Freshworks Inc.

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the FreshWorks second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during that time you will need to press star one one in your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Brian Lawn, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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welcome to FreshWorks second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Janice Woodside, FreshWorks Chief Executive Officer and President and Tyler Sloat, FreshWorks Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer. The primary purpose of today's call is to provide you with information regarding our second quarter 2025 performance and our financial estimates for our third quarter and full year 2025. Some of our discussion and responses to your questions may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements are based on our management's beliefs about our business and industry, including our financial expectations and estimates, uncertainties in the macroeconomic environment in which we operate and market volatility, the timing of future repurchases of our class A common stock and certain other assumptions made by the company, all of which are subject to change. These statements are subject to risk, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. Such risks include, but are not limited to, our ability to sustain our growth, to innovate, to reach our long-term revenue goals, to meet customer demand and to control costs and improve operating efficiency. For a discussion of additional material risks and other important factors that could affect our results, please refer to today's earnings release, our most recently filed form 10 K and other periodic filings with the SEC. Fresh Works assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call, except as required by law. During the course of today's call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures for historical periods are included in our earnings release, which is available on our investor relations website at .freshworks.com. I encourage you to visit our investor relations site to access our earnings release, supplemental earnings slides, periodic SEC reports and a replay of today's call or to learn more about Fresh Works. And with that,

let me turn it over to Dennis. Thank you, Brian. Fresh Works delivered an outstanding Q2, surpassing expectations across growth and profitability. We grew Q2 revenue 18% year over year to 204.7 million, expanded our non-GAAP operating margin to 22% and delivered a strong adjusted free cashflow margin of 27%. Collectively, these results clearly illustrate our ability to balance strong growth with profitability. We ended the quarter with over 74,600 customers, including leading global storage provider Seagate, leading international law firm, Covington and Burling, LLP, leading recruitment experts, Reed and retail energy supplier, AEP Energy. In Q2, we held our very successful Refresh Europe customer event where we introduced product innovations within the Freddie Agentic AI platform and across our EX and CX portfolio, which I'll talk about throughout this call. Our strategy has focused on three key growth drivers, investing in employee experience or EX, delivering AI capabilities across our products and accelerating adoption and driving continued expansion in customer experience or CX. On the first strategic imperative, employee experience, EX continues to lead in growth, achieving over 450 million in ARR, which represents 24% year over year growth on an as reported basis and 22% on a constant currency basis. With over 19,000 customers, our first lever in this area is growth in the mid-market and enterprise, together representing more than three fourths of ARR in EX. Our IT momentum underscores the value FreshWorks brings to our customers. We continue to displace legacy competitors as organizations choose fresh service because we reduce complexity, accelerate efficiency, and enable tangible growth through our AI powered platform. As an example, Steel Dynamics, one of the largest and most diversified US steel producers replaced ServiceNow with Fresh Service. Another example is Kayak, a leading global travel search engine who chose Fresh Service to replace Jira Service Management. Since the implementation, Kayak has reported improved ticket volume, productivity and visibility. Kayak has also been using Freddie AI features like Ticket Summary Generator and Ticket Field Suggestions to help agents work faster with greater accuracy. The second EX growth driver and expansion lever is our Enterprise Service Management Solutions. Our customers are increasingly using Fresh Service in other areas of their businesses outside of IT. For example, Nextstar Media Group, one of the largest local broadcasting companies in the US streamlined its employee support experience by migrating to Fresh Service. Nextstar went live across three distinct workplaces, consolidating IT, digital, HR, payroll and legal into a single unified platform in weeks. Fresh Service reduced complexity for the employees and over 200 support agents and Nextstar achieved a 35% cost savings. Another customer, Michael's Stores, the leading creative destination in North America with over 1300 locations, chose Fresh Service to modernize IT and business operations as part of a strategic initiative to streamline operations and drive scalable growth. Michael's onboarded 900 agents, migrated over three years of ticket history and deployed Fresh Service across IT, HR and facilities to streamline incident management, asset tracking, employee journeys and vendor risk. At the end of Q2, we released Fresh Service Journeys, a powerful new tool designed to help HR teams automate and streamline the cumbersome process of managing employee transitions, including onboarding, offboarding, promotions and relocations. Qualifon's VP of IT operations said Fresh Service has completely transformed their onboarding process. What used to take days can now be done in hours. He also said it has enabled him to reduce risk and deliver a more secure, compliant offboarding experience at scale. We believe that our ESM solutions could be a $100 million plus opportunity for us and a meaningful long-term way to grow EX beyond IT. Our third growth driver in EX is our advanced ITAM offering with Device 42. Two of the top five deals in the quarter included Device 42. Customers like Seagate deployed Fresh Service to modernize IT operations and later expanded to Device 42, tapping into the seamless integrations between the two products to unify asset discovery and service management. Finally, we introduced Fresh Service for MSPs, a new ITSM product for small managed service providers. This solution is built on the core Fresh Service foundation and is designed to help growing MSPs seamlessly manage multiple clients without adding complexity or overhead. In addition to these two product innovations, we released key features for Fresh Service that are designed to improve productivity and reduce mean time to resolution, like the ability to make parallel approvals in a workflow. Now, onto our second imperative, delivering AI capabilities and driving adoption of AI. Customers are no longer just experimenting with AI, they're moving beyond the pilot phase, finding practical applications that drive measurable, transformative results. Over 5,000 customers are now paying for our co-pilot and AI agent products. And ARR from these two SKUs crossed 20 million in Q2, more than doubling ARR from a year ago. In Q2, Freddie Copilot was included in more than 55% of our new large customer deals over $30,000. And we saw double digit attach rates for new SMB customers. We ended the quarter with over 3,300 customers, a sequential growth of 21% quarter over quarter. One such customer, a global law firm with nearly 50 offices in 20 countries and thousands of employees, replaced ServiceNow with FreshWorks and is using Freddie Copilot to drive efficiency and accelerate time to value. Freddie AI customers are realizing tangible business value. Our recent annual fresh service benchmark report revealed that organizations using Freddie Copilot reduced resolution time by 76% and first response time by 41%. With Freddie AI agent, organizations saw a ticket deflection rate of 65% and over 400,000 hours of agent time saved across IT and ESM. Now in June, we launched several agentic AI innovations. First, we introduced Freddie AI agent studio for FreshDesk, a powerful platform to build and manage AI agents that take autonomous actions like issuing refunds, checking order statuses and updating customer records. Organizations can build dozens of agentic workflows, define business rules and connect to external systems, all using a visual no-code intuitive interface. Secondly, we launched Freddie AI agent for email in FreshDesk, designed for organizations where email is the primary support channel. The agent reads the request, finds the right answer, responds and closes the ticket entirely on its own. Third, we added Freddie AI agent for unified search in fresh service, designed to connect to systems like Microsoft SharePoint and Teams, so that employees can receive faster and more accurate answers. And finally, Freddie AI insights for fresh service became generally available in Q2. It provides proactive, actionable intelligence to IT teams about the operational health of their IT service footprint. We're pleased with the early signals we're seeing from customers and look forward to providing updates on customer use cases in the coming months. Our third strategic imperative, customer experience, saw meaningful improvements. CX grew to over 380 million in ARR, which represents 11% growth year over year on an as reported basis, and 8% on a constant currency basis. We believe this acceleration and growth reflects customer sentiment that FreshDesk is easier to implement and use than the legacy competitors. While our small business customers continue to represent over half of our CX ARR, in Q2, we saw strong momentum with large organizations turning to FreshDesk for our powerful, uncomplicated customer experience software. We also secured a substantial cross-sell opportunity spanning both employee and customer experience with a leading science and engineering research center. Our AI products continue to be an expansion driver for CX. Honda Motor Europe selected FreshDesk to modernize its customer support operations across 36 countries, deploying 220 agents with Freddie AI Copilot. The team needed a solution that could scale across the region and provide real-time auto translation to serve a multilingual dealer and technician network. By replacing its legacy Java-based system, Honda now delivers faster, more consistent support experiences through FreshDesk. With Freddie Copilot, agents can streamline communication, deflect tickets via multilingual self-service, and work more efficiently, all on a flexible, secure, and AI-powered platform built with a strong focus on supporting European operations. Freddie AI agents are driving measurable results for FreshDesk customers. One example is a healthcare provider who reduced response times by 35%, improved first contact resolution by 40%, and saw a 25% boost in CSAT, all while scaling support and containing costs, with AI now handling 35% of queries autonomously. In addition to the new AI capabilities for FreshDesk that I mentioned earlier, we released significant product updates, such as CSAT versioning and analytics. This feature is designed to give supervisors deeper insights into customer satisfaction drivers by connecting CSAT scores to specific operational behaviors and performance indicators. They can then make data-driven coaching decisions and identify which agent actions and ticket handling patterns correlate with higher customer satisfaction scores. Another expansion path in CX is customers adopting EX products after having a positive experience with FreshDesk. A recent example of a customer using FreshWorks products to drive efficiency across both customer and employee experiences is Momentive Software, a cloud-based provider serving nonprofits and mission-driven organizations. After successfully deploying FreshDesk for customer support, Momentive expanded to FreshService, replacing ServiceNow. Within weeks of launch, Momentive reported measurable efficiency gains, including fewer ticket reassignments and stronger SLA performance, early validation of improved efficiency and user satisfaction. We're pleased with the results in our CX business, underscored by the improved growth rate during the second quarter. Now across both EX and CX, our momentum in specific industry verticals continues. We are privileged to serve 2025 sports champions, including NBA champions Oklahoma City Thunder, European football champions, Paris Saint-Germain, and Scottish football champions, Celtic Football Club. I'm also excited about the partnership we announced earlier this month with the McLaren Formula One team, the 2024 Constructors Champions. FreshWorks branding appeared on both McLaren cars last weekend at the Belgian Grand Prix, where the McLaren team finished 1-2 on top of the podium. We anticipate that this multi-year partnership with McLaren will build further brand awareness and engagement with CIOs. These sports organizations trust us to power their world-class operations behind the scenes so that they can power greatness on the track, court, and field. We're honored that FreshWorks plays a part in their historic runs. In the public sector, more than 1,000 local, state, and national government entities trust FreshWorks, including the State of California Franchise Tax Board, Maryland Department of General Services, and the State of Oregon's Department of Forestry. Finally, in Q2, we saw momentum in the new global partner program that we announced earlier in the year. Our partners touched more than 1 third of our ARR in Q2, and we have onboarded over 130 new partners to our ecosystem this year. Additionally, we signed a deal with another global service integrator. This partnership will help us reach more mid-sized companies and entities in higher education, local government, and other public sectors in the UK market. I'm energized by the opportunity ahead to serve businesses that demand speed, simplicity, and value. Our enterprise-grade software delivers faster time to value and a lower total cost of ownership, which is what thousands of businesses want today. Thank you to our customers, partners, employees, and shareholders for your ongoing support. Now let me turn it over to Tyler to go through the operational and financial details.

Thanks, Dennis, and thanks everyone for joining on the call and via webcast today. We are pleased to report another quarter of strong results at FreshWorks. Our Q2 performance reflects continued momentum across the business with solid revenue growth, margin expansion, and disciplined execution of our strategy. We're seeing healthy demand for our -to-use, innovative solutions that help businesses of all sizes improve productivity and deliver exceptional customer experiences. We exceeded our top-line growth estimates and improved our non-GAAP operating margin to 22%, an increase of over 14 percentage points compared to a year ago. We grew our adjusted free cash flow 65% -over-year to $54.3 million, which resulted in an adjusted free cash flow margin of 27%, also ahead of our previously provided estimates. For our call today, I'll cover the Q2 2025 financial results, provide background on the key metrics, and close with our forward-looking commentary and updated expectations for Q3 and full year 2025. As a reminder, most of our discussion will be focused on non-GAAP financial results, which exclude the impact of stock-based compensation expenses, restructuring charges, and other adjustments. We will also talk about adjusted free cash flow, which excludes the cash outlay related to the restructuring costs. We continue to benefit from foreign exchange tailwinds this quarter, providing a modest uplift to our Q2 revenue while contributing over two percentage points of ARR growth, translating to a nearly $18 million increase to ARR. To provide greater transparency into our underlying business performance, we will include constant currency comparisons throughout today's call. Starting with the income statement, Q2 total revenue increased to $204.7 million, growing 18% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 17% -over-year on a constant currency basis. Professional services revenue contributed $2.7 million in the quarter, driven by strong bookings as well as several early project kickoffs and completions that led to one-time increases. Our EX business grew to over $450 million in ARR, representing growth of 24% -over-year on an as-reported basis, and 22% -over-year on a constant currency basis. As expected, growth moderated this quarter as we lapped the anniversary of the Device 42 acquisition from last June. Adjusting for this, we're encouraged by the strong underlying performance across our EX portfolio, which continues to deliver our highest area of growth. Our CX business increased to over $380 million in ARR, reflecting growth of 11% on an as-reported basis and 8% -over-year on a constant currency basis. The growth acceleration versus recent quarters was driven by healthy momentum in our fresh desk business and stronger execution across the board. Moving to margins, we maintained a strong non-GAAP gross margin in Q2 of 86%, reflecting our continued progress in scaling our business efficiently. This represents an improvement of approximately 100 basis points compared to the prior year. Our non-GAAP operating income for Q2 came in at $44.8 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 22%, which was ahead of prior expectations. This reflects strong revenue-outperformance and disciplined expense management, including lower than anticipated personnel-related costs, some of which will be shifted into future quarters. Moving to operating metrics, our two key business metrics are net dollar retention and customers contributing more than $5,000 in ARR. While growth expansion trends remain pressured, we're encouraged by the steady improvements in our overall turn rate. Net dollar retention came in stronger than expected at 106% on an as-reported basis and was in line with our expectations on a constant currency basis at 104%. Retention was modestly affected by Device 42, primarily due to churn in its partner business that we had anticipated following our acquisition last year. As expected, this represented a headwind to net dollar retention of just over two-thirds of a percentage point. We expect Device 42 retention to improve gradually as we continue to integrate the Device 42 products with our ITSM offering. Looking ahead, we estimate net dollar retention of approximately 105% on an as-reported basis and 104% on a constant currency basis for Q3. For our second key business metric, the number of customers contributing more than $5,000 in ARR as of the end of Q2, grew 10% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 9% -over-year on a constant currency basis to 23,975 customers. This customer cohort continues to represent 90% of our ARR. For our larger customer cohort contributing more than $50,000 in ARR as of the end of Q2, we saw growth of 22% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 19% on a constant currency basis to 3,460 customers. This cohort represents over 50% of our ARR. For total customers, we added over 1,300 net new customers in the quarter, which also includes contributions from our ongoing free to pay initiatives. We ended the quarter with over 74,600 customers. Now let's turn to calculated billings, balance sheet and cash items. Our calculated billings grew to $213.1 million in Q2, representing growth of 15% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 13% growth on a constant currency basis, driven primarily by stronger than expected booking performance in the quarter. Looking ahead to Q3 2025, our initial estimate for calculated billings growth is 14% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 13% on a constant currency basis. For the full year 2025, we expect calculated billings growth to be approximately 16% -over-year on an as-reported basis and 14% on a constant currency basis, the latter of which is in line with our expectations from last quarter. Moving to our cash items, we generated $54.3 million in adjusted free cash flow in Q2 without performance driven by strong collections and continued operational discipline. This resulted in an adjusted free cash flow margin of 27%, which represents over 7% point improvement -over-year. As a reminder, these results do not include a one-time use of cash of $700,000 related to restructuring costs. For the full year 2025, we are expecting to generate approximately $215 million of adjusted free cash flow with approximately $55 million in Q3 and $50 million in Q4. In Q2, we repurchased an additional 8.2 million shares at an average price of $13.89 per share. We have now repurchased nearly 15.9 million shares using over $240 million through Q2. In addition to the repurchase program, we continue to manage and offset share account dilution by net settling vested equity amounts. We use approximately $14 million during the quarter for that purpose. This activity is reflected in our financing activities and is excluded from our free cash flow calculations. Looking ahead, we will continue to net settle vested equity amounts and expect Q3 cash usage of approximately $17 million at current stock price levels. For the full year, we expect to use approximately $64 million to net settle vested equity amounts. We ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities of approximately $926 million. Turning to our share count as of June 30th, 2025, we had approximately 320 million fully diluted shares, which represents a decline of 2% year over year. The fully diluted calculation includes 292 million basic shares outstanding, which represents a reduction compared to both the prior year and quarter. It also includes 25 million shares related to invested RRCEs and PRRCEs, and 2 million shares related to outstanding options. We expect to thoughtfully manage share account dilution with net settlement activities and share repurchases into the future. Now onto our forward-looking estimates. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $207 million to $210 million, growing 11% to 12% year over year on an as-reported and constant currency basis. Non-GAAP income from operations to be in the range of $31.2 million to $33.2 million, and non-GAAP net income per share to be in the range of 12 cents to 14 cents, assuming weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 294.2 million shares. For the full year 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $822.9 million to $828.9 million, growing 14% to 15% year over year. Adjusting for constant currency using FX rates from Q3 of last year, this reflects growth of 14% to 16% year over year. Non-GAAP income from operations to be in the range of $153 million to $157 million, and non-GAAP net income per share to be in the range of $56.0 to $58.0, assuming weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 296.9 million. Our financial outlook is based on a few assumptions that we would like to call out. First, our forward-looking estimates are based on FX rates as of July 25th, 2025, and do not take into account any benefit from currency moves, which we estimate could be $1.5 to $2.5 million increase to our full year 2025 revenue. In addition, we expect spending to increase in the second half of the year, driven by the timing of certain personnel and brand-related expenses, along with incremental investments in sales and marketing to capture the growth opportunities ahead, all while remaining focused on driving operational efficiencies in the business. This increase is reflected in our financial outlook. In closing, we are pleased with our strong Q2 execution, which reflects the strength of our business, the growing demand for our products, and the incredible dedication of our global team. We are excited about the opportunities ahead as we continue to innovate, delight our customers, and deliver sustainable, profitable growth. We also look forward to sharing more about our long-term vision and strategic priorities at our Investor Day, which will be held in San Francisco on September 11th. We will send out more details regarding the event in the coming days. Thank you for continued support, and we look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. With that, let us take your questions. Operator?

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of David Hines with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Hey, thank you, guys. Congrats on the quarter. I don't know if this is a better question for Dennis or Tyler, but specifically with AI agent, right, you're selling session packs. From a forecasting perspective, I'm sure you have to make some assumptions around the pace at which those are consumed and presumably re-upped. What does that consumption look like relative to your expectations? Is it happening as expected, faster than you thought, slower? Any color there would be interesting.

Yeah, so thanks for the question. Overall, AI is pacing at or slightly ahead of what our internal expectations have been. On AI agent, remember, we introduced an agentic platform just in June, so it's pretty early days for that product. The AI agent that we've had previously is more of a question and answer product that does not take action on behalf of the user. We're seeing good traction with all the AI products we announced in June. We've got hundreds of customers that are in the early access programs for products like AI Insights and so forth. So I think we'll get better fidelity on the AI agent product as the second half of the year rolls through. On co-pilot, we've got a pretty solid motion. That's been the product that is now attached to over 55% of our larger deals. That's the product that is of interest to pretty much all of our customers. Customers are really ready to adopt co-pilot. It takes some of them a little bit longer to be willing to hand off an interaction with an employee or an end customer to an AI agent. So co-pilot, I think we've got a really good read on, and I think it's going to take a little bit more time for us to get that same read on the agentic product.

Yeah, makes sense. And then Tyler, if I could ask you one on Q3 guidance. So it's 12% growth at the high end. If I do the math, CX is 46% of the business, growing steadily, kind of 7%, 8%. That gives you like three and a half points of growth, right? So the balance comes from EX. If my math is right, it gets a 12% growth in Q3. It implies about 16% growth in EX in Q3, which that seems lower than I would have expected. It's, you know, I think six points lower than what you just reported. Am I missing something? Is that math correct? So just being conservative, any color there would be helpful.

Yeah, we haven't broken out the exact revenue impacts of each product, right? We're kind of given our greater than ARR numbers, TJ. And then there's other components to revenue in there, right? We have some usage components, we have professional services that are in there a little bit. We also have a revenue reserve that we take every single quarter. And so, you know, the growth rate that we're seeing for EX, you know, is strong, right? And the growth rates of the ARR, the greater the ARR numbers, we can kind of use those. And so I wouldn't try to round out too much from it. In general, everything is kind of going according to our plan. We did anniversary of the Device 42 acquisition, and that, you know, has a different compare now. But we've been talking about that and kind of preparing the market for that for the last six months.

Right. So you feel like the EX business is a durable 20% grower for now?

We think the EX is going really well. And we view like that there's a ton of potential upside even there. We are very encouraged with Device 42 and how it's going. And the whole thesis of that purchase is playing out kind of as we planned. We obviously have our Freddie AI products and upsells to EX, as well as our ESM business team products. And then the market for EX, we're just continuing to see larger and larger customers come to us trying to switch off of legacy players. And we're just going to continue to execute there.

Thank you. As a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Berg with Needham & Company. Your line is now open.

Hi, everyone. Really nice quarter here, I guess, for my one question.

Tannis, in your prescriptive remarks, you talked about how your new global partner program contributed. I believe it was over one third of ARR in the second quarter. I guess it's still early in that program. You talked about signing another SI with, I guess, a higher ad in government focus there. But how do we think about the right long term contribution of that partner channel in general for you? Are you seeing the best strength out of the EX side or maybe the CX side? And then anything different in terms like deal size or composition of those deals coming out of those partner related transactions we should be aware of? Thank you.

Yeah, sure. So we've had our network of partners continues to expand. We added over 130 new partners to the ecosystem in the first half of the year. And as you mentioned, about a third of our bookings are impacted in some way, shape or form by partners. It's pretty equally distributed across CX and EX. What I'm expecting is as we move into these larger partners like Unisys, like this new one that we just signed, we are seeing that the pipeline that they're able to generate tend to be larger deals, tend to be more mature companies with a lot greater expansion opportunity over time. But at the same time, it's still pretty early. We signed the Unisys deal in Q1. We've seen some really promising results there. And then we just signed our second real GSI. And that is going to be focused on the UK market to start with this past quarter. So I think if I look longer term, we would expect a greater percentage of our business is touched by partners for certain over the course of the next couple of years.

Helpful. Thanks and congrats again.

Our next question comes from the line of Brent Bill with Jeffries. Your line is now open.

Hi, this is Ria Naidoo on for Brent Bill. Thank you for taking the question. Regarding Ian, officially stepping in as the new hero, just wondering how much change is left in sales or going forward and how the new team is settling in as well?

Sure. So just as a reminder, we have two revenue leaders. Mika Yamamoto leads the SMB commercial business, which is an inbound business and service entirely out of India and through partners. And then Ian leads our field business, which is focused on eight countries around the world. He also has the partner side of things as well. Ian was our head of international and had done a really good job over the course of the last year. He's got a long history in enterprise sales. He was at Domo prior to joining us. He was a CRO there. And he stepped into the role in April and partway through the quarter, we decided to make change from an interim status to permanent status. And I think the results really speak for themselves. We did really well in our field sales team in Q2. All of our regions succeeded their internal targets. Obviously, shows up in the numbers. So pretty happy with how he's been driving things. He's been able to build his bench. He just brought on a new leader for Europe. He brought in a new leader for sales engineering overall. And we're pretty happy with where we're headed there. I don't anticipate major changes going forward.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Walravans with Citizens Bank. Your line is now open.

Oh, great. Thank you. I don't think we've really hit on the macro yet, Dennis. So this time last quarter, we were all really worried about international exposure and tariffs and uncertainty and decision making. What did you see in your customer conversations? And if you could maybe comment on how this month has gone too, that would be really helpful.

Look, overall, we saw really strong demand across the board. I think there's a couple of things going on. First of all, we start from a really diversified base with a little less than half our revenue in North America, a little over half international. There's no specific industry that's overrepresented in our portfolio. So we don't have big exposure to industries that are particularly hit by tariffs. And the software that we're providing for customer support and IT teams, it's must have software. Every team, every company in the world needs to automate those operations, needs to bring AI into those operations, become more efficient, more effective, or drive growth faster. So we really have not seen, it's been a really good first half of the year for us. And if I look at kind of what the pipeline looks like, what the second half looks like, you see it in the guide, we're pretty bullish on where the business is going to go and being able to continue that momentum.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Elizabeth Porter with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Great. I wanted to come back to the AI copilot and agent's revenue, 20 million ARR. I think it's impressive just given how recently many of these solutions have gone GA. So curious if you're thinking about any stakes in the ground for how ARR revolves through the year or next, just especially as the agent capabilities expand. And when we think about this incremental kind of ARR, is it kind of truly incremental or do we think about any puts and takes on the core side of the business? Thank you.

Yeah. So on AI, while we have 5,000 paying customers for those two SKUs, we have 73,000 customers. So it's still pretty early in the overall adoption of AI by our customer base. And we're continuing to add well over a thousand of those customers every quarter that are paying for those two SKUs. Remember, we have AI in other parts of our product. So if you buy the enterprise plan for EX, you have access to AI insights and you also have access to AI agents for EX, but you have to buy the enterprise plan, which is priced higher. So there are different ways that we're monetizing over on CX where the volume's greater, we monetize based on usage for that AI agent. Now for the new agent agents that we just released into early access, we've not settled on the final pricing for them. So they're in early access now, we'll be pricing them out later in the fall. And most likely those will be based on something along the lines of resolution. And we'll look at competitive pricing there to see where that lands out. But that is something that we're going to watch closely. I think that's a big catalyst for growth, especially on that CX side where we are going to be and we see this already in the early access program, affecting labor directly. And you simply don't need as many people answering questions as you had before when you're relying on an AI agent that can take actions on behalf of the company. So that we think is going to be a big catalyst for growth, mostly in the course of 2026, as we move out of EA sometime later this year, as we settle on a final pricing there.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Alex Zucan with Wolf Research. Your line is now open.

Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Maybe, I guess to Elizabeth's question, is the thought process that sometime in 2026 we're going to start to see AI become a growth catalyst for the business where it's driving higher ASPs, it's driving higher NRRs, where that trajectory kind of inflects. Is that the right way to think about the business from here?

So I think that there's multiple levers of growth in the business. And if we just look at the EX side to start with. So first there's the share growth that we're seeing and we're seeing every quarter more and more of these large customers like Seagate, like Steel Dynamics, like Michael's and Qualis on a bunch of customers moving over from it could be Atlassian or Service Now or some of the older players. So that's one driver. A second driver is ESM. So ESM, we think has the potential to be a really large business for us. We launched a deeper workflow for onboarding and offboarding into EA this past quarter. We're seeing good traction of that in the to help them handle the mundane tasks of onboarding and offboarding their people. The third or the next growth driver really is Device 42. And Device 42, we beat our expectations this past quarter. We're right on track for the business plan that we laid out when we acquired the company. And that continues to be a big driver in larger and larger deals, both winning new deals and then selling into our base. And then you have AI. So we'll talk about this at Investor Day, but between ESM, AI and Device 42, they all could easily be $100 million ARR business for us relatively quickly. And those are the big growth levers on that side of the business that we're driving. AI also positively affects the CX business as well. And there, a lot of our effort from a product standpoint in terms of driving growth is consolidating functionality into fresh desk, especially the conversational capability that previously it was in other products. So we have a single product that any customer can use. It's easier to sell, easier to consume, easier to buy. And then over time, easier to upgrade. So I think we've got multiple paths to growth. AI is certainly an important part of it, but there's a lot more than just AI.

Got it. And then Tyler, maybe for you on the billing side, was there any kind of pull-ins or push-outs from last quarter that may be worthwhile to fall out? Clearly strong kind of constant currency billings throughout the quarter, but you're also guiding for that kind of be stable for the second half of the year on tougher comps. I just wanted to make sure I understood where the confidence is coming from.

Yeah, I mean, we usually do a kind of a much deeper reconciliation. We kind of had 1% pull-in, which wasn't super significant. We have pull-ins every single quarter, so there wasn't anything that we felt like we had to call out that was a big reconciling item. We're actually really pleased with how we did in the quarter. And from the guide, you can see when we're looking at for the back half, we actually expect to continue to do well.

Thanks, guys.

Our next question comes from the line of Rob Oliver with Baird. Your line is now open.

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Our next question comes from the line of Brian Schwartz with Oppenheimer & Company. Your line is now open.

Yeah. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Tyler, wanted to ask you about NRR trends. Your guidance clearly, you're not ready to call a bottom, but that is a lagging metric. I was wondering if you could shed light on what you're seeing in terms of in-period NRR in comparison to that metric. Thanks.

Yeah, thanks, Brian. So, yeah, and that's all the retention. We had come into the quarter saying it was going to be 104. We came in at 104. It was 106 as reported. The Device 42 business actually had, let's call it a negative impact on that dollar retention. It's one we expected, right? When we bought it, the company, we talked about how we expected some churn to be out of their existing base because they're with competitors. We did see some of that. And so about two-thirds of a point pressure on that dollar retention. We're calling 104 for Q3 on the constant currency basis. And it's really, again, you're right. It's a look back. We look at the prior ARR base from a year ago and kind of look at the activity. The expansion motion, we had really good expansion in Q2. So that was very positive for us. And we still continue to do well on churn, making kind of subtle progress. But we've been doing well on churn for a while now. And we're very kind of optimistic on continuing to make progress there. So in general, it happened just as expected. There's no big surprises on that dollar retention.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Brent Braceland with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Tyler, second consecutive quarter that FreshWorks has maintained a rule of 40 model on an organic basis. Guidance implies that won't be the case in the second half. Can you just maybe frame what is the appetite and maybe longer term kind of goal to drive efficient growth and maybe drive a sustainable return to rule of 40? And then Dennis, if you could just remind us on the AI opportunity, triple digit growth here, 2% of ARR. But I think you did mention larger deals, you're seeing like a 25% attach rate, pretty big delta there, 2% versus 55%. So what's the line of sight to sustaining the triple digit growth in that AI business? I know small, but certainly growing very fast.

Yeah, I can take the first part. We're really pleased with how we've been doing on the efficiency perspective, you know, specifically on free cash flow. We talked that we are going to make some investments in the back half of the year, but those investments are all taken into account. From a free cash flow perspective, we kind of called out, you know, what we expect Q3 and Q4 to be in for the full year, which is, you know, well above what we did kind of coming into the year. In fact, I think it's $12 million more for the full year than what we said we're going to do coming into the year. This is a growth business, and we've always said that we want to make sure that we are not sacrificing bottom line for growth. And as we look in front of us, you know, there's investments we want to make on the -to-market side. All of those investments are taken into account in our guidance, but there were some that was timing and others that we're going to lean into. But in general, we're very pleased with how we're doing kind of on the balance of growth and free cash flow, and we will lean into growth where we have the opportunities.

Yeah, so on AI, just to clarify, these I'm not sure that came through, our attach rate for large deals for copilot was over 55%, and that's up from the prior quarter. So the AI opportunity is huge. I mean, we have, well, we've had quite a bit of success in going from GA with copilot just in Q1 of last year to where we are now. We have 5,000 customers paying for the two AI SKUs that we monetize, but we've got 73,000 customers. So there's a very long way to go. And we do believe that every one of our customers should be using AI in both the IT space and the CX space, and our customers are starting to kind of come around to that point of view as well. So that's a very big opportunity. That's a multi-year opportunity to sustain growth for AI, and that's just those two SKUs that we're monetizing today. We also indirectly monetize through inclusion of AI functionality, like AI insights, into the higher paid plans, like enterprise on the EX side. So there's a long way to go. We're just getting started with agentic, just releasing our first true agentic capabilities into EA in June. That's another lever of growth. That pricing model will be slightly different than our current AI agent without actions. We'll be pricing closer to what you see some of our competitors pricing for their products. And that could be a meaningful driver for us because for our customers, they're going to be able to take costs out. We're going to share a fraction of that cost reduction. They can redeploy people to do other things than answer road questions or take road actions. And that we think is a big driver for us as well. So more to come there, but we're pretty optimistic about how we're going to be able to continuously monetize AI over the course of the next several years.

Helpful color. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Rob Oliver with Baird. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks, guys. Sorry about that. My question is on device 42. Dennis, you talked about some of the strengths there. And I was wondering if you could give us a sense for, you know, particularly with those larger deals where it sounds like it's impactful, like what kind of uplift you guys are seeing in the device 42 product relative to core EX. And then could you just remind us as to, and I'm sure we'll get more on this in September, but as to kind of what the timeline is relative to both full product integration and, you know, business model integration transition as well. Thank you.

Yeah. So thanks, Rob. I'll start with the second part of the question. So the timeline that we're going to get is we're going to release a cloud version of device 42 in the first quarter of 26. And that will roll out over time in phases in terms of the functionality that we embed into the first release versus, you know, where we'll be down the road. But that's when we'll get a cloud version that we can sell alongside for our service. In terms of the impact on the business at the deal level, you know, we see deals where the device 42 recurring revenue is a third of the total bill for a customer and, you know, multi hundred thousand dollar, we're doing multi hundred thousand dollar deals in that space. So it can be very meaningful if you have a business with a lot of, you know, mix of on prem and cloud assets. We price device 42 on a per asset basis and the larger your device is, the higher the bill over time. And it's worth it for the customer because they get visibility into their assets in a way that they didn't have before. It's well integrated into fresh service today. So if there are any issues, they can do root cause analysis, all that stuff. So it can be quite meaningful. We have had success in bringing device 42 into these new larger deals. So it's helping us move up market. We've also had success in selling it into our current account base. So overall, we're on track for, you know, like I said earlier, the business plan that we put together before we acquired the company. We're pretty pleased with how the whole thing is working out.

Great. Very helpful. I appreciate it. Thank you,

guys. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Peterson, who is Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question. So I just wanted to follow up on the comments on AI kind of going beyond experimentation. I'm curious, is that something you're seeing with existing customers where that's really driving the expansion or are you also seeing that with new customers? I know you referenced the 55% attach rates, but I'm curious, how are the sizes of those initial lands with AI versus your expectations? Thanks, guys.

So, yeah, we're seeing adoption across both new business and our expansion motion. And that's for both SMB and our larger accounts. SMB attach rates are in the double digit range. And for those larger deals, it's north of 55%. If you are evaluating an IT solution or a customer support solution, you are going to be evaluating AI for the most part now. And our customers typically are going to want to make the decision to build in the AI capabilities when they're making the overall decision to switch from another vendor or to move from some legacy platform. So, you know, I wouldn't say that there's any trend specifically to point to. It's not like it's a specific industry or specific size customer that's driving the adoption. It's pretty broad. And I think that, you know, we really saw the momentum in the first half of this year across both the copilot products and AI agent. And like I said, AI agent is just getting better with a true agentic capability now available.

Thanks,

guys. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Van Fleet with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.

Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. You highlighted a handful of deals that smaller CX customers were now buying EX. So curious on what changes or programs have you been putting in place for your -to-market team to improve that cross-sell into the CX base? And then kind of a separate question, can we go the other direction? Are you implementing anything to help drive more CX penetration into the larger enterprise mid-market EX customer base?

Sure. So on CX, there are really three drivers of growth over the last couple of quarters. One is just improved rigor in the sales and marketing motion in driving growth. The second is we made some product changes that encouraged customers that were on free plans to convert to paid plans. Now, these are relatively small customers, but we did have a large free user base that we changed the plans on so that we used to be able to have a fairly large number of free users on a given plan. We limited the number of users because it ought to be more of a trial, not a perpetual free product. We limited the time that they can use the product for, and that led to a bunch of conversions from free to paid plans. And then the third lever is AI, where AI is part of every discussion and is motivating conversations with us. So all that's great. On the larger account side, when we last, I think we revealed, we talked about this in the past, but about half of our top 50 accounts are using both CX and EX, roughly half. So at the large end of the space, we've got pretty good cross-sell. It's kind of the mid-tier and the long tail where we need to do a better job of driving that cross-sell over time, and that's really a program that we have ongoing. So we do think that there's opportunity there as well.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Taylor McGinnis with UBS. Your line is now open.

Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Tyler, if I look at the midpoint of the 4Q guide, it implies about a 130 basis point or so acceleration in REVS growth on a constant currency basis. So just curious, what are the drivers behind improving growth in 4Q? And then similarly, if I look at the implied operating margin guide for 4Q, it looks a bit lower than what you were previously expecting. So can you provide any additional color there and what these exit rates potentially mean for 2026? Thanks.

Sure. So on the second one on the operating margin, yeah, we brought through 12 million from our beat, but we also called out in the call that we are going to make some investments in the back half of the year. Some of it's timing. Some of it's headcount relay, things that hires that we didn't get the full quarter of expense and things like that. Some of it's some of the brand stuff that we just mentioned and in general investments in the go to market side that we think are the right thing to do because we see there's a huge opportunity. And so from an operating margin perspective, yeah, we said there's going to be a little bit of spend increase in the back half going into next year. We haven't given any kind of vision into next year, but I hope you guys can see we've been running the business very efficiently. We're going to continue to do so, but we will invest in growth on the revenue side. I mean, our, you know, our forecast for the remainder of the year reflective of everything we see right now. And we actually have had a really good Q1 and Q2. And, you know, from a pipeline perspective and expectations for Q3 and Q4, we built all of that in. And, you know, we're positive on the business right now and both on the CX and the EX side.

And just on that, just remember Q4 is our biggest quarter for EX and for field where the business is skewing more and more towards EX, towards field. And we've got some visibility into the pipeline for Q4. We certainly know where we are in this quarter. So all that's reflected in the guide and that there is a bit of acceleration from a billing standpoint in there.

Great. Thank you so much.

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