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spk01: Hello and welcome to the Financial Institutions Inc. First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. My name is Katie and I'll be coordinating your call today. If you would like to ask a question during the presentation, you may do so by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. I'll now hand over to your host, Shelley Doran, the Director of Investor Relations, to begin. Shelley, please go ahead.
spk07: Thank you for joining us for today's call. Providing prepared comments will be President and CEO Marty Birmingham and CFO Jack Plant. Chief Community Banking Officer Justin Biggin and Director of Financial Planning and Analysis Mike Grover will join us for Q&A. Today's prepared comments and Q&A will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from forward-looking statements due to a variety of risks and certain teeth and other factors. We refer you to yesterday's earnings release and historical SEC filings available on our Best Relations website for a safe harbor description and a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to forward-looking statements. We'll also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures intended to supplement and not substitute for comparable GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these measures to GAAP financial measures were provided in the earnings release filed as an Exhibit 108K. Please note that this call includes information that may only be accurate as of today's date, April 28th, 2022. I'll now turn the call over to President and CEO Marty Birmingham.
spk06: Thank you, Shelly. Good morning and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. Our positive momentum from 2021 continued and we delivered another quarter of very solid results with net income of 15 million or 93 cents per diluted share. These results were lower than the length in prior year quarters, primarily as a result of a more normalized operating environment and some of the unique impacts of the pandemic environment moderated. We recorded a more typical level of provision for credit losses after four straight quarters of benefit and recognized lower revenues related to the Triple P program. Pre-tax, pre-provision income was $20.7 million. a $1.9 million decrease from the fourth quarter of 2021 and a $3.3 million decrease from the first quarter of 2021. The declines were largely the result of lower PPP revenues totaling $1.1 million this quarter, down from $2.8 million and $3.6 million in the fourth and first quarters of last year, respectively. In the first quarter of 2022, we announced our first commercial expansion outside of our operating footprint. John Megan was named Senior Vice President, Commercial Real Estate Executive, and Mid-Atlantic President. And he leads three commercial real estate relationship managers in the Baltimore and Washington, D.C. region for Five Star Bank. Consolidation within the Baltimore and D.C. financial services sector created an opening for us to capitalize on opportunities where a community banking approach provides a competitive advantage. Our Mid-Atlantic team of four commercial banking officers started with Five Star in mid-February, and they have been working diligently to build a strong loan pipeline. We look forward to establishing the Five Star brand in this new market and becoming a strong partner for the communities there. Our strong track record of credit discipline loan growth and well-defined strategic and risk frameworks give us confidence and the expected positive outcomes of this exciting expansion beyond our operating footprint. We continue to leverage available talent to expand our commercial platform through the recruitment of commercial professionals and are also considering the establishment of other loan production offices in viable markets outside of our existing footprint. During the first quarter, total loans grew $54 million, or 1.5% from December 31st. Commercial business decreased 2%, commercial mortgage increased 2%, residential real estate loans were relatively flat, and consumer indirect was up 5%. Excluding the impact of PPP loans, the commercial business portfolio grew 2%, and total loans were up 2.2%. PPP loan forgiveness continued in the quarter and outstanding decreased from $55 million at year end to $31 million at March 31st. We are seeing an increase in commercial credit line utilization, driven by opportunistic buying of inventory by customers to deal with supply chain constraints. Our commercial real estate pipeline remains robust. We work with known quality sponsors, and they are presenting high-quality, viable projects. While developers are facing cost increases for materials and extended delivery dates, They continue to demonstrate the ability to manage these incremental expenses while maintaining acceptable underlying cash flow projects. In residential real estate, first mortgage volumes are down, but we are seeing an uptick in the home equity category. We are also experiencing compressed spreads in the secondary market gain on sale, putting pressure on revenue. We continue to invest in both the back office and frontline sales force of this key line of business, focusing on operational efficiencies. Growth in our consumer indirect auto portfolio continued in the quarter as we benefited from high auto valuation, good access to quality credit through our dealer network of more than 500 franchise new auto dealerships, and strong credit discipline. This asset class provides the opportunity to deploy excess liquidity in a loan category with short duration, strong credit performance, and comparatively higher yield characteristics in the current environment. The indirect auto line of business remains a core competency for us, and we have a demonstrated track record of consistent performance through economic expansions, recessions, and stagnation. The allowance for credit losses on loans to total loans was 110 basis points at quarter end, up two basis points from December 31st due primarily to an increase in qualitative factors, reflecting economic uncertainty associated with higher interest rates and global political unrest. The increase in qualitative factors was partially offset by continued low levels of net charge-offs at 787,000, or nine basis points this quarter, favorable national unemployment, and a reduction in our overall specific reserve levels. Overall portfolio credit performance continues to demonstrate stability with a low level of non-performing assets at $9.6 million. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Jack for additional details on results and an update on 2022 guidance. Jack?
spk05: Thank you, Marty, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin by providing commentary on performance in key areas with comparison to the fourth quarter of 2021. Now, interest income was $39.6 million, $1.3 million lower than the linked quarter primarily as a result of lower revenue in connection with Triple P loans. Approximately $25 million and $64 million of Triple P loans were forgiven in the first quarter of 2022 and fourth quarter of 2021, respectively, with a related fee accretion of $970,000 in the first quarter as compared to $2.6 million in the linked quarter. Approximately $1 million of the 2020 vintage loans and $31 million of the 2021 vintage loans remain on the balance sheet at quarter end. NIM on a fully taxable equivalent, or FTE, basis for the first quarter of 2022 was 311 basis points, down 4 basis points from the linked quarter, and down 18 basis points from the first quarter of 2021. Both PPP and excess liquidity continue to impact NIM, Given the lower level of remaining Triple P loans outstanding and associated forgiveness, there was a $1.7 million reduction in Triple P interest and fees on a late quarter basis, resulting in an 11 basis point reduction in NIM. Partly offsetting the Triple P impact was a significant reduction in short-term interest earning deposits of $104 million, which resulted in approximately six basis points of NIM expansion in the current quarter. We continue to experience a stable level of cash flow on our investment securities portfolio, which is primarily comprised of mortgage-backed securities with low to moderate duration. These securities provide ongoing cash flow that has generated incremental yield over Federal Reserve balances. Cash flow from the portfolio allows for reinvestment into loans or additional investment securities if rates have increased. Our cost of funds was flat at 22 basis points in the current quarter as compared to the linked quarter. Non-interest income of $11.3 million was $352,000 lower than the fourth quarter. Revenue categories of the largest changes quarter over quarter were as follows. Insurance income was $754,000 higher, primarily as a result of the timing and level of contingent revenue received in the first quarter each year. combined with growth in the commercial lines business. And income from limited partnerships was up 501,000 based on the activity and performance of underlying investments. We experienced a net loss on the sale of residential mortgage loans of $91,000 compared to a net gain of 482,000 in the previous quarter. Sales volumes and margins have moderated substantially in 2022 and we incurred a loss in the first quarter due to the current fair market value of pipeline commitments. These losses will be recovered when the loans are sold. Income from derivative instruments was down $516,000 based on the number and value of transactions and the impact of changes in fair market value. Non-interest expense was $238,000 higher than the linked quarter, primarily as a result of higher salaries and employee benefits driven by investments in personnel, annual merit increases, promotions, and the impact of higher payroll taxes incurred in the first quarter each year. Income tax expense was $3.4 million in the quarter, representing an effective tax rate of 18.7%, compared to $4.2 million and an effective tax rate of 17.7% in the fourth quarter of 2021. Accumulated other comprehensive income decreased by $54 million in the quarter, driven by an increase in the unrealized loss position of our available for sale securities portfolio. Intermediate maturities of the treasury curve negatively impacted the market valuation of our investment portfolio due to its five-year duration. We do not consider any component of this portfolio to be impaired because it is primarily comprised of agency-wrapped mortgage-backed securities that are implicitly and explicitly guaranteed by the U.S. government. The unrealized loss position does not impact our forward earnings metrics as we expect these securities to mature at a terminal value equivalent to par. As these securities roll down the curve, we continue to redeploy cash flow into the loan portfolio or current coupon bonds. The decline in AOCI negatively impacted our TCE ratio by 97 basis points and tangible common book value per share by $3.52. The accounting driving this impact is short-term, given the high quality of our investment portfolio. Over time, we expect our TCE ratio and tangible common book value per share to return to prior levels. We provided slides in our investor presentation available on the Investor Relations website, that show the various components of the quarterly change in both of these measures. I'll now take a few minutes to provide our current outlook for 2022 in key areas. We continue to expect mid to high single-digit growth in our total loan portfolio, with commercial and indirect loan categories driving this growth. Guidance assumes the forgiveness or repayment of the majority of the remaining $31 million of PPP loans during the next two quarters. We continue to plan for low single-digit growth in nonpublic deposits. We are focused on attracting new consumer and commercial deposit accounts and expect the positive impact of these new accounts to be partially offset by an expected decline in the average balance per account. Reciprocal and public deposits are projected to be relatively flat, consistent with our experience in the first quarter. We are increasing the top end of our guidance range for full year NIM by seven basis points. The range is now 305 to 317 basis points, excluding the impact of Triple P activity. There will continue to be noise in our NIM relative to Triple B forgiveness, although muted relative to 2021, so we continue to guide on NIM excluding Triple P. NIM guidance reflects the increase in the Fed funds rate that occurred mid-March. As a reminder, we are guiding NIM using a spot rate forecast, which was recalibrated with the spot rates as of 3-31. We do expect further interest rate increases. However, the number and magnitude are difficult to predict. We continue to expect a higher investment securities portfolio due to carryover from our 2021 excess liquidity position, which will put pressure on NIM in the first half of 2022 as we deploy liquidity from the investment portfolio into loans. Guidance also reflects our historical experience for deposit betas that range from zero to 30% for non-maturity deposits. As a reminder, our NIM fluctuates from quarter to quarter due to the seasonality of public deposits and its impact on both our earning asset and funding mix. In quarters where our average public deposit balances are higher due to seasonal inflows, the second and fourth quarters, our earning asset yields are lower given the short-term duration of the deposits and limited opportunities to invest the funds. Our balance sheet remains relatively neutral. We saw a modest level of NIM compression in the first quarter, as expected, with the lower level of PPP revenue, and expect NIM to expand throughout the remainder of the year if the current rate environment persists. Approximately 35% of our loan portfolio, excluding PPP, is indexed to variable interest rates. We maintain our projection of low single-digit growth in non-interest income, excluding gains on investment securities and non-interest income categories that are difficult to predict, such as limited partnership income. We also expect continued pressure on mortgage-making revenue as a result of lower anticipated refinance activity and tightening of gain on sale spreads due to the interest rate environment. We continue to expect an increase in the mid-single-digit range for non-interest expense which is expected to range from $31 to $32 million per quarter. Q1 expense is lower than guidance due to the timing of certain projects and initiatives that were deferred to the second quarter. Our spend in 2022 includes investments in strategic initiatives, including further enhancements to our new customer relationship management solution, digital banking, and banking as a service. We expect these investments to begin producing incremental revenue in 2022 However, full benefits are likely to be realized over the coming years. Our expectations for efficiency ratio remain the same, within a range of 59 to 60% for the year. 2022 efficiency ratio is impacted by upfront costs associated with our aforementioned investments and strategic initiatives that we expect to recoup in later periods, driving our expectation for improvement in future efficiency ratio. We continue to anticipate that the 2022 effective tax rate will fall within a range of 19 to 20%, most likely towards the low end of the range given first quarter results. Guidance includes the impact of the amortization of tax credit investments placed in service in recent years. We continue to evaluate tax credit opportunities and our effective tax rate would be positively impacted by taking advantage of further investment opportunities. We expect net charge-offs to remain within our annual historical range of approximately 35 to 40 basis points, although first quarter net charge-off activity remained benign, similar to our experience in 2021. Our overall focus includes executing on strategic initiatives that will improve profitability and operating leverage over time. We believe that achieving results in line with the guidance provided will drive these outcomes. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back to Marty.
spk06: Thank you, Jack. We completed our stock repurchase program in the first quarter of 2022. During 2021 and 2022, we repurchased about 802,000 shares, or 5% of shares outstanding, and an average price of $29.63 per share. Our buyback strategy allowed us to efficiently deploy capital in a scenario with a short-term earn-back period of less than two years. We remain focused on efficient and optimal capital allocation and deployment. In February, our board increased the common stock dividend by 7.4% to $0.29 per share per quarter, or $1.16 per share annualized. This was the company's 12th consecutive annual dividend increase, demonstrating our ongoing commitment to shareholder return. As I commented in the earnings press release, we continue to make thoughtful investments in people, process, and technology to advance our digital strategy. Our digital strategy delivers meaningful and differentiated experiences for our customers, drives operational efficiencies, and creates new revenue opportunities through banking as a service. We are making investments and building partnerships that identify and take advantage of opportunities to set us apart and drive growth. We are adding offerings to our pipeline for bank customers and potential BAS clients. During the fourth quarter call, I talked about these efforts and a few initiatives underway, and I'd like to provide a brief update today. We are making pushes into digital payments, both consumer and commercial, along with becoming one of the first banks to offer crypto access to retail customers beyond the very wealthy, among others. Chuck, our peer-to-peer payments network, allows customers to send money from their five-star bank account and enables the recipient to choose where they want the money to go we remain on track for launch in early summer 2022. beyond chuck we went live with autobooks in february of 2022 which streamlines accounts receivables and payables for small businesses and is integrated into five star bank's digital banking platform additionally we are exploring adding digital payment tools for commercial customers that strengthens our treasury management capabilities. We are nearing go-live for offering Bitcoin to consumers in partnership with NYDIG. We've completed our internal beta testing and are awaiting regulatory feedback before enabling this exciting offering for our customers. Our deep banking expertise coupled with legacy and ongoing investments in technology, partnerships, and talent has created our BaaS operating system which will enable our FinTech partners and non-bank financial firms looking to offer banking products and services to their customers. These BAS partnerships provide the opportunity for additional fee revenue, interest income, and insight into consumer trends. We're collaborating with partners on several exciting opportunities that will drive our BAS line of business, and we'll announce them as they come to fruition. We filed our proxy statement yesterday afternoon, Both the proxy and annual report are now available on our investor relations website and our annual meeting website, proxydocs.com forward slash F-I-S-I. In conclusion, it was another good quarter on many fronts for our company, and I thank my associates for their ongoing dedication and contribution. Operator, this concludes my prepared comments. We're ready to open the line for questions.
spk01: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you'd like to remove your question, please press star followed by two. And when preparing to ask your question, please ensure your phone is unmuted locally. We take our first question from Bryce Rowe from Hove Group. Please go ahead, Bryce.
spk04: Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to maybe start on the expansion in the D.C. area with the commercial lending team there. Marty, maybe you can speak to kind of the opportunity, how you sized it up from a balance sheet perspective, what the timing might look like there, and then how you feel about other opportunities that might be in the pipeline.
spk06: Thanks for the question, Bryce, and your participation this morning. We are very enthused about the opportunity to work with this team in the Baltimore-Washington market. Effectively, a complete team lift out coming out of the Howard Bank acquisition by F&B Corp. And, you know, I've spent time joint calling with this group. They're seasoned. They're professional. Our chief commercial lending officer, New John, their leader, having worked together, you know, over the course of their careers over the past 30 years. So we were introduced to them by one of our senior executives, and they're now introducing us to a market that's broadened our horizons significantly, the seat of our federal government. And there's a big need, as we talked about in our prepared comments, for community banking involvement in terms of working with this segment of the market. So as we speak today, Their pipeline is ramping up. It's approximately $100 million. They've already closed one loan associated with investment grade sponsor, tenant, if you will, constructing a new headquarters in Baltimore. And I'm aware of a couple of mandates that we've received where it reflects the opportunity of working with deeply experienced, deeply tenured owners and developers where low loan to values and stable property. So we're very bullish on it. I think as we speak about LPOs and further opportunities, there's some logical ones right down the thruway. We're already operating on the fringes of Syracuse and in that market, and we'll continue to think about how to formalize an organized commercial effort there as well. So we're open to these opportunities. Given the technology, that exists today, the mandate to have a contiguous footprint to help drive the non-credit services is not as important as it once was. So we're going to do it thoughtfully as we have here, and we're open to those possibilities.
spk04: And maybe some clarity around the expense guide, does it include I assume it includes this team here.
spk05: Good morning, Bryce. This is Jack, and thanks for the question. Yeah, that's correct. Both the loan growth guidance of the mid to high single-digit level and the expense guidance are inclusive of the LPO expansion to that market. Okay.
spk04: That's helpful, Jack. And then maybe one more for me. You know, you guys called out some of the qualitative factors going into the allowance and some of the puts and takes relative to the drivers of the allowance. Can you speak to those? Are you having to, you know, quote, unquote, get creative in terms of, you know, finding ways to maintain the allowance at this level and, you know, and how the qualitative factors kind of work into the allowance methodology? Thanks.
spk05: One of the areas from a qualitative standpoint that impacted our allowance model this year was some of the growth in the indirect portfolio. You know, that's an asset class that we're extremely comfortable with, but just given the continued expansion of that portfolio, it did drive up some of the qualitative factors. We also re-anchored our qualitative factors this quarter, which impacted the model to a certain extent. But in our current coverage ratio, we're comfortable with that coverage ratio today. And certainly, as you could imagine, uncertainty related to the economic outlook and global political unrest make the coverage ratio difficult to forecast. If we look forward, though, we do expect a more normalized level of provisioning in 2022 to cover NCOs as guided, as well as overall loan growth.
spk04: Okay, I'll jump back into you. Thanks a lot, guys. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question comes from Marla Backer from ZDOTI. Please go ahead, Marla.
spk08: Thank you. So, I want to dig a little deeper into your answer to the prior one of questions in terms of the loan growth guidance. Are the conversations that you're having today or that your loan officers are having today suggesting that there's a little bit of waiting on the sidelines until we see some stability in interest rates or until we see what the increase in interest rates might be? Or are you
spk06: encouraged by the tone of these conversations that we could see loan growth uh accelerate a little bit in the near term you know rather than the second half of the year so you know kind of starting from a macro level you know credit discipline loan growth has been a strategic focus of our company for um a long time and we've been taking advantage of organic growth opportunities you know in our existing footprint where you know, we're filling a very important gap relative to how a community bank operates and delivers credit services. So, Marla, we, for over that sustained period of time, have been delivering, you know, high single-digit, ultimately, loan growth for the balance sheet. And in the commercial segment, we continue to take advantage of numerous, an array of opportunities in both our in commercial small business, commercial CNI, and commercial real estate. So our pipelines remain consistent and I would say steady and ultimately sustained. We're going to benefit from the incremental LPO office that we established in the first quarter, but we feel good about the outlook for our ability to continue to drive organic loan growth.
spk08: Okay. Thank you for that. And then switching gears a little bit, you know, you did comment on how the, you know, technology access makes contiguous operating footprint a little bit less of a mandate today than it was, you know, perhaps a couple of years ago. And so, you know, your entrance into the Baltimore DC markets Does this in any way impact your strategy vis-a-vis Buffalo and Rochester, or is that strategy still in place as it was?
spk06: So that strategy is still in place. I think that we remain, you know, very eyes wide open relative to the impact of digital adoption in the world, certainly in our industry, with our customers, with our prospects in terms of balancing our ability to deliver the bank in a very confident and personal and accessible manner for our customers, while at the same time ensuring that they're empowered to access us through technology and digital solutions that meet their needs. So we'll constantly think about the balance between our commitment to a physical footprint as well as of supplementing and complementing that through our digital solutions that empower our customers, consumer and commercial.
spk08: Okay, and then last question, which is more of a housekeeping one, and it comes out of this, you know, conversation that we're having now. Do you foresee any additional branch closures in 2022?
spk05: Marla, this is Jack. At this stage of the game, we don't have any branch closures in our strategic outlook.
spk08: Okay, thanks very much.
spk01: Our next question comes from Alex from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
spk06: Hey, good morning. Hey, Alex.
spk02: Morning, Alex. I just want to start with the NIM guidance you gave Jack. Can you just, would you mind going through it just one more time? I think you said 305 to 317. What's the starting point NIM that you're kind of using as kind of the starting point for that NIM guide?
spk05: So, when we looked at our results for this quarter, we came in at a 311 basis points, and then when you back out the impact at a triple P, we were at 305. And we took the first quarter results and rolled forward using the spot rate as of March 31st to update that guidance, which resulted in an increase on the longer end of seven basis points from where we originally guided.
spk02: Okay. And can you just remind us, do you have any sort of guidance? I think the forward curve has now got something like eight hikes for this year. You know, can you give us a little bit of guide on kind of what the expectations per hike is, you know, given the 35% of loans that are indexed to variable and maybe go through some of the other cash flows that you're expecting over the next 12 months?
spk05: Yeah, from a cash flow standpoint, we saw a pretty healthy amount of cash flow come off the securities portfolio in the first quarter. And over the next 12 months, we're modeling another $200 million to come off of the securities portfolio itself. We didn't model on a per hike basis per se, but when you layer in the forward curve based upon the Fed guidance, I think that we could see another potential for five to seven basis points of expansion, assuming that we're able to maintain our deposit betas. And I had mentioned that our non-maturity deposit betas were modeled at zero to 30 percent. We also look at our CDARS and ICS portfolio, which is our reciprocal deposit base, which has a higher deposit beta. That ranges from about 55 to 65 percent as well. That's based upon our experience during the last rate hike in the 2018 period. It may be a little bit different this go-around, but I think we're being fair in using that historical experience in our modeling.
spk02: Okay. The cash flows on the securities that you alluded to, the $200 million plus whatever came this quarter, are those coming off? higher than what new securities are going on at, or are they kind of around the book yield?
spk05: The cash flow that's coming off is right around the book yield.
spk02: Okay. And then can you maybe talk a little bit about new loan yields that you're seeing in your market for commercial paper? I've kind of gotten some answers that are all over the board from some of your competitors.
spk05: Yeah, this is Jack. I mean, from a competitive standpoint, As you can imagine, the market is highly competitive right now as most banks continue to have excess liquidity on their balance sheet that they're looking to deploy into this higher industry environment. From a yield standpoint, I'll talk about credit spreads a little bit. We have seen a slight amount of tightening in credit spreads, but not to an extent that makes me nervous. And it's generally in line with our experience over the past 12 months.
spk02: So what does that translate to if you're putting on a new commercial real estate loan today? What kind of yield roughly would that translate to?
spk05: I'll talk about the credit spreads again. I think that generally, if you look at where our loans were pricing in the past 12 months and then add in the shift in the federal home loan bank curve, that would approximately equate to the new loan yield that we're seeing in the market.
spk02: Okay. And what are those credit spreads? Can you give me, just trying to make it all tie together with the NIM guide?
spk05: I'm not going to pinpoint them exactly, but they're above 200 basis points.
spk02: Okay. And then just shifting back to the commentary on the lenders in DC, are you going to need a branch down there?
spk06: No, we're not.
spk05: The application that we filed is for a limited production office, which essentially allows for us to generate commercial loans and accept commercial deposits in that space digitally.
spk02: Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.
spk06: Thanks, Jeff.
spk01: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. We take our next question from Damon Del Monte from KBW. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hi, this is Matt Rank filling in for Damon Del Monte. I hope everybody's doing well today. I appreciate the update on the digital initiatives. My first question is, do you still expect the Bitcoin wallets to launch by the end of the second quarter, or do you think the regulatory review could delay that?
spk06: We do think we're shooting for end of the second quarter, early summer. We want to, you know, as we said, we completed our beta testing, friends and family. We're certainly ready, but we want to make sure that we're very collaborative with our regulators and understand what their expectations are, and so we move up to them.
spk03: okay and will that be uh expanded to additional cryptocurrencies and if that expansion happens does that require a whole another regulatory review or that be quicker additions yeah at this point we're just focused on uh the partnership we have with nine of nydig okay got it thank you and then um my last question just uh regarding share repurchases and you know you said you went through the plan um Do you have any updated outlook going forward for the rest of the year?
spk05: This is Jack, and thanks for the question. We continue to identify opportunities to efficiently deploy capital and potential to build dry powder, so to speak. So that's an arrow that's in our quiver and something that we can consider as we continue to provide outlook for future periods. OK, great, thank you.
spk03: Thanks so much.
spk01: So as a final reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. We currently have no further questions, so I'll hand it back to our speaker team for any final remarks.
spk06: Katie, thanks for your support. So in this important discussion, we look forward to continuing the dialogue with our second quarter results in July.
spk01: Thank you all for joining. This now concludes the call. Please disconnect your lines.
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