GDS Holdings Limited

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

8/17/2021

spk12: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for GDS Holdings Limited second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Today's conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Laura Chen, head of investor relations for the company. Please go ahead, Laura.
spk04: Thank you. Hello, everyone. Welcome to 2Q21 earnings conference call of GDS Holdings Limited. The results were issued via new file services earlier today and are posted online. A summary presentation, which we'll refer to during this conference call, can be viewed and downloaded from our website at investorsgdservices.com. Leading today's call is Mr. William Huang, GDS founder, chairman, and CEO, who will provide an overview of our business strategy and performance. Mr. Dan Newman, GDS CFO, will then review the financial and operating results. Ms. Jenny Kuhl, our COO, is also available to answer questions. Before we continue, please note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Security Regulation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and certainties. As such, the company's results may be maturely different from the views expressed today. Further information regarding these and other risks and circumstances is included in the company's prospectus as filed with U.S. SEC. The company does not assume any obligation to update any thoughts of the company except as required under applicable law. Please also note that GDS earnings press release and this conference call include discussions of unaudited gap financial information as well as unaudited non-gap financial measures. GDS press release contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-gap measures to the unaudited most directly comparable gap measures. I will now turn over the call to GDS founder, chairman, and CEO. William, please go ahead, William.
spk06: Thank you, Laura. Hello, everyone. This is William. Thank you for joining me on today's call. I'm pleased to report another solid set of results. With year to date, performance is fully in line with expectations. Our sales in 2Q21 was over 44,000 square meters, including over 25,000 square meters of organic bookings and 19,000 square meters from acquisitions. We have maintained our quarterly run rate since the beginning of last year. We are confident of achieving our full year sales target. In 2Q21, we won three hyperscale orders, each of which tells a different story about our competitive edge. LF13 is a 14 megawatt expansion order from an existing customer. It's an edge of town site in Longfeng where the customer already has a big presence with us. This is an example of land and expense. A lot of our new business fits into this category. The cycle starts with joint planning and then we enter into a sales MOU covering multiple phases of deployment. This gives both GDS and our customers a high degree of certainty. Once the customer has landed, there is little or no competition for the expansion orders. We currently have over 50,000 square meters of planned commitments in MOUs, which is not yet reflected in our bookings. BG16 is a 15 megawatt first-time deployment by a new cloud customer. They specifically require the capacity in downtown area of Beijing, where resource is scarce. Because customer is a relatively new cloud service provider, focused on government and SOEs. We have a great track record with cloud customers, which is important for winning new business. We have diversified our cloud customer bases and serve all the leading players. The cloud market is growing as strong as ever, and we are well positioned across the spectrum. CS2 is the 34th megawatt first-time deployment by a new large internet customer. It's at our Changshu campus in Changshu province. Over the past few years, we have seen an increasing number of opportunities like this, where large internet customers started to build their own IT platforms and also to data center operators. For orders of this size, they require edge-of-town locations with large-scale, low-cost, and low-latency connectivity to downtown. We are well positioned with this edge-of-town product and had a lot of success with customers. Despite the recent regulatory developments affecting internet companies, our sales pipeline has been very stable. Our backlog is safe and the trend is immaterial. Looking at the big picture, we saw the whole digital transformation in China, not just a few customers. The government is strongly committed to sustained economic growth enabled by technological innovation. We do not see any change in our long-term growth trajectory. The government has designated data centers as a new infrastructure. The industry receives strong government support. The National Development and Reform Commission, together with other central government agencies, recently published an important policy document setting out an overall vision for accelerated data center development in China. This was followed by a three-year action plan published by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. In these documents, the government recognizes the need for data centers to be physically located in tier one markets for low latency applications and in designated remote areas for non-real-time computing. They want to see high efficiency data centers. using more renewable energy. They want to promote data centers which are more technologically advanced, reliable, and secure. And they want to encourage Chinese data center companies to expand overseas. From our perspective, these policies are a natural continuation of the policy direction of the past few years. We feel that the GDS is already very well aligned with the government's objectives. At the same time, we think that the bar has been raised for the industry as a whole. It's created a much bigger challenge for small players with less expertise and resources. We very much welcome these policies, which we believe are good for the industry and good for us. We realized several years ago that as hyperscale demand took off, it could not be satisfied just in downtown locations. Supported by our customers, We were the first mover in edge of town locations. We have built good relationships with local governments and established a strong track record. These are critical success factors when it comes to securing more pipelines. As at mid-2021, we had successfully secured over 500,000 square meters of capacity held for future development, roughly 90% of which comes with power quota commitments. It's far more than any of our peers. As shown on the slide nine, in the Shanghai market, We have 28,000 square meters held for future development at the downtown sites, and close to 120,000 square meters held for future development at three edge of town sites in Jiangsu province, all of which have power code commitments. As shown on slide 10, the situation in Beijing market is quite similar. We have 14,000 square meters held for future development downtown and 133,000 square meters of secured pipeline in Longfang and other edge of town locations. While edge of town is driving our volume growth, our customers still look to us for help in securing downtown capacity. We approach this in a number of different ways, including by acquisitions. During the second quarter, we closed our previously announced Beijing 15, Tianjin 1, and Shenzhen 8 acquisitions. We also recently completed a new deal for over 10,000 square meters of capacity at an urban site in Beijing, which we call BJ 17, 18, and 19. This came with nearly 4,000 square meters of commitments from a new high-scale customer. The acquisition was done on a high single-digit multiple. The data science industry has attracted a number of new entrants. They are mostly local project companies. They compete at an entirely different level from us. They do not have any competitive advantages. Sometimes you see announcements, but then they do not move forward with their projects. You would be surprised how often we are approached about partnerships or acquisitions, while investors may see these project companies as increased competition. From our perspective, they are market consolidation opportunities. Our hyperscale customers use Hong Kong as a launchpad for their overseas business. We therefore view Hong Kong as an integral part of our regionalization strategy. We are currently developing two purpose-built data centers in the Kwai Chung area of Hong Kong, HK1 and HK2. Most of the capacity in these data centers has already been allocated to strategic customers, pending contracts. In order to build on this success, we have entered into a definitive agreement to purchase another nearby building, which we plan to redevelop as HK4. Given the real estate challenge in Hong Kong, It's a great achievement to put together three major projects in such close proximity. It creates a big operational benefit for our customers. We also signed a head of agreement for the lease of a building share, which will cost HK3. Altogether, this gives us a secure pipeline with nearly 80 megawatts of purpose-built capacity through to 2027 and beyond. Complementing our presence in Hong Kong, we recently entered into a definitive agreement to form a joint venture to acquire a brownfield site in Macau for redevelopment as a data center with nearly 20 megawatts of capacity. Real estate is a big challenge in Macau. and there is very little data center capacity. Our project is a groundbreaking move. We will be the only player who cover Hong Kong, Macau, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou. We recently announced The first concrete step in our Southeast Asia expansion with the acquisition of greenfield land in Nusa Jaya Tech Park in Johor, Malaysia. With the measurable capacity of 22,500 square meters or 54 megawatts. The site is ideally located to meet regional demand, as it's only a few kilometers from the Singapore border. Furthermore, it's right next door to Telecom Malaysia's main regional data center, which gives us an opportunity for collaboration as well as for leveraging their low latency network into Singapore and the rest of Malaysia. We received very positive feedback from our leading customers about this project. We aim to secure commitments for the first phase within the next couple of quarters. Beyond the whole, we are actively pursuing a number of other opportunities in and around Singapore, in Kuala Lumpur and in Jakarta. In all cases, the logic is to follow our whole market customer by extending our interconnected platform. echoing the government policy of supporting Chinese companies to go overseas. We have already identified over 200 megawatts of demand from Chinese customers in Southeast Asia within the next five years. In conclusion, the market opportunity for GDS in China is intact and our bookings are consistent. we are fully aligned with the government's policy objectives. New markets, regionalization, and consolidations are creating exciting new opportunities for us. We are not distracted from our mission and continue to execute our long-term business plan with great discipline. Thank you. Now we'll hand over to Dan for the financial and operating review.
spk07: Thank you, William. Starting on slide 16, where we strip out the contribution from equipment sales and the effect of FX changes. In 2Q21, our service revenue grew by 9.3%. Underlying adjusted gross profit grew by 8.5%. and underlying adjusted EBITDA grew by 9.8% quarter on quarter. Our underlying adjusted EBITDA margin was 48.1%. Turning to slide 17, revenue growth is driven mainly by delivery of the committed backlog and closing of acquisitions. Net additional area utilized during QQ21 was 29,000 square meters, including 15,000 square meters from the BJ15 acquisition. At mid-year, we are where we expected to be in terms of move-in. MSR declined 0.4% quarter on quarter in QQ21, to RMB 2416 per square meter per month. In the second half of this year, we expect MSR to be relatively flat. Looking further ahead, we do expect slight decline next year, mainly driven by edge of town capacity, where pricing and development costs are both lower. Turning to slide 18, Our underlying adjusted gross profit margin was 54% for 2Q21, a decrease of 0.4 percentage points quarter over quarter, as a large amount of new capacity came into service. For the same reason, our utilization rate also dropped slightly to 69%. Our underlying adjusted EBITDA margin was 48.1% for 2Q21, an increase of 0.2 percentage points quarter on quarter, mainly due to leverage on SG&A. As you can see on slide 19, we have a lot of data center capacity coming into service in the second half of the year. As a result, we expect some growth track. We also expect higher SG&A as a result of some of our corporate activities. Our underlying adjusted EBITDA margin in the second half will be slightly lower, but still in line with our guidance. Turning to slide 20, our CapEx for 2Q21 was RMB 4.8 billion. consisting of RMB 1.9 billion for organic capex and RMB 3 billion for acquisition consideration, mainly related to BJ15. At mid-2021, we had around RMB 1 billion on our balance sheet of deferred and continued consideration for acquisitions. Looking at our financing position on slide 21, we have RMB 12.3 billion or 1.9 billion US dollars of cash in our balance sheet. And our net debt to LQA adjusted EBITDA ratio increased to 4.3 times after paying for the Beijing 15 acquisition in the second quarter. During 2Q21, we completed debt financings with a total facility amount of 4.7 billion RMB. We continue to lower our financing cost This is best illustrated by looking at the refinancing portion, which accounted for RMB 2.7 billion. As shown on slide 22, the all-in cost for the refinancings came down from 6.7% for the original facilities to 4.6% for the new facilities. At the same time, we have significantly extended the tenors of these facilities which is visibly apparent in our improved debt maturity profile. We have a further RMB 2.1 billion of refinancing left to do as part of our plan for this year. Overall, we are in a good position in terms of the financial resources which we have already secured. Access to capital gives us competitive advantage. We are therefore looking at different structures such as partnerships, JVs, and funds to further diversify and enhance our access to capital in ways which are beneficial for all our shareholders. Turning to slide 23. As at mid-2021, we had a backlog of close to 198,000 square meters. it gives us high visibility to future growth. Assuming that we complete the existing projects, deliver the backlog, and sell out the remaining inventory, our revenue generating area would almost double from today's level. This is without initiating any new projects. The cost to complete the existing projects is RMB 10.7 billion. which is less than the cash on our balance sheet. As William mentioned at the beginning, our first half performance is in line with our expectations. We are therefore confirming our original guidance with respect to revenue adjusted EBITDA and CAPEX. We would now like to open the call to questions. Operator?
spk12: As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw a question, press the pound or hash key. For the benefit of all participants on today's call, please limit yourself to one question. If you have more questions, please re-enter the queue. Once again, it's star and the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Tina Hao of Goldman Sachs. Please ask your question.
spk03: Hi. Thank you for your time management. So my question is regarding the Jiangsu supply situation. So what is the current situation there in terms of the supply-demand? Also, are you seeing similar cases as what happened before? and what is the current pricing and return trends in Jiangsu? Also, is this potential oversupply happening anywhere else? Thank you.
spk06: Okay, thank you for your question. I say this is the question I try to address, right? When we talk about Jiangsu, we are talking the Shanghai market. It's a global data center market, one of the largest in the world. As you are well aware, supply in urban parts of Shanghai is limited. Therefore, the market has moved to the edge of town. We see some very big deal opportunities in Jiangsu with hyperscale customers. We have secured around 250 megawatts of supply. It is far more than any of our competitors. They would all love to have that. With high barriers to entry for new project approval and quota, secure supply is very valuable. Our supply is at the campus locations. There are three other data center players in the same general area, each of which has one campus location. Nobody builds on spec. There are no empty data centers already there. Everybody builds based on customer commitments. We are the only platform player in China. We have by far great market presence. We have customer relationships that span multiple data centers. When there is a new business opportunity, We can choose whether or not go for it. We do not have to win every piece of business because it is our only opportunity. We target returns across our portfolio and profitability across customer relationships. It would be meaningless to talk about the pricing for one particular deal. Our position in Langfang is even stronger than in Jiangsu. We do not see any major player in this same general area as us. We have one business from multiple hyperscale customers, which means that we have already landed them in Langfang. Then, do you want to add something more?
spk07: Yeah, I mean, if we talk more generally, you know, on a light-to-light basis, you know, returns have been quite well sustained. You know, as we commented quite a number of times before, we are transparent with our high-scale customers. You know, we give them a reasonable price, and we make a reasonable return. You know, they know our costs, right? It's been this way for several years already, it works well. It's a good dynamic.
spk01: Yeah. Yeah.
spk09: Next question.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of of Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question.
spk10: Thanks for the opportunity. I just have one question related with recent power quota allocation in Shanghai. We know that GDS, together with several other industry leading players, did not get power quota. Could you please share with us your thoughts behind the government's power quota allocation logic? Are they favoring SOE or favoring new entrants or favoring whoever pays more tax locally, whatever? Could what happened in Shanghai be repeated in other markets? Thank you.
spk06: Okay. Thanks, Liyang. I think this is the question you used to mention, right? So now I have the chance to answer your question directly. So the Shanghai government has taken an approach of annual quarter allocation for the past three years. It's not a new development. The Shanghai approach has not been adopted anywhere else in China. The government allocates small quotas to different players. As a result, there are no big winners. We do not believe that the Shanghai government is trying to engineer the competitive landscape. The allocation approach results in smaller data centers. a fragmented market and unproven operators, which does not reflect what many of our larger customers are looking for. We foresaw that most of the demand would go to edge of town. We put ourselves in a great position with our continuous secured supply in edge of town areas. The downtown piece is an add-on. We look at a different way of generating some downtown supply, including partnering and acquisitions. One way or other, we deal with the challenge. Thank you. Thank you.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of James Wang of UBS. Please ask your question.
spk05: Good evening, management. Thank you for your time today. Just a really quick one from me. My ones are on the recent cyber security review by the regulator in China, cyber-based administration of China. So the regulation specifically targets companies which are listed overseas. So as a U.S.-listed company using a VIE structure, Is that going to affect you and how?
spk07: Thank you. Let me be absolutely clear what we're talking about. The Cyber Security Administration of China recently issued a draft of new regulations on cybersecurity review for public comments. And these regulations are applicable to what they call operators of critical information infrastructure, CII operators, as well as other companies who are involved in processing data. Whether a data center company such as GDS is a CII operator remains to be determined by the relevant government authorities. If it is determined that GDS is a CII operator, then we would need to comply with a set of requirements to ensure data security. For us, this is not a concern, not a concern at all. It's part of our DNA to operate to the highest standards of security and reliability. We've implemented already the highest standards the physical and information security. Our business is about business continuity and we commit to SLAs around many of these factors. So these things which are important aspects or the requirements of the cybersecurity review are our everyday business. So far as we're aware, there have been no recent developments regarding VIEs. I think the issue of VIEs and cybersecurity, I think, kind of gets mixed up maybe because most of the Internet companies are VIEs. But the situation in our industry is a little bit different from the Internet because foreign ownership is not prohibited. Foreign ownership in our industry is just prohibited. restricted to 50 percent and you know that there have been there has been um some movement even yeah recently to further open up the data center industry to a higher level of foreign ownership but you know in just in in very specific zones meanwhile there's no foreign ownership restriction on real estate no foreign ownership restriction on plant and equipment so if you look at our corporate structure, we have around 90% of our assets held directly by GDS. and not through our VIE. I think this setup in terms of asset codes and op codes is actually quite common in our industry globally. Once again, I just emphasize this is quite a different situation from internet companies. We don't look like an internet company.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Hongzhi Li of CICC. Please ask your question.
spk02: Good evening, management. So can you give any color on the moving pace for the second half of this year? And do you see any slowdown in moving from the downstream customers, especially some public cloud firms' business may be impacted by the regulation from online education and gaming? Thank you.
spk07: We don't have any education customers. Let's say that we're not aware of our customers being impacted by regulatory developments in the internet sector. I mean, there are always operational factors which can lead to faster moving or slower moving. That's true at any time. As we said, the movement in the first half of this year was fully up to our expectations. A lot of data center capacity came into service in the second quarter, a lot more is coming into service in the third quarter. And if you follow our logic, this creates the condition for a higher level of move-in, although there does tend to be a time lag of a couple of quarters because not much happens immediately after a new debt is sent in. comes into service. But a higher level of movement is what we are expecting in the second half of the year. You said that we are on track with our guidance. Of course, our guidance is arranged. That covers potential variances. I mean, more than that, it's just too early to say.
spk06: In general, we still confirm our guidance. No doubt.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Colby Sinasel of Cohen. Please ask your question.
spk00: Great. Thank you. I guess I have two. You talked previously about potentially taking ownership up of your JVs with, I think, GIC. I'm just curious if there's an update on what you're thinking is there. And then you talked about various financing You talked about partnerships, JVs, and so forth. I'm just wondering if you can give us some additional color on, you know, what types of regions are you anticipating doing those? Are those in the Tier 1 or edge markets? Are those in the more, you know, rural-type areas? Or are those for even overseas, just trying to get a sense of where you're intending to potentially do some of those things? Thank you.
spk07: Thank you, Colby. The first question, we have just about reached agreement with our joint venture partner for the change in shareholding that we were looking for. in relation to specific of those BOT projects. I know it's been a long wait, but we will very likely disclose that in our next earning call. That will result in those projects being consolidated the balance of our investment and fee income will be a little different from how we originally envisaged it, but very acceptable to us in the current circumstances. About your second question, as you can imagine, there's quite a number of discussions going on now, so I can't talk more specifically. But I can comment thematically and say that what we're looking to do is to introduce private capital at It could be through a fund or through intermediate holding company, but could be directly into projects. And it could be several different structures with different partners. Some of it will be in Tier 1 markets. This is not a custom approach for BOT projects like we talked about before. This is a way of leveraging our capital with partners' capital in such a way that we're able to make our capital go further and enhance the return on our capital by trading global growth for the opportunity to earn fees. Eventually, we may look at doing this for special types of projects. We may look for doing this overseas as well. But initially, we're going to focus on doing this for our core business in China so that we can open up a channel to a very deep pool of capital possibly at a lower cost than we could achieve in the public equity markets, even in the best of times.
spk01: Yeah.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Edison Lee of Jefferies. Please ask your question.
spk11: Oh, hi, William and Dan. Thank you very much for giving me the chance to ask questions. Number one is simply on CapEx. I think you stick to the $12 billion RMB CapEx guidance for the full year. And in the first half, we did an acquisition in Beijing, and the CapEx for the first half was, I think, $3 billion, roughly $3 billion, according to your slides. I just want to know how much of the $12 billion for the full year will be spent on acquisition based on your current estimate. So that's the first question. Second question, very quickly, is about M&A opportunities in the market. Have you seen any change in the M&A market over the past, I would say, 2Q versus 1Q or versus 4Q last year, given the internet regulations and given, I think, the macroeconomic situation?
spk07: Thanks, Edison. I think if you look at our topics in the first half, and you take our organic CapEx in the first half and double it, you're going to get to around 12 billion, which was our full year CapEx guidance. We have announced today that we did another acquisition, which in fact is already closed during the current quarter, during the third quarter. The consideration for that was a few hundred million RMB, so you can take that as being included in the original guidance. About the acquisition scene. There's two different kinds of deals we're talking about. There's the, call it single site deal, which is happening all the time. And it's good pipeline. And then there's potentially larger deals, you can call them platform deals, but they're kind of mini platform deals compared with us. And What we were intimating in the prepared remarks is that we do get a sense that owners think the time is coming for in-market consolidation. Of course, GDS is positioned to be the consolidator. If you talk about multiples, we talk about competition, it's situation specific. Most of the deals, single site deals that we're doing, there's limited competition and we're doing it on single digit multiples, mid to high single digit multiples. But there are a few where there is more competition. But we're disciplined. And, you know, on the whole, we've been able to carry on doing this business, you know, without paying multiples that are higher than we typically did in the past.
spk06: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I can add on some, Carla, on this. We do see some practical players. We don't call them practical players. They are multi-asset players. Now considered to, there's a lot of, as I just mentioned, there's a lot of very frequently, recently we received a lot of approach to talk to, partner with us or merge with us or sell to us. I think this is something new than before. So I think given the time, that means this is a big opportunity for us to consolidate the market. I think we will see. We are very open to talk to them and if everything goes well and the timing is good or the price is good, we definitely will take action.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Gokul Hariharan of JP Morgan. Please ask your question.
spk08: Hi, William. Hi, Diane. Thanks for taking the question. Could you talk a little bit more in detail about how the competitive landscape has been, how the economics has been for the three large hyperscale orders that you won in the last quarter, roughly about 24k square meters and a fair bit of power capacity committed as well. How does the pricing look, and how does the competitive landscape look for these specific projects, if you could talk a little bit in detail?
spk07: William, do you want to answer that? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, we talked about the three hyperscale orders which we won, and I think we provided more commentary than we normally do, and we're happy to do that in future. I mean, the intention was to... It was to give investors a flavor for what the kind of opportunities are that we see and how we come to win them. The first one was a land and expand, meaning that we won that deal in effect quite some time ago when the customer first made a commitment. to deploy an availability zone, I believe it is, in our Langfam campus. When that was done, it was with an explicit plan reflected in the sales memorandum to expand in multiple phases in future years. And that business does not go out to open tender. You don't see it going through the market. You won't hear about it from our competitors. And you'd be surprised how much of our business is like that. William mentioned that we're sitting on MOUs which have future planned deployments of over 50,000 square meters, which is not yet contracted, so we don't disclose it. It's part of our bookings. But it's highly assured. to happen. And that number, by the way, could go up quite a bit between now and the year end because there are some new opportunities coming which are in that kind of land and expand category. So that's one part of our business where, of course, the initial deployment can be competitive, but the tendency is for customers to work very collaboratively on these because these are very strategic deployments for the customers. It's not just a question about publishing a request for proposal and conducting a tender. It's much more intimate and complex than that. The second deal that William talked about was a downtown Beijing deal. It's a cloud service provider. I think we have a tremendous edge in serving cloud service providers. We are a significant supplier, I think, to all the leading cloud service providers in China, and there's an advantage to cloud service providers to work with us because they benefit from being in close proximity to each other. It so happened that customer's requirement was very location-specific, and there was not much You know, that kind of deal, obviously, is also not very competitive.
spk06: Yeah, because, yeah, what I tried to say, this, like, this SOE craft, right, I think it's a dear more appreciated as a capability and, you know, track record and a service level commitment capability so i think it's a there's a they know they didn't go to go outside ask for a lot of business so this deal is very good and our profile gds as a operator our profile fully fits their criteria so i think the competition is very less And we went very, very straightforward and got a very good price.
spk07: And the third deal was the large deal. I mean, that was very strategic business. Our offering is clearly differentiated from any other data center company because of our platform, our market presence, our continuous supply. Customers appreciate that. They start maybe with a requirement which is quite straightforward, but we've seen again and again that their requirement gets more complicated, more complex, more challenging over time. It starts straightforward and then increasingly plays to our strengths. That's a cycle we've been through very many times, and that's really how we look at those. We target those opportunities because we know that's how we can grow the relationship.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Frank Leuven of Raymond James. Please ask your question.
spk01: Great, thank you. With the government's new stance on IT and the emphasis there, have you seen any shift in their allocation space in power? Can you give any other evidence of some tangible benefits of that policy beginning to benefit your business or to see evidence of the market growing or anything like that that's just a more tangible benefit to GDS?
spk07: I think it's kind of something that we and investors can take great, I think more than confident, but have a very positive feeling about is that it is very clear The government recognizes the importance of the data center industry. It's one of the seven categories of new infrastructure, which is essential to facilitate digital transformation. On the back of that, there's been a series of policy documents at the national level, at the local level. and setting out how the government will approach the allocation of resources to ensure a very healthy industry development. In these recent policy documents, it's very, I think, clearly expressed in terms of what the government's objectives are. what they want to see. And we feel that, I'd use the expression again, plays to our strengths because the government wants to see more technologically advanced data centers, more reliable, more secure, more green. more power efficient, better integrated with the supply chain, more technological innovation. The government is not trying to engineer the competitive landscape. That's not part of their That's not part of their thinking at all. But I think what they will do is ensure that sufficient resource is allocated to the data center to enable data centers in Tier 1 markets and in other locations are not a bottleneck to digital transformation, that there is sufficient capacity to support ambitious targets for digital transformation.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Joel Ying of Nomura. Please ask your question.
spk09: Thank you for the opportunities. So actually I have one question about, you know, the policy potential concern or risk regarding the things happening in the past few months. Can you actually think about is there any, you know, kind of a new industry regulations for the data center, very quickly potentially from government or are there any, you know, aspects that government has flagged out and are potentially concerned for the industry. Thank you.
spk06: Okay, thank you. I will answer your question. Yeah, I mean, as you guys know, the data center industry in China has been around for almost 25 years. The industry is regulated as part of telecom value added service. Regulation is very well-developed and effective. China has been fully compliant, as I mentioned, just as Dan mentioned, right? So this situation is not like some of the vertical which emerged in recent years and where the regulation is catching up. So this is the current situation.
spk12: Your next question comes from the line of Tina Hao of Goldman Sachs. Please ask your question.
spk03: Hi. Thank you very much for a second round. So I have a few follow-up questions. The first one is that in terms of demand, do management still maintain your sales guidance of around 120 square meter of sales for the next three years? Yes.
spk06: yes okay great thank you yes yes um yeah i hear the reason why i think because the the whole uh uh digitalization i mean it's a global trend and it's also the central government strategy to drive the economic growth right this is not this never changed and on the other hand i mean uh uh No, we didn't see any regression impact the market demand. On the other hand, GDS already well positioned our, because we have the largest install-based customer, cover the whole industry vertical. So we are well positioned to catch up with the future growth. So again, I would say we are confident to maintain this growth in the next three, even five years, right?
spk03: Right. Thank you very much.
spk12: Due to time limit, I'd like to now turn the call back over to the company for closing remarks.
spk04: Thank you all once again for joining us today. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact GDS Investor Relations through our contact information on our website or Piazzonti Group Investor Relations. Bye. See you next time.
spk12: This concludes this conference call. You may now disconnect your line. Thank you.
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