Hologic, Inc.

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Hologic's fourth quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. My name is Shelly, and I am your operator for today's call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute. I would now like to introduce Ryan Simon, Vice President, Investor Relations, to begin the call.

Thank you, Shelly. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining Hologic's fourth quarter fiscal 2024 earnings call. With me today are Steve McMillan, the company's chairman, president, and chief executive officer, Essex Mitchell, our chief operating officer, and Carlene Overton, our chief financial officer. Our fourth quarter press release is available now on the investor section of our website. We will also post our prepared remarks to our website shortly after we deliver them. And a replay of this call will be available on our website for the next 30 days. Before we begin, we would like to inform you that certain statements we make today will be forward-looking. These statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied. Such factors include those referenced in the Safe Harbor Statement included in our earnings release and SEC filings. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation to GAAP can be found in our earnings release. Two of these non-GAAP measures are one, organic revenue, which we define as revenue excluding divested businesses and revenue from acquired businesses owned by Hologic for less than one year. And two, organic revenue excluding COVID-19, which further excludes COVID-19 assay revenue other revenue related to COVID-19, and sales from discontinued products in diagnostics. Finally, any percentage changes we discuss will be on a year-over-year basis, and revenue growth rates will be in constant currency unless otherwise noted. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve McMillan, Hologic CEO. Thank you, Ryan, and good afternoon, everyone.

We are pleased to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. Total revenue was $987.9 million, and non-GAAP earnings per share were $1.01. We closed the fiscal year with another solid quarter, with revenue above the high end of our previous guidance range and EPS at the midpoint. Our fourth quarter results underscore the durable growth of our business and our ability to consistently deliver. For the full fiscal year 2024, we posted $4.03 billion in revenue and non-GAAP EPS of $4.08. Before discussing our themes for today, we'd like to first reflect on the fiscal year we just completed. In 2024, we made great progress strengthening and growing our business. By leveraging our leading brands, we drove diverse revenue growth and delivered industry-leading margins, all while generating exceptional cash flow. This enabled us to achieve broad-based growth and expand our end markets, thanks to our intense focus on workflow automation and identifying opportunities for better solutions. At the same time, we executed our M&A strategy effectively while delivering differentiated solutions for our customers, and further solidifying our durable competitive advantage as champions of women's health. We also continue to make progress and are still in the early innings of the large international opportunity that lies ahead. Going a level deeper, we have four highlights to share that reflect our progress. For the full year, our molecular diagnostics business grew 9%, excluding COVID, continuing its strong growth. These results should put to rest any concerns regarding Panther utilization in a post-COVID environment. Two, in breast imaging, we maintained our market-leading position while effectively navigating through the impact of the global semiconductor chip shortage. Three, from an operating margin perspective, we finished the year at 30%, maintaining profitability in the top tier of our peer group with opportunities for further improvement in 2025. Regarding our M&A strategy, four, we have been patient, disciplined, and notably more active recently, as opportunities we've been cultivating have become actionable. More specifically, we acquired Endomagnetics in July and signed a definitive agreement in October to acquire Gynasonics. Both are tuck-in deals that are straight down the fairway as it relates to our M&A strategy and fit nicely into our global portfolio. we are the right partner to maximize these business opportunities, helping to benefit more women with the innovative products from these deals. From a broader capital allocation perspective, in 2024, we fully funded key organic initiatives and continued to reduce our share count. Additionally, as part of our release today, we announced our intention to launch a new $250 million accelerated share repurchase program. Overall, we have the ability to consistently deliver value to our shareholders through solid top-line growth, operating and net margin expansion, and strong cash generation and deployment. Now moving to our two themes for our call. One, reinforcing who we are and how we got here, and two, shedding more light on where we are today and where we're headed in 2025 and beyond. As we've said before, Hologic is a company you can count on. Over the past 10 years, our non-GAAP EPS compound annual growth rate is over 10%. a meaningful achievement. Despite changing markets and unexpected macro conditions over the years, we have consistently delivered. Looking ahead, there will be ups and downs, challenges and headwinds, but we expect to deliver as we have over the past decade. Since joining Hologic in 2013, we have dramatically transformed our business, through two important phases. First, we steadied the ship and firmly rooted our leadership brands across our three main franchises, diagnostics, breast health, and surgical. Second, during the COVID pandemic, we added several growth drivers across each of our franchises, both organically and through acquisitions. Today, We have industry-leading platforms in each franchise and some of the strongest commercial channels in healthcare. The common theme across these two phases of transformation is our ability to create markets, establish market-leading positions, and drive growth by generating new opportunities. Looking back, products such as the Panther, Horizon DEXA, Our ThinPrep liquid-based pap test, 3D mammography, NovoSure, and MyoSure all represented improvements on the standard of care and therefore new markets at the time of their introduction. These trailblazing product lines generated new opportunities, which we continue to capitalize on today. Building on our foundation, products such as the PantherFusion Breast Cancer Index, Genius Digital Cytology, AI in Mammography, Fluent, and Assessa leverage our established core businesses and enable more growth through market creating innovation. That said, as an organization, we are never satisfied and consistently aim to create new essential innovations to make the best even better. Our culture and leadership have never been stronger as we continue to make a profound impact on women's health globally. Looking ahead to fiscal 2025, we are excited about our durable revenue base, diverse mix of growth drivers, including our latest addition in endomagnetics, and the opportunity to further strengthen our new product pipeline through organic and inorganic opportunities. We anticipate 2025 to be another year we deliver on our commitments, position Hologic, positioning Hologic, for even greater long-term success.

Now, I will pass the call over to Essex. Thank you, Steve. Good afternoon, everyone. In my remarks, I will highlight where we are as a business today, including divisional level revenue performance, and share insights into where we are headed. As Steve discussed, our success transforming Hologic has been underpinned by our ability to excel as market creators. Over time, our products and solutions become integral to our customers' operations. Across our franchises, we provide solutions that enhance our customer success by incorporating industry-leading workflow automations. As our products significantly improve our customers' operational efficiency, we are more than just a supplier. We've become a partner. Today, our portfolio includes several new products with considerable potential. These products span our franchises and geographies, creating multiple layers of sustainable future growth. Coupled with our strong balance sheet, we have the firepower to add new growth drivers both organically and inorganically. We are confident that our robust portfolio, along with future additions, will enable us to grow sustainably and navigate the evolving market landscape with agility and resilience. Now shifting gears to our divisional revenue results for the fourth quarter. In diagnostics, fourth quarter global revenue of $443.3 million grew 6.2% and 9.2% organically, excluding COVID. Molecular diagnostics remained a pillar of strength for the division, growing 9.1% and 13.2% excluding COVID. Molecular performance continues to be powered by our BVCV-TV assay and biotheranostics business, both of which have runway for future growth The division's respiratory four-plex COVID flu AB RSV assay also contributed growth for the quarter. For the full year, Molecular posted excellent global growth of 9% ex-COVID. This performance was again driven by BVCV-TV as we continue to grow this market, moving testing for vaginitis to our FDA-approved assays on our highly automated high-throughput Panther system. In addition, we continue to see a creative growth from our biotheranostics business as we drive adoption and expand coverage for the breast cancer index test. And finally, we are expanding the global footprint of our Panther fusion system, allowing us to meet the need for high-throughput molecular diagnostic respiratory testing while also setting us up nicely as we build additional menu on the platform. Shifting to cytology and our perinatal business within diagnostics, we posted 0.7% growth in our fourth quarter. Since the FDA approval of our Genius Digital diagnostic system for digital pap tests, we've worked closely with our early adopting customers, and they've given us great positive feedback on the system. This platform represents a significant improvement to the current PapTest workflows. It combines AI and advanced digital imaging to provide customers more sensitive disease detection and a streamlined efficiency, a digital AI-assisted PapTest. We are proud to announce that our first US Genius Digital Diagnostic customers went live in the fourth quarter. This milestone is yet another example of Hologic understanding the needs of our customers and responding to changing market dynamics with essential innovation. Turning to breast health, total fourth quarter revenue of $375.5 million increased 6.2% or 5.3% organically when excluding SSI and endomagnetic. Organic growth in the fourth quarter was primarily driven by increased breast imaging service revenue along with contributions from our gantry business and interventional products. In surgical, fourth quarter revenue of $156.5 million increased 5.4% compared to the prior year. The period's growth was once again led by core Myoshore and the platform's complementary Fluent Fluid Management System, helping to offset declines in our legacy domestic NovaShore business. In addition, our international surgical business continues to drive strong, broad-based performance as we expand access to our technologies into new markets. And finally, in our scalable business, fourth quarter revenue of $12.7 million decreased 54.9%. This result was expected based on the Horizon DEXA stop ship we announced on our third quarter earnings call. As a reminder, this is a temporary headwind and we expect to resume shipping in the back half of our first quarter. Moving next to where we're headed, I'll first comment on our international business and close with comments on our M&A strategy. From an international perspective, Our efforts to expand globally have been broadly successful. Our international business is nearly 50% larger compared to 2019, with an accretive annual revenue growth. That said, the full potential of our international business remains largely untapped. While we have taken key steps and are more direct in international markets than ever before, there is a vast international opportunity available to us that we are still in the early stages of realizing. Over a multi-year horizon, we see meaningful growth prospects for our international business as we continue to penetrate new regions and enhance our presence in existing ones. By leveraging our innovative products and strong brand reputation, we are well positioned to capture emerging markets which we expect to be accretive to total company growth rates for years to come. Shifting now to M&A, it should come as no surprise that a combination of organic and inorganic innovation will add fuel for our future growth. Our M&A strategy continues to focus on pursuing tuck-in deals that align with our three franchises. We aim to identify and acquire assets that leverage our existing strengths, drive top line growth, and add accretion to earnings over time. Going deeper, we prioritize assets that nicely fit into our current market segments or near adjacent markets. We target strategic and high growth areas across our franchises to enhance our current market position and to build global durable growth portfolio. In summary, our M&A strategy is designed to identify and integrate valuable assets that drive incremental growth, reinforce our market leadership, and deliver sustained value to our shareholders. By maintaining focus on our core markets, exploring adjacent opportunities, and driving essential innovation, We believe we are well positioned to navigate 2025 and the years ahead. With that, I'll hand the call over to Carlene.

Thank you, Essex, and good afternoon, everyone. In my comments today, we will begin with an overview of our solid fourth quarter and full year financial results, providing more color on margin and capital deployment. In closing, we will finish with our fiscal 2025 guidance for Q1 in the full year. We are pleased to close fiscal 2024 by continuing to meet or exceed our commitments on both the top and bottom line. In our fourth quarter, total revenue was $987.9 million, growing 4.2% over the prior year period. and 5% organically, excluding COVID. In addition, our Q4 non-GAAP earnings per share were $1.01, growing 13.5%. For the full fiscal 2024, total revenue was $4.03 billion, declining 0.2%, while growing 5.3%, organically, excluding COVID. and non-GAAP earnings per share were $4.08, growing 3%. Given the revenue headwind of the skeletal stock shift in Q4, we view these results as solid. More notably, for the second quarter in a row, we returned to top-line growth for our total business, as we continue to bend the revenue curve in a positive direction. Before moving on to the income statement, we'd like to highlight the continued strength of our balance sheet, as well as our commitment to our capital allocation strategy. In fiscal 2024, we pulled both levers of our capital allocation strategy by completing a revenue-accretive tuck-in M&A deal in endomagnetics, while also repurchasing 11.2 million shares for $808 million. which includes a $500 million ASR completed in the second quarter. Over the course of fiscal 2024, we reduced our diluted share count by over 10 million shares, demonstrating our commitment to leveraging our strong balance sheet and cash flow to manage our share count and deliver EPS growth. Starting off 2025, as Steve mentioned, We remain confident in our business. We continue to leverage our ability to repurchase shares with the announcement of our intention to enter into a new $250 million ASR. With our strong operating cash flow, we are in an excellent position to continue funding our priority organic investments as well as our capital allocation strategy. We exited the year with over $2.4 billion in cash and investments on the balance sheet, and we'll continue to pursue growth opportunities in fiscal 2025. As mentioned earlier on this call, we are off to a great start by signing a definitive agreement in October to acquire Gynasonics. We anticipate closing this deal in the first half of calendar 2025. Now onto the non-GAAP P&L for the fourth quarter, starting at gross margin. In Q4, gross margin increased to 61.5%, up 110 basis points year-over-year, driven by broad-based domestic revenue growth. We are pleased with this performance, having achieved steady expansion throughout the year while overcoming several headwinds, including the amortization of high-cost inventory of semiconductor chips and the headwind from the skeletal stop ship. Moving down to P&L, fourth quarter operating expenses of $311 million increased approximately 2.4%. This increase was primarily driven by the inclusion of endomagnetics in our fourth quarter results. as well as stronger local currencies in our international business. Excluding the impact of endomagnetics and FX, our operating expenses were approximately flat compared to the prior year. Altogether, fourth quarter operating margins finished at 30% and net margin was 24%, both representing a modest increase over the prior year. Below operating income, Other income net represented a loss in our fiscal fourth quarter of slightly less than $1 million, better than previously anticipated due to lower net interest expense. Finally, our tax rate in Q4 was 19.75% as expected. Now let's move on to our non-GAAP financial guidance for the first quarter and full fiscal year of 2025. In the first quarter of fiscal 2025, we are expecting total revenue in the range of $1.025 to $1.035 billion and EPS of $1 to $1.03. For the full year 2025, our guidance assumes revenue of $4.15 billion to $4.20 billion an EPS of $4.25 to $4.35. To help with constant currency modeling, we are assuming a foreign exchange tailwind of slightly less than $10 million for Q1 and $30 million for the full year. Our guidance assumes the recent trend of strengthening local currencies in our international markets continues in fiscal 25. Overall, for the full fiscal year, our guidance assumes organic ex-COVID growth of approximately 4% at the midpoint. We expect revenue growth to build throughout the year. In Q1, we will be impacted by several transitory headwinds, such as the stop ship in our skeletal business, as well as strong prior year comparisons in breast health and surgical. We are also planning conservatively around the respiratory season and the residual impact from recent hurricanes, including the saline IV fluid shortage that we anticipate will be a headwind to our more elective breast and surgical procedures. Now moving on to assumptions underlying our revenue guidance at the division level. For core diagnostics, we expect mid-single digit growth for the full year. driven by our BVCV-TV assay and the ongoing adoption of our biotheranostics BCI test. Further, as Essex mentioned, we successfully launched Genius Digital Cytology in the U.S. during the fourth quarter. We are excited to continue this rollout and the growth opportunity it represents. Regarding COVID and respiratory assay assumptions, Given the inherent variability of the respiratory season, we continue to plan conservatively for both, while maintaining capacity to aggressively meet any surges in demand. In addition, fiscal 2024 saw COVID revenue transitioning to our four-plex respiratory assay in our base molecular business. In 2025, we anticipate lasting the benefit of this conversion. In terms of COVID revenue, we expect COVID assay sales to be about $10 million in the first quarter and approximately $25 million for the full year. COVID-related items are expected to be about $24 million in the first quarter and approximately $95 million for the full year. Closing out our diagnostics business, we expect blood screening revenue of about $5 million in Q1 and about $20 million for the full year. Turning to breast health, over the past two fiscal years, we experienced elevated growth rates as we gradually recovered from the global chip shortage. Moving past this dynamic in fiscal 2025, we expect the gantry business within breast health to return to more normal growth ahead of our anticipated next-generation gantry launch. In our interventional breast segment, we expect continued strong performance from our portfolio of disposable needles and markers, though partially offset by recent withdrawal of Bioabsorb products from the market. Lastly, in surgical, we expect broad-based progress across our portfolio to offset anticipated domestic NovaShore declines. We also foresee strong international surgical growth in fiscal 25, driven by deeper market access and market penetration opportunities. Moving next to margins, our fiscal 25 guidance assumes both gross margin and operating margin expansion, highlighting our strong operational discipline and commitment to shareholder value. Thus, we expect Q1 gross margins around 60%, and expect improvement of roughly 50 basis points over the course of the year. Additionally, we expect Q1 operating margins around 30%, with an expected increase of 50 to 100 basis points throughout the year. We are in a standing position given the current macro environment. Working down the P&L, we expect Q1 to represent our highest quarter of operating expense in fiscal 25. This is due to normal seasonal expenses, including larger marketing campaigns, as well as sales and trade meetings. For the balance of the year, we anticipate quarterly operating expense to represent a modest increase over fiscal 24, as we include the addition of endomagnetics business into our fiscal 25 guidance. For low operating income, we estimate fiscal 25 other income net to meet an expense of approximately $10 to $15 million in Q1, and an expense between $50 and $60 million for the full year. Our guidance is based on an annual effective tax rate of approximately 19.5%, and diluted shares outstanding are expected to be approximately $235 million for the full year. To conclude, our solid fourth quarter completes another successful year for Hologic, As always, our focus remains on advancing women's health globally and delivering durable, long-term results. Entering fiscal 25, we are excited about the opportunities ahead. With that, we ask the operator to open the call for questions.

Thank you. And if you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing Store 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, you can press star one to ask a question. We do ask that you would ask one question with a follow-up question. And again, press star one on your phone to ask a question. We'll pause for a brief moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. And our first question is coming from the line of Patrick Donnelly with Citi.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Carlene, maybe to start where you finished it. Hey, Steve, how are you? Just on the margins, Carlene, can you talk through how to think about the year? Obviously, a lot of folks were anchored to kind of the 31.5% for the year. I know there was a lot of focus as COVID finally gets cleaned up, land on that number. Can you talk about the moving pieces on the margin front for the year and kind of where we should be thinking about the year and then the expansion potential off of this as well?

Yeah. So you're talking about fiscal 25, Patrick, moving forward?

Yes, correct.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think we talked about certainly some headwinds in the first half of the year that we think those are transitory in nature. And certainly when we talked about the IV fluid shortage impacting surgical you know, our most profitable business. That gives you some of the first half challenges that we think are, again, transitory and we'll work through those over the course of the year. I think as we also think about the year, we've talked about network optimization opportunities that have been underway. We'll start to see more of a benefit from those as we exit the fiscal year. So those are some of the key items that we look to over the course of the year. And again, if you look at the full year revenue guidance, 4% at the midpoint for the full year. Lower than that, certainly in Q1 as we start off, that gives you a sense of accelerated revenue growth in the back year that's going to help that margin expansion at the end of the year.

Okay, that's helpful. And then, Steve, maybe just on the breast health business, can you talk about the outlook for the year? It sounds like maybe a new launch looming here on the gantry side. How to think about, you know, there's always risk of maybe a little bit of a pause before that or a replacement cycle on the back of it. So maybe just frame up how to think about breast health with some new products coming and what the growth could look like there. Thank you, guys.

Yeah, thanks, Patrick. I think, you know, the reality of the new gantry is it's going to be more impacted in kind of 26, 27, 28 revenue. We are in that year prior to the launch that it might be a touch slower on pure gantries. The flip side is, as our service business, as the interventional business, and particularly things like Endomag coming through, it's the magic of continuing to deliver. So probably be a little bit lower than the last couple of years, as Carlene mentioned, but still very solid, and we still feel really good about the existing gantries and the customers we still have to go, but probably just a little bit lower than last year before it re-accelerates.

Our next question is coming from Jack Meehan with Nephron Research.

Hello, Jack. Thank you. Hello, Steve.

Go birds. Yes. Had a couple of diagnostic questions.

A little more conservatively than Sirianni, just for the record. I'm sorry.

Yes. Go ahead. No backwards leaps over players here. Okay. Okay, first question. Now that it is the end of the year, I was wondering, you know, it sounds like biotheranostics, BV, CVTV, you know, two of the key growth drivers here. Could you just give us a mark-to-market, you know, for the year ballpark of what the sales were, and then what your view is on kind of how much the level of growth we should expect in 2025? Okay.

Yeah, so I would say a couple of points on BBCV. I think we've talked about that as approximately our second largest assay, so it's going to be several hundred million dollars in revenue. Biotheranostics is not at that level. It's probably closer to the $100 million plus level. I would think about those as BBCV, a very strong double-digit grower in 24, will continue to grow double digits in 25, probably at a little lesser rate given the increasing base And biotheranostics, a solid double-digit growth in 24, and we expect similar in 25.

Great. And then, Carlene, you also talked about the transition you saw this year to the respiratory panel. Just trying to read through the lines, it sounds like you're expecting at least your initial assumption is that declines this year. Any chance you could give us a ballpark? what that sales contribution was in 2024 and just assumptions there? Thanks.

Yeah, I mean, it was definitely in the several tens of millions of dollars for the fourplex assay. And so I think at this point, again, that was a transition from COVID revenue to this product. And so I think we don't expect another transition year, if you will. So that's why it's a little bit of a headwind here. as we think about the first half of 25.

Thanks, Jack.

Our next question is coming from Anthony Patron with Mizuho Group.

Thanks, and congrats on the quarter here. Maybe one on breast health and one on gynesonics, the acquisition announced a couple of weeks ago. On breast health, just in terms of gantry rollout, post-RSNA, and we think about next fiscal year, you know, should we be thinking that, you know, sort of the, you know, 2014 to 27 sort of installs from the 3D tonal synthesis initial product cycle, those would be up for renewal beginning next year? Or is there a bigger portion of that install base that potentially is eligible for an upgrade? And then just on gynasonics, the Sonata system, Maybe just a little bit on how many systems are already out there in the marketplace and just synergies with the existing GYN surgical portfolio. Thanks.

Yeah, on the breast health piece, I would think it's going to be a rolling. I wouldn't expect some big bolus of the 2014 to 2017 all coming due. I think we're going to be phasing it out and, frankly, again, looking for more durable growth. then the quick bolus of uptake. And then on Gynesonics.

Yeah, I can answer the Gynesonics question. So first, we won't go into too many details on install base or anything like that until we actually close. But what I will say is that we believe this really complements our portfolio and really aligns with what our surgical team is doing every day. So the same customers doing the same type of procedures that are historically hysteroscopic or transcervical, which really aligns where our strength is at. So excited about it. We'll have a little bit more information once we close.

I appreciate that.

Thank you. Thanks.

Our next question is coming from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Steve, sorry if I missed the first part of the call. When I look at the guidance here, 3.4 to 4.7 XX COVID, I guess, how do you make the bridge to the LRP of 5 to 7? Is Skeletal still a headwind here in fiscal 25? Anything else that we need to be aware of to... draw the bridge from your current guide to the 5 to 7?

Yes, so what you missed, Vijay, is talking about what we call transitory headwinds that we're experiencing here in, let's say, Q1 and potentially into Q2. Both the skeletal, again, that we, in our prepared mark, said we'd start shipping that at the latter half of Q1, so it's definitely a headwind here. And then we talked about being conservative on our respiratory products, again, given the seasonality of flu. And then finally, the IV fluid shortages that is the result of the hurricanes. We do anticipate that this is going to be a headwind for our surgical and breast businesses that need those fluids here in Q1, and it could creep into Q2. So if you take all those as transitory headwinds for the first half, You look at the midpoint of our guide for the full year, that 4%, much lower growth rate here in Q1, that gives you a sense that the back half is going to have accelerated growth on the revenue.

Understood. Steve, maybe on this IV flu shortage, none of the other medtech companies have called this out. I'm curious, are you seeing something now, or is this more of a modern assumption? Thank you. Yeah.

I think a few have mentioned it, and I think the other piece is Canada. I'd remind you, we were the first ones that called out the chip shortage. We've been the first to call out a lot of things, Vijay, as you well know, because we're very close to the business. And we are seeing little pockets. I think the other part is our surgical business is very highly elective. And so part of what is happening is clearly Baxter is prioritizing, or hospitals are prioritizing the emergency and non-elective procedures. So we expect we probably do have a slight more, you know, short-term, clearly transitory impact. And again, nothing lurking beyond that as soon as we come bouncing back. And we'll probably be, you know, frankly, could be a headwind that could turn into a tailwind. But we always want to be conservative going into starting the year.

Yeah, Vijay, I would say at least three to four other med tech companies have called it out specifically. So we're not alone in this.

Our next question is coming from Ben Leonard with UBS.

Thank you. This is Lou on for Dan. Just wanted to, going back to the transitory headwinds, is it possible to kind of, like, quantify, like, what's the magnitude in the shortages and then what is in the kind of, like, conservatism in the respiratory very new? Just any more colors, that would be great.

Yeah, I mean, we haven't quantified it specifically. I think we've talked about the skeletal stop ship is roughly $5 million a month. We talked about returning to shipment in the back half, so that gives you a sense of what that could be. Certainly, conservatism in the respiratory could be in a range of at least $10 to $20 million. On the IV fluid, I think that's still evolving, and we really don't have a sense of that quite yet.

Okay. Got it. And then I wanted to touch a little bit on the share repo that you mentioned, the 250. Is that going to happen entirely in one quarter, or is that like a year or multi-year program?

Yeah, we expect we're going to kick that off in the next couple weeks here, and it should finish within our fiscal second quarter. So we'll have a prorated benefit, if you will, within the fiscal 2025 full year.

Our next question is coming from Casey Woodring with JP Morgan.

Hi, great. Thanks for taking my questions. I was curious if you could break out the 1Q guide by business segment just to help us understand the growth acceleration expected over the course of the year between segments. And then also, I'm curious what you're expecting in terms of international business growth versus domestic sales in 25 and what the outlook is across the different businesses internationally.

Yeah, I mean, we haven't provided the specific detail, but if you think about, we talked about those transitory headwinds, least impact probably in diagnostics. So you think about diagnostics is in the mid-single-digit growth for the first quarter, and you have the other businesses below that.

And then just internationally as well, how you're thinking about that?

Yeah. We expect international to grow at a faster rate than our domestic business. Got it. Okay.

And then just maybe if I can fit in one quick last one. So, you know, you talked about leveraging, you know, some supply chain costs moving around to give you some tax benefit. Just wondering if there's anything baked in there from a supply chain perspective, that 19.5% tax rate for 25, or if there's some upside to that number. Thank you.

Yes, Casey, I would remind you that the 19.5 is lower than fiscal 24. We're taking it down 25 basis points, primarily related to limiting some of our foreign losses that weren't deductible. And, of course, we're always looking at other supply chain opportunities or business opportunities to drive the rate, but I wouldn't say that we're ready to commit to anything lower than the 19.5 that's already lower than 24. Steady progress.

Our next question is coming from Mike Madsen with Needham & Company.

Yeah, thanks. So I want to ask one on the surgical business. So NovoShirt sounds like it's declining in the U.S. So can you talk about why and whether or not that's something that can be stabilized and maybe even return to growth, or is it going to be a perpetual decline?

Yeah, what I would say is that for a number of years, the volumes of global endometrial abrasion across the market have been a slow decliner. We've continued to maintain our market share and do well in the space, but we do see alternatives versus competitors become more prevalent, such as IUDs and other things to control hormonal abnormal uterine bleeding. So as of right now, we do expect that to continue on a slow decline. Feel great about our ability to continue to grow internationally, which is expanding and has a nice growth rate with NovaShore. So expecting all in to still put up market-leading results, but we do see it declining in the U.S.

Okay, got it. And then just another one on the Gynasonics deal. I understand it hasn't closed, so I don't know if you can or willing or able to answer this but i guess you know it looks like it's for fibroids similar to myosure so i guess why won't why isn't this something that will cannibalize myosure to some degree is it used for you know different patients or different types of fibroids or something like that is that why it won't work yeah it sounds like you're right on it um it is for different fibroids so we have uh large fibroids on the outside and in the wall of the uterus with the sessa

small polyps, and it's only up to type 2 fibroids with MyoShore. There are six different types of fibroids. Gynasonic, so the Sonata system, fills the gap in between both Assessa and MyoShore. So it is attacking a different type of fibroid using a different technology than MyoShore.

Our next question is coming from Navan Tai with BNP Paribas.

Hi, thank you for taking my question. I have one on M&A. If you could discuss recent M&A environment in Hologix 3 segments and maybe more broadly your capital allocation priorities in 2025. Thank you.

Yeah, I would say that, you know, at Hologic, you know, M&A is within each division, so each division has their own business development teams that are out there identifying assets, cultivating relationships, and hopefully we're able to acquire assets, you know, before they jump into a process. And hopefully assets that, you know, we're kind of the rightful owner of. And so I'd say there's no priority between divisions at this time. It's really about what is the best deal for Hologic. And I think we gave some examples on how endomagnetics and gynasonics fit nicely into our current portfolio. We bring a point of expertise. And I would say as we look to 2025, I think it's probably more of the same of what we saw in 24, a balance of M&A and share repurchase is what we're looking to do.

Thank you.

Our next question is coming from Michael Ryskin with Bank of America.

Hello. This is John on for Michael. I wanted to ask about the Panthers. What I believe is one of your manufacturing partners recently missed their results and was wondering if that has something to do with how the Panther placements are going. I know that... utilization and then the assay menu expansion is the way to the growth. And I'm sure the level of placement is far different from what it used to be pre-pandemic. So I wanted to ask how that's been trending.

Yeah, absolutely. I think this is something we've talked about for the last couple of years. We have an installed base of over 3,300 panthers worldwide, which is significantly higher than than what we had prior to the pandemic. And we had obviously an accelerated placement of Panthers during that time. And as we expected, those placements have slowed, but no impact on the growth of the business. As we said, molecular diagnostics, excluding COVID, grew 9% in fiscal 24, many years after the end of the, you know, post the pandemic. So continued strength with that business.

Gotcha. Then in terms, yep. Go ahead, please. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. Oh, well, I mean, if you wanted to give me more color, I would have taken that.

As you know, Michael, and, you know, some people I think sometimes forget is we make all of the revenue on the assays, not on Panthers. So I know that we've gotten some questions from investors that are thinking, gee, if we sell less Panthers, is that showing a downturn? But as you know, it's a reagent rental model. So frankly, right now, the next few years are largely driving that assay adoption without having to even place a lot of panthers, which is even better on the CapEx side. So it's a very good story for us.

Got it. And yeah, and on that related note, any update to the statistics you provided in the past about 55 users having using two or more assays and a third having four or more?

We haven't provided an update to that. And just in general, I would say that those trends continue to improve, move in the right direction.

Our next question is coming from Mason Carrico with Stevens.

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. This is Harrison on for Mason. It looks like, so last quarter, I believe you talked about some facility integrations within the breast health business. Could you maybe talk a little bit about the cadence or timeline of how those integrations will play out this year and then the margin impact as we progress through the year? Thanks.

Yeah, we expect that migration to be completed over the course of 25 years. which is great not only from manufacturing, but also R&D will be seated there and some great synergies with the R&D teams. But we haven't provided specific improvements, but it is part of the improvement we will see over the course of the year.

Got it. Yep, sounds great. And then so within breast health, have we largely moved past the high – the higher cost of chips at this point? Are we at a more normalized level, you know, heading into 25, or is there still a drag on margin earlier in the year relative to the back half? Thanks.

Yeah, we're probably on the tail end of that. You know, there wasn't just one chip. There was, you know, many, many different chips that had the issue, so there could be still a few, you know, working their way through the system, but, you know, I think as we go through 25, we will

Our next question is coming from Tejas Savant with Morgan Stanley.

Hi, this is Jason for Tejas. Thank you for taking our questions. Just a few modeling-related questions. In skeletal health, you expect the supply chain issue to be resolved by the end of F1Q. So how much of any of these sort of $15 million per quarter that are lost can we expect to be recouped in fiscal year 2025 on top of the base sales expectations? And then on Bioabsorb, could you quantify the financial impact from removing this product for fiscal year 2025? Thank you.

Yeah, the Bioabsorb impact is de minimis, really. You know, it was a revenue line item that was, you know, less than, less than $10 million in 24, so pretty de minimis. And I think on the skeletal, I think what we're really focused on is getting this back on the market and satisfying our customer demand. I wouldn't project right now that there'll be some level of pickup. Again, we need to get it back to shipping status here in the first quarter.

Our next question is coming from Connor McNamara. with RBC Capital Markets.

Jose Ricardo Moreno for Connor.

Thank you for taking the question. I had a question about as normal growth returns to the gantry business, how does that coincide with earlier the chip shortage that was experienced with the gantry business intersecting with equipment upgrades and replacement cycles?

So what I would say is as we're kind of through the chip issue, and I think we covered that in the prepared comments, that as we get into 25, we expect more normalized growth rates with potentially a little bit of headwind, again, as we anticipate this next-gen gantry. But as Steve talked about, we don't expect a significant increase in that conversion cycle given that technology improvements, software improvements, AI has been available to customers in our install base over the past several years. It's been very intentional that our R&D efforts were producing upgrades that were backwards compatible to the install base so that we didn't create this pent-up demand. So I think we're really going to move into a more normalized replacement cycle or an ongoing replacement cycle here in the U.S., which is a great business to have that steady state.

Fantastic. And coming from Essex comments earlier about the international business and focus there, how does that roll in terms to reaching the pre-pandemic operating margin goal of 31.5%? Usually those, traditionally those margins have been a bit lower than 30.

Yeah, well, I think as we've talked about our guide here for fiscal 2025, starting at 30 and expecting some improvement of 50 to 100 basis points over the course of 25, I think you see a really nice balance of us continuing to drive improvement in margins where we can, while we know that international is getting bigger, and that's usually diluted to the margins. But as international continues to grow, they have their own opportunities to create leverage on their operating margin line. So it's an ongoing balance, and we're really pleased about what we expect for 2025.

Our next question is coming from Andrew Brockman with William Blake.

Hi, everyone. This is Maggie Bowie on for Andrew today. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe one on biotheranostics. I know you spoke to earlier you're expecting kind of that double-digit growth that you saw in fiscal 24 for fiscal 2025. But how should we be thinking about the contribution from that to growth moving forward? And just where do you feel like you are in terms of that opportunity?

Yeah, I think we think it's still early innings on that opportunity. You know, I think there's pretty low market penetration at this point, but we haven't given guidance beyond 25, but to say that it's still early innings.

Yeah, it certainly seems accretive to our company for many years to come, as are most of the acquisitions we've been doing over the last few years.

Great. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

And our final question. is coming from Andrew Cooper with Raymond James.

Hey, everyone. Thanks for squeezing me in. Maybe just one more on the margin side. To the degree you can help sort of frame the swing factors of adding that 50 to 100 bits over the course of the year, how much of that is just these transitory items, you know, getting lapsed by the time or resolved by the time you get to the fiscal fourth quarter versus the network optimization and other things you called out in one of your earlier answers?

Yeah, we haven't quantified them specifically, but certainly they're contributing to, you know, kind of lower margins here in the first half of the year. But again, we view this as transitory, and as they clear, we'll reap that margin benefit.

Okay. I'll stop there. Thank you. Great. Thanks, Andrew.

Thank you. And this now concludes Hologic's third quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. Have a good evening.