8/6/2025

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fortria Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Hima Nguva, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

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Hima Nguva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Good morning and thank you for joining Fortria Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I am Hima Nguva, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development in Fortria. Before we begin, I want to share that this will be my last call leading Fortria's Earnings Call as I've decided to leave the company to pursue other opportunities. I'm incredibly proud of what we've built here and deeply grateful for the support of our investors, the commitment of our teams, and the opportunity to work alongside such a high caliber team. We have a robust transition plan for investor relations. It's my pleasure to introduce Tracy Krumme, a new head of IR who will be joining the call. Welcome Tracy. I'd also like to welcome our new CEO, Anshul Tukral, who joined Fortria on Monday. Anshul, we're excited to have you here. With all that said, I'm pleased to introduce our Chairman, Peter Newport, who served as our interim CEO in the second quarter, and CFO, Jill McConnell, as our speakers of the call today. The call is being broadcasted and the slides accompanying today's presentations have been posted to the investor relations page of our website, Fortria.com. During this call, we'll make certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We strongly encourage you to review the reports we filed with the SEC regarding these risks and uncertainties. In particular, those that are described in the cautionary statement concerning forward-looking statements and risk factors in our press release and presentation that we posted on the website. Please note that any forward-looking statements represent our views as of today, August 6, 2025, and that we assume no obligation to update the forward-looking statements even if estimates change. During this call, we'll also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not superior to or replacement for the comparable GAAP measures, but we believe these measures help investors gain a more complete understanding of results. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures is a key factor in the development of our are more likely to be used to the most directly comparable GAAP measures available in the earnings press release and earnings call presentation slides provided in connection with today's call. With that, I'd like to turn it over to our chairman, Peter Newpert. Peter.

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Peter Newport
Chairman and Interim CEO

Thank you, Hema, and good morning, everyone. I'll add my welcome to Anshul and Tracy today. We're very pleased to have you both on board and hitting the ground running. Now let's turn to the second quarter, which showed another solid quarter of delivery. For TRIA revenue for the second quarter was $710.3 million, with adjusted EBITDA of $54.9 million, supported by our continued progress against the company's margin optimization initiative. The team continues to make progress with its transformation efforts, including reshaping the organization to align with its evolving pipeline mix and customer needs. Backlog as of June 30, 2025 stood at $7.5 billion, and the -to-bill ratio for the quarter was 0.79x, resulting in a 1.1 times -to-bill for the trailing 12 months. While for TRIA did not achieve the level of net new business wins we would have wanted, there are positive signals in the quarter. The volume of RFP opportunities remains high, and cancellations continued to be in line with our historical trends, although the company experienced some customer hesitancy in the quarter, primarily in -to-for TRIA biotech customers as the team navigated the CEO leadership transition. Win rates remain consistent for existing large pharma and biotech customers, but decline for -to-for TRIA biotech customers. For TRIA experienced a similar phenomenon prior to the spin, and then saw that in a reasonably brief period of time, it was able to return to solid net new business wins with new customers once they saw that the focus on delivery remained strong, and for TRIA's leaders and employees were committed to their best interests. Other highlights from the second quarter include positive cash flow as expected, the company's liquidity is sound, and its capital structure is balanced. Further, for TRIA provided updated guidance for the remainder of the year, increasing the revenue range, and re-infirming its EBITDA range. For TRIA's business fundamentals are steadily improving as demonstrated in this quarter's performance. This progress reflects its strengthened operational delivery and position. For TRIA's leading clinical pharmacology services reporting unit is in high demand, with a combination of leading science and robust delivery. For example, the team delivered a bioequivalence trial ahead of schedule, from first subject in to database lock for more than 500 participants in exactly one year, earlier than expected. The trial will enable regulatory submission for oral formulations of life changes changing therapeutic that is currently only available in injectable form. In later phase clinical projects, second quarter delivery also was strong. The team had a flawless track record, and by that I mean early on time, in its delivery of site initiation visits, as well as patient enrollment at the halfway mark of the study. Similarly, the metrics for ready to enroll sites and last patient in, were all better than our benchmark targets. In an environment of global complex studies, this level of operational performance stands out, and is reflected in our strong customer NPS scores. The company continues to invest in innovation and in its people. The second quarter saw the introduction of three new modules in the award-winning Accelerate software platform. One example, RiskRadar is an AI powered agent designed to enhance risk-based quality management in clinical trials. It uses AI machine learning to automate risk identification and suggest mitigation strategies. RiskRadar reduces manual effort, improves operational efficiency, and strengthens patient safety protection. I'll wrap up my prepared remarks by thanking Fortria employees for their commitment and hard work over the quarter. I've seen this organization evolve over many years now in my role on the board. Over the past few months, I've gained a unique perspective serving as its interim CEO. I can tell you that this team is not only dedicated to advancing research, but it's also remarkably resilient. They have definitely navigated a challenging journey to independence by staying focused on what matters most. Motivated by a shared mission to bring new treatments to patients faster. Supported by a seasoned and collaborative leadership team of industry veterans, they are forward-facing and looking to the future with optimism. I'm very pleased to have Anshul joining the team as CEO this week. Let me just say a few words about Anshul. He brings deep experience in life sciences, knows the CRO industry from the inside out, not only as an executive, but also as a customer. He also has a proven record of building companies and delivering profitable growth. Anshul is an outstanding and hands-on leader, and I know the entire board joins me in welcoming him to Fortria. Anshul, now that you've been here for full 48 hours, would you like to make any comments before we hand the call over to Jill?

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Peter, thank you for that introduction. I'm very appreciative of the warm welcome from the board and from the Fortria team. While I've only served as CEO for a couple of days, I've already had some opportunities to speak with executives in the pharma and biotech industries, whom I've worked with for many years. In the near term, I will be focusing my time on engaging both our customers and colleagues around the world. For the past few years, I have been on the customer side of our industry, and a consumer of CRO services. That, coupled with my time as an executive at PPD, I hope to bring a fresh perspective and energy to help drive our ambitions at Fortria. The fundamental value proposition for CROs remains solid, even as marketing conditions have been a headwind for the industry in the recent past. For me, it's exciting to see how scientific and technological innovation is shaping the future of clinical development. Having delivered growth in this environment in my past career, I know what it takes for us to be successful. Having spoken with current Fortria customers, both large pharma and biotech, I know they are pleased with how we deliver for them. My role will be to add fuel to our growth engine, bringing energy and discipline in a way that will yield value for our customers, our people, our investors, and ultimately, and most importantly, for patients. I'm ready for this opportunity. I too want to thank Hima for all her efforts at Fortria over the past few years. Additionally, I'd like to welcome Tracy to the team. Tracy, I look forward to working with you once again. But for now, let's return the call to the second quarter results and hand it over to Jill for a deeper dive. Jill, back over to you.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Anshul, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. As a reminder, all my remarks relate to continuing operations of Fortria following the divestiture of our enabling services businesses last year, unless I note otherwise. I will start by saying that I warmly welcome Anshul and Tracy to Fortria and look forward to working with them to demonstrate the excellence I know this organization can achieve. I also want to thank Hima for her many contributions as we launched Fortria as a standalone company. As we put the two-year spin transition firmly behind us, we welcome this next period as a time to take the grit and resilience we've built from the separation efforts and apply it fully towards enabling our customers to develop their life-changing treatments and make them a reality for patients around the globe. It is time. In my prepared remarks, I'll cover the primary factors that influence our second quarter performance and share an update on the steps we're taking toward achieving our 2025 guidance. I'll highlight our progress against our previously shared cost optimization initiatives. Additionally, I'll spend a few minutes highlighting improvements in our cash flow this quarter and our expectations regarding liquidity going forward. By the end of this call, I want it to be clear that we are continuing to take appropriate actions to improve our financial performance and capital profile. As Peter highlighted, we delivered a solid second quarter as demonstrated in our financial results. For the quarter, we delivered revenue growth along with sequentially higher adjusted EBITDA following continued execution of our margin optimization initiative, including delivering one third of our $150 million in gross savings targets in the first half. As expected, we generated positive operating and free cash flow, and we delivered a five-day improvement in DSO versus the first quarter as we began to unwind the temporary impact of the invoicing pause related to the implementation of our new ERP system during the first quarter. These results reflect focused execution across the organization and continued momentum toward our financial goals. This quarter marked the two-year anniversary of our SPIN along with successful exit from our former parents, TSA. This milestone is reflected in the -over-year decline in one-time SPIN-related costs as we move towards a more efficient cost structure for Fortria. Now I'll cover the financial results in more detail. Second quarter revenue was $710.3 million, growing .2% versus the prior year quarter, driven primarily by an increase in revenue in our clinical pharmacology reporting unit, along with a small benefit from foreign exchange rates. Clinical development revenue was relatively flat as increases driven by recent net new business awards, including higher pass-through costs, were offset by lower FSP revenue. On a gap basis, direct costs in the quarter increased .8% -over-year, primarily due to increases in pass-through and stock compensation costs, along with a reduction in R&D tax credits, partially offset by lower personnel costs from our ongoing restructuring actions. The reductions in direct personnel costs in the quarter continue to more than offset the investments in merit and variable compensation that we've highlighted previously. Permanent headcount across all of Fortria is down more than 8% over the last 12 months, as we carefully balance the need to reduce our cost base while continuing to deliver high quality services to our customers. SG&A in the quarter was lower -over-year by 20.1%, primarily due to lower TSA and IT related costs, partially offset by the yield costs related to the receivable securitization program, along with an increase in personnel costs related to the reinstatement of merit and variable compensation. If you look at SG&A sequentially, excluding the impact of one-time costs and the securitization yield costs, SG&A in the second quarter is 4% lower than in the first quarter of 2025, and 15% lower than our fourth quarter of 2024 run rate. This includes the absorption of merit and variable compensation noted above. I'll discuss more about our ongoing transformation efforts across the organization later in my remarks. Net interest expense in the quarter was $23.3 million, a decrease of $21.9 million versus the prior year quarter, primarily due to the $475 million debt pay down across our term loans made in June, 2024. Because of that large pay down, our interest expense in Q2 of last year included a $12.2 million write down of debt issuance costs. To better compare the -on-year reduction, taking the combination of cash interest expense plus recurring securitization costs, it provides a spend that is approximately 18% lower in the second quarter of this year. Turning to our tax rate, the effective tax rate for continuing operations for the quarter was negative 1.1%. The rate was adversely impacted by an impairment of goodwill that has no tax benefit, an increase in our valuation allowance, the impact of BEAT, non-deductible compensation expenses, and withholding taxes for 2025 non-US earnings that are not permanently reinvested. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was relatively flat at $54.9 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of $55.2 million in the prior year period. Sequentially, adjusted EBITDA margin in the quarter was positively impacted by higher service fee revenue along with lower personnel costs and operations as we continue to execute against our margin expansion initiative. Moving to net income and adjusted net income. In the second quarter of 2025, net loss was $374.9 million compared to a net loss of $99.3 million in the prior year period, primarily due to a non-cash pre-tax goodwill impairment charge of $309.1 million related to our clinical development reporting unit. The charge was primarily a result of the decline in our share price since March 31st, 2025, and to a lesser extent, a market-based increase in the discount rate used for the valuation. There is no indicator of impairment in our clinical pharmacology reporting unit. Excluding the impact of the impairment charge, the quarterly net loss decreased year on year, driven by the targeted reductions in our cost base. In the second quarter of 2025, adjusted net income was $17.6 million compared to adjusted net loss of $2.3 million in the prior year period. For the current quarter, adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share were 19 cents. Turning to customer concentration. Our top 10 customers represented 59% of second quarter 2025 revenues. Our largest customer accounted for .2% of revenues during the quarter ending June 30th, 2025. As I comment on cash flows, note that all references to prior year cash flows are for the entirety of Fortria, as we had not segregated cash flows from discontinued operations for the businesses sold in June 2024. To more clearly see year to date and second quarter cash flow metrics, please refer to slide six in the investor presentation we released this morning. For the six months ended June 30th, 2025, we reported negative operating cash flow of $102.4 million compared to positive operating cash flow of $248.1 million in the prior year period. The $350.5 million reduction in year over year cash flow can largely be attributed to a few key factors related to our receivables. The year to date figure for 2024 included $298 million in proceeds from our initial sale of receivables under our securitization program in June of 2024. While 2025 includes the remaining negative impact of the temporary pause in invoicing in the first quarter of 2025 to support our ERP transition. For the second quarter of 2025, we generated positive operating cash flow of $21.8 million and free cash flow of $14.3 million in line with our expectations. Day sales outstanding from continuing operations was 46 days as of June 30th, 2025, five days lower than March 31st, 2025 and eight days lower than the same period last year. The reduction versus the first quarter demonstrates our progress towards catching up on the delayed invoicing from our ERP transition. Net accounts receivable and unbuilt services for continuing operations were $739 million as of June 30th, 2025, compared to $660 million as of December 31st, 2024, with the increase versus year end primarily driven by the increase in DSO and to a lesser extent, higher revenue. We ended the quarter with $50 million outstanding on the revolver. This balance improved sequentially compared to the $89 million of borrowing outstanding as of March 31st, 2025. We are targeting operating cash flow to be positive across the remaining quarters of 2025, driven by lower cash outlays for restructuring and spin-related costs, as well as incremental cash generation from working capital. I want to be clear about this point. We believe that Fortria has ample liquidity with $400 million available on our revolver as of June 30th, 2025, plus more than $80 million of cash on hand. We generated positive operating cash flow in the quarter and currently project to do so for the remaining quarters of 2025. Everything we have done and are doing from our operational execution, our progress against our cost savings initiatives, and reaffirmation of our 2025 guidance underscores a continued improvement in our underlying financial performance. With our projected EBITDA and significant addbacks available under the credit agreement, we expect that we will continue to have ample liquidity for the foreseeable future. As an important reminder, our credit agreement includes addbacks well beyond what we include in our definition of adjusted EBITDA, such as pro forma benefits from in-flight cost savings initiatives, Fortria's public company costs, and costs necessitated by the spin. The maximum net leverage ratio under the amended credit agreement ranges from 5.5 times to six times over the years 2025 and 2026, and reverts to 5.3 times as of the first quarter of 2027. While we do not disclose our covenant calculations, we have considerable headroom, and our covenant leverage ratio under our credit agreement is significantly better than our reported leverage ratio, generally at least one turn better than our reported leverage. We are currently and anticipate that we will remain fully compliant with the financial maintenance ratios of the credit agreement for the foreseeable future. With our TSA exit behind us, we plan to focus our capital allocation priorities on driving organic growth and improving productivity, along with debt repayment. Backlog burn this quarter was higher than the first quarter, supported by growth in our faster burning clinical pharmacology reporting unit, along with our progress to move clinical development awards into more intensive phases of their life cycle. We anticipate continuation of these first half trends in the second half. Although we are still seeing some delays in the startup of biotech projects, our analysis shows that once underway, these projects tend to burn more quickly than large pharma studies. As previously noted, FSP revenue is anticipated to be a headwind in 2025, but we are rekindling our efforts in FSP, including the launch of a dedicated sales team at the start of the third quarter, because we believe we can win attractive FSP work that can benefit both our margins and our customer base. We continue to target driving our commercial team towards achieving book to bill ratios in line with our peer set, but given the ongoing uncertainty in the macro economic environment and the recent leadership transition, it is not prudent to give guidance on book to bill. The pricing environment remains competitive, and we are monitoring pricing feedback closely as we attempt to balance winning new business with achieving attractive margins. As previously shared, we are making targeted investments this year to expand our commercial coverage of biotech, recognizing that over time, biotech organizations are expected to remain a compelling source of innovation and growth. Now I'll give an update on how we're executing against our transformation plans for 2025. As previously shared, we continue to execute against our target of gross cost reductions of $150 million in 2025 with the expected net benefit of 90 to $100 million this year, as some of the cost reductions are being offset by the reintroduction of merit and variable compensation. This 90 to $100 million will be split with roughly 50 million improving gross margins and 40 to 50 million leading to lower SG&A. Year to date, we have captured more than $50 million in gross savings with roughly 30 million in net savings contributing to improvements in EBITDA. These savings have largely benefited gross margin as we are targeting the SG&A savings to be more heavily weighted to the second half. Building on what we discussed back in May, through the second quarter, we have increased our reduction in office square footage by a further 10% and rationalized a further 5% of the applications we inherited with the SPIN. We expect these optimization programs will extend into 2026 as we continue our efforts to bring our SG&A spend more in line with peers. For full year 2025, we are raising our revenue guidance and reaffirming our adjusted EBITDA outlook. Based on exchange rates as of December 31st, 2024, we are increasing our revenue targets to a range of $2.6 billion to $2.7 billion. At the same time, we are reaffirming our adjusted EBITDA targets in the range of $170 million to $200 million, reflecting continued operational discipline. In terms of cash flow, for full year 2025, we are targeting operating cash flow to be marginally negative with positive cash flow generated in the remaining quarters of 2025. In terms of modeling the second half of 2025, we are targeting revenues in the third and fourth quarter to be more in line with the first quarter. The team at Fortria has shown phenomenal resilience. We've come through a complex spin, exited the TSA on time, and laid the operational and financial groundwork for the future. The level of commitment and focus I've seen from our employees is extraordinary. We've endured uncertainty, worked through significant change, and emerged with clarity and stability. And now we are exclusively focused on what is most important, delighting our customers and executing against our plans to improve our overall financial results. As we enter the next phase of our journey as a global leader in clinical development, we are closing the door to our transition phase and embracing our transformation phase. Through it all, we have maintained strong engagement scores from our employees, delivered improved net promoter scores, and built the discipline we need to steadily improve. We are excited about the future of Fortria. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and re-queue if you have an additional question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Eric Caldwell of Baird. Your line is open.

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Eric Caldwell
Analyst at Baird

Thanks very much. Good morning. I have a two-parter, both related. First, I'm just curious on these smaller, newer to Fortria hesitant biotech clients. Did they go a different direction or did they simply delay decisions? Is there some kind of commentary around what was lost versus what was delayed coming out of 2Q as there was some hesitancy? And then more importantly, welcome to Anshul and Tracy. Anshul, I'm hoping you can make some additional comments on your commercial style, the skills you bring, relationships you bring to the company, how you approach building a successful commercial operation and whether you've any 48 hours in, whether you have any initial views on how your approach to building and developing the Salesforce and commercial marketing team, how that might differ from where Fortria is today. Thanks very much.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Eric. I'll take the first part of that question, then I'll turn it over to Anshul for the second part. So with regard to the new Fortria biotechs, I think, candidly, those are biotechs that made a decision to go in a different direction. It's not uncommon, as we had mentioned, and Peter mentioned his remarks, we saw the same thing, if you recall, prior to the spin, when there was some uncertainty about leadership. And we saw that very quickly dissipate once the leadership was in place and we were moved. So in a while, unfortunately, we're not expecting to have those same uncertainty concerns with customers going forward. So we're hopeful that that is a relatively short period in transition. Anshul, I'll turn it over to you. Sure,

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Eric, thanks for the question. It's day three, so I'll answer what I can. In terms of commercial style, a couple of important things to point out. To me, this is a professional services business, and I approach the CRO industry like a professional services business. It's to figure out what our customers' needs are, figure out what tools and capabilities we have to meet those needs. And more often than not, it's about delivering the high quality results and trying to bend the time cost curve, everything we did in my prior career. To me, achieving the commercial excellence here is about commercial excellence, financial excellence, and operational excellence. That's what it will take to win the hearts and minds of our customers. But Eric, it's day three, ask me again in Q3, and I'll have spent a lot more time with our customers by then and I'll have a deeper answer for you.

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Eric Caldwell
Analyst at Baird

Sounds good. Again, welcome to the shop. Happy to have you here.

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spk07

Thanks, Eric.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Justin Bowers of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

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Justin Bowers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Hi, good morning, everyone, and welcome, Anshul. So also a two-parter for me. Number one, can you discuss the overall demand environment in pharma and biotech and how that's evolved throughout the year? And then part two is just an update on the phase one business. That's been fairly robust for you guys. Are you still leaning on third party for capacity support? And if so, when do you expect that to normalize?

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Justin, thanks for the question. Let me take the first part about sort of our demand environment and I'll hand it over to Jill to talk about specifics in our phase one business. Look, you know, I'm cautiously optimistic. We are seeing our fair share of RFPs. I agree with the broader market sentiment that's been expressed by others in the industry as well. We, too, are seeing our pipelines trending upwards, both across biotech and large pharma. Now, our lack of exposures to vaccines or government-funded programs is a positive in this macro environment for us. In addition, as Jill has indicated and as Peter has indicated, our strong biotech pipeline is another positive for us. And not being over-indexed to any one customer segment is something I'm excited about here at Portraya. So with that, I'll turn it over to Jill to talk a little bit more about how our CPS business is performing.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Anshul. Justin, our clinical pharmacology business continues to be an industry leader and perform incredibly well. In fact, as we have shared previously, our biggest challenge at the moment is capacity constraints. And so that has caused us to have to shift some of that work to third parties. And we're continuing to refine scheduling to try to improve that. And we're hopeful in the future we'll be able to bring more of those awards in-house. But continuing to have great success there, both operationally and scientifically. And we're very excited about the continued building of that business.

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Anshul

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Patrick Donnelly of Citi. Your line is open.

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Patrick Donnelly
Analyst at Citi

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe just a follow-up on the bookings environment. Can you just talk a bit about what you're seeing on the cancellation side? It sounds like, again, the visibility. You don't want to talk too much about the go-forward book to bill. But just trying to feel out, again, what you saw in the call, what the right way to just think about that cancel piece is. Just competitively, again, how you guys are doing on the win rates would be helpful just to talk through that a bit.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sorry, Patrick. I'll take that one. So in terms of cancellations, we have fortunately continued to see cancellations in line with our historic trends, which are relatively low. Our cancellations are actually even slightly lower than they were in the first quarter. So from a cancellation perspective, we've been pleased to see that trend continue. In terms of win rates, they were relatively consistent with our existing large pharma and biotech customers. But as we called out, we did see a drop in the new to Fortria biotech customers. And again, hopefully, we'll see that start to turn around as we go through the second half.

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Patrick Donnelly
Analyst at Citi

OK, understood. Jill, maybe just on the margin side, can you just talk about the moving pieces there? Obviously, that has moved around a little bit over the last few quarters. What's the right way to think about just that launching point into next year is? And similarly, inside that, the pricing environment, it sounds like it's competitive. What that could mean on margin is maybe just a little more color on pricing. Thank you,

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

guys. Yeah, maybe I'll take pricing first. I mean, I think many folks have called out that the pricing environment is very competitive. We think that we're competing well. We continue to watch that. Our goal has never been to be the lowest price. We want to be priced at market. So we're monitoring those trends and adjusting as and where we need to. But I think at the moment, we're handling that well. But we don't see anything incredibly aggressive. But I know it continues to be competitive, as you know. In terms of margin, we're not at a point where we're going to talk about 2026 yet. But you will expect continuation and annualization, for example, of the initiatives that we put in place, in particular, as we've shared, those SG&A ones that are more weighted towards the second half. So you'll have the benefit of those fully in 2026. And we also have talked previously about continuing to drive additional savings out of SG&A next year while we continue to try to improve gross margin. So I'm expecting to be able to share a little bit more about that in the future. But I think where we are today for the year, it's a little bit too early to talk about 26 margins.

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Patrick Donnelly
Analyst at Citi

Understood. Thank you,

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

guys. Thank you. And our next question comes from Elizabeth Anderson of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

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Elizabeth Anderson
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. And welcome, Anjula. It's nice to catch up with you. I had a question just in terms of the outlook for the back half of the year. I think you called out that the guidance raised in terms of revenue was largely driven by FX. And I just wanted to make sure I understood all the moving pieces on the EBITDA line. Could you just talk about your FX exposure on a revenue versus EBITDA basis? And I know, obviously, you have the cost-cutting benefits, but some planned investments. So could you just walk us through that to make sure we have all of our ducks in a row on that point?

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Elizabeth. I'm happy to. No, the raise is not related to FX. We talked about it having a very minor impact. I think it was 60 basis points in this quarter. We're expecting it to be fairly similar as we go forward. Obviously, no one can predict where rates will go, but that is not the driver of the guidance range on the revenue side. So I think it's moving our projects more into intensive phases, especially some of the newer awards that we've won. And there's also some impact of pass-throughs in there as well.

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Elizabeth Anderson
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Got it. And so just in terms of how that flows down to EBITDA, if that's the case, is that sort of a reflection of some incremental investments or just some conservatism around the colleges? I guess with the revenue increase being more operationally driven, I'm just surprised not to see a little bit more flow through into EBITDA. So I just wanted to make sure I have that organized in my

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

head. Yeah, sure. Elizabeth, a very fair question, but I think at this point it's most prudent for us to maintain our guidance. And we'll see how the year plays out. We're pleased with our progress against the margin expansion initiatives, but felt like it was appropriate to maintain our adjusted EBITDA guidance at this point.

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Elizabeth Anderson
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you very much for this question.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Tucker Remers of Jeffreys. Your line is open.

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Tucker Remers
Analyst at Jefferies

Hello. Thanks for the question. Just kind of drilling into this second half guidance here. So it sounds like you guys expect a step down in revenue from the second quarter, but maybe more in line this first quarter. So I guess I'm just trying to put the pieces together of why is the kind of burn rate maybe dropping back down in the second half, and how do pass-throughs play a role into that? Thank you.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Tucker. So I think we are expecting a little bit, especially towards the end of the year, in moderation in pass-throughs. They're still going to be elevated in the second half, but we actually have a very large, very heavy -through-driven study that was successfully ended early. And so one of the things that's been driving from that higher one is that winds down, will impact revenues in the back end of the year. I think what you'll see is revenues more in line with the first quarter, but with better margins on them, as you can see relative to the maintaining of the adjusted EBITDA guidance as the cost savings initiatives continue to deliver.

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Tucker Remers
Analyst at Jefferies

Got it. And then one more, if I could. Just on the large pharma environment, it seemed like that environment's been getting a little bit better, but maybe more stuck in the butt in second quarter versus earlier in the year. So I guess, can you explain what large pharma customers are telling you and where your wind rate has been with those larger customers, not the biotech that went somewhere else because of the CEO transition? And that's all for me, thanks.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Tucker. With our large pharma, existing large pharma customers, relationships are strong. The wind rates are consistent. We're continuing to get and win new work from them, and we're pleased with that. I think in terms of the conversations, everyone is dealing with the uncertainty and not knowing exactly where the environment's going to land. I think there was talk on the news on the way in this morning that we're going to hear some more news in the next couple of weeks. So we'll all wait and see what that looks like. But I think at this point, people are moving forward with making decisions, and we've been pleased to see them continuing to award us new business.

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Anshul

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

And our next question comes from Luke Sergot of Barclays. The line is open.

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Jake
Analyst at Barclays

Hey, this is Jake on for Luke. Thanks for the question. So you've given an initial 2026 framework around pre and post spin backlog and sales mix, but given the bookings this quarter, does the framework still stand? And also, what are you doing to increase confidence in those new or before trader customers? Thanks.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

So I think in terms of the pre and post spin, we did see continued improvement in post spin awards, adding to revenue this quarter. We saw that a little bit in the uptick in the revenues here in the quarter. I think we're continuing to monitor that situation closely, and they're progressing in the same direction that we expected they were of our full service clinical development revenue. They're about 30% of that portion of the revenue in the quarter, so a little bit higher than they were in the first quarter. So the guidance we had talked about previously about that reaching more than 50% of that subset of revenue in the back half of next year holds. I think, and sorry, this was the second. Yeah, you want to take that on?

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Jake, the second question was about how we think about the new to for trader customers. I think that this is where getting to the other side of the CEO transition is extremely important for us as a company, and this is where I see having the greatest impact here in the coming months. My role, as I said earlier, in the next few months is going to be to really engage our customers, both perspective as well as current, and our colleagues around the world. And that's how we plan to address it.

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Anshul

Great, thanks for that.

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spk07

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

And our next question comes from Max Smock of William Blair. Your line is open.

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Max Smock
Analyst at William Blair

Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking our questions. I'm sure I know you've only been in the seat a couple of days here, but just thinking through, or maybe a strategic one from our end, talked about leaning into FSP, making yourself more competitive in large pharma, but at the same time your win rates and down in small biotech. How do you think about prioritizing these opportunities moving forward, and where do you really want to lean in or see the most opportunity for share gains in the near future? Thank you.

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Max, happy to take that question. Look, I think with the uncertainty in the market, we did see a dip in the win rates, but as Jill has said, that's been with new to Fortray and biotech customers, our win rates have been fairly consistent with our existing customers in both customer segments. And so where I see opportunity is what I talked about earlier, is continue to sharpen our commercial discipline, our financial discipline, and our operational discipline. But give me the 90 days to get out there and talk to our customers and colleagues and come back to you and ask me that same question again in 90 days, Max.

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Max Smock
Analyst at William Blair

Fair enough, I'll hold you to that. Maybe, Jill, just a quick one for me, and apologies if you've covered this, I know we've talked about burn rate a little bit already, but can you just walk through what exactly drove that big step up here in the quarter and what's really changed as we head into the back half of the year? I think even with your guide, anticipating revenue comes down a little bit, still elevated burn in the back half. And before, I think we had talked pretty consistently about burn rate continuing to be under pressure. So can you just walk us through again the drivers in terms of what's really changed and what's driving that increase in burn right here for the remainder of the year?

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Max. I think in the quarter, we really benefited from the clinical pharmacology reporting unit as that continues to grow. We'll still see some benefit from that. As you know, it's faster burning, and we're continuing to try to find ways to leverage the capacity we have, and again, very pleased with how that business is performing. You know, with the parts of the clinical development business, it's really as we're moving some of the newer awards into more intensive phases of their life cycle and some of the operational excellence that we've been able to drive. You heard Peter talk about some of those metrics in his remarks, I think is allowing us to see a path to a slightly improved burn rate in the back half compared to what we originally thought, probably in the 8 1⁄2 to 9% range, so relatively consistent with first half trends.

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Anshul

Thanks again for taking our questions.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Riskin of Bank of America. Your line is open.

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Michael Riskin
Analyst at Bank of America

Great, thanks for taking the question. First, I wanna ask on cancellations a little bit more, really encouraging commentary, given what we've seen from others, especially the fact that you actually have cancellations approved from 1G to 2G. Just wondering why you think you're seeing better trends than we've seen elsewhere. Is this just a function of exposure and cancellations being a little bit more concentrated with certain specific large pharma sponsors where you may not have, might not be as large a part of the mix, or just anything you're executing differently, types of programs you're linked to, just any additional color on why you've been more resilient there and why you think that might continue?

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Sure, I'll take that. I think in terms of cancellations, you're right. It is about who you're exposed to. We don't do government work generally. We don't have really a book of business in the government-related or government-funded work, and we have very limited exposure on the vaccine side, which I think is some of the issue that our peers have faced. We also have a relatively conservative bookings policy, so I think that also has helped us to keep our cancellation rates in check. But we monitor it constantly, and we've been pleased to see that it's really remained in line.

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Michael Riskin
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay, thanks. And Jill, just piggybacking on, I think it was Elizabeth's question earlier on the EBITDA outlook for the second half, just thinking through what you've seen in the first half so far, and then just the rest of the cost savings program, if that gets you another, I think, 60, 70 million net in the second half, that alone should get you more or less to your EBITDA target for the year. So is this just, like you said, is this just a little bit of conservatism? Are those savings on the SGA front coming later in the year so you won't see the full benefit in the second half? You'll get them more in 26. Maybe you could talk about the timing of those coming through. That'd be helpful.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure. I think you're right in that they're continuing to ramp, particularly in the SG&A functions. As you remember, we had to fully exit the TSA and get up and running in the new ERP system, for example, which takes a couple quarters before you can start to make broader changes. So some of it is the timing, and some of it's also a function of how the service fee revenue will play out in the back half of the year with revenue numbers being slightly lower than they were in this quarter. There's a little bit of that impact as well. And those are the major drivers.

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Anshul

All right, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Jalendra Singh of Chuyos Securities. Your line is open.

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Jalendra Singh
Analyst at Chuyos Securities

Thank you, and thanks for taking my questions. And congrats and best wishes on Jalendra and Tracy. Looking forward to working with you both. And Hema, best wishes to you as well, and thanks for all the help in recent years. I want to follow up on the win rate comments in Biotech. It seems you are describing win rates outside of impact, the CEO transition pretty stable. Just trying to better understand the market environment there. Are you seeing increased competition in the space with some of your peers calling out, making a push in that market more aggressively? Have there been any shifts in the average RFP time from issuance to award? Just gives a little bit more flavor about the market environment you're seeing outside of the CEO transition impact.

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Jill McConnell
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I'm happy to take that question. I think in terms of win rates, we're, you know, we've, I mentioned in my remarks, we're seeing still a little bit of the delays in the booking, although they seem to be kind of leveling off. So that's positive in terms of the time you see them until the time people are making decisions. Good science is still getting funded. We did have the, you know, the impact of the transition in the quarter, which creates a perception of uncertainty. And that, you know, again, we were really pleased that that transition period was very short. And we expect that to, you know, dissipate very quickly as we go through and have the competition. Yes, I think the market environment is competitive. All of our peers have talked about that. But again, with existing biotech customers, we're still winning consistently. So we think it's just a function of now that we can take some of that leadership transition off the table. We will be able to, you know, we'll be fine there in terms of the new to Fortria customers. And with existing Pharma, we're pleased to continue seeing, you know, good awards coming through and continuing to win and consistent rates in existing Pharma.

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Jalendra Singh
Analyst at Chuyos Securities

Okay. And Anshul, one for you, not asking anything specific to Fortria, but given your strong background in the industry, I would love to get your thoughts on various traditions, headwinds, tailwinds the industry is going through or has gone through recently. You're clearly positive on the CRO industry in longer term, but would you be willing to share some thoughts on the, trying to put the current environment in some perspective, like what it takes the industry to navigate through these challenges, what the focus of technology, focus of transition, focus of clients. So give us a little bit more flavor of putting the current environment in perspective, given your experience.

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Anshul Tukral
Chief Executive Officer

Sure, I'm happy to do that. You know, I went through this decision-making process as I thought about this industry and its fundamentals before joining the team at Fortria. And I'm extremely excited with the choice I made to join this team. I will tell you, you know, yes, you see some headwinds. You see some headwinds due to many of the macro level environment. We've talked about that. All of our competitors have talked about that, but I remain steadfast in the market fundamentals. What Jill just said a couple seconds ago, good science continues to get funded. And that's a statement that applies both at the pharmaceutical, large pharma companies, and it applies at the biotech companies. Good science, good drugs continue to get developed. And the CRO industry is a fundamental tool by which these drugs continue to get developed. So I stay steadfast in the long-term fundamentals of the industry. And listen, that's really why I'm here. And that's why I'm excited to be here. And as I've said a couple of times, over the next few months, I'm gonna be traveling, meeting with our colleagues and our customers, and really getting a feel for how we're gonna leverage Fortria's strengths with that market backdrop that I just described.

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Jalendra Singh
Analyst at Chuyos Securities

Okay, thanks guys.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

Thank you, I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Peter Newberg for closing remarks.

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Peter Newport
Chairman and Interim CEO

Thank you everybody for listening. The exciting time in the industry, as Anshul just said, we're excited to have him on board, and we look forward to sustaining our relationship with you.

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Operator
Conference Call Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.

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