First Capital, Inc.

Hello everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's first Capital Reads Q4 2025 results webcast and conference call. As a reminder, all phone lines are in a listen only mode to prevent any background noise, but later you will have the opportunity to ask a question during our question and answer session. To signal for a question at that time, you may press star and one on your telephone keypad. And now to get us started, With opening remarks and introductions, I am pleased to turn the floor over to Allison Harnick. Please go ahead, Allison.

Thank you, and good afternoon. In discussing our financial and operating performance and in responding to your questions during today's call, we may make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current estimates and assumptions, many of which are beyond our control and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements. A summary of these underlying assumptions, risks, and uncertainties is contained in our securities filings, including our MD&A for the year ended December 31st, 2025, and our current AIF, which are available on CR Plus and our website. These forward-looking statements are made as of today's date and accept as required by securities law. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any such statements. Also during today's call, we will reference certain non-IFRS financial measures. These do not have standardized meanings prescribed by IFRS and should not be construed as alternatives to net income or cash flow from operating activities determined in accordance with IFRS. Management provides these as a complement to IFRS measures to aid in assessing the REIT's performance. These non-IFRS measures are further defined and discussed in our MD&A, which should be read in conjunction with this call. I'll now turn it over to Adam.

Thank you very much, Alison. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our Q4 and year-end conference call. We're very pleased to deliver another strong set of operating and financial results in Q4, which rounded out a very solid year for First Capital. For the full 2025 year, same property cash NOI grew by a healthy 5.9%. This excludes lease termination fees and bed debt expense. In round numbers, approximately 2% of the NOI growth was from increased occupancy and new tenants paying cash rent at One Bloor East. Primarily higher rents across the balance of the portfolio contributed roughly 4% of same property NOI growth. This is a very strong growth rate for our business. And as you heard from Neil on prior calls, it exceeded our expectation from the beginning of the year. The primary driver of this outperformance has been better than expected leasing. Following a record high occupancy level of 97.2% set in Q2, occupancy remains solid at 97.1% at year-end. Our average in-place net rental rate now stands at $24.73 per square foot, which is an all-time high. During 2025, we renewed approximately 2.2 million square feet across 535 spaces. Net rental rates in year one of the renewal terms saw an average increase of nearly 15% over expiring net rents. Approximately three quarters of our renewed leases in 2025 included contractual rent escalations during the renewal terms. This resulted in a renewal lift of nearly 20% when comparing net rents in the last year of the expiring terms to the average net rents during the renewal terms. In addition to renewal leasing, we also completed approximately 500,000 square feet of new leasing last year. This related to 193 spaces with an average year one net rent of $28.23 per square foot. Following a strong Toronto ICSE last fall, we've recently concluded another productive ICSE in Whistler last month. Both conferences had a very positive tone with a notable increase in tenant attendance seeking additional first capital locations. With demand continuing to exceed supply for FCR type retail space, leasing continues to be very strong. We own great assets in great markets and our leasing team's deep understanding of the strong fundamentals for our product type, which I discussed in detail a couple of quarters ago, positions us well to continue to capitalize on opportunities for rent growth. We continue to have confidence that market dynamics provide a very long runway for strong and sustained rent growth for our portfolios. We're now two-thirds of our way through the three-year strategic plan that we presented to our investors at the beginning of 2024. At its heart, the plan is focused on delivering on three primary investor objectives. Stability and consistent growth in FFO per unit, growth in net asset value per unit, and absolutely stable reliable monthly cash distributions to our investors, and growth in those distributions over time. The business continues to perform exceptionally well. We remain on track to achieve the operating FFO per unit growth and debt to EBITDA metrics that are the core premise of our three-year plan. For the first two years of the plan, our OFFO per unit CAGR is approximately 6%. we're tracking ahead on operating FFO. Our debt to EBITDA has improved to the low nines and is on track to improve further by the end of 2026. While we've strengthened our balance sheet, we've also extended the weighted average term of our debt in a meaningful way, which Neil will touch on. With strong results, significant balance sheet strength, and positive outlook, the Board approved a 2.5% increase to FCR's monthly distribution, affected with the January 2026 distribution that will be paid next week. As we've discussed, stable and growing distributions is one of First Capital's key long-term objectives. We believe that we will look back on our 3% increase a year ago, together with the 2.5% increase this year, as the beginning of a long-term track record of regular distribution increases for our investors, supported by healthy FFO growth. As we enter the final year of our three-year plan, we're very pleased with our progress to date.

And with that, I will now pass things over to Neil. Thanks, Adam, and good afternoon, everyone.

Consistent with our usual practice, we have a slide deck available on our website. at www.fcr.ca. And in my remarks today, I will make references to that presentation. So, starting with slide six. As shown near the bottom of the page, FCR generated operating FFO of $72 million during the fourth quarter. This was an increase of 7% from $68 million in the fourth quarter of 2024 and a 1% increase sequentially from Q3. OFFO per unit was $0.34, representing a 6.6% increase from $0.32 earned one year ago, and it was 1% higher than the $0.33 earned in the third quarter of 2025. Once again, we characterized the fourth quarter results as being very strong, with same property NOI growth as the key driver. Now moving back to the top of this slide, to net operating income. Same property NOI excluding bad debt expense and lease termination fees was $112 million in Q4. This was a $6 million increase from $106 million in Q4 2024, representing growth of 5.7%. I also note that same property NOI represents 95% of FCR's total NOI. Below the same property NOI line item, you can see that Q4 lease termination fees were $2.6 million. This was higher than the expectations stated on our third quarter results call. During the fourth quarter, we ultimately secured these termination fees from seven tenants representing 47,000 square feet of space. While these vacancies will represent about 25 basis points of portfolio vacancy, and they will result in a short-term loss of recurring rental income, we see strong backfill prospects through this year. And clearly, we expect these transactions to have a positive net present value. Acquisition and disposition activity had very little impact on Q4. On the disposition front, we closed on two sales in the quarter for $67 million. Both were development sites, and collectively they provided a slightly negative NOI contribution. Finally, within the other non-same property NOI line, you'll see that there's a $3.5 million year-over-year decrease. A big piece of this, in fact, $2.9 million specifically, relates to straight line rent. About $1.2 million is an accelerated straight line rent charge off that's actually related to the lease terminations that I just mentioned a minute ago. Most of the balance of the straight line rent decrease relates to the lease up of our One Bloor East property, which turned cash NOI positive during the second quarter of 2025. Moving further down the FFO statement, interest and other income of $6.1 million was consistent with the $6.4 million earned in Q4 2024, and it was $700,000 higher sequentially from Q3 due to higher fee income and higher interest income. The increase in interest income occurred specifically because FCR carried about $300 million of cash for most of the month of December. Interest expense of $40 million was 5% lower year over year relative to $42 million. The year ago amount included a $1.7 million realized swap loss that was related to debt that we repaid early. So if you normalize for that amount, interest expense is little changed year over year. Moving to general and administrative expenses, which were $11 million. This was a 4% year-over-year increase for the quarter. Overall, we're very pleased to have held G&A flat at $43.5 million for the year. As I've noted on prior calls, we've been very focused on containing discretionary expenses. Quickly moving to slide seven, just to touch on the 2025 results. It included $466 million of NOI for the year, an $11 million increase. Same property NOI, again, X, lease termination fees and bad debt expense increased by nearly $25 million, equating to strong growth of 5.9%. Also benefiting from proactive management of the debt ladder, the good G&A expense containments, FCR was able to flow this growth through to operating FFO, which reached $286 million for the year, or $1.33 per unit, and that was relative to $270 million, or $1.26 per unit, in 2024, on what I'll refer to as a comparable basis. Slides 8 and 9 cover key operating metrics, many of which Adam touched upon already, and at the risk of being repetitive, the theme really remained consistent again through the fourth quarter with continued and broad strength across key occupancy, leasing velocity, leasing spreads, and rental rate metrics. Slides 10 and 11 provide various distribution payout ratio metrics. FCR's OFFO payout ratio was 67% for 2025. Similarly, the ACFO payout ratio registered 83%. Advancing to slide 12, FCR's year-end net asset value was $22.57 per unit. Sequentially, this is an increase of 28 cents during Q4. The largest contributor to the change was a $36 million net fair value increase on investment properties. Beneath the surface of this net number, FCR recorded Q4 total fair value increases of $42 million related to higher NOI and cash flow assumptions and increases of just over $20 million related to mark to sale values across four newly announced disposition transactions. Offsetting these contributions were net fair value markdowns of $27 million related to development and density properties and some very small asset specific adjustments to cap rates and discount rates. For 2025 as a whole, FCR's NAV per unit increased by 52 cents or 2.4%. The primary drivers were retained FFO and net fair value increases on investment properties of approximately $160 million related to the passage of time and higher cash flows. The biggest offsetting factor was just over $100 million of fair value reductions related to density and development land and residential development properties. Turning next to capital investments as outlined on slide 13. During Q4, $63 million of capital was invested into the business bringing the full year to $223 million. Q4 investments included $47 million of development-related expenditures and $16 million of leasing costs and CapEx into the operating portfolio. Full-year 2025 development expenditures were $163 million, while operating capital was $60 million. frankly, for the year for that matter, related to our Yonge and Roselon development, the Humbertown Shopping Center redevelopment, where phase three continues to advance very nicely, and our 1071 King purpose-built rental project. Moving to slide 14, Q4 was a very productive quarter on the financing front with $531 million of originations. primarily comprised of the issuance of $500 million of senior unsecured debentures through two offerings. The newly issued bonds had an 8.7-year weighted average term and a weighted average spread of 149 basis points. The net proceeds were principally applied towards the early repayment of $175 million term loan that was due in mid-April of this year and the $300 million Series T unsecured debentures, which were callable in early February of this year. One of the objectives we clearly stated at our 2024 Investor Day was to extend our debt ladder. And in just under two years, we've made very good progress on this front, which you can see on slides 15 and 16. Including term loan extension options in the REIT's favor, The debt ladder now has a 4.6-year weighted average term to maturity. One year ago, this figure was 3.7 years, and at the outset of our investor day and our three-year plan, the weighted average term was 3.3 years. Therefore, over the past two years, the debt ladder has been extended by approximately 40%. Moreover, the Q4 financing activities dramatically reduced FCR's near-term debt maturity exposure. As of December 31, 2025, term debt maturities in 2026 totaled only $129 million, or 3% of total debt. And notably, during the first six weeks of 2026, we have already paid out, mostly from cash on hand, approximately $85 million of maturing mortgages carrying a weighted average interest rate of 3.3%, thus further reducing 2026 debt rolls. Slide 17 summarizes a number of important credit metrics. FCR finished the year in an exceptional financial position with more than $700 million of liquidity in the form of cash on hand, and availability under three revolving credit facilities, an unencumbered asset pool of $6.3 billion, equating to nearly 70% of total assets, and a low 16% secured debt to total asset ratio. Now, before turning the call to Jordi, I will make a few comments related specifically to the year ahead. 2026 is the third and final year of our three-year plan. And in this regard, we continue to track towards or ahead of the key three-year objectives that we outlined at our 2024 Investor Day. So in terms of 2026 specifically, I'll speak to three items. Firstly, we believe same property NOI growth should be approximately 3%. And for clarity, this growth excludes potential determination fees and bad debt expense or recovery. The important context here is that we're comping against a very high gross year in 2025. And moreover, we took back some space late last year, as I discussed in my comments related to the Q4 lease termination fees. And with the failure of Toys R Us in Q1, we received some additional vacancy in the month of January. But to stand back, assuming FCR delivers 3% organic growth for the year, This means the two-year stacked same property NOI growth over the 2025-2026 timeframe will cumulatively be more than 9%.

Secondly, financing costs.

A moment ago, I touched on the significant de-risking benefits of our Q4 financing activities in particular. Now, these benefits do come with a short-term cost as they bring forward by a few months. some of the higher interest expense that FCR was inevitably going to incur in 2026 and beyond. The $500 million of unsecured debentures issued in mid to late November carried a weighted average effective interest rate of 4.7%. The funds were applied to the early repayment of debentures and term loans that had a weighted average effective interest rate of 3.5%. So the impact of 120 basis point yield increase on $500 million of debt equates to an annual increase in funding costs or interest expense of $6 million. And beginning in Q1 2026, FCR will be subject to that full run rate impact. Finally, turning to development, we expect 2026 expenditures to be within a range of $200 to $240 million. This is higher than the spend in each of the last two years, and we expect it to be higher than the spend in each of the two years beyond 2026. So there will be a ramp up in the pace of development spend, specifically at our 50% owned Young and Roselawn project, and this should be our single largest project development spend this year. As the year progresses, we also anticipate commencing a large-scale retail redevelopment initiative at our Westmount Shopping Center in Edmonton. So I think this gives you a bit of flavor for the year ahead. On the delivery side, we expect $55 to $65 million of retail development and redevelopment to come online. The stabilized NOI yield on this capital should be between 6%. The NOI impact, however, will be quite weighted towards the end of the year and into 2027 based upon the timing of the deliveries. Phase three of our Humbertown Shopping Center redevelopment and our Calgary Bridgeland development are the largest components of these deliveries. So this concludes my prepared remarks. I'm pleased now to turn the session to Jordi to elaborate further on FCR's investing

and related activities. Thank you, Neil, and good afternoon.

Today, I plan to update you on our investment, development, and entitlement activities. Starting with dispositions, it was a productive fourth quarter. We closed or entered into binding agreements to sell five properties for gross proceeds of $85 million, including $43 million of newly announced transactions. One of these sales that both went firm and closed in the fourth quarter was a development site located to the southeast corner of Leslie Street in York Mills in Toronto. After assembling and entitling the property for mid-rise residential, we sold it to a senior housing developer for $25 million. We entered into binding agreements on three additional properties this past quarter for total sale proceeds of $18 million. The largest is as is the disposition of a 1.5 acre parcel of land adjacent to our Plateau de Greves shopping centre located in Gatineau, Quebec. This $10.5 million transaction is under contract to close in the first half of 2026. Altogether, in 2025, we completed or secured firm agreements to sell 10 properties for $193 million. The run rate and the line yield of these assets is well under 3%, and the sale proceeds represent roughly a 40% premium to our pre-marked IFRS value. Turning to active redevelopments, our $45 million modernization and expansion of Humbertown Shopping Centre is advancing nicely and is on schedule. When completed, we will have demolished all of the common area and added 23,000 square feet of additional leaseable area to the centre. Humbertown will present as a brand new, unenclosed grocery and pharmacy anchored shopping center. It will have modern, prototypical retail units providing retailers with ideal space and reduced operating costs. Considering this and the excellent surrounding neighborhood demographics, the center commands premium market rents. The Law Laws grocery store is scheduled to open in their enlarged 34,000 square foot premises toward the end of Q2. We will turn over the final phase, which includes a newly created 20,000 square foot Shoppers Drug Mart, a Scotia Bank, a TV Bank, along with a number of other to-be-announced tenants in the second quarter of 2026. The redevelopment of the former Molson Building in Calgary is also tracking on time and on budget. This property is located in Bridgeland, a very desirable, rapidly gentrifying neighborhood close to downtown. We demolished the former building on site and are well under construction of a new 29,000 square foot building that will be occupied by Shockers Drug Mart. Shockers took possession of their new premises in Q4 of 2025 and plan to open in Q3 of 2026. Considering the locational advantage of our portfolio, we continue to source value creation opportunities by applying our retail redevelopment expertise, which is one of our core competencies. In this regard, and as Neil had touched on in his formal remarks, we are finalizing plans on several other shopping center redevelopments, including Westbound Center and Edmonton. We look forward to providing you with details on it and others we're working on in the coming months. Our mixed-use development program continues to advance as well. This quarter will top off our 17-story, 298-unit rental project at 1071 King Street West, in which we retained a 25% interest. Precast and window installations reach the fifth floor. 95% of the costs have been awarded, and we remain on budget. We expect first occupancy in mid-2027. Structural form work is also moving steadily at our Young and Roseland project in Toronto. The fourth floor of the podium is nearing completion and decking has started on the fifth floor. We own a 50% interest in this 636 unit residential rental building and serve as its development manager. The Young and Roseland project also includes 65,000 square feet of prime retail space. Unsurprisingly, tenant interest for the newly built retail space is very strong. 85% of the construction costs have been awarded and we remain on budget. We expect first occupancy of the residential space in the first half of 2028. Turning now to residential inventory. Registration and final closing at our Eden Bridge condominium project will occur in Q1 2026. 177 owners now have taken occupancy with three additional contracted sales defaulting and foregoing on their 20% deposits. 2025 was another active and productive year for our tunneling program. We secured approvals for 3 million square feet of incremental density and submitted rezoning applications for a further 1.7 million square feet. To date, Net of the density we've already sold, we've submitted for approximately 18 million square feet, or 75% of our 23 million square foot pipeline. Since initiating our entitlement program, we have sold over 5.5 million square feet of density at premium prices. As these entitlements are secured, our strategy remains to sell the majority of it while maintaining flexibility to retain partial interest in specific instances.

Thank you all for your time and your continued support of FCR.

Operator, you can please open the line for questions.

Thank you. And to our phone audience joining today, if you would like to ask a question at this time, simply press star followed by the digit 1 on your telephone keypad. Pressing star and 1 will place your line into a queue, and I will open your lines for your question one at a time. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that is Star and One. If you would like to ask a question, we'll hear first from Sam Damiani at TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for the question. Just on the 2020-2026 outlook for same property, it's a tough year for your comp, as you said, but if you were to strip out the impact of One Blue Reef last year and this year, what would the same property look number look like for 2026 relative to that 3% you provide?

Hey Sam, it's Adam. Thanks for the question.

So we're not prepared with what the number is excluding each property we own. So we can definitely get back to you on it, but leave it with us.

Okay, that'd be great. And just on the condos, coming to sort of finalization this year, early next year, any guidance on how that's going to impact financials in terms of FFO and capital repatriation?

Yeah. Hi, Sam. It's Neil.

We've not given specific profit guidance on that. And what we've really focused on, I would say, is our recurring FFO number at any rate. in the past. So we just encourage you to focus on the core number. And similarly, that's the way we look at metrics such as our debt to EBITDA. From a cash receipts perspective, it's obviously beneficial. For instance, Eden Bridge at our share is a gross revenue opportunity of somewhere in the range of $115 to $120 million. And at December 31st, we had already collected, in terms of initial deposits and then deposits as occupants move in, about 33% of the gross revenue number. So there's a round of closings that will occur, we anticipate, in the first quarter. And that's another $50 to $60 million of proceeds. And then there is a balance of some unsold inventory, which we anticipate being spread over a number of quarters as we monetize those units. 400 King is, as you know, a much larger building, although we have a smaller share. The gross revenue opportunity there is bigger, and we currently anticipate it will be completed either late in 2026 or possibly turned over in early 2027. That would be a de-levering event that you would measure in terms of somewhere in the range of 0.4 turns on a debt to EBITDA basis. So it's more significant.

And again, Neil, the impact on debt to EBITDA is purely from reduced debt. You're not including the EBITDA from the condo profits?

Well, there will be a headline EBITDA number, an impact to the extent there's profits, yes. But again, we focus on the trend or the core. And you've seen us reference a normalized debt to EBITDA in the past when there's unusual or positive lumpy contributions in the EBITDA. So we look at the trend.

Okay. And the last one for me, just on, I think the MD&A does reference that low eight times debt to EBITDA target for the end of 2026. I just wanted really to confirm that, and if there's any other, I guess, information you want to relay as to sort of the building blocks from getting from 9.1 times to low 8 in the next four quarters.

Well, I would say, generally speaking, some growth in EBITDA and some continued execution on asset sales.

Okay, perfect. I'll turn it back. Thank you. Thank you, Sam.

Our next question will come from Mike Marquitas at BMO Capital Markets.

Hi, thanks. Congrats on the strong end to the year and the great outlook for this year, guys. Just with following up, and I hate it's ticky-tack, but on the condo gains, so your OFFO will include condo gains? I know you're encouraging us to focus on core, but we do have to tie a number to what you report per consensus number, so just want to get some clarity there.

The short answer, Mike, is yes. It will be included in LFFO. It will be a low cents per unit number.

Okay. Got it. Okay. Just with respect to your measure loan balance, I think maybe it was two or three quarters ago you were expecting that number to come down, and it's actually been fairly stable. So maybe if you could just give us your outlook for that balance for the rest of this year as it's expected to. stay where it is currently, or do you expect that number to, that you're going to get some capital back from there as well?

Sorry, Mike, we just missed a question.

Which balance is that?

Your loans receivable program, MES loan balance.

Oh, MES loan balance. Yeah, we did actually did roll a couple of loans in the back half of the year. We actually also received repayments on some loans. So Your point actually is valid. We had originally anticipated that balance might come down. Our current modeling, for what it's worth, continues to anticipate that that balance will come down, but we're always on the lookout for opportunities and ways to accretively deploy capital while still meeting our core objectives as it relates to leverage metrics.

Okay, and I'll ask one more before I turn it back. Just with respect to sources of capital coming in, you're still on track to hit your disposition target by the end of this year. Mesloan balance sounds like you're mauling it to come down, but who knows. But just from the early refis that you've done, where do you see the opportunities to repay debt early without any material frictional cost? Or is that opportunity exist to you if you do get capital back?

Yeah, Mike, there's actually not a lot of opportunity, candidly. But we also, as I indicated, put capital out every quarter to remind everyone through development. So I would say in the first six months of this year, we actually don't contemplate much in the way of net debt repayment.

Okay. That's all I've got. Thanks so much, guys. Thank you very much, Mike.

And a reminder to our phone audience today, that is star and one. If you would like to ask a question moving forward, we'll hear from Lorne Calmer at Desjardins.

Thanks. Good afternoon. Um, maybe just on the point or us just quickly, um, obviously they declared the CCAA. Can you remind us when does the, uh, when did they cease paying rent or when did they cease paying rent?

Two locations. Uh, Lauren, they cease paying rent in January. So they paid December rent and did not pay January rent.

Okay. Um, that's very helpful. And then any plans, early plans, I mean, I'm sure you guys kind of the writing was on the wall for this one. I'm just wondering if there was any plans put in motion to backfill those spaces.

Uh, so it's truly, we have, um, kept tenants in place. at two of the locations, and it gives us an opportunity to find permanent solutions. We have a couple of tenants that we're in negotiations with, one in Big Park in particular, and interest seems to be, I'll say, fulsome. So we'll update you as that progresses.

Yeah, just a stand on that. So we've got a roster of tenants that are a good, very quick flood. Which has already mentioned are in place. So those rents would be lower than what toys was paying We are in negotiations with permanent tenants on both spaces Those rents are clearly going to be higher than what toys was paying King can you give a rough idea of what the type of tenant is a grocery value?

But we're dealing with more than one and

They would be very typical core FCR tenants for that size of space. So you would recognize them in our existing portfolio.

Okay, fair enough. And then maybe just lastly, on the lease term income, we hear how strong and demand for space is. Can you give us a little bit of color on what happened there and maybe the NOI impact or was the NOI impact already realized in 4Q?

Yeah, the two main ones are two beer store locations. So there was an opportunity... to get both back. We ended up with roughly a little over two years of gross rent the remaining term. We've got great prospects. They're fantastic spaces and great shopping centers. We'll lease them this year for certain at higher rents. But they primarily relate to two beer store locations.

Awesome. That's really helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question will come from Matt Cornack at National Bank Financial.

Maybe a quick follow-up to that line of discussion and in the context of your outlook for 26, beyond toys and what you experienced in Q4, are you expecting to see any additional kind of tenant turnover? And then if you could give us, I know things don't change rapidly, but a an updated lay of the land in terms of how tenants are approaching current economic uncertainty and immigration and everything that we've seen up to this point?

Yeah, so nothing out of the ordinary from what we see right now in terms of tenant turnover. For what it's worth, in prior calls, we've been asked, what's your watch list? Our response was, You can count the retailers on one hand and the store locations on two. We didn't give the names because they were current on their rent. We can tell you now one of those was toys, so no surprise. Other than them, we're not, and this will turn out to be an opportunity. There's no question about it at this point, but there's no one else that we're aware of that, you know, there's no large space we're aware of that's going to turn over this year. From what we see, it's going to be normal churn from this point. In terms of tenant tone, you highlighted a couple of macro economic events that sounded a bit negative, Matt. I can tell you we're not seeing that at all in the lease negotiations. Things are just as robust as we've ever seen them. We're fresh off the ICSE and Whistler. Very well attended. A lot of demand for FCR space. Our leasing pipeline is deep and very strong. So we are not seeing any pulling back whatsoever from tenants as a result of the things that you just mentioned or for anything else for that matter.

That's good to hear. And then maybe just the last quick one, Neil. It sounds like 2026's loss is to some extent 2027's gain in terms of I'm looking at FFO growth. in that the interest rate stuff is temporary and it also sounds like towards the back half of this year you'll see the benefits of lease up and some of the vacant space. So am I thinking about that kind of an average between the next two years, kind of a normal number for what you get from an FFO growth standpoint?

Well, Matt, you're as good at modeling as the next guy, I'm sure. I brought these points to everyone's attention for a reason. Interest rate roll-up is a factor for FCR. It's not a unique factor to FCR. And I do think it actually, when you look at the debt roll and the weighted average in-place debt, it does actually extend through 2027 as well. So it's a challenge we're all facing. And we've got a plan that we're applying to deal with it. And we have, of course, strong core organic growth in the business. And we're dealing with it through an asset allocation strategy to continue to monetize low and no yielding density value in other properties. So, you know, our core objective is, one of our core objectives is growth in FFO reunits. We have been dramatically exceeding our stated target for our three-year plan to date. We're going to work hard to continue to exceed those numbers, that number rather, but the interest rate headwind does kick in probably more so over the next 24 months than it actually has over the last 24.

Yeah, that's fair. Sorry, I said that was the last one, but... Just quickly on your point with regards to disposition activity, it seemed like it had moderated a bit, but then you've made good progress over the last, call it six months. So can you give us a sense as investor demand remained very strong for the type of assets that you're looking to dispose of? And it seems like the pricing is consistent with what you've said historically, if not a little bit ahead. So just a confirmation of that comment, if anything.

It's definitely been a grind given the nature of the assets we're selling, but Jordi and the investments team have done a fantastic job of being very methodical, very tactical and selling assets at great prices. It's certainly been tough for a couple of years and we expect it to continue to be tough. It's not materially different today than it was six months ago or even 12 months ago. We're about 66% of our way through our three-year plan. We're about 60% of our way through the disposition volume, so still somewhat to chop, but still generally on track.

Fair enough. Thanks, Ed. Thank you very much, Matt.

Our next question today will come from Pammy Beer at RBC Capital Markets.

Thanks. Hi, everyone. Just maybe sticking to that disposition theme, can you maybe just speak to what's maybe currently being marketed for sale, and is there anything that might be in advanced stages, and how maybe that mix might have changed from a few months ago when we last spoke on that topic?

Yeah, not much of a change, Tommy. There are low and no yielding assets. This has been a market where generally most of the stuff that Jordy and his group have sold have not been broadly marketed. Some of them have been a more subtle marketing campaign through a broker. Some we've done directly within our investments team. But it's the low, no yielding assets. Some we think are more prime for sale than others. And so we're out there working on a bunch of them. Some we think will get done. Some probably don't get done. But it'd be very similar in nature to what Jordy and his group have sold over the last couple of years.

Okay. And I think, Neil, your comment that I think you said no significant debt pay down in the first half of the year. Are you implying then any transactions are probably more second half weighted in order to hit the balance of your 750 target, $750 million?

Yeah, hi, Pommy. I mean, debt that will get repaid is related to condo construction debt at Edenbridge, for instance. But I think the question really related to, is there any debt that we can prepay? So I guess that was more the focus of my response. Having said that, we do anticipate that the reduction in net debt will be more weighted to the back half of the year than the front half of the year. Yeah, and the dispositions, just for clarity.

So, yeah, you're right, Juan. Okay. All right. That was it for me. Thanks so much. Thanks very much.

And to our phone audience, a reminder, that is star and one. If you would like to ask a question, we'll move forward to Mario Sarek at Scotiabank.

Hi. Thank you for taking the question. It may be a bit more granular, but just sticking to the disposition theme, any – Any relevant update in terms of selling some of the Yorkville assets you talked about in the last quarter or two?

Yeah, well, there were two assets that were marketed. Jordy, do you want to give the update on those two specific assets?

Yeah, so we had listed, as you know, Mario, two properties in Yorkville. We were very clear from the outset that these were great assets, very attractive growth profiles, and By virtue of that, we would need a large premium to transact. Otherwise, we're very happy to keep them and take advantage of the NOI growth and value growth that would result. What I can say is we received offers for the properties. The offers we received were in excess of our IFRS value. But we really didn't see it as a high enough premium for us to agree to sell those assets now. So we'll continue to hold them until such time as we can transact at the prices we think make sense.

Got it. Okay. And more of a broader question, Adam, I think you've depicted the transaction environment or market situation. for grocery anchored in Canada has been very strong, but largely kind of dominated by private, smaller investors. To what extent has that changed in terms of incremental institutional capital, especially foreign institutional capital coming into the market?

Yeah, so just so my comments are clear, there are two main buckets of assets FCR holds in the disposition environment for the two are dramatically different. So the low and no yielding properties, the ones that have a lot of residential development density, that's the one that I described has been more of a grind. But the sale of those are the ones that advance our strategic plan. So that's what we're focused on. The core grocery anchored shopping center portfolio, that's the area of our portfolio that we view as core and is an area we're actually keen to grow in. The demand for that type of space is much stronger, it's much deeper. The stuff we've been selling has been largely to smaller private type outfits. There's a lot more institutional capital that would be interested in investing in grocery anchor shopping centers. It's broad-based. We haven't seen a material change in foreign capital, though you touched on foreign capital. So we haven't seen a meaningful change in that over the last year. I would still describe the demand as being heavily weighted to more domestic investors.

Okay. My last question, in 24, you put out a three-year business plan. I believe it was a transformational time for the REIT. Looking out, should our expectation be of a similar two-, three-year plan on a rolling basis, or are we more likely to see annual updates in terms of the outlook?

Well, I mean, to be frank, that's to be determined. We thought it was an important time to put out a three-year strategic plan. I'm glad you used the word transformational because that's how we viewed it as well. It was transformational from a real estate portfolio perspective and monetizing a lot of assets that don't contribute to our key objectives that we feel a lot of REIT investors perhaps don't fully value in the same way as the balance. And so monetizing those and deploying the capital that gets repatriated into lower debt, strengthening the balance sheet and into assets that do fit more appropriately. So we made a lot of progress on that front. We will continue selling those types of assets. I mean, given the size of the pool we have probably for the next decade with just the assets we own today. And so it was transformational from that perspective. Our balance sheet's also been transformed on the debt side. Our credit has been totally re-rated. I think in the last couple of years, our unsecured spreads are in over 200 basis points when The piers are in roughly half of that. So we're going to continue executing the plan. We've now entered our final year. It's gone exceptionally well. We still have wood to chop, and so we're focused on that. And likely as we navigate throughout the balance of the year, we will certainly be coming to you and other stakeholders in a manner that describes how we're thinking about the future. It'll likely be one of the two options you put out. I don't know for sure if we're going to put out another three-year plan, but we'll certainly provide some guidance in terms of how we're thinking about the business and what we think it can deliver on a regular annual basis at minimum.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mario.

We have no further signals from our phone audience today. I would like to turn the floor back to our management team for any additional or closing remarks.

Okay, thank you very much, and thank you, everyone, for your time, your interest, and support for First Capital. We look forward to continuing to execute well and keeping you updated on our activities. Have a great afternoon.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude First Capital REIT's Q4 2025 results webcast and conference call. We thank you all for your participation, and you may now disconnect your lines.