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spk01: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the first Hawaiian Inc. Q1 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Mr. Kevin Haseyama, Investor Relations Manager. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, Tanya, and thank you everyone for joining us as we review our financial results for the first quarter of 2024. With me today are Bob Harrison, Chairman, President, and CEO, Jamie Moses, Chief Financial Officer, and Lee Nakamura, Chief Risk Officer. We have prepared a slide presentation that we will refer to in our remarks today. The presentation is available for downloading and viewing on our website at fhb.com in the investor relations section. During today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements, so please refer to slide one for our safe harbor statement. We may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. The appendix to this presentation contains reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measurements to the most directly comparable GAAP measurements. And now I'll turn the call over to Bob.
spk07: Morning, everyone. I'll start with an overview of the local economy. Hawaii economy continues to perform well with the state unemployment rate remaining low, tourism is steady, and the construction industry is healthy. Statewide seasonally adjusted unemployment rate for March was 3.1% compared to the national unemployment rate of 3.8%. Statewide visitor industry has continued to recover faster than expected following the Maui wildfires, but still remains slightly below 2023 levels. The legislative session is wrapping up, and additional funding was secured for the Hawaii Tourism Authority, and a new marketing campaign was announced a couple days ago, so things are looking up for that. Through February, total visitor arrivals were down 0.6%, and spending was down 1.9% compared to 2023 levels. That was primarily due to declines on Maui. Excluding Maui, arrivals and spending were above 2023 levels. Growth in international visitors have helped offset declining visitors from the U.S. mainland, with increases in Japanese visitors making up most of the increase in the international arrivals. The housing market is relatively stable despite reduced activity levels. In March, the median sales price for a single family home on Oahu was $1.1 million, a 1.5% higher than 2023. The median sales price for condos on Oahu was $500,000, 6.7% below the previous year. Turning to slide two, I'll go over the highlights of our first quarter financial performance. We started the year with a solid quarter. Net income was $54.3 million, or 42 cents per share. The return on average tangible assets was 0.94%. And the return on average tangible common equity was 14.53%. As expected, the net interest margin expanded in the first quarter. This drove a $2.6 million increase in net interest income versus the prior quarter. Turning to slide three, we continue to execute the balance sheet optimization that started in the fourth quarter with the sale of $526 million of investment securities. During the first quarter, we used those proceeds to pay down about $470 million of higher cost public time deposits. The duration of the investment portfolio increased slightly in Q1 as a result of the security sale during the prior quarter. Our balance sheet strength continued to increase as we grew capital levels and have ample liquidity. Turning to slide four, period end loans and leases were $14.3 billion, about $33 million lower than December 31st. Line draws for ongoing construction projects drove the $72 million increase in construction loans. We did continue to face headwinds due to the slowdown of residential real estate market and the continued runoff in the indirect auto portfolio. We still believe that loan demand will pick up in the second half of the year, and that full-year growth will be in the low single-digit range. Now I'll turn it over to Jamie.
spk03: Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Turning to slide five, total deposit balances declined by $663 million, primarily due to the $470 million decrease in public time deposits. The decrease in higher cost public time was intentional and was part of the overall balance sheet actions that we announced on our last call. Retail deposits increased by $142 million in the first quarter, and that was offset by a $355 million decline in commercial deposits. The drop in commercial deposits was primarily due to normal fluctuations in a few large commercial accounts, as well as about $170 million of insurance payments related to the Maui wildfires. The non-interest bearing deposit ratio was 34% at the end of the quarter. The rate of increase in deposit costs continued to slow down in the first quarter. Our total cost of deposits for the quarter was 165 basis points, a nine basis point increase from the prior quarter. Turning to slide six, net interest income increased $2.6 million from the prior quarter to $154.4 million. And our reported net interest margin increased by 10 basis points to 2.91%. We had a non-recurring interest income related to the recognition of interest on deferred loans tied to the Maui wildfires that added about $1.5 million to interest income and three basis points to the margin in the first quarter. The spot NIM in March was 2.87%, and we are projecting the NIM in the second quarter to be about 2.89%. We do expect that the NIN will increase about one to two basis points per quarter for the remainder of the year. Through the end of the first quarter, the cumulative betas were 46.5% on interest-bearing deposits and 30.2% on total deposits. Turning to slide seven, non-interest income was $51.4 million, $7 million less than the prior quarter. We had about $2 million of non-recurring income in Q2, excuse me, in Q1, as a result of insurance proceeds we received for losses we incurred during the Lahaina wildfires. We continued to expect quarterly non-interest income to be in the $49 to $50 million range. Non-interest expenses were $128.8 million in the first quarter and included a $4.1 million FDIC special assessment. Excluding that special assessment, expenses were in line with our expectations, and we continued to expect full-year expenses to be around $500 million. Now I'll turn it over to Leigh.
spk10: Thank you, Jamie. Moving to slide eight, the bank maintained its strong credit performance and healthy credit metrics in the first quarter. While we have seen some modest deterioration in credit quality, our experience so far is well within our expectations. We are not observing any broad signs of weakness across either the consumer or commercial loan books, and we have more than sufficient loan loss coverage. Classified assets increased by $64.3 million driven by several downgraded credits. This caused the ratio of classified assets to total loans and leases to increase by 45 basis points to 64 basis points of total loans and leases. Of that $64.3 million increase, $24.4 million was paid off in full after the end of the first quarter. Year to date net charge offs were $3.8 million. Our annualized year to date net charge off rate was 11 basis points, two basis points higher than in the fourth quarter. Non-performing assets and loans past due 90 days or more were 15 basis points of total loans and leases at the end of the first quarter, unchanged from the prior quarter. And finally, the bank recorded a $6.3 million provision in the first quarter. Moving to slide nine, we show our first quarter allowance for credit losses broken out by disclosure segment. The asset ACL increased by $3.3 million to $159.8 million, with coverage rising three basis points to 1.12% of total loans and leases. The ACL continues to include a reserve for the potential impact of the Maui wildfires. This estimate includes the potential impact to borrowers located both inside and outside of the fire zones, as well as any insurance coverage. Turning to slide 10, we provide an updated snapshot of our commercial real estate exposure. CRE represents approximately 30% of our total loans and leases. Credit quality remains strong, with LTVs manageable and criticized loans continuing to comprise a very small portion of the portfolio. Let me now turn the call back to Bob for any closing remarks.
spk07: Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Lee. We welcome any questions that you would have.
spk01: Certainly. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And one moment for our first question. And our first question will come from David Pfister of Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk05: Hey, good morning, everybody. Morning, Dave. Doing great. Maybe just touching on the margin side a bit. Appreciate all the color that you guys gave. But, I mean, really, like the key driver to the margin is going to be deposit performance, right, especially on the NIB front. I'm curious if you could help us maybe think through how the NIB balance is trended throughout the quarter and just any thoughts on overall core deposits.
spk03: uh growth in the initiatives that you've got in place um from that perspective just just curious kind of on the deposit side how you think things play out yeah uh thanks dave it's jamie um you know it's in in terms of you know one part of your question right which was sort of performance throughout the quarter um most of the non-interest bearing uh decline that we saw that happened in uh january and february moderated quite a bit in march um But our guide forward does include some continued, you know, noninterest-bearing movement from, you know, again, from NIB into some interest-bearing deposit accounts. And I think you kind of nailed the forward NIM expectations as well, right? That is, that's going to be kind of entirely driven by how that performance, about how that migration happens throughout the year. You know, we, in our modeling, right, with our guidance, that kind of, that implies some decrease from Q1 into Q2, continued moderation in Q3, and continued moderation in Q4. So, that's kind of what the basis for our NIM guidance is. And then, as it relates to deposit gathering initiatives, I think, you know, we're really continue to be focused on generating net new checking accounts is really where the focus is. You know, we have our securities portfolio continues to run off. We're going to continue to do that. So our need to grow deposits is moderated a little bit because of that. And with our loan growth guidance in sort of the low single digit area, The need to really be hyper competitive and go out and gather new money market accounts or newer CDs and things like that. It's kind of I would say if we have moderate need for those things So we're really focused on net new checking accounts and then the second part of that in terms of deposits really comes down to our relationships, right and so we want to make sure that that we continue to be there for our customers and in the ways that they need us to be. So to the extent that there are more deposit customers that have some rate sensitivity, we will respond to that with them. And to the extent that we can gather more non-interest-bearing deposits, obviously we'd like that as well.
spk07: And Dave, this is Bob. Maybe just to add to Jamie's comments, which are spot on, is just remember from the call last quarter, last quarter's call, that this year we have about $1.5 billion of fixed-rate loans rolling over and $600 million of securities. So that's what's really helping drive that NIM expansion throughout the year. You can't exactly predict what's going to happen with deposits, to Jamie's point, but that we do know, that those will reset and the securities will mature.
spk05: And that kind of feeds right into my next question. That's a really good point. You know, and you guys are, look, you're naturally rate sensitive just given the strength of your deposit base, right? And you've been active managing the balance sheet with the securities book and all that. I'm curious, how do you think about managing the balance sheet today, right? You know, the rate outlook continues to change pretty rapidly. You know, one second everybody's worried about rate cuts and now we're talking about a hire for longer environment. But I'm just curious, How do you think about managing the balance sheet at this point, just kind of given that uncertainty on the rate front, and anything that you guys are considering at this point?
spk03: You know, it's a great question, Dave. You know, I think the way that I'm kind of thinking about it right now is that we have this securities portfolio. It's yielding 230 or, you know, somewhere in that neighborhood. On the margins, we're funding that with 5% higher cost deposits. At the moment, we're kind of biding our time, I would say. We're kind of just managing through that natural grind. We feel really good about the cash flows off that portfolio. They were structured in such a way so that it wouldn't extend or contract too much given a different rate environment. What we're really focused on is helping our customers, being there for our customers to the extent that there's loan growth opportunities with our customers. We want to be there for that. And in the meantime, we're really thinking about the overall balance sheet kind of on the margins in the securities portfolio. That's going to continue to run off. And we will fill in the gaps where we need on the funding side. with public time deposits if that's required. We're not really thinking about hedging anything at this point. We feel pretty good about where we're at. Even in a down rate scenario, say 100 basis points down, 200 basis points down, that's still a net positive action with replacing securities portfolio and running off the time deposit. So, you know, we also have an FHLB borrowing that is going to mature in the third quarter. So, you know, there's a lot of sort of moving parts there. But at the moment, I think we're comfortable with the balance sheet. We like the way we're doing it, as you say. rate outlooks change, you know, intraday even today, right? So, you know, we're really trying to just be focused on our customers and just grinding through this sort of odd mix at the moment with the securities portfolio and the marginal higher cost of funds.
spk05: That's extremely helpful. Could you remind us the size of that upcoming maturity and the rate on it?
spk03: Oh, the FHLB, it's $500 million. It's going to mature in September 1st, and I think it's at a $490 rate.
spk05: Perfect. And then just last one for me. Look, you guys touched on credit broadly, and you feel like you're well-covered, talked about some downgrades that you saw in the book. I mean, not accrual is held steady, and it's benign. talked about some downgrades. I was curious what drove those and maybe just your thoughts more broadly on credit, what you're seeing, what you're watching closely, and just any thoughts even on CRE, just kind of given the market type or focus on that segment.
spk07: Davis, Bob, I'll start maybe and hand it over to Lee. It's a really interesting quarter other than a handful of downgrades that she can speak to better, you know, really across the board. We stayed the same or got better on every other metric. for delinquencies, for NPAs, et cetera. So we aren't seeing any signs. That's something we pride ourselves on is being very thoughtful about, you know, supporting borrowers and making sure that they can, you know, they have the ability to pay us back. But it's not unusual for this part of the cycle to see a little bit of weakness in a handful of names. So with that, maybe I'll hand it over to Tilly.
spk10: I don't really have much to add other than, you know, our metrics Our delinquency metrics are starting at a very low base, so it doesn't take much for it to pop. And we're staying close to the borrowers that we think are a little bit under duress. And we talk to them constantly. We understand what the projects are. We're actually quite comfortable even with that loan that we mentioned that we paid off. We're very comfortable with the loan. There are circumstances that require us to categorize it a certain way, but I think fundamentally the portfolio is actually quite strong.
spk05: Okay. Terrific. Thanks, everybody, for all the color.
spk01: And one moment for our next question. And our next question will be coming from Stephen Alexopoulos of J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
spk06: Hi everybody. Hi Steve. I want to start, so Jamie, you just indicated on the noninterest bearing. I thought you said that trends moderated in March. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. Do you mean that you saw, you still saw outflows in March, but not to the degree of January, February? And I say that because the period end noninterest bearing deposit balances were, I think it was 200 million or so below the average. So your period end was down fairly materially.
spk03: Yeah, that's right. So, I mean, I think the right way to think about it is most of that outflow happened in January and February. And then in March, it was pretty much flat.
spk06: Oh, it was flattish in March. Okay.
spk03: Yeah.
spk06: Got it. And you're assuming flattish. Is that what you're assuming for the rest of the year?
spk03: No, actually, that that one to two basis point guide would would assume that, say, you know, we were 500 million down, say, in the in the first quarter, that that that sort of moderates down to flat by the end of the year. Oh, got it.
spk06: Okay. What about the public time? What's your thinking on that for the rest of the year? Because those continue to come down to
spk03: Yeah, that's, I mean, we think that we're going to be able to bring that down in line with the size of the balance sheet. You know, hopefully we have, you know, hopefully that non-interest bearing moderation that we're talking about, hopefully that slows down even more, which would allow us to pay even, you know, pay down more of those public time deposits. So, you know, at the moment, we think that's going to come down. Then there's going to be need for a little bit of funding in September with the FHLB borrowings. And so we'll kind of, you know, we'll manage that on, you know, sort of like what's best for us in terms of financials, right, around the rate on those things. So it's possible that the public time increases in Q3 with the pay down of the FHLBs, or it's possible maybe we'll find some other borrowing source that maybe makes a little more sense economically for us. at that time. So, you know, the public time really is going to be a function of the extent of the loan growth that we have, you know, and the other deposits, either growth or declines that we have. Okay.
spk06: That's helpful. Actually, I was going to ask on the loan growth. You know, quite a few banks were fairly optimistic with the pipeline. They didn't have a lot of growth this quarter, but they were more optimistic. What are you guys seeing on the pipeline? I'm talking more commercial CNI pipeline.
spk07: Sure. see this, Bob. So we expect, you know, flooring came down a little bit this quarter. Not unusual to have it kind of pop up at year end and come down in Q1. So we think that'll have some strength to it. You're seeing production levels at much higher levels through most manufacturers. Some of the foreign brands, in particular Toyota, has been challenged, although I'm sure they'll be catching up by year end. So that's one area. We are seeing still some deal flow from the commercial real estate side, and in particular, deals that we put on a year ago that, of course, on the construction side, the equity money goes in first, and then you start with the draws. And so we saw that strength in this quarter, and we think that will continue to be some strength. And we're seeing slightly better pricing in the indirect world as well. And so we think the decline in that portfolio will start to moderate. and we'll see where that goes. If it makes sense, we want to do that business, and it's good business. We know it extremely well. Just the economics for a while just didn't make sense for us. So I think really those areas. One area that we're not forecasting any real recovery in is residential. We hope it gets better, but that's just a hope. That's not a forecast. So we're going to just watch that and be there for our customers as needed, but hard to see a lot of uptick in residential in the back half of this year.
spk06: Got it. Okay. And Bob, if I can ask one other one, just on capital, you continue to accrete capital pretty nicely here. What are you thinking of from a share buyback perspective, right? Because your credit quality overall is pristine and you're not using capital to grow the balance sheet. So it seems like you're just going to continue to accrete capital. How do you think about returning some of that to shareholders?
spk07: And a great question, and we have the authorization to do that. I think the only thing we're looking at now, one, as we talked about previously, we wanted to kind of get through that uncertainty period of what happened a year ago with SVB and just a lot of questions out there in the market. So I feel that we're past that. So that's the good news. It's the most important thing. Our ratios across the board, not just common equity tier one, but all the other ratios have improved to a point where that's off the table in, I think, most people's minds. And then the second one is there is a remixing, and this is what we're watching as we remix the balance sheet out of securities and into loans, obviously a much higher capital weight going up from 20% to 100%. So it really is looking at that. And then if not this quarter, certainly the back half of the year, we'll be looking closely at that and decide when and if a share repurchase, you know, actually putting Starting to do some share repurchase makes sense. But that was more likely in the back half of the year.
spk06: Got it. Some more to come. Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. You're welcome.
spk01: And one moment for our next question. And our next question will be coming from Timmer Braziller of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk09: Hi. Good morning.
spk08: Maybe circling back on just balance sheet size, so I get your commentary on continued paydowns of the public funds, and then I guess with the FHLB borrowing that's coming due in September, is the expectation there or the willingness there to pay that off or roll that into new borrowings? And I guess just more broadly, is there an outcome? where the balance sheet grow kind of in the next couple of quarters, or do you really need to see some pickup on the lending activity before we should start to see the balance sheet actually expand?
spk03: Yeah, hey, Teamers, Jamie. I mean, I think the last comment you made is probably the right one there, right, which is, you know, the size of the balance sheet is really going to be mostly dependent upon what we do on the lending side. I feel pretty comfortable for the time being about the securities portfolio and the runoff associated with that. So, yeah, I think the size of the balance sheet will be sort of dictated on the lending side because that cash flow is pretty certain on the security side. The other parts of your question, FHLB borrowings. So, yeah, so that there's a chance that we roll that over if needed in September. There's also, you know, other opportunities in either the public CD market or even, you know, in our retail CD market. So, you know, at that point it's going to be kind of dependent upon the economics of what we see. You know, potentially there are potential reasons to either roll that over or to do public time deposits at that time. So, you know, we'll think through that for sure.
spk08: Okay, thanks. And then circling back on credit, it looks like a large portion of the increase in the criticized loans in the multifamily construction, you know, and you have a footnote in here saying that it's centered around rental and per sale housing. I guess just maybe more broadly saying, What occurred in that portfolio and to what extent is the tourism kind of driving that result? Any kind of additional color you could provide there would be helpful.
spk07: This is Bob. That loan in particular, and you'll see it on page 16, is multifamily construction. It was a mainland deal. It's a very strong sponsor. they stepped up to the plate and paid it off. And so that criticized portion there is zero as of today, just to give you an idea. So more broadly in the portfolio, as we've looked at for deals we do on the mainland, we look first to the sponsor as well as the agent bank and make sure those two are people we want to work with. And not every deal works out exactly as you planned, and you just need to work through some of them. And that's what we did in this case. So more broadly, we're still very comfortable with the strategy. We're still very careful on which markets we go into, which sponsors we work with, and which agent banks we want to partner with on that. Does that answer your question?
spk08: That does, yes. And then maybe just a follow-up there. Can you give us the geography that loan was in and then maybe just some broader commentary about what you're seeing in the mainland portfolio? Yeah.
spk07: Yeah, that was in the California market. And, you know, again, those are the gateway cities we've been talking about for some time ever since we started the strategy. And that's why it was able to get refinanced and we got paid off just because of the strength of the project. And even, you know, there's some weakness in some of those markets, but you have to be very specific about even within, you know, some of those gateway cities exactly where you're doing the deal and where the deal is being done and Even the submarkets are all very important, and building that expertise and being able to execute on that really would drive a lot of the credit quality as well.
spk09: Great. Thanks for the questions.
spk01: And one moment for our next question. And our next question will be coming from Jared Shaw of Barclays. Jared, your line is open.
spk06: Hey, good morning. Thanks. Maybe just first on Maui, what's the remaining expected insurance benefit or payment from outstanding claims, or is that all tied up with what we saw this quarter?
spk03: So, yeah, just to be very clear about what that insurance benefit was, that was insurance on our building, on our branch that burned down. And so that was that insurance claim for this quarter from us. And then on the deposit side, that was claims money that came into the bank that got paid out in the quarter to recipients. So just want to clarify those two comments. And if that didn't address your question, then maybe if you could ask it again that we can, you know, that either Lee or Bob can handle.
spk06: Yeah, I think that's it. So that $2 million that you called out for the branch, there's really no other FHB claims outstanding then, is the way to think of it.
spk10: There will be once we start the actual rebuild on the branch.
spk07: Okay. That'll be farther out. So, but that's... kind of the initial, and then as time goes by, it's hard to determine when that will happen or specifically the amount at this point in time.
spk06: Okay. All right. Thanks. And then my follow-up, there's a competitor bank that's been in the news lately with a parent that's struggling a little bit. Do you have any thoughts on how that could impact the market and Is that an opportunity for you to either take market share or protect market share? And would you envision a situation where potentially a new competitor would come on to the islands and be in the market? Or do you think that at this position they would likely involve Hawaii banks?
spk07: Yeah, Jared, we prefer not to speculate on that. And, you know, that's very much kind of just wait and see how that plays out. So I don't have any comment on that one.
spk00: Okay. All right. Thanks.
spk01: And one moment for our next question. Our next question will be coming from Andrew Leach of Piper Sandler. Andrew, your line's open.
spk09: Thanks, everyone. Just one quick question for me. You've covered everything else. Do you have the balance of shared national credits and how is the credit quality performing in those right now?
spk10: So we do have the balance of shared national credits. So we actually, sorry, we actually divide the portfolio up into credit only versus non-credit only. The outstanding balance on the credit-only SNCCs at the end of the quarter was $324 million. And how is the credit quality standing up? There's been some weakness, admittedly, but we do have expectations for resolutions on those. None of them are on non-accrual or anything. They're just incorporated into our table on slide 15.
spk09: Did that answer your question? Yeah, absolutely. Really helpful. And thanks for you covered everything else. I'll step back. Great.
spk07: Yeah, just a little broader context maybe because obviously the portfolio is much larger and we kind of we have different cuts on it. The first cut is Hawaii-based shared national credits versus mainland-based shared national credits. And then within the mainland-based shared national credits is the ones that really have a presence here in Hawaii that you know, we have a broader relationship with. And there are some that, you know, deploy some of our excess capital liquidity. We're, you know, credit only, as we call it. And that's what Lee was referring to.
spk08: Got it. Thank you.
spk01: And one moment for our next question. And our next question will be coming from Kelly Mata of KBW. Your line is open.
spk02: hi thanks so much for the question i apologize i uh dropped off the call um so i apologize that this has been asked um already but um in the quarter there was there was quite a nice uptick in loan yields um i'm wondering your release did call out a three basis point impact um you could sort of one one-time benefit and in margin just wondering um If there is any of that in the loan yields, if maybe there is non-recrual recoveries or anything that would be helpful to consider when modeling the margin as we look ahead.
spk03: Yeah. Thanks, Kelly. It's Jamie. That was that three basis points that was on the loan side of things. In particular, it was in the residential mortgage bucket. And it was related to kind of like timing differences, I would say, in deferral take-ups related to Maui. And so we kind of had some catch-up interest that happened in Q1. That was about $1.5 million. So that was like a non-recurring piece of that in Q1.
spk02: Got it. That's helpful. I'll step back. Thank you so much.
spk03: Yep.
spk01: And I would now like to turn the conference back to Kevin Haseyama for closing remarks.
spk04: Thank you, Tonya. We appreciate your interest in First Hawaiian. Please feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions. Thanks again for joining us and have a good weekend.
spk01: And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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