Establishment Labs Holdings Inc.

Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call

8/8/2022

spk08: Good afternoon, and welcome to Establishment Lab's second quarter 2022 earnings call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. At the end of this call, we will open the line for a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and I will now turn the call over to Raj Dhanoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
spk06: Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us. With me today is Juan Jose Chacon Quiroz, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These include statements on Establishment Lab's financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to view our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, as well as other SEC filings which are available on our website at EstablishmentLabs.com. As a reminder, Establishment Labs received an investigational device exemption from the FDA for Metiva implants and is undergoing a clinical trial to support regulatory approval in the United States. We continually seek to expand the geographies in which our products are regulatory approved. Please check with your local authority for specific product availability. The content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, August 8th, 2022. Except as required by law, Establisher Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statement to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Juan Jose.
spk03: Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. I hope everyone is healthy and continues to remain safe. Revenue in the second quarter of 2022 totaled $41.2 million, a 29% increase over the second quarter of 2021. This is a new quarterly record for our company. Excluding the negative impact of foreign currency changes, our growth in the second quarter would have been approximately 33%. Our strong market share gains continue to be driven by our singular focus on women's health and well-being. Our commitment to bring highly differentiated technology based on science and patient-centric design is wholly unique in our industry. Most importantly, with this commitment to innovation, we are expanding existing markets and creating new categories that will sustain our growth for many years to come. Raj will provide additional detail on our second quarter performance and our outlook in a moment. If I turn the call over to him, I would like to highlight several recent events. In July, we released our annual sustainability report. We think about sustainability a little differently at Establishment Labs. Our company was founded on the understanding that the legacy of our industry cannot be our future. We are defined by our commitment to offer clinically safer and better options to women in their journey of breast health and wellness. Sustainability at its core is key to our continued growth and success. We recognize how privileged we are to lead the transformation of this industry through our commitment to women's health. We are focused on a future that is built on positive social and environmental practice. Most importantly, it is about the women who put their trust in us by choosing Latiba. By honoring this trust, we believe our business is on a strong foundation and our strong financial results are sustainable. Dr. Caroline Glixman, the principal investigator in our USID study, presented the two-year data from the primary augmentation cohort of the study in April. The results matched the exceptional performance we have seen over the past 11 years with the over 2 million Motiva implants we have sold around the world. We continue to receive very positive feedback on the results, and the interest it has sparked in the clinical community is tangible. As we announced last week, we have completed the remaining surgeries in the reconstruction cohort of the trial. Our USID study is now fully enrolled and we are moving diligently through follow-up. On the aesthetic cohort, as we've previously communicated, we are pursuing a modular PMA submission path. I'm pleased to announce we have submitted the third module to the agency for review. This module is related to the manufacturing of our implants. We look forward to submitting the fourth and final module to the FDA in the fourth quarter. In our aesthetic breast recon franchise, the launch of our Motiva Flora tissue expander in Europe and other CMR countries is ongoing. Flora has many advances over other commercially available tissue expanders, including a first-of-its-kind RFID-enabled port. which allows for MRI imaging without artifacts during the time an expander is used after a mastectomy. By being non-magnetic, FLORA potentially opens new options for radiation oncology treatment during this stage of recovery. FLORA also features our patented cell-friendly smooth silk surface technology, and early users have noted improved patient comfort and healthier capsule formation with this unique tissue expander. We are expanding the markets in which FLORA is available. Adoption will take time, but early efforts have been encouraging and add to our belief that we can help support women in their breast reconstruction journey. Surgeons are adopting our technology, with many making FLORA their expander of choice. FLORA is only the first step in our static breast recon initiative, where establishment labs will offer tools and techniques that allow women to receive reconstructive surgeries that achieve the aesthetic ideals to which they aspire and work to democratize breast reconstruction worldwide. We look forward to sharing more with you on these efforts in the future. In our consumer franchise, Mia, our minimally invasive injectable breast enhancement procedure, we continue to wait for regulatory clearance in Europe for the tools that are part of the Motiva Mia system. The migration in Europe from the MDD to the MDR standard has created some gaps in regulation for the industry, and this is adding to the regulatory timelines. As we wait for clarity, we continue to build our direct-to-consumer capabilities centered in our Women's Health Hub in Barcelona. We also continue to perform new MIA cases, as well as track the original 100-patient cohort we completed in April of last year. We have 100% follow-up on this first group of patients and the outcomes continue to support our belief that this approach will transform breast aesthetics and bring a new base of customers. Training of new surgeons in anticipation of our commercial launch is set to expand in the coming months. Overall, our early experience continues to support what we found in our market research, namely that the new category created by Nia could grow to more than 5 billion globally, with approximately half of the opportunity from new patients that had not previously considered a breast enhancement. Our clinical and commercial efforts in China are ongoing, and we continue to make progress in the regulatory process. Based on the updated expectations for the timing of regulatory review, given the effects of COVID-related restrictions in China, we expect approval for Motiva in this market in the first half of 2023. I will now turn the call over to Raj to cover our financial results.
spk06: Thank you, Juan Jose. Total revenue for the quarter was $41.2 million. Reporter revenue growth in the second quarter was 28.7%. Foreign currency changes reduced our second quarter revenue by approximately $1.5 million. Excluding the impact of currency, revenue growth in the quarter would have been 33.3%. Direct sales were approximately 41% of this total, while distributor sales, which can fluctuate based on changes in inventory levels and the timing of reorders, made up the balance. From a regional perspective, sales in Europe comprised approximately 32% of global sales. Asia Pacific and Middle East was 33%, and Latin America made up the balance. Brazil, which is our single largest market globally, accounted for approximately 16.3% of total quarterly sales. Our reported gross profit for the second quarter was $27.5 million, or 66.7% of revenue, compared to $21.5 million, or 67.1% of revenue for the same period in 2021. The change in gross margin was primarily the result of changes in foreign currency. Overall, average selling prices in the second quarter were down slightly from the first quarter of 2022. SDA expenses for the second quarter increased approximately $11.2 million to $33 million, compared to $21.8 million in the second quarter of 2021. The increase in SDA in the second quarter resulted from continued normalization in business practices following the disruption from the global pandemic and our prioritization of investment in new growth initiatives like MIA, and preparations for our launch in the U.S. R&D expenses for the second quarter increased approximately $0.6 million from the same quarter a year ago to $4.9 million. R&D expenses will fluctuate quarter to quarter based on the timing of clinical trial and other expenses. Total operating expenses for the second quarter were $37.9 million, an increase of approximately $11.8 million from the year-ago period. The increase this period was, again, due primarily to the normalization of activity and spending relative to a year ago, as well as the investments and growth initiatives. Net loss from operation for the second quarter was $10.4 million compared to a net loss of $4.6 million in the year-ago period. Our cash position as of June 30th was $91.3 million. This compared to $53.4 million at the end of the previous year. The increase in cash in the quarter was the net result of the first $150 million tranche from the new term loan we secured on April 26th. Net fees and the repayment of our previous loan, the new facility increased our cash balance by approximately $72 million. As a reminder, the term loan has three additional tranches totaling $75 million of non-dilutive capital we can access on the achievement of revenue and regulatory milestones. Cash used in the quarter included approximately $12.4 million of investments in our new manufacturing facility that will expand our capacity more than half the world's market. Under our current forecast, the cash we currently have on hand, as well as the additional capital available to us under our credit facility, can allow us to achieve cashflow profitability while still funding our growth initiatives. We are maintaining our sales guidance for 2022 in a range of $155 to $165 million, representing estimated annual growth of 22 to 30%. As we saw in our second quarter results, there is considerable momentum in our business, and we expect that this will continue even in the current macro environment. It is important to note that we are maintaining our guidance despite a steeper headwind from foreign currency. If current rates hold, currency will impact reported revenues by approximately 3.5%. This is about a point worse than our last update in early May. As it relates to our supply chain, we have seen so far minimal impact on our results. We are not immune to the challenges many global companies are experiencing, and we anticipate that those will remain for the rest of the year. As we look down the rest of the P&L, we continue to expect to see spending levels increase as we prioritize investment in the significant number of development and commercialization programs we have underway. The timing of expenses can make our quarterly results less linear, but overall, given our strong top-line growth, operating expenses as a percentage of sales should trend down over time, even as we increase strategic investments. We believe our company remains in a very strong competitive and financial position. And with that, I will turn the call back over to Juan Jose.
spk03: Thank you, Raj. As we invest in the significant growth ahead, we are mindful of the uncertain global environment. Our business has considerable momentum, but we are cognizant that the macro environment is unsettled. Because of this, we are taking steps to prioritize spending on our growth initiatives and to be more judicious about spending broadly. We are in a unique position given our strong sales growth, as well as a number of significant opportunities in front of us, but we are using this current environment to review and reprioritize our investments to the areas of highest return. The last few months have strengthened the foundations of Establishment Labs. We are grounded solidly in our commitment to women's health and wellbeing, and it is well within our reach to become the leading global company in breast aesthetics and reconstruction. We will continue to transform our markets in doing so, and we will create new categories for growth and more importantly, create new options for women around the world. I will now turn the call over to the operator for your questions.
spk08: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing any star keys. One moment please while we poll for any questions. Our first question comes from the line of Chris Cooley with Stevens. Please proceed with your question.
spk07: Good afternoon and congratulations on the record quarter. I appreciate you taking our questions here today. Juan Jose and Raj, if I may, just My first question, I'd like to maybe focus on growth. And clearly, the company's outpacing the global market rate of growth right now. But I would appreciate any call that you could provide as you think about the guidance range of 155 to 165 here, kind of what that implies in the back half. How much of that is share gains relative to market growth? I'm just kind of curious what the underlying base assumption is for the broad market. and then why you're confident in that kind of continuation of well above market growth. And then I've got a quick follow up. Thank you.
spk03: Yes, thank you, Chris. So again, you know, we see establishment labs performing above expectations and we feel very strongly about, you know, the way our team is able to work through any type of challenges. And if you take, for instance, Brazil as an example, We saw amazing performance coming out of Brazil. Our market share, you know, continues to increase. You know, we're hovering somewhere around 35% market share in that very competitive price-sensitive market, even though our pricing has increased 14% in constant currency in that market. So it shows you, you know, the strength of our technology and how medical education and and being able to train surgeons around the world in the best techniques and best usage of our products is helping us move through with renewed market share gains. I think that's happening, and even though the situation of growth is, of course, a question, we think that we will continue gaining market share from our competitors, and, of course, we have new markets that are coming, and that will allow us to, of course, agree on the expansion with geographic in the US and in China.
spk07: I appreciate that additional color. And then maybe it's one more for me on the operating side, and I'll get back in queue. Raj, you provided some incremental color there on the roughly $11 million step up, I think, versus what most of us were modeling for SG&A in the quarter, and specifically more so sales and marketing. I know in your prepared remarks you stated that you expect those expenses to continue to accelerate throughout the year. But can you help us kind of think about that a little bit, especially with China looking like it's being delayed a little bit now into early next year, kind of not only the gating but maybe kind of the underlying implications there for the burn rate? I know that's going to be a topic of discussion here. So does it peak? as we're exiting the year, and then you start to see a drawdown, or does this carry over into the first half of 2023 just because of the modest push out there on China? Thank you so much.
spk06: Yeah, thanks for the question, Chris. You know, generally speaking, if you look at all the opportunities in front of us as a company, I mean, we're clearly investing in those opportunities, right? So not only preparing for U.S. launch, but preparing for MIA, You mentioned the push out of China. China is a distributor market for us. So our investments there, while they will contribute, it's less than some of the other things we're working on. And so I think when you look at the business, we're getting ready for some significant opportunities that we're about to tap into over the next couple of years. And so we're spending on those. Having said that, though, we do expect our spending as a percentage of sales will trend down over time. Even this year, if you look at where we are in the first half relative to where we ended up for the full year of last year, our operating expenses as a percentage of revenue are still slightly below that. And generally, as we've commented in the past, the next couple of years in particular, this year and next year, people should not expect a lot of leverage from us. But as we get into the U.S. and we start to tap into some of these opportunities, that leverage will start to flow in earnest. So again, just appreciate that we're investing in and all the good things to come for us as a company.
spk07: Thank you and congratulations.
spk08: And our next question comes from the line of Zach Wiener with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: Hey, thanks for taking the question. Just one for me on Mia. Can you talk about how the procedure has evolved and what you guys have learned over the last year or so in that procedure?
spk03: Yes, thank you, Zach. So if we think about the first NIA procedures that took place in Japan in 2019 and the procedures that are being performed today, I can tell you there's just tremendous improvements in the patient experience. Since the beginning, we've had, you know, the ergonomics to diamond implant with their super silicones, you know, the improved chemistry and mechanical properties that allow that implant to be injected. But the procedure itself is what has been really a revelation because we are able to do this procedure without dissecting tissue the old way. So we are preserving all the tissue and that's what's allowing patients to have very little pain. That's what has allowed us to move decisively away from general anesthesia. And that's what's keeping these patients with the same sensation because we are not touching any of the nerve endings in that breast area. So all of that together really makes for a strong case for us being able to tap into a new consumer market. And that is mainly women who are not interested in traditional breast augmentation but are using compensatory behaviors like a padded bra, silicone inserts, or the type of clothing that they may use. So we feel very strongly that as soon as these products are able to go to market, they will make a substantial difference in terms of adding to a real new market. I was just in Japan last week, and I can tell you the excitement there is tremendous. We're looking at chains of clinics where we can launch these products as soon as we have the necessary go-ahead, and I couldn't be happier to see that progress. We're working through all the regulatory requirements in different geographies, especially in Europe, and looking forward to the launch.
spk04: All right, thanks.
spk08: And our next question comes from the line of Josh Jennings with Cowan. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on the record revenue result and the progress in the submission pathway. I wanted to ask Juan Jose just about just any challenges that your business is facing. Clearly your team is executing and navigating through a lot of headwinds, but what types of challenges is the business facing, whether it's reasonable pressures or supply chain, employee retention, any categories you can share just in how your team is managing through?
spk03: Yeah, I'll start by saying, Josh, that what Establishment Labs has done over the last few years is to be able to work through challenges and be able to pivot when necessary, find ways, and make our numbers. And I think we've been doing that for the first half of this year. We've seen challenges in supply chain that we've worked through. And those challenges in supply chain, I think we don't expect them to come down. I think our team has been really good at working through it. But those supply challenges will continue. On other fronts, it's been difficult with all the difficulties in hiring and turnover rates. We have engaged into a cultural project internally to make sure that we slow that down, and we're happy to see that the turnover rate of our employees is slowing. We are a high-velocity organization, and of course, it's not for everyone, but absolutely, we feel very strongly about what we are doing to strengthen our team globally. especially when we think about everything that is coming ahead of us. Our consumer business unit in Barcelona is being built. We have a lot of new talent that is coming on board, and that is going to help us in the launch at NIA. And, of course, when it comes to Flora, we're tapping into a new type of business. Breast reconstruction requires different skills, and, again, it's something that we're working through to make sure that we have what it takes. Furthermore, I think that it's a complicated year on the regulatory side because you have all these different challenges and they are not unique to establishment labs. These are things that different companies are experiencing, like what happened in China with the lockdowns is slowing the regulatory process for many companies. What's going on with the move from the MVD to the MDR in Europe as well is slowing down aesthetics in general when it comes to new products. Working through those challenges and hopefully we can continue doing this type of performance for the rest of the year.
spk01: Thanks for all that color. A follow-up is just wanted to ask about building of physician awareness of Motiva in the United States in front of approval. The aesthetic meeting was a big event for the company, especially after the data was released, the two-year data. But I was hoping to better understand how you feel U.S. plastic surgeon awareness for Motiva has built over the course of this year. And then just as we think about the three-year data, I think the last patient in the augmentation or set of cohorts should finish their follow-up this month. But could we see three-year data presented at a plastic surgery meeting in the United States this year? Or any help thinking about when that three-year data would be unlocked and made public would be great to understand as well. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk03: Yeah, I think there's a growing excitement around Motiva with the U.S. plastic surgery community. But we have to balance that excitement with not promoting Motiva ahead of time. ahead of an approval. So with more surgeons traveling overseas, they are able to speak to their colleagues. And of course, that always brings up the subject of Motiva. As you mentioned, the presentation of the two-year data at the aesthetic meeting in San Diego was a landmark event, especially when you see data that presents 0.5% capsular contracture rate, 0.3% rupture or suspected rupture, and that's what we've been about. Over the last 11 years, we've been able to prove that less than 1% device-related complications is possible, and we continue to prove with data that it is done through science and innovation. We do think that at some point, we will be able to show our three-year data, but our focus right now is on getting the fourth module finalized and sending it over to the FDA in the fourth quarter. So we're not gonna get ahead of ourselves telling you about specific date for releasing that three-year data, but you know as well, whenever it comes to being transparent with data, we know it's always gonna be in our favor, so we're gonna look for the right opportunity to do so.
spk01: Understood, thanks again.
spk08: Thank you and our next question comes from the line of Marie Tibble with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Hi, good evening and congrats on the strong quarter. I wanted to ask here first a little bit about the regulatory timelines with the MEA tools, the timing in Europe. Is that specifically just with the MDR transition or is there anything in particular that the agency is looking at around the tools themselves. And then secondly, what's happening behind the scenes in China? I know you mentioned a little bit of a delay on the timing there. We'd love to hear just what's happening over there.
spk03: Yes, thank you, Marie. When it comes to the tools, we have submitted absolutely everything that we need to submit. In the MVD to MVIR transition, there's an annex called Annex 16. And for that annex, they have to set up, you know, these new requirements. And the European Commission has not given those requirements. So that's why this is not only affecting us, it's affecting the entire aesthetics industry. So we're waiting for those, and, you know, we hope that as soon as we get them and those are published for the industry, then, you know, we'll be first in line to be able to, you know, to respond to them. We have done, again, everything that we needed to do up to now. When it comes to China, it is definitely COVID-related. So far this year, we have been making good progress, but I think over the last couple of months, as you have seen on the news, there's been a lot of lockdowns and the ability to have conversations on the progress has basically diminished. So that's why we updated our timeline to the first half of next year.
spk02: Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you for that. And then maybe a question for Raj. I apologize if I missed this, but I wanted to hear if there is anything we should be considering for the back half of the year in terms of summer seasonality or the like as we consider Q3 and Q4 revenue cadences. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk06: Absolutely, Marie. As you saw last year in our third quarter, we saw a meaningful step down from the revenue reported in the second quarter, and we expect that same trend will continue this year. As our business matures, we're not immune to these seasonal factors, and particularly as more people are traveling and things are getting back to normal post the pandemic, the seasonality is definitely pretty pronounced here in the third quarter. So we would, again, endorse the idea that we'll see some seasonality here in the third quarter, and then we should see a nice step up in the fourth quarter, as we saw again last year.
spk02: Thank you.
spk08: And our next question comes from the line of Amit Hazan with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: All right, thanks. It's Phil on for Amit, and thank you for taking our questions as well. On the US IDE, historically you guys have been a little bit reticent to provide specific timelines when the FBA is involved. I'm interested if your willingness to now provide a timeline for Module 4 submission by year end is an indication of increased confidence, or what went into the decision philosophically to give a more definitive timeline at this point?
spk06: Yeah, thanks for the question. I think it's really a reflection of the interaction we've had with the FDA. We've now submitted, as you heard on the call, our third module. The dialogue remains active. As you know, this month in August, we're passing three years on the augmentation cohort, so we have the full three-year data set now. And so our expectation, again, based upon everything we're seeing in our interaction with the FDA and how things are progressing has given us the confidence to, again, endorse the idea that by year end we should have everything in for approval.
spk05: Okay, that's helpful. A comment or a question on the FX side. I believe you commented a couple hundred basis points worse for the year than you had anticipated at 1Q. If you roll back to 4Q, can you remind us when your original guidance was set in dollar terms? How much worse is FX from a dollar standpoint than you anticipated at the start of the year? It seems to be kind of in the $3 to $4 million range.
spk06: It might actually be a little bit worse than that. It was probably closer to a million dollars, and now we're looking at something closer to $6 to $7 million on the year. The functional currencies at the main currencies for us are the Euro, right? We do have some Northern European exposure in some of the Nordic countries. The pound, all of these have weakened dramatically this year in And so it has gotten a lot worse. And I think, again, it speaks to the strength of our business that we've maintained the original reported guidance of 22 to 30% despite absorbing quite a bit of additional headwind this year.
spk05: That's helpful. Thanks, Raj.
spk08: And our next question comes from the line of Anthony Petroni with Mizuho Group. Please proceed with your question.
spk09: Thanks. Congrats on the quarter. Maybe a follow-up on the IDE study and and really going back to the current FDA guidance around silicone breast implants. And so the standard is still that, you know, the FDA wants at least three years of data for a PMA submission, but it's still, I guess, somewhat unclear that they, you know, potentially could want to see a little bit, you know, more data beyond three years again. So it's a minimum of three years of data. But again, the follow-up here on just the confidence of getting the fourth module submitted, and the PMAN does suggest that three years is sufficient, so just want to sort of take a temperature check on that, the guidance specifically around at least three years of data, and potentially if they're looking for more data, and then I'll have a couple of follow-ups.
spk03: Yeah, thank you, Anthony, and yeah, the guidance, this is pretty clearly that it's three years of data. Of course, you know, what we have done in terms of, you know, follow-up, of patients, you know, having that amazing number above 90% patient compliance, it's very helpful. Also, when you look at the complication numbers, that's also very helpful because it shows the strength of, you know, our clinical outcomes with the two-year data. So we are hitting our three-year data set at 100% in this month. So, you know, if anything, I think, you know, It has strengthened our ability to produce all the data that the FDA needs to approve Motiva implants for the US market.
spk09: That's helpful. And then just two follow-ups. One is macro related, and then just a quick one on FX. So on the macro side, just broadly across the markets you compete in, and not necessarily establishment labs specifically, but are you seeing some price competition from your competitors? perhaps maybe as spending gets tested a little bit, either by the patient or physician practices. So are you noticing any price competition out there amongst competition? And then just on FX, the dollar step up in total spending this quarter, some of it sounds like it was adding headcount, but certainly there's a translational impact there as well. So what was the dollar uptick related to FX? overall on the sequential pickup and spending? Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, it's a fair question, Anthony. And honestly, I don't think I can give you a terribly detailed number, right? So given the fact that we do have quite a bit of our expenses in US dollars, we have quite a bit of expense in Costa Rica, we have expenses in Europe, there is a natural offset to a lot of currency exposure for us. but in terms of an exact number as it relates to our spending, I don't have that in front of me here. But I think, as you mentioned, for us, when we look at spending, we are investing in the business, right? You look at the number of opportunities in front of us with MIA, the United States, and other things we're working on, we're standing up a lot of these operations ahead of when we're going to be realizing revenue from them. And so you're seeing a natural sort of... of lack of leverage this year and then into next year, as I mentioned earlier, but that should start to pay off as we get beyond those launches and the business really starts to generate revenue in those new areas.
spk03: Yeah, and I think when it comes to what you were mentioning with price competition, as I said before, for instance, we have made significant share gains in Brazil this year, although in local currency we are 14% higher than last year. and we are positioned in the premium category in that market. I was in Asia last week, and both in Japan and in South Korea, we have over 50% market share in breast aesthetics, and we continue to be solidly positioned as a premium brand in both markets. So when it comes to the way the markets have performed, I think what it shows is that Over the last decade, Establishment Labs has moved what used to be a commodity industry into an industry based on safety and aesthetic outcomes. And when it comes to that, I think we continue to prove that we can continue to gain market share even though our pricing is on the higher end.
spk09: Very helpful. Thank you.
spk08: And our next question comes as a follow-up from Amit Hazan with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.
spk05: Hi, thanks for taking the follow-up. It's Phil again. Just running the math, I assume most of the currency headwind was in Europe, given the move against the euro. But even then, it looks like maybe performance was a little bit softer in Europe, and then conversely, LATAM strength, if I got the geographic breakdown correctly. So I was just wondering if you could give a little bit more geographic color, if there's any divergence in what's going on in end markets and what's causing it at this point. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, if I'm following your question correctly, you're right. We did see stronger performance in our distributor markets in the quarter, which is both Latin America and some Asia Pacific markets. We did see a little bit of a softer demand side out of Europe. But again, I think it was mostly that we just saw much better demand out of some of these other markets. Brazil, as Juan Jose called out, was a very strong market for us. I didn't mention earlier, but the REI is another currency which we're exposed to from Brazil. So if I'm hearing your question, I think your observation is correct. We saw very strong demand in Latin America and some of our other distributor markets, and conversely, that overwhelmed some of the demand we saw in Europe and other places.
spk08: Thank you. At this time, we have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call back over to Juan Jose for any closing remarks.
spk03: Thank you for joining us on today's call. We look forward to providing our next quarterly update in November, and we wish everyone continued good health.
spk08: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a great day.
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