research shows are rarely used by this persona during the workday. Seats for these app experiences sell at a premium to traditional UC application licenses, while still being more affordable to the customer than a full contact center license and they're simpler to deploy. Our data shows that adoption of front desk among our new enterprise logos is already over 27%. Looking forward to some of the highlights in the coming year on our XCAS roadmap, our new digital conversation AI capabilities will provide customer self-service options across the entire organization. Our customer journey analytics are being enhanced to deliver more insight into interactions that span UC and CC nodes. And the new team lead experience will work equally effectively for customer engagement teams outside the contact center as it does for those that are in the contact center. We are also actively working on additional premium app experiences that target key customer engagement roles throughout the company, and we'll share more about that in future calls. Thank you for your time today, and I'll be on the line for Q&A if you have any questions. Sam?
spk17: Thanks, Hunter, and good afternoon. We remained a financial agile and disciplined organization and delivered solid results for the quarter. We continue to experience some challenges in our CPaaS business during the first quarter, and foreign currency headwinds were strong, both of which impacted service revenue performance and will make us adjust fiscal 23 guidance. In spite of these challenges, Revenue was near the high end of our guidance range, and we continued to post broad improvements in gross margin, delivered solid operating income, and another quarter of positive cash from operations. Total revenue for the quarter was $187.6 million, an increase of 26% year over year, and inside of our 185 to $188 million guidance range. We generated $179.2 million and service revenue an increase of 30% year-over-year and in line with our $177 to $180 million guidance range. The CPAS business did not bounce back as hoped, with a year-over-year and sequential decline for the second quarter in a row. The strengthening dollar especially versus the pound sterling negatively impacted revenue by about $1.5 million. FUSE accounted for $29.3 million of service revenue and $29.5 million of total revenue. Service revenue from FUSE was better than expected, driven by higher retention. On a whole, FUSE did better than expected in both revenue and costs, and therefore was accretive to non-GAAP operating income. We committed to remaining non-GAAP profitable post-acquisition, and so far, so good. We expect further cost savings opportunities as we continue to integrate FUSE operations with our own, but these will take time to achieve as we communicated at the time of the acquisition. Total ARR was $688 million a quarter's end of 28% year-over-year. As we stated in our prior earnings calls, we will not be breaking out FUSE from 8x8 separately for ARR reporting, but we'll continue to give visibility into FUSE contribution to reported revenue. Enterprise customers now account for 59% of total ARR, and enterprise ARR was up 54% year-over-year. Mid-market was 18% of ARR and grew 22% year-over-year. And small business was down to 23% of ARR and declined 7% year-over-year. Growing our enterprise business is one of the core tenets of our long-term strategy due to these customers' longer commitments, higher retention, and better efficiency ratios. A comment about the SB segment declining 7% year-over-year. Small business is non-strategic for us because of the low efficiency metrics and the absence of contact center needs. We expect it will continue to shrink as a percentage of total ARR. I would like to call out to investors, we made a change to last quarter's number of enterprise customers, lowering the total from 1,320 to 1,258. When we integrated FEWS into the reporting, we inadvertently included both subsidiaries and parent purchasing centers. This has been corrected. Turning to expenses, a reminder that all expense items disclosed are non-GAAP unless otherwise noted. Service revenue gross margin came in at 73.4 percent, an increase of 450 basis points from the first quarter fiscal 22 and 100 basis points sequentially driven by continued COGS improvement programs, which drove down unit costs and, to a lesser extent, lower CPAS revenue. Other revenue gross margin came in at minus 35.3 percent for the quarter, compared with negative 19.6 percent in the first quarter of 22 and negative 44.6 percent in the fourth quarter of 22. Looking forward, we hope to see improvement in other margin over time as we further integrate FUSE. Overall, first quarter gross margin was 68.5 percent, up nearly 600 basis points year-over-year and 180 basis points sequentially. The increase was driven by revenue growth, a higher mix of service revenue, and our gross margin improvement projects. Turning to first quarter operating expenses, this is our second combined quarter with FUSE and our first full quarter of expenses. R&D stepped up to 14.2 percent of revenue getting closer to where we wanted. There were several unusual one-time items that increased operating income by $3 million. Non-GAAP operating profit grew nearly $6 million quarter over quarter to $10.1 million. On a normalized basis, operating income would have been about $7.1 million, still up nicely quarter on quarter and year on year. Without the benefit of the unusual items, plus the full impact of employee annual base pay increases, we expect a sequential increase in total expenses in the second quarter, resulting in a small decrease in the operating margin on a normalized basis. Consistent with our goal of driving financial leverage, we expect to see improvements in operating margin in the second half of the fiscal year and want to exit the year at 5% or better. Turning to the balance sheet. Total cash, restricted cash, and investments ended the first quarter at approximately $143 million compared to approximately $148 million last quarter and $162 million a year ago. Excluding restricted cash, the balance was $141.6 million compared to $138.7 million last quarter. RPO was approximately $700 million for the quarter, down from $715 million in the fourth quarter. The quarter-on-quarter decline was driven mainly by a small shortening of remaining contract duration. Given the market environment, this was not a surprise. Cash from operations came in at approximately $5.8 million for the quarter ahead of our expectations. We continue to actively manage cash flow and watch it closely, and collections remains solid. We expect to see a larger than usual difference between operating income and cash from operations over the next few quarters. We have several FUSE-related items that will use some cash but will not be a non-GAAP income statement. Recently, we received a number of questions about our $500 million in convertible notes due February 2024 or 18 months out. We are now in the normal window for refinancing, and as a non-GAAP, profitable, cashflow-positive company, we have multiple options to refinance. We are going through the process of evaluating the alternatives to arrive on a refinancing strategy that is best for all stakeholders. I remain confident we can refinance our debt this year. Last quarter, we made the comment that we were shifting to a greater emphasis on improving profitability and cash flow versus driving higher revenue growth. We have continued to evaluate our mix as the selling environment has become incrementally more cautious. with CIOs and CFOs being slower to make decisions. We spent the quarter analyzing the situation and believe it makes sense to continue to pivot to our profits plus growth strategy. As such, we are taking down our revenue guidance for fiscal 23, but raising our operating income guidance. The decline in revenue growth rate was driven by three major factors. One, we are moderating growth in sales and marketing investments to focus on improving efficiency and margins. Two, the impact of the stronger dollar, particularly the British pound to US dollar, which is suppressing revenue. And three, continued weakness in CPAS. As a reminder, we generate about one-third of our revenue internationally. We remain focused on improving gross margins, but these can be variable quarter to quarter based on product mix. For operating expenses, we plan to significantly slow the growth in sales and marketing spend, and would like to see us exit fiscal 23 between 38% and 39% of revenue, down from 41% two quarters ago. We plan to focus our R&D efforts on our core product offerings and expect R&D as a percentage of revenue to remain in a range of 13% to 15%. Innovation is key for any software company, and for us, with a multibillion-dollar market opportunity, even more so. We believe continued investment in our customer-focused product strategy, as described by Hunter, with an emphasis on contact center functionality has good ROI. Lastly, we expect to see continued leverage in G&A as a percentage of revenue as we fully integrate the FUSE operations. This set of initiatives will drive operating margin higher in the second half of 23, and we expect to exit 23 in an operating margin above 5%. This brings our operating margin for the year to about 4%, give or take. As Dave mentioned, we think we can add more operating margin in fiscal 24 next year, through continued improvement in unit economics, incremental savings, infused G&A as the integration progresses, and improved sales efficiency. While we expect the increased emphasis on profitability and cash flow to have an impact on our top-line growth in the near term, it gives us more flexibility to refinance our debt and further options to drive shareholder value in the future. With this in mind, we are taking into account the recent performance of the CPAS business and FX, We are establishing guidance for the second quarter of fiscal 23 and September 30, 2022, as follows. We anticipate service revenue to be in a range of $177 to $180 million, essentially flat with the first quarter, representing approximately 24 to 26% year-over-year growth. We expect FUSE service revenue contribution will be between $27 and $29 million. We anticipate total revenue to be in a range of $185 to $188 million, approximately 22% to 24% year-over-year growth. We have uncertain visibility on the supply chain and plant harbor shipments, but for now expect other revenue to be flat to down slightly compared with the first quarter. We are targeting an operating margin in the 2.5% to 3% range for the quarter. The sequential decline from approximately 3.8% in Q1 on a normalized basis is primarily due to the annual pay increases implemented in June. We are updating our guidance for fiscal 23 ended March 31st, 2023 as follows. We anticipate service revenue to be in a range of 720 to $730 million, representing approximately 20 to 21% year-over-year growth. We expect to exit fiscal 23 with service revenue growth in the mid to high single digits on a year-over-year basis. We anticipate total revenue to be in a range of $747.5 to $762.5 million, representing approximately 17 to 19% year-over-year growth. We are focused on improving operating margin over time and have a goal of exiting fiscal 23 over 5% for the fourth quarter and at least 4% for the year. In closing, I believe the increased focus on our operating margin and cash flow are exactly the right strategy at this time. I believe we need to continue to fund our investment in R&D. We address a large market opportunity, and the focused product strategy Hunter outlined leverages our unique advantages of a unified platform, global connectivity, and leading teams integration. As we extend these advantages and deliver superior ROI to our customers, we reinforce our strong financial foundation and remain an agile organization. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Q&A.
spk15: Thank you. We will now begin the Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by 2. Again, to ask a question, that's star 1. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, Please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. We will pause here briefly as questions are registered. Our first question comes from Suti Pangarari with Mizuho. Suti, your line is now open.
spk12: Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to ask about your plan to reduce your guidance for the fiscal year. You didn't talk about the demand environment or any kind of macro slowdown. Wondering what are you seeing in the market right now or appreciate. Also, what's triggered this lowering sales and marketing spend after Q1?
spk05: Yeah, on the demand side, our enterprise customers were not seeing any material impact. We have seen some impact on small business and our CPAS customers. We do have, in a few cases, customers performing additional due diligence and a slight decline in average contract length. That may reflect some caution, but it's not a clear sign. But overall, not a major signal is coming from our enterprise business.
spk17: All right, and I'll take the second part of that. We're moderating our sales and marketing spending growth, and I think that's just driven by the fact that we are continuing to focus on sales efficiency and ROIC, and we just want to be careful that we continue to drive up the ROIC, and we're also setting the stage for debt refinancing later in the year. So I think just all those things combined just make it so we moderate our sales and marketing growth a little bit this year.
spk12: Okay, and then a quick follow-up to Microsoft Teams. Where do you see, you know, the competition at this point? Where do the Microsoft Teams, Telephony offering, where it is and what's Microsoft strategy? How do you plan to compete in our next few years with their offering, especially in a pricing is so competitive?
spk05: Yeah, on Microsoft Teams, there is a platform approach to enable telephony into Microsoft Teams, both through Direct Connect and Operator Connect, in addition to calling plans. We really see Direct Connect, Operator Connect as the big opportunities. We're a top player in Direct Connect, and we've added over a couple hundred thousand users there We see that as a big opportunity to make that even significantly larger. That's why we launched the Elevate program focused on Microsoft partners and our XT SKU that will fit nicely into the team's offering. And so, you know, I'd like to see us 10x those users over the next couple of years.
spk18: Great. Thank you.
spk14: Thank you.
spk15: Our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams with Barclays. Ryan, your line is now open.
spk06: Perfect. Thanks for taking the question. Just to follow up on the Microsoft Teams side, another 50,000 seats added to the 8x8 Voice for Teams. Are you seeing good success here in upselling Cloud Contact Center into these Microsoft opportunities?
spk05: Yeah, we're seeing good success with XCAS, which is both contact center and UC, and that's a specialty of our platform. The XT SKU does fit into our X series, as well as our X1 and X2 and X3 SKUs. So those are all UC SKUs. We sell X6, X7, X8, our contact center SKUs, and those do sell nicely. We did see XCAS... ARR continued to grow at over 40% year-over-year, and it's 35% of our installed base. So it's a creating share within our business, and the goal is to push that up into a majority of our business.
spk06: Excellent. And Sam, just on the guide, I guess, how do you think about where conservatism is here? Is it in the next quarter or more towards the end of this year from the top-line perspective? Just because Now, if I add like 189 through each quarter, that kind of gets you to the midpoint of your guide, but then you would exit the year kind of mid-single digits revenue growth. So is it more near-term or towards the end of this year? And then if you could just double-click on what your thoughts are on maybe some of that CPAS traffic coming back, what the outlook looks like there. I appreciate that. Thanks.
spk17: All right. So in terms of conservatism or just visibility, I guess I'll just use a more generic term, I mean, like all companies, we have more visibility the quarter we're in. And then, you know, progressively over time, the visibility gets less and we naturally get more conservative. We bottoms up forecast. And so that's what drives that. We did further de-risk the CPaaS model because it was down quarter on quarter. So incrementally, that business got a little worse. And as everyone knows, we sort of take the exit run rate of that business and run it flat in perpetuity. And then that's kind of how we think about it for those customers. Then we layer in new customers on top of that. And so... I would say, you know, definitely more conservative. I think I did say in my script that exit the year kind of mid to high single digit growth, you know, once we lap the FUSE numbers. And then just in general, your question on CPaaS, you know, I would say incrementally environments got a little harder. I don't know the exact if it's macroeconomic or just specific customer things, et cetera. It's always harder for us to tell in a usage-based business. We're not seeing substantially more customers go to zero, so I don't think the traffic's moving. We're just seeing less total aggregate traffic.
spk14: Thank you. Next question, please.
spk15: Our next question comes from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Meta, your line is now open.
spk00: Great. Thanks. A couple of questions. You know, Sam, when you kind of mentioned the mid to high single-digit services growth rate exiting fiscal 23, you know, how do you think that that compares to the overall market growth? Do you think you'll be kind of sustaining share at those growth rates? And then on the second question, you know, just as you kind of get focused on operational efficiency and, you know, get a little bit more conservative on your spend on sales and marketing, You know, what opportunities do you think you're foregoing? Does that, basically just trying to see, does that impact the enterprise or SMB business more? Thanks.
spk17: All right. I think I'll take both of these and let Dave chime in. So on the mid to high, and remember, you know, we're in a bit of a transition here, right? So we've talked about this in the past. So our small business is coming down. That's a headwind. While our enterprise is growing relatively quickly and the quality, we believe, of our over ARR pool is improving. And so we would expect that we'd be exit the year with a higher growth rate in enterprise and then offset by a slow growth rate, take it for whatever that means, in the small business side. Relative to the market, look, the last industry numbers I saw is the market overall is on the UC side is growing at around 10% plus minus. So I think plus minus, we're in that ballpark. I think we're growing fast. We're gaining share on the enterprise side, particularly relative to the on-prem vendors. And on the small business side where it's less strategic and it's got a host of other issues, you know, we may be just treading water in that general area. In terms of improving efficiency and foregoing some things, I think you look, that's a great question, Matt. It's a constant conversation we're having. I think sometimes you have to forego some opportunities to invest in new opportunities. What you see very clearly and one of the prime reasons we wanted Hunter on the call this time is was the place we are really pushing the envelope is innovation. So if you think about it, we've now increased our R&D spending to 14% to 15%, which is what we talked about in our intermediate and long-term model we wanted to be at. So where we are pushing is on the innovation side. To fund that and meet our corporate financial objectives, we're pulling back a little on sales and marketing. Once we get through that R&D cycle, we'll look to reinvest in sales and marketing. But right now, I think the place to invest is definitely in innovation, and you see that coming through on the financial model. Great. Thank you so much.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Van Vliet with ETIG. Matt, your line is now open.
spk10: Yeah, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. I guess, can you give us an update on where we're at with the FUSE integration in terms of not just migrating customers to the overall xCLASS platform, but also what you're seeing in terms of attach rates and upsell on the contact center? I know you highlighted that as a big opportunity when you close the deal. Thanks.
spk17: All right. So Matt Van Fleet at BTIG. I'll take that part of the equation. All right. So look, I would say in terms of the back office operations, we're effectively integrated now with Fuse. You can't really tell the difference. And I would love R&D, I'll say, is a separate case. And if Hunter, you want to throw a few words in, please do. But in terms of Fuse and R&D, we're fully integrated now. You can't tell the fused teams from the non-fused teams and where that, I don't know if you want to add anything.
spk02: No, I think that's exactly right, Sam. We've fully integrated the development teams. We're working on a single roadmap. The innovation is focused on a single platform going forward. So that integration has gone really smoothly. We're really excited about the team that has come on board and everybody's working great together.
spk17: All right, specifically on migration and cross-sell, you know, we've always sort of hinted that this is a fiscal 24 type of initiative. And so we still think that, I mean, remember the average, You know, we've only had this company six months. The average sales cycle is a year generally for that type of stuff. And so we're focusing on that. And also it takes time to get the automation of those other things. And we're not pushing Fuse customers to migrate. We'll get there over time, but right now we want them to get comfortable with us. We want to make comfortable through the transaction. And if you notice just point blank, the Fuse revenue numbers have actually been substantially better than we even hoped for. And I think our strategy is really showing through in the numbers of, of really trying to baby these customers, keep them engaged, keep in front of them and not push them too aggressively. We'll get there and get them migrated over, you know, really starting next year as we make it super easy for them, et cetera. The cross-selling activities are occurring. We're having things like webinars, marketing campaigns, lot of interest from the fuse base. That's just going through now our normal sales cycle.
spk10: All right, very helpful. And then as you ramp up the channel to help further sell into the teams in the broader Microsoft ecosystem, how should we think about the contribution rate or the profitability of the Elevate program relative to your more traditional partnerships and channel partnerships selling XCAS? Is there any meaningful difference there? Can the volumes of a team's organization often offset a little bit lower pricing.
spk05: Yeah, I think economically the volumes are significant in that market and the Elevate program is focused on people that have traditionally been Microsoft resellers and not necessarily cloud telephony resellers. So it's bringing an incremental group into the fold. And as far as How we go to market, you're right, it's higher volumes in that category with Teams add-ons. And we make it up through additional contact center sales into that install base in our XCAS selling. So overall, when you look at the revenue per account, it's large, larger than average, and creates that opportunity for the partners as well as our sellers.
spk10: All right, great. Thank you.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Levine with Evercore. Peter, your line is now open.
spk09: Great. Thank you for taking my questions. Also, thanks for the color on the convert. Maybe, Sam, can you kind of talk through what some of the options are at the table that you have now and how you're thinking about it? And then just to confirm, you'll
spk17: probably convert the convert before it becomes a current liability what is that kind of um is that how you think about it well i did say this year so i you could take it as calendar fiscal whichever one suits my needs in the moment um but you know this year we'll we'll get it taken care of and and it would become a current liability with uh at the end of this fiscal year Um, and yes, that would be our objective to do that in terms of options. We've got term loan capabilities. We've got exchange capabilities. We've got equity capabilities. I mean, it's pretty amazing at how much, how many different options there are. I mean, 20 years ago when I first was first on the street for a company like us, it would be equity and equity only. And now literally there is a broad range of options from traditional banks, alternative lenders, Sovereign funds have approached us. We've talked to literally a host of different opportunities, each, you know, with certain pluses and minuses. And we're trying to weigh through all those options and come together with a complete package that's literally best for all of our stakeholders.
spk09: And then just a final one here is, you know, how much of the guy down is related to CPAS? If you can break it out, like CPAS versus FX versus kind of like the macro environments. And then to that is, you know, how much of an FX headwind do you think there is for the remainder of the year? Thanks.
spk17: I mean, so if you take a look at the 20 to 25 million kind of, you know, service side and 25 to 30, I would say, you know, number one is maybe a third FX, a third CPaaS, and a third UCCC for applications, kind of when you mix it all together. And, you know, Look, far be it for me to use the word macro. We're a small fish in a big pond, so I'm never sure I'm willing to buy all those kinds of things. But I would say that's really the way to think about it. And then the only thing I would add is on the UCC side, look, we're trying to be really conservative with the small business piece. That's where we expect it. We continue to expect the enterprise side will grow. That's where our money is going. That's where our strategic initiatives are going, etc., It's really, we're trying to be more cautious given the environment. And so maybe that's where you would say macro is on the small business side, just, you know, it's gotten incrementally tougher on that side of the house.
spk16: Thanks for the call.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Breen with William Blair. James, your line is now open.
spk18: Thanks for taking the question. Can you talk a little bit about the channel and any changes you may have seen there, whether it's a slowdown in potential bids, et cetera, and maybe some of the pricing dynamics? Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, we brought in new leadership on the channel back at the beginning of the year, Lisa Derial, and that team is performing very well. We've also gone into the channel with improved how we deal with escalations, customer support elements, and have improved our reputation in the channel and continue to do that. And as you know, the channel's been growing quite nicely, I think growing at 70% year over year. So we're having success in that market. And I love these specialized programs that we're doing now with Elevate and some other programs that we're doing in the market that Lisa's bringing to bear. So overall, I think we're improving our traction and you're seeing it in the numbers, but I think there's a lot more opportunity there for us.
spk18: Great, thanks.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tim Haran with Oppenheimer. Tim, your line is now open.
spk16: Thanks, guys. On Elevate, can you just describe what your competitors are doing there, maybe how far ahead of the competition you are at this point? And I would think the relatively new channel partnership would really probably prefer to use you guys at this point than maybe even Microsoft themselves or others. Just a little bit more color around that would be great.
spk05: Yeah, I think the channel itself doesn't really make much money selling Microsoft. And so the opportunity for them is really getting into the higher level services such as cloud telephony and contact center. And the things we're doing to make our product fit well, stuff that Hunter's team is doing with our XT SKU, create a nice alignment. And now going after these incremental changes sellers that have traditionally not been able to sell those higher or not focused on those higher value services like cloud telephony and contact center bringing those into the fold and teaching them how to sell that category and get that incremental um you know economics is a huge win for the channel um thanks um and maybe just can you talk a little bit of how much free cash flow you think you can generate
spk16: you know, next year, if all goes well, you know, any color around that. Thanks.
spk17: Next year, you mean fiscal 24, don't you?
spk11: I do.
spk14: I'd like to see us be generating
spk17: between 30 and 40 million, but that's an off-the-cuff guess. It's not guidance. Put some other SEC words around it, but that's an off-the-cuff guess on, you know, plus minus, and if you give me a couple hours, I'll probably get you a more refined number.
spk16: Very good. Thanks, guys.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from Will Power with Baird. Will, your line is now open.
spk01: Hey, thanks for taking the question. This is Charlie Ehrlich on for Will. I had a question on gross margin, Sam. They're coming in strong and just wanted to ask what the expectations are for next quarter and the remainder of the year.
spk17: Next quarter, I would think flat to down. slightly down. Kate's yelling at me. Not a big down, just flat to slightly down. Quarter on quarter, we just have some moving pieces in there. And then for the year, look, we have a lot of programs underway, and we'd like to continue to see gross margins trend up. Look, the rate of increase will slow down. The wild card being the CPAS business, obviously, with the CPAS business being a little weaker, that improves gross margins. If the CPAS business bounces back, you'll see some gross margin dilution from that. But over multiple quarters, still want to see a trending higher.
spk01: Great. All right. Thanks for taking the question.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from George Sutton with Craig Hallam. George, your line is now open.
spk07: Thank you. You mentioned shortening of contract duration. I just wondered if you could go into a little more detail on where you're seeing that shortening.
spk17: That's a great question, George. I didn't look at it in that detail. I looked at the overall RPO pool. And to the RPO pool, we saw like a month, month and a half decline quarter on quarter in just to the overall pool duration. I didn't break it. I could guess that. I'll tell you, we'll probably see it more on the small business side. That's just generally where we see slightly weaker business trends. The enterprise side still remains relatively solid, strong, whatever word you want to use there.
spk07: A quick question for Hunter. You mentioned that output was increased by 25%. I wasn't sure what you were referring to being up 25%. Can you just clarify that?
spk02: What we track every quarter is the number of projects that we initiate and complete and our overall project completions. we're up by 25%. We have a lot of projects across an R&D team of our size, so we're relying something on law of averages there, but essentially we're getting a significant higher throughput in terms of projects that we complete.
spk18: Got you. Thanks, guys.
spk15: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Funk with Bank of America. Michael, your line is now open.
spk08: Thank you. And Dave, Sam Hunter, thank you for the presentation and commentary. One for Sam to begin, if I could. Sam, there's always a balance between messaging to equity versus debt holders. So how much of the guidance and then the decisions around sales and marketing and profitability is geared towards the debt market and the expected refi versus your view of near-term market opportunity?
spk17: Look, I don't view them radically differently. I mean, I would say what we do see is that more and more our equity holders are pushing us to become more profitable and potentially trim back low ROIC projects given the change in the overall market environment that we're in and a little more certainty in the growth profile of the company. And so I don't think that there is a different message or a different push between the two of them. I mean, in the end, you know, a discounted cash flow model works both the same ways. I would say that we want to make sure that if we do do, you know, depending on how we do the equity, I'm sorry, the debt refinancing, we want to make sure that we maintain cash flow profitability post any refinancing. And so there is some, you know, making sure that we're prepared for that also.
spk08: I understand it. Thank you for that. And then one more, if I could, sales and marketing efficiency comment, just to clarify a number of different ways to think about that, you know, dollars per sales and marketing, you know, obviously, you know, return and profitability of those sales and marketing dollars. So are we talking more about return and profitability? So shifting away from products, maybe you're becoming less profitable, lower return, more towards innovation, or is it just simply, you You know, revenue dollars per sales and marketing or, you know, sales per salesperson.
spk17: Okay, so I would say it's a great question and definitely one I'd love to talk to you about at length. And I'll try to give you a shorter answer, knowing that there is a deep, long answer that sits behind this. We look at it both ways. We certainly look at the core change in ARR or change in service revenue divided by sales and marketing spending, those types of metrics. We also look at change in bookings and those kinds of things relative to sales and marketing. But also, if you take a step back, there's a bigger picture here. Right now, we see more and more enterprises wanting to make the move to cloud. We see it benefiting our numbers. We see that industry trends, you know, that log jam starting to break through and to meet those enterprise customers, we, it makes sense to spend more on R and D and continue to innovate our product to meet that market need. And so when you get those enterprise customers, obviously they have lower business mortality risk, better LTV to CAC ratios and all those kinds of things also. So the more we can innovate, the more we can create product differentiation, the more we can land enterprise customers, the better our sales efficiency numbers will be naturally. And then on top of that, we are always continuing to focus on making sure that we put incremental sales and marketing spending in the areas of higher efficiency.
spk08: Great. Thank you, Sam, for the question. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Hunter.
spk15: Thank you. Our final question comes from Ryan Coons with Needham and Company. Ryan, your line is now open.
spk03: Great, thanks for the question. I wonder if you could give some more color on the CPaaS decline. Is this driven by cost and your respective price increases with your customer set driving lower volumes? Or are these like lost deals to alternate communication channels? And then secondly, transparency. Any way you can give us the organic ARR growth without views? Thank you.
spk17: I'll take the second part. You want to take the first part?
spk05: Yeah. We talked about there were some large accounts that reduced their marketing programs that were going over our communication APIs, and those customers have not come back. What we're working on is getting better ROIC for them in those marketing campaigns through lower costs. Additionally, we continue to add customers, but we see overall usage down a bit. It's a usage-based business, so we don't have the level of predictability that we do in our standard UCCC business. And I believe on the ARR.
spk17: I'll take that one. So we don't break out ARR by fuse and 8x8. We give you the revenue numbers, which you can extrapolate how you see fit. The big reason we don't is because we now have customers migrating, and so you get into this conversation of should you count them on the 8x8 side or the fuse side or whatever the case may be. And so we just try to give you the revenue numbers because that's clean, easy to go through, and we don't have to add anything. I would say when we think about segments, the big thing for us is that our enterprise ARR continues to grow rapidly. You know, very healthy, as we mentioned, XCAS, which you can sort of take as a euphemism for enterprise and some of these things, over 40% year-on-year. Enterprise probably growing over 30% year-on-year, those types of numbers. So there's where the stronger parts of the ARR is.
spk03: Helpful. Thanks, guys.
spk15: Thank you. Thank you. That concludes the Q&A session, as well as today's 8x8 Fiscal First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your
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