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spk03: Greetings and welcome to the Gladstone Investment Third Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Chief Executive Officer David Gladstone. Thank you. You may begin.
spk02: Well, thank you very much, and welcome to all of you coming into this call. This is a good call coming up, so I hope you stay tuned through the whole thing. This is the third quarter report for fiscal year 2023. This quarter ended December 31st, so we're a little bit further away from that. Earnings and conference call for shareholders and analysts of Gladstone Investment listed on NASDAQ, trading symbol GAIN. for the common stock. And then we have two registered notes, one under GAINN and GAINZ. And thank you all for calling in. We're always happy to provide an update to our shareholders and the analysts who call in, provide a new point of entry in terms of information about the company. Two goals for this call. First, help you understand anything that's happened in the past through December. and give you a current view for the future. Now we'll start out, not with our general counsel this time, but with his right-hand man. And Eric is going to do Michael Lacalce's call. Go ahead, Eric. Good morning, everyone.
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spk05: Thanks, Eric. And to everyone out there listening in, we appreciate you being here. We are pleased to report that GAIN did indeed have another good quarter for this year, the 23 quarter and 1231, including in this very challenging period, obviously, of rising interest rates and inflationary costs. Our portfolio companies are meeting these challenges, and we must remain vigilant and conscious not only with our portfolio management of these companies, but also with our acquisition activity. We ended the fiscal third quarter, 12-31-22, with adjusted NII of $0.30 per share, which is slightly up from $0.29 per share in the prior quarter. And you'll hear more about this detail from our CFO, Rachel Easton, shortly. But this is good because we're also continuing the progress to our expectations for a strong fiscal year ending 3-31-23 and beyond that with future earnings. Total investments at fair value at 12-31-22 increased to $760 million from $738 million at the 9-30 quarter end. And this was primarily due to successful deal activity in the quarter. We did invest $15.5 million in a dividend recapitalization, as we call it, of one of our existing portfolio companies. And in connection with this investment, we received dividend income of $4.5 million and recognized a realized gain of $13.4 million and increased our debt investment in that company at the same time up to $14.5 million. So it accomplishes a few things, increasing our investment in a really good company, but also able to harvest income and also capital gains. And these opportunities may present themselves from time to time, and we will pursue them because they do allow us, as I mentioned, to increase our investment in a company where we know the management team, we know the business, and we have a strong belief in its future. So with a buyout market still pretty frothy, this is a good way if the opportunities present themselves. to create value with the portfolio and also at the same time obviously reward our shareholders. During the quarter, we also invested an additional $8.4 million to fund an add-on acquisition to one of our portfolio companies. This actually is also a good opportunity for us with a number of our portfolio companies as we grow them and build them and we will continue to fund add-on acquisitions. We did exit one investment. Uh, with our, with our debt investment being repaid and we received success fee income of $1.1 million on that particular investment previously announced, uh, during the quarter, we did increase our monthly dividend by 6.7% to 8 cents per share, which is up from 7.5 cents per share for a new annual run rate of 96 cents per share. We also paid a supplemental distribution of 12 cents per share in December of 2022. Subsequent to the quarter end, we declared a supplemental distribution of 24 cents per share, which will be paid in March of 2023. We currently anticipate being able to continue funding these supplemental distributions, and they come from the recognition of realized capital gains on the equity portion and of the future exits potentially from other recapitalizations. Our buyout focus strategy continues to successfully generate both income from all the distributions to shareholders and of capital gains on equity, which allows us to make these supplemental distributions. And this is our game plan. Now, we did experience a very small decline in valuations in the aggregate across our portfolio. This was primarily a result of declining valuation multiples, even though there were increases in the actual EBITDA at many of our portfolio companies. Our balance sheet continues to be strong, low leverage, very positive liquidity position with significant availability in our credit facility. And this will allow us to continue providing support to our portfolio companies for add-on acquisitions and interim financing if the need arises, while actively seeking new buyout opportunities and allowing us to grow our assets. So looking forward, even though there does seem to be some decline in the multiples being used to determine the values of buyouts, The market is still very competitive, being strong, and there's significant liquidity in the buyout funds who we compete with. But we'll remain selective while aggressively seeking new acquisitions, and we will be patient in our diligence and our review process. So briefly, in summing up the quarter and looking forward, we believe the state of our portfolio is very good from a credit perspective. We have a strong liquid balance sheet. We have an active level of buyout activity. and continued prospect of good earnings and distributions over the next year. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to our CFO, Rachel Easton, to go into some more detail. Rachel.
spk00: Thanks, Dave. I'll start with a summary of the fund's operating performance for the quarter ended December 31st, 2022. In the fiscal third quarter of FY23, we generated adjusted net investment income of $10 million or 30 cents per share from $9.7 million or 29 cents per share in the prior quarter. We continue to believe that adjusted net investment income, which is investment income exclusive of any capital gains-based incentive fees, is a useful and representative indicator of our ongoing operations. In the fiscal third quarter of FY23, we generated total investment income of $21.6 million, an increase compared to $20.8 million in the prior quarter. The $.8 million increase in total investment income during the quarter was primarily due to an increase in overall yields on our debt investments driven by an increase in LIBOR as well as interest income on additional debt investments made during the current quarter. The increase in total investment income was offset by an increase in net expenses to $13 million from $9.4 million in the prior quarter, primarily due to a $3.1 million increase in accrued capital gains-based incentive fees due to the net impact of realized and unrealized gains and losses as required under U.S. GAAP. As a result, net investment income for the quarter ended December 31st, 2022 declined to 8.6 million or 26 cents per share from 11.4 million or 34 cents per share in the prior quarter. During the quarter, one portfolio company was moved to non-accrual status and we believe it will be back to paying interest in the next couple quarters. We now have three portfolio companies that are on non-accrual status and we will continue working with these companies to get them back on accrual status when possible. We believe that maintaining liquidity and flexibility to support and grow our portfolio are key elements of our success. We have long-term capital in place, and at December 31, 2022, had over $150 million available on our $180 million credit. Additionally, we raised approximately $3 million in net proceeds under our common stock ATM program. Overall, our leverage is low, with an asset coverage ratio at 1231.22 of 250.5%. Our NAV per share increased during the quarter to $13.43 per share at 12-31-2022. This is compared to $13.31 per share at 9-30-2022. The increase here was primarily driven by $8.6 million of net investment income, $3.8 million of net realized gains on investments, $3.4 million of net unrealized depreciation on investments, and $3 million of proceeds under our ATM program. These amounts were then partially offset by $12 million of distributions that we paid to common shareholders. With prior quarters, distributable book earnings to shareholders remain strong. During the quarter, we increased our monthly distribution to $0.08 per share for a new annual run rate of $0.96 per share, and we paid a $0.12 per share supplemental distribution in December 2022. In January, we declared a $0.24 per share supplemental distribution to be paid next month in March 2023. Using the monthly distribution run rate of $0.96 per share per year and $0.48 per share in supplemental distributions that have been paid or declared for the fiscal year, our aggregate fiscal year distributions would total $1.44 per common share or yield about 10.5% using yesterday's closing price of $13.78. This covers my part of today's call. Back to you, David.
spk02: Oh, thank you very much. That's very nice, Rachel, and nice that Dave and Eric both provided more information to our shareholders. This call, plus the 10-Q filed at the SEC yesterday, and you'll also find it on our website, surely brings everybody up to date. The team, again, has reported solid results for the quarter. I believe the team is in a great position to continue success through the remainder of our fiscal year, which ends in March 31, 2023. Gladstone Investment is an attractive investment for investors seeking continuous monthly distributions and supplemental distributions from capital gains. The team hopes to continue to show strong returns for the investment of the fund. Folks, you're now getting $0.96 per year. That's a nice 7% yield. And then if they can pay supplementals, brought it up to $10.5 for this year. So great performance. Back up the truck. Buy a lot of shares because I think we're strong. You've been paying dividends for how long, Dave? About 200 and? 227 consecutive months.
spk00: 227. That's just fantastic. And I think all of you know the
spk02: The team here has presented to you a plan for going forward and paying dividends to shareholders. So now let's have some questions from our analysts and shareholders, and operator, if you'll come on and give them the signal of how to do that.
spk03: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for your questions. Our first questions come from the line of Mickey Schlein with Lattenburg. Please proceed with your questions.
spk06: Yes, good morning, everyone. Dave, I understand that you said in the prepared remarks that the market for buyouts remains frothy, but are you seeing any improvement in opportunities available to you given all the risks and headwinds that we're seeing in the market currently?
spk05: Hey, Mickey, good morning. So the short answer is we are seeing opportunities. There are still good companies out there. I'd say that we have seen, even though I say frothy, frothy being defined really as from a competitive perspective, still a lot of money out there to be put to work. So as a result of that, the companies that are coming to market represented by, you know, good quality investment bankers, we're still seeing fairly aggressive, I would call it multiples from a valuation standpoint. I would also say, though, that to some degree that the volume actually overall has come down slightly. There seems to be a little bit of a holding pattern right now. So some companies that perhaps might be coming to market, they're kind of holding. Just to be sure, as you just sort of reflected on, seeing how the earnings are going to look for the rest of the year, so to speak. So instead of getting into a conversation about a reduced valuation, it's maybe better to hold and just wait and see how the year evolves. All of that said, there still are good companies. We're in the process right now with a number of what we call indications of interest on some pretty decent-sized businesses for us, as well as actually moving into a couple of letter of intents, which means the process starts for the intense due diligence, obviously, that we do. So if I hope and expect that we'll do a couple of pretty decent deals this year, I think that's highly likely. And But again, as you well know, we're going to be very careful with our valuation metrics because we do the debt and the equity, and we've got to be careful about that.
spk06: Yeah, I agree, and I appreciate that. Dave, I have a few questions about portfolio credit quality given the difficult outlook for the economy, so bear with me here. When did you place edge on non-accrual, and did you reverse any previously accrued interest income on edge? Rachel, you want to answer?
spk00: Yes, we placed edge on non-accrual at the beginning of the quarter, so as of October 1st, and we reversed one month.
spk06: Oh, you reversed a month. Okay. And Dave, I mean, broadly speaking, what are the issues that edge is confronting? Clearly, the previous valuation was already stressed, and now it's on non-accrual, but you mentioned that you're hoping for a positive outcome in a couple of quarters. Can you What insight can you give us into that company?
spk05: Well, interestingly enough, Mickey, some cases we have, and this is one of those where actually the company is generating, has cash, is generating cash. We might have another lender in there, and there's some constraints as a result of the fixed charge coverage metrics that, say, the lender would be looking at. So while the company might be in a position to pay our interest, So from time to time, we may have to do that. Fundamentally, I would say that the company actually is performing quite well going into the beginning of this year. And as Rachel pointed out, I would hope and expect that we indeed somewhere in the next few quarters would be able to bring that back on accrual status.
spk06: I understand. And I see that you recapitalized Mountain, which has been on accrual for a while. but it's still on non-accrual. Can you give us any insight into the outlook for that company?
spk05: Yeah, I don't think that will come back on accrual, frankly, for a while. What we did was we essentially, as you well know, that has been effectively from a valuation perspective, been written down for quite a while. So what we did was essentially restructure the debt at a slightly different valuation and allowed us to therefore, quote, write off for all purposes, including tax purposes, you know, some of the debt. So that's how we manage that one. But I would not honestly anticipate that coming back on accrual for some time.
spk06: And is that, I mean, their end user is consumers. Is it just weakness in the consumer at the mountain? And is that something you're seeing elsewhere in the portfolio?
spk05: Yeah. On their particular products, we have seen a little bit of softness in the December timeframe. Interestingly enough, January, which is generally a slow month, by the way, for them as well. So that's not necessarily unusual. Looking forward, we're seeing a slight, we think a slight uptick in February. But certainly, you know, the customer base that they have are generally these specialty stores. Also places like the zoos, the institutions like... Smithsonian and what have you, and there clearly has been some drop-off in activity at those levels. So the company is kind of holding its own, honestly. We've had, I think I've reflected on this over the years, we've had probably more issues around management with that particular company than we've had with some others, and that's as much, frankly, a part of it, but we're very intensively working on it and doing the things that we need to do to get it the best outcome as possible.
spk06: I appreciate that. Dave, you mentioned in your prepared remarks that on a net basis, the decline or the unrealized depreciation in the portfolio outside of Old World and the mountain was driven mostly by multiples. Is that the case at Horizon Facilities, which was marked down relatively meaningfully, or are there company performance issues there as well?
spk00: So, Horizon specifically was both a decline in multiples and a decline in EBITDA.
spk06: Okay. That's it for me this morning. I appreciate your time. Thank you.
spk05: But just one last thing on Horizon, though. That company is very solid. very strong and even though we have a slight decline in in EBITDA and multiple you get a kind of a double whammy but that company is that's that's doing very that's a really good company very well managed and one that we feel very very good about just to be clear thank you our next thank you our next question has come from the line of Kyle Joseph with Jefferies please proceed with your question
spk01: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On the credit side of things, can you give a sense for how your companies have been able to adjust to the higher rate environment and the higher debt servicing costs and kind of how that's impacted the overall leverage of your portfolio?
spk05: Well, Kyle, I think other than the ones that we sort of specifically talked about, as Mickey was asking, We're not seeing any stress. Obviously, some of the companies, as you well know, most of our debt has a floor. Not most, in fact, all of our debt has a floor. So where we've been at LIBOR plus, the way we structure our deals, LIBOR really has to start moving up pretty dramatically before you start getting above the floors on the actual loans that we have to our portfolio companies. And we've seen that, obviously, a bit in a few. And as Rachel mentioned, we've seen some of the increase in net investment income as a function of having slightly higher interest coming in. But overall, we've not seen stress on the leverage of the individual portfolio companies that is necessarily putting any of them in any real concerns at this point.
spk01: Got it. Helpful. And then just one quick follow-up on me on the Old World Christmas Recap, just give us a sense for the timing, the rationale, and how that impacts the overall capital structure of that company.
spk05: Okay, so this is the second time we've recapped Old World Christmas, actually. And the timing of that, we did it right near the end of the year in December. And that's an extremely strong company with its EBITDA. Its leverage was very low. And so it was an opportunity, and it's a great company. The management's very good. So it was an opportunity, frankly, to be able to, you know, for us to put some more money to work, take some, as I mentioned, you know, we get some fees, obviously, from that, and also it happened to lend itself to a capital gain perspective. So the good news about that company as well, to some extent, You have a pretty good idea where the year is going to look early in the calendar year, in part because of the nature of its business. So again, I don't know what else, Kyle, I can tell you on that other than it was a great opportunity for us to be able to do another, quote, dividend recap. It allowed some of the management who have an ownership position in it as well to get a bit of a reward. And then in turn, likewise, we can make a distribution to shareholders also.
spk01: No, that's very helpful. Thanks a lot for answering my questions.
spk02: Next question.
spk03: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Bryce Rowe with B. Riley. Please proceed with your questions.
spk04: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Maybe wanted to just start with kind of a simple question around the portfolio yield. I'm just curious when, maybe when the when the floating rate loans reset from a base rate perspective, did they reset after the end of the year in early January? And do you expect kind of continued yield expansion out of that floating rate debt portfolio?
spk05: Yeah, Bryce, I'll try to give an answer and then Rachel can add to this. It's sort of automatically I'll say happens. I don't, you know, rates are starting to, now it looks like maybe if not go down, certainly stabilize. So I'm not sure we're going to see a lot more, you know, expansion in that regard above kind of where we are now with those that have gone above our floor. Rachel, you have something you want to add to that?
spk00: Yeah. So, you know, we went over that floor late last year. So, most of our, as Dave mentioned, portfolio has a floor set in place, most around generally 2%. So, really in this quarter we did see that increase in LIBOR lift our overall yield.
spk04: David, I'm sorry. I was just going to say the weighted average yield
spk05: At least the way we're counting through the quarter end went up, right, about 1.3%. That's obviously somewhat reflected as a result of that. But, again, as I say, I don't know that we're going to start seeing much more necessarily increase in that just because of somewhat stabilization, I think, you know, in LIBOR. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
spk04: Yeah, I got it. Maybe I didn't. No, you're fine, Dave. Maybe I didn't ask it the right way, but, you know, just kind of – Trying to understand whether the move that we have seen in rates, is it fully reflected in that 13.4% weighted average yield, or will you get some kind of carry-through here in the March quarter?
spk00: Yes, it is fully reflected in that 13.4%. Okay. Okay.
spk04: That's helpful. Let's see. And maybe to follow up on some of Mickey's questions around portfolio valuation. You know, Dave, you mentioned, you know, an overall net decline in portfolio valuation outside of Old World Christmas. But there were some notable increases from an appreciation perspective. So can you talk about kind of what's going on, you know, within several of those companies? Is it, you know, higher EBITDA, higher multiples? Just kind of curious how you're getting to some of those higher valuations.
spk05: Yeah, so I think if you look at, if I was to go through each one of these, I won't honestly do that, but just to give you a general sense, companies such as, I don't want to call them all out necessarily, but like a Brunswick Bowling, Mason West, DEMA, which is one of our more recent investments, Nth Degree, which we still now have an interesting investment in, Schilling, which is consumer somewhat related, PSI Molded Plastics, All of those had increases fundamentally as a result of EBITDA appreciation while there was a slight decline on multiples, which of course we don't create those. That's given to us. So net in those companies, as an example, we saw an ability as a result of the EBITDA increases to offset any sort of multiple decline, so to speak. And then when you look at some of the others, You know, Horizon, we mentioned, that had a bit of a slight EBITDA decline and a multiple decline as well. Some of the others, Educators Resources, which is a very good company, had a similar dynamic. B&T Acquisition, similar dynamic. So overall, I would say, you know, the obvious question is, you know, we have 25 companies in our portfolio. excuse me, which is down from 26 because of the, you know, we exited one company, as I mentioned, that we'd had in the portfolio for some time. So overall, I think the balance in the portfolio is very solid with the nature of the companies we have and the various industries that we're in. And, you know, as I look forward, obviously, hopefully, we'll start seeing, you know, I suspect we'll see generally EBITDA, for argument's sake, just kind of continue on a trailing 12 basis, which is obviously how we do our valuations, will probably stay relatively stable, I would expect. We might see a few increases, but nothing on a negative side necessarily. And then multiples, who knows what that's going to look like as we go through the end of this quarter. I would anticipate multiples would be probably, again, relatively stable, maybe slightly down. Okay.
spk04: Okay. That's helpful. Last one for me, you know, around the dividend and the supplemental sounds like you, you have an intention of, of continuing the supplemental dividends, um, as, as, as appropriate. Um, just curious kind of where, maybe where the, the, the estimated UTI balances at this point. Um, and how, how do you feel about, you know, that, that 48 cents, you know, annualized level from a, um, from a supplemental perspective, I guess, how much visibility do you have into that?
spk05: Yeah, well, I think Bryce, we may have talked about this, and I certainly mentioned this, I think, on most of these calls, as we know, you know, the model that we drive here at Glassdoor Investment as a, quote, buyout fund, right, being a little bit unique in the BDC space, where we have a large percentage, relatively speaking, of our investments in the equities of the companies, right? So we're not just getting... As you well know, we're not just getting a sort of equity kicker. We actually are the dominant equity source, and that's our strategy and our plan. So having said that, we're also at the same time, though, want to be sure that we are very cognizant of the need to continue paying, you know, very stable monthly distributions to shareholders, and we've been able to, as David Gladstone mentioned, done that for years. for a long, long time. We will continue doing that, and we will continue to increase those as we did roughly, I think, 6.7% this period because we are earning it on a monthly basis, and that's our focus. Therefore, the supplementals, if you will, a little bit of, I don't want to say good news, bad news. The good news is our strategy and our plan is to be able to continue as we harvest companies by exit, whether in the case of a supplemental coming from, say, the old world, which, again, is not going to happen all that frequently, these dividend recaps, frankly. But when we exit a business, and we'll probably have a couple of exits this year, that's our plan. We want to be able to do that so we can provide the supplementals. But having said that, we're not really in a position to tell you or tell anyone that we have a plan that we're going to be able to make a distribution from supplementals in June as an example. That's just not the nature of the beast. It is gonna be a, as we can manage the portfolio, manage to exits and therefore have the ability to make supplementals, that clearly is our plan, but it is gonna be a little bit less certain in that regard than certainly what we expect on our monthly distributions. Okay.
spk04: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I appreciate you taking the time this morning.
spk02: And Bryce, just so you know, sometimes you see analysts out there writing information about the number of deals we have that are on non-accrual. And that's a comparison with all of these BDCs that are just income-oriented. They don't have any capital gains or any upside. So when you compare us to the regular BDCs, you're getting a 7% yield plus the opportunity for these increases in capital gains that go through as an extra dividend. But it shouldn't be compared. We shouldn't be compared in this company with the world of BDCs simply because they're just lending money. We're doing both. And I think that should be taken into account. Do we have any more questions? I appreciate that.
spk03: Any more questions? We do not. There are no further questions. I'd like to hand the call back over to you, Mr. Glaston.
spk02: All right. Thank you very much. It was very nice to have such a wonderful quarter to report. Dave and Rachel did a great job of cleaning up the place and putting money out. It's really nice. If there are any other questions, your last chance is now. Hit the button. All right. Then we'll see you again next quarter at the end of this call.
spk03: Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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