2/9/2021

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Welcome to the fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings call-in webcast. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touch-tone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Scott Crowley, Corporate Controller. Please go ahead.

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Scott Crowley
Corporate Controller

Thank you, Sarah. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss First Financial Bancorp's fourth quarter and full year 2020 financial results. Participating on today's call will be Archie Brown, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jamie Anderson, Chief Financial Officer, and Bill Herod, Chief Credit Officer. Both the press release we issued yesterday and the accompanying slide presentation are available on our website at www.bankitfirst.com under the investor relations section. We will make reference to the slides contained in the accompanying presentation during today's call. Additionally, please refer to the forward-looking statement disclosure contained in the fourth quarter 2020 earnings release, as well as our SEC filings for a full discussion of the company's risk factors. The information we will provide today is accurate as of December 31, 2020 and and we will not be updating any forward-looking statements to reflect facts or circumstances after this call. I'll now turn the call over to Archie Brown.

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Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Yesterday afternoon, we announced our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2020. Before I turn the call over to Jamie to discuss those results in greater detail, I want to reflect on this past year and then provide some highlights from the most recent quarter. When considering a year in which we encountered a global pandemic, experienced widespread government-mandated business shutdowns and stay-at-home orders, and a reduction in the Fed funds rate of 150 basis points, I'm very pleased with our response to these challenges and our overall management of the company. Despite the challenging back-profit 2020, we grew loans and deposit balances, achieved record CNI in mortgage loan production, assets under management, fee income, and total revenues. On an adjusted basis, we earned $1.66 per diluted share, achieved a 1.05% return on average assets, strengthened Tier 1 common equity and total capital, significantly bolstered our allowance for credit losses from 0.63% of loans to 1.77%, and experienced low levels of charge-offs. Business conditions remained difficult in the fourth quarter. However, our quarterly financial metrics earnings per share of 51 cents, adjusted return on assets of 1.23%, and an adjusted efficiency ratio of 56.8%. An increase in interest income, which includes PPP, loan forgiveness fees, strong mortgage banking, and record foreign exchange income drove our solid quarterly results. Loan origination activity rebounded to near record levels with record production in CNI and continued strong production in mortgage. Transactional deposit growth was, again, very strong, with increases from the prior quarter of $544 million on average, or 22% annualized, with all client segments seeing growth. Our sub-60% efficiency ratio reflected our diligent expense management, despite adapting to a remote working environment, continued investment in processes and technologies that position the company, for long-term success. Credit trends remain relatively stable. However, with COVID-19 cases in the Midwest remaining at peak levels, a slower than anticipated vaccine rollout, and general economic uncertainty, we recorded $11.5 million of provision expense, resulting in an increase in our allowance for credit losses to 1.89% of total loans, excluding PPP. We believe the increase in our allowance has positioned us to absorb future losses anticipated by the pandemic or otherwise. I am most pleased with the response of our associates and their commitment to our clients and communities. They demonstrated amazing flexibility and resilience in pivoting from normal business activities and processes to working remotely or with significant changes to their in-office routines. From the beginning of the pandemic, we prioritized keeping our associates safe and engaged and which enabled them to support our clients in one of the most stressful and uncertain periods in our history. Our associates were constant stewards, embodying our organizational belief that banking is an essential function in the lives of consumers, businesses, and our communities, and were focused on ensuring that we remain faithful to our mission. Notably, our corporate-wide effort in granting approximately 7,000 PPP loans, totaling over $900 million, in a matter of months was something to remember. I'm very proud of the effort and commitment of our First Financial team. I'll now turn the call over to Jamie to discuss the details of our fourth quarter results, and then after Jamie's discussion, I'll wrap up with an update on CARES Act modifications, our hotel and franchise portfolios, and then provide some forward-looking commentary. Jamie.

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Archie, and good morning, everyone. Slides four and five provide a summary of our fourth quarter and full year 2020 results. As Archie mentioned, we were very happy with our fourth quarter financial performance. Earnings continued their upward trajectory as loan fees led to an increase in the net interest margin and fee income remained particularly strong. In addition, our expense base remained relatively flat and provision expense declined from third quarter levels as asset quality remained relatively benign. While our level of non-performing loans has remained stable, we recorded $11.5 million of provision expense during the quarter. We believe our current reserve levels have reached their peak and position us to absorb expected credit deterioration as the economic impact of the pandemic further materializes in 2021. Once again, our capital ratios improved during the quarter and remain in excess of both internal and regulatory targets. We believe that our balance sheet is well-positioned and our stress testing results continue to indicate that our core fundamentals provide us with the ability to maintain these levels for the foreseeable future. With this in mind, we will continue to evaluate any near-term capital deployment and share buyback opportunities to capitalize on the strength of our balance sheet. Net interest margin increased 13 basis points compared to the prior quarter, driven by higher loan fees and disciplined deposit cost reductions. Given the low interest rate environment, we will continue to face pressure on asset yields. However, we believe that the fundamental pieces of the core net interest margin will remain relatively stable as we head into 2021. Similar to recent trends, fee income was the highlight of the quarter and was the principal driver of our operating results. Mortgage banking exceeded expectations, despite declining from record levels in the third quarter. In addition, Bain & Clearn had another record quarter of foreign exchange income, and deposit service charges maintained their gradual ascent to pre-pandemic levels. While not part of our operating results, it's also noteworthy that we recorded a non-operating gain related to our Class B visa shares. During the quarter, we sold a portion of our shares to a third party, and the remaining shares were recorded on the balance sheet at their current market value. We utilized the total gain of $13.4 million to fund the first financial foundation and pay off higher-cost FHLB borrowings. Fourth quarter results indicate that we remain well-positioned from a regulatory capital standpoint. As capital ratios improve across the board, on a late quarter basis. Total capital increased 18 basis points, and our tangible common equity ratio increased 22 basis points in the fourth quarter to 8.47%, or 8.83%, excluding the impact of PPP. Additionally, our tangible book value per share grew by 37 cents to $12.93 at the end of the year. Slide 6 reconciles our GAAP earnings to adjusted earnings, highlighting items that we believe are important to understanding our quarterly performance. Adjusted net income was $49.7 million, or 51 cents per share for the quarter, which excludes the aforementioned Visa B gain, $7.3 million of debt extinguishment costs, a $5.1 million write-down of a tax credit investment, a $5 million contribution to the First Financial Foundation, and $2.9 million of COVID-related and other non-recurring items such as branch consolidation costs. As depicted on slide 7, these adjusted earnings equate to a return on average assets of 1.23% and a return on average tangible common equity of 15.9%. Our 56.8% adjusted efficiency ratio remains very strong despite elevated incentive compensation tied to our fee income. Turning to slide eight, net interest margin increased 13 basis points from the linked quarter to 3.49%. This increase was primarily related to higher loan fees, which were driven by PPP forgiveness. Basic net interest margin declined slightly due to the negative impact from changes in our asset mix. In the first quarter, we expect some benefit to the margin, as we prepaid $120 million of longer-term FHLB debt late in the fourth quarter, the full impact of which will be realized in 2021. Slide 9 shows our yields and costs and average balance changes. Loan yields increased 18 basis points, and the investment yield dropped 15 basis points. A higher mix of investment securities is putting pressure on total asset yields as we increase the balance in our investment portfolio due to the liquidity on the balance sheet. On the funding side, we continue to aggressively lower our cost of deposits, which declined 7 basis points during the period to 20 basis points. These lower deposit costs reflect strategic rate adjustments as well as a shift in funding mix from higher-priced retail and brokered CDs to lower-cost core deposits. Slide 10 illustrates our current loan mix and balance changes compared to the linked quarter. Excluding the decline in PPP loans, end-of-period loan balances were flat as increases in ICRE and CNI loans were offset by modest declines in all other loan types. Slide 11 shows the mix of our deposit base as well as a progression of average deposits from the third quarter. In total, average deposit balances grew $362 million during the fourth quarter, driven by increases in non-interest-bearing accounts, public funds, and transactional deposits. We remain very pleased with the trajectory of deposit balances, as average non-interest-bearing deposits grew $173 million during the quarter. with additional growth expected as the most recent round of stimulus checks are dispersed to our clients. Deposit pricing remains a near-term focus, and we will continue to make any necessary adjustments based on market conditions and our funding needs. Slide 12 highlights our non-interest income for the quarter. As I mentioned previously, fourth quarter fee income remained strong and was driven by record foreign exchange, and elevated mortgage banking income. We were also pleased that service charges continued to rebound and wealth management fees were in line with expectations. Non-interest expense for the quarter is outlined on slide 13. Overall, expenses increased compared to the late quarter. However, they were relatively flat on an operating basis. The increase was driven by $7.3 million of debt extinguishment costs, a $5.1 million write-down of a tax credit, and a $5 million contribution to the First Financial Foundation. Additionally, we incurred $2.9 million of COVID-19-related and other costs not expected to recur since it's branch consolidation costs. Turning your attention to slide 14, our fourth quarter ACL model resulted in a total allowance which includes both funded and unfunded reserves of $188 million and $11.5 million in total provision for credit losses. The model utilized the Moody's baseline economic forecast released at the end of December, which was slightly improved from the forecast utilized in the third quarter. Similar to the first three quarters of 2020, the majority of the fourth quarter's provision expense related to the expected economic impact from COVID. At this point in time, we believe we've captured the risk from future COVID-related credit stress and do not anticipate further reserve bills in the near term. As shown on slide 15, asset quality remains stable as we had $6.6 million of net charge-offs for the period and only slight increases in non-performing and classified asset levels. Net charge-offs were 26 basis points as a percentage of loans which remains lower than historical levels, despite the slight increase compared to the linked quarter. While our credit metrics don't reflect much stress at the current time and our portfolio performed better than we might have anticipated at the beginning of 2020, we expect some deterioration in 2021 as the economic impact from COVID continues to materialize. Finally, as shown on slides 16 and 17, capital ratios remain strong and are in excess of regulatory minimums. Each of our capital ratios increased during the quarter, and all ratios continue to exceed internal targets. Our tangible common equity ratio grew by 22 basis points during the period, and our tangible book value increased to $12.93. Once again, we do not anticipate any near-term changes to the common dividend. However, we will continue to evaluate various capital actions as the economic impact of the COVID pandemic further materializes. I'll now turn it back over to Archie for commentary related to specific areas of focus in the loan portfolio, our deferral program, and our outlook going forward.

speaker
Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Archie. Thank you, Jamie. Given the continued economic circumstances related to the COVID-19 pandemic, we've updated slides 20 through 22, which cover CARES Act modifications in our hotel and franchise portfolios. As can be seen on slide 20, I'm very pleased with the substantial reduction in our CARES Act modifications at year end. Only $29 million in loan balances are on full payment deferral. With another $291 million in loan balances making interest-only payments, bringing our total loan modifications to $320 million at year end. Additionally, of the loans that have exited deferral, we've not seen any material credit issues. Slide 21 provides a detail on our hotel portfolio, which will require additional time to stabilize. It makes up $186 million for 58% of our total CARES Act modifications as of December 31st. The overall health of the hotel portfolio was strong pre-COVID, and we've seen limited deterioration in average LTVs and updated appraisals. Given time and additional stimulus measures, we believe this portfolio will eventually stabilize, but in the meantime, we'll continue to monitor the status of our borrowers and work with them to ensure the best possible outcome. Our franchise portfolio, as seen on slide 22, has also improved substantially, with $44 million in CARES Act modifications remaining at year end. Drive-through and delivery concepts have demonstrated strong performance, while buffet-style concepts within our sit-down book continue to be impacted by pandemic-related headwinds. As the vaccine becomes more widely distributed, we expect the performance of this concept to improve. Looking for outlook, slide 23 provides some forward-looking guidance, which will soon be impacted by the ongoing pandemic and related government stimulus programs in 2021. Loan growth excluding PPP is expected to remain flat over the near term, as we've seen pressure in certain portfolios, but we expect improvement and continue to target mid-single-digit growth for the year. Regarding deposit balances, we expect further increases given our current round 3 PPP pipeline and potential for additional stimulus activity. The net interest margin is expected to be positively impacted by further PPP forgiveness payoffs and the associated accelerated fee recognition over the next several quarters. Excluding our more volatile variables such as PPP fees, purchase accounting, loan fees, we expect the margin to be relatively stable. Regarding credit, the full impact of the pandemic is yet to play out. However, we expect moderate declines in our provision expense going forward. We've added $130 million to our allowance for credit losses during 2020 to address future losses that may materialize. This brings our total ACL to greater than three times the balance at 12-31-19. We do not anticipate any further increases to the reserve as a percentage of loans moving forward. Specific to fee income, we expect continued strong mortgage originations in the first quarter. However, we expect some seasonal decline in volume and lower premiums. Foreign exchange income should remain strong, but below the peak level of our fourth quarter performance. Paused service charges are expected to continue to move toward the pre-pandemic trend after seasonal lows in the first quarter. With respect to expenses, we expect to be in the range of $88 to $92 million per quarter, but this could fluctuate some with fee income. In light of accelerated changes in customer behavior observed during the pandemic, we continue to evaluate our distribution channel for opportunities to become more efficient. In this quarter, we'll consolidate three banking centers. Lastly, given our strong earnings and capital position, we expect to resume share repurchases in the first quarter using our newly authorized share repurchase program, and we'll look to be active in the market in the first quarter. 2020 was a challenging year for many, and I'm extremely proud of how our associates came together to support the well-being of our customers and communities. I'm also very pleased with our strong financial performance this year. the overall safety and soundness of our company, and our ability to remain focused on growing long-term shareholder value despite the challenging business conditions. As we move forward into 2021, we remain confident in our ability to navigate this difficult operating environment and believe we have positioned the company for even stronger financial performance when the health crisis subsides. We'll now open up the call for questions.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the key. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question is from Scott Cyphers with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

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Scott Cyphers
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Hey. I was just curious. You've given a lot of good color on credit expectations, and you certainly have a pretty substantial reserve right now. Just as you look through the course of the year, to the extent you're comfortable, I was hoping you might give us a sense for where you would expect actual loss content to kind of peak out and sort of when that manifests itself. You know, is that a first half event or – second half of the year. How are you thinking about those dynamics?

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Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Scott. You know, so it's still going to be dependent upon what happens with the pandemic and vaccine distribution. But I would say we were talking kind of mid part of the year into third quarter probably is where I think we would see it peaking now. And, you know, again, that's going to be somewhat dependent upon what happens with some of those, you know, bigger issues in the economy. Okay. Bill, any other comments on that? No, that's accurate.

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Scott Cyphers
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. And any sense for sort of order of magnitude of deterioration? Your losses are so low now, and you've got a very substantial reserve, which under CECL is presumably there to pull expected lifetime losses or sort of have a bucket for lifetime losses. And any sense for order of magnitude of deterioration?

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Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Scott, I don't know that we have a sense for it yet. We saw just a little bit more in Q4. For the year, losses were 14 basis points. For the quarter, 26, and it was primarily related to one buffet-style concept in which some stores, we've learned some stores with that one bar are not going to reopen. They've been closed permanently, so we made a partial charge for that. We had limited deterioration outside of that. So it's difficult to say, you know, right now I'd say they're still going to be on the lower side. As we get further here, we may have a little more clarity, but it doesn't feel like a significant increase in charge-offs at this moment.

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Scott Cyphers
Analyst, Piper Sandler

All right. Perfect. Thank you. And then just in terms of overall loan growth, which presumably will snap back in the second half, I'm just curious, when you're talking about mid-single digits, Is that for the full year on a next PPP basis, or are you suggesting that we just sort of snap back to a mid-single-digit annualized rate in the second half of the year? In other words, I guess I'm getting to order of magnitude of that snapback.

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Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we think it's still mid-single-digit growth for the full year, Scott. You know, what we've seen is commercial CNI originations and production is strong. really strong in the fourth quarter record levels. And that momentum, we believe, is going to continue and grow stronger through the year. Where we saw pressure was with all the mortgage production, we saw some pressure on the mortgage portfolio, the loans we keep on balance sheet getting refinanced down. Home equity pressure got refinanced down. And then franchise, which we are probably more intentionally running down, we had some additional payoffs there. So that's where we saw pressure. But C&I production is strong, and we still feel like as we come out of the pandemic, there's going to be some good momentum. Perfect.

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Scott Cyphers
Analyst, Piper Sandler

All right. Thank you very much.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Yep. Our next question comes from John Ashton with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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John Ashton
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Hey, John. Hey, John. Archie, that's good to hear on CNI. That's a good sign. I guess maybe, Bill, maybe, Archie, more a theoretical question, but in a normal, stable economy, what kind of reserve levels do you think you would need to hold? What would be more normal for your company? I know it's a tough question, but just what are your thoughts on that?

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Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, John, I would say somewhere probably in that 130-ish kind of range. I think it's where you think if we were in the middle of a pandemic and we were kind of in just normal business conditions, probably at that level. Yeah.

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

So, John, this is Jamie. So, you know, if you look at, you know, where our day one CECL number came out, it was about $119 million, which was $129 of loans. So, I mean, in theory, you would say we get down somewhere into that level, whether it's, you know, in that $125 to $135 range, but, you know, somewhere back to that level as things start to stabilize.

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John Ashton
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. And then, Jamie, one of your last comments was you expect some deterioration in credit in 21. I think what you're saying is charge-offs. Is that right? Charge-offs.

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we're talking about, you know, just on the back side of the pandemic, you know, expecting some lift in charge-offs, which, again, we've already baked that into the reserve, right? So, yeah, expecting that to flow through. And really, you know, it's kind of back to Scott's question that he had before is just, you know, with the order of magnitude of what those charge-offs are. But, you know, at this point, you know, a little more optimistic than what we would have been in the, you know, in the spring of 20. But, yeah, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about a lift in the level of charge-offs.

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John Ashton
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

So, really, the underlying message is not to put words in your mouth, but very little at least in the near term until growth picks up in terms of provisioning required. Is that fair? And that the charge-offs would just come out of existing reserves?

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Correct. Yeah, unless something would change, you know, from a macro level at this point, you know, we would, you know, in any given quarter, you know, it could be lumpy as well, right? Charge-offs work. But in any given quarter, unless things would deteriorate from this point, you know, at most we would be providing for the charge-offs and probably releasing some reserves going forward.

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John Ashton
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, okay, okay. And then last topic is just margin. I think it's nice. I know you're fighting the good fight on this, but, you know, it's nice to see the words relative stability. Can you help us understand some of the puts and takes and maybe – the magnitude of the, you know, debt prepayment benefit to them.

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Yep. So, I mean, obviously we're going to see, I mean, with rate stabilizing, I mean, we're still going to, but at a lower level, we're going to see, you know, reinvestment rates on the securities portfolio, putting pressure on yields, and then just overall, you know, some lagging repricing on the loan side, putting pressure on, We still have a little bit of room on the deposit side. Fourth quarter deposit costs were 20 basis points. We see those coming down into the low teens in the middle of 21. And then, again, we did pay off those FHLV advances, which were $120 million at a cost of about $250 million. So that's going to save us, you know, in the ballpark of about $3 million, a little bit less than $3 million, but close to $3 million a year.

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John Ashton
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Good. Last editorial comment, but business conditions remain difficult is something you said a couple times, Archie, and it's notable to me that you put up a 16 return on tangible equity in this environment. So just say nice job, guys.

speaker
Bill Herod
Chief Credit Officer

Thank you. Thanks, John.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Our next question comes from Chris McGrady with KBW. Please go ahead.

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Hey, good morning. Chris McGrady. Can we maybe start with you on the margin? I think I just want to make sure I got the jumping off point. The stability that you're talking about is relative to that basic 291, you know, plus the factors you identified, right?

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Yeah, so we will get some volatility here. And, you know, like we do in loan fees, obviously with PPP, you know, that's going to bounce around. You know, we have a little bit of volatility quarter to quarter in purchase accounting. But, yes, we're talking about that kind of, you know, core 291, you know, excluding all those factors.

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

And what are the remaining – revenues coming from PPP and the accretion that we should model in?

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so at year end, our total PPP balances are right at, we're right at $600 million, and the remaining fees related to those is just under $14 million, $13.7.

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

And on the accretion, how do we...

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

On the accretion, help me out with what you're asking.

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

No, just the what's left of the purchase accounting coming through.

speaker
Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

On the purchase accounting from the last deal, is that what you're asking?

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Yeah, exactly. Sorry about that.

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Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Hang on. Let me get that. Yeah, so, I mean, we had 12 basis points of purchase accounting accretion in the fourth quarter, and, I mean, we should see roughly that and it trailing off here over the next year or so.

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Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Okay. Okay, so is the message, if we just take a step back and understand the challenges of predicting margin in this environment, is the message that mid-single-digit loan growth and a little bit of of a lower NIM should allow for general stability in core NII? Is that a right interpretation?

speaker
Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, excluding the PPP fees, correct, yeah.

speaker
Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Yeah, okay. Yep. Okay. And then just finally on the pace of capital return, how do I think about the $5 million, which I know is a two-year authorization, against NII? you know, some cautious optimism on the economy. How aggressive are you going to be with the buyback?

speaker
Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean, I think we're going to be methodical about it and not, you know, we're not going to do $5 million in the first quarter by any stretch, but, you know, I think we will be, you know, in the market, but, you know, kind of at a, you know, consistent level and then kind of see how the market you know, see how the pandemic materializes here and what credit looks like and really constantly kind of taking a look at credit and seeing what it looks like. But, you know, if we said we would do, you know, in that ballpark of a million shares a quarter, you know, that would be plus or minus where we would be.

speaker
Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Okay. Thanks for that. And then just lastly on the tax rate, obviously there's a lot of moving parts this quarter. What's the right – number we should be using going forward?

speaker
Jamie Anderson
Chief Financial Officer

18%.

speaker
Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

And that's a gap? That's a gap number, right?

speaker
Bill Herod
Chief Credit Officer

Yes.

speaker
Chris McGrady
Analyst, KBW

Perfect. Thanks for all the help.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one. Our next question comes from David Long with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

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David Long
Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning, everyone. Good morning. It's encouraging to hear about the C&I growth pipeline and the numbers that you're talking about there. Just curious where the growth is coming from. Have you been taking market share? Have you hired? Or is this just the overall health of your client base at this point?

speaker
Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, David, I think it's a little of each. We are taking some share of clients from competing banks. That started – probably more pronounced after the early round of PPP last year where we had some nice wins that came because of some competition maybe not meeting some expectations of their borrowers. We started to get some windfall there. We have added bankers in the larger middle market space throughout the latter part of 2020 and they are now starting to produce some nice new relationships for us across our footprint. So I'd say it's those two primary drivers. And overall, I mean, our client base is pretty strong. We're seeing that, you know, obviously with liquidity that our clients have and that's sitting in our bank, as well as just general, again, low delinquencies, just general better credit performance than we were thinking a few months ago.

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David Long
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. And then just if you could comment on the spreads that you're seeing in the C&I business. It still seems to be pretty competitive. In past cycles coming out, you've seen some widening of the spreads, but I haven't been hearing that this cycle. Just curious what you're seeing on commercial spreads at this point.

speaker
Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I don't think they've improved at this point. So I'd say they're kind of similar if anything, maybe slightly tighter than they were even a couple months ago. So it's pretty competitive out there.

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David Long
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

Yep. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Archie Brown for any closing remarks.

speaker
Archie Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you very much, Sarah. I want to thank all of you for joining today and learning more about our quarter. We look forward to talking to you. Later in the year. Have a great day. Bye now.

speaker
Sarah
Conference Specialist

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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