Flywire Corporation

Greetings and welcome to the Flywire Corporation first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Masa Khan, Vice President Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Thank you and good afternoon. With us on today's call, I'm Mike Massara, Chief Executive Officer, Rob Orgel, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Cosmin Fittigoy, Chief Financial Officer. Our first quarter 2025 earnings press release supplemental presentation and one file form 10Q can be found at .Flywire.com. During the call, we'll be discussing certain forward-looking information. Actual results could differ materially from those contemplated by this forward-looking statement. We'll also be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to your press release and SEC filings for more information on the risks regarding these forward-looking statements that could cause actual results to differ materially and the required disclosures and reconciliations related to non-GAAP financial measures. This call is being webcast live and will be available for replay on our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Massara.

Thank you, Masha, and thank you to everyone who is joining us here today. We know there's a lot on everyone's mind, particularly regarding the broader economic landscape and various other external factors. While we acknowledge the challenging macro environment, I have never felt more proud of our performance or more confident in the future of Flywire. Let me take a few moments to tell you why. First, at Flywire, we remain laser focused on what we can control, driving innovation, delivering exceptional value to our clients, and executing on our strategic initiatives. We are not just weathering headwinds. We are using them to become stronger and fuel our future growth. We continue to see huge demand for Flywire solutions, as evident by our signing of 200 new clients this past quarter. Our pipeline is strong. Our solutions drive results. Our team is focused. Second, we have built a resilient business, one that has proven its ability to adapt and thrive in challenging times. These shifting and uncertain macroeconomic conditions are creating unique opportunities, and our Flymates are capitalizing on them. As our clients and prospects increasingly focus on ROI enhancing initiatives in vendor consolidation, Flywire stands out by delivering a suite of products, clear cost savings, and operational efficiencies. Our clients consistently express their appreciation for our solutions, and we are proud to maintain a very low churn rate, reflecting the strong partnerships we have built. This resilience is rooted in our core strength, our software driven payments platform that sets us apart and enables us to deliver significant value, efficiency, and superior experience. Third, Flywire's unique position in the market is driven by our powerful combination of specialized vertical specific software, our proprietary global payment network, and comprehensive payment platform. Thanks to this combination, we can go to market in our core industries with a robust product suite that offers clients a single source solution to manage all their payments, pricing and support, while providing their customers a superior payment experience. We have powerful software integrations that seamlessly fit into our clients' backend system, making us fast to implement and deepening our moat. And because we control our network, we provide our clients with daily settlement, reconciled to the penny for both international and domestic payments. Flywire's unique approach enables us to power the vertical ecosystems that we serve, and helps us stand out from standard payment processors and horizontal competitors. And finally, we believe in the long-term success of our core verticals, and we believe there will be continued demand for our solutions. Take international education, for example. The desire for international education is driven by more than academics. It is about gaining global perspective, experiencing new cultures, and pursuing opportunities often unavailable at home. Top talent seeks environments where their skills are valued and rewarded. And international students are key drivers of innovation, economic growth, and future leadership. We believe that long-term trends like global skill shortages and aging populations, especially in developed countries, will continue to fuel demand for global education for years to come. International students also generate significant economic value for local communities and sustain the institutions that educate them. In short, the global competition for talent and the enduring appeal of international education remain powerful forces shaping the future. Now moving on to something we announced last quarter, our operational and portfolio review. As part of this review, the organization is streamlining its structure, removing management layers across various areas. This involves consolidating reporting lines within payments and product, data and analytics, IT systems, and strategy and business operations functions, while also optimizing investments and capital allocation across products, geographies, and verticals to drive greater efficiency and impact. Under the direction of our newly appointed chief payments officer, Flywire is accelerating its payment strategy in technical alignment across all verticals, driving significant product innovation. This change centralizes strategy, business development, operations, monetization, and product management for all payment-related aspects under one team. We are actively utilizing data analytics and fostering initiatives to build new acceptance rails, increase localization, expand domestic payment capabilities, and leverage AI to streamline onboarding support and KYC processes. From these efforts, we are already seeing results with the launch of our enhanced recurring payment capabilities introduced in the first quarter, and improved cost and speed of payments in the United States. We are also happy to announce yet another partnership in India to support flows to further expand loan acceptance solutions in this key payer market. We believe our global payment network and payment capabilities are truly differentiated, and this is an important step to take a competitive advantage in the verticals we serve. As part of the operational and portfolio review, we are tackling several areas to ensure continued OPEX discipline and efficient capital allocation. We are investing in procurement and vendor management functions, and reviewing our global footprint to optimize costs. Our team continues to refine pricing strategies across our portfolio to maintain competitiveness and profitability, reflecting the unique value proposition of our integrated global payment network, shared platform, and our growing suite of software products. We are optimizing performance across our teams, reprioritizing the utilization of resources for key projects, increasing productivity with new technologies, aligning our investments to value creation, and diligently measuring results to ensure accountability and continuous improvement. And we are further aligning hiring and compensation to drive a high-performance culture, minimizing duplicate roles, enhancing geographic alignment. These efforts ensure that our platform is supported by a highly motivated, skilled, and efficient team of flymates. Additionally, we are progressing with a digital transformation initiative to create a more focused approach to data, analytics, and system transformation. We are investing in our data architecture, leveraging structured data across our unique verticals, which will enable us to generate real-time insights, predictive capabilities, and generating unique and innovative AI use cases for our teams and our clients. Using data and AI to drive more efficient processes and insights and to maximize long-term value, we are also investing in the foundational work to truly set up for speed, accuracy, and enterprise-wide AI deployment. At the same time, we are optimizing our systems and tools, consolidating our vendor footprint, and automating processes. For example, we accelerated the process to onboard new clients, driving significant improvement in the client experience while reducing internal manual processes. These initiatives collectively demonstrate Flywire's commitment to driving productivity, optimizing investments, and streamlining operations. This digital transformation will further enhance our platform's capabilities and provide deeper insights for our teams and our clients. To close, I want to highlight some of the powerful fundamentals that position Flywire for long-term growth and success. We are building something truly differentiated, combining vertical tailored software and modern payments, helping to digitize global payment flows. Our solutions are not simply bolted on. We are deeply integrated with our clients' core business processes, enabling them to operate more efficiently at scale. This is at the heart of how we solve complex problems for our clients, whether it is managing receivables, streamlining their back office, or delivering seamless payment experiences across borders. We are also innovating quickly. Our strong land and expand motion is proving that when clients experience the value of one Flywire product, they often grow with us, adopting additional solutions like student financial services software or our payables product. That organic expansion is accelerating recurring revenue and deepening our long-term client relationships. In education, we continue to gain traction in new markets and with top institutions globally. In B2B and travel, our recent acquisitions like Invoiced and Certify are unlocking new capabilities and creating powerful cross-sell opportunities. Rob will speak more about the momentum we're seeing in areas like SFS and StudyLink globally. Our business is growing, we are profitable, and we continue to win new clients and deliver significant value to them. Flywire's success is driven by deep industry knowledge and the passion of our team. In the face of a tough macroeconomic climate and geopolitical uncertainty, our team has shown grit, agility, and unwavering focus. And it's you, our Flymates, the product managers, the engineers, operational and corporate teams, and many customer-facing champions who are making it happen. You're the ones delivering real value, solving hard problems, helping to win client trust all over the world. Thank you for your continued hard work and dedication. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Rob Orgel, our President and COO, to discuss vertical and operational performance.

Rob? Good evening. I'll share operational and client highlights today, focusing on how our strategy drives performance across key verticals and markets. Let me jump right in with education first. I know a top of mind question is the macro trend for international education and what's happening around the world. In particular, how important destination markets are managing policies that relate to international student numbers. Our strong results in Q1 occurred in a climate with meaningful visa and macroeconomic pressures. Our continuing view is that the underlying value and underlying demand for international education remains strong, but that the rapidly changing landscape means it's a very dynamic international education market. As I'll outline, Flywire is leveraging our global footprint to capture the movements between destination countries, leveraging our full solution platform to support clients and grow revenue, and deepening our agent and banking network to capture an increasing share of international students. In terms of how our global footprint helps us, an emerging trend is that international education is expanding beyond traditional markets, with Germany, France, Japan, and Singapore experiencing significant growth. Flywire is capitalizing on this shift by making strategic investments and local payment capabilities and focusing sales efforts to capture the expansive client opportunities in these and similar countries. While the traditional big four markets of the US, UK, Canada, and Australia are approximately 40% of global international students, there are still another almost 40% going to Flywire's next 20 addressable markets, and we can continue to expand in those markets and potentially add more. A few examples include our new domestic contract in Mexico with International House Mexico, growing success in France, including deeper integrations with College de Paris and American University in Paris, and the addition of two new education clients in Singapore, East Asia Institute of Management and Singapore University of Technology and Design. These demonstrate the importance of being local and offering compelling value on both domestic and cross border payments. In terms of how our platform helps us, we continue to push to do more for our clients. We're pushing to handle more and more of their payment volume, and we are handling broader aspects of the student experience. For example, we continue to make progress expanding StudyLink globally with our recent win at the University of Niagara Falls in Canada, following last quarter's Birkbeck expansion in the UK. In times when absolute student numbers are uncertain, these significant expansions of software capability enable us to capture more opportunities in the market. Now, focusing on the UK, our UK education segment is experiencing remarkable momentum, driven in part by the successful launch of our student financial software last year. We have four new SFS clients signed and committed to roll out in Q2. These UK universities will leverage SFS to manage a comprehensive range of student fees, including applications, deposits, tuition, accommodation, and payment plans, streamlining the entire student financial journey. Our recent flagship UK education conference generated significant interest from new clients, and we're excited about our pipeline for SFS in the UK market. A key recent win was securing the University of Greenwich in a competitive RFP. Our success was driven by our unique software capabilities that seamlessly integrate domestic, cross-border, and collections management into a single user-friendly system. This win positions us to capture all the main payments throughout the student's academic life cycle. Beyond new client acquisitions, we're expanding our footprint with prestigious institutions like Oxford and Cambridge by adding new colleges and successfully upselling our payables and refunds capabilities to our existing UK clients. With the addition of SFS, StudyLink, and payables to our product suite, we've solidified our market presence in the UK and our sales and customer teams continue to capitalize on this strong momentum. Moving on to the US. While the US education sector presents some forecasting complexities, in part due to recent news regarding visa revocations and restorations, as well as questions on overall long-term immigration policy, we are proactively monitoring this situation and quickly adjusting our strategies accordingly. Importantly, our focus extends beyond just international students. We are deeply invested in software integrations and solving complex pain points for all students, regardless of their origin. Whether it's domestic payment processing, tuition management, or collections, our solutions are designed to enhance the overall student experience. This means that even with potential visa fluctuations, we are confident in our ability to thrive by delivering critical value to our education clients. We're generating strong results with our US strategy to capture additional payment flows, accelerate SFS adoption, and displace legacy incumbents. In Q1, US education had its most successful quarter in terms of signed ARR from full suite SFS deals, securing five new deals in the first quarter, along with several additional deals for our collections management and third party invoicing solutions. We'll be working hard to get these clients live and generating revenue within the year. The domestic SFS offering also presents a significant land and expand opportunity with only an estimated 10% attach rate among our existing US cross-border education clients. Moving to Australia and Canada. Both Australia and Canada have just had elections. And while this may help bring some clarity to policy, there are some continuing market uncertainty around potential policy shifts. While the sector waits for more policy clarity, we are focused on our clients and their students. As an example, the university of Niagara falls adoption study link in Canada was a notable product expansion for both study link and for us in Canada. We're also working with our clients to strategically utilize our agent network to attract students for more diverse geographic regions, given the reduced volumes from India to Canada. We've previously discussed. In Australia, we have seen the market be more resilient to this point in the year than we previously anticipated, but we are also fresh off an election that occurred just days ago. We believe we outperformed the overall market as measured by incoming international student volumes based on the same factors I mentioned above, more wins, more product adoption, and more agent assisted payment volume. Adding new wins like Charles Stewart university and Federation university helped our performance alongside our portfolio that has a favorable waiting towards top tier institutions. While Australia continues to exhibit strong demand, universities are rapidly filling available seats in the first half of the year. Their second half enrollment rates may be adjusted downward to reflect their observing of the visa caps, which we have already assumed in our full year guidance. You can see there's a lot of very positive client and product activity from our education team globally. Now, let me shift gears to our travel vertical. We are replicating the success of our education vertical expansion in the travel sector, where we continue to see strong momentum in both customer acquisition and revenue growth. Our differentiated approach, featuring advanced integration capabilities, competitive pricing, and solutions tailored to the needs of travel businesses positions us as a true partner to our clients. In Q1 2025, notable new clients include Hamam group in Norway, a leading inbound tour operator in Scandinavia, which selected Flywire for our seamless booking system integration, multi-currency payment capabilities, and diverse payment options. Ozen reserve and the Maldives also joined our client base, drawn by strong referrals and our cost effective solutions, further establishing Flywire in the luxury travel market. We also saw promising early traction with luxury and boutique accommodation providers onboarding 21 new clients in Q1. The certified acquisition is transformative, unlocking opportunities with luxury and boutique hotels and monetizing payments tied to critical workflows. We also anticipate substantial growth through significantly enhancing certified payment upselling efforts, leveraging Flywire's extensive payment infrastructure and network, which has the potential to unlock billions in incremental volume. This strategic acquisition provides us with both breadth of geographic reach and depth of product offerings, positioning us to build a highly scalable and substantial business within the travel sector. In Q1 2025, Certify achieved notable milestones, including a large US based hotel management company that operates a broad portfolio of branded properties across the country. The client expanded its use of Certify Pay to include credit card and ACH processing at 65 properties aiming to lower fees and expedite payments. Furthermore, we are actively developing plans to leverage Flywire's global -to-market expertise to accelerate Certify's international expansion. Integration efforts between Flywire and Certify are progressing well with both teams energized by the cross-selling opportunities and the better together value proposition. While the broader travel sector is sensitive to macro economic conditions, we are currently not observing significant macro driven headwinds impacting our business. With strong marketing and sales efficiency and travel and great customer retention, we continue to invest in growing our client base and serving our clients. Combining our existing travel business with Certify, we now have an over $100 million travel business in Flywire based on the last 12 month run rate. It's a platform that serves across multiple segments, multiple geographies, and increasingly diverse use cases with our clients. We provided more details in this quarter's earnings supplement, and we encourage you to look those over to see how we continue to grow a sizable business with attractive unit economics. Moving on to our B2B vertical. In our B2B vertical, we're seeing payment volume monetization as well as cross-selling opportunities and increased client adoption thanks to our invoice to cash and embedded payments solution. This joint software and payments value proposition led to a significant win with Sojourn, a leading marketing technology company for hospitality. Sojourn aims to benefit from Flywire's invoice software ability to reduce time to pay and customer return due to non-payment along with automated payment reconciliation for bank transfers, a key value proposition for them. Flywire's B2B solution addresses pain points like a lack of customer portals, payment reconciliation issues, and customer churn. Key wins with companies like nine round kickboxing, insurance for students and Olay life highlight Flywire's ability to streamline invoicing, automate cash application, reduce FX fees and offer local payment options. These solutions integrate with systems of record, manage charge backs and enable local payments without our clients requiring a local entity. Wrapping up with healthcare, we believe Flywire's healthcare business is preparing to enter a period of strong growth validated by a key deal closure and robust integrations with major EHR systems. We won this deal due to our unique ability to offer a comprehensive solution. While many companies compete in specific areas like financing, engagement, or payments, Flywire is the only provider that integrates all of these functionalities into a single seamless offering. This success has significantly expanded the 2025 pipeline driven new wins and increased demo requests due to our comprehensive offering and the recent major client win. In conclusion, I am pleased with the resiliency of our teams and alignment on strategy. I am confident we are building a stronger business for the longterm. Now, let me turn the call over to Cosmon who will take us through the numbers in more detail. Good afternoon

everyone. Today I'll walk you through our Q1 2025 financial performance and then discuss our outlook for the rest of the year. Turning to our performance this quarter, let's start with revenue. Revenue list ancillary services was $128.7 million in Q1 representing a .8% -over-year growth rate or .6% on an FX neutral basis. Excluding Certify revenue was 124 million in Q1 representing a .6% -over- year or .4% on an FX neutral basis. This was above the high end of our guidance, primarily driven by outperformance in Flywire's travel and Australian education businesses. Certify contributed $4.7 million since acquisition in late February, which was approximately 1 million above the midpoint of our $3 to $4 million range. Canada higher education revenue results continue to be impacted by macro headwinds, shaving three points of growth this quarter. Looking at the two components of our revenue, transaction revenue is based on fees as a percent of transaction value, while platform and other revenue consists of softer like fees. Starting with transaction revenue, we saw a 14% -over-year increase approximately 2% points of which were attributable to Certify. This was driven by a 28% increase in transaction related payment volume, one percentage point of which was attributable to Certify primarily in our education vertical as well as travel. Our domestic education business in the UK is growing strongly, including the launch of SFS products. Similarly, the U S education business is seeing strong growth in domestic payment volumes. And while the modernization rate is lower compared to cross border or cross border spreads remain relatively stable. And we see domestic payments as a substantial market opportunity globally platform and other revenues increased 35% year over year, primarily driven by platform fees that do not carry payment volumes, specifically revenue associated with the contribution from Certify of approximately $3 million and invoiced of approximately $1.5 million and improvements in our healthcare business. Adjusted gross profit increased to 82.5 million during the quarter up .6% year over year. Adjusted gross margin was 64% in Q1 2025, which represents a decrease of about 110 basis points compared to Q1 2024. Excluding Certify, adjusted gross profit grew 10% to 79 million with margins down by approximately 150 BIPs due to mixed effects from higher growth of the travel vertical and some effects on settlement losses. Adjusted EBITDA was above the midpoint of our guide and grew to 21.6 million for the quarter. Excluding Certify, adjusted EBITDA margin was up nearly 480 basis points year over year. This split adjusted EBITDA at $20.6 million, up 56% compared to the 13.2 million in Q1 2024. The strength in adjusted EBITDA margin was driven by gross profit growth and disciplined expense management. We aim to continue achieving meaningful operating leverage as non-GAP OPEX grows significantly slower than gross profit. Excluding Certify, non-GAP OPEX was slightly down year over year in Q1. Our non-GAP GNA costs as a percent of revenue decreased by 443 basis points in the first quarter and by approximately 8% in dollar terms as we continue to streamline and automate manual processes. We continue to also take a very disciplined approach to stock-based compensation based on employee performance and including the recent restructuring. Including Certify, we expect stock-based compensation to be in the range of 12 to 13% of revenue for full year 2025, which is lower compared to 2024. To close out the income statement, in Q1, we had a GAP NED loss of $4.2 million, representing a year over year improvement of approximately 2 million. Restructuring costs of $7.3 million and $2.5 million in acquisition-related expenses weighed on net income this quarter, but we still expect slightly positive GAP NED income results on a full year basis, excluding Certify. Turning to capital allocation, in the first quarter of 2025, we repurchased 3.6 million Flywire shares under our previously announced stock repurchase program for approximately $49 million, with $57 million remaining in the current buyback program. Flywire has consistently high free cash flow conversion and a strong balance sheet, which enables us to continue to return capital to shareholders. Moving on to guidance, while current visibility remains limited due to the evolving global landscape, we are confident in our strong product portfolio, client retention, and established product market fit. We are proactively investing in automation and product development to further enhance our offerings, with a focus on scale and productivity across all areas to drive strong gross profit growth, expand margins, and strong cash flows, and we will continue to lean in to emerge stronger from market downturns. The news flow around the U.S. education market, specifically around international students in China, U.S. tensions, may weigh on demand. We will be data dependent as we approach our peak Q3 season, including engaging with both universities and agent networks, watching cross-border trends, and observing external data, such as the U.S. visa trends in the crucial summer months, that lead up to our peak Q3 quarter. Our current expectation is that U.S. revenue growth will be in the low single digits, and expect F1 visas to be down slightly more than last year. This compares to last year U.S. education revenue up 13%, and visas down approximately 10%. To frame the potential scenarios in U.S. education, it is important to keep in mind a few dimensions. First, only a portion of the students in the U.S. are first year students. And while students from China and India are the largest corridors, these two sourced countries account for less than half of our cross-border revenues. In addition, U.S. tuition payments are generally split across the second half of the current year and early 2026, depending on tuition timing. Before discussing guidance, please note that while we split out certify in Q1 guidance, given the acquisition timing, going forward, we will plan to combine and report adjusted EBITDA for total company only. However, we will plan to continue to provide revenue separately for certify this year. Now, on to full year revenue guidance. Following a strong Q1 start with better than expected trends in Australia education, healthcare, and travel sectors, balanced by cautious growth assumptions in our U.S. education business, we are maintaining our full year 2025 revenue guidance for FX neutral revenue less ancillary services growth in the range of 10 to 14 percent excluding certify. With certify, we are guiding to 17 to 23 percent FX neutral revenue growth. As you see in the supplement, this now assumes a U.S. education revenue growth of low single digits. Australia and Canada education assumed to be down in the high 20 percent year of year and healthcare growing in the high single digits with the rest of the business growing above the midpoint of the guide on average. On travel, we are not flowing through the recent outperformance of our travel business for the remainder of the year, as we believe it is prudent given the potential softer macro. Similarly, certify revenues expected to remain in the range of 35 to 40 million dollars even as we have exceeded the Q1 estimate. On FX, with the weaker U.S. rates, we now expect the FX impact on full year revenue to be around a negative one percent. Moving on to full year EBITDA guidance, we are not changing our prior guidance and maintaining our plans to drive operational deficiencies across the year starting with the restructuring announced last quarter. Our core flower margin expansion guidance remains unchanged and adjusted for the addition of certify. Our full year guidance implies 100 to 300 BIPs of margin expansion. However, as we highlighted last quarter, we've reduced OPEX growth after the last few years of high investment cycles and we plan to reinvest a portion of our cost savings from the restructuring efforts back into the business and selectively continue hiring to the second half of the year. However, all this will be data dependent as we balance hiring and additional OPEX levers from the operational review, giving us confidence in managing our margin commitments even in a more difficult macro scenario. Shifting to Q2 guidance, as communicated last quarter following a higher growth in Q1, we expect some tougher lapping in Q2 and Q3 this year. As a result, we expect FX neutral revenue growth, excluding certify, to be in the 7 to 11 percent range year over year, including certify revenue of 10 to 12 million dollars in Q2. We expect FX neutral revenue growth to be in the 17 to 23 percent range year over year. Note that we are estimating no FX headwind in Q2 based on spot rates as of March 31st, 2025. Adjusting data margins are expected to continue to expand year over year, albeit at a slower pace compared to Q1, and we anticipate a 150 to 350 BIPs margin improvement in Q2. In closing, we're focused on strategic investments in data and AI to improve operational efficiency and pursuing geographic expansion in travel and education, where returns are attractive. While our guidance doesn't account for a global recession, we are prepared to adjust investments and hiring to maintain financial flexibility and continue driving strong cash flows. I'll now turn it back over to the operator for questions. Operator?

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your line is live. No,

sorry guys, I'm on mute there. Cosmon, just wanted to start with the FX guide, FX neutral guide, X-certified for the second quarter at 9%. I think the full year guide would imply at the midpoint you're going to accelerate back to call it 12% in the second half. I just really want to understand the drivers there. I know the comps get easy, but obviously very uncertain kind of macro backdrops. I really want to understand the slowdown in 2Q and then the reacceleration in the back half.

Yeah, hey, thanks JD. So let me walk you quickly through the shape of the year. So as you saw from Q1 into Q2 and Q3, it is lapping. The way to think about Q2 also, there's that sort of Easter holiday effect. As you think about sort of starting with Q2 and Q3 building back up to Q4, there's a few things. The most notable one we've talked about, which is Canada. So you heard me in my prepared remarks, that's about a three point impact in the first quarter. That sort of carries and actually gets a little bit more into Q2, just given the timing of Canadian payments. And then in the second half, because of that first year payment dynamic we talked about, that's expected to come back. So that's roughly three points there that would build towards that second half and Q4 acceleration. The other two or three points that build towards sort of the Q4 acceleration are one, obviously there's an easier lap as you think about Q4 where we had a significant lowering of the growth rate going from Q3 into Q4. And then we talked about the health care sort of large client that is ramping in the second half. But we also have a number of other clients. You heard Rob talk about a number of SFS clients and we're again excited about the B2B business is doing really well. So there's a number of clients ramping also into the second half. So really, you know, all those give us comfort around the overall 12 percent midpoint, excluding certified.

OK, that's helpful. And then, Mike, maybe a bigger picture if we just take a step back. Obviously, there's been a lot of conversation around demand of international students to go abroad for school. I'm curious if that's had any impact on conversations with the schools themselves. Are they less in a hurry? Do they, you know, is there less willingness for them to have a conversation to sign up new customers? Just curious how the sales cycle has been impacted by what's going on on the demand side.

Yeah, I mean, on the on the two sides, I mean, obviously, we put up great the client acquisition numbers, as Rob highlighted, we're not seeing any kick out in demand. I mean, remember, we've been around for well over a decade. We've seen multiple, you know, macroeconomic climates. Our clients look to our software and our solution is helping them digitize, helping them perform better, do more with less. And so we don't see any, if anything, it's people looking at opportunities to replatform or use technology better. I think that's a general trend in tech. And when it comes to the actual student demand side of it, too, I think people need to remember international students, their families. It's often been a lifelong plan to study abroad. Sometimes they're continuing a legacy. Sometimes they're, you know, both the generational ambition of the family to have someone kind of seek that next level of higher education. So, you know, these students, these families, they have multiple choices. They can go to various geographies. But I think the U.S. is still the number one market for international students. We've not seen any data that we think that's going to change. And a lot goes into that family and that student's decision to to choose a country to market. So, you know, we think in any scenario, international students are going to be resilient and they're going to pursue kind of a better life and improvement. And we think, you know, our clients keep looking for ways to just improve and automate what our legacy outdated tech systems that they have in a lot of their software stack. And we're here to help them do that.

OK, appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Next question comes from Timothy Chaiotra with UBS. Please proceed.

Great. Thank you for taking the question. I want to talk a little bit about the UK mix. So you made some comments around the momentum in the UK, at least in our estimates. I believe the UK business is just shy in terms of its mix of revenue relative to the US. So it's a pretty important market. If you could talk just broadly around kind of a rough range around the type of growth you're seeing in the UK, the reason for this is we can kind of get a sense of the growth contribution. So if it's roughly 20 percent of revenue growing, roughly X, five percent ish, we can kind of get a sense of what the revenue growth contribution is. Thanks.

Yeah, thanks. Then maybe I'll start now, pass it over to Rob if there's any follow ups. But just in terms of overall, UK is now actually our largest market. We don't necessarily break it out. We did it in the EMEA numbers in the in the 10 Q, but it is one of the is now our largest market in education. And so we've obviously seen very strong growth. You've heard us talk about it last year. You saw that part of the business was growing almost 60 percent. Now, obviously, that's a very large business. So there's a sort of a natural law of large numbers in that as you as you continue growing at that scale. But we're excited about, of course, a lot of a lot of products that have been driving that growth in the past. And now we've got new products, as you heard from Rob, the domestic component of it is, you know, it's growing and we're excited about it. And obviously, the clients are interested in it. And the same with the U.S. But hopefully that gives you a little bit of a framing.

And it's Rob, I'll just add on quickly that the products we were bringing to the UK is really quite distinctive and unique. You heard me comment on the four SFS clients already. That's a product that we only recently introduced in the UK market. And I was at our UK conference earlier in the quarter in Q1 and believe we have a very bright future in terms of SFS. It's not the only product that we're bringing to the UK. Right. We brought StudyLink to the UK and shared our first win on that platform, as well as payables, third party invoicing and other capabilities that we have there. So a lot of seeds of growth being

planted for the future.

Excellent. Thank you both.

The next question comes from Tenzin Wand with JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Thanks so much. A good result and outcome here. I'm just curious, just thinking about the sources of upside this quarter. It sounds like it was Australia, of course, travel. But is there a way to maybe to rank in your minds what what came in a little bit ahead of a plan and where do you have a little bit more conviction on growth versus the last time we got the call together? We heard where the visibility is tough. I'm curious where you have maybe a little more conviction on the on the upside. Thanks.

Yeah, because so I think for us, it's been travel has been consistent. And now with Certify, we saw that across both Certify and our existing travel business. And so, of course, there's no with all the questions around the macro. You know, we've seen very strong growth in both in both sides. I'd say travel is the number one driver and again, very excited about that vertical overall. Australia was was the other component a little bit less, but sort of less negative than we expected. And, you know, as you saw from Rob's comments, we we had we had the elections and we're going to have to watch the performance there. But it was encouraging, at least that the year didn't start as low as we thought. And that's why we we sort of reduced a little bit on the Australia impact that we thought we would see as you saw from down 30 percent to down in the high 20s for travel. However, we felt it was prudent not to flow through that upside until we watched the macro bit more. But certainly very, very excited about the trends there to start out the year.

Yeah, the only thing I'd add is this is Mike is, you know, obviously, you as higher ed and we continue to layer in just more software there. And, you know, I think that's something that, you know, when you look at us consistently just taking business from incumbents in that space, we think that's that's something that we're excited about. Happy with the team's performance in Q1 and really excited to see what they can do in the future.

That's great. Happy to see it just really quickly. I know it's probably not in the minds of everyone since health care is doing a little bit better in terms of your outlook there as well as it feel like you're turning the corner and getting to a place because it does feel like it's very insulated from everything that everyone's worried about.

Yeah, Tingen is Rob here. So so just as you said, we are excited about what's happening in that business. The thing I tried to call out in my comment was we do have a unique set of capabilities, right? Being able to do the three things I called out together is, in fact, unique and it's getting the attention of many players in the market. So if you look not just at the win that we've called out, there's other good things going on in the business in terms of indications from clients that they're interested in more of our capabilities as well as growth in pipeline, growth in demos, growth in all the activity inside that business. So we do feel we've we've turned a corner in an interesting way.

Thank you, guys. Next

question comes from Dan Perlin with RBC Capital. Please proceed.

Thanks. Mike, you made a comment about education, shifting to maybe non-traditional markets. I think you said you get the big four. It's 40 percent of global education, but you have like 20 other markets that represent another another 40 percent. So my question is, how much of those, let's say 20 markets today, is Flywire addressable? And then if if there's not the case, is there something that you can bring to bear in that market, let's say in the next six to nine months?

Hey, Dan, it's Rob here. That was actually my comment. So I'm sorry. Yeah, no worries. No worries. So so when we when I when I sort of presented that detail, that's talking about the next 20 markets that we do address. Right. And so there's sort of two vectors of growth ahead of us. So within those 20 markets in which we have existing clients and volumes, we have an opportunity to go penetrate those markets further. We also if we do see those markets continue to grow in popularity, we have the opportunity to capture sort of more share in those markets as their popularity increases. So that's within that sort of next 40 percent that that I addressed. There are still obviously markets in that remaining call at 20 percent that are opportunities for us to go and enable for growth. That's not what we're calling out today. And my my point was to focus on the next 20, which are the the majority markets and the bigger markets that we can make progress in. But, you know, know that those are good opportunities for us to go land more clients and capture more payments.

Got it. That's great. Thanks for the clarity. Just a quick follow up on the travel customer growth on one of the slides. I mean, you put up some interesting dynamics there and you also put the revenue growth kind of contributions over kind of a year on your perspective. I guess the question is, when we think about like the implementation backlog, how big is that today and kind of what time frame would you be thinking about getting that converted? Thank you.

Hi, Rob. Rob again here. So one of the beautiful things about the travel business is they tend to deploy far faster. So that's true both on the flywire side as well as on the certified side, you know, as compared to some of the conversations we have in the other verticals where the enterprise nature means it takes a little longer. These go very, very quickly. And we've talked about sort of an average duration that's measured in a small number of weeks or even less and not sort of these longer periods. So

the conversion is quick. Great, thank you.

The next question comes from Jason Kuffeberg with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Good afternoon. This is Tyler Dupont on for Jason. Thanks for taking our questions. I want to start by asking about the competitive positioning within education, you know, and whether there have been any changes to the landscape due to the current geopolitical environment. So it was encouraging to hear your SFS solution is beginning to gain more traction among higher ed institutions, but sort of given where we are today, it would be great to hear your thoughts. For example, you know, are you seeing competitors competing more aggressively on price to win or is it more steady as she goes just in a more muted demand environment? Is there any clarity around competitive dynamics, you know, given the market that we're in right now?

Yeah, you know, I would say, you know, we've always kind of competed off of, you know, product performance slash results in our people. And I don't think that's really changed in education. If anything, we're, you know, we still have a global footprint of clients. You know, the competitive landscape that we have in the United States with the incumbents is very different than what we see around the world. Right. We are not seeing those similar players in the other 40 plus markets. When we think about the software assets we have to take to these other markets, as Rob highlighted on the call, we can actually introduce products from Australia into the UK, the US products into Canada in the UK and really help grow revenue. And so, you know, we've always had a great reputation of solving problems in higher ed. And I think what we're just seeing is now multiple products offerings and getting lots of client references. And I think that's a flywheel that will benefit us. You know, I said earlier that we've taken business from incumbents. We continue to do it. We compete very well. Our team is very competitive in nature and wants to win. And that's what we do.

Great. That's super helpful. And then just any update regarding the operational and business portfolio review mentioned. I know you mentioned it a bit in the prepared remarks, but just sort of how you can clarify how far along in the process we are, how we should be thinking about margin implications. You know, I see F25 margin expansion guide is now 200 bits at the midpoint. I think it was 300 bits as of last quarter. Is any of that due to the review? You know, what sort of investments are you making there that's driving that? Just any clarity around the review and margin implications?

Yeah, yeah, sure. This is Mike. I'll start and I'm sure Cosmo will jump in too. You know, I had a whole bunch of areas in my prepared remarks that I called out. I mean, you know, we're looking at, you know, everything's on the table and I think, you know, management, the board is, you know, everything from how do we structure ourselves, the restructuring we announced prior. And that is everything from how we organize departments, you know, how we're using dollars to reinvest in certain areas like automation. You know, I called out things like procurement as being something that had never really been fully consolidated and been an aggressive area where we sought, you know, large cost savings opportunities. There's more we can do there. You know, when you look at a vertical, we're looking at every single product within that vertical and understanding how it's priced and making sure it's priced properly to the value that's being delivered in that product. And so, you know, looking at all areas of, you know, operating costs and everything to just run the best business we can and control what we can control. Yeah,

so from, you know, from a sort of cost perspective, obviously, Q1, you saw overall, you know, up X to the percent of revenue was down significantly, you know, GMA was down in particular. I called that out and that was really even before we got started with kind of the restructuring and some of the operational review. So feel good that, you know, the rest of the year we have those levers and then we can continue to drive operating leverage, not just on the non-GAAP cost, but also, as you heard me start talking about stock based comp too. And so we're looking at it together. And that's what when I look at margins, you know, for the year, as we sort of plan for any scenarios, we feel quite good that we have enough levers and capabilities to ensure that we can meet those commitments on the margin side and drive that free cash flow that

we talk about. Great. Thanks, Cosmo. Thanks, Mike.

The next question comes from Chris Kennedy with William Blair. Please proceed.

Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. The disclosures comparing the education versus the travel vertical are interesting. Is there any way to think about the NRR opportunity

between the two verticals? Yeah, hey, Chris, this is Cosmo. Maybe I'll start.

Yeah, look, it's going to be a little bit different than, you know, what we've looked at before. Obviously, the travel business has, although it has a very similar characteristic of land and expand, which drives that vertical. You also have a different market growth dynamic, but the way I would think about it is in the same disclosure. If you want to sort of understand a bit of the components of growth, the slide that has this year's growth for travel, so last year, sorry, growth for travel, you can see that a lot of the growth comes from new signs and from client ramp and a little bit less from volume growth from the market itself. And continuing to see again, we have upsell and cross-sell and as we build up the capabilities and the synergies that certify that bucket then can grow even more. So, at least the growth algorithm, the way to think about the travel business going forward, which again, it will be an important one for us since it'll be almost a quarter of our business into next year.

Yeah, and Chris, I'll just add anecdotally, the thing to realize is we have a track record of adding software products, right? And so if you look at not only the certify acquisition, heavily software based revenue stream, but also our clients tell us all the time what additional problems we can help them solve. And so that's part of the product and engineering and tech investment we're making, right, is to identify those other things similar to what we've done in education, layer in additional products, solve more value, drive additional growth, and we have a lot of really interesting things that clients want us to go after, some of which we already are starting to go after and seeing good results. But we think the future is really bright about layering in more software products to help drive value.

Got it. Very helpful. And then just, I guess, a follow up to that. When you think about NRR for the company, historically, it's been over 120%. And, you know, it's 114 last year, going to come down a little bit. But when you think about the long term, can you kind of talk about where you think this business should be at?

Yeah, look, obviously, as you saw, even last year, Canada alone put 10 points of pressure on NRR. You know, we have Australia and others. So the market itself is, you know, is a swimming up river, if you will. Obviously, we're getting stronger and still moving quite fast despite all of that will grow in quite well. But I think the way to think about the long term growth, even if you were to take Canada and Australia, which are down on you know high 20s percent, those two markets alone this year put, you know, almost four points of pressure on the growth rate. So versus if you would assume to just them being flat. So, you know, you've heard us talk before about, you know, we don't need the headwinds to turn into tailwinds. Even in a more normalized environment for a couple of these markets. We would be growing obviously much faster than we are. And so, and again, with healthcare kind of recovering the travel business, you know, becoming a bigger portion and growing faster. Obviously, there's a lot of hope in that. And as we look into the second half into the future, you know, obviously, that's where we're hoping to be. Obviously, we have to watch the macro environment. That's been the biggest pressure on that NRR number, which, you know, again, if you look at it excluding some of these headwinds, it would be in that same region. But again, we were dealing with those headwinds right now. So We have many, many other levers as we've talked about that help us get there and increasingly even more. I've talked, you know, several new products, the domestic opportunities and so forth, which again would build into that NRR algorithm.

Understood. Thanks for taking the questions.

The next question comes from Charles with Stevens. Please proceed.

Hi, good afternoon and thank you for taking my question. I just had a modeling question about EBITDA for the back half of the year. And I understand that things are very fluid and subject to change. But if my math is correct, it's coming out to about 40 bips of expansion in the second half of the year. I'm just curious how we should think about that from a cadence standpoint in the third and the fourth quarter as it stands today, how you're thinking about the timing of investments or any other puts and takes there.

Yeah, so the way I would think about it is, you know, obviously a bit more expansion in the first half. Partially is just the timing of the restructuring and some of the costs we talked about. Some of the mix component that I think you've noticed, obviously, you bring in Certify in and investing behind that. That part also comes in later in the year. And to some extent, again, I would think of it as us reallocating some of the savings into areas that Mike talked about. And then I would also think of the data analytics and other areas that help us grow scale. So that's why you're seeing a little bit lower expansion in the second half. However, again, all of that is sort of data dependent. We're watching the macro and we have levers to enable us to ensure that we can meet those commitments. And, you know, lastly, I'll say, you know, historically, obviously, that's one area where we've been able to manage last year. As you recall, we had a, you know, almost a 30 million headwind that we had to work against and we ended up, you know, exceeding on the margin side. So we do have levers, but also we will look to invest in the areas where we see future potential, especially in times like this where our customers need us most.

Got it. As a follow up, I wanted to ask about the gross profit per customer slide, slide 18, particularly for travel. You know, the expansion potential is pretty remarkable there. But if I'm looking at that chart, there's a bit of a dip from year one to year two. And then there's a pretty significant ramp up from three to four. I was hoping you could kind of walk us through how business, how that expands over the course of a travel customer relationship. This seems to be a little different from what we're used to within the education vertical.

Yeah, I can, I can start. So as Cosman. Yeah. So the year one for us, you know, because, you know, people ask, you know, about the travel and macro, we started the travel business in the middle of COVID. So you're you're sort of the first year there and the dynamics there are mostly sort of the pre and during COVID years. And that's why I would say that's what you're seeing that sort of dip and then the take up in the future. So that hopefully that helps. It's a little bit of a sort of a one off. I would say hopefully because obviously that was an extreme case. But otherwise, you know, we feel pretty good about the overall profitability of those customers and growing positive gross profit dollars, especially now with the addition of. Certify with software as you saw, you know, 70% of the business, you know, that that definitely improved the overall gross margin profile for the travel business.

Got it. I appreciate that clarification. Thank you.

At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to management for closing comments.

Thanks everybody for the time today and appreciate you joining the call.

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