HighPeak Energy, Inc.

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to High Peak Energy 2023 Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Stephen Thorn, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to High Peak Energy's fourth quarter 2023 earnings call. Representing High Peak today are Chairman and CEO Jack Hightower, President Michael Hollis, and I am Stephen Tholen, the Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, we will make reference to our March investor presentation and our fourth quarter earnings release, which can be found on High Peak's website. Today's call participants may make certain forward-looking statements relating to the company's financial condition, results of operations, expectations, plans, goals, assumptions, and future performance. So please refer to the cautionary information regarding forward-looking statements and related risks in the company's SEC filings, including the fact that actual results may differ materially from our expectations due to a variety of reasons, many of which are beyond our control. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures on today's call, so please see the reconciliations in the earnings release and in our March investor presentation. I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Jack Hightower.

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us today. If you'll turn to page four of the slide presentation in the March Investor Deck, that's where I'm going to begin the presentation. As mentioned in implementing our corporate vision, 2023 was absolutely a transformational year for High Peak. Just look at what we accomplished in 23. We reached a production milestone of over 50,000 barrels a day. We grew our average production rate by over 86% from 22. We exercised capital discipline by reducing our rig count as commodity prices pulled back. We strengthened our balance sheet and our liquidity position with our debt refinancing in 23. We reached two additional major milestones when we became free cash flow positive and generated over one billion in annual revenue. With a transformational 23 behind us, we now focus on 24 being a year of realization for High Peak, a year where we focus on free cash flow generation, pay down of debt, and returning value to our shareholders. Now turning to slide five, We're going to outline our core values and how we're going to create additional shareholder value. We will continue to exercise disciplined operations. Our two-rig program will allow our operations team to be laser focused on optimizing our capital costs and to continue driving down our operating expenses. We will also continue to organically increase our acreage position through the ground game in areas where we have expanded the delineation of our primary zones. From a financial perspective, we will remain focused on generating free cash flow, which will be earmarked for debt pay down and provide us with a nice liquidity cushion going forward. In addition, we will look to maximize shareholder value through our recent 60% dividend increase to an annual rate of over 16 cents per share our recently announced opportunistic share repurchase program, and an additional acreage acquisitions, and ultimately through our strategic alternative process. Now turn to page six, and we're going to talk about some of the company highlights. Focusing on production levels for a moment in the fourth quarter, our sales volume averaged over 50,000 BOE a day. our fourth quarter production volumes were negatively impacted by weather issues and unforeseen midstream maintenance interruptions, which total over 3,000 barrels a day, in addition to our frack hits that just normally happen on a day-to-day, monthly basis as we frack additional wells. So far during the first quarter, our operations have been running smoothly, and weather-related impacts have been fairly minimal as evidenced by our current production rates of approximately 50,000 barrels a day. I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out that although we reduced our development plan from six rigs to two rigs, during the middle of the year we were still able to hit both of our 2023 annual production guidance after factoring in fourth quarter production impacts and our annual capital budget. This is a testament to the quality of our asset base and the caliber and dedication of our operations team. I'd like to now draw your attention to the red line on the map, which highlights our newly acquired acreage in Northern Flat Top. We've increased our acreage position by over 18,000 acres in Northern Flat Top, moving from a roughly 114 to 132,000 net acres now. The majority of which is located in this area where we have continued to have success in our primary zones moving north. We remain very excited about our recent well results in this area, which are consistent with the performance in our core flat top area. Almost 200 additional locations in our primary operating zones. Even considering under financial highlights, The slightly reduced sales volumes and lower commodity prices during the fourth quarter compared with the third quarter, our quarterly EBITDAX still approximates one billion annual run rate. We ended the year with a very reasonable leverage ratio of one times net debt to fourth quarter annualized EBITDAX. We generated additional free cash flow during the quarter of about $34 million, and that brings our total second half 2023 cash flow to approximately $110 million. As I previously reported, we also increased our quarterly dividend by 60% over $0.04 a share, and we authorized a $75 million opportunistic share buyback. Now, turning to slide seven, This gives the established proven position of high peak now in the Midland Basin as a player that is established now and shows a history from 2020 all the way up through 2023. We consummated our business combination in 2020. We started with minimum production and over the past few years we have increased our production as quickly as I have ever witnessed anyone organically grow production during my 53 years of history in this business, while also establishing Eastern Howard County as a core oil producing area of the Midland Basin. Looking forward into 2024, our capital efficiency will continue to improve as we maintain focus on co-developing our primary reserves and primary zones in the Wolf Camp A and Lower Sprayberry. Historically, we have flexed our development plan up or down, depending on commodity prices and return on investment. We will make sure that as we adapt to various pricing environments, we will be slow on the gas and quick on the brakes. And you can demonstrate how easy it is as we increase the rig count to increase our production with the wonderful inventory we have in place. As I always say, this business is about location, location, location, and our ability to grow the business with this trajectory is the ultimate proof that our rock in this area is excellent. Now turning to slide eight, I'm going to talk a little bit about our year-end proof reserves. As noted, you can see that we continue to significantly increase year over year with 2023 growing 25% compared to the prior year, and from 22 to 23, over 30%. So we've had consistent almost 30% growth for the last two years. We have over 90% liquids approved reserve stack, which absolutely differentiates us from all our public peers. This provides high peak with higher operating margins, especially during this period of relatively low natural gas prices. Over the past three years as a public company, we have achieved a 90% approved reserves compounded annual growth rate almost entirely through the drill bit. Unprecedented. Our 2023 reserve replacement ratio was almost 300% and we grew our total crude reserves to 154 million barrels in spite of the SEC price dropping close to 20% year over year. I want to remind everyone that we are very conservative in the way we book our PUDs. In fact, of our total primary locations, less than 190 locations are booked as PUDs. So we have substantial additional reserve value that is not captured in these numbers. And we have significant additional inventory that we will cover later in the presentation. And now I'm gonna turn the presentation over to Mike Hollis, who is our president to discuss operations and corporate efficiency. Mike.

Thanks, Jack. Now turning to slide nine to discuss our margins. High Peak stands alone amongst our public peers in margin per BOE. As I've mentioned in the past, not all BOEs are created equal. Our high oil cut drives differential margins for our shareholders. As one would expect with natural gas prices trading at historical lows and our high cash operating margins are continuing to walk further away from our peer group in High Peak's favor. Our unhedged fourth quarter EBITDAX margin of $53.20 per BOE was 68% higher than our peer average margin of $31.69 and 30% higher than our closest peer. At High Peak, it's in our DNA to pursue excellence and drive our costs down. Our efficient operations and utilization of our company-owned infrastructure will continue to drive margins higher. As a comparison, to equate the same EBITDAX generated by High Peak's high oil cut, 50,000 BOEs a day in the fourth quarter, our average peer would have to have produced approximately 84,000 of their BOEs to generate the same EBITDAX. In my opinion, high peaks margins will continue to dominate the peer group over the next handful of years as natural gas and NGO prices continue to face headwinds. We are extremely fortunate to have access to such a sought after and extensive inventory of oily rock. Now turning to slide 10 to discuss our operations. Efficiencies enhance free cash flow generation. There are three pillars that drive corporate returns and free cash flow generation. They are number one, high margin, oily production, and having significant inventory of great rock to drill. Number two, keeping your operating costs low, having a laser focus on driving efficiency. Number three, continue to drive future CapEx costs down, dollar per lateral foot completed, needed to hold or grow your production. High Peak checks all of these boxes. I will address each of these pillars on this slide. Pillar one, the map in the center of the slide highlights the 2023 activity to date. Note the dark blue sticks. they blanket the two acreage blocks completely. We increased our production in 2023 86% year over year with this activity. The oil in the stock tank is proof that the rock is good. As Jack mentioned earlier, we have added 18,000 new acres in our northern flat top area that we are extremely excited about. This new acreage lies adjacent to an area where we have significant existing PDP wells, both in the Wolf Camp A and lower sprayberry zones. We have already drilled a well on the new acreage and initial logging, cuttings, and petrophysical analysis suggest the oil in place is as good or better than our core flat top area. We look forward to discussing this production in upcoming calls. And as we noted on this map, you can see where our two rigs are currently located. Now, pillar number two, driving op cost down. On the left-hand side of this slide, you can see our LOE performance throughout 2023. You may ask, what are some of the drivers of this performance? I have to give credit to the operations group for focusing time and effort to maximize production uptime of these wells and reduce failures. Also optimizing field-wide chemical programs by taking a holistic approach through the full life cycle of the wells and by more fully utilizing High Peak's world-class infrastructure. I'm proud to show the inset picture of the high peak solar farm. These panels are up and the tie-ins are being made. Electrons are expected to flow in May. This will further reduce our power costs, driving down LOE and also minimizing our carbon footprint. I look forward to being able to say we are drilling on sunshine this summer. Now pillar number three, capital efficiency. On the right-hand side of this slide, you can see our historical DC&E cost per foot. The industry enjoyed historically low costs during COVID. Unfortunately, we also had low commodity prices as well. In the post-COVID era, there were extreme inflationary pressures stemming from supply chain constraints, and rapid industry-wide acceleration of activity. Now, post-COVID to date, we have seen capital costs trend significantly lower, roughly 25% from the highs. Now, I want to draw your attention to the star on the chart. This represents our third quarter 2023 actuals. This is the dollar per foot that we budgeted for 2024. We are adhering to an under-promise, over-deliver philosophy. Currently, we're seeing high-peaks DC&E costs running approximately 7% below those numbers budgeted for 2024. We generated $110 million of free cash flow in the second half of 2023. And when in free cash flow mode, Any dollar saved is an additional dollar contributed to free cash flow, further enhancing high-peak shareholder initiatives like debt repayment, dividends, or stock buybacks. Our 2024 budget is slightly front-half weighted due to carry-in of DUCs from our 2023 program. As we exited the year running three rigs, Our infrastructure projects to tie in our newer acreage will also be somewhat front half weighted. The right rock, productivity and oil mix with low cost operations, efficient deployment of capital, drive corporate efficiency and enhance free cash flow generation. This puts High Peak in an enviable position to drive shareholder value. Now turning to slide 11 to discuss our inventory. As shown on slide 11, High Peak has over 1,700 drilling locations in what we consider to be our primary zones. In our bread and butter, Wolf Camp A, and Lower Sprayberry zones, we have close to 15 years of inventory at our current development base. I would also like to point out that we are not only organically able to grow our production 86% year over year in 23, and not only replenish our inventory, but we increased the number of drillable locations in our primary zones at the end of 2023. We ended 22 with a little over 600 locations in the Wolf Camp A and Lower Sprayberry. And at the end of 23, we now have over 700 locations in those two benches, even after drilling approximately 85 wells into those zones during the 2023 calendar year. Counting the Wolf Camp B and the Wolf Camp D, we add another two decades of running room. Our upside targets in the Middle Sprayberry and Wolf Camp C push our runway out to close to half a century. We're blessed to have decades worth of oil rich, low cost, high margin inventory, which we will be able to economically convert to free cash to return to shareholders. Furthermore, some of our upside zones are currently being drilled and delineated by our direct offset operators. We are extremely excited about some of these initial results, and we enjoy being the beneficiary of this potential upside without High Peak having to spend the risk dollars at this stage. Finally, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our geology and land departments for their hard work over the last year. In a market environment where high-quality inventory is extremely scarce and companies are paying top dollar for that remaining inventory, our team was able to identify and organically acquire high-value locations, setting the stage for Hypeek to deliver exceptional returns to shareholders. And with my comments now complete, I'll turn the call back over to Jack to discuss this year's development plan and guidance.

Before we turn to slide 12, I'd like to take this opportunity to throw some much-deserved appreciation to our operations team. They did a fantastic job of navigating our field operations last year and quickly and efficiently adapting to the changes in our rig cadence. Wasn't easy going from six rigs back down to two rigs, while helping us still achieve an 86% growth in production last year. We're truly blessed to have such a great operational team. Now turning our focus on slide 12, looking into 2024, we designed our program around a two-rig, one-prack crew development cadence this year. Our plan will remain focused on high return co-investment in our Wolf Camp A and Lower Sprayberry Zones in this current commodity price environment. We may also decide to drill a few wells into some of our upside zones if we continue to lack what we see from our offset operators, which is pretty exciting right now in various zones. We reduced our development plan to two rigs in early February and are currently running one prac crew. With the additional carry-in wells that Mike mentioned in our two-rig program, we will be able to fully utilize one prac crew during this year's business approximately 90 percent of our capital will be invested through the drill bit this year in future years this percentage will increase as the need for infrastructure spending will reduce to about 50 percent of this year's budget even with the addition of the acreage the infrastructure is very efficient and and is almost 100 in place and as mike previously discussed We feel that there's additional savings that we may potentially realize this year on both CapEx and operations sides of the equation. We provided an unlevered pre-cash flow sensitivity chart based on consensus oil prices ranging from $70 a barrel to $90 a barrel. From a high-level view, a $10 barrel increase in oil prices equates to over a hundred million dollars of additional free cash flow there's no question that we have proven the capability of our asset base to increase production levels quickly and economically however given the current commodity price environment which has been fairly volatile over the past few months due to various geopolitical tensions anticipated interest rate movements and fragile economies we've seen oil prices move around from the high 60s to the low 80s. In the current market, we feel that the best development plan is to maintain production at 23 levels and focus on free cash flow generation and debt reduction. However, this does not preclude the opportunity to increase activity levels in the future if prices stabilize at a level that justifies additional activity. I do want to emphasize to everyone and reiterate that we will always look to run our program within our operational cash flow on a go-forward basis. Now turning to slide 13, and this goes to the scarcity of quality inventory that has been driving M&A activity. It's no secret to anyone on today's call that there's a huge wave of M&A activity taking place within our industry, especially in the Permian Basin. And the underlying reason for this scenario is due to the scarcity of remaining high-quality drilling inventory in high-return areas like the Permian. This situation is not just a fear factor, it's reality. The U.S. has grown its domestic production levels considerably over the past decade at an unprecedented pace, but we're reaching a point where the growth pattern is beginning to level off and at some point in the near future it will actually start to decline. It's my belief that this scenario will happen faster than most of the experts are currently predicting. I think you will start to see degrading capital efficiency in almost all shell basins over the next few years as Tier 1 inventory is exhausted at current development cadences. We are fortunate at High Peak that we have close to one and a half decades of delineated high-return inventory, especially at our two-rig cadence. Even with increasing rigs, we still enjoy tremendous long-term inventory. In addition, we enjoy a large controlled acreage position with very few non-operated partners, which facilitates the drilling of long lateral wells and efficient build-out of infrastructure This gives us complete, total control of our own destiny. We absolutely have differentiated oil-weighted high-margin production and reserves, something that will remain extremely valuable over the near-to-medium term as natural gas prices continue to face major headwinds. We spent the time, effort, and capital to build out an infill infrastructure system that is truly world-class. This system allows us to continue to realize additional cost savings, facilitate our ESG goals, and flex our activity levels up or down without overrunning the system. All of these attractive attributes make us firm believers that High Peak is in an attractive position relative to current M&A activity. Now turning to slide 14 to wrap up, our key takeaways are that 23 was definitely a truly transformational year for High Peak, and we're continuing to carry positive momentum going forward into 24. We accomplished the major goals that we set out last year, which positioned us as an established player in the Midland Basin. We achieved our annual production guidance, even taking into account the reduction of our rig count and our curtailed production volume. we reached the free cash flow inflection point milestone. We quickly and efficiently adapted our program as commodity prices merited and have designed our 24 program based on capital discipline and focused on capital efficiencies, free cash flow generation, and debt reduction. We fortified our balance sheet while providing us with additional liquidity and flexibility and no near-term debt maturities. We reduced our costs across the board, both on CapEx and OpEx sides of the equation, and we have line aside to additional savings in 2024. We recently enhanced our return of value to shareholders with a 60% increase in our quarterly dividend and authorized an opportunistic share buyback program. In addition, in light of current market environment, we have reengaged our strategic alternative process. Due to all the posse things I just mentioned, I'm extremely excited about what 24 will bring to our shareholders. And so now I'm going to open up the call to questions from our analysts. And one question that I've already had that I think is important to emphasize is if your production is going to maintain flat, to decline with only two rigs, then aren't you gonna have a less of a potential sell price on a multiple of EBITDA? What I'd like to point out is we have seen extremes in the marketplace where companies sell at a multiple of three to three and a half times EBITDA all the way up to establishing over $7 million per location of inventory. We feel like well over half of our value will be our inventory of locations, not just selling on a multiple of EBITDA. So we are extremely encouraged by what the value of the company will be compared to where our stock value is today. And now I'll open up the call to questions from our analysts.

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of John White from Roth MKM Capital.

Good morning, gentlemen, and congratulations on having run such a good 2023. Um, I was on another call, uh, with, uh, another Permian operator and they cited decreased prices for, uh, tubulars, casing and chemicals. I'm wondering if, uh, you're, you're seeing the same trend and what are you seeing in terms of, uh, rotary rig, rotary drilling rig rates? What direction are they headed?

John, I'm going to let Mike, who oversees our operations on a daily basis, he's got a very current sense of the direction overall that's taking place in the industry. So, Mike, you'll answer John's question.

You bet. Thanks, John, for the question. And, hey, look, for everyone else on the call, while we were doing our prepared remarks. We got a note that some folks were having a hard time getting and downloading the presentation. So all of that has been resolved. So if you were having any issues getting the presentation that we were running through in the prepared remarks, please try again. Things will work now. But to answer your question, John, we kind of walked through it and hopefully you were able to see the slide, but we kind of walked through what prices have done over the the last three years. And I think all of our cohorts and peers in the industry are telling you exactly what we're seeing as well. Again, with High Peak, we try to make sure that we don't lock in pricing for a long period of time in a very volatile kind of market. So we were able to enjoy the decreases since kind of the post-COVID era that roughly 25% reduction in overall costs. We've been able to enjoy that on the way down. Obviously, that's continuing to bid out and stay on top of activity. And with the group that we have here at High Peak, we've got a lot of experience and time in the industry to be able to garner What other companies may have to have a lot of scale and activity to get the pricing, we're able to receive some of those pricings as well because we've been in the market and ran so many rigs in the past here at Hy-Vee and other companies. So to answer your specific questions about rig rates, we definitely saw rig rates peaking six to nine months ago and you were seeing folks looking out upwards to kind of the $35,000 a day for rig rates for tier one super spec rigs. What we're seeing now, we never got to that point because we weren't trying to lock in multi-year contracts. So we never approached much above 30. Today, you're down closer to the 28, 27 range on an average for your your higher spec rigs they're somehow a little cheaper but again we look holistically we may not use the cheapest one piece it's how we put the whole pie together that allows us to generate the lowest dollar per foot in the public space today thanks very much and uh another question um what level of uh crude oil price uh would you have to see and

and how long would you have to see it to decide to add a third rig?

Good question, John. Of course, price in and of itself is one part of the equation. Our return on investment is another part, and where the economy looks to be going. As we mentioned, a $10 increase in oil gives us roughly $110 million plus of additional EBITDA, which goes directly to free cash flow. One thing I think is important for our shareholders to understand, though, with six rigs, we can be compounding production tremendously. And with three rigs, we start increasing production tremendously. So at the end of the day, the basic component is an increase in oil prices. And with an increase in oil prices, considering also our philosophy of maintaining prudence and discipline, we would start considering to increase our rig count. But it's not a simple question to answer.

Okay. Commodity markets are complicated, so I understand your guarded answer. I'll pass it back to the operator. Thanks, John.

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Nicholas Pope from Seaport Research.

Morning, everyone. Morning, Nicholas. Morning, Nick.

I was hoping you guys could talk a little bit about the cadence of two rigs compared to the one frack crew, how you all expect those wells to kind of be fleshed out over the quarters of the year, and kind of how you are thinking about just that pace, the ongoing pace, and kind of the wells that you're coming into the year with.

yeah mike why don't you answer that question absolutely so nick you know of course we're getting fairly efficient and more efficient every kind of week month as we go with our completion crews uh and at high peak we do drill a lot of wells and a lot of lateral foot per rig so as we sit today we are able to complete with one of these kind of in tier one frac crews, dual fuel, very efficient, we're able to complete all of the wells behind kind of two, call it two, two and a half rigs. So as we mentioned, being a slightly front half weighted on CapEx on BNC, what drives that is we're able to complete at about a two and a half rig cadence for the first half of the year. and go to a two rig cadence the latter half of the year. So that's the slightly front end weighted. So you can imagine toward the back half of the year, you'll have a couple little few day gaps in between the pads. Now, as far as the rateability, which means as we're drilling these wells, as soon as we move off of a pad, We move the frack crew in and complete them. So the pad sizes we're drilling in 2024 are very similar to the pad sizes we were drilling in 23. Hence, rateability per rig will be about the same as well as the completions and turning lines.

Got it. That's helpful. Switching to the the financial side of things. Um, I was hoping y'all could talk a little bit about the decision to increase the dividend and, and how you weigh that cash going out the door for the dividend relative to, you know, the, the low, the, the big, um, term loan that, that you put in place in the summer. Um, kind of how you're thinking about what could be paid off, what you're allowed to pay down on that new debt instrument. Obviously, it's got a pretty big note with where interest rates are. So just kind of curious how you're balancing those cash options kind of outside of drilling right now.

Good question, Nick. And our basic answer there is the dividend... relative to our annualized basis of 25 million is pretty de minimis. It doesn't really help us to do another 25 million on a billion to pay down of the loan, but it gives us more value return for the shareholders. Our stock is depressed in our opinion, hence the reason we have a share buyback and why you see management in our last offering, do 108 million of $165 million offering. So we're gonna continue that program. And as far as buying back stock, when we negotiated our loan, we got permission to do all these things, to increase our dividend, to do a share buyback, and to have that flexibility. And we do have restrictions in terms of pay down of the debt. We have an amortization in place, but we also have restrictions that limit our ability to pay down without any MAKO provisions.

Got it. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. I'll let you jump off the queue and let somebody else get in. Thank you. Thanks, Dave.

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Robertson from Water Tower Research.

Thanks. Good morning. Mike, can you talk a little bit about reserve bookings in the capital program in 2023 and what you anticipate in 2024 and the kind of capital that's being spent on the program and how that compares to the last several years?

You bet, Jeff. Again, as we've slowed down activity somewhat, we will be drilling a few less wells, obviously, somewhere in the 50 kind of wells drilled and about 60 turning lines this year. So again, when you look at the well performance, what we're drilling today compared to what we did in 2023, The well performance in 23 was across a broad spectrum of both blocks. So the wells that we're drilling today mirror what we kind of did in 2023, X the few efficiencies and things that we're learning as we go along our way. So if you kind of take that forward into what our reserve booking will look like, you can kind of think of 2023 being an average of a four rig program. So the growth that we saw in 2023, the ads, now the production roll-off was going to be less than the production that we're going to make in 2023. It's going to be closed, so think roughly the same roll-off with about half of the ads of reserves. And then, of course, we're always very conservative on our PUD bookings, so don't look for us to be a company that's going to go out and do 60%, 70% PUDs and only 30% approved. What we show is our approved reserves is closer to a 40% PUD and more like 60 to 65% approved or BDP. So hopefully that gives you a pretty clear picture of what 2024 will look like.

When you think of 2024 and the capital intensity of the asset base, is it fair to think that a two-rig program over time will decrease the natural decline rate in the existing approved reserve base and therefore maybe decrease the capital intensity? We're trying to offset decline and maintain or grow production?

You bet, Jeff. And it's kind of two sides to that equation. One side is obviously every well in the Permian Basin declines. So as you decline out over time, the decline rate reduces so as the base production ages the corporate decline will go down over time and as we've reduced activity toward the second half of 23 that allows that base portion of the production to reduce its overall decline rate so again as you mentioned it makes it easier to hold that production as well as to have a base that's declining left that you can grow off of as you deploy capital. The other piece on the efficiency front for the capital efficiency, kind of walk through that on slide 10, where we walk through, we're call star today. And as we've mentioned, we're mainly focusing on co-developing the A and lower spray vary. They are our two highest rate of return in capitally efficient zones. as well as the cost for services and tangibles are going down, as well as the efficiency of the drilling and completion side going up over time. So, yes, do we see 2024 from a capital dollar utilized to what we get out of it being much more efficient than where we've been in the past? Absolutely.

Will that start to show through in the DD&A rate, Mike or Steve?

Yes. So, DDNA rate, and let me give just a little bit of clarity about DDNA rate and for high peak versus peers. So, again, almost all of the growth that we've had at high peak has been through the drill bit. So by nature along there, you will have a higher DDNA rate. Typically, if you bought something, you would classify some large amount of that price being leasehold that gets distributed across all of your PUDs as well as your PDP. Or when we do it through the drill bit, we take a lot of our leasing costs and divide that only by the approved reserves for those wells. We've also built out life of the field infrastructure, and that's obviously very front-end weighted to the life of the company. And most all of those costs are in now and, again, divided by just our approved reserves. And then you even go to the BOE mix that High Peak has, although it's very, very valuable because it's very oily and very little gas that's got a very depressed pricing today. it's fewer boes so again if we were producing at you know the same kind of mix and generating the same ebada as our peers and had an 86 000 boe a day kind of number to equate to the same ebada that again just by itself would reduce our ddna down into the 18 range and then as we continue to infill and drill these wells that leasehold as well as the infrastructure dollars that are already allocated in our DDNA numbers today will get diluted with reserves that have virtually none of those costs associated with it. So to your point, over time as we continue to drill these wells, our DDNA will continue to trend down and look more similar to what your other operators in the area are at today. Thank you, Mike. You're welcome, Jeff.

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.