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11/6/2024
Good morning and welcome to the EOS Energy Enterprise's third quarter 2024 conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and your participation implies consent to such recording. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Liz Higley, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for EOS's financial results and conference call for the third quarter 2024. On the call today, we have EOS CEO Joe Mastrangelo and CFO Nathan Craker. Before we begin, allow me to provide a disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements. This call, including the Q&A portion of the call, may include forward-looking statements, including but not limited to current expectations with respect to future results and outlook for our company, and statements regarding our ability to secure final approval of a loan from the Department of Energy LPO or our anticipated use of proceeds from any loan facility provided by the U.S. Department of Energy, which are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Should any of these risks materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, our actual results may differ materially from our expectation or those implied by these forward-looking statements. The risks and certainties that forward-looking statements are subject to are described in our SEC filings. Forward-looking statements represent our beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during this call to reflect events or circumstances after today or to reflect new information or the occurrence of unanticipated events expect as required by law. Today's remarks will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures. Additional information including reconciliation between non-GAAP financial information to U.S. GAAP financial information is provided in the press release. Non-GAAP information should be considered as supplemental in nature and is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the related financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. In addition, our non-GAAP financial measures may not be the same or comparable to similar non-GAAP measures presented by other companies. This conference call will be available for replay via webcast or EOS Investor Relations website at investors.eosc.com. Joe and Nathan will walk you through the company highlights, financial results, and business priorities before we proceed to Q&A. With that, I now turn the call over to CEO Joe Mastrangelo.
Thanks, Liz. Welcome, everyone. Thanks for taking the time this morning to listen in. We start off on our page with operating highlights. I just want to start off with the tremendous progress that we're making commercially, and I think that's shown by the announcement that we made this morning on the $73 million order with the City Utilities of Springfield, Missouri. Really a phenomenal job by the commercial team. getting our first large order in the municipal market. This is the largest order that City Utilities has ever placed for an energy storage system. We're proud that they selected EOTEN's technology. For this project, we look forward to start delivering this project throughout 2025. Really an exciting time for us. I think showing the power of the V3 and what it can do out in the marketplace. At the same time, we also have what people would think is a small order. We'd want more and want more as a repeat customer and just show the relationships as a team building out in the marketplace and the fact that the technology also really works in a microgrid application. So two really strong examples of the commercial offering and the performance of the product on the field. At the same time, two big things that we also have announced recently regarding finance. Nathan has been working on creating the financing capacity for us to scale the company. Last week we announced achieving the milestones and getting to $65 million. does not reflect that $65 million. It's a great job, not only in partnership with Cerberus, but also the team in delivering and bringing that funding in. At the same time, we've submitted our paperwork for the final U.S. government approval for a loan with the loan programs of the Daily Loan Programs Office for a Title 17 loan. Very excited to bring that to closure here by year end. It's a process of going through that as the company has evolved and changed. We feel really good about the partnership we've built and the ability to allow us to scale the company further. On the lower left-hand side of the page, the technology continues to prove itself out in the field. We're now at 4.4 gigawatt hours, over 4 gigawatt hours discharge out in the field. That discharge out in the field is very important because it shows customers using the product that incremental 400 megawatt hours that you have to get to 4.4 is also very important because that's the energy that we're generating when we test and prove out the resiliency, performance, and operating characteristics of the product. When your battery is tested before it gets out in the field, we're really excited about the performance that we see. The middle of this page, the bottom of the middle of this page, is the area where we're disappointed in our performance. Executing our supply chain strategies, doing a million things correctly, if one of those things don't go well, you have a problem. And that's what happened to us here in the third quarter. And when you look at what we talked about last year about developing a new cube design that allows us to improve the performance of our product out in the field and get better footprint density, we had some challenges in opening and bringing that supply chain online, which we're working through to be able to bring that product online. Now, we're gonna work through that. We're gonna work through with the supplier. We're gonna continue to develop and grow. The good news is it hasn't had any impact on our backlog. We continue to work with customers on timing of deliveries and continue to work on supply chain diversification. We can and expect to do better than this in the future. What's important here is we've brought in some new leadership around the operational team and some new talent that I've experienced across the industry, both in other battery technologies and other competitors and in integrators. So we're bringing in experienced people that have done this before to help us scale the company as we move forward. While we're not happy with where we are, I feel very confident with the team's ability execute and deliver as we look to the future. Going to the next page, I'm going to talk about some of these on the prior page. I just want to hit on a couple things around the service milestones. The line continues to perform and we're really happy with our ability to build a good battery. Cycle times are less than 10 seconds and our first patch yield is greater than 97%. We continue to see the performance of that line and what it means to us as far as being able to scale and deliver on large projects and be really the foundation for everything we're gonna do going forward. We're also, the team is also ahead of target on its concept also, so I'll talk a little bit more about that as we get into the presentation here on the next page. But really, I think the foundation, the thesis of the investment from Cerberus, we're proving that out to be true every day, and we're just gonna continue noticeably grindstone, execute, and deliver for customers and shareholders. The commercial momentum, I talked about the two new orders that we want, very exciting, but at the same time, working with Cerberus, we've been able to pull together a full bankability offering out in the marketplace. Some of the things we've talked about in the past, when Nathan gets to our pipeline page, is how do you move things down through that pipeline? We're now bringing, I'll talk about in more details, the ability for customers to look at us and say, this is a bankable technology, and I have the backslips that I need to take the risk to move with a new technology. We see, because of that, we see the large utility pipeline strengthening. We'll talk about the numbers that we have on the line, but what I can tell you is that more and more people are coming to us, more and more customers are coming to us to really look at the inherent benefits of the technology. What we've learned from the standpoint of operating the business through the due diligence that we've gone through both with the DOE and with Cerberus is that we have a technology with differentiated performance. We probably haven't done the best job historically in presenting that technology and what it means to deliver benefits to the customer. And that's why you see things like seeing utilities becoming a bookable order in less than six months from when we first got the request for quotation in the door. So we've moved now to operational scale and capacity. We are delivering on our cost-out roadmap and we are optimizing our production supply. On the left-hand side of this page, as far as cost-out progress, very critical for us And we really look to switch our mindset from having a path to profitability to delivering profitable growth. Our goal as a company is to grow but deliver profits while doing so. The left-hand side of this page allows us to do that.
On the direct material side, from the launch, we're down 42% of cost.
That's ahead of our plans. 80% of our direct material target is achieved and locked in and will be cut in over the next few months to deliver on that initial strategy that we talked about almost a year ago. Now, those two pieces there really are achieved because what we have is a battery with readily available commodities that we can go out and get a great scale on. And as we've gone out and done this and look at doing things, we're also finding ways that suppliers can partner with us to find ways to take costs out of the overall system. On the direct labor side, we've seen a 77% improvement since we launched the Z3. A lot of that has to do with the implementation of the moving model. Our direct labor was 41% lower than Q1. Now, while we only had 8% higher battery output with that 41%, we delivered 24% more energy out to the field to our customers. Now, what's critical to think about here is we could have done more if we had the cubes to be able to deliver it. We tied kind of the way we were manufacturing to what we had to be able to put into cubes to deliver out to the field to customers. But when you look at this and you think about this, the line is using less hours to operate to deliver more power and batteries to the field. As we increase that, we're going to see more and more of the benefits, which brings me to the third bucket on the left-hand side, which is our overhead. The overhead has seen an improvement 25% since we launched the product. And that 25%, now that the line is up and running, includes higher depreciation costs for the moving line. So we still see overall operating costs, or overhead costs coming down, even with this incremental cost for the line coming in. And as we scale up and produce more batteries, that gets better and better over time. And that's one of the things that we've always talked about as being one of the drivers for future performance on our cost-out roadmap. We feel very confident in being able to deliver on this, and Brian Miller, who was our new Our supply chain manufacturing leader has really brought a fresh set of eyes to this with a lot of experience across different companies to help us really streamline how we operate and improve the throughput of the assets that we have. The three areas that we're focused on there is our sub-assembly process. So what goes into the moving line? It's still semi-automated. We talked about this on the last call. We've actually yielded more parts out of that process than we ever have before. We've increased the throughput out of that line, and implementing automation as we get into the beginning of next year allows us to take the moving line up to around 2 gigawatt hours of output annually. We see 57% lower direct labor costs with this incremental automation. Those direct labor costs are really avoiding having to hire labor to do the work that we're going to do. On battery manufacturing, as I said before, we achieved 10 second cycle times. We exceeded 97% first pass yield. We continue to look at ways to make this line better. As we've been operating the line, we get feedback from our operators. On the factory floor, we have said, look, if the streams that we're using to control the equipment were simplified, we can make better decisions faster and allow better throughput. We're going through and adjusting those. to allow us to control the availability of the line better. At the same time, you learn as you build, and every day we run that line, and then we stop and we look at what we learned, and then we go back and we fix and update and improve. So two of the areas that we've really looked at and are improving is the conveyor traffic management, so how batteries flow station to station on the line, while at the same time, how we program the robots to get better reliability and performance out of them. As volume increases, as I said before, that manufacturing overhead that I talked about earlier will actually improve and that number will get better and better. The cost comes down and that's how we will deliver profitable growth. On containerization, this is the area where we stubbed our toe here in the quarter. We had a slower ramp up. We've got to work through that and diversify that supply base while continuing to invest with our existing supplier. We are implementing a cube automation in our factory here in Turtle Creek that will increase the output of cubes by 5x once implemented. That's already started and beyond. The initial stations are in place and that will continue here over the next few months. The third quarter enclosure constraint will impact our second half revenue. Again, we don't like disappointing versus our expectations, but we feel as though we'll be able to work through here through the end of the year, get into 2025 and deliver the volume that we have committed to our customers. We're going to get better. We're going to continue to refine. We're going to continue to learn. We're going to continue to improve and continue to become a reliable partner for our customers and someone who reliably delivers for our shareholders as we mature. As we go to the commercial growth section, before I turn it over to Nathan, I just want to spend a moment looking at how we're strengthening the value promise. with our batteries that we have lower round trip efficiency than other technologies, particularly lithium ion. But the chart on the left shows is various round trip efficiencies across a full depth of discharge, so zero to 100, back down to zero, and what the round trip efficiencies are. The lines that you see are a four-hour, six-hour, 10-hour, and a 16-hour. So we've now taken the Z3 to the point of discharging NC. What we've done is we've gone and we've looked at how the industry quotes its round trip efficiency. We were quoting and discussing zero to 100. Now, every battery that's out in the marketplace has a tail off outside of that 20 to 80 discharge window. What happens to other technologies is they degrade their performance faster or they have problems being able to secure the life of their batteries. With EOS, that doesn't happen. We just have a lower route trip efficiency, and the customer can benefit from it if you can, but what we've learned is as you are comparing us to other technologies, you need to compare us on the same basis. So at a 16-hour discharge, we're above 90% route trip efficiency. That's with the same size system that you would have for a 4-hour discharge. That would be an 80% discharge. So as the durations get longer, the battery is more efficient, as we've always said. And as you think about us in the standard window, we're competitive with what's out in the market today. And at the same time, we can offer that wider range as the customer requires it. And that's why you're starting to see more and more interest in the product. On the right-hand side of the page, we're building this full bankability offering. First one is extending our warranty and launching a suite of insurance products. These are the products where customers question You know, what's the viability of this? How do we move forward? You know, how do we know that the product's gonna work? And we're going out and now putting that into our business model and now finding financial instruments that will help give the customers the assurity that they have to take that first order, to be the first of first instead of the first of second. Next is we've done some critical third-party validation, both with the due diligences with the DOE and Cerberus, and again, there being a BNEF tier one supplier, and then refreshing our DNV bankability and our UL certification. All those things give the customers the comfort of knowing that they have the warranty and the guarantee that they're going to get the product that they contracted for, they've got third parties that will validate that the technology will work, and then the last one is proving out this ability to deliver large-scale projects. We continue to work on and improve our supply chain as I talked about, we continue to ramp As we look at the moving line, I feel really good about a lot of the things that happened in this last quarter. I feel disappointed in the revenue, but know that we have the team, the resources, and the knowledge to fix and get better as we move forward. So with that, I'll turn it over to Nathan.
Thanks, Joe, and thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning. I will spend the rest of the time walking through our commercial growth, providing an update on our strategic partnership with Cerberus, and then review our third quarter financial performance and our outlook for the remainder of the year. Our commercial pipeline as of September 30th stood at $14.2 billion, which is up $400 million from the prior quarter and represents 59 gigawatt hours of storage, which is up 13% sequentially. This pipeline includes $1.7 billion in signed letters of intent, a 23% increase quarter over quarter with most of these either awaiting customer financing or confirmation of interconnect approvals. Notably, in July, we signed a 960 megawatt hour letter of intent with a solar plus storage developer in Puerto Rico, which is now reflected in these numbers. We expect that LOI to convert into a booked order as soon as the customer completes their financing. As we look forward, we expect Puerto Rico and surrounding island countries to be significant growth markets as we expand our presence in the region. As previously highlighted, we are currently tracking 2.2 gigawatt hours in late-stage approvals, which we define as projects awaiting financing, government grants, or final selection from project shortlists. This number includes a few key projects, such as the projects that are pending financing in Puerto Rico, or the notification of the next phase of DOE grants for three long-duration energy storage projects was one of the biggest names in the industry. and a long-standing developer relationship, which encompasses a deal predicated on California Energy Commission funding for a Marine Corps-based storage installation. This figure is pretty consistent with last quarter, showing minimal change as these projects progress through critical approval stages. The 3% increase in our commercial pipeline quarter over quarter reflects the healthy churn of new projects entering, progressing through, and sometimes completing interim stages within the pipeline, as Joe discussed earlier. Our strategic partnership with Cerberus has clearly served as a positive catalyst, driving momentum within our pipeline. Cerberus has actively supported commercial initiatives in several important ways. Not only have they leveraged their extensive list of contacts and credibility in the marketplace to initiate and advance conversations with potential customers, but they have been working tirelessly to help us with developing a comprehensive bankability solution, as Joe discussed earlier. We feel very confident about our pipeline and the positive trends we are seeing. More specifically, with the recent efforts to improve overall bankability, we are seeing renewed interest in larger utility scale project opportunities with blue chip customer projects in the southeast and western regions. Additionally, as we discussed earlier, we continue to experience promising developments with municipalities and electric co-ops, as well as microgrid and data center applications. Now, moving to the right, Our backlog as of quarter end was $589 million, which is up 9% from this time last year and up slightly from last quarter. During the quarter, we booked an additional order with Wattmore, who is a repeat customer, supporting an existing community microgrid in Lincoln, Nebraska. In our first project with Wattmore, we supported the city of Logan, Utah's electric utility for their first energy storage system. Yesterday, we also announced a large customer agreement with Citi Utilities to provide 216 megawatt hours of long duration energy storage for two project sites in Springfield, Missouri, which will be included in next quarter's published backlog numbers. This was their largest investment to date in energy storage and a significant win for our team. This is a great example of how a project can advance quickly through our pipeline as we moved directly from proposal to firm contract without going through the LOI phase. We are very excited about this City Utilities relationship as we see this as a model that we can use to expand our presence with other municipal customers. The next page provides an update on our capital position and recent updates related to the Cerberus strategic investment in EOS. As many of you know, since joining the company, I have been laser focused on securing the foundational capital needed to deliver on our profitable growth strategy. A significant amount of effort has gone into the capital sources on this page, and I believe we are now well positioned to scale the company with our Cerberus relationship and our upcoming DOE loan. As a quick reminder on the structure of that investment, it includes a $210 million delayed draw term loan that funds in increments upon the achievement of certain performance milestones, and a $105 million revolver that we may draw upon, if needed, at Cerberus's discretion. At the end of August, we announced the successful achievement of all four of the first performance milestones. This allowed us to draw an additional $30 million on the delayed draw term loan to fund our capital expansion and ongoing operations. These milestones included targets related to the company's automated production line, materials cost out, improvements in Z3 technology performance, and customer cash conversion. Included in this was our successful achievement of battery module production cycle times of less than 10 seconds, while exceeding first pass yield targets in the high 90s on the state of the art battery manufacturing line. This was a critical milestone and an important step toward profitability given the implications to our manufacturing throughput. I'm also pleased to state that just last week we successfully met the requirements for the second tranche of performance milestones. And as a result, we're able to draw down an incremental $65 million on the term loan. While achieving all four of last week's milestones, a key accomplishment was exceeding our cost out target and already exceeding yield metrics for the two upcoming milestone dates. These accomplishments are important steps as we position the company for growth. We now have $170 million, or a little over 80%, of the term loan funded without having to give up any incremental equity that was incorporated into the overall strategic investment structure. The next performance milestone date is scheduled for January 31st, and we are actively working towards the next funding tranche of $40.5 million alongside the next round of performance milestones. This $210 million is a critical piece of getting to profitability. but we also have the optionality presented by the revolver in the event that it is needed to escalate growth and meet customer demand. And finally, as we announced yesterday, we've made significant progress in working with the DOE over the last couple of months as we move closer to closing and funding on the previously announced DOE loan commitment. This loan provides reimbursement for previous eligible capital and operating expenditures associated with Project AMAZE as well as funding additional manufacturing capacity at a lower cost of capital than the Cerberus revolver. Depending on the final timing of the first advance, we expect to receive between $50 and $60 million before funding certain DOE reserve accounts, and then we will be able to continue to submit additional eligible costs for reimbursement every few months as we continue to build out Project AMAZE. A lot of progress has been made on this loan since we last spoke to you. Working alongside Cerberus, we have reached agreement on all of the significant loan documents with the DOE and are currently awaiting final approvals. It's important to note that the size of the loan is expected to be reduced somewhat as, and you may recall Joe explaining this in previous quarters, some of our shakedown and operating costs are coming in lower than previously anticipated. In addition, with the Cerberus capital getting us closer to profitability, we just don't expect to need as much additional capital as we were thinking when we originally applied for the loan. We ultimately ended the quarter with $23 million in cash on the balance sheet, not including $7.6 million in short and long-term restricted cash related to escrowed security deposits and our minimum liquidity covenant under the Cerberus loan. We continue to explore opportunities to monetize our production tax credits and recently sold our electrode active material, or EAM, credits for the first time, netting over $800,000 just ahead of the October 15th tax return filing deadline. As you may recall, the EAM credits are related to the utilization of cathode and anode materials, as well as electrochemically active components like solvents, additives, and electrolyte salts that are critical to our energy storage processes. We have calculated the credit as 10% of the costs incurred during production, excluding material costs. However, we continue to review and assess the final regulations and expect a sizable increase in the amount of our EAM credits as a result of these final regulations. This monetization is an important milestone given the added complexity and due diligence requirements on the EAM credits and shows the importance of being an American manufacturer, building American products with American materials. We feel confident that we will be able to monetize these EAMs along with our 45X credits going forward. In addition, customer deposits and milestone payments continue to be a source of cash to fund our working capital requirements as we ramp up operations. The purchase order we announced yesterday includes a sizable deposit, which will help fund some of the upfront working capital requirements of production. And we continue to see positive momentum and anticipate an increase in customer deposits as pipeline continues to convert to booked orders. With that, let's get into our third quarter financial results. In the third quarter, revenue was $0.9 million, which was unchanged compared to the prior quarter and roughly 25% higher than the prior year. As you may recall, last December we discussed some of the benefits and cost reductions associated with our new inline cube design. Unfortunately, our Q3 revenue is much lower than our expectation as we were negatively impacted by the delays in these newly designed enclosure receipts, which are a critical component in the assembly of our new inline cubes. As Joe mentioned earlier, we've taken proactive measures to address the supply chain constraints we are facing. We are actively working with our key supplier and look at ways to diversify our supply chain and get more reliable performance and minimize the impact to our production schedule. This delay has had no adverse impact on our total committed backlog and we are actively working with customers on updated delivery schedules. Cost of goods sold was $25.8 million compared to $21.3 million in the prior year. The increase was mainly driven by two large projects undergoing commissioning in the quarter and a $6.3 million lower of cost or market inventory reserve adjustment. Just to remind everyone, given we still have negative margins on our finished product, the accounting requirements are to book a reserve to reduce the value of all finished goods and work in process inventory at the end of the quarter. And given the enclosure delays we discussed earlier, we had more WIP at the end of the third quarter than we otherwise would have had. Including the LCM adjustment, there was $9.8 million, or 35% of COGS, in non-cash items such as depreciation, amortization, reserve adjustments, and stock-based compensation. As we increase production going forward, the fixed cost components of indirect labor and factory overhead will be absorbed across a greater number of units, driving down unit costs and supporting our path to profitability. Other operating expenses for the quarter totaled $28.4 million, an increase of 65% compared to prior year, mainly driven by shakedown costs associated with the state-of-the-art manufacturing line, which are eligible costs for reimbursement under the DOE loan, along with higher legal and professional fees related to financing activities and a $3.2 million non-cash PP&E write-off in the quarter as we made enhancements to Z3. Excluding non-cash items such as depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and PP&E write-offs, other operating expenses were $19.8 million. The operating loss in the quarter was $53.3 million compared to an operating loss of $37.8 million in the prior year. Excluding non-cash items that I've already mentioned, our operating loss was $35.0 million. Net loss to shareholders for the quarter was $342.9 million compared to net income of $14.9 million in the prior year, while net loss to common shareholders was $384.1 million compared to $14.9 million in the prior year. These significant differences were mainly the result of a change in fair value of derivatives tied to mark-to-market adjustments as our share price increased by approximately 134% in the current quarter, comparable to our share price decrease of approximately 50% for the prior period. This quarter, we elected to introduce non-GAAP measures, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS, as we believe these metrics provide a more accurate and relevant comparison of our financial performance period over period given the large non-cash movements included in our net loss. We plan to continue to report these non-GAAP metrics going forward. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was negative $46.1 million compared to negative $30.8 million in the prior year with an adjusted EPS of negative $0.44. Finally, let's shift our focus to 2024 outlook on the next slide. As we discussed earlier, driven by the challenges we've had with our enclosure supply chain, we are reducing our revenue guidance and expect to recognize approximately $15 million in revenue for the full year. Importantly, this reduction is not driven by the cancellation of any orders or customer deliveries, but rather we have been working with our customers to reschedule deliveries to align with our latest estimates of enclosure availability. As with any supply chain disruption, it takes a while to get back on schedule, and our fourth quarter revenue estimates now take this into account as well. The delayed deliveries and corresponding revenue from Q3 and Q4 of 2024 should occur in Q1 and Q2 of 2025 as the enclosure supply chain stabilizes to meet customer demand. While disappointed in the impact of this year's revenue outlook, we feel confident about our growth trajectory as we look at 2025 and beyond. Cerberus sees the strategic value in their investment and continues to support our strategy to deliver profitable growth. They have been very understanding as a partner as we've worked together to ramp up production and also reviewed the supply chain issue and agreed to give us a waiver on our September 30th revenue covenant without any additional fees for doing so. We anticipate a similar waiver or amendment for the December 31st covenant as well. Since making our initial investment, Cerberus has not only provided financial support but also valuable insights and resources that will improve our product offering, strengthen our product supply chain, and open up new commercial opportunities. Their commitment to our vision and operational goals is enabling us to navigate challenges more effectively and capitalize on emerging opportunities. Lastly, we expect to achieve positive contribution margin before year end. And just to remind everyone, we define contribution margin as sales price, less direct labor, direct materials, and also includes the benefit of the production tax credits. The team continues to be very focused on cost out and has been driving both product performance improvements and material cost out as we move forward on delivering key customer projects. We look forward to providing more information on our expectations for 2025 on a future call, and look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. And with that, I want to thank everybody for their time today, and I would now like to turn it over to the operator for questions. Operator?
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Thomas Boyce with TD Cowan. Thomas, please go ahead with your question.
Appreciate you guys taking the questions. Maybe just the first one. Could you give us any insight into the underlying issues that led to the new inline enclosures being delayed? Is it a manufacturing issue with molds, a shortage of capital equipment for the supplier's production setup?
Was there a shortage of raw materials? Just any insight there would be helpful.
Yay, Thomas. Good morning. I just want to clear up what we're talking about because we've gotten – some emails into the IR inbox with people asking specifically what this is. So let me first explain to everybody what we're talking about. So the battery module is the gray box that goes into a steel enclosure. So you take battery modules, you manufacture them on our automated line. That production was at a higher, more productive rate than we've ever done in the past. We didn't have any issues with the plastics or anything else around us. We're manufacturing batteries, and as we sit here right now, we have 27 cubes worth of batteries manufactured waiting for steel enclosures to show up. The steel enclosure, you put 672 batteries inside of that steel enclosure. There were some challenges with our supplier transitioning from prototype to scaled manufacturing. to be able to get the throughput that we needed and the quality that we require to get out in the field. We've been working with the supplier to be able to get to that point and to be able to flow production. But we're not wasting a crisis. At the same time that these things have been happening, we went into our process where we integrate the batteries into the cube, and we're finding ways to reduce cycle time and do that faster that will allow us to catch up once the supply chain catches up. At the same time that we're doing this, we're out in the market looking for second and third sources of supply. The natural question would be, why didn't you do that before? But I think everybody has to take a step back and realize that up until June of this year, we were an undercapitalized company. So it was hard to go out and get two sources of supply. So we bet on a supplier that's always delivered for us, and I believe will deliver for us in the future. And we had an acute supply chain issue that resulted in lower shipments. than anticipated. We are working through it and we'll work through it and we'll come back with updates to everybody as we have more information. But I just wanted to clear that up and make it clear of what we're talking about and get at the underlying issue that we have and how the team is working on that to resolve and get back to the flow that we expect coming off of our automated line and also out of the factory with the cubes that go out to the field. Got it. That's very helpful. How quickly can this be dual source? Obviously, it looks like just with this customer, it takes a little bit of time to get to the quality level that you're looking for. I'm just trying to maybe assess what's the risk of seeing these supply chain challenges persistent to one Q25 or if it's something that can be achieved in a relatively short amount of time. Yeah. Tom, great question. What I'd say is we were out. No one supplier is going to be able to deliver what we need from a product as the company scales and grows. So you start looking at where we are. The order that we signed, that we announced last night, you put on top of that the backlog that we have and the projects that we're executing on. We need more than one supplier to be able to do that. We're in the process of bringing in a second source of supply. We already have a prototype in-house from that supplier to be able to look at that design and do all the quality verifications with the goal of getting production started by the end of this year from the second supplier. Excellent. No, I really appreciate you answering the questions. We'll hop back in here.
Thanks. Thanks, Thomas. Stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Martin Malloy. Martin, go ahead with your question.
Thank you for taking my questions. First one, I just wanted to find out if you have any early customer feedback from the early installations of the Z3 battery.
Nothing that we'll talk about that as we go forward here. In the future, what I would tell you on the modules themselves is that they perform well. We're in the process of installing them with the customers. We're being purposeful in how we're doing that. It is a new product for the customer and working through that and getting them up and operating. What I'd say is the initial results that we're seeing are positive, but we have more work to do with them.
Okay. And then it's great to see a large order like what you announced with the utility. Can you maybe... talk about customers visiting either your, I think you have a pilot project in New Jersey or a demonstration project or the automated line. Has that type of customer changed or are you seeing more customers come through and wanting to see what you're capable of here now that you've got the automated line up and running?
Yeah, so what I'd say, Marty, is yes. We have a lot of people coming in both to Edison, New Jersey and to Turtle Creek in Pennsylvania. I think when you walk into the factory and you see the batteries moving down the line, people then look at this and say, we see that you can scale and we take them over to where we do the containerization and show them the processes that we're putting in place. to allow us to get the throughput that we want. I mean, that's ultimately why City Utilities felt comfortable with placing their largest order for energy storage that they've ever placed on us. And I think the team that we built, you know, we continue to build out talent on the organization. We've had a talented team, but as the company scales, we need more of that talent on the field here, helping the company perform. We're doing that. We're bringing in people that have worked for competitors, that have worked in lithium ion, that have worked in the space, and they're coming to EOS because when they come and interview, they see what we have, and they realize what the market needs, and they know that they can be part of building something that's gonna change the way we power the future. I really believe in this, and I think the team believes in it, and unfortunately we had this period of time where we had a hiccup. A supply chain is doing a million things right every day, million simple things at the end of the day like when you look at what what happened here you say wow you know this is a simple steel cube yes these things happen all the time but when you're a company of our size they can they can cause a you know a big big issue with being able to deliver on your commitments embarrassed by the fact that we're not on the commitment but convict have a high conviction that the team will deliver and that the customer sees the benefit of the product you know the page that i presented with the round trip efficiencies that's pretty powerful like we never went up to a 16 hour discharge before but when you look at that when you look at that that round trip efficiency there in the normal operating window that everybody talks about that's very powerful the other thing i'd add inside of that is you know although the sound wasn't really great i understand when i was talking um and we've hopefully we fixed that now but like When you think about, like, we've got this battery out there, we've got our own EMS, and now partnering with Cerberus to bring in AI and edge computing and software and analytics, the performance of that battery is only going to improve over time. I mean, we are in the early stages of bringing this product to market. There's a lot more we can do, and we love sharing that with our customers because when they see it, they believe it, and then you see the impact of that in our pipeline.
Great. Thank you very much. Stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Stephen Gangaro with Stiefel. Stephen, go ahead with your question.
Thank you. Good morning, everybody. I think two questions for me. You talked a little bit about this, but when you think about the supply chain issues, I mean, obviously, we're talking about small numbers turning into large numbers, so the revenue ramp. and the push-out looks large, right, relative to what you reported. But how should we think about it? I know it's early, but should we think about a major revenue inflection point in the first quarter next year or the second quarter next year? Is there any color you can give us around that?
Yeah, that's a great question. So what I would say, like, we'll come out with 2025 guidance, but when we just talk about ramping into – the production. What I would say is we'll get to a normalized rate of production here in December. You have to realize even with those 27 cubes of batteries sitting on the shop floor waiting for a cube to show up, we're not running the line to its full capacity, its number of hours per day. We're trying to manage to deliver for customers while managing the cost, the cash and inventory impact that we're having. So we're trying to time everything. I think we'll get to a normalization. We'll talk about that on a future call, but what I would say is I anticipate a first quarter that's relatively higher obviously than what we're doing now, but relatively flat, ramping into growth as we get into the second quarter and second half of next year. principally driven by when I spoke about the automation of the sub-assemblies to be able to get the line to be up above two gigawatt hours of production. That's when we're going to see the ramp. We're being very purposeful on that sub-assembly manufacturing. We're getting good performance out of our semi-automated line. In order to get with good quality, automating that process, which we've always talked about, gets us the throughput to get more batteries off the line. Time that with multiple suppliers coming in on the cube. and the changes we're making in the containerization process, I think you really see the growth coming in as we get into the second quarter and second half of next year.
Great. That's good, Carl. Thank you. And the other question I had was, given sort of your stage of production growth, and you obviously had the city utility order come in, is there any way to think about the LOIs and the commitments, and how much of that is sort of in limbo until you guys prove the production and the delivery, et cetera. So they're kind of on the cusp of being signed, but you need, you need traction for those customers to sign or is it, or is it just other issues and timing that's, that's driving the, when these things get signed?
No, thanks for that question. Look, I think, uh, this is really, as we talked about earlier in the call, this is really about customers, you know, closing on their financing, getting their interconnections, getting important pieces of their projects pulled together. In many cases, they're on project short lists and just waiting to get projects awarded. I would say it's really not about us proving out our manufacturing capabilities. It really has to do with normal project development milestones that customers are working through. So again, we continue to work with them as we talked about on the bankability side, coming up with insurance products and and other warranty enhancements in order to help them with their bankability and their financing, I think you're going to see a significant increase in throughput through our pipeline as a result of that. And we're looking forward to talking more about that in future quarters as it comes to fruition.
Excellent. Thank you.
Stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Joseph Osha with Guggenheim. Joseph, go ahead with your question.
Hi, good morning. Thanks a lot. The first question I was going to ask has just been asked. It sounds like we can look forward to the fully automated line probably hitting its full stride kind of second half of next year. Is that fair from the comments I just heard? Second quarter, Joe, is what I would say. All right. Okay, thanks. And then I thought this news item in the press release on the insurance wrap is interesting. Is this something that some of your customers are asking for in order to secure attractive financing or just one or two of them or all of them? I'm just trying to understand how important getting this done is going to be in terms of getting a revenue ramp and product in the field. Yeah, and Joe, I would say it's just a little bit of color on what we're doing, right? We have quotes. This isn't like, let's go out and find it. This is, which one do we want to use? I think what this helps us do is accelerate what's sitting in LOIs and what's sitting in late stage because it takes off the table any questions you would have about EOS being here to deliver the references of the products. Now that we're able to go in with the production that we have and then tell people, look, as you come in and you're making your first buy, here's the way you get comfortable with your first buy. And I think over time that goes away. So it's just to remind you, and I'll let Nathan comment as well, because He's leading the charge here. This is a way for us to accelerate pipeline conversion as we look forward here.
Yeah, and I would just add, I think it's specific to each individual customer, right? It depends on how they're putting their financing together. In some cases, it's bridge financing, which is tied to ITC, so it's short-term insurance products around the ITC. There's insurance products around the ITC clawback. There's performance guarantee insurance. There's warranty backstop options. We're talking also about extending our standard warranty terms. So again, it's case by case, customer by customer. What we're endeavoring to do is have a suite of products with a large name insurance underwriter who's done their due diligence on our technology, done their due diligence on our ability to manufacture and deliver, and then tailor those offerings to a particular project or a particular customer in order to meet their needs, in order to get their deals closed and progressed.
Okay. Let me just perhaps, before I go away, ask this a different way then, because you guys are talking about advancing LOIs, which is great.
Is the shipping of any of this $589 million of hard backlog contingent on closing insurance or not? No. No.
No, those are firm orders that we have in our backlog today. So what we're really talking about is how do we move things from opportunities into a pipeline through LOIs and into booked orders. Great.
Thanks so much, guys.
Thanks, Joe. Stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Chip Moore with Ross Capital Partners. Chip, go ahead with your question.
Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Hey, everybody. I just wanted to maybe follow up there, Joe, sort of near-term pipeline conversion. I guess just any early thoughts, you know, given the new political environment on what that could mean is, you know, does that introduce some potential for delays, you know, sort of near-term as people wait to see how things shake out or what are your thoughts there? Thanks.
Yeah, I mean, Chip, so here's how I would think about this, right? I think we need energy storage regardless of who's in the White House, right? The industry needs it. There's global growth around it. There was growth five years ago in storage, and there's been growth here as technology gets adopted over the last 24 months. I think the other piece that we need is we need American-built energy storage, and we need safe assets on our grid that we sleep well at night knowing that we can control them, and that's what EOS brings. I think it's very clear on making America a manufacturer again, which we've done proactively. And we look at accelerating into that demand for a product that the industry needs, combined with a long strategy that we've held for the last five years of being a U.S. manufacturer with a president that we need to see, you know, with potentially a president-elect. I've been busy here. I don't know where the election stands. But, you know, it looks like with a Trump administration that's come in and has been very clear about how they feel about importing from China, Well, we're here. We build our product in Pennsylvania. Our suppliers go through Ohio, Michigan, New York, Massachusetts. I mean, it's the center of the country. It's 91% U.S. manufactured, moving towards 100, with the software being developed by an American company. I think that's pretty powerful, and I think we need this technology. And I've said this many times every time everybody asks me about this. I'm an energy executive. I'm not a green tech person. I've worked across every possible area of the energy value chain. We need this technology, regardless of who's there, and it's being adopted because it's required and it can work.
Very good. Appreciate that, Joe, and look forward to seeing everybody next week. Thanks. Great, Chip. Thanks.
This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back over to Joe Mastralango for closing comments.
Thank you, and thanks everyone for listening in today. Just a couple points I want to reiterate. We will come back with the progress that we're having on opening up the supply chain around bringing cubes in and where we stand on that. I think when we talk about bankability, we've got to be very clear that this was something that, given where we are with the capital available that Nathan's brought to the company, we now went out proactively with Cerberus to find Marsh to be able to go out and get quotes in to be able to do this. This wasn't a, oh my God, we have to do it. It was, let's play on our toes versus being on our heels when we're out in the market commercially. And that's where we're bringing in, I think, one of the things that we didn't talk a lot about on the call, I mentioned it in one of my answers, is being able to bring in this suite of analytics and performance monitoring to improve the way the technology performs out in the field. I think we're starting to expand the team and put a world-class team on the field to be able to do this. And I think the last thing, which we weren't asked, but I want to proactively address because we talked about it, As it relates to the covenant and the loan around revenue, Cerberus approached EOS about waiving that covenant. They approached us because they understand what was happening around the supply chain and that this was an acute issue, not a systemic issue, and they believe in the team. They believe in the ability to scale this business, and they have been a good partner for EOS in being able to do this. We look forward to continuing to work through, get the DOE loan closed, get the supply chain closed, stabilized and running, and continuing to work our pipeline and convert that pipeline through to bookable orders out into the field. I feel really good about the prospects of the company growing. I feel disappointed in the revenue that we deliver in this quarter, but this isn't a company that we should be looking at in individual quarters. This is a company that we have to look at over a period of time, and when you look at the product that we're putting out in the field, it's an amazing product, and it's an amazing product that proves that not only can you invent technology in the U.S., but you can manufacture technology in the U.S., and you can deploy technology in the U.S. And that's what the team at EOS has done and will continue to do. And we're hard at work making that happen every day. I thank everyone again for their time, and we'll be back soon with further updates as they happen.
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