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spk06: and answer session. To participate, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear a message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, simply press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I will hand the call over to the Head of Investor Relations, Rayford Garabrant. Please go ahead.
spk10: Rayford Garabrant Thank you, Carmen. Good morning to everyone and welcome to InterDigital's second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. I am Rayford Garbrandt, head of investor relations for InterDigital. With me on today's call are Liren Chen, our president and CEO, and Rich Breske, our CFO. Consistent with prior calls, we will offer some highlights about the quarter and the company and then open the call up for questions. For additional details, you can access our earnings release and slide presentation that accompany this call on our investor relations website. Before we begin our remarks, I need to remind you that in this call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding our current beliefs, plans, and expectations, which are not guarantees of future performance and are made only as of the date hereof. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results and events to differ materially from results and events contemplated by such forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties include those described in the risk factors section of our 2023 annual report on Form 10-K and in our other SEC filings. In addition, today's presentation may contain references to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the supplemental materials posted to the investor relations section of our website. With that taken care of, I will turn the call over to Lyrica.
spk03: Thank you, Reefer. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. I'm pleased to share that we have delivered Q2 results at $223 million. That far exceeds the top end of our guidance for the quarter. A record first half revenue of $487 million. And we have raised our 2024 full year revenue guidance by $70 million to a new range of $690 million to $740 million as a result of the continued positive momentum in the business. Our financial results, which Rich will cover in more detail, were driven by a new device license with Google and multiple court wins in our litigation with Lenovo. In addition, we continue to drive our innovation forward, and so our video portfolio confirmed as one of the highest quality in the world. Our new license with Google is an example of the importance of our innovation to a wide array of consumer devices. The agreement licenses a range of devices, including pixel smartphones and Fitbit wearable devices, to our cellular, Wi-Fi, and HEVC video patterns. It renews the agreement we already had with Google for 4G and expands Google's license to cover our growing portfolio of 5G assets. In addition to Google, this morning we also announced a new license agreement with Panasonic, covering our 4G and 5G assets, as well as our Wi-Fi and HEVC video patents. Next, let me highlight several positive developments on the litigation front. In our dispute with Lenovo, the UK Court of Appeal handed us a resounding victory in the appeal of our friend licensing judgment. The court increased the amount that Lenovo must pay for a license for cellular patents through the end of 2023 by more than $55 million to just over $240 million. The court also confirmed that Lenovo must pay for all the past sales going back to 2007. And the court required Lenovo to pay our legal expenses for the appeal. While I believe there are multiple reasons the value of cellular innovation is even higher, we are pleased that the Court of Appeal decision has significantly increased the licensing fee Lenovo must pay. This decision is important, not only in terms of our ongoing negotiations with Lenovo, but also because of its potential impact in other licenses, SEP licenses. We believe that paying in full for past sales could help us receive fair compensation for the use of our innovation from other licenses, removing incentive for our implementer to hold out and delay in taking our license. While the Court of Peer Routing gave us a litigation win in our dispute with Lenovo, it's important to keep in mind that this decision only covers a cellular license through the end of 2023. In May, a court in Germany awarded Interdigital an injunction against Lenovo's infringement of our cellular patents. The German court heavily criticized Lenovo's behavior through the course of our negotiations and ruled that Interdigital has acted in a frank manner at all times. As we are pleased with our litigation wins, we remain committed to sign a forward-looking agreement with Lenovo that fairly reflects the value of fundamental innovation in wireless, video, and AI. Our arbitration to decide the monetary terms of a license with Samsung for mobile devices continue to be on track. In July, we completed a two weeks long arbitration hearing, and we hope to have a final decision by end of this year. As a reminder, Samsung already agreed to take a license to our portfolio from January 1st of 2023, and this binding agreement will determine the final value of the license. The license is in addition to the agreement we have signed with Samsung at the start of this year, which covers Samsung's digital TV and displays. While many of the details or dedications we follow are case specific, One common thread is that Quartz has consistently recognized the quality of wireless video and AI innovation and confirmed that we conduct licensing negotiations in a frank manner. Our innovation pipeline has never been stronger. Not only do we own one of the leading 5G portfolios where we are in the top five worldwide when analyzing both quality and quantity, but we are also among the leaders in video innovation. We are one of the largest and highest quality portfolio in HEVC, the video compression standard that is a codec of choice for a growing range of devices and services. Our strength in video is also clear in versatile video coding, or VVC, the latest video compression standard, which was finalized a few years ago and now it's in early stage of deployment. A recent report from LexisNexis confirmed that we are among the top five owners of HDVC and VVC patents when assessed in terms of both quantity and quality. As its name suggests, one of the cornerstones of VVC is its versatility and its ability to support a wide range of occasions in the area such as augmented and virtual reality. And we are excited about its potential to open up new use cases for our video innovation. Video is also one of the areas where we are among the leaders in application of AI to make video network more efficient. The depth and breadth of our video innovation is why we believe our video portfolio will be a long-term driver of shareholder value across a broad array of devices and services. This includes what we believe is a considerable greenfield opportunity in cloud-based video services, where we continue to make progress. In summary, our performance in the second quarter far exceeded the outlook. and highlights how we continue to execute our strategy and strengthen our innovation pipeline to support long-term growth. Given our all-time record revenue for the first half of the year and our increasing momentum across the business, we are raising our full-year revenue guidance by $70 million to between $690 million and $740 million. With that, I'll hand you over to Rich, who will talk through the numbers in more detail.
spk02: Thanks, Liren. I'm pleased to share that in Q2, we delivered revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and non-GAAP EPS, all far exceeding the high end of our guidance range. Total revenue of $223 million increased 120% year-over-year. As Liren discussed, the UK Court of Appeal ruling increased the lump sum royalty Lenovo must pay for a cellular license through 2023 from $185 million to just over $240 million. In 2023, we deferred recognizing a portion of the prior award as a conservative measure pending the appellate process. The UK Court of Appeal ruling, together with our latest Google agreement, drove our catch-up revenue in the quarter. Meanwhile, higher recurring revenue from CE and IoT mostly offset the 2023 expiration of our Huawei agreement while we continued to negotiate that renewal. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter of $158 million equates to an adjusted EBITDA margin close to 71% as the vast majority of the revenue upside flowed through to adjusted EBITDA. Non-GAAP EPS came in at a robust $4.57 per share. As Lyra noted, we had a record first half. In fact, each of our first two quarters this year ranked in the top five of the company's history in terms of revenue, combining for a total of $487 million of revenue and delivering an aggregate $288 million of adjusted EBITDA and $8.14 of non-GAAP EPS. These results provide further demonstration of the power of our business model. Our investments in fundamental technologies drive top line growth, while the reuse of those technologies across multiple verticals delivers high margins and drives cash flow. Moving on to capital allocation, in Q2, we repaid the $126 million of remaining principal on our 2024 notes. We also issued a net 324,000 shares to cover the conversion premium. However, the resulting dilution was fully offset by corresponding options we held and exercised under our related note hedge transactions. We had partially funded the purchase of those options through the sale of ones with an initial strike price of $109, which will expire over the balance of this year. Net-net, based on the closing stock price at settlement, the note hedge spared us roughly $37 million of dilution. In late July, we collected the additional $55 million payment from Lenovo, plus the reimbursement of a portion of our legal expenses. We expect this and other receipts from existing licensees alone will drive close to $100 million of free cash flow in Q3. Our strong cash flow, combined with a cash balance over $750 million, supports our continued return of capital to shareholders. In Q2, we repurchased approximately 300,000 shares for $35 million, bringing our year-to-date total to over 600,000 shares for $64 million. and we still have more than $230 million left on the current buyback authorization. Since we paid our first dividend in 2011, we have now returned over $1.8 billion to shareholders through share buybacks and dividends. In that time, we've reduced our outstanding share count by almost 45% from more than 45 million shares to just over 25 million shares. We exit Q2 with recurring revenue of $96 million. Based only on existing customers, for Q3, we are currently guiding to adjusted EBITDA of about 38 million and non-GAAP earnings per share of 75 cents, in each case at the midpoint. Of course, any additional agreements we sign in Q3 would be additive to those amounts. As Liren mentioned, we're increasing our full year 2024 guidance by $70 million and expect to deliver revenue in the range of 690 to $740 million. We now expect full year adjusted EBITDA of roughly $400 million at the midpoint with a margin of 55%. This compares to our prior midpoint of about 325 million with a 50% margin. Furthermore, we now expect non-GAAP earnings per share of more than $10.30 per share at the midpoint, representing an increase of more than $2.20 per share compared to our prior guidance. With that, I'll turn it back to Rafer.
spk10: Thanks, Rich. Before moving to Q&A, I'm excited to announce that we'll be hosting an investor day in New York City on Tuesday, September 10th. This will be our first investor day under the current management team and we are excited to update investors on our business and our longer-term vision for continued growth. We hope that you can make it in person or join virtually. Please see today's press release for registration details. In addition to our Investor Day, we'll be attending a number of conferences in Q3, including the B of A Virtual SMIT Conference, the BWS Conference in New York, the Jefferies and Evercore Tech Conferences in Chicago, and Sadoti's Virtual Small Cap Conference. Please reach out to your representatives at those firms if you'd like to schedule a meeting. Now, Carmen, we are ready to take questions.
spk06: Thank you. And as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press the star key and then 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To remove yourself from the queue, press star 1-1 again.
spk05: Please stand by while I compile the Q&A roster. One moment for our first question, please.
spk06: And it comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please proceed.
spk08: Perfect. Thank you, guys, and congrats here on a nice quarter. Laryn, maybe one for you to start out with. Very interesting commentary on the VVC patents and maybe potential for new use cases there. When you think about the application of your portfolio for VR, AR use cases. Can you just give us a little bit more detail? Would those be new licensees that you're signing agreements with? Would those be existing ones? And just when you think about timing of when that might come in, how far do you think those sort of agreements might be?
spk03: Hey, Arjun, good morning. Yes, so what I was referring to is we have a lot of strengths in the VVC portfolio, which is the latest video KUDAK. When we talk about the XRO, the AR versus VR use cases here, keep in mind a fairly large portion of our portfolio would be applicable to that use case, in addition to the VVC. For example, our HEVC patent will be applicable to them, as well as our core patenting connectivity, the wireless connectivity, either with cellular 5G or Wi-Fi patent portfolio will be applicable to them. Regarding whether there will be standalone licenses versus a combination of others, it really depends on who are the makers of those devices. There are existing large customers who make XR devices in addition to other devices. And in those contexts, we will most likely negotiate in combination of other devices. And there's also other vendors who, let's say, only make XR devices. So it's hard to say generically how this will play out, but we, as usual, will try to get a fair return for our important innovations. And frankly, try to make a deal under the friend obligations and make sure the customer gets a good value of what they are building on top of our innovation.
spk08: OK, helpful, understood. And then I had a couple of questions on Lenovo, if I could. One for you, Aaron, and one for Rich. It seems like there's some maybe back and forth on pricing still. You got the appellate court decision in your favor, but I don't think there's a go-forward agreement signed yet. Can you just give us your perspective on where you stand on what the royalty rate should be for that contract? And then for Rich, just wanted to double-check, is there any more either cash flow or catch-up Reverec left from that Lenovo contract that we should expect in the back half of 24 or go forward? Thank you.
spk03: Yes. Hey, Arjun, let me take the first question here. So our, as you refer to back and forth litigation with Lenovo, there are multiple pieces. The first one is what I just started opening with a court of appeal decision. This is really a, you know, appeal cases come from the initial trial case. Frankly, what decided last year and we win overwhelmingly in the appeal case. Frankly, we win all the issues and where the court raised the award from the trial court case, we also win on the past sales issue, which is a very important issue as I refer to goes beyond just Lenovo. So in that context here, and by the way, the court also issued us legal expenses, order Lenovo to pay for the legal bill that we cost for the appeal case. So in that context, that's essentially the decision. It's also important to know that particular decision only covers sales up to end of 2023, right? We are obviously in 2024 now. So Lenovo is unlicensed for seller patents. And that's why we were seeking, you know, essentially injunction against them in Germany, which we win of May of this year. So currently they are enjoined from setting cellular devices that include their cell phones and their cellular enabled tablets and laptops in Germany. So that's already been. It's also worth noting that we did have a separate license agreement where they are paying us for HEVC patents. And frankly, there are other assets in our portfolio that continue to be infringing, including our Wi-Fi patents and other implementation patents. So we currently have a case against them in ITC in the U.S. where we are asserting multiple patents against them. So there are actually multiple pieces here, but as I mentioned, continue to, you know, repeating on this particular issue. Our goal is always to get a forward-looking license going forward, and that's fairly reflecting the, you know, different assets we have in the portfolio. That's research to the current status with Lenovo.
spk02: And Arjun, regarding the cash, I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we collected the additional $55 million that was awarded actually in the last month. along with the fee reimbursement that was part of that order where Lenovo had to reimburse part of our litigation expenses. As far as going forward revenue, the full process could play out further with potentially a request to appeal to the UK Supreme Court. So until it's fully resolved, our accounting at this point fundamentally represents an estimate. As before, it's a conservative estimate, just updated for the facts as they exist today.
spk07: All right, perfect. Thank you again.
spk06: Thank you. And as a reminder, it's star 11 to get in the queue if you do have a question. One moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Anja Sonderstrom with Sidoti. Please proceed.
spk04: Thank you for taking my questions, and congratulations on the nice progress here and the Panasonic win you announced today. Is that included in the third quarter guidance?
spk02: Anya, we were having a little trouble hearing you. I think you were asking about the Panasonic announcement today and whether or not that was factored into the Q3 guidance. Is that correct?
spk04: Yes. Thank you.
spk02: Yes. Yes, it is.
spk04: Okay, thank you. And so then the full year guidance, it kind of implies you will see the recurring revenue decline. Can you just remind us of the puts and takes there?
spk02: Yeah, so the full year guidance, which we increased by $70 million to $690 to $740 million, does, you know, bake in some new business growth there. just as our prior guidance had. Of course, with the results that we delivered in Q2, that already drove us above that prior range, so that warranted the increase.
spk04: Okay, thank you. That was all for me.
spk06: Thank you. As I see no further questions in the queue, I will turn the call back to CEO Liren Chen for closing remarks.
spk03: Thank you, Operator. Before we close, I'd like to thank all our employees for their dedication and contribution to InterDigital, as well as our many partners and customers for an all-time record-setting first half of 2024. Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call, and we look forward to seeing you all at our investor day.
spk06: And thank you all for participating in today's conference. You may now disconnect. you Bye. Good day, everyone, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to InterDigital Center. Second quarter 2024 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To participate, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear a message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, simply press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I will hand the call over to the head of investor relations, Rayford Garabrant. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you, Carmen. Good morning to everyone, and welcome to InterDigital's second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. I am Rayford Garabrant, head of investor relations for InterDigital. With me on today's call are Liren Chen, our president and CEO, and Rich Breske, our CFO. Consistent with prior calls, we will offer some highlights about the quarter, and the company, and then open the call up for questions. For additional details, you can access our earnings release and slide presentation that accompany this call on our investor relations website. Before we begin our remarks, I need to remind you that in this call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding our current beliefs, plans, and expectations, which are not guarantees of future performance and are made only as of the date hereof. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results and events to differ materially from results and events contemplated by such forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties include those described in the Risk Factors section of our 2023 Annual Report on Form 10-K and in our other SEC filings. In addition, today's presentation may contain references to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the supplemental materials posted to the investor relations section of our website. With that taken care of, I will turn the call over to Lyric.
spk03: Thank you, Reefer. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. I'm pleased to share that we have delivered Q2 results at $223 million. That far exceeds the top end of our guidance for the quarter. a record first-half revenue of $487 million, and we have raised our 2024 full-year revenue guidance by $70 million to a new range of $690 million to $740 million as a result of the continued positive momentum in the business. Our financial results, which Rich will cover in more detail, were driven by a new device license with Google and multiple court wins in our litigation with Lenovo. In addition, we continue to drive our innovation forward, and so our video portfolio confirmed as one of the highest quality in the world. Our new license with Google is an example of the importance of our innovation to a wide array of consumer devices. The agreement licensed a range of devices, including pixel smartphones and Fitbit wearable devices, to our cellular, Wi-Fi, and HEVC video patents. It renews the agreement we already had with Google for 4G and expands Google's license to cover our growing portfolio of 5G assets. In addition to Google, this morning we also announced a new license agreement with Panasonic. covering our 4G and 5G assets, as well as our Wi-Fi and HEVC video patents. Next, let me highlight several positive developments on the litigation front. In our dispute with Lenovo, the UK Court of Appeal handed us a resounding victory in the appeal of our friend licensing judgment. The court increased the amount Lenovo must pay for a license for our cellular patents through the end of 2023 by more than $55 million to just over $240 million. The court also confirmed that Lenovo must pay for all the past sales going back to 2007. And the court required Lenovo to pay our legal expenses for the appeal. While I believe there are multiple reasons the value of cellular innovation is even higher, we are pleased that the Court of Appeal decision has significantly increased the licensing fee Lenovo must pay. This decision is important, not only in terms of our ongoing negotiations with Lenovo, but also because of its potential impact in other licenses, SEP licenses. We believe that paying in full for past sales could help us receive fair compensation for the use of our innovation from other licenses, removing incentive for our implementer to hold out and delay in taking our license. While the Court of Peer Routing gave us a litigation win in our dispute with Lenovo, it's important to keep in mind that this decision only covers a cellular license through the end of 2023. In May, a court in Germany awarded Interdigital an injunction against Lenovo's infringement of our cellular patents. The German court heavily criticized Lenovo's behavior through the course of our negotiations and ruled that Interdigital has acted in a frank manner at all times. As we are pleased with our litigation wins, we remain committed to sign a forward-looking agreement with Lenovo that fairly reflects the value of fundamental innovation in wireless, video, and AI. Our arbitration to decide the monetary terms of a license with Samsung for mobile devices continue to be on track. In July, we completed a two weeks long arbitration hearing, and we hope to have a final decision by end of this year. As a reminder, Samsung already agreed to take a license to our portfolio from January 1st of 2023. And this binding agreement will determine the final value of the license. The license is in addition to the agreement we have signed with Samsung at the start of this year, which covers Samsung's digital TV and displays. While many of the details or dedications we follow are case specific, One common thread is that Quartz has consistently recognized the quality of wireless video and AI innovation and confirmed that we conduct licensing negotiations in a friendly manner. Our innovation pipeline has never been stronger. Not only do we own one of the leading 5G portfolios where we are in the top five worldwide when analyzing both quality and quantity, but we are also among the leaders in video innovation. We are one of the largest and highest quality portfolio in HEVC, the video compression standard that is a codec of choice for a growing range of devices and services. Our strength in video is also clear in versatile video coding, or VVC, the latest video compression standard, which was finalized a few years ago and now it's in early stage of deployment. A recent report from LexisNexis confirmed that we are among the top five owners of HDVC and VVC patents we assess in terms of both quantity and quality. As its name suggests, one of the cornerstones of VVC is its versatility. and its ability to support a wide range of occasions in the area such as augmented and virtual reality. And we are excited about its potential to open up new use cases for our video innovation. Video is also one of the areas where we are among the leaders in application of AI to make video network more efficient. The depth and breadth of our video innovation is why we believe our video portfolio will be a long-term driver of shareholder value across a broad array of devices and services. This includes what we believe is a considerable greenfield opportunity in cloud-based video services, where we continue to make progress. In summary, our performance in the second quarter far exceeded the outlook. and highlights how we continue to execute our strategy and strengthen our innovation pipeline to support long-term growth. Given our all-time record revenue for the first half of the year and our increasing momentum across the business, we are raising our full-year revenue guidance by $70 million to between $690 million and $740 million. With that, I'll hand you over to Rich, who will talk through the numbers in more detail.
spk02: Thanks, Liren. I'm pleased to share that in Q2, we delivered revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and non-GAAP EPS, all far exceeding the high end of our guidance range. Total revenue of $223 million increased 120% year-over-year. As Liren discussed, the UK Court of Appeal ruling increased the lump sum royalty Lenovo must pay for a cellular license through 2023 from $185 million to just over $240 million. In 2023, we deferred recognizing a portion of the prior award as a conservative measure pending the appellate process. The UK Court of Appeal ruling, together with our latest Google agreement, drove our catch-up revenue in the quarter. Meanwhile, higher recurring revenue from CE and IoT mostly offset the 2023 expiration of our Huawei agreement while we continued to negotiate that renewal. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter of $158 million equates to an adjusted EBITDA margin close to 71% as the vast majority of the revenue upside flowed through to adjusted EBITDA. Non-GAAP EPS came in at a robust $4.57 per share. As Lyra noted, we had a record first half. In fact, each of our first two quarters this year ranked in the top five of the company's history in terms of revenue, combining for a total of $487 million of revenue and delivering an aggregate $288 million of adjusted EBITDA and $8.14 of non-GAAP EPS. These results provide further demonstration of the power of our business model. Our investments in fundamental technologies drive top line growth, while the reuse of those technologies across multiple verticals delivers high margins and drives cash flow. Moving on to capital allocation, in Q2, we repaid the $126 million of remaining principal on our 2024 notes. We also issued a net 324,000 shares to cover the conversion premium. However, the resulting dilution was fully offset by corresponding options we held and exercised under our related note hedge transactions. We had partially funded the purchase of those options through the sale of ones with an initial strike price of $109, which will expire over the balance of this year. Net-net, based on the closing stock price at settlement, the note hedge spared us roughly $37 million of dilution. In late July, we collected the additional $55 million payment from Lenovo, plus the reimbursement of a portion of our legal expenses. We expect this and other receipts from existing licensees alone will drive close to $100 million of free cash flow in Q3. Our strong cash flow, combined with a cash balance over $750 million, supports our continued return of capital to shareholders. In Q2, we repurchased approximately 300,000 shares for $35 million, bringing our year-to-date total to over 600,000 shares for $64 million. And we still have more than $230 million left on the current buyback authorization. Since we paid our first dividend in 2011, we have now returned over $1.8 billion to shareholders through share buybacks and dividends. In that time, we've reduced our outstanding share count by almost 45% from more than 45 million shares to just over 25 million shares. We exit Q2 with recurring revenue of $96 million. Based only on existing customers, for Q3 we are currently guiding to adjusted EBITDA of about $38 million and non-GAAP earnings per share of 75 cents, in each case at the midpoint. Of course, any additional agreements we sign in Q3 would be additive to those amounts. As Liren mentioned, We are increasing our full year 2024 guidance by $70 million and expect to deliver revenue in the range of 690 to $740 million. We now expect full year adjusted EBITDA of roughly $400 million at the midpoint with a margin of 55%. This compares to our prior midpoint of about 325 million with a 50% margin. Furthermore, we now expect non-GAAP earnings per share of more than $10.30 per share at the midpoint, representing an increase of more than $2.20 per share compared to our prior guidance. With that, I'll turn it back to Rayford.
spk10: Thanks, Rich. Before moving to Q&A, I'm excited to announce that we'll be hosting an Investor Day in New York City on Tuesday, September 10th. This will be our first Investor Day under the current management team and we are excited to update investors on our business and our longer-term vision for continued growth. We hope that you can make it in person or join virtually. Please see today's press release for registration details. In addition to our Investor Day, we'll be attending a number of conferences in Q3, including the B of A Virtual SMIT Conference, the BWS Conference in New York, the Jefferies and Evercore Tech Conferences in Chicago, and Sadoti's Virtual Small Cap Conference. Please reach out to your representatives at those firms if you'd like to schedule a meeting. Now, Carmen, we are ready to take questions.
spk06: Thank you. And as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press the star key and then 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To remove yourself from the queue, press star 1-1 again.
spk05: Please stand by while I compile the Q&A roster. One moment for our first question, please.
spk06: And it comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please proceed.
spk08: Perfect. Thank you, guys, and congrats here on a nice quarter. Laren, maybe one for you to start out with. Very interesting commentary on the VVC patents and maybe potential for new use cases there. When you think about the application of your portfolio for VR, AR use cases. Can you just give us a little bit more detail? Would those be new licensees that you're signing agreements with? Would those be existing ones? And just when you think about timing of when that might come in, how far do you think those sort of agreements might be?
spk03: Hey, Arjun, good morning. Yes, so what I was referring to is we have a lot of strengths in the VVC portfolio, which is the latest video codec. When we talk about the XRO, you know, the AR versus VR use cases here, keep in mind a fairly large portion of our portfolio would be applicable to that use case in addition to the VVC. For example, our HEVC pattern will be applicable to them as well as, you know, our core patterns in connectivity. You know, the wireless connectivity either over cellular 5G or over, you know, Wi-Fi pattern portfolio will be applicable to them. Regarding whether there will be standalone licenses versus a combination of others, it really depends on who are the makers of those devices. There are existing large customers who make XR devices in addition to other devices. And in those contexts, we will most likely negotiate in combination of other devices. And there's also other vendors who, let's say, only make XR devices. So it's hard to say generically how this will play out, but we, as usual, will try to get a fair return for our important innovations. And frankly, try to make a deal under the front end obligations and make sure the customer gets a good value of what they are building on top of our innovation.
spk08: OK, helpful, understood. And then I had a couple of questions on Lenovo, if I could. One for you, Aaron, and one for Rich. It seems like there's some way back and forth on pricing still. You got the appellate court decision in your favor, but I don't think there is a go-forward agreement signed yet. Can you just give us your perspective on where you stand on what the royalty rate should be for that contract? And then for Rich, just wanted to double-check, is there any more either cash flow or catch-up Reverec left from that Lenovo contract that we should expect in the back half of 24 or go forward? Thank you.
spk03: Yes. Hey, Arjun, let me take the first question here. So our, as you refer to back and forth, there are multiple pieces. The first one is what I just started opening with a court of appeal decision. This is really a, you know, appeal cases come from the initial trial case. Frankie was decided last year and we win overwhelmingly in the appeal case. Frankie, we win all the issues and where the court raised the award from the trial court case, we also win on the past sales issue, which is a very important issue as I refer to goes beyond just Lenovo. So in that context here, and by the way, the court also issued us legal expenses, order Lenovo to pay for the legal bill that we cost for the appeal case. So in that context, that's essentially the decision. It's also important to know that particular decision only covers sales up to end of 2023, right? We are obviously in 2024 now. So Lenovo is unlicensed for cellular patents. And that's why we were seeking, you know, essentially injunction against them in Germany, which we win of May of this year. So currently they are enjoined from setting cellular devices that include their cell phones and their cellular enabled tablets and laptops in Germany. So that's already been. It's also worth noting that we did have a separate license agreement where they are paying us for HEVC patents. And frankly, there are other assets in our portfolio that continue to be infringing, including our Wi-Fi patents and other implementation patents. So we currently have a case against them in ITC in the US, where we are asserting multiple patents against them. So there are actually multiple pieces here, but as I continue to repeat on this particular issue, Our goal is always to get a forward-looking license going forward, and that's fairly reflecting the different assets we have in the portfolio. That's due to the current status with Lenovo.
spk02: And Arjun, regarding the cash, I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we collected the additional $55 million that was awarded actually in the last month, along with the fee reimbursement that was part of that order. where Lenovo had to reimburse part of our litigation expenses. As far as going forward revenue, the full process could play out further with potentially a request to appeal to the UK Supreme Court. So until it's fully resolved, our accounting at this point fundamentally represents an estimate. As before, it's a conservative estimate just updated for the facts as they exist today.
spk07: All right, perfect. Thank you again.
spk06: Thank you. And as a reminder, it's star 11 to get in the queue if you do have a question. One moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Anja Sonderstrom with Sidoti. Please proceed.
spk04: Thank you for taking my questions, and congratulations on the nice progress here and the Panasonic win you announced today. Is that included in the third quarter guidance or?
spk02: Anya, we were having a little trouble hearing you. I think you were asking about the Panasonic announcement today and whether or not that was factored into the Q3 guidance. Is that correct?
spk04: Yes, thank you.
spk02: Yes, yes it is.
spk04: Okay, thank you. So then the full year guidance, It kind of implies you will see the recurring revenue decline. Can you just remind us of the puts and takes there?
spk02: Yeah, so the full-year guidance, which we increased by $70 million to $690 to $740 million, does bake in some new business growth there, just as our prior guidance had. Of course, with the results that we delivered in Q2, That already drove us above that prior range, so that warranted the increase.
spk04: Okay, thank you. That was all for me.
spk06: Thank you. As I see no further questions in the queue, I will turn the call back to CEO Liren Chen for closing remarks.
spk03: Thank you, operator. Before we close, I'd like to thank all our employees for their dedication and contribution to InterDigital. as well as our many partners and customers for an all-time record-setting first half of 2024. Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call, and we look forward to seeing you all at our investor day.
spk06: And thank you all for participating in today's conference. You may now disconnect.
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