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spk02: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fuel Assault Energy second quarter of 2021 Financial Results and Business Update conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. you require any further assistance please press star then zero i would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today tom galston senior vice president of finance and investor relations please go ahead thank you jason and good morning everyone thank you for joining us on the call today as a reminder this call is being recorded this morning fuel cell energy released our financial results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2021
spk04: and the earnings press release is available on the investor relations section of our website at fuelcellenergy.com.
spk06: Consistent with our practice, in addition to this call and our press release, we will post a slide presentation on our website. This webcast is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website approximately two hours after we conclude the call.
spk04: Before we begin on prepared comments, please direct your attention to the disclosure statement on slide two of the presentation and the disclaimers included in the press release related to forward-looking statements.
spk03: The discussion today will contain forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, statements with respect to the company's anticipated financial results and statements regarding the company's plans and expectations regarding the continuing development, commercialization, and financing of its fuel cell technology and its business plans.
spk06: These forward-looking statements are intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
spk03: All statements made on this call today, other than statements of historical facts, are forward-looking statements and include statements regarding our anticipated financial and operational performance.
spk06: Forward-looking statements made on this call represent management's current expectations and are based on information available at the time such statements are made. Forward-looking statements involve numerous known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from the results predicted, assumed, or implied by the forward-looking statements. We strongly encourage you to review the information in the reports we file with the SEC regarding these risks and uncertainties, in particular those that are described in the risk factor sections of our annual report on Form 10-K and the cautionary statement concerning forward-looking statements disclosure in the quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. You should also review the section entitled Cautionary Statement Concerning Forward-Looking Statements in this morning's earnings press release. During the call, we will use non-GAAP financial measures when talking about the company's performance and financial condition.
spk03: In accordance with SEC regulations, you can find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP measurements in this morning's earnings press release and the reconciliation document posted on the investor relations portion of our website.
spk06: For our call today, I'm joined by Jason Pugh. Fuel Cell Energy's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Bishop, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer.
spk03: Following our prepared remarks, we will be available to take your questions and be joined by other members of the leadership team. I'd now like to hand the call over to Jason for opening remarks.
spk06: Jason? Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us on our call today. We remain optimistic about the continuing momentum behind the global energy transition and expect to play an important role with our primary technologies that include distributed generation, distributed hydrogen, long duration hydrogen energy storage, and carbon capture. We are firmly committed to working hard to achieve revenue growth over time by continuing to focus on our turnaround and delivering proprietary technology solutions that we believe solve customer energy needs and aid in decarbonization. For anyone who may be new to the story, we have included a company overview shown on slide three. Taking a look at full-year fiscal 2020 ended on October 31st, we achieved revenue of $71 million, a double-digit increase over the prior year. Our three largest revenue categories are service and licenses, advanced technologies, and generations. all of which represent diversified sources of recurring revenue under multi-year contracts with investment-grade customers. Looking ahead, we are focusing on opportunities to generate meaningful revenues from product sales. We see opportunities in markets including the US, Asia, and select countries across Europe, and even domestically with certain customers who prefer to own the fuel cell platform. Under our powerhouse business strategy, we have made it a priority to target product sales. We have been taking steps to rebuild our business development and go-to-market capabilities as an essential step in the strength and pillar of our powerhouse business strategy to ultimately support growth, recruit and onboard strategic talent, focus on market segments which deliver long-term growth opportunities with repeatable business and carbon capture and separation and hydrogen applications, and re-enter targeted global markets and build client relationships. We have many customers highlighted here on the slide who are utilizing our multi-featured fuel cell platforms. Many of these platforms integrate combined heat and power capabilities, creating extremely high energy efficiency levels, while other installations enable microgrids, keeping essential resources powered, and enhance grid resiliency and reliability. Some applications utilize on-site biofuels, resulting in carbon neutral to carbon negative power. Prior to moving on to discuss our corporate purpose, I want to spend a minute addressing our quarterly results. Certainly, we are not satisfied with the financial results that the company produced this quarter. If this is not your first earnings call, you've heard me discuss safety ratios. We continue to concentrate on improving the saving ratio across our organization, and while our strategy implementation and pivoting to the growth phase was expected to be a process, we are not pleased with our saving ratio this quarter and the results that we are reporting this morning. However, I want to stress that the financial results are a snapshot. And not a complete reflection of the hard work and progress we are making in executing our powerhouse business strategy, we will cover some of these actions and investments in the coming slides. Now turning to slide four. As a company, we are committed to our purpose of enabling the world to live a life empowered by clean energy. The world will always need reliable, always on power that is created in an environmentally responsible manner. As we are periodically reminded by extreme weather and other events, grid reliability remains a critical issue. Fuel cell energy is uniquely positioned to assist customers on their decarbonization journey and meet the grid reliability challenge with our broad product portfolio. It is important to highlight that we do not subscribe to the philosophy that the goal of decarbonization requires deindustrialization or that developing countries around the world cannot participate in industrialized societies through their own economic development. Instead, we look to deploy our unique and differentiated energy solutions to deliver decarbonized baseload power as a necessary complement to intermittent renewables in a manner which sustains high standards of living and economic growth while protecting the environment and adapting to new resource challenges. This purpose drives our strategic focus and the work we do. Next, I would like to turn your attention to some key messages for the quarter shown on slide five. The first is that we continue to make steady progress against our $1.3 billion of backlog as we execute our powerhouse business strategy in terms of rated capacity completion of these projects will add 43.5 megawatts more than doubling our current generation portfolio of 32.6 megawatts as previously announced our backlog now includes a power purchase agreement for a newly awarded 2.8 megawatt share clean energy facility project in derby connecticut I am pleased to announce that we are close to resolution of the interconnection issues on the 7.4 megawatt project at the U.S. Naval Submarine Base in Groton, Connecticut, with two parties prepared to execute the current form of interconnect agreement, one of which is Field Cell Energy. The project is entering the final stages of construction and nearing completion. with commercial operation currently expected in late summer, assuming final signature of the interconnection agreement is achieved. Related to project opportunities in the state of Connecticut, the Connecticut House of Representatives approved the passage of House Bill 6524 by a 143 to 1 margin on May 24, 2021. Just last evening, the Connecticut Senate approved the passage of House Bill 6524 by a 26 to 10 margin. This bill includes several key provisions and amendments important to the state of Connecticut maintaining its fuel cell manufacturing leadership position. The energy transition and the forecasted importance of distributed hydrogen positions Connecticut as a global leader in clean technology essential and achieving global sustainability objectives. The bill requires the Connecticut utilities to solicit proposals to acquire new fuel cell electricity generation projects that begin on or after July 1, 2021. Projects submitted under this mandate will be approved by January 1, 2022. House Bill 6524 provides preferences for projects that are sited on brownfields as Connecticut demonstrates its commitment to energy equity and for fuel cells that are manufactured in Connecticut. The bill now goes to Governor Lamont's desk for signing and for law. At our 1.4 megawatt biogas project at the San Bernardino, California wastewater treatment facility, construction is completed. We have received the necessary authorizations from the local utility on the interconnection process for this platform, and we have entered the commissioning stage of this project. We expect COD in our fiscal third quarter, and once we achieve COD, Fuel Cell Energy will help yet another wastewater treatment plant turn off its flare, another example of Fuel Cell Energy helping a customer to move its decarbonization goals forward and eliminate methane flaring. Equipment, manufacturing, fabrication, and early stage construction is underway on the 2.3 megawatt Trigen hydrogen platform at the Port of Long Beach that will deliver carbon neutral electricity, green hydrogen, and produce water, helping Toyota avoid consuming water as a natural resource at the port. The picture on the right side of the slide is a rendering but the first of its kind project. I want to unpack the value of generated water our Trigen hydrogen platform will provide Toyota. Based on the National Drought Mitigation Center at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, today, 100% of the state of California is in at least moderate drought conditions, and the areas surrounding Long Beach, California, are classified in between severe and extreme droughts. making the Trigen water production even more valuable to Toyota's water use at the port. This project is expected to further demonstrate the ability of Fuel Cell Energy's platforms to assist our customers in achieving a broad range of sustainable goals. In addition, we are advancing work on our utility-scale deployments in Yapank, Long Island, New York, and Derby, Connecticut, together These three projects total 24.5 megawatts. After resuming production last year at our Torrentine, Connecticut manufacturing facility with necessary COVID-related safety enhancements, we have increased our annualized production rate from 17 megawatts at the end of fiscal 2020 to more than 30 megawatts as of April 30th with the objective of reaching an annualized production rate of 45 megawatts by the end of this fiscal year. This increased production rate has been facilitated in part by our efforts in increasing hiring, reducing production pack time, and continued implementation of lean manufacturing principles. Operational excellence has always been extremely important to Fuel Cell Energy, and as validation of our efforts, I am proud that we have recently added ISO 45001-2018 to our list of certifications. This recognition represents the world's international standard for occupational health and safety and is important to our company as it formally incorporates safety into our everyday practices. My second key message is to highlight our investment in research and development toward the commercialization of our solid oxide power generation, storage, and hydrogen electrolysis platform, as well as growing our commercial capabilities. Our DOE supported programs continue to advance the design of our solid oxide stacks, stack modules, and balance of plant systems. The prototype electrolysis system that we are currently operating is exhibiting our target electrical efficiencies of about 90% with the capability to increase electrical efficiency to 100% with an external source of waste heat. We are also executing a program to develop reversible solid oxide systems for energy storage and very high-efficiency solid oxide power generation systems. And the third key message today is our focus on strengthening our leadership in sustainability. The transition to clean energy continues to gain momentum as society looks for decarbonization solutions to address climate challenges while grid reliability deteriorates amidst challenges posed by climate change, underinvestment in infrastructure, and cyberattacks. To meet this growing need, Fioso Energy remains focused on developing and deploying our distributed decarbonized product portfolio solutions for some of the largest global energy opportunities. And now I will turn the call over to Mike to discuss our financial results in more detail. Mike?
spk03: Thank you, Jason. Let's begin by reviewing financial highlights for the quarter shown on slide seven. In the second quarter of fiscal year 2021, we delivered revenues of $14 million compared to 18.9 million in the second quarter of fiscal year 2020. Looking at revenue drivers by category, service agreements and license revenues decreased to $700,000 from $7 million reported in the comparable quarter of 2020. The decline in revenue is primarily due to the fact there were no new module exchanges during the quarter, while new module exchanges generated approximately $5.5 million of revenue in the prior year quarter. The second quarter of fiscal year 2021 also included cost estimate adjustments related to changes in the expected timing of future module exchanges, which reduced revenue recognition in the quarter by approximately $800,000. Generation revenues increased to $6.2 million from $4.6 million, primarily due to higher operating output of the generation fleet, which resulted in an increase in generation revenues of approximately $800,000 and sales of renewable energy credits, which also resulted in an increase in generation revenues of approximately $800,000. Advanced technology contract revenues decreased to $7.1 million from $7.3 million compared to the second fiscal quarter of 2020 Advanced technology contract revenues recognized under the Joint Development Agreement, or JDA, with ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company, or Emory, were approximately $400,000 higher during the second fiscal quarter of 2021, reflecting continued performance under the JDA with Emory on fuel cell carbon capture solutions during the quarter. The increased revenues under the JDA were offset by $600,000 less revenue recognized under government contracts during the second fiscal quarter of 2021 compared to the prior year quarter. The loss from operations totaled $17.4 million compared to $8.1 million in the comparable prior year period as a result of higher gross loss and higher operating expenses. Gross loss for the second quarter of fiscal year 2021 totaled $4.8 million compared to a gross profit of $200,000 in the comparable prior year quarter. Impacting gross loss for the quarter were lower service gross margin due to the fact there were no new module exchanges during the quarter and due to adjustments of loss accrual reserves to account for changes in the expected timing of future module exchanges. We also saw lower generation gross margin primarily related to higher costs for plant maintenance as we continue to invest in efforts to improve fleet performance and lower advanced technology gross margin given the mix of activities in the quarter. These impacts were partially offset by lower manufacturing variances as a result of the increase in the annualized factory production rate. Operating expenses for the second fiscal quarter of 2021 increased to $12.6 million from $8.3 million in the second fiscal quarter of 2020. Administrative and selling expenses in Q2 2021 included additional share-based compensation of $800,000 due to the non-cash grants made in August and November 2020 under our long-term incentive plans. An increase in compensation expense and proxy mailing expenses associated with the company's annual stockholder meeting also contributed to higher administrative and selling expenses in the second fiscal quarter of 2021. Research and development expenses of $3 million during the second fiscal quarter of 2021 reflect increased spending on the company's hydrogen commercialization initiatives. Net loss was $18.9 million in the second fiscal quarter of 2021 compared to a net loss of $14.8 million in the second fiscal quarter of 2020. The net loss per share attributable to common stockholders for the second quarter of fiscal 2021 was $0.06 compared to $0.07 in the second fiscal quarter of 2020. The lower net loss per common share, despite a higher net loss attributable to common stockholders, is due to the higher weighted average shares outstanding due to share issuances since April 30, 2020. Adjusted EBITDA totaled negative $11.3 million in the second fiscal quarter of 2021 compared to adjusted EBITDA of negative $3.3 million in the second fiscal quarter of 2020. please see the discussion of non-GAAP financial measures including adjusted EBITDA in the appendix of the company's earnings rules. Next, please turn to slide 8 for additional detail on financial performance and our backlog. The charts on the left-hand side of the slide graphically show the numbers we just reviewed for the second quarters of fiscal years 20 and 21. Looking at the right-hand side of the slide, we finished the quarter with backlog of approximately $1.3 billion, a decrease of 1.5%. The backlog decrease was partially offset by the inclusion of $59.4 million of generation backlog added during the quarter for the power purchase agreement for the 2.8-megawatt project in Derby, Connecticut. This 20-year power purchase agreement was awarded as part of the competitively bid state-sponsored shared clean energy facility program. Now, turning to slide nine, as of April 30th, 2021, cash, restricted cash, cash equivalents totaled 171.2 million, of which 32.1 million was restricted cash and cash equivalents represented by the green bar. On the right-hand side of the slide, we have included a chart illustrating our total project assets, which make up our company-owned generation portfolio, which we continue to invest in. Investments to date include capital spent towards completed projects, as well as projects in development and construction. At the end of the second quarter of fiscal year 2021, our gross project assets totaled approximately $223.4 million. As itemized on slide 19 in the appendix of this presentation, our generation portfolio totaled 76.1 megawatts of assets as of October 31st, 2021. This includes 32.6 megawatts of operating assets and 43.5 megawatts of projects and process. As projects and process come online, they are expected to contribute higher revenue and adjusted EBITDA. As noted in our release today, we are now targeting commercial operations of our San Bernardino platform in the third quarter of fiscal 2021, and commercial operations of the Groton Navy sub-base project is targeted for late summer of 2021. Also, as projects come online, we expect to seek long-term project financing and recycle cash back to the company to redeploy into other projects or growth development activities. I will now turn the call back over to Jason. Thanks, Mike.
spk06: Next on slide 10 is a summary of the four major technologies that Fuel Cell Energy is pursuing, each with its own significant total addressable market opportunity that creates optionality for the company and is supported by our broad Fuel Cell platform portfolio. In distributed generation, we currently have 32.6 megawatts installed and operating with another 43.5 megawatts in our project backlog. Our distributed hydrogen and carbon separation solutions are commercially available, and as previously stated, our carbonate distributed hydrogen solution will be implemented at the Port of Long Beach, California. Ours is the only platform we know of that can produce both hydrogen and water. This capability has the potential to be particularly significant in areas with constrained water supply, as I previously highlighted. Hydrogen and long-duration energy storage using our solid oxide technology is in advanced development, and our unique carbon capture technology is currently being developed under a joint development agreement with ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company. We continue to advance our carbonate fuel cell platform's efficiency capturing carbon from an external source while also producing power. As with our distributed hydrogen platform, we believe our carbonate fuel cell platform is the only system in the world that can capture carbon from an external source and produce more power at the same time. We can also directly capture our own carbon emissions from our platform for carbon utilization and or sequestration. Next on slide 11, illustrates our position across the hydrogen value chain. On the left, you will see a visual illustration of how Fuel Cell Energy has the potential to deliver hydrogen using three of our platforms, depending on our customer application. Carbon at Triton delivers power, water, and hydrogen. And depending upon the configuration, can deliver gray hydrogen, blue hydrogen, when combined with our proprietary carbon capture technology, or green hydrogen when deployed utilizing biogas with or without carbon capture. And as a reminder, Gilso Energy has spent two decades developing and refining in real commercial applications the technology to clean the impurities from our on-site biogas so that we can generate renewable energy and green hydrogen directly at the biogas source without expensive purification to pipeline quality. The platform we are currently building for Toyota at the Port of Long Beach is an example of tri-gen delivering green hydrogen. Carbonate RAP, which stands for Reformer Electrolyzer Purification, can be utilized when co-production of power is not required, and it can deliver green hydrogen, blue or gray. In essence, this is running our carbonate fuel cell and electrolysis, our reverse mode, to singularly produce hydrogen. And third, we are advancing our solid oxide technology, which produces hydrogen through highly efficient, high-temperature electrolysis. It can also operate in reverse mode, using stored hydrogen to produce zero carbon power. Slide 12 provides a more detailed overview of our solid oxide platform. A prototype unit is currently running in our Danbury, Connecticut headquarters for testing the various platform design elements. It will be modified to run in reversible mode, alternating between hydrogen generation and power production, demonstrating our hydrogen-based energy storage platform. As previously announced, we have been selected for a cooperative agreement from the U.S. Department of Energy to fund the design, manufacture, and testing of a large system at Fuel Cell Energy's Danbury, Connecticut facility to be delivered to Idaho National Laboratories. there it will undergo rigorous testing to confirm the electrical efficiency as well as the ability to utilize nuclear power plant waste heat to obtain even higher efficiencies of up to 100 percent this project represents a key step in fuel cell energy's path to commercialize our high temperature high efficiency solid oxide electrolysis technology the multi-stack module that forms the core of the system is a modular building block easily scalable for larger systems up to gigawatt scale. Just last week, Senator Chris Murphy and Congresswoman Johanna Hayes visited us here in Danbury to witness firsthand electricity being converted to hydrogen by our prototype solid oxide unit. I think it is safe to say that both the Senator and Congresswoman are excited about the development of our differentiated technology taking place in Connecticut. the role Connecticut can play in the energy transition and the opportunity to create clean tech jobs in the state they represent in Congress. We are thankful for their time, appreciative of their support for federal programs that encourage the continued and expanded deployment of fuel cells and encouraged by their leadership in important matters like decarbonization, grid reliability, the clean energy transition, and their recognition that fuel cells are needed to realize global climate ambitions. Next, on slide 13, is our powerhouse business strategy, which is based on three core pillars of transform, strengthen, and grow. We introduced the powerhouse business strategy in January of 2020 to serve as a guidepost for our turnaround as we repositioned fuel cell energy to capitalize on energy transition. The first phase of our plan was to transform the company by building a durable financial foundation and enhancing financial results. We have taken a number of important steps to strengthen the balance sheet, allow us to finance new projects, push forward with commercialization of breakthrough products, and lower our cost of capital. Currently, we are focused on strengthening stage of our strategy to drive operational excellence throughout the business and make capital investment decisions that further enhance our performance and advance product commercialization while adding top-quality talent to our team. To fully deliver on the powerhouse business strategy, our third pillar for long-term growth is to penetrate markets and customer segments where our technology platforms can be the preferred solution. We are increasing our annualized production rate, as previously mentioned, and will generate operating leverage as we increase our production rate for future business growth. Turning to slide 14, we will continue to work toward our three-year long-term targets and goals that we established with the launch of our powerhouse business strategy looking ahead to fiscal year 2022. Reaching these targets will require successfully executing against our 43.5 megawatt project backlog and achieving commercial operation for each of those projects. As I have explained in today's presentation, we are pursuing commercializing our advanced technology around R&P and solid oxide hydrogen and focusing on advancing the development of our carbon capture platforms for capturing carbon from external sources, each of which offers potential growth opportunities for our company. To conclude my remarks, I will review the key investment highlights for Fuel Cell Energy on slide 15. We have executed several strategic actions to strengthen our balance sheet by repaying debt, enhancing liquidity, and reducing our cost of borrowing. We believe these steps have positioned the company to execute on our three-year growth strategy. We have an exceptional leadership team and continue to add talent across the company. We are focused on taking care of our customers, hitting our financial milestones, and continually building upon our operational excellence while adhering to our core purpose. Our portfolio of innovative technologies has a potential key role to play in the global goals of decarbonizing the grid, developing the hydrogen economy, and supporting existing energy and industrial infrastructure investments with differentiated carbon capture solutions. We are working to implement our powerhouse strategy to strengthen our business, maximize operational efficiency, and position us for long-term growth. Finally, We intend to be a leader in sustainability and environmental stewardship by delivering on sustainability through our technology and the full circular life of our platforms. I will now turn it over to Jason Stevenson to begin Q&A.
spk02: At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Colin Rush from Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Thanks so much. Can we get an update on the pipeline of projects that you're looking at and how they're progressing outside of Connecticut?
spk05: It's great to see you make some progress, but we'd love to see how you're competing in some of the other geographies.
spk06: Yeah, Paul, how are you this morning?
spk01: I'm good. Good to hear your voice.
spk06: Thank you. Thanks for joining the call. Just to give you a sense of that, you know, as we work to, you know, really through the work that we were doing around, you know, the transformation part of our pillar, another big part of that has been trying to really build our pipeline and build opportunities not only outside of the state of Connecticut but around other parts of the world. So if I could give you a sense of the pipeline You know, as we see opportunities today kind of across the U.S., they represent, you know, approximately about 40 percent of the opportunities that we see in Europe and Middle East right now is about 34 percent of the opportunities that we're looking at. And Asia, you know, today as we've reentered that market now, you know, reflects early going about 13 percent. And then across Latin America and other markets were roughly about 12%. So we're starting to see really good momentum in the markets that we're really focusing on and leveraging our product really as a platform. So if you think about the way I talked about the Toyota solution, that's a scenario where we're offering more benefit than just traditional power or combined heat and power with that type of solution. And so as we approach customers around the world, that's really a big focus of ours is to make sure that we can leverage the multi-capabilities of our platform to attract more customer demand for our products.
spk01: That's super helpful.
spk06: I've got two more quick ones. First, on the input side for manufacturing, you obviously have to scale up. Raw materials become a bigger issue. consideration from a purchasing perspective, and we're obviously seeing a ton of inflation around some basic materials. But just want to get a sense of how you guys are positioned on that in terms of, you know, exposure on raw materials and any sort of patches that you may have in place at this point. Yeah, Colin, what I'm going to do, I'm going to let Mike Lazowski, our Chief Operating Officer, address that from a supply chain perspective. Colin, thank you very much. Good morning. Thank you very much for your question. Great question.
spk05: These relationships span decades and periods of time.
spk06: And we have pursued with our supply partners in many cases firm fixed forward pricing agreements to ensure continuity of supply as well as protecting against unfavorable market dynamics.
spk05: So we feel good and confident about the position that we have for our supply line and look ahead to executing on the projects as articulated.
spk06: Okay, perfect. And then one last one, you know, around the financing piece. Obviously, interest rates are tremendously low here. You guys have really supplemented the balance sheet in a really comprehensive way. You know, can you talk a little bit about the potential to refi, you know, the existing portfolio, what sort of savings we might see on that, and, you know, general sense of timing, if you are pursuing those sorts of opportunities?
spk03: Yeah, good morning, Colin. This is Mike Bishop. Thank you for joining the call. So, As I mentioned in my remarks, the company, as we bring projects to commercial operations, we expect to bring in permanent financing for those projects, both in terms of tax equity and back leverage. As we've done for the projects that are currently operating in our portfolio, we have over 40 megawatts of projects coming online, so that's an opportunity to recycle capital back into the company as those projects come online. As we mentioned in our remarks, San Bernardino project expected to go commercial operations in fiscal q3 and then the the grattan sub base project expected uh late summer of uh this year perfect thanks guys your next question comes from the line of pranith satish from wells fargo your line is open
spk05: Thanks. Good morning. Just wondering if you could comment on support you're seeing generally from the Biden administration for hydrogen adoption. I think there was a proposal by the DOE to try to earlier this week to try to get the cost of green hydrogen down to a dollar per kilogram in a decade. So just curious for your thoughts on this and maybe the likelihood at some point of greater subsidies and the like from the federal government.
spk06: Good morning, Parnit. Thank you, and thank you for that question. You know, we were really pretty optimistic about what the Biden administration is trying to do overall with respect to the energy transition and even, you know, the focus that they're around just strengthening the reliability of the energy grid itself, and we think our technologies will have an opportunity to participate with opportunities around microgrid as well as certainly across the three platforms as we discussed for hydrogen. If you look at the U.S., we certainly see the U.S. trying to figure out how to move the hydrogen economy forward and plan a bit of a catch-up with markets like Europe and Asia in terms of the plans that have been announced across different countries across those regions. But we think that the biodefenestration from everything that we're hearing and conversations that we have with the DOE, as you know, we do a lot of work with the DOE, that there's going to be tremendous support for hydrogen, and we look forward to that. And as we indicated, you know, we've got a DOE-supported project that we're working on that we'll do with Idaho National Labs, which, you know, which really gets to, again, you know, really thinking about how we leverage the multi capabilities of our platform so you know as we as we talked about we we have the ability with our solid oxide platform to produce hydrogen in a very highly efficient manager manners we talked about you know 90 were demonstrating in the prototype that we're running here but to be able to leverage that platform and then integrate and extend the value of nuclear by utilizing waste heat to even make the conversion of that electricity even more efficient. It's just another example of how, one, the Biden administration is supporting our work and leveraging the multiple capabilities of our platform.
spk05: Great, thanks. And just one more question. I'm just wondering if you could give us an update on your carbon capture progress so far and maybe the roadmap there to commercializing it.
spk06: Sure, great question. And what I'll do is I'll maybe ask Tony Leo, our chief technology officer, to give you a sense of the work that we're doing there and the progress that we're making. Sure. So, you know, we're making a lot of progress with our joint development agreement with Exxon, and we'll go back on the objective of that. Our HeartMate platform has been optimized over the years for power generation. The Exxon program is developing power Modifications were designed to optimize it for carbon capture. So what we've been able to do and all the work we've done with them so far is really increase the capability, the amount of power we can make while we capture carbon. We continue to do that work and we continue to think about where the project will be demonstrated. Exxon has publicly talked about doing a demonstration at one of their facilities in the Netherlands in Rotterdam. So we are continuing to develop plans for that demonstration as well as evolve the technology for that project as well as projects beyond the timing. Exxon is still finalizing with us, so we can't be very specific about the timing, but we're happy with the progress we're making. Just to add on to that, as you think about our platform and carbon capture, we think about it as both how do we leverage our platform around carbon capture related to sequestration and apply that technology toward large-scale applications, whether that be gas power generation or industrial-type applications. But also, we think about carbon from a utilization standpoint and all the innovation that's going around, how carbon is utilized in different ways, whether that's making concrete and or plastics, as an example, or traditional uses for carbon, like dry ice pH balancing and water supply. But just to give you an example, again, of our platform with respect to leveraging carbon, you know, we have the ability to capture carbon from our own platform. We can actually purify that CO2 to beverage or food grade and deliver that CO2 to a food company or a beverage company for utilization, whether it be in processing or carbonated beverages, while at the same time with that on-site generation delivering reliable electricity, and as I'm sure you appreciate, you know, the thermal use in most of those locations is another area that our platform can deliver value, but increasingly, you know, deliver energy security to those production facilities in addition to certainly around pricing on carbon as an ingredient in their products, which is going to become an even bigger issue as we continue to see prices put on carbon and or reduction in traditional sources of carbon from a supply standpoint.
spk05: Got it.
spk02: Thanks. Your next question comes from the line of Jed Dorsheimer from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Once again, your next question comes from the line of Jed Dorsheimer from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
spk06: Hey, sorry, I had it on mute. Thanks for taking the question, guys. I guess just on the generation side, what changed in pricing quarter to quarter is, you know, it ticked up but on the same base. How should we – think through those, you know, short-term dynamics there. Hey, Jed, how are you this morning? If we're on Zoom, I would have been able to tell you that you're on mute or something, but, you know, I'm trying to talk.
spk04: Yeah.
spk06: But, no, great question, and I'll actually have Mike Klosowski talk about this a little bit, but in general, right, the way you should think about it is just increased output with the things that we've been doing in terms of enhancing the operations of our current generation portfolio, but Mike, I'll let you speak to that a bit. Yeah, no, Jed, thanks for the question, and Jason, you hit it right on the mark. Jed, really the improvement there is based on the overall output generation of the fleet.
spk05: This is built and centered around the improvements that we've made with respect to replacement of modules at end-of-life and other performance improvements that we've made across the fleet, and those are the drivers for that improvement.
spk06: Got it. Thanks. And then, I guess just the percentage of the base that's gray versus blue. I know the tri-gen and sort of the capture is a relatively small portion, but I'm just curious, what is that percentage? when you say the percentage of the base? So the percentage of the fleet that can do in terms of your base that's able to do gray hydrogen generation that doesn't have any of the capture technology versus what is sort of the non-R&D that's actually capturing the carbon that's considered blue. Yeah, so, Jed, if you think about our existing operating portfolio today, none of those platforms that are currently deployed or grid-connected or behind the meter of the customer are doing electrolysis or hydrogen production. So if you think about our platforms on a go-forward basis, right, our carbonate platform, the way – I would try to get you to think about it as if you think our carbonate platform, we have two ways of delivering hydrogen with our carbonate platform. Across the carbonate platform, we can deliver gray hydrogen, blue hydrogen, or green hydrogen, depending on the configuration for where that platform is deployed. The way that we do that is either with our Trigen platform, so if you just take the Toyota project as an example, where we're using direct biogas, that is going to deliver green hydrogen, carbon neutral power, and water off that Trigen platform. So three value streams get delivered to Toyota. Also with that carbonate platform, we're working to commercialize the ability to take that same carbonate platform and run it in reverse mode for electrolysis. And again, with that platform, depending on the configuration, so let's just take a configuration where we're using natural gas, in this case, to produce hydrogen. We would be using natural gas as an input fuel and electricity and converting that through electrolysis to hydrogen, and in that case, gray hydrogen. But also, if we were using biofuels, that could be green hydrogen. And if we were doing carbon capture with natural gas and electricity, that could be blue hydrogen. And then if you take, thirdly, our solid oxide platform, Again, depending on the configuration, so let's say we were doing electrolysis and we were using the input was renewable energy sources, wind or solar as an example, and we were using that electricity to convert to hydrogen, that would be green hydrogen. But if we were using grid electricity, you know, kind of the blending of, you know, nuclear and renewable and gas and coal, we would be making great hydrogen in that configuration. So it really depends on the configuration. But across both the carbon and solid oxide platform, we have the ability to deliver hydrogen. And depending on the input sources, we can deliver the various colors of hydrogen, if you will. Thanks. That's helpful. So I guess it begs the question, I guess, why focus on the U.S.? Why not focus your efforts on Qatar, for example, which has its entire economy in, you know, based in shipping LNG, where, you know, you would have the most fruitful market in, you know, in terms of is it the infrastructure or the demand for hydrogen is just not there? or is there some other reason instead of focusing on sort of these smaller projects? Yeah, so we are not just focused on the U.S. As we talked about, part of our powerhouse business strategy has been to move our activity into our strengthen and grow phase. Part of that is adding resources, which equates to market coverage. so that we can pursue broader opportunities across the globe. And as we indicated, we're making progress in terms of our hiring there and deploying resources, as well as relationships in various markets to help with those efforts. And we're recruiting some salespeople, Jed, so if you're looking, we need a great salesperson in that part of the world. Sure. Well, listen, I appreciate it. I'll jump back in queue. Thanks.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Noel Parks from Tui Brothers. Your line is open.
spk06: Hey, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Just a couple of things.
spk05: Could you just talk a little bit more about the new project in Derby? I'm just curious about what the lead time was from inception to signing, whether the pricing out of the deal is more or less typical?
spk06: Sure. So let me make sure I'm answering the question you're asking. Are you asking about the 2.8 megawatt award that we discussed? Exactly. Yes. Okay. Yes, so that project was part of a program called Shared Clean Energy Facilities, which was an open competitive bid process that we participated in in the state of Connecticut. And we won that project. as part of that open bid process where we competed against other generation resources like wind and solar. The project award, I want to say the bid process and the award process lasted over several months was the process, and then upon being awarded that project and now having assigned PPA, It's, you know, part of our backlog now, and, you know, we'll intend to move forward with development and construction of that project.
spk05: Great. And for San Bernardino and Grattan Navy are both coming online sort of later in the summer. Just for some perspective, could you talk about, I guess, the usefulness of having new fully live projects as sort of just in demonstration as far as trying to get new contracts?
spk03: And if you were replicating a project like San Bernardino today, I'm just curious what
spk05: Where do you think the cost would be this time around, either efficiencies or lessons learned versus, I guess, maybe labor material service environment?
spk06: Yeah, no, I think I might have missed the first part of your question, but in terms of San Bernardino, maybe I'll speak to that one here just a little bit. And then I'll ask maybe Mike to jump in. So the way you could think about a project like San Bernardino is that it's more representative of other projects that we've done that are leveraging onsite biofuels for the production of carbon neutral power. If you think about that project, just as we did in 2019, if I have my year right, The Tulare project, as an example, where that was another example of a wastewater treatment facility that was using anaerobic digesting to produce biofuels and was actually flaring that gas. We were able to leverage our technology to utilize that fuel to produce clean power at Tulare in the state of California. We're doing the same thing with San Bernardino, which is another example of leveraging onsite biofuels, which we think is a differentiated capability for the company. And, you know, we think that there's opportunities to do that across other areas where wastewater treatment plants or other areas where biofuels are being produced. I mean, so just staying with California for a second, if you look at, you know, legislation there now that requires that food waste not go to recycling, but then to use the center of digesting. That's going to be another source of fuel, as an example, that we'll look to leverage in terms of creating opportunities for the company with that platform. And, you know, that enhances grid reliability and resiliency as well. And so, you know, we're very excited about those kind of opportunities. The other example is if you think about the project you mentioned on the Navy base in Groton, Connecticut, that's an example where we are excited about the fact that we're participating in a project where the U.S. government and the military is committed to enhancing reliability on its installations. There, with our platform, we will be able to provide microgrid services to the Navy in addition to grid power to the Glotton area, enhancing the reliability of not only the grid, but enhancing the reliability of the naval-based operations as well.
spk02: Great.
spk06: And yeah, I was sort of getting at, as, oh, sorry, was somebody else going to jump in? No, go ahead. Okay. Well, just thinking if the next time around, if you had a similar water treatment project, do you think the cost this time around, you know, how many years later after your prior one would be similar? Do you think there's a cost curve you can scale?
spk05: I guess I'm just trying to think about how the economics might change as you replicate more and more projects like this over time.
spk06: Yeah, so I think if I'm understanding your question correctly, obviously every project we do, there are opportunities that we take away from a learning perspective, that we learn how to maybe think about doing on-site construction differently, how we think about our sourcing of EPC contractors as we build scale and in our manufacturing projects. capabilities, you know, all those things will contribute to us being able to lower actual costs, you know, of the next platform, right? And so we look to continuously through continuous improvement and lean manufacturing and the way in which we approach each and every project to find ways to bring down overall costs every time. And to your point, in terms of the next project, keep in mind that, right, the technology that we're deploying is, you know, replicatable. It's the same technology. It's our same proprietary gas cleanup skid. It's our same carbon and fuel cell platform. So, you know, we're not doing something new every time, and that adds to, obviously, the efficiency and opportunities to drive down costs.
spk05: Great. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
spk02: Due to time constraints, we are going to have each other limited to one question. Your next question is from the line of Jeff Osborne from Keller and Company. Your line is open.
spk01: Hey, guys. Just a couple, or actually one, sorry. The Connecticut 6524 program, is Beacon Falls eligible for that?
spk06: Yes. Well, first of all, I should say hello, Jeff. How are you this morning? But the answer is yes, a project like that would fall into that legislation, assuming signature by the governor. All right, perfect. Thank you.
spk02: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Souther from B. Riley. Your line is open. Just a quick one then on module exchange timing for the rest of the year. Are there any other key module exchanges that you're expecting throughout the year?
spk06: How should we think about the timing of some of that? Chris, thank you very much. Great question. This is Mike Lasowski. So as you know, module replacements, they're an ordinary part of our business, and we do them when we need to do them. And overall, our field replacement plan remains unchanged. We're really focused around for specific projects going forward in the future that we're going to be making module exchanges, and that's really a mixture of land between projects that are in our generation portfolio as well as under service agreement. And our manufacturing plan is in alignment with supporting those module replacements, so we're well-positioned to support that.
spk02: Understood. And just another one, if I could here, sorry, to kind of delay things.
spk06: But I wanted to get a sense of the pipeline, you know, if you could kind of break it down between, you know, people looking at what you guys are going to be doing with Toyota and, you know, seeing potential with, you know, some of these additional value streams versus their distributed generation and then some of the, you know, longer-term opportunities, you know, where if you could kind of break down the pipeline to kind of piggyback on Jed's question before. Thank you. Just to give you maybe a broad sense in terms of how we think about that and the opportunities we're pursuing, we see a lot of opportunities around the leveraging biogas like we just talked about. We also see opportunities for our platform as you think about edge data centers. When you think about what an edge data center needs, it needs reliable power. It also needs a lot of chilling, and the fact that we can integrate with work from chilling creates an opportunity for us. We're seeing opportunities across both the education and healthcare sectors, food and beverage, as I described. We see opportunities around government sectors, i.e., military, as the fortification of our installations across the U.S. continues to be an important priority for the administration. And across industrial and process type of manufacturing, we're seeing, you know, growing demand for not only reliability, but frankly as a way to try to find authentic ways to try to really contribute to decarbonization as opposed to, you know, what's typically done in terms of leveraging like virtual PPAs around renewable energy. And then we certainly anticipate when it comes to microgrids, both for commercial and industrial customers, but also for utilities, there's an increasing, you know, desire to implement microgrids so that they can ensure that essential resources remain online. And with microgrids, you know, having the opportunity to eliminate or significantly reduce a lot of the above-ground risk we're seeing a lot more interest in those kind of opportunities and then certainly across growing you know demand around pharma and biotech as well where we're seeing you know opportunity for reliable power generation as you can imagine those facilities require reliable power a lot of money is spent in R&D and so having power available is critical and then being able to leverage you know aspects of our platform like steam in their manufacturing process so again you know, really focusing on customer segments and opportunities where we can deliver enhanced value to the customer by really leveraging the full capabilities of our platform. So hopefully that gives you a sense of customer segments.
spk02: Okay. No, that's very helpful. Thanks, guys.
spk05: Thank you. Thank you.
spk02: From the line of Eric Stein from Craig Howland, your line is open.
spk04: Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Eric.
spk06: Good morning.
spk04: Hey, just wanted to touch on the product side of the business. I know that's clearly a focus. You talked about reengaging there. So maybe what have been some of the gating factors? What are some of the steps you're taking and, you know, maybe a time frame to when you think that you start to see some traction there?
spk06: Sure. Eric, in terms of the product, are you talking about the sales pipeline?
spk04: No, I'm talking about just product sales. I mean, obviously you're making great strides, growing generation, but I know selling product along with that as part of the mix is one of your objectives. So just thoughts there.
spk06: Yeah, so, you know, as we've been working through our business strategy, One of the things that we focused the first several months obviously on fixing our balance sheet and creating some liquidity for the company. Our sales cycle generally for our utility scale projects range anywhere between 12 to 18 months. And so if you think about where we are on that timeline, we fully anticipate that we'll start to convert projects that we have in our pipeline the sales, and many of those opportunities, you know, kind of around the world are opportunities to actually be product sales, but obviously with each one of those, we bundle a service agreement that runs coterminous with the life of the asset, so that's generally a 20-year kind of service agreement as well. So, you know, we fully expect to start to see some of those convert to sales opportunities, and you'll see a a mix of product sales in addition to what you've traditionally seen for us for a while now, you know, PPAs as well.
spk04: Got it. Thank you.
spk02: There are no further questions. I'll now turn the call back over to Jason for closing remarks.
spk06: Jason, thank you all again for joining us today. We will continue to execute on our powerhouse business strategy, working to deliver profitable growth and optimize returns. The Fuel Cell Energy team is excited about our work to deliver on our purpose to enable the world to live a life empowered by clean energy, and we are committed to delivering long-term shareholder value. Thank you for joining our call today, and I hope everyone has a great day. Thank you.
spk02: That concludes today's conference call. Thank you, everybody, for joining. You may now disconnect.
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