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spk00: Good day and welcome to the Integra Life Sciences first quarter 2024 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Mr. Chris Ward, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thank you, Cherie. Good morning, and thank you for joining the Integra Life Sciences first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. With me on the call are Jan DeWitt, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Leah Knight, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our first quarter 2024 financial results. The release and corresponding earnings presentation, which we will reference during the call, are available at integralife.com under Investors, Events and Presentations, and a file named First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call Presentation. Before we begin, I want to remind you that many of the statements made during this call may be considered forward-looking. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's Exchange Act reports filed with the SEC and in the release. Also in our prepared remarks, we will reference reported and organic revenue growth and organic revenue growth excluding Boston. Organic revenue growth excludes the effects of foreign currency, acquisitions, and divestitures. Organic revenue growth excluding Boston excludes revenues from products manufactured in our Boston facility in both periods. Management believes that excluding revenue from all products manufactured at the Boston plant provides useful information when evaluating the company's organic growth because of the unusual nature of the manufacturing stoppage and voluntary global recall. Unless otherwise stated, all disaggregated and franchise-level revenue growth rates are based on organic performance. And lastly, our comments today will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release, which is an exhibit to Integra's current report form, 8K, filed with the SEC. And with that, I will now turn the call over
spk01: Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here together with Leah to update you on our first quarter results and guidance for the year. Let me start by saying the performance during this period reflected robust market demands, the contribution of having a broad and diversified product portfolio, and solid execution by our integral colleagues around the world to deliver our 2024 key priorities and progress, our strategy. If we move to slide number four, our first quarter revenues finished at $369 million above our February guidance range, partially driven by orders that closed earlier than forecasted. Organic revenue was down 2.5% compared to the prior year, primarily due to the Boston revenue included in the first quarter of 2023. Excluding Boston, organic growth was 1.6%. we delivered adjusted EPS of 55 cents within our guidance range. Our couple months specialty surgical business saw a strong start to the year, moving 4.1% and in line with our growth expectations for this business. This performance was driven by several of our leading products and brands in CSF management, durable access and repair, and neuromonitoring. In addition, We saw continued strength in our international markets, which have delivered consistent high signal to low double-digit growth. We expect to continue to build on this momentum in our international markets as we expand access to our products in new markets and broaden our commercial reach and capabilities. We also completed the global relapse of Serrelink in the quarter. We're pleased with the strong market uptake demonstrating resilience and differentiation of our intracranial pressure monitoring portfolio. Furthering our legacy of strategic M&A to broaden our impact, we recently closed our acquisition of Clarence, a pioneer in ear, nose, and throat surgical interventions. This deal positions Integra as a leader in the ENT segment, expands our addressable market, and provides immediate scale and accretive growth to our portfolio. Eclarent's strong commercial capabilities, R&D expertise, advanced portfolio, and deep clinical knowledge will be important synergistic assets for Integra, enabling us to deliver transformative technologies to restore patients' lives. We're excited to welcome our new Eclarent colleagues. Together, we will make a profound impact on ENT and neurosurgical care. Within our tissue technologies business, we continue to see healthy demands for our broad portfolio of wound reconstruction products. We deliver triple-digit growth in Durasorb, and we're tracking ahead of our deal model. Leveraging another recent acquisition, we further expanded our UBM wound care platform with the launch of Micromatrix Flex, a dural syringe system enabling the convenient mixing and precise delivery of micromatrix-based in complex ones. As we outlined during our February call, production of Integra skin was not able to keep up with strong demand, leading to a 4.4% sales decline in tissue technologies excluding Boston. Moving on to Boston. We completed the external audit of the Boston plant and received a final report from the third-party auditor in March. You will recall that this audit was required by the FDA as part of our process to address the warning letter observations and resume production. While we anticipated this audit would yield findings and that there would be work left to complete, the audit report contained more findings than we anticipated. We're still determining the full scope of the work required to address these findings and to resume commercial distribution. Based on our preliminary assessment, we no longer expect to resume commercial distribution in 2024. We remain fully committed to resolving the issues in Boston and bringing the products back to the market for our customers and patients. Turning to guidance, we're updating our revenue guidance for the year to a range of 1.67 to $1.69 billion, reflecting the contribution of three-quarters of revenue from McLaren and the removal of all 2024 revenues for Sorgement and Primatrix. We are also updating our full-year adjusted earnings per share to a range of $3.01 to $3.11 per share to reflect supply chain challenges and the removal of the Boston revenues. Leah will provide more color on our updated guidance for the second quarter and the full year. Now before I turn the call over to Leah, let me assure you we're deeply focused on fixing our supply issues and returning the Boston portfolio to the market. We remain committed to realizing Integra's full potential by serving our robust markets through the strength of our broad and diversified portfolio and making strategic investments in inorganic opportunities, like a Clarence, to broaden our portfolio and our reach. Our first quarter results and full-year, mid-single-digit organic growth guidance reflect the progress we are making. Now over to Leon.
spk06: Thank you, Jan. Let's take a more detailed look at our first quarter financial highlights, and I'll start on slide five. As Jan mentioned, first quarter total revenues were approximately $369 million, representing a decrease of 3.1% on a reported basis and 2.5% on an against basis. Total revenues were approximately $4 million above the high end of the guidance range communicated back in February, primarily driven by favorable order timings. First quarter revenue growth was stronger across many parts of our business, with organic growth of 4.4% in common specialty surgical and 8.7% in our international business. Sisu Technologies was down 15.3%, driven by approximately $15 million of Boston revenues in Q1 2023. Our adjusted EPS for the quarter was $0.55, down 25.7% compared to 2023. Looking at the middle of the P&L, gross margins were 64.4% for the first quarter, down 290 basis points versus 2023. Gross margins were impacted by approximately 170 basis points in unfavorable revenue mix from lower Integra skin and stronger international sales, and approximately 130 basis points from lower utilization and higher scrap in the quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA margins were 19.5%, down 470 basis points compared to 2023. Our decline in adjusted EBITDA margins primarily reflects the decrease in gross margins. Operating cash flow for the first quarter was $16 million. If you turn to slide six, we'll take a deeper dive into our CSS revenue highlights for the first quarter. Reported Q1 revenues in CSS were $256 million, up 3.4% on a reported basis and 4.4% on an organic basis from the prior year. Global sales in neurosurgery grew 6.3% on an organic basis as a result of low double-digit growth in neuromodernity, driven by the relaunch of Serolink, mid-single-digit growth in CSS management, driven by Service Plus Valves, and mid-single-digit growth in Dural Access and Repair, driven by Duragens. The growth across these franchises was partially offset by an expected low single-digit decline in advanced energy, which is driven by a tough comp on CUSA Capital in the first quarter of last year. As we move past the first quarter comp, we expect to see positive growth for the CUSA Capital and disposable portfolio in 2024. For the first quarter, our capital sales were up low double digits, driven by the relaunch of Serilink, which has delivered results in line with our expectations. Turning to instruments, we saw an approximate 2% decline driven by a challenging comp versus the first quarter of 2023. On a full-year basis, we expect that business to return to a mid-single-digit growth trajectory. Shifting to our international business, we saw another strong quarter in CSS with high single-digit growth. Strength in the quarter was driven by double-digit growth in China, Latin America, Middle East and Africa, and mid-single-digit growth in the rest of Asia Pacific and Europe. Moving to our tissue technology segment on slide seven. Tissue technologies was down 15.3% on a reported and organic basis compared to the prior year. Excluding Boston, organic growth was down 4.4%. First quarter sales in the wound reconstruction franchise decreased by 19.9%. Excluding Boston, we experienced an organic decline of 6.3%, driven by the supply constraint on Integra Skin that we discussed in February. Excluding Boston, first quarter revenues in tissue technologies were driven by a low double-digit decline in Integra Skin, Micromatrix, and Phytol, partially offset by greater than 100% growth in Dorazor and mid-double-digit growth in Gendrix. Although our revenues were down for the quarter, we continue to see strong demand for our wound care portfolio, which continues to provide us with confidence in the long-term growth potential of our complex wound reconstruction business. As our supply recovers, we are well positioned to return to a steady growth trajectory. Private label sales were down 0.6% versus last year, up 0.7% excluding Boston products. Private label performance in Q1 was slightly below historic performance for the business due to the timing benefit from our Q4 overperformance and a strong Q1 2023 curve. Finally, international sales and tissue technologies were down low double digits, primarily due to the Boston recall and Integra skin supply, partially offset by low double-digit growth in Micromatrix, Phytol, and MetaHoney. If you turn to slide eight, I will briefly update our balance sheet, capital structure, and cash flow. During the quarter, operating cash flow was $15.7 million, and free cash flow was $.3 million, reflecting continued spend on EU MDR cutbacks, and increased working capital, primarily from investments and inventory. Free cash flow conversion was 26.4% on a trailing 12-month basis. Our balance sheet remained strong, with ample liquidity to support our short- and long-term plans. As of March 31st, net debt was $1.2 billion, and our consolidated total leverage ratio was 3.2 times. The company had total liquidity of $1.5 billion, including $663 million in cash and short-term investments, and the remainder available under our revolving credit facility. Our balance sheet flexibility enabled us to complete the declarant acquisition at the beginning of Q2. If you turn to slide 9, I will provide our consolidated revenue and adjusted earnings per share guidance for the second quarter and full year 2024. Second quarter revenues are forecasted to be between $411 and $416 million, representing reported growth in the range of approximately 7.8 to 9.1%, and organic growth in the range of approximately 1.3 to 2.6%. Our forecast reflects the diverse portfolio and strong global demand for our products, favorable comp from Boston returns in Q2 2023, and the impact in the second quarter from favorable order timing in the first quarter. Our second quarter guidance also includes approximately $25 million at the midpoint in apparent sales beginning on April 3rd. For the full year, revenues are forecasted to be in the range of $1.67 to $1.69 billion. Our updated full year guidance removes revenues of approximately $10 million previously forecasted from the returns of the Boston portfolio beginning in the third Forward guidance also includes approximately $80 million in clearance sales beginning in the second quarter. We expect our reported growth to be in a range of 8.4 to 9.4%, and organic growth to be 3.3 to 4.3% for the full year 2024. Turning to adjusted earnings per share guidance. For the second quarter, we expect adjusted EPS to be 60 to 65 cents, Our second quarter EPS reflects higher supply chain costs due to ongoing remediation efforts, scrap, and lower plant utilization. For the full year, we are updating our adjusted EPS to be in the range of $3.01 to $3.11 per share, reflecting the delay of the relaunch of Surgiment and Prime Matrix, the full year impact of the higher supply chain costs, and the inclusion of the McLaren acquisition, which we still expect to remain EPS neutral for the year. Before I turn the call back to Jan, I'd like to take you through key considerations for our full-year revenue outlook on slide 10. As we move past the first quarter comp with the capital, catch up to demand levels on Integra Skin, and resolve back orders in our CSS business, we have a clear path to mid-single-digit growth or better in most franchises in our portfolio. We remain committed to confronting our supply challenges and are determined to resolve them. At the same time, we are focused on maintaining the growth momentum we have today and fully activating our growth potential across the balance of the portfolio.
spk01: Let me turn it back to Jan. Thank you, Leah. And please turn to slide 11 to conclude your remarks. In the first quarter, we saw a healthy demand for a portfolio of differentiated products across several parts of our business, despite supply headwinds. With our first quarter performance, our first half is on track to meet our expectations, and we anticipate returning to a more reliable cadence of mid-single-digit growth in the second half of the year. We have devised our organic and inorganic global growth strategy, a successful global relaunch of Serlink, ongoing international expansion of our portfolio of leading brands and commercial capability, and continued expansion execution of our M&A game board, as demonstrated by the integration and outperformance of SIA, its Durasorb products, and the close of their client acquisition. We understand the frustration that our customers, investors, and employees feel about the results of the audit in Boston, but I assure you we are focused on the additional remediation work and other changes necessary to bring our products back and strengthen our supply chain execution. And this is achievable. I remain confident that Integra has a bright future ahead. We have markets with stable growth. We have strong commercial capabilities. And we have a diversified portfolio of leading products to fuel our expansion. Our leadership team, our boards, and our employees remain committed to achieving reliable long-term business performance and to building robust capabilities to deliver life-saving technologies to patients. while driving consistent mid-single-digit top-line growth, strong profitability, and cash flow for our shareholders. With that, I'd like to open the line for Q&A.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, press star 1-1 again. Due to time restraints, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question will come from the line of Vic Chopra with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk14: Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. So regarding your Boston facility recall and restart, I think the news came today as a surprise to a lot of people. So it sounds like you don't expect to resume commercial distribution in 2024. Can you maybe share some additional details around what the results of the audit revealed? And then does this mean you have to sort of revisit your LRP? And then I had a follow-up, please.
spk01: Good morning, Vic. Thanks for that question. So look, when we communicated in February, we believed our timeline was achievable based on plans to satisfy the thresholds. of the warning letter. Now, despite how much we accomplished leading up to the dress rehearsal, we were not as far along as we thought. The final audit confirmed that there's more to be done. That's a result that we acknowledge and accept as a result of that final audit. Now, none of this should cloud the fact that we remain committed to bringing the products back to market for the benefit of our surgeons, our patients, and shareholders. So we've made changes to the operations and quality leadership and structure to ensure the right focus and capabilities is applied to Boston, but also our broader quality system and the broader supply improvements there. In terms of the question of updating LRP, at this point in time, we don't yet give Yeah, any updates on LRP? We are working to update the planning for Boston, and we'll probably give updates later in the year as we get there.
spk14: Okay, thank you for the comprehensive update. And then my follow-up question, in late April, 7Max published a proposed LCD for the treatment of DFUs and VLUs. Can you just remind us what impact this has on Integra and what percent of your products are exposed to this proposed LCD? Thank you very much.
spk01: Yeah, on the LCD, these new proposed LCDs regarding the coverage for skin substitutes are focused on the DFU and the VLUs, the diabetic foot ulcers and the venous leg ulcer space. The two products that Integra has that are indicated for these wound types are Omnigraft and Primatrix. and they remain covered under those new proposed LCDs. So that's good news for Integra. It is, however, still today a small part of our business. So on the one hand, we're happy our products remain covered, but for the short term, I would say that the impact to Integra is neutral, but it represents an opportunity for the future. Plus, we like the trends with these LCDs proposal, which seem to support products that deliver strong outcomes and have rich clinical evidence. And that's areas or products where we feel Integra is positioned strongly.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Steve Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
spk10: Thank you. Good morning. I guess first, Janke, if you could talk about the next steps in Boston. What are the milestones that investors should be looking for as you go through the rest of this year?
spk01: So at this point, we are, as I said, still determining the work plan. We're translating the observations from the latest audit into a work plan. That's going to determine the milestones. So, at this point in time, there's no specific milestones yet, but we know enough to come to the conclusion that we are pushing out the prime matrix and surgements revenues for this year.
spk10: Okay. And then, Leah, can you talk about the gross and operating margin assumptions that are implied in the EPS guidance for for Q2 and full year and any sort of considerations, you know, that we should be thinking about on both?
spk06: Yeah, so thank you, Steve. From a gross margin perspective, let me talk about full year first, and then I'll step back and talk about Q2. On a full year basis, in February, we communicated gross margins that would be flat to modestly up. In light of the ongoing remediation cost that will incur based on the Boston timeline, you should now think about gross margins that will be moderately down year on year versus 2023. And again, that's a combination of the additional remediation cost in Boston and then some of the lower utilization and higher scrap that we called out as well. From a Q2 perspective, you'll see a little bit of that same dynamic, right? So we do expect to be up modestly, sequentially from Q1, but we will see the impact year-over-year from lower utilization, higher scrap, some of the remediation costs that characterize what we saw year-over-year in Q1.
spk10: Okay, thanks, Leah. I'll jump back in queue.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Kristen Stewart with CL King. Your line is open.
spk12: Hi, thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could just provide an update with Integriskin, the supply constraints, and when we should see those start to ease.
spk06: Thank you, Kristen. Yes, so from an Integriskin perspective, our production is running, but we are not at full capacity yet. We have continued throughout Q1 and Q2 to ship to our customers, and demand does remain very strong. We'll be working to catch back up to full demand in the second half, and that's what's contemplated in the guide that I provided. I think on the whole, we are really happy with the demand that we're seeing in IntegraScan, and it gives us confidence to continue to make some of the CapEx investments that we've been making to build out capacity to support the long-term growth on that front.
spk12: Okay, and then just on Eclarent, can you just remind us what your assumptions are in terms of the growth profile of that business going forward under your leadership?
spk06: Happy to. First, I'd like to say we are absolutely thrilled at completing the acquisition of Eclarent in April 1 and welcoming that team as part of our Integra family. Just as a general reminder, part of our excitement is the fact that that acquisition gives us immediate commercial leverage and scale in the ENT specialty device space, which is a natural adjacency to our CSS business. It's a category that's growing at 5% to 6%. It's over a billion dollars. And, you know, we're happy about the product portfolio that comes with it and assets like the Trudy Nav offering system, as well as the expanded indication that we've gotten in the ERA Eustachian tube dilation system. So overall, just, again, really happy to have that as part of our product portfolio. From a guidance perspective, we have assumed for the three quarters that we'll have a Clarent on board, revenue of $80 million. That guidance approach does reflect the understanding that with integrations of this sort, there is some uncertainty, and so that has been factored into that assumption. That said, we still believe that this acquisition will be growth accretive to our base business, and so is capable of operating at high single-digit levels on a four-year basis.
spk00: And one moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Robbie Marcus with JP Morgan. Your line is open.
spk07: Oh, great. Thanks a lot for taking the questions. Two for me. Maybe to start on full year organic sales growth guidance. The first quarter was negative. We see the guidance for second quarter. To me, it implies either something at the high end of single digits or the low end of high single digits. So given the big step up both in growth rates and in dollars, I realize there's easier comps from last year, how do you think about your ability to not only just hit those targets but exceed those targets given it does require a pretty good step up each quarter? Thanks.
spk06: Thanks, Robby. Yes, from a percentage perspective, you're absolutely right. I think part of the reasons we provided the view that we did on our slide 10 is to demonstrate that across the portfolio, we are operating or have the ability to operate at mid-single-digit growth or better across many parts of the portfolio. So, Robbie, as I look at the second half, what does that mean? It means the international portfolio whose performance we saw on Q1 has to continue the way it's been continuing from a – Skin perspective, as I mentioned, we expect to catch up to demand in the second half, and so that will help accelerate the growth from a percentage perspective that you talked about. And then, again, from across the other parts of the portfolio, we are seeing growth in Durser, Gentrix, and there's no reason why those assets won't continue to perform at those levels, along with kind of main parts of our CSS business. So I think there's a lot of growth potential that is overshadowed to some degree by some of the challenges that we saw and issues that we saw in Q1 that will naturally alleviate themselves as we get into the second half of this year.
spk07: Great. Maybe if I move down the P&L on margins, maybe you could walk us through exactly what you're thinking for the composition of margins gross and operating margin in second quarter and what you assume in the guidance there in the full year and maybe a higher level, how you're thinking about the company's ability to expand margins on a go-forward basis given, you know, I know you've been cutting for a while and now you have a pullback and probably higher quality spend on manufacturing. Thanks a lot.
spk06: Yes. So as I mentioned to Kristen, from a gross margin perspective on a full year basis, we were forecasting flat to modestly up year on year, 24 versus 23. We're now closer to moderately down year on year. And again, that has to do with the higher remediation costs from Boston, along with some of the lower utilization and higher scrap that we've seen. So that's impacting the full year. It's also impacting, as I mentioned, Q2, so similar dynamics from a Q2 standalone basis. We will be up modestly Q2 from Q1, but again, some of the same themes will impact our Q2 results. But addressing the second half of your question in terms of kind of things that we are doing to drive different outcomes, as I mentioned previously in our last call, we are investing in activities to help drive productivity improvements, efficiency improvements, yield improvements across our network, and to strengthen overall supply and efficiencies as we interact with kind of our external supplier network as well. That work is still ongoing. And as of now, while we've identified some improvement areas, we do have to start to implement them, and we expect to realize them beginning in 2025. with more impact beyond that as well.
spk00: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Your line is open.
spk05: Hi, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to follow up on Boston, and maybe I could just ask. how you would frame the worst case scenario now for investors? And I guess when you do get product back, assuming that happens, do you still think you can regain a lot of the share that you've lost?
spk06: So I'll take the first part of that. And in terms of, just to give you kind of from a grounding perspective, based on the recall, the returns that we accrued for in 2023, we exited 2023 with Boston essentially in and around kind of low single million dollars, like it's one or two million dollars. So from a year-on-year perspective, it's neutralized from a growth perspective. So in 2024, what you'll see is organic growth that we're forecasting at 3.3 to 4.3, which essentially relates to the performance across the rest of our portfolio. As we take our time to evaluate what next steps are required to bring Surgimen and Prime Matrix back into the market, one, we are committed to do just that. But from a growth perspective, the reentry of those products are not impacting our 2024 guidance as of now. And so from our perspective, it does represent upside as we reintroduce those products back into the market. I'll let Jan address from a relaunch perspective what we think the prospects are.
spk01: Yeah, just briefly on that. Surgiment and Primatrix are differentiated products. They're chosen for specific reasons and not easily replaced. So we believe customer preference will fundamentally remain and also continue to have access and relationships with those customers to our broader portfolio. So the elements to at one point get back in the market are still going to be there.
spk05: Got it. I'm just trying to understand, what is the worst case scenario? Is it just a further delay? You still have confidence these will be back, but it may be another six months or something. I mean, it's just difficult with it being so open-ended.
spk01: Yeah. Like I said, at this point, we don't give any further guidance on the return.
spk05: Okay. All right, thank you very much.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
spk04: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I mean, there's a lot going on here, and there's a lot, I think, for investors to interpret in terms of moving parts. Number one, Jan, you were asked about the LCDs, and I appreciate that OmniGraft and Primatrix are on the list of approved products, but there's a number of other products that Integra has, including the whole Acell portfolio, that were not on the LCD list. And so what considerations do you have built in for that, or are they just not used in the chronic wound markets? I'm talking like Cytol and the Meriderm products and so forth.
spk01: Yeah, so it's the second part of your question, Ryan. These are products that are not applied in the VLU and the DFU areas. So it's almost by definition that they are not on the list and it does not impact any of our current business or potential.
spk04: Okay. And then... Leah, on margins, I think, you know, Robbie was trying to get at this, but I recognize the full-year margins are going down. And, you know, sequentially they're holding steady. What's driving the second half step up in margins, though, if there is one? Because it can still, I mean, it can still step up in the second half from some improvement, but still be down year on year. And so I'm just trying to understand, you know, with Primatrix and and OmniGraph removed, or Surgimen and Primatrix removed, excuse me, what allows you to drive that step up in margins? And, you know, the flip side of it is, how are you managing your costs from a Clarion acquisition? Just help us understand kind of some of these moving parts a little further.
spk06: Yeah. So, Ryan, again, from a full-year basis, right, we'll be down moderately. So there is a little bit of a step up required in the second half, but not significant. And a lot of that has to do with skin being back at meeting full demand. We will see an improvement in margins. That's a high margin product for us. So that's a key contributing factor. And then if I'm going to clear it, I think the other part of your question was on a clearance As I mentioned, we still expect that business to be EPS neutral in 2024 for us. So, and that's reflected in the guide as well. And overall, that portfolio, again, if we just talk gross margins, that portfolio is in and around our kind of base business gross margins. So, that's not having a factor per se.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Joanne Wunsch with Citi. Your line is open.
spk13: Good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. I have two. When you start reporting a clearance, will that be called out as a separate subdivision under NRO or where will that be tucked into?
spk06: Yes, so as part of our disaggregated revenues, we will see a separate segment for a Clarent or for ENT. I should say specifically ENT.
spk13: Okay, so that will be called out separately. And where are you in terms of... I'm sorry, what?
spk06: As ENT, as a category of ENT.
spk13: Thank you. And where are you in terms of a CEO search?
spk06: Yes. So the board remains on track with our original plans to identify as well as hire a new CEO by year end, if not sooner. So that is progressing.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Rich Newwitter with Truist. Your line is open.
spk09: Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just first, are you comfortable with consensus including Boston contribution in 2025?
spk06: Are we comfortable with consensus including what contribution?
spk09: Boston restart. Incremental contribution from a Boston restart. I guess right now there's that contemplation. Appreciate you've guided to 24, but just a level set. Is this something that we should just take out of 25 or the first half of 25, anything you can comment on there so that numbers can get right?
spk06: Yeah, I understand the question. Unfortunately, we are not providing guidance with respect to 2025. As Jan mentioned, our work is ongoing to digest fully the findings coming out of the most recent audit to determine what the appropriate timeline is to bring back Surgimen and Primatrix So we can't provide more additional information beyond that, other than the fact that we are committed to bringing those products back to the market.
spk09: Okay. And then just wondering, why are you so confident that skin capacity will be back or fully back online in the second half? And then if I could just one more, have you contemplated not going down the PMA pathway with Surgimen? And if not, would you be comfortable restarting the Boston facility if you chose not to go down that pathway?
spk06: So let me take the PMA question first, because obtaining the Surgimen PMA absolutely remains a key priority for us, and it is absolutely consistent with our IBB-R strategy. We have not yet determined at this point whether or not the Boston timeline, if or how it will implicate the PMA timeline for Surgimen. So that piece is still out there. But what is absolutely clear is that the need for Surgimen and IBBR has not diminished. And so for us, that means our opportunities to capitalize remain robust in that space. I think the other part of your question was related to skin and our assumptions in the back half. Again, because our production lines are up and running, but we're not at capacity, the work that we have underway has a plan that will allow us to get back to meeting demand. And so that's what's assumed in our guide.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Craig Bijou with Bank of America. Your line is open.
spk02: Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. So I want to start with Boston. I know you've got a lot of questions on it. I know you guys aren't providing a ton of information here, but is there any way you can talk about if you've had discussions with the FDA or, you know, the external auditor that did the review. And, I mean, I know you're not providing what's happening, but, you know, I think it'd be helpful to understand, at least from that perspective, if you are working with the FDA at this point on moving forward.
spk01: So, look, like I said, I mean, there's little we can update further. Definitely can't speak on behalf of the FDA. We are working the plan, and that's where we're focused on at this point in time, but no further updates that we can give on Boston.
spk02: Okay, thanks, John. And then maybe in a follow-up to Rich's question on Surgiman and the PMA there, and I appreciate you're not changing timelines and it's still important to you guys, but I mean, is it fair to assume that that's pushed out, that timeline needs to be pushed out, that you'd have to remediate the issues at Boston before you'll kind of move forward with that process?
spk06: Yes, I'll take that. As I mentioned, we are still doing the evaluation coming out of the report that we got on Boston to understand if or how the surge in PMA timeline will be implicated. And so that work is still ongoing. So, again, when we know more, we'll share more, but that's where we stand right now.
spk00: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Next question. And that will come from the line of Jason Bedford with Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk11: Good morning. So you've kind of stressed the commitment to getting Surgimen and Primatrix back on the market. Have you started looking at manufacturing these products at another facility?
spk01: Luke, Jason, we are in our planning not excluding any option. And so that's where I want to leave it at this point.
spk11: How long would it take to get up and running at a new facility or another facility?
spk01: Again, we're looking at what our options are. We're committed to bring these products back to the market. There's a great market. opportunity for us. So if there's options, we will take them into account.
spk06: I think the only thing I would add to that is I think as we've talked about in the past, we do have been building out capacity at another site in Boston called Braintree. And so to Jan's point, as we evaluate options, we're looking at options across the board from Braintree and Boston perspective.
spk00: Thank you. And we do have time for one final question, and that will come from the line of Drew Ranieri with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk08: Thanks for taking the question. Just on a Clarence, it looks like your guidance is kind of implying the same revenue base for 2022, for 2024. I can understand some of there could be integration challenges. So maybe just talk about what investments you are making in a Clarence today and what you have to make to get that business up to being a high single-digit grower over the next year or two. And second, just remind us on your deleveraging plans with leverage ticking up here post-deal. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah. So thank you for the question. From a Clare perspective, as I mentioned, we absolutely believe that business can be growth-accretive to our base. As it relates to 2024, we're continuing to invest behind the sales force, again, to tap into that commercial leverage, as well as the R&D portfolio. Some of the new offerings we believe represent the greatest opportunity for us to deliver some of that high single-digit growth, so offerings in their 2D NAV system area. We have an expanded indication for eustachian tubes, that will also help facilitate driving differentiated growth. And so those are the areas we're going to continue to build out during the course of this year as we're doing the integration that will set a position as well in 2025 to get to that point. I think your other question was with respect to leverage and what our outlook is there. So following the close of a Clarent and with all the upfront integration costs, we expect by the end of Q2 that our leverage will be slightly above our typical range of 2.5 to 3.5, so it will be slightly above the 3.5 range. But over the course of the back half of the year, as we, again, start realizing cash flows from a Clarent, and other parts of our business continue to come online, we'll be able to drive that back down below the three and a half times. So we'll be within our normal range of two and a half to three and a half by year end.
spk00: Thank you. This concludes today's program. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.
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