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spk09: Good afternoon. Welcome to Establishment Labs' first quarter 2024 earnings call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. At the end of this call, we will open up the line for question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Raj Dhanoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, Operator, and thank you, Erwin, for joining us. With me today is Juan Jose Chacon-Quirós, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These include statements on Establishment Lab's financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to view our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, as well as other SEC filings, which are available on our website at establishmentlabs.com. I'd also like to remind you that our comments may include certain non-GAAP financial measures with respect to our performance, including but not limited to sales results, which can be stated on a constant currency basis, or profitability of the company's business, which can be stated as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations through comparable GAAP financial measures for non-GAAP measures, if available, may be found in today's press release, which is available on our website. Please also note that Establishment Labs received an investigational device exemption from the FDA for Motiva implants and is undergoing a clinical trial to support regulatory approval in the United States. We continually seek to expand the geographies in which our products are regulatory approved. Please check with your local authority for product availability. The content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information accurate only as the date of this live broadcast, May 8th, 2024. Except as required by law, Establishal Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statement to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Juan Jose.
spk01: Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. Revenue in the first quarter of 2024 totaled $37.2 million. Our markets continue to stabilize. we are seeing improving demand all of our global regions showed sequential improvement in the first quarter we saw this in both our direct and distributor markets and we expect to see continued improvement throughout 2024. our first quarter also showed the tangible results of the cost reduction and efficiency improvement activities we undertook in the second half of last year adjusted EBITDA improved to a loss of less than four million dollars This was a notable improvement from the loss of $17 million last quarter. We are off to a busy start in 2024. Over the past several months, we launched Motiva implants in China and our Flora Tissue Expander in the United States. We are also making significant progress to our approval of Motiva implants in the United States. The number of clinics offering me around the world is growing exponentially. and the feedback on this transformative press technology continues to surpass even our own expectations. We are well-positioned for multi-year growth, while steadily improving our margin structure and achieving the necessary scale to reach cash flow profitability in 2025. Raj will provide more on our financial results and outlook in a moment, but first I want to highlight several recent events. Last week, we announced two important developments on our path to U.S. approval. The four-year data from our Motiva U.S. ID study was presented at the aesthetic meeting on May 2nd by Dr. Caroline Glixman, the medical director and a principal investigator of the study. As Dr. Glixman highlighted, it is particularly notable that our rates of Baker grade 3 and 4 capsule contracture and rupture have not changed for the past two years. At year four, there continues to be only two patients with capsular contracture and only one patient with a suspected rupture, which were the exact same numbers at two years and at three years. These low complication rates are a confirmation of a new standard for breast implants, and we expect plastic surgeons will adopt our products given their technological superiority and performance. While these are not comparative studies, It is worth noting that at four years, the FDA data from the two largest competitors in the U.S. showed that between one in seven and one in 12 women developed a Baker grade three or four capsular contracture. In the Motiva study, it was one in 200 women. We also announced last week that Jeff Earhart will lead our North American business. Jeff most recently ran the plastic and reconstruction division of Allergan Aesthetics and was responsible for the breast products portfolio. Jeff is a strong commercial leader with over 25 years of experience in this industry. I cannot imagine anyone better suited to introduce Motiva to the U.S. market. Jeff is already building an experienced team with a successful track record in this industry, including Ann Pugh, who will head our U.S. sales team, and Ben Newcott, who is Director of Surgeon Engagement and Business Development, will lead our outreach to the plastic surgeon community. This is truly an all-star team. At the annual meeting of the Aesthetic Society in Vancouver this past weekend, establishment labs in Motiva were the talk of the conference. Plastic surgeons are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about our new hires, and the launch of Motiva in the United States might be the most anticipated launch of an aesthetic product in decades. Surgeons and investor alike want to know when Motiva will be available in the United States. And while the second quarter inspection of our facilities is a critical point in the process, we will continue not to predict an exact timeline for both competitor and regulatory reasons. That said, the conversations with the FDA are highly constructive, and we have high confidence that we will be on market in 2024. While we wait for the approval of Motiva, Flora, our unique tissue expander continues to gain traction in the U.S. market. Flora has many important and novel features, including our patented smooth silk surface technology, as well as an RFID-enabled non-magnetic port that is labeled as MR conditional by the FDA. This is a distinct advantage to Flora, as all other commercially available breast tissue expanders include magnets. We had many surgeons come by our booth in Vancouver to learn about the advantages of FLORA in reconstruction, and we expect adoption of this technology will continue throughout the course of 2024. We have completed the VAC process at a number of the premier cancer centers in the United States, and more are pending. As the benefits of this device in breast reconstruction are being demonstrated and shared in the clinical community, the number of hospitals providing FLORA to patients will grow in the U.S. Mia Femtech is creating an entirely new minimally invasive category within breast aesthetics, and the list of cities across the world where Mia is available continues to grow. In Q1, we added Mia centers in two new geographies, Middle East and Latin America. We now have centers certified to provide the Mia experience in Riyadh, Jeddah, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Beirut, and our hometown of San Jose. In total, we have 55 clinics signed up for a MEA FEMTIC partnership, of which 33 are operating and 22 new clinics in the process of being onboarded for medical education and practice development. In addition, we have 37 clinics under negotiation. MEA consumers are sharing their experiences on social media, highlighting the convenience and aesthetic outcomes of their breath harmonization journey. confirming our conviction that word of mouth will ultimately be the biggest growth driver for Mia Femtech. It is still early in the launch of Mia, but we are seeing proof points that we are creating and capturing new consumer demand in this new category in breast aesthetics. In China, the reception of our recent launch has been strong. Chinese plastic surgeons and consumers have a strong appreciation for Motiva as the latest in innovation, science, and technology. and there is a willingness to pay a premium for such offerings in this market. Our exclusive distribution partner is pursuing an aggressive strategy of medical education and marketing events in Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities across China. The early results give us confidence that our market position in China over the next few years will match what we have seen in surrounding markets in Asia, where we are market leaders. I will now turn over the call to Raj.
spk04: Thank you, Juan Jose. Total revenue for the first quarter was $37.2 million, a decline of 20% from the year-ago period. Direct sales in the first quarter were approximately 39% of in-plant sales, while distributors made up the balance. From a regional perspective, sales in Europe, Middle East, and Africa were approximately 55% of the global total, Asia Pacific 21%, and Latin America 23%. Brazil, which is our largest market globally, accounted for approximately 11% of total quarterly sales. Our gross profit for the first quarter was $24.4 million, or 65.6% of revenue, compared to $30.1 million, or 64.7% of revenue, for the same period in 2023. Our gross profit in the first quarter reflected an increase in average selling prices year over year, offset somewhat by higher overhead and labor costs. Changes in foreign exchange rates between the U.S. dollar and the Costa Rican cologne also continued to be a headwind. As reported in U.S. dollars, the continued strengthening of the cologne has resulted in higher operating costs. SG&A expenses for the first quarter declined approximately $2.8 million to $28.9 million, compared to $31.7 million in the first quarter of 2023. SG&A expenses also declined approximately $8 million from the $36.9 million reported in the fourth quarter. R&D expenses for the first quarter declined approximately $2.2 million from the same quarter a year ago to $4.3 million, and were down $1.5 million sequentially. Total operating expenses for the first quarter with $33.2 million. The decrease of approximately $5 million from the year-ago period and declined approximately $9.5 million from the fourth quarter due primarily to cost reduction initiatives. The decrease in operating expenses in the first quarter was primarily the result of the cost reduction initiatives we undertook in the second half of 2023 and into 2024, as well as the timing of certain planned expenses this year. Net loss from operations for the first quarter was $8.8 million compared to a net loss of $8.2 million in the same period in 2023 and $22.1 million in the fourth quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $3.7 million in the quarter. This compared to a loss of $17.3 million in the fourth quarter and a loss of $4 million in the year-ago period. Our cash position on March 31st was $73 million compared to $40 million at the end of 2023. Excluding the proceeds from our January $50 million private placement, underlying cash use in the first quarter was $16.8 million. As a reminder, we have two remaining tranches on our debt facility, which total $50 million. We can access the first $25 million on U.S. FDA approval of Motiva implants, and the second with the additional milestone of achieving $195 million in trailing 12-month sales. For 2024, our revenue guidance continues to exclude the contribution of Motiva implants in the United States. Our guidance remains at $174 to $184 million, representing growth of 5% to 11%. We expect currency to have a minimal impact on our sales results this year. We continue to expect gross margins in 2024 to be approximately 100 basis points higher than 2023 to a range of 65.5% to 66%. The pacing of operating expenses this year is going to be fluid, given the timing of approval of Motiva implants in the U.S. Our increasing confidence in approval this year has led us to begin making some key hires and to begin limited activities to prepare for the launch. As such, we expect operating expenses will increase modestly from first quarter levels. We remain focused on managing operating expenses and cash use, and excluding investments in the U.S., we're targeting positive adjusted EBITDA by the end of 2024 and positive cash flow by the end of 2025. The timing of U.S. commercialization will affect when we achieve these targets. However, the additional capital which becomes available to us will more than fully support our current launch plans. Also, given the strong ASPs in the United States, our North American business achieves profitability very quickly. We are very focused on ensuring that the cash we currently have on hand, and which is accessible to us under our credit facility, will properly fund our business of profitability without the need for additional capital. I will now turn the call back to Juan Jose.
spk01: Thank you, Raj. 2024 is off to a very good start. We are seeing steady recovery in our markets and our differentiated technologies continue to support our progress globally. The work we did at the end of last year in restructuring and refocusing our organization is allowing us to invest in growth while we progress towards profitability. Our goals of being adjusted EBITDA positive by the end of the year and cash flow positive next year, excluding investments in the U.S., remain firmly intact. and they're a key focus for us as an organization and management team. Early this year, we entered China, the second largest market for our technologies globally. Flora is pushing us deeper into breast reconstruction while establishing a new standard of care. Our most recent family of implants, Ergonomics II, is supporting exciting new program offerings like Joy and, of course, Mia Femtech, which is creating an entirely new category in breast aesthetics and which will lead to real market expansion over time. The rest of the year will be even more exciting. The pending launch of Motiva in the United States is a culmination of years of work at establishment labs, and we cannot wait to introduce our story to women insurgents in the largest market in the world. As a company focused on women's health, we are building on a solid foundation and have a clear path to further establish ourselves as the leader globally in breast aesthetics and reconstruction. I will now turn the call over to the operator for your questions.
spk09: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Harrison Parsons with Stevens Inc. Please proceed.
spk06: Great. Hi, this is Harrison on for George. Good afternoon and thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to start with your underlying assumptions and your reiterated guidance. I know you, in the press release, spoke to market demand stabilizing. I just wanted to dig in on kind of what you're assuming from a macro perspective in that guidance.
spk04: Sure. Hi, Harrison. You know, as you saw in this quarter, we saw a nice sequential improvement over where we were in the fourth quarter. And as we move into the second quarter, we expect to see a similar level of improvement in demand. Generally, we're seeing distribute orders come back. The direct markets are doing a bit better. And so generally, you know, things are stabilizing. And so as we progress through the year, we expect that trend's going to continue. Yeah, so overall, we feel pretty good about where we are and how things are shaping up, and things are definitely getting better out there.
spk06: Great. Yeah, and then... I know you just touched on it, but wanted to dig in a little bit on what you're hearing from your international distributors. Where do you think their inventory levels sit today? I know obviously that's out of your control, but what are your expectations for those inventory levels going throughout the year? And is that going to be a headwind or a tailwind for the remainder? Thanks for the questions.
spk01: Yeah, what we hear from our distribution partners around the world is that demand is improving, and that's very much in all regions of the world. I think Latin America is probably lagger there. We don't expect demand there to come back as quickly as in the other regions. And as a result, of course, they're running through their inventories, and that's why they're ordering again. If you saw the pattern of distribution demand this quarter, it was back to what we consider more normalized levels at around the 60-40 percentage.
spk06: Great. That sounds good. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk09: Our next question is from Alan Gong with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed.
spk03: Thanks. So I just kind of want to dive deeper into, you know, direct markets, right? You talked about how it seems like trends are getting better. So when we think about, you know, the fact that you reiterated the guidance off of a quarter that at least relative to street expectations look a little bit better, how should we think about, you know, the kind of assumptions that get you to the bottom or higher end of that range?
spk04: Yeah, I think, Alan, you know, we're only really through one quarter of the year, right? And as we commented the last question, you know, things are feeling better, right? You can see it in the trends, the sequential improvement this quarter, you know, what we're talking about, a similar sequential improvement into the second quarter. You know, so in terms of the range, you know, at this point in the year, we feel it's a little early to be adjusting that. But overall, we're feeling pretty good about where we are and really trending towards the upper end of that range this year.
spk03: Got it. And then I guess just, you know, In anticipation of a U.S. launch later this year, can you talk to kind of the underlying health of the U.S. market? I know we're still kind of waiting for the societies to put out the volume data from 2023, but we saw that it really was bouncing around quite a bit during and in the wake of the pandemic. So can you just talk to the underlying health of the U.S. and how that positions you for a launch in the back half of the year? Thank you.
spk01: Yeah, thanks, Alan. So we were just at the American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery meeting in Vancouver. And we had the opportunity to talk about this with many plastic surgeons from all over the U.S. And I think they did see a significant dip down in the level of procedures last year. And what they have said is that they see an improvement taking place. It is, of course, not close to the... you know, like hype that they saw during the second part of the pandemic where they really saw, you know, above normal demand, you know, nearly all over the United States. But it is, you know, starting to normalize according to what we heard from them over last week.
spk09: Our next question is from Marie Siebel with BTIG. Please proceed.
spk08: Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions, and congrats on a very nice start to the year. Wanted to ask here, you know, with the U.S. approval expected this year, hoping we can get a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about the Salesforce build-out. You know, with Jeff in place, would love to hear a little bit about the go-to-market strategy. I know we'll have to wait to see some of the bigger spending and investment, but would really love to just hear about, you know,
spk01: potential range for how many sales reps and and you know that selling strategy that you're going to be targeting yeah thanks Marie well we have been investing in the US for quite some time we have been building the necessary foundation for the commercial organization especially you know the back office commercial ops and we are also leveraging leveraging a lot of the infrastructure we have built in in areas like HR, legal, finance, and regulatory from our global team. So that's been part of what we've done already, and you can see it already why we're invoicing and shipping flora tissue expanders to the U.S. Now, with having Jeff on board, I think it signals our conviction that we need to get prepared for the U.S. launch. And not only did we add Jeff, we also add Ann Pugh, who will head our U S sales team and Ben Newcott, who's like basically director of surgeon engagement and business development. You know, their combined experience in the U S market is, you know, I would say second to none. And with that, what we are building is this strong foundation for launch readiness. We are going to be very mindful of how we grow our Salesforce, but I think we're getting to the point where like that foundation, that commercial foundation is already there. And, you know, We've added a couple of sales reps already for the tissue expander, and we continue to add more in the next few months as we feel that we are getting closer and closer to the launch. For competitive reasons, I'm not going to share too much of the details, but definitely we are at a point where we are going to start building up that sales force.
spk08: Okay, that's great to hear. Thanks for that detail. And then wanted to ask my next question here on China. Any ability to offer more details on, you know, the amount of revenue recognized in China this quarter or how we should think about that over the year? Is it going sort of according to expectations? And where can you eventually see market share going to in China? And thanks for taking the questions.
spk04: Yeah, I can start with that, and JJ can talk a little bit about the market share. You know, we – I think as we've talked about China, right, as we move through 2023, what we expected in 23, we pushed into 2024. I can tell you that we are tracking to that. You know, China is developing as we expected. We're seeing demand. It is building. And so I can tell you that we're on track in terms of our plans in China. In terms of eventual market share and the size of that market, JJ, if you want to maybe take that.
spk01: Yeah, of course. So, you know, it's super early on. It's just been a few months since we launched in China. We're at this point basically hitting tier one and tier two cities with our events, medical education. So it's early, but you know, we have a very good, um, you know, experience in, in, in the blueprint that we have used in other countries in Asia and surrounding countries where you have a strong Chinese population. like Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong. And what we see is that they quickly realize that this is a superior technology. There's a willingness to pay. So we do expect our market share in the next few years to match some of the same leadership that we've seen in the surrounding countries where we have between 40% and 70% market share. In China right now, one of our competitors has 70% or more market share. So we have a very clear plan on how to go about that. And, um, definitely, you know, as we build on, on this, um, you know, initial launch activities, I think we'll be able to talk with more detail about, you know, how we are doing there.
spk09: Our next question is from Anthony Patron with Mizuho securities. Please proceed.
spk00: Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. So maybe one just on the process of the FDA inspection and how long that actually takes and what the range of turnaround time is. So just trying to get an idea of timing and how the actual process plays out. And then on China specifically, a follow-up question there would be just on the stimulus package that was announced in March. There are some other healthcare consumer-related companies that do see this as a potential catalyst into the second half of the year. So do you think China's stimulus could actually lead to upside as we get into the second half? Thanks again.
spk01: Yeah, well, thank you, Anthony. On the first one, last time we were able to speak openly about it, What we talked about is that, you know, the FDA had given us a date for Q2. I can tell you now that pre-approval inspection of our manufacturing facility in Costa Rica is scheduled to take place in less than 30 days. And our team is super well prepared and looking forward for it. In parallel, we have been making good progress with labeling and post-market approval studies. And these are the last significant steps before the FDA approval. So we are getting very close to the final stages on this. And we want just to be very mindful of not disrupting that process. And on China and the stimulus package, yes, we're very well aware of it. And we think it's a good development. You know, it will take time to get through so that it can really impact consumer demand. But, you know, we do see it as a positive. Remember, the lowest of the chinese market in breast aesthetics happening actually in 2022 and since then it's been you know bouncing back our expectation that is was that it was going to be back uh to 2019 levels by 2025 but maybe that stimulus package will be able to you know get us there faster thank you again our next question is from matt taylor with jeffries please proceed
spk05: Great, thanks for taking the question. Maybe I'll ask one on the MIA commentary that you gave. I mean, it's encouraging to see that you're signing up all these centers. I was wondering if you could, excuse me, talk about how material revenue contribution is going to be this year, and then maybe you could frame the centers that you're adding for MIA Femtech in terms of your overall centers. You know, what percentage is that today, and what do you think will be at maturity?
spk01: Yeah, I think with that one, Matt, at this point, what I tell you is that what we are trying to do at the qualitative level, which is create the network of clinics and within those clinics, start bringing in all of our marketing assets, the practice development, all the things that we provide so that you can have the new category really coming to light in there. I can see that some clinics who started, you know, in Europe, for instance, in September, October of last year, have started to get to the numbers where we would like to see them in terms of, you know, number of procedures per month. We still have work to do to see those numbers, you know, in every single one of the centers. But, you know, that's part of the, you know, entire process of building a new category. So we're not in a rush. However, I think that, you know, Having signed up 55 clinics already, 33 who are active right now. Of those, of course, the ones that have started in the fall of last year are the ones, of course, that are getting more cases at this point. In addition, we have 37 new clinics under negotiation. We have this aspirational goal of getting to 100 clinics by the end of this year. And I think after that, what our expectations are is that in every Tier 1 city, there will be a few of these clinics. In every Tier 2 city, there will be a couple of those. And in some Tier 3 cities, you'll see one. And when you start putting those numbers in and you start getting to the levels at which we see the initial clinics, I think we get an understanding of how quickly this can ramp up. But in 2024, it is mostly qualitative. but you will start seeing more revenue coming out of MIA. We are very dedicated to the qualitative part. It is not time yet to break out MIA revenue, but I think when it becomes material, we will be the first ones willing to do that.
spk05: Great. Thanks, JJ. Maybe just one follow-up on China. It seems like everything's going well there. I just wanted to confirm more specifically, you had talked about just the $10 million in stocking revenue kind of spread out through the first half of the year, and that was it for the guidance. Is that still your assumption, and are you seeing any reordering yet?
spk04: It's still early. As Juan Jose mentioned, I mean, we've been there, you know, just a couple of months now. We launched, you know, in January. So it is tracking as we expected to the numbers you described. You know, we'll see how the reordering starts to build in the back half of the year, but, you know, so far things are tracking.
spk05: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Rush.
spk09: Our next question is from Joanne Wendt with Citibank. Please proceed.
spk07: Thank you for taking the question. Very nice quarter. I appreciate the commentary on the guidance that it is early in the year, but you did exceed consensus. And I'm curious how you think about the next couple of quarters. I just want to make sure that the second, third, and fourth quarters are sort of set up appropriately.
spk04: Yeah, I think, Joanne, as we mentioned, you know, you look at the sequential increase, you know, in the first quarter over last quarter in about $6 million. You know, I think a similar sequential increase into the second quarter is the right way to think about it. You know, the back half of the year, you know, again, we'll see likely a small sequential increase in the third. It tends to be the weakest of the quarters for us as the year unfolds, but you have the dynamic of the recovery in the markets. And so, we'll see growth into the third quarter as well. You know, so generally it gets back to the commentary we made about this recovery that we're seeing, you know, in the markets, the distributor orders improving. You know, so I think that's probably a good way to think about it over the balance of the year.
spk07: Thank you. And then is there anything that you could share regarding your go-to-market strategy in the United States? I'm thinking pricing, number of salespeople you would need, or anything else that you're comfortable sharing at this stage of the process. Thank you.
spk01: Yeah, unfortunately, Joanne, it's, you know, for competitive reasons, this is exactly the type of things that we cannot give out. We have a very clear understanding of how we want to price in the United States. We are coming in with two products, you know, the Motiva Smooth Silk Round and the Motiva Smooth Silk Ergonomics. Those are, you know, some of our best-selling products in our international market and have been so for many years. You know, and we will make the necessary investments to make sure that, you know, we provide the accounts as we move into different quarters after the launch, you know, the necessary service that they deserve. So at this point, that's all I can tell you.
spk07: I appreciate that. Thank you.
spk09: Our final question is from Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Please proceed.
spk02: Hi, good afternoon. Thanks a lot. I was hoping to follow up on Mia first and just in the past, I want to say your team has talked about your MIA partner clinics becoming million-dollar revenue generators for establishment labs. I mean, it sounds like these early launch trends are positive, but to get to that million-dollar per account, you had some relatively conservative assumptions. I just wanted to sanity check, make sure that your team is still optimistic that that revenue run rate per partner clinic is still in play potentially.
spk01: Yes, thank you, Josh. In the direct market, a MEA clinic that is doing an average for a year 24 cases per month will eventually lead to approximately a million dollars that is recognized by establishment labs. We think that number is achievable. Like I said, you know, a couple of the clinics that began last fall are starting to trend to those numbers. So that's what gives us a conviction that those numbers can be achieved. And our job now is to expand the network of clinics to cities, for instance, across our direct markets in Europe. Some of the distributor markets have already kicked in. You can see in the social media handle of MiaFemTech a lot of the work that has been done, for instance, to launch in several cities across the Middle East. So all of that tells you that we are building something special. And when you think about the current market for breast aesthetics, it's a market that is growing at low single digits at best. And what Mia brings is this new shiny object. And what we see is that those numbers are not something that we see as unachievable. And what we would like to see is that clinics in the first or second year depending on them being Tier 1 or Tier 2 CT clinics, can get there.
spk02: Great. And I appreciate some of the color on the U.S. Flora launch. I was hoping to just check in on the state of affairs of the Recon franchise internationally, both on the tissue expander side and on the implant side. Any updates you can provide just on traction there in Europe and other regions? Thanks for taking the questions.
spk01: Yeah. On that one, Josh, again, I think what we've said many times is that breast reconstruction is slower because you're not really convincing just a plastic surgeon. You have to convince the plastic surgeons of a reconstructive department in a hospital and then wait for a tender to take place. So that's why, although we see great feedback from the hospitals who have adopted breast you know, flora and who have started to use with flora, our breast implants, you know, still, you know, not going at the same speed of adoption that we normally see when we go into a market on purely aesthetics. However, you know, over time it will build. And I think it's, it's a big demonstration of our technology and our, you know, women's health credentials in this industry. Appreciate that. Thanks.
spk09: That is all the time we have for questions today. I will now turn the call back over to Juan Jose for closing remarks.
spk01: Thank you for joining us on today's call. We look forward to providing our next quarterly update in August, and we wish everyone continued good health and happiness.
spk09: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.
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