ICF International, Inc.

Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call

8/3/2022

spk02: Welcome to ICF's second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. My name is Michelle Schlosser and I will be your operator for today's call. Please note that this conference is being recorded on Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022 and cannot be reproduced or rebroadcast without permission from the company. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, you'll be invited to participate in the question and answer session. During the question and answer session, if you have a question, please press star then one one on your touch tone phone. I will now turn the call over to Lynn Morgan of Advisory Partners. Lynn, you may begin.
spk01: Thank you, Michelle. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review ICF's second quarter 2022 performance. With us today from ICF are John Watson, Chairman and CEO, and Barry Broadus, CFO. Joining them is James Morgan, Chief Operating Officer. During this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements to assist you in understanding ICF management's expectations about our future performance. These statements are subject to a number of risks that could cause actual events and results to differ materially. And I refer you to our August 3rd, 2022 press release and our SEC filings for the discussions of those risks. In addition, our statements today during this call are based on our views as of today. We anticipate that future developments will cause our views to change. Please consider the information presented in that light. We may at some point elect to update the forward-looking statements made today, but specifically disclaim any obligation to do so. I will now turn the call over to ICF CEO John Watson to discuss second quarter 2022 performance. John?
spk06: Thank you, Lynn, and thank you all for participating in today's call to review our second quarter earnings and discuss our business outlook. I'm pleased to report that this was another quarter of strong performance for ICF. First, we continued to build our position in high-growth markets, led in the second quarter by our work in digital transformation, public health, and disaster management. Together, our growth markets, which also include utility consulting, as well as climate, environment, and infrastructure services, now account for over 70% of our service revenue. Second, profitability continued to improve. Adjusted EBITDA to service revenue increased by 20 basis points year on year. while we continue with our investments in people and technology to support future growth. Third, we ended the quarter with a $1.21 trillion 12-month book-to-bill ratio, strengthening our full-year revenue visibility, and a record $8.7 billion new business pipeline, which we expect to result in considerable growth in contract awards in the second half of this year. Last, but certainly not least, in the second quarter, we announced the definitive agreement to acquire Semantic Bits, which was an exceptional strategic success for ICF and is a key factor in our increased full-year revenue and margin guidance. We subsequently closed this transaction on July 13, 2022. Second quarter revenue growth was again led by federal government client work, which increased by 23.6% and reflected organic growth and the acquisition of creative systems and consulting, which we completed at the end of 2021. The acquisition is performing well, in line with our expectations for mid-teens revenue growth, and we see significant opportunities for revenue synergies by bringing in creative, substantial expertise in Salesforce and Microsoft platforms to our broad roster of civilian agency clients. The Symantec Bits acquisition represented a step change in our digital transformation capabilities. As one of the industry's leading digital service and platform providers using open source, Semantic Bits expertise across 30 technology platforms using a fully agile approach complements our existing capabilities in this fast-growing market. Their demonstrated success in executing large health IT projects, together with ICF's deep domain expertise, will enable us to support larger, more complex projects across federal civilian agencies. We are seeing a lot of large, open-source opportunities across our civilian space, and adding Semantic Bits increases our potential win rates. At the same time, with the vast majority of its revenues derived from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Semantic Bits opens up a large new addressable market for us, giving ICF scale at CMS an agency with substantial and growing budgets. With Semantic Bits, our digital transformation business has an annual run rate of approximately 500 million. Additionally, as you can see by our revised guidance for the full year, this is a strongly accretive transaction for ICF on a non-GAAP, EPS basis, with only five and a half months of ownership. In addition to digital transformation, public health remained a robust growth market for ICF, with revenue increasing at a double-digit rate, on track for an annualized run rate of approximately 350 million. Of note is our recent win as one of five awardees of a new IDIQ by the National Cancer Institute's Division of Cancer Epidemiology and Genetics Research. We will be competing for up to 320 million over 10 years, to provide epidemiologic and clinical operations support for studies and other research activities to discover the causes of cancer and inform future prevention. The Department of Health and Human Services is our largest client by far, and the 11% increase they received as part of the 2022 budget provides substantial funds for programs that are squarely within our sweet spot, like this IDIQ we just won. Additionally, we are seeing an accelerated effort behind preparing for the next pandemic both at the Centers for Disease Control and as part of the plan reorganization that would create the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response, or ASPR, as a separate division that would be charged with the nation's response to health emergencies. ICF is well positioned at both the CDC and Legacy ASPR to assist in this phase of the post-pandemic response. Also, as we have discussed on past calls and our investor day this past May, ISAF is well positioned to gain new contracts relating to the Infrastructure and Jobs Act, or IIJA, where we've already been tasked under existing federal agency contracts to provide a range of services, including technical assistance, assistance to states, and communication and management support for IIJA programs. This tasking today is valued in excess of $12 million. Our federal government pipeline was at a record $5.9 billion at the end of the second quarter And the backlog of pending awards in the federal government is significant. So we expect to see considerable growth in contract awards in the second half of this year. We also saw strong growth year-on-year of 9.5% in our revenues from state and local government clients, led by our disaster management work. Late last year, the Department of Housing and Urban Development announced more than $2 billion in CDBG-DR mitigation funding for disasters occurring during the 2020-21 cycles. Of the grant recipients for that cycle, ICF-1 worked on more than half the awards to support those recoveries in the second quarter, including in Iowa, Colorado, New Jersey, Alaska, Kentucky, and Michigan, either through competitive procurements or extensions of existing contracts. Additionally, we continue to see government at all levels ramping up spending on mitigation, and ICF is now working on mitigation efforts for 30-plus clients in 14 states. We do have a unique set of strengths in understanding the complexity of mitigation projects across multiple federal programs, including successfully managing applications and then orchestrating execution to meet environmental, regulatory, and legislative requirements to bring such projects to fruition. These capabilities give ICF a competitive advantage, which we expect to become more important as the IIJA funds flow through state and local agencies. As expected, revenues from international government clients were lower year on year due to the completion of a short-term project with significant pass-through revenues that drove exceptional growth in this client category in 2021. Excluding that project, revenues were similar to the year-ago second quarter levels, even though our work for the European Union has not fully recovered from pandemic impacts. In addition to contract modification and add-ons to our existing international public sector work, ICF continued to win multi-year framework contracts in this market, including two large re-competes with the European Commission, one to provide consulting support on technical projects throughout member states, the other to promote and market EU agricultural products in countries outside the EU. Also, we have a strong active pipeline for international public sector clients comprised of opportunities that leverage ICF's capabilities, both our technical areas of subject matter expertise as well as our cross-cutting competencies in training and technical assistance, program implementation, communications, and event management. Moving to our commercial client category, similar to the first quarter, lower year-on-year revenue comparisons continue to reflect the softness in commercial marketing services and the exceptional growth we had in commercial energy in last year's first half, which is made for difficult comparisons this year. We continue to closely manage commercial marketing services as they work to recover from pandemic-related impacts on key verticals. Second quarter revenues accounted for less than 7% of our total revenues and were stable on a sequential basis, an early indication that the business may be bottoming out. We've also had some preliminary conversations with a couple of clients in the hospitality sector recently about potential increases in support for their loyalty programs if business travel demonstrates sustainable improvement in the second half of this year. Lastly, our aviation consulting business continues to perform very well, growing at a double-digit rate. Of course, the major long-term growth area within our commercial business is energy markets, which accounted for 62% of second quarter commercial revenues. Second quarter trends in energy were almost identical to those of the first quarter. Energy markets were up about 1% after having increased 11.4% in a similar period last year. Energy efficiency work was up the same 1.3% that it was in the first quarter, and energy markets advisory revenue increased at a mid-single-digit rate. The only year-on-year decline was in our environmental and infrastructure work, where the timing of projects can impact quarter-to-quarter revenues. We expect higher year-on-year comparisons in the second half of this year. As also discussed last quarter, the energy market pipeline remains strong for ICF's core services and energy efficiency program implementation, beneficial electrification, utility marketing services, and advisory consulting. Our utility programs and services practice has a pipeline in excess of 1 billion, and we see expansion opportunities in new states, including Connecticut, Oregon, Colorado, and the District of Columbia, as regulators and legislators set aggressive new goals. For beneficial electrification, our pipeline is no more than triple our pipeline in 2021, and the pipeline for our energy advisory business is the strongest it's been in the past three years. Similarly, we're seeing increased demand for our climate services. In this area, we serve federal, state, and local government and commercial clients, and each of these client categories is growing. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency recently selected ICF as an awardee under the new multiple award Environmental, Analytical, Research, Technical, and Hybrid, or otherwise known as Earth Support Services Blanket Purchase Agreement, to provide a broad range of environmental consulting services to the Office of Air and Radiation. This five-year BPA has a ceiling value of 5.7 billion across five awardees with 700 million of the award allocated to professional services. And of course, we're pleased to hear that the Congress appears much closer to passing climate-related legislation as part of the Inflation Reduction Act, which will provide ICF with opportunities across our government and commercial client set. To sum up, in the first half of 2022, we have continued to build our capabilities in the key growth markets we've identified We are approaching many opportunities in front of us with increased scale, deep domain expertise, and substantial experience in executing a large and complex project. This combined with a record pipeline of over $9 billion as of July 31st and a trailing 12-month book-to-bill at $1.21 at the end of Q2 all support our expectation for significant growth in 2022 and beyond. Now I'll turn the call over to Barry Roddish, our CFO, for a financial review.
spk08: Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to provide the details of our second quarter's financial performance. In addition, I will share the updated guidance metrics for full year 2022 that reflect the impact of our Semantic Bits acquisition. Second quarter total revenue increased 7.8% to $423.1 million, and service revenue was up 8.9% to $306 million. Our second quarter revenue growth reflected many of the same business drivers as this year's first quarter, and was led by strong double-digit increases of revenue from our federal, state, and local government clients. Gross margin on total revenue was 36.4%, and gross margin on our service revenue was 50.3%. These figures compare to 37.2 and 51.8, respectively, in the second quarter of last year's, which benefited from the timing of several fixed-price energy efficiency contracts. Our indirect and selling expenses of $114.4 million were up 7.7% as we continue to invest in people and technology to support future growth. However, on an adjusted basis, these expenses declined 170 basis points as a percentage of service revenues to 35.9%, down from 37.6% for the same period last year, reflecting positive leverage. Additionally, we delayed certain infrastructure investments to 2023 to focus in on the integration of our recent acquisitions. Our second quarter interest expense was $4.1 million, an increase of $1.5 million as compared to the same period last year, reflecting higher debt balance related to the acquisitions of Creative and ESAC, as well as an increase in our interest rates. For the full year, 2022, we now expect interest expense to range from $20 to $22 million which is an increase of approximately 10 million from the guidance we gave at the beginning of the year and includes additional rate increases anticipated in the second half of this year. The increase reflects the impact of the semantic BITS acquisition as well as higher interest rates. We expect to offset a large portion of this impact through additional back office efficiency gains and cost containment initiatives. Second quarter EBITDA was stable at 39.8 million as compared to 39.7 million in the second quarter of 2021. Excluding special charges totaling $2.4 million, largely related to M&A activity and non-cash rent expense of $1.9 million, which is associated with our new Reston, Virginia headquarters, adjusted EBITDA grew at a faster pace than revenue, increasing 10.3% to $44.1 million. This compares to $40 million in the second quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA to service revenue margin expanded 20 basis points to 14.4%, as we benefited from a favorable mix, high utilization levels, our increased scale, as well as our real estate consolidation initiatives. Operating income was $29.8 million. This compares to $32 million we reported last year's second quarter, which included the benefit of approximately $4 million from the fixed price energy contracts I previously noted. Our second quarter tax rate was 28.6% compared to 30.7% in the second quarter of last year. Net income totaled $18.4 million and diluted EPS was $0.97 per share in the second quarter, which includes $0.17 in tax-affected special charges, of which $0.16 were M&A and facility-related. This compares to last year's net income of $20.3 million, or $1.07 per share. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes the impact of special charges and the amortization of intangibles, our EPS increased 11.8 percent, or $1.33 per share. Now shifting to our cash flow. Our first half operating cash flow was $6.4 million, which was in line with last year's historic seasonal trends. Our capital expenditures were $11 million, which included the investment in our new headquarters. Day sales outstanding for the second quarter were 82 days, which was the same as last year's second quarter. Our debt was $450.1 million at the end of June, which compares to $421.6 million at the end of 2021. The increase in our debt reflects the historic seasonality of our collections and expenditures. Our net leverage ratio at the end of June was 3.11. Following the semantic BITS acquisition, our net leverage ratio was 3.4, and we expect to delever by approximately 50 basis points by the end of this year, assuming no additional acquisitions. With respect to capital allocations, we have been an active acquirer over the last several quarters, and we continue to expand and build a significant scale in the growth markets John spoke about. Our strong financial position, including our substantial cash flow, provides us with the ability to support organic growth initiatives and consider further strategic M&A. While we continue to pay quarterly dividends, reduce our debt, and repurchase shares to offset dilution resulting from our employee incentive programs. During the six months ended June 30th, 2022, we repurchased 176,375 shares for 17 million. In addition, today we declared a quarterly cash dividend of 14 cents per share payable on October 13th, 2022 to shareholders of record on September 9th, 2022. For modeling purposes, there are expected full year 2022 expectations, which are revised to incorporate the semantic acquisition. As a reminder, when we announced this acquisition, we noted that their annual revenue for 2022 would be $135 million. Approximately $115 million of that revenue is expected to be reoccurring in 2023, given the completion of several small business contracts. And its EBITDA margins is expected to be in the high teens. Additionally, our depreciation and amortization expense is now expected to be in the range of $20 to $22 million. Amortization of intangibles should be approximately $28 million, and our full-year tax rate will be approximately 28.5%. We expect a fully diluted weighted average share count of approximately $19.1 million. Capital expenditures are anticipated to be between $33 and $37 million, including approximately $15 million of expenses related to one-time leasehold improvements associated with the new restaurant headquarters. We have increased our operating cash flow estimate to $140 million from the $130 million we previously guided to. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to John for his closing remarks.
spk06: Thank you, Barry. We are pleased to have increased our full-year guidance across almost all of our financial metrics. The details are in our release, I would just point out that at the midpoints, we are now expecting service revenue growth of 17% and an adjusted EBITDA margin on service revenue of 14.8%. Of the 90 basis point margin increase above our prior guidance, approximately one-half is tied to the semantic bits acquisition. Also, non-GAAP EPS is expected to range from 550 to 580, which at the midpoint represents a year-on-year increase of 17.2%. inclusive of the impact of higher interest rates in 2022. Most of ICS revenues come from our work in areas that also positively contribute to society. This has enabled us to retain and attract like-minded people who are passionate about their work, while enhancing our profile as preferred acquirer firms with similar cultures. And with that, operator, let's open the call to questions.
spk02: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star then 11 on your touchtone phone. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. The first question comes from Joseph Voth with Canaccord. Your line is now open.
spk09: Hey, guys. Good afternoon, and I think a bit of a congratulations to James. I heard a new title there, so congrats on that, James. Thank you. Maybe we just kind of start at a high level here. I know that pipeline's pretty big. I know, John, you mentioned IIJA and all of that, but is that built into the pipeline yet, or is that a pipeline before the Infrastructure Act at this point?
spk06: I think the specific opportunities we've identified to date are built into the pipeline, Joe. But, I mean, I think those opportunities are still forming and we're still identifying more. So, I still think we're in the early stages of building out the pipeline for IIJI. You know, certainly the growth in our pipeline is being driven by opportunities in our five growth markets. I'll certainly say that. And as you note, I think with the passage of the federal budget here mid-year, Certainly in the second quarter, we've seen quite a significant pickup in proposal opportunities, certainly in the federal sector in the second quarter.
spk09: Got it. And then I guess your IT footprint now is, I'd say, pretty much critical mass, right? A lot of capability across a lot of different technologies in a lot of different agencies. And I know your TAM's getting pretty big now by obviously adding more in Medicare and Medicaid and the like, but just kind of two questions on the strategy from here in IT. Clearly a lot of opportunity where you sit now. Does it make sense to do more M&A in IT right now? And then secondly, with The footprint that you have now, have you considered expanding out into more into the DOD side at this point, given how big those budgets are? Or is there plenty to do kind of where you are in the markets you're in now?
spk06: Sure. I'll answer those questions in the order you ask them. And I certainly agree, we're seeing tremendous opportunity in the IT modernization arena. I do think that we feel like we've built out the core of capabilities we need to tackle that market, you know, both in the low code, no code, and across the open source portions of that market. And so I, you know, we were always out in the market on M&A, you know, looking for opportunities, but I really see if we were to do anything in odd team modernization, I think it would be much more of a small token acquisition, you know, focused on you know, specific new technology we may need. But I think we really have the core of what we need to drive growth here in our federal client base. And I would say on, you know, the potential of going into DoD, you know, as you know, Joe, I mean, you know, 95% of our portfolio is in civilian markets. We have very deep domain expertise. And I think we're just seeing such significant opportunity in the civilian markets where we have client relationships, where we can, you know, work the white space between our domain expertise and our exceptional IT capabilities, that that really is the focus. That's not to say we do some work for DOD, but I think given the domain expertise and how we really differentiate ourselves as working that white space between domain and IT capabilities, I think we're primarily focused on DOD. I mean, I'm sorry, on civilian. That doesn't mean that down the road we might not look there, but I think we might remain I'm quite focused on our civilian client base.
spk09: Great. And then maybe just I'll sneak in one or two for Barry here. Just I know we've got a little bit of margin expansion on gross margin on services revenue, which is good. You know, there's a lot going on out there. And bid and proposal, it sounds like I'm wondering how you're looking at balancing investing more in the bid and proposal engine versus um margin expansion on operating level and then i might have missed if you had a that organic federal growth rate in services thanks a lot guys yeah yeah thanks for the question you know i think we were able to balance you know um you know expanding our bd capabilities in our proposal engine you know with um you know
spk08: achieving the gross margin expansion that we've talked about. You know, I think from a bidding perspective, we have a very good feel for, you know, our clients that we work with and that, you know, we have a good understanding of the pricing and, you know, that's just reflected in, you know, the bids that we've won and how we perform and execute on those particular contracts. So I think we've got a good balance between investing in our growth, which includes the proposal activity, the BD engine, and executing on those contracts efficiently to have that margin expansion that we've talked about.
spk09: Great. And then organic federal, Barry, in the quarter?
spk06: Yeah, I think that, I don't have the number. Yeah. I mean, we were in double digit organic growth in the federal. Got it. Yeah.
spk09: That's good. Much appreciate it, guys.
spk06: Follow up with the unnecessary number.
spk03: Yeah. Please stand by for our next question.
spk02: Our next question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. Your line is now open.
spk07: Good afternoon, everyone. So you mentioned 80% of year-to-date contract wins coming from new business. Just wondering what's really driving that high level of new business? Should we think about that as mostly IT modernization work, or is it maybe a more balanced mix?
spk06: Well, I think IT modernization is certainly, you know, playing a significant role there. But again, I would point back, Kevin, to the five growth areas. And I mean, I think we've talked generally about the ICF scale in each of those areas in terms of the revenues. Certainly, within those five growth areas, IT modernization, you know, we now have a $500 million business there that's growing quite quite robustly, more than 15%. And that's obviously driven by the pipeline. Public health's $350 million business, again, that's driving the pipeline. And then the additional areas. But it's really being driven by the five growth drivers, five key growth drivers.
spk07: Okay, great. And you mentioned the accelerated efforts. by the federal government to move on to planning for responding to the next pandemic. So do you think we've kind of moved beyond the response phase here and moving into more of that recovery and reinvention phases? And if so, do you perhaps see some sizable contract opportunities coming out of those efforts?
spk06: Yeah, I guess I would say things. I hesitate to say we're out of the immediate response. I mean, the pandemic's proof that the ground can shift very quickly. But I do think we are seeing the clients that I mentioned, CDC, ASPR, beginning a focus and beginning a discussion on some of the longer-term steps that could be taken to improve future responses to the pandemic. And as we've talked about in the past, as that matures, I think there will be potentially sizable opportunities for ICF. And so we're pleased to see some of that focus and are following it very carefully and think we can really help clients on that front.
spk07: Okay, good. And you mentioned part of the increase in the adjusted EBITDA margin guidance representing the push out of planned corporate investments. I don't know if I missed it, but could you elaborate on that a bit more?
spk08: Sure. Thanks for the question. One of the things that we really decided to do was focus in on the acquisitions that we've made and make sure that the integrations of those acquisitions run very smoothly and are integrated into the company. So with that, we wanted to really focus on that and push off some of the investments that we're looking at from a new systems perspective and some of the processes in the back office activities that we still are actually engaging on, but just kind of slowing down the spend and activity on those initiatives. So they're important to the company, but so is integration of these acquisitions. So we're still working on them, but just not at the same rate that we had initially planned. And so we'll continue to pick those up in the later half of this year and more so into 2023.
spk07: Okay, thank you. And just lastly, I wanted to ask about the commercial marketing services business. You mentioned it's still operating below pre-pandemic levels, but perhaps some green shoots coming in the second half of 2022 with some of your hospitality clients. As you think about that business longer term, do you think it's one that can return to and eventually exceed pre-pandemic levels and also be a growth business for you over the long term?
spk06: Sure. I think that if we take a long-term view, we certainly think that commercial marketing, certainly in the hospitality sector, given the loyalty platform we have and the proprietary system that underlies it, can return to growth, and I think it remains an industry-leading product. But it's going to require, obviously, the rebound in the hospitality sector, particularly around business trials. And as you said, we've seen some green shoots there, and so those are early but positive signs. And as we've talked previously, Kevin, we have not assumed a material improvement in commercial marketing service and guidance for this year, but we're pleased to see the green shoots. And I think, as I said, a material improvement in commercial marketing service and guidance for this year, but we're pleased to see the green shoots. And I think, as I said, I think we've managed it pretty carefully. And I think in a longer-term view, there will be growth opportunities there. And as we've also talked about, the skills and capabilities that have resided in that commercial marketing business, I just do want to emphasize we've had challenges with some of those commercial verticals. We do continue to leverage those capabilities into our energy work, to our federal government work, and that has allowed us to grow those businesses. So, you know, there is a synergistic benefit of having those skills and capabilities in some of our other markets.
spk07: Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thank you for taking the questions.
spk06: Good to hear from you.
spk02: Please stand by for our next question.
spk03: Our next question comes from Toby Sommer with Truce.
spk02: Your line is now open.
spk05: Hey, good afternoon. This is Jasper Bibon for Toby. Thanks for taking our questions. So I just wanted to ask about energy revenues. You talked about some projects maybe moving to the right there. Are you expecting those projects to restart in the second half? And more broadly, maybe you could speak to your expectations for energy over the balance of the year.
spk06: Yeah, I think, you know, as I talked about it, I mean, I think we've Well, first of all, I think we certainly see an ongoing improvement in energy in the second half of the year. I think we have talked about at least mid-single-digit growth there. I think we've had some tough comps. We grew 11%, 12% in the first half of last year. And so the comps will improve, and I think we certainly see a pickup in our energy business in the second half of the year, given the pipeline and the sales we've had. So that's certainly the outlook there. In terms of our projects moving to the right, I mean, we did have a bit of movement of revenue, service revenue to the right in Q2, but I think we have not changed our guidance on service revenue. And I'm talking about our guidance prior to the Semantic Bits acquisition. That guidance remains the same. So we do expect to, anything that's moved to the right, we think we'll pick up by the end of the year. And then obviously we've layered semantic bits on top, and that's taken our guidance from 12% service revenue growth to 17% service revenue growth for the year.
spk05: Excellent. The booked bill is a bit lighter in the quarter. Some of the more, I guess, defense-focused peers have talked about bottlenecks or delays in getting past quarters cleared. Is that something you're seeing in the federal business, and are you expecting any improvement there in the last two months of the fiscal year?
spk06: As I said in my remark, we've really seen you know, our sense is certainly the proposal activity post passage of the budget, you know, the federal budget in the spring, certainly up the level of new proposals and new bids we saw coming out on the federal front, you know, gave us a sense that the clients, the contracting officers were focused on kind of getting the new bids and the new contracts out given those budget increases on the civilian side. And what's that done is it's kind of slowed award decisions as the, you know, the new proposals all come out. I think our view is that, you know, that backlog will clear in Q3. As you know, Q3 is usually our strongest sales quarter, and there's a lot of pent-up, you know, proposals waiting to award. And so I think we certainly expect to see, you know, a significant improvement in sales for Q3, and I would expect that would continue into Q4. So we're certainly expecting a pickup here in the second half of the year.
spk05: Thanks for that. Last question for me. I was just hoping you could provide a bit more color on some of the opportunities you think might come out of this latest climate bill that we recently passed.
spk06: Sure. So, you know, I think that, you know, and this bill has been out for a week and it hasn't passed yet, so I don't want to count my chickens before, you know, before we, you know, anyway. I think the bill outlines about $370 billion in government spending in energy security and climate programs over the next 10 years. That spans a variety of renewable energy type efforts and programs and tax incentives, wind, solar, geothermal, battery, and other clean energy type activities. I think, as we've talked about quite a bit, we have a broad way of capabilities across energy efficiency, distributed energy, electric vehicles, mitigation, adaptation. And so I think there will be potentially material opportunity for us here, leveraging the expertise we have across energy and climate and resilience. But it's far too early for me to provide more specificity than that. I think we were obviously quite pleased to see the bill
spk02: um you know return and um you know are following quite closely and i'm sure we'll have more to say on that front um yeah makes sense thanks for taking the questions guys thank you as a reminder to ask a question please press star then one one please stand by for our next question Our next question comes from Mark Reddick with Sidoti. Your line is now open.
spk04: Good evening, everyone. Hey, Mark. So a lot of my questions have been answered, but I did want to touch a little bit on maybe what you're seeing and what you're expecting as far as adding of talent organically. Certainly you've been active on the acquisition side of things, but maybe if we could touch a little bit about what your expectations are maybe for the remainder of the year for opportunities as well as availability and maybe some key areas that you'd like to add to?
spk06: Sure. So, I mean, I think we've talked about it at eye level. I mean, I think our organic growth expectations remain high single-digit organic growth for the year. And obviously, as a consulting professional services firm, we need to have the headcount to support that growth. And so, you know, generally I would think that if we're in the, you know, in the high 7% range, you know, we're going to have to add, our head count will have to go up, you know, 6.5%. We always try to get a little leverage from existing staff. And so, in the first half of the year, you know, I think our head count is up about 4, 4.5%, 4.5% to 5%. And so, you know, I think we continue to add headcount. As we've talked about in the past, we're certainly investing significantly in recruiting and doing everything we can to retain our staff. You know, the growth is in, again, you know, as we've talked about, 70% of our revenues are in our 5-5 growth markets. I think that's where most of the focus is on the recruiting front in terms of the markets.
spk04: Right. And then as far as pricing and your commentary about maybe shifting some of the plans for maybe by a couple of quarters or so, does that also take into account the – I would imagine it takes into account availability of talent, but are there any particular areas where that might be a little more difficult currently than maybe what you were expecting at the beginning of the year, or has that changed much compared to what your expectations were?
spk06: No, I don't think we've seen any change in our expectations there. I mean, I think the talent market remains as it has been for the last several quarters. It's a challenging market, particularly in parts of the business where high growth and there's a strong demand for talent across IT modernization and energy and climate and those types of areas, cyber. But, I mean, generally, you know, again, I would say that we've generally been able to add the headcount we need. We are investing in, again, recruiting. And, you know, but it is a challenging and highly competitive environment right now.
spk04: Okay, great.
spk06: Thank you very much. Good to hear you, Mark.
spk02: We have no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back to management for closing remarks.
spk06: Thank you for participating in today's call. We appreciate your participation and look forward to seeing you at upcoming investor events.
spk02: Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes the conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
spk01: The conference will begin shortly. To raise your hand during Q&A, you can dial star 1 1.
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