2/24/2026

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Diamondback Energy's fourth quarter 2025 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Adam Lawless. Please go ahead.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Corey. Good morning, and welcome to Diamondback Energy's fourth quarter 2025 conference call. During our call today, we will reference an updated investor presentation and letter to stockholders, which can be found on Diamondback's website. Representing Diamondback today are Case Van Hoff, CEO, Danny Weston, COO, Jerry Thompson, CFO, and Al Bargwin, Chief Engineer. During this conference call, the participants may make certain forward-looking statements relating to the company's financial condition, results of operations, plans, objectives, future performance, and businesses. We caution you that actual results could differ materially from those that are indicated in these forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors. Information concerning these factors can be found in the company's filings with the SEC. In addition, we will make reference to certain non-GAAP measures. The reconciliations with the appropriate GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release issued yesterday afternoon. I'm now turning the call over to Case. Thanks, Adam. Welcome, everyone, to the fourth quarter earnings call. As usual, we will open up the line for questions. I hope everybody read the letter last night, a lot of good detail in there, and we look forward to discussing. So, operator, please open the line for questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Neil Mehta of Goldman Sachs. Neil, your line is open.

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Neil Mehta
Goldman Sachs Analyst

Good morning, Case and team. Thank you for jumping right into it. And no surprise, the area we want to dig into here is the Barnett case and just talk about You know, what you think the opportunity set is, you are deploying more capital here in 2026. You know, how you think about the potential returns associated with it and just the mix as well between oil and gas?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Neil, I'll give you some high-level thoughts and then turn it over to Al. But, you know, it's a pretty exciting reveal of, you know, our position in the Barnett. You know, that's a position that you know, was essentially almost zero acres a couple years ago. We were able to, you know, grow that position without, you know, cap raises or press releases or buying the next, you know, private equity backed entity. So, you know, I think overall, you know, being able to build a position in our backyard that we understand very, very well is going to be very, you know, good for our shareholders long term and good for corporate returns long term. You know, we're not having to pay, you you know, three, four, five, six million dollars a stick to build this position. And, you know, that's a testament to the team having belief in, you know, the rock. And now that we've put the drill bit in the rock, you know, we've found that, you know, the returns, you know, look very good from a productivity standpoint. The next step is we have to get the cost down. You know, we haven't really moved to full field development. You know, that's going to start here in the second half of 2026. in earnest and pick up in the coming years. So I think it's a good time for us to reveal what we have. We're not done yet, but wanted to show our investors what we've been up to. And that resource expansion is an important part of our overall story. I'm going to turn it over to Al for some details and what he's found from a technical perspective.

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, Neil. Look at slide 12 here in the deck. You can see we've shown the performance of our 2025 Barnett plan here relative to our core development plan. And I think the performance really stands out and speaks for itself. And, you know, I think when we're able to get the cost down, you know, 20%, kind of from where we are with our delineation wells here, we think these returns are going to be competitive. So we're pretty excited about the potential here, 900 gross locations, and I think we'll be allocating capital to the plan more going forward.

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Neil Mehta
Goldman Sachs Analyst

Yeah, and that's a good follow-up, which is just talk about the product mix here. On slide 12, you show that there is more gas that comes out of the Barnett, but actually there's potentially more oil as well. So it's probably a little oilier than some of us would have thought. Just talk about how you're thinking about making sure that you're maximizing the liquids cut out of these barrels.

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, I think just looking at the absolute oil production – You know, you can see that's even differential, right? And that's what we've got in the plot. The initial GORs are higher, right? So, you know, kind of in the 3,000 range. I think kind of what's striking when you compare the six-month QM oil and VOEs to the 12-month, kind of see a flatter GOR profile, right, through the year, especially relative to the core GORs. So the GOR profile in the core zones kind of ramps up a little faster, and we're seeing a much flatter GOR profile through the 12-month period. So where your core zone is like 80% oil for that first six months, it goes down to about 75% oil. The Barnett plan that we're showing here is 67% basically flat for the first 12 months. A little different profile on the product mix, but overall I think the oil productivity speaks for itself and is very competitive once we get the returns where we see them going.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Neil, one thing I'd add is whether the timing is planned or not, we do have a Permian Basin that's going to have a lot of gas takeaway coming on in the 2027 to 2030 timeframe. You know, we're going to have to drill a lot of Barnett wells over that time period. The Barnett's a different type of lease. It's not held by, you know, vertical production or production in the core zone. So, you know, we've got a lot of drilling to do. But, you know, getting a good price for our gas and our liquids, you know, is going to be a benefit to returns in the 2027 plus timeframe.

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Operator
Conference Operator

All right.

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Neil Mehta
Goldman Sachs Analyst

Thanks, Keith.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next call comes from the line of Gabrielle Cerny of William Blair Equity Research. Gabrielle, your line is open. Okay, this is Neil.

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Gabrielle Cerny
William Blair Equity Research Analyst

Hey, sticking with the Barnett, can you talk about the well economics there versus the Midland Basin? I guess what I'm getting at is I'm looking at slide 12. It shows that your Barnett wells, you're talking about kind of a 36 MBOE per thousand foot 12-month QM versus 22 for the core midland. You talked about maybe the $100 per lateral foot barnet versus what are you down to, I think, $550 for the midland cost. So curious how you're thinking about total returns barnet versus the midland average.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, why don't I hit the high level and let Danny talk about how we're going to get the cost down. You know, we You know, high-level, our core midland development, which I would put as, you know, everything except the Wolf Camp D is, you know, close to about 510, 520 a foot. If we can get – and the Barnett, you know, today is at $1,000 a foot. If we can get the Barnett down to $800 a foot and, you know, and the Barnett, you know, oil production is 60% better on a first-year cume than the core – then the returns start to get competitive. And I think we're fortunate that the rock has been proven first, and then the costs will need to come down. But Danny has a few examples of how we're going to do that.

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the cost reductions we're targeting are really just a decision to move to the kind of development mode and apply the techniques we've learned over the years developing what we call the Midland Core with multi-well pad development, simulfrac, and those things are really just a decision to go to that full-scale development and see those cost savings accrue to the Barnett development as well. On the drilling side, we've been pretty conservative in the drilling plan we've laid out into delineation wells, really just targeting successful wellbores. We have a lot of things we think we can apply in the drilling plans that we can cut a lot of cost out of the drilling part of the well. And also, we think the barnet, the leasehold we've established in the barnet sets itself up well for extended lateral development. You know, we're kind of targeting, you know, 15,000-foot laterals in the barnet. You know, it won't be everywhere, but we hope the majority of the wells that we drill in that zone will be extended link laterals, 15,000-plus foot, which will also help drive down that per-foot cost.

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Gabrielle Cerny
William Blair Equity Research Analyst

Great details. And then just secondly, Case, my second is on inventory and By the way, thanks for disclosing. I don't think versus any other companies have this kind of similar details around that. But I'm wondering, could you just address, maybe talk about inventory replenishment and reinvestment in your existing asset base? Is it, you know, periods when you add the Barnett to your total drilled feet, year over year only decreased minimally. So I'm just wondering how you're thinking about inventory replenishment and reinvesting going forward.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, listen, we're in a depleting business, right? And we think about inventory every day. Diamondback was a company that went public with very little inventory and had to work for every stick that we added over the last 15 years. So it's something that's top of mind for me, for the team. If you look at the inventory disclosure we put out, the team did a very good job increasing average lateral lengths last year, you know, up by about 600 lateral feet on average, which is a big number on a big company. And, you know, I think, you know, we're going to continue to try to add inventory where we can. You know, if you notice, like I said earlier, you know, all this inventory was added and, you know, put in the plan without, you know, needing outside capital or press releases all while still returning a ton of cash back to shareholders. So I think, you know, you should expect that to continue. I think we kind of have a philosophy here that, you know, no deal on inventory in the Midland Basin should leave Midland or leave Diamondback without us taking a look at it. So, you know, we're highly focused on continuing to replenish our inventory. We recognize that it's not infinite, but I think, you know, we have a plan to continue to grow it.

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Gabrielle Cerny
William Blair Equity Research Analyst

Perfect.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks, buddy. Thank you very much. Our next call comes from the line of Jeffrey Lambougeon, of TPH and Company. Jeffrey, your line is open.

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Jeffrey Lambougeon
TPH & Company Analyst

Good morning, case and team, and thanks for taking my questions. My first one means to hit on the implications from some of the Barnett disclosure while also still keeping in mind legacy Midland Core operations. You know, we took note of the strong oil cubes from both data sets. in the slide as you guys have spoken to already, and obviously the productivity for the Barnett looks strong as well on an absolute basis. So as you think about that, we were hoping you could speak to your outlook for corporate oil mix over time as you continue to develop your Midland Basin core inventory and work in more Barnett Woodford over time as well.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, you know, it's funny, Jeff. You know, we have a $3.75 billion budget and $1.50 is allocated to the Barnett, but it's getting all the airtime. But, you know, that's the market we live in. I think that means that investors trust the inventory that we have in the core and they trust that, you know, we have enough of it. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, what the teams are doing on the core inventory, you know, the vast majority of our budget is very, very impressive. You know, lateral links are up year over year. Productivity, you know, in a world where productivity is being questioned on a per foot basis, in many basins, you know, the team was able to, you know, increase productivity in 2025 versus 2024 on the oil side. And that just means we're continuing to test things in terms of stage length, stage designs, where we're putting the drill bit, spacing, all the zones that we're developing, and the results kind of speak for themselves. I think generally with the Barnett becoming a bigger piece of the capital pie, oil mix will go down over time, which is why we've tried to focus more and more on our gas marketing strategy and getting better realizations on that front because I think it can really help

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Jeffrey Lambougeon
TPH & Company Analyst

know overall free cash and corporate returns you know kind of after these pipes come on in the back half of 2026. perfect that's that's very helpful and then for my second question i actually wanted to revisit something that's also not yet uh factored super meaningfully into guidance at least for now but is also exciting to think about which is the hyper stealer and data center opportunity that you've spoken to in past quarters and on past calls and how Diamondback really offers the full suite of what a counterparty there would be looking for in terms of the surface acreage over the last year, you know, the water supply potential, especially thinking about deep blue and of course, you know, gas or power from your upstream business. So I wonder if we could just get a refresh on how discussions are progressing there and how you're thinking about those opportunities in general.

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Jerry Thompson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Jerry's going to take that one. Yeah. More to Jeff. You're exactly right. I mean, we continue to be excited about the opportunity as we feel we have all the pieces for a very compelling project. And we're making progress on bringing data centers, you know, onto our surface position. You know, I think if you think about Diamondback specifically, the biggest benefit here is our ability to structure a power purchase agreement that provides for material uplift to net gas pricing. So just another creative tool in the toolbox for us as we are thinking about, you know, improving natural gas realizations, which we obviously highlighted in the deck and Case alluded to earlier. So a new meaningful embrace and egress solution for us. So we continue to make progress. We're excited about the opportunity. And when we have more to discuss publicly, we'll definitely do so.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think the one thing I'd add there, Jeff, is, you know, we're not going to announce anything until it's completely binding and we can talk to our investors about what it means for them. You know, there's been a lot of noise in this space. I still continue to believe, you know, given our size and scale and expertise in the basin, we offer the full package and conversations have improved. But, you know, we're not going to talk about it in detail until we have those details. But it's a great question.

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Arun Jayaram
JP Morgan Securities Analyst

Perfect.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Appreciate that. Thank you. Our next call comes from the line of Philip Jungworth from BNMU. Philip, your line is open.

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Philip Jungworth
BNMU Analyst

Yeah, thanks. I'll also give the Barnett more airtime here. I appreciate you bringing resource expansion back to the NP sector. So the Midland Basin is obviously a large area. I was just hoping you could talk about how you see Barnett variability across either your or other operator wells across the northwestern side of the basin versus southeast. And why do you think your Barnett well productivity has outperformed the industry to such an extent?

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, you know, I think the big distinction that we kind of see when you look at the map on slide 12 here, the wells that are to the western side of the basin and actually up on the central basin platform which is really where the play began back in kind of the late 2010s, that has lower maturity, so more within the oil window, but that comes along with lower bottom-hole pressures. And so what we've seen in terms of 30-day IPs and six-month cubes is the well-performance And that area where the play kind of kicked off is not as strong and robust as when you kind of move down into the basin and you've got higher bottom hole pressures and you've got more gas in the system, so you're getting higher initial rates. And, yeah, I think the variability in GOR, we're still kind of delineating around the basin, especially as you move to the east. and to the south, and so there is going to be variability in GOR. But I think one of the things that we really focused on from a technical standpoint is where can we find the best resource, the biggest resource, and then the potential to drain potentially the Barnett and the Woodford reservoirs with a single well bore, and we believe we've put together a really strong position in the best resource quality within the basin.

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Philip Jungworth
BNMU Analyst

That's great. And then you called out Diamondback having nearly two decades of inventory at its 2026 pace. Last year, there was a lot of talk about Pete Permian, who has inventory to grow, who doesn't. But for Diamondback, assuming a green light scenario, just how do you think about a sustainable growth rate that can be achieved for the company over a multi-year period, given the depth of resource you have?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that's highly dependent on the macro. But, you know, in general, it feels like investors, you know, over time are you know, want some form of growth. Now we've done it on a per share basis for the last few years. At some point, you know, organic growth is going to come into the equation. You know, unfortunately, we're still stuck in this yellow light and this stoplight analogy that we can't shake yet. But, you know, I think there's probably a world where if we can efficiently allocate capital and growth becomes kind of the output, you know, that's probably a good decision. I think for 2026, you know, we're starting the year here, you know, still in this kind of quasi-yellow light where, you know, oil production is the input and then CapEx will be you know, reduced if things go well and then held steady if things, you know, go as planned. But, you know, there could be a world where we hold CapEx flat and see what growth, you know, comes out of it. But, you know, that day is not today, but there will be a time, and that's why, you know, every day we think about inventory, inventory duration, inventory growth, and, you know, things like the Barnett, which is getting a lot of airtime today, you know, are accretive to that long-term duration story.

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Kaylee Ackermine
Bank of America Analyst

Thanks, guys.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Arun Jayaram from JP Morgan Securities. Arun, your line is open.

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Arun Jayaram
JP Morgan Securities Analyst

Good morning, gentlemen. I also have a follow-up on the Barnett. Yeah, just a follow-up on the Barnett. Looking at the 12-month CUNE plot on slide 12, it looks like the the average well is delivering just under 50 percent more oil uh cuts or a mix um over the the first 12 months of the of the well i just wanted to see if you could comment on your thoughts on what the barnett would do for your oil um you know in terms of oil growth over time because that's been just a question we've been getting just because there is a little bit higher gas you're getting, but the oil cut is higher than that. And if we could maybe translate that into an oil EUR for an average well based on your test so far.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'll let Al give the EUR commentary. I think the one thing I would say, you know, if you start to run these wells at $800 a foot or close to it, you know, the rate of return relative to the base plan looks very comparable, but the PV is significantly larger. So we look at both of those things, PV and rate of return, and try to find a nice balance there. But the key here is getting these costs down. It makes the returns competitive, particularly in areas with viper minerals. But then the PV impact is huge. So from an NAV perspective, that's very positive. Now I'll turn it over to Al for some type curve commentary.

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, Arun, so, you know, that 50% uplift that you kind of see at the 12-month timeframe, that roughly equates to the uplift that we see relative to the core zones on an EUR basis. So, you think about our core zones, those are about 50 VO a foot in the Midland Basin. in the Barnett. We think we're pretty close to about 75 VO a foot for the ultimate recovery for those wells.

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Arun Jayaram
JP Morgan Securities Analyst

That's helpful, Al. Just on my follow-up, I was wondering, Pace, in your shareholder letter, you mentioned how the company was testing for surfactants. And just give us a sense of how those pilot projects are going. Are you using surfactants in terms of your base production management? Are you testing those in terms of new completion activity? But give us a sense of what you're seeing thus far and how you're using those in terms of your development scheme.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, you know, it's early in the surfactant game, but it's exciting. We did a 60-well test in the second half of last year, you know, credit to the team to mobilize that quickly. You know, this went from an idea in June to execution by December, and we got a lot of data coming in, you know, from those tests. You know, we focused on the production side for now so that we can, you know, try to figure out which variables are working. I do think, you know, there's been some discussion about adding this to the front end on your completion. I think we're going to test that, but we're also going to continue to test the production side of the business. From a high-level perspective, in my mind, this was something that no one talked about outside of papers, SPE papers, four or five years ago, and now it's becoming something that can potentially be economic. I think that is why we put in our last shareholder letter, you know, never underestimate the American engineer, because there's still a lot of oil in the ground in the Midland Basin and the Permian Basin that needs to be extracted. It just needs to be extracted economically, and that's what we're working on today. So, Al, you want to talk about the tests?

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah. So, like Case was saying, we trialed 60 treatments kind of in the back half of 2025. A lot of lab work and technical work going into designing the surfactant for the specific rock types and the specific surfactant types that we're using. It's pretty early on in the results, but we've seen at least in a handful of the DSUs that we've applied this to some really exciting results. So the team is taking that information and going back, refining the chemical makeup there and the design of the test, and really trying to hone in on the variables that are driving the performance for the program.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think this is all just gravy, right? This is all added production, added reserves to something that you know, we didn't think was possible a few years ago. And I'd say this is V1.0, right? This is what Wolf Camp V-PRAX looked like in 2014. So, you know, I think we got – you look how far we've come in 10 years. And, again, you know, this is a highly technical organization that's going to work to figure some of this stuff out.

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Arun Jayaram
JP Morgan Securities Analyst

Great. Thanks, Case and team. Thanks, Aaron.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Brackett from Bernstein Research. Bob, your line is open.

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Bob Brackett
Bernstein Research Analyst

Good morning, and I'm going to have to go back to the Barnett just because it seems to be the flavor of the day. If I compare your typical well, it's less than 600 bucks a foot. You've got a path for the Barnett to get from 1,000 bucks a foot to 800 bucks a foot. But, you know, the top of the Wolf Camp versus the top of the Barnett are a couple thousand feet apart, so not a whole lot of vertical depth. what's stymieing the drilling down there, or is it on the completion side where those incremental costs are coming from, and what are some potential solutions?

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, hey, Bob, thanks for asking. You know, it's really just a different resource altogether, and, you know, we've got to set up a drilling program that's, you know, a little bit different than what we do in the Midland Basin Core, you know, the Barnett, We're using oil-based mud. There's an extra string of pipe in the vertical portion of the hole. And all that we've been doing, as I alluded to earlier, to de-risk any kind of operational issue as we were delineating this play. And I expect we're going to continue to be a little bit more conservative as we roll into development mode on the drilling side. But we'll start doing things that we know through calculated risks we can do to cut costs out of those wellbores. On the completion side, too, there's some additional costs there. The jobs are a little bigger. We're targeting four wells a section in the barnet, so we're pumping larger jobs to try and generate a larger simulated rock volume across those four wells. We've been only doing one or two well pads, so a lot of single well or zipper fracks. And as we move into development, we're going to move into, you know, full-scale four-well pad development or eight-well pad development on the Barnett and utilize simulFRAC, continuous pumping, the things that we've learned from our development in the Midland Basin Core over the years.

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Bob Brackett
Bernstein Research Analyst

That's all very clear. Quick follow-up, if I could. One of your peers talked last week about international opportunities. I'm curious, where do international opportunities sit on your list of strategic priorities?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Bob, I mean, it's certainly low from a strategic perspective. I would say, you know, a company of our size should start to understand what else is out there around the world and really for the main reason of, you know, what else around the world could push us out on the global cost curve. And, you know, we've spent a lot of time studying that. Obviously, there's different dynamics above ground and below ground around the world. And I think what's What that's taught us is we have a very, very good long-duration inventory in the Permian Basin. Now there's things like the Barnet and surfactants and all that kind of stuff that we're going to be talking about a lot over the next three to five years. That just kind of points me back towards staying home. The Permian Basin has been very good to Diamondback, growing our position here. You know, we're basin experts, and, you know, there may be good rock around the world, but there's a lot of other issues that, you know, that come with that rock. So, you know, we've learned a lot about what's out there, but, you know, there's not a lot of action that we're focused on today.

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Bob Brackett
Bernstein Research Analyst

Very clear. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Freeman of Raymond James. John, your line is open.

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John Freeman
Raymond James Analyst

Good morning. Thank you. Y'all had a really nice improvement in your leading edge completed feet per day at 4,500. Just maybe some thoughts on what's sort of embedded in the 26 plan and just where y'all see that potentially getting to by year end.

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Hey, John, thanks for asking. Yeah, I mean, the core program still continues to really shine. And Case put some commentary in his shareholder letter around, you know, some of the continued efficiency improvement we're seeing on the drilling side and the completion side. And, you know, on the completion side, the team's been working on implementing what they call continuous pumping across all of our Simulfrac E-Fleets and And really what that means is we just don't shut down between swapping wells in the Somofrac pad. And we've been averaging 4,500-ish feet a day on those continuous pumping fleets, but we've seen some results above 5,500 feet per day. So we're encouraged by that. We think we still have opportunities to reduce our cycle times. this year and, you know, if that comes to reality, we're going to be able to, you know, get rid of some frac crews and be able to, you know, hopefully complete less wells in the year to achieve, you know, our production targets.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

You know, I think one thing I'd add, John, that we're kind of finding out, you know, we're really starting to test different stage lengths, stage designs, frac designs, and what continuous pumping does is it removes the biggest piece of non-productive time to swapping between your stages. So, you know, we're going to test shorter stages. We're able to do that with, you know, less cost. I mean, all these things are little wins that, you know, accrue to our shareholders. And, you know, you think, hey, continuous pumping, it's one thing to do more lateral feet, but what are all the other tangential benefits that are now starting to show their face? And that's what's exciting there, too.

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John Freeman
Raymond James Analyst

That's really helpful. And then just my follow-up, you know, tariffs have been pretty topical of late. Have you all secured or maybe locked in the pricing on y'all's steel-related products for the 26 program?

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

The way our procurement agreements work on the, you know, casing side of things, it's kind of a repricing quarterly. You know, with the tariff ruling that was just announced last week, We're not sure how much impact that's going to have on OCTG because that flows through a different law as far as tariffs go. We reprice our casing every quarter based on an index price with our supplier. On the tubular goods... We do procure those things out in longer lead times if we feel like we've got an opportunity to secure some at a beneficial price. We kind of watch that market and just make those decisions based on where we think the market's headed. The tubing side of things have been pretty sticky, even through the tariff world. Really, the inflation we've seen has been on the casing side of things, and And unless we get some other tariff relief on, I think it's Section 232, then we don't think those tariff-related inflationary impacts are going to go away. We're just really waiting on or looking to see what activity does in North America to drive casing prices one way or the other.

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John Freeman
Raymond James Analyst

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield of Texas Capital. Derek, your line is open.

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Derek Whitfield
Texas Capital Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, all, and congrats on a strong year end. Thanks, Derek. I wanted to start with surfactants. From my understanding, the capital efficiency on using surfactants in your workovers is quite exceptional. Could you perhaps elaborate on the degree of uplift you're seeing in production on average for dollars spent? And separately, on the new well side, understanding you guys are very early in the process, but maybe could you speak about it from the data you're seeing from VIPER that would suggest that you are seeing an uplift in the URs on new wells?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I don't know if we're seeing enough yet at VIPER to make that distinction. We don't have all of the private data on designs and what got pumped, but I think if we start to see overall productivity improvements from peers, we spend a lot of time trying to study that and say, what can we do better? The thing I would say about our surfactant tests, tested 60 wells, they're fairly cheap jobs, about a half a million dollars, and I think we can work those down. What we did was we did the jobs when we had to pull the ESP anyways, so you're having to, you have some sunk costs and then you just pump some surfactant in water and listen, we don't even know how much of the well bore we're touching today, but some of the results are significant. I mean, some of the, you know, multi hundreds of barrels a day uplift from a well that's producing a couple hundred barrels a day. I'd say, you know, on average, you know, we've seen about an average of about 100 barrels a day pop, which for half a million dollars is a high-returning project. I think we've got to get smarter on it. We're going to keep testing it. And I think over time, as we refine that analysis, it's going to become a part of our overall development plan and the lifecycle of these wells. So that's how I see it today. I look forward to You know, all of the advancements that the teams are going to make, you know, we've made a lot in a short period of time, and there's going to be a lot to come in the next couple of years.

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Derek Whitfield
Texas Capital Analyst

Great. And maybe staying on the resource expansion theme, but giving you guys a breather on the Midland Basin side, there's been a lot of buzz from ministry on both the Barnett and Woodford and the Delaware. While I realize that EOG is chasing a different Woodford concept than PECUS, I'd love your take on the view of that interval and your position over in Pecos.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

I think generally, you know, we've been following it. It's going to be more expensive than, you know, than the Midland Basin Barnett even. You know, I kind of equate the Midland Basin Barnett to kind of core Delaware type costs, and this is below that. You know, there's been people poking around Barnett and Woodford and the Delaware now for decades. seven or eight years, you know, I don't think we're ready to begin a big program in the Delaware on our position. But, you know, with the VIPER map being as consolidated as it is on the Delaware side, we're going to learn a lot about it as people try to test it.

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Derek Whitfield
Texas Capital Analyst

Great update. Thanks for your time.

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Charles Mead

Thanks, Derek.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Kaylee Ackermine from Bank of America. Kaylee, your line's open.

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Kaylee Ackermine
Bank of America Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. With respect to the 26th guide here, the disclosures have been simplified. Just kind of wondering if you can talk about the number of targeted drills until it's expected this year, the duck backlog that supports that program, and then what kind of conservatism has been baked into the volume, noting that surfactants and barnets are kind of new efforts you're contributing?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

We try to simplify our disclosure to say here's the amount of lateral feet we completed or plan to complete. If we do better than midpoint or towards the low end, that means we have high capital efficiency. I think our transparency and disclosure is still best in class. We certainly have a solid duck backlog that we can push or pull on depending on the macro, but I think that's going to be a management decision. Right now, the base case is just to kind of hold it flat. One thing I'll say about the 2026 CapEx guide, we're kind of guiding towards the lower end of that quarterly average in the first quarter, and I think we expect the same to be for the second quarter. As we get to the back half of the year, I think some of these things that we are talking about a lot today, the Barnett surfactants, Barnett well costs, if those things start to trend our direction, then I think there's a world where CapEx comes down this year. That's just not something, I think, given our history of conservatism, we want to keep put out as fact today. So I think there's some goals to be set for the teams, and we're already well on our way to achieving them, but I just don't think they're going to run through guidance yet.

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Kaylee Ackermine
Bank of America Analyst

I guess the follow-up there is just on the number of drills contemplated. And then the second question is just on the working interest in the Barnett. 64% is the lowest in your stack. Wondering if you could talk about any opportunities to increase that interest, whether that's organic leasing, or maybe it's inorganic, understanding that the rights could be in somebody else's hands, and whether that could be achieved via acreage swap, which contributes very meaningfully to this inventory update.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

On the working interest side, we're always looking to increase working interest. We've built this position through a few partnerships where our working interest is lower than it traditionally has been, but that doesn't mean there's not opportunities to grow it. you know, the position had to be built organically and that means usually after that's built, you start to work on swaps and trades and netting up and all, you know, buying minerals and all the things that we do to add value around the base business. You know, on your second question, you know, the model doesn't show us, you know, drawing or building a meaningful amount of ducts this year and, you know, I think we're still going to post how many wells we drill and complete every quarter, but I think, you know, if you think about last year, we ended up drilling more wells and completing less wells than we originally expected, and, you know, what the duck discussion became a discussion that, you know, got more airplay than it deserved.

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Kaylee Ackermine
Bank of America Analyst

That's very helpful. Thank you, Keith.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Kevin, your line is open.

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Kevin McCurdy
Pickering Energy Partners Analyst

Hey, good morning. I guess for my first question, I'll just hit on OPEX. We saw lower OPEX as a partial driver of the EVA to BEAT and 4Q, but guidance, you know, 2026 guidance is for a small increase for both LOE and GP&T. And I wonder if you could address those, you know, is that just the water drop down on LOE and gas transportation contracts on GP&T or is there anything else in there?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's most of it, Kevin. You know, we sold the EDS system to DFLU and in fourth quarter, so you saw LOE tick up a little bit. I think, you know, we got a couple things as headwinds this year on LOE. You know, power prices in the basin have gone up, so we got some power that is now unhedged that's going to be you know priced at a higher number that's you know probably a dime or two of hurt and then you know we're we're continuing to spend more and more dollars on on workovers you know plugging and abandoning vertical wells you know making sure our asset base is um uh you know in good condition on on that front so those are the couple headwinds um on the gpt side you know most of that's your traditional escalators on

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Kevin McCurdy
Pickering Energy Partners Analyst

on cpi but also you know more barrels or sorry more molecules being taken in kind and so you're shifting uh dollars from realizations to uh to gpt great and maybe um to ask one more clarification question on the barnett um will there be a separate rig dedicated to that program and and just to confirm will those wells be geographically separate from you know your cube development

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

It really just depends. I mean, there will be separate rig lines that we have dedicated to the Barnett. I think it probably makes sense that those rigs just focus on that type of development. But, you know, there's areas like Spanish Trail where we have 100% of the minerals and high working interest that, you know, we're going to be, you know, in the same area as our shallow development. And then there's areas where we don't have it. I think, you know, Overall though, we're going to continue to build a position and try to share facilities wherever we can because that's the most efficient form of capital use.

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

I'll just add, I think with the Barnett's depth and with some of the mud properties and such that we'll be utilizing to drill those wells, it'll probably be a different rig package that we're looking at. Those rigs can certainly drill the Midland Basin core, but we're probably looking at a little bit upgraded rig package for those wells. Ideally, we'll have them all on separate rig lines that we may mix in some of our Midland Basin core with. If we can get days down on the Barnett drilling, we'll mix in more of our core development and probably have less Barnett-directed rigs. in particular at the end of the year.

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Kevin McCurdy
Pickering Energy Partners Analyst

Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks, guys. Thank you. Our next call comes from the line of Doug Leggett from Wolf Research. Doug, your line is open.

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Doug Leggett
Wolfe Research Analyst

Good morning, guys. I wonder if I could follow up on the last question about the mix of Barnett versus the base business. It seems there's obviously an HBP requirement here given the relatively new acreage. And I guess the core of my question is the type curve you've shown for the Barnett is presumably a parent well versus a development type curve for the cube development elsewhere. So how do you expect that development type curve to evolve relative to the base business?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, I think we'll see, Doug. You know, I think we're spacing these wells pretty wide. You know, we have done a few two-well pairs, and, you know, we'll still see what a full-section development looks like. But I think in general, you know, the size of the job, you know, and the spacing that we're assuming, you know, should result in, you know, pretty consistent performance. You know, listen, I'm not going to tell you that Every well has been the best well we've ever drilled, but there are a couple in that data set that are probably the highest six-month cumes we've ever had at Diamondback. So I think we're putting the bet on ourselves to continue to improve results and get costs down, and that's a good bet.

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Doug Leggett
Wolfe Research Analyst

Well, obviously, it's early days, but thanks for the color. My follow-up is on the inventory question. I know there's no precision here, but I want to understand what you're intention is in talking about 20 years is is that a you know a kind of consistent um weighted average well quality is it maintaining production mix or or more importantly is it maintaining free cash flow how how are you how would you do you want us to interpret that 20-year comment listen i think you know not all inventory is created equal right the best and if we're doing our job right we're drawing the best stuff first

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

And, you know, I think you see that throughout the space where, you know, productivity per foot, which is how we look at it, you know, is starting to degrade depending on the company. And, you know, our job is to have the best productivity per foot the longest. And, you know, I think you've seen us add in zones like the upper sprayberry, like the Wolf Camp D, you know, even five years ago, the middle sprayberry and Joe Mill, and you haven't seen – significant degradation. In fact, 2025 results were above 2024. So in a world of decreasing productivity, our ability to maintain that productivity consistently and longer is, I think, a winning proposition. So certainly as you get further down our inventory, we're going to have lower productivity. I'd be lying to you if I said otherwise. But the teams continue to work on ways to reduce costs, drill better wells, better frack jobs, get better well performance out of areas that, you know, we thought were Tier 2, Tier 3, you know, three, four, five years ago. So, in general, it's about drilling the best stuff first and maintaining that sustaining free cash flow that you'd like to talk about. And, you know, I think we can do it longer than anybody.

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Doug Leggett
Wolfe Research Analyst

Great. Thanks, Keith. I appreciate the answers.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Doug.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Hennelt of RBC Capital Markets. Scott, your line is open.

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Scott Hennelt
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Yeah, thanks. You know, Cade, if you can give some color and context on your view of the, you know, Dimeback's position in the industry going forward. I mean, historically, you all have, you know, built your position through successful M&A. And, you know, obviously, it feels like this quarter there's been a little bit of a shift to more resource expansion organically. Can you just give us a sense of, like, what you're seeing in the landscape that sort of drives the shift from where Dimeback historically had been?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, you know, Scott, there's no doubt that there's been a ton of consolidation, you know, both in the Permian and elsewhere around the U.S., and, you know, it's been top of mind. I mean, you know, your website, the RBC website, continues to shrink in terms of the number of tickers, and I think generally, things have moved towards basin champions. I think in the Permian, there's going to be independent basin champions like Diamondback. There's going to be mineral champions like Viper, and there's going to be surface champions like some of the other companies out there. That natural consolidation has led us to say, hey, we have a ton of acreage and a ton of we should probably start to spend some more dollars improving that existing resource. So, you know, we're not out of the M&A game, but, you know, as we said in the letter, the opportunities are fewer and further between, and therefore, you know, we're going to be doing more things like Barnett, more things like testing surfactants. But, you know, don't get it wrong. There's not a deal that happens in the basin without us knowing about it. It's just that there's not, you know, 10, 20, 30 deals left to do.

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Scott Hennelt
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Thanks for that. And my follow-up is on your reserve report. You all mentioned there were some revisions to some of the numbers in there. And I know some of it's price-related, but you did mention some performance-related revisions. Can you just give us a little bit of context behind that?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, the majority of the reserve revisions, and it's interesting that reserve reports are now becoming something people read again in detail. The majority of our revisions are due to price. You know, the rest of the majority of our revisions are due to, you know, PUD – we call it PUD downgrades, but it really just means, you know, we're bringing in wells that we acquired or PUDs that we acquired and bringing those to the front of the development program. And, you know, in general, we try to keep a very low PUD balance. We try to – you know, the SEC rule is five years of development. In general, we're kind of averaging – three years of development in what we put in our PUDs. And right now, Diamondback, from a booking perspective, we're 70% PDP, 30% PUDs. And, you know, I think, you know, as we do deals like Double Eagle last year or Endeavor the year before, you know, some of our existing PUDs get taken out and new PUDs get put in. But, you know, from a performance perspective or PDP performance perspective, there have not been, you know, meaningful changes to the reserve report.

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Scott Hennelt
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Okay, so the individual wells are still holding true. It's just a shift in the PUDs moving in. Is that right?

speaker
Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

That's right. Just moving your best wells that you have remaining up.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks.

speaker
Arun Jayaram
JP Morgan Securities Analyst

Thanks, Scott.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next call comes from Leo Mariani of Roth. Leo, your line is open.

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Leo Mariani
Roth Analyst

I wanted to just revisit the Barnett, you know, here quickly. Can you give us a rough sense of the number of wells that you guys are going to be, you know, drilling or completing here in 2026? And can you just talk a little about what you kind of need to do to hold that position, you know, say over the next five years? Is there going to be a meaningful step up in activity in 27, 28?

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, we expect that to ramp up kind of through the end of the year and Like Case mentioned before, we expect to kind of allocate some activity to the plan in the back half of the year. So roughly, you know, we're looking at drilling about 30 wells this year, popping probably closer to 10, and then that ramps up significantly in 2027. We're on a gross basis. We're probably looking at more like 100 wells for that program.

speaker
Leo Mariani
Roth Analyst

Got it. Okay. And I guess is that the type of pace that would kind of hold everything together over the next couple years? Just any color you can provide around lease terms or anything like that on the asset?

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. That's a general pace so that we can do it in a capital-efficient manner.

speaker
Leo Mariani
Roth Analyst

Okay. Appreciate that. And then on continuous pumping, obviously you talked about that. I think you're kind of increasing you know, the amount of activity moving in that direction. You mentioned potentially being able to drop crews at some point down the road. Do you see that as a potential meaningful capital savings if you can get to the point where you are dropping crews at some point, say, later this year or next year?

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, I don't think that it's going to drive a ton of cost savings from our service providers. There's additional equipment requirements to be able to do so. There's a little bit of savings on some of the dumb iron, just the rentals that are out there as you increase cycle times, but the big benefit is really, as Kate kind of mentioned, is some of the stuff we can do to optimize the completion without adding additional costs from the additional well swaps and that kind of thing, but also the decreased cycle time you know, that impacts your water out frequency and, you know, you're able to bring wells forward in the plan, which, you know, is only maybe a one-time effect, but really the water out frequency and the length of time that you're watering out offset pads is a pretty huge benefit to the full year cycle time.

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Leo Mariani
Roth Analyst

Okay, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you very much. Our next question is, comes from the line of Charles Mead of Johnson Rice. Charles, your line is open.

speaker
Charles Mead

Good morning, Casey, you and your team. I want to ask a question around nomenclature because in your we've been talking about the Barnett here in your presentation talk about the Barnett but in your shareholder letter, you refer to it as the Barnett and the Woodford and so I wonder if you could help me explore a bit how this play has evolved. If we go back to the late teens and when you guys had the limelight prospect, that was pretty clearly a Barnett, Mississippian target there. But it sounds like as you guys are going into more of the basin center here, that it's a Woodford and Barnett target. It sounds like maybe you guys are landing in the Woodford and trying to frack up into the Barnett. I wonder if you could comment, is that directionally correct and more generally elaborate on how the play has evolved for you guys?

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Al Bargwin
Chief Engineer

Yeah, I think that's good commentary. So the Barnett and Woodford are distinct reservoirs, right, and have their own distinct properties. The initial play, the limelight play, when you think back to the 2017 time frame, that was truly a Barnett play. There's some nuance across the basin with the zone that divides the two reservoirs. So, the Mississippian lime sits between them. It changes in thickness pretty materially as you move across the basin, sort of north to south. And so, up at the limelight position, we had a pretty thick mist lime section, and so those two reservoirs were separate and distinct. And then as you move kind of into some of the areas where we've been delineating more recently, the misalignment is materially thinner and we're able to frack through it. But generally, we're targeting the lower Barnett and able to drain the Woodford in some of these areas where you've got that thinner misalignment section.

speaker
Charles Mead

Got it. That is helpful. And then, Case, this may be for you if we go back to your stoplight metaphor. I appreciate you really made it clear that you thought that the red light scenario seems like it's receded a bit. I think the unspoken flip side of that is that the green light scenario is a little closer, but can you elaborate a little bit more on that? Does that mean that the green light scenario is closer than the red light, or is it closer than before but you're still – you know, on balance, more likely to slow down. Just, you know, fill out that metaphor.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's a metaphor we can't seem to shake, but in general, I think it explains the situation pretty well. I just say, you know, I think, you know, there were periods of time over the last six months where, you know, we were all much closer to the red light scenario in terms of crude price. Now, there's a lot of things that, impacting crude prices, you know, over the last few months. But in general, I think, you know, talking to our investors, they're very supportive of this plan to keep, you know, production flat and maximize free cash and wait for, you know, the green light scenario. And I think just generally, you know, we've been talking about this oversupply for, you know, some people have been talking about it for two years, and it just hasn't seemed to happen as aggressively as some expected. And I think as we turn to higher demand in the summer and driving season and trading the spring months in crude, people will start to find reasons to be less bearish. Now, I could probably be wrong, but in general, we just feel more confident about the macro after a couple big shocks last year on the supply side and the demand side.

speaker
Charles Mead

That's great, Conor. Thanks, Case.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Charles.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Chang from Scotiabank. Paul, your line is open. Hi, thank you.

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Paul Chang
Scotiabank Analyst

Gentlemen, two questions. One, in your DNC or well course, now you're already done. in your legacy operation say in midland 550 or so. So where's the biggest opportunity to drive that down further? Is it coming from further improvement in drilling or completion and you're already extremely efficient over there? Or that is going to allow you that to have better maybe reduced downtime? And so just give us some idea that where should we send from there? That's the first question.

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Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, good question, Paul. You know, I think on the drilling side, it's, you know, we've really been able to show quarter-over-quarter efficiency gains, and I think it's just more of that, getting more consistent in those ultra-fast wells, right? We talk about in the letter, you know, some wells that are sub-six days, and we're still averaging over eight days, you know, spud to TD. And so how do we get, you know, that average from eight and a half, nine days down to, you know, seven days? And that drives meaningful cost savings on the drilling side. And then on the completion side, you know, we're continuing to go faster. And we talked a little bit earlier about continuous pumping and what that means for us. But it's also, you know, working on the supply chain of the completion side. You know, what can we do around fuel? What can we do? around other supporting services to get more efficient and drive some of the, you know, dead costs out of that business. And, you know, we're working on a lot of those things every day. These are not, you know, big chunks of dollars, but it's a lot of little things that add up to big chunks of dollars. So we're still, you know, grinding away on the core business. And like Diamondback's always done, we're not going to, Let up on that grind and I'd expect to see more dollars flow out of the core business as we go throughout this year.

speaker
Paul Chang
Scotiabank Analyst

Do you think over the next several years you will be able to more than offset the inflation and drive that 550 number down, say, towards the 500 or 525 in the next, say, three or four years?

speaker
Danny Weston
Chief Operating Officer

Well, the 550 is a mix of all of our, you know, Midland Basin zones. So that includes Wolf Camp D, you know, some of the deeper stuff that we're going to... And Barnett. And Barnett. And so, yeah, I think, you know, certainly some of the deeper zones that are higher cost today, we're going to see, you know, some material cost reductions in them as we continue to deploy our best-in-class execution prowess to those zones and learn about them more and put the bid in them more. So... You know, yeah, I do believe we'll see the 550 come down materially. But also in the older stuff that we're doing, you know, the Sprayberry Shower Wolf Camp Zones, you know, I don't know what inflation will do with, you know, it's really going to be largely driven on activity. But, you know, our goal every day is to continue to work. to execute better and more efficiently and drive costs out of our supply chain through what we consume. And then the variable costs, if we can execute better than everybody else, we'll have better variable costs than everybody else. And that's always been our focus and will continue to be our focus going forward.

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Paul Chang
Scotiabank Analyst

Thank you. The second question is a quick one. Impairment charges, non-cash, price-related primary, and also you have about $130 million bill of the reserve revision due to the price, but $65 WTI loss here is really not that low, so still a bit surprising you have reserve write-down and also impairment charges. Is it different from the, or that is that all basically in the legacy Diamondback asset or is it from Endeavor or from Double Eagle? Thank you.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Paul. Listen, fair value accounting is what it is. Fortunately for us, the Endeavor deal was very well received and that deal was put on the books in September of 2024 at $80 oil and $4 Henry Hub. I don't think there's an investor out there that would say, hey, that was a bad deal. Unfortunately, when you put something on the books at 80 and then you average 64 for a year, the market says you have to, the accounting rules say you have to have a write-down. It's unfortunate, but at the end of the day, I think I stand with all of our investors that we're very excited and happy that we did the Endeavor deal, and the accounting rules will be what they are.

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Paul Chang
Scotiabank Analyst

Thank you.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Paul.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, I am showing no further questions. I would like to turn it back to Case Van Hoff for closing remarks.

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Case Van Hoff
Chief Executive Officer

Well, despite no prepared remarks and starting immediately, you guys all were able to ask 65 minutes worth of questions. We appreciate your interest and thank you for the time today.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect.

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