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spk04: Good day and welcome to the Fathom Holdings first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call to Alex Kovtun with Gateway Group. Please go ahead, sir.
spk06: Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone, to the Fathom Holdings 2023 first quarter conference call. I'm Alex Kovtun with Gateway Group, Fathom's investor relations firm. Before I turn things over to the Fathom management team, I want to remind listeners that today's call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are subject to numerous conditions, many of which are beyond the company's control, including those set forth in the risk factors section of the company's Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2022, as well as our latest Form 10-Q and other company filings made with the SEC, copies of which are available on the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. As a result of those forward-looking statements, Actual results could differ materially. Fathom undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements after today's call, except as required by law. Please also note that during this call, we will be discussing adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial measure as defined by SEC Regulation G. A reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is included in today's press release, which is now posted on Fathom's website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Fathom's founder, chairman, and CEO, Josh Harley. Josh?
spk05: Thanks, Alex. Good afternoon, and welcome to our first quarter 2023 earnings call. We're pleased to report a strong first quarter as compared to the overall market and what we feel is a great start to the year. I want to start by thanking our agents and employees across each of our businesses for their hard work and dedication as we navigate the real estate market. Their commitment to supporting our growth, vision, and serving others in the communities we operate is a testament to the Fathom culture, and I'm proud of them. The market's been tough for a lot of agents, but you wouldn't know it talking to some of them. Many agents I've talked to see this market as an opportunity to take greater market share by reinvesting the savings they get from being a Fathom agent into their marketing, while many other competitors are pulling back on their spend. I love to hear that because that's exactly why I started Fathom in the first place. Our agents have worked hard to continue to grow and thrive, even with all the market uncertainties, and we're proud of our recent awards and recognitions within the industry. We were recently ranked second by RealTrends 500 as an industry top mover for 2023 and ranked as the fourth largest public independent brokerage, another notable category up from sixth place last year. We're also proud to be ranked as the 10th largest brokerage in transactions in the recent T360 Mega 1000. These achievements are testament to Fathom's commitment to providing top notch service and support to our agents, and our clients and our ability to adapt and thrive in a rapidly evolving residential real estate industry. Before turning the call over Marco Fresno, our president and CFO, for a detailed review of our financial results, I'd like to touch on a few key highlights during the market, during the quarter, and what gives us confidence in our business regardless of what happens in the housing market or interest rates this year. While the first quarter is typically the slowest quarter for transactions and was a challenging quarter for residential real estate overall, we're encouraged by some recent signs of stabilization across our markets, along with the moderation in interest rates during the quarter to improve housing affordability. It's interesting to see that even in this market, 60 percent of listings are still selling within 30 days, and 28 percent are still seeing multiple offers. While we don't know where interest rates will go this year or whether we're close to the bottom in the housing market, we believe that Fathom has a long and positive runway ahead. And with the latest rate increase, the Federal Reserve signaled that they may be done raising rates, and inflation appears to be moving in the right direction. Our results this quarter continue to demonstrate the power of our truly disruptive business model and how we're able to succeed irrespective of the market environment. During the first quarter, Fathom completed approximately 8,532 real estate transactions. And while down 15.4% from prior year's first quarter, the decrease compares favorably to our peers in the entire U.S. residential real estate market. In fact, according to the National Association of Realtors, the U.S. residential real estate market saw overall transactions a quarter decline 25%. compared to Q1 of last year. So I'm sure you can see why I'll count that as a win for Fathom. As our transaction volume reflects, we continue to take market share from legacy brokerage firms despite the volatile environment and saw year-over-year transaction growth in several of our markets, including Miami, Las Vegas, the Bay Area, and even Boston. We also increased our agent network 18% to over 10,628 agents at the end of the quarter, significantly beating the domestic growth of all of our public peers but one who's reported so far. I'm proud that we're able to continue providing compelling value proposition through innovation and an industry-leading commission model that's resonating well in this market and this environment. We also made significant strides towards achieving our goal of adjusted EBITDA breakeven in Q2 and cash flow profitability in Q3 of this year. During the first quarter, we began to see the benefits from the cost reduction measures we've implemented and expect to see the full benefit of these actions in Q2. We're also continuing to identify opportunities to further right-size our cost structure for the current environment and better position Fathom for improved operating leverage as the residential real estate market returns. Importantly, we believe these cost reductions were made without sacrificing our ability to grow. And in fact, we have allocated some of those savings to further strengthen our recruitment efforts. These cost reduction initiatives, combined with the increase in agent transaction fees that became effective in January of this year, have positioned our business for profitable growth ahead. Southern Realty continues to be among the fastest growing residential real estate brokerages in the U.S., and we're proud of our growth as we expand our reach nationwide. Today, Fathom Realty operates in 37 states and the District of Columbia. Fathom brings a unique model to the residential real estate market as we offer agents all the tools, the technology, training, and resources our larger traditional peers do. But at an industry-leading flat fee commission split agents, more than ever, That remains a key point of differentiation during this period of high inflation and interest rates when agents across the industry struggle to generate leads and close sales. With our focus on servant leadership, our agents often say that they join Fathom for the higher income potential, but they stay for the culture. Our unique low-cost and disruptive model has allowed Fathom to attract high-quality agents and enjoy agent retention rates approximately twice the national average. Even though we charge our agents a small fraction of what other brokerages charge their agents, we believe our realty business can be profitable with smaller number of transactions. The technology that powers our realty operations remains a key point of differentiation as well, as we can generate long-term savings and ultimately charge our agents far less than others by owning it outright. We also license our proprietary technology to over 750 brokerages through a recurring revenue subscription model that drives incremental high-margin revenue while enhancing awareness and differentiation of a brand within the industry. I'd like to provide an update of our agent trends and the steps we're taking to grow the Fathom network. Our cost to acquire one agent during Q1 remained low at approximately $900, making our break even on each agent less than the $1,150 that we'll earn back on their first sale. We also maintain strong retention rates, which are approximately twice the national average and remain exceptionally strong given the backdrop of agents leaving the industry. More importantly, 71% of agents who left Fathom sold zero or only one home per year. And based on historic trends, we anticipate only an additional attrition in the coming year will continue to be primarily from low-producing agents. We recently launched an enhanced agent referral program called Free for Life and a revised agent commission structure. Both initiatives have been well received, and our agent referral program continues to have a positive impact on our recruiting efforts. In fact, this March brought us our strongest growth through agent referrals in our company's history. We remain confident that Fathom is well positioned to achieve EBITDA break-even next quarter. As we mentioned, On our last call, we believe 2023 will be a pivotal year for Fathom as we turn the corner on profitability and really start to show the operating leverage in our business. Plus, our ancillary businesses have the potential to dramatically increase our revenue and profitability per transaction over time, and we'll continue to see progress across those businesses, giving us increased confidence in our growth strategy. During the first quarter, we also saw improved attach rates within our title and mortgage businesses as we continue to go deeper in the markets where we operate. And we recently expanded our title operations in Utah. To close, we remain optimistic about the year ahead and believe that we're well positioned to continue growing our business in 2023. With that, I'd like to pass it over to Marco for our financial update.
spk03: Thank you, Josh. I'll start with a detailed review of our first quarter 2023 results and we'll finish with the discussion on guidance. First quarter revenue declined 14% year-over-year to $77.5 million compared with $90.1 million for last year's first quarter. Gap net loss for the first quarter was $5.7 million or a loss of $0.36 per share compared with a loss of $6 million or a loss of $0.37 per share for the 2022 first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA loss and non-GAAP measure was 1.4 million in the first quarter versus adjusted EBITDA loss of 2.1 million for the first quarter of 2022. The $700,000 improvement in adjusted EBITDA this quarter was largely driven by a reduction in expenses and additional agent fees that went into effect in January. Notably, this improvement was achieved despite the 14% decrease in revenue this quarter compared to Q1 of 2022. G&A expense was 9.6 million in the first quarter or 12.4% of revenue compared with 10.9 million or 12% of revenue for the same period a year ago. Again, to be noted that G&A did not meaningfully increase the percentage of revenue despite the 14% decrease in revenue. In total, our operations and support technology and development, and G&A expenses decreased by almost $2 million from $14.5 million in Q1 of 2022 to $12.5 million in Q1 of 2023. This reduction reflects the benefits of our expense reduction initiative that commenced last quarter. Expense related to marketing activities were $716,000 for the first quarter compared to $1.2 million for last year's first quarter. The decrease in marketing expenses is related to leveraging internal resources and optimizing advertising expenditures. Now I'll spend some time reviewing where our business segment results in more detail. We closed 8,532 real estate transactions in the quarter, a 15.4% decrease from last year's first quarter, but well below the 25% reduction in the overall market experience. We ended Q1 with 10,628 agents, which represents an 18% growth over Q1 of 2022. Adjusted EBITDA in the real estate individuals approximately 1.3 million, an increase of $400,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA of 900,000 in Q1 of 2022. This increase was achieved despite the 15% decrease in transactions this quarter compared to the same quarter last year and reflects an increase in fees and favorable impact of cost-cutting measures. Our mortgage business generated revenues of $1.5 million in the first quarter compared to $2.9 million in prior year period. Mortgage adjusted EBITDA for Q1 was a negative $600,000. Our team continues to identify opportunities to reduce expenses to right size of mortgage business going forward, as well as increase revenues by increasing additional loan officers. DIA, our insurance business, generated revenues of $1.6 million for the quarter compared to revenues of $1.4 million for the same period a year ago. This represents an increase of 7.5%. Adjusted EBITDA increased 265% from $100,000 in Q1 of 2022 to $391,000 in Q1 of 2023. This reflects the great work our DIA team has done in Q1 to adjust expenses while still growing revenues. Barrett's title had revenues of $596,000 for the quarter compared to $1.1 million in revenue for Q1 of 2022. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $330,000 compared to a $50,000 positive adjusted EBITDA in Q1 of 2022. The decrease in revenue in adjusted EBITDA is primarily due to the significant decrease in purchase and the refi business due to higher interest rates. However, in March and April, we have seen a significant increase in the number of file starts from FADM agents in the North Carolina and Dallas markets, which should represent an increase in the tax rate in Q2. Now let's move on to our technology segment. Revenues increased 17% to $756,000 compared to $645,000 for last year's first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter decreased by 46% from $395,000 in the first quarter of last year to 212,000 in the current quarter. Our Live By team continues to increase its footprint across the country to reach over 235 MLSs and 400,000 agents at the end of the quarter. Live By powers more than 3.6 million community pages with over 125,000 neighborhood reports created. We continue to focus on our balance sheet given dynamic real estate market conditions and end of the quarter with a cash position of 6.7 million. We recently completed a convertible no private placement to provide additional operating liquidity and flexibility as we execute our goal of getting to break even. We believe our cash position and additional private placement provides us with the adequate runaway to grow the business and execute our strategy through profitability. We did not purchase any shares in the first quarter under the stock repurchase plan, and approximately $40 million remain under that authorization. Now, before turning the call back to Josh, let me briefly touch on guidance. Given the continuing uncertainty in the microenvironment, we are only providing guidance for the second quarter ending on June 30, 2023. For the second quarter, we expect revenues in the range of $88 million to $90 million and adjusted EBITDA in the range of break-even to 100,000 to 200,000 positive. As a reminder, guidance is a forward-looking, which as we noted in the beginning of the call, is subject to risks and uncertainties. I want to thank the entire team at Fathom for their hard work, passion, and commitment to excellence. The last six months have been some of the most difficult months in Fathom's history, but through the hard work of our team, we have been able to demonstrate that we can outperform the market even in challenging economic times. With that, I'll turn the call back to Josh for closing remarks.
spk05: Thank you, Marco. Thank you. We remain focused on execution and are well-positioned to achieve a break-even profitability in Q2 with our model and can thrive throughout various real estate cycles. With that, operator, let's open up the call for questions.
spk04: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question will come from John Campbell with Stevens Inc. You may now go ahead.
spk00: Hey, this is AJ Hayes stepping in for John Campbell. Congrats on the quarter and I appreciate you guys taking our questions. First thing, on your guys' EBITDA inflection, just kind of wanted to see, like, is there any additional steps needed to get there? How dependent on the market is this outlook? How dependent is that on kind of your outlook for the market in your brokerage business? How dependent is it on a recovery in mortgage and better attach rates and maybe mortgage gain on sale? Just trying to get a sense of what assumptions, underlying assumptions may be built into this outlook here.
spk03: Thank you. Thank you for your question. As we are today on May 10th, we have a good feel for the quarter. So that's the first and foremost. We are definitely seeing an improvement in file starts in Q2 compared to Q1. There are two components of that. First is certainly seasonality. And second, I think Josh mentioned earlier that many of the Fathom agents are using their savings that they get from Fathom and they invest in marketing. So We are anticipating an increase in revenue and transactions. In terms of the cost structure, I believe about 85 to 90% of our 3 million has been already, it's already built in into Q1 numbers, so there's a little bit more in Q2. So I think the overall answer to your question is that we feel pretty good about the guidance we're giving And we're not assuming a significant increase in the market. If the market does continue to increase even in a greater way than we were anticipating, I think then our numbers could be even better. But we feel fairly confident about the guidance we're giving, given what the market conditions are today.
spk00: Gotcha. And then maybe shifting the focus kind of to hitting positive cash flow in 3Q23, you guys reiterated that target again, which is is great to hear, but given the uptake in interest expense as a result of that new convert, can you kind of walk us through the moving pieces there? Did you change your underlying assumptions needed to hit this target, you know, such as the macro, the existing home sales, maybe mortgage gain on sale? And this might be much of the same as kind of what you answered in the last question, but maybe trying to get a sense was there may be already a degree of conservatism or wiggle room in that inflection. Any color there would be much appreciated.
spk05: Sure. Great question. I don't have so many terms, Mark. Go ahead.
spk03: Well, I think, look, we continue to apply the same model, right, in terms of Q3. The components that lead us to, if you continue the curve of adjusted EBITDA in Q2 to the profitability in terms of our cash flow positive in terms of Q3, One aspect of that is the seasonality of the industry. Second, when we look at our ancillary businesses, all our ancillary businesses continue to grow. Even in a tough market, they continue to gain market share. DIA, for example, has done a really great job in continuing to increase its revenue, and EBITDA at 265% and EBITDA increases is a phenomenal result. So we continue – it's a combination of our ancillary business continue to gain market share and continue to grow, the combination of the full execution of our $3 million per quarter in cost reduction, and certainly the aspect of the seasonality. We are not anticipating in our numbers a significant increase in the market in terms of upside. Some have argued that the Fed may start lowering interest rates in Q3 and Q4. We are not putting that into our model. And so we are really somewhat conservative in terms of the upside, in terms of getting to the cash flow breakeven in Q3. But it's really a combination of all those factors.
spk05: I want to add some color, if I may, though. I want to make sure you understand that we didn't do that because we were worried about not being able to reach the break even or reach cashflow profitability is really just out of just being wise. You don't know what you don't know. We don't wanna be foolish. We wanna make sure that we had some additional buffer there for the just in case it sometimes happens in this world. especially in this market. So we're just trying to be prudent, trying to be thoughtful about the business. But at the same time, we have to ask ourselves, do we really want to do this? Because we feel very confident that we're going to be able to continue to achieve what we've said we've been able to achieve. So far, that hasn't changed. But again, so bringing that extra capital was really just to, I guess, add a little extra touch of wisdom in the business.
spk00: That makes sense. Thank you for the color there. One more question, if I may, and then I'll pass the mic along. But I wanted just to narrow in on the mortgage business here for a second. Josh, you had said attach rates improved in mortgage as well as title. But can you maybe provide an exact number for mortgage and maybe title or maybe just like a general kind of estimate there? And then, Marco, you may have briefly touched on this, but what was this improvement attributable to? Was it anything specific? And then also, is gain on sale, is that something that's starting to normalize in which maybe your updated outlook in terms of gain on sale?
spk05: I think the first part of the question is directed at me. As far as attach rate goes, we haven't shared the attach rate and what the exact numbers are attach rate, you know, other than the fact that we're seeing improvements. You know, I feel strongly that we probably need to keep it that way for right now. I know none of our peers actually share those specific numbers either. I think there's, I start to realize there's a reason for that, you know, things kind of ebb and flow. But, you know, we are seeing improvements. We do feel a lot better about the tax rates. We're starting to see a lot more agents, you know, really buy into and understand the fact that these are part of our Fathom family. And the more we support, you know, our ancillary services, the more we support that Fathom family, the more it benefits everybody. So, you know, while we're not prepared to give the exact attached numbers, you know, we are definitely seeing improvements.
spk03: Our improvement in the mortgage business is a combination of several factors. One, the leadership in our mortgage company continues to recruit more loan officers and continue to grow the revenue base. And I think we look forward to demonstrating that when we announce our Q2 numbers and subsequently Q3 numbers. So it's a combination of adding loan officers to the team. Second, we focused the tax rate to a certain extent. We took a more focused approach and focused our mortgage business to a certain extent in the North Carolina and in the Texas area. Therefore, giving us the ability to grow our market share into those states much deeper. That certainly has helped the tax rate. We've also uh implement a variety of pilot programs in q1 in terms of marketing programs and we'll be able to give an update of those in q2 once they're fully executed and and we'll be able to do that and then the the last part is the gain on mortgage so certainly the market has become a little more consistent and stable we go back to q3 and q4 last year it was a highly unstable market in terms of the the gain on mortgage there's plenty of data out there that shows how Mortgage companies, profitability of mortgage companies have decreased significantly in terms of what happened in Q3 and Q4. So, yes, we're definitely seeing a more stable market. Not a great market yet, certainly not compared to Q1 of last year in Q2, but it's definitely more stable. We're not seeing the ups and downs in profitability of a loan, and I think that's a good start. We're hoping that by Q2 and Q3, things continue to get even more stabilized. and easier to sort of anticipate what the market would do. But we certainly feel better today about our mortgage business than we did in Q4, and we are very hopeful that as we continue to work hard, we'll see better results in Q2 and Q3. Great.
spk00: Thank you so much, and good luck the rest of the year.
spk03: Thank you. Thank you.
spk04: Our next question will come from Darren Astahi with Roth Capital Partners. You may now go ahead.
spk01: Hey, this is Dylan for Darren. Thanks for taking the questions. If I start firstly with marketing, could you sort of talk about both the reduction in marketing spend, but then sort of the confidence you may have with referrals to sort of offset that lower spend and still grow agents?
spk03: Great question, Dylan. Great question. So the reduction in marketing is not so much focused on recruiting. It's really more focused on a variety of really optimizing our marketing machine. So we've optimized a lot of our internal resources. We've optimized on how we spend dollars in terms of our advertising campaigns. And so a combination of that, plus some shifting of dollars resulted in that decrease in market. However, we actually have increased our recruiting team. And so where the dollars look like have been decreased, which they are, we actually have increased our recruiting team. The second part of your question was the referral rate. As Josh indicated, the month of March, we had the highest internal referral rate ever in our history. And we feel confident that's going to continue as agents continue to see the benefit of our Free for Life program. And we've always said that that's going to take some time for agents to fully benefit there, right? But certainly in Q2, sorry, Q1 in March, we've seen a significant increase in that. And we anticipate that continue to maintain itself as we continue to increase the number of agents that we recruit.
spk01: Yeah, just sort of touching that. The sequential net ads and agents, sort of, how many were from referrals versus, I guess, what you could call more organic?
spk05: For March, it was 60%. For the whole quarter, Marco, do you have that number off the top of your head?
spk03: So, yeah, so we don't give the net number, Dylan, in terms of that. We can give you that on a gross number, the internal referral was 60%. on the gross number. And then when you look at the net number, keep in mind that Q1 has the highest turnover, right? Number of agents leaving the industry. Our churn rating Q1 was 2.2%, which is significantly higher than our average around 1.5, 1.6%, right? And so the two things to keep in mind, one, about 60% of our agents came from internal referrals, which is the highest we've ever seen. And second, that in Q1, we not only fathom, but the whole industry sees a significant higher turn percentage as agents leave the industry because they don't want to pay all their annual fees that they have to pay in Q1.
spk05: By the way, if you go back in time and you listen to some of our earlier, you know, especially Q1 of last year or even earlier than that, you'll see, you know, we actually spoke that about 35% of our growth was agents referring other agents. And now to see that number hit 60% is pretty exciting.
spk01: No, I appreciate the call. That's helpful. And then just to follow up for me, on the productivity side, I mean, obviously, the demand is down from lower home sales in the market. But could you sort of talk about, I guess, the type of agents you're recruiting or your existing base? Like, how are you seeing their productivity evolve over time as, like, as improving and the potential number of transactions they can handle.
spk03: So for Q1, it was fairly consistent across the board for 15%. I mean, we've seen that pretty much fairly consistent. Some states are a little higher than others, and some states are less. But that decrease in the number of transactions and the productivity was fairly consistent across. So when you compare that against The other public companies, I think you see that our decrease in percentage was about half of what everyone's seen. What we've seen in the market is fairly consistent, around 25%. Again, some states in the West Coast are seeing a higher percentage, and some states in the East Coast are seeing a lower percentage. But across the board, it's 25%. Across our agents, it's fairly consistent on the 15%.
spk01: Great. I'll pass it on. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you, Dylan.
spk04: Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. Our next question will come from Tom White with DA Davidson. You may now go ahead.
spk02: Hey, this is Wyatt Swanson on for Tom. Thanks for taking our questions. I've just got a quick one here more on the longer term regarding the 80 value proposition. You know, if you look two to three years out, what do you think are the most likely areas that are likely to see some meaningful evolution or improvement in terms of the ways for you guys to add value to agents?
spk05: I think it really comes down to probably better training. You think about, number one, obviously, how do we add more agents? And then once we add those agents, how do we help them improve their productivity per agent? One of the things we've said in the past is the average agent who joins Fathom increases the business by 49%. over a four-year period. So that happens naturally, just simply the fact that you've got more money to be able to reinvest back in the business. A lot of agents will pocket the money and, you know, pay bills with it or feed the family or, you know, take vacations. But a lot of agents, you know, they run businesses, right, and they reinvest that money back into their business. So that just happens naturally. But one area that I think we can see great improvement, and we've been exploring this more, is increased training, increased coaching for individual agents to say, okay, You have the savings, now what? You know, not everyone knows where to spend that money. Can we help coach them and show them how and where? Can we help train them to be better at their job, you know, be better at their craft? And so I think that's an area that we can dramatically improve, you know, inside our own house. And I think that will dramatically improve the productivity per agent. So, obviously, we want to increase transactions by increasing agents, but we also want to increase transactions by making our agents better. And then the third way, of course, is by offering even more solutions, more training, more resources to our agents, we should also be able to attract higher producing agents. So I think there's three really strong ways that we can do to be able to increase the number of transactions per agent.
spk02: Great. Thank you very much.
spk04: Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the call to Josh Harley for any closing remarks.
spk05: Thank you. Of course, thank you for joining our call today and your interest in Fathom. For those of you who are Fathom shareholders, thank you for your trust. We will continue to work hard and look forward to sharing future updates with you. Have a wonderful week.
spk04: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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