Iovance Biotherapeutics, Inc.

Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call

5/9/2024

spk16: Welcome to the Iovance biotherapeutics conference call to discuss first quarter 2024 results and recent corporate updates. My name is Livia and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference call over to Sarah Pellegrino, Senior Vice President, Best Relations and Corporate Communications at Iovance. Sarah, you may begin.
spk14: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining this conference call and webcast to discuss our first quarter 2024 results and recent corporate updates. Dr. Fred Vogt, our Interim President and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an introduction and summarize key updates on our U.S. commercial launch event and TAGV and our pipeline program. Jim Ziegler, EVP Commercial, will highlight our initial success with the U.S. commercial launch of mTAGV in advanced melanoma. Dr. Igor Walensky, COO, will comment on our commercial manufacturing experience and capacity expansion plans. Jean-Marc Fellemane, CFO, will review our financial results. And Dr. Frederick Finckenstein, Chief Medical Officer, will review key pipeline updates, including upcoming clinical data presentations at ASCO, and new next-generation approaches. Dr. Brian Gaspin, Executive Vice President, Medical Affairs, and Dr. Raj Puri, Executive Vice President, Regulatory Affairs, are also on the call and available for the Q&A session. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release that can be found on our corporate website at iovance.com. Before we start, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call will include forward-looking statements regarding IOVANCE's goals, business focus, business plans and transactions, revenue, commercial activities, clinical trials and results, regulatory approvals and interactions, plans and strategies, research and preclinical activities, potential future applications of our technologies, manufacturing capabilities, regulatory feedback and guidance, payer interaction, licenses and collaborations, cash position and expense guidance, and future updates. Forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, including the risks and uncertainties described from time to time in our FTC filings. Our results may differ materially from those projected during today's call. we undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. With that, I will turn it over to Fred.
spk13: Thank you, Sarah, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to host our first quarter of 2024 results conference call. This has been a decisive year for Iovance following our first FDA approval and a strong start to the U.S. launch of Antagni for patients with advanced melanoma. We expect the positive momentum at Iovans will continue to build throughout 2024 as we ramp up the U.S. launch and execute across our broad clinical pipeline. To begin, we are very pleased that the high initial demand for Ampagni continues to accelerate. Demand has increased month over month since approval and expected to grow further throughout the year. As of today, more than 100 patients are already enrolled for Ampagni therapy, and most are expected to be ready for infusion across the second and early third quarters of 2024. In addition, more than 60 additional patients have been identified as ATCs and are expected to enroll soon. As existing and new ATCs continue to build experience, we expect patient enrollments to steadily increase throughout the year, supporting our expectations for sustained growth. As we anticipated, interest is very high at our ATCs, and they are demonstrating that they have the training, infrastructure, and capabilities to treat patients with antagony, which Jim will further highlight. We remain on track to have 50 total ATCs by the end of this month. We also set a new goal of at least 70 ATCs by the end of this year, representing the largest ever number of ATCs for a cell therapy launch. We are pleased to see positive reimbursement trends, which is a key indicator for success in adoption. Positive reimbursement decisions are supported by our clinical data, and the recent addition of Antacne is the preferred second line for subsequent therapy in the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, or NCCN, guidelines. Time to treatment will accelerate as ATCs establish a solid foundation for broad market access and reimbursement, which will add to momentum. Jim will describe this in more detail. In terms of commercial manufacturing, we have two FDA-approved manufacturing sites in sufficient capacity to meet near-term demand and launch, setting a new bar for cell therapy launches. Our commercial manufacturing experience is very positive and is consistent with our prior clinical experience. We have successfully manufactured and delivered an antagonist within our target turnaround time of 34 days. ATCs have observed sufficient availability of manufacturing slots and report a positive experience in the scheduling process, which is critical for broader utilization. We expect to have ample capacity to meet the anticipated ramp-up in demand this year. Finally, long-term expansion is already underway to more than double our currently built capacity for future growth. In addition to the U.S. launch, we are working to enter new markets that can more than double the total addressable advanced melanoma patient population for FTAG-B. Regulatory submissions remain on track this year in the EU, UK, and Canada, where we have the potential to begin driving significant additional revenue by the end of 2025. We also continue to advance and expand our robust and exciting pipeline, including two registrational programs, as well as new next-generation approaches that Frederick will highlight on this call. As a fully integrated company that's executing a U.S. launch and developing a broad pipeline, IVANZ is well positioned to remain the global leader in innovating, developing, and delivering pill cell therapy for patients with cancer. I'll now hand it over to Jim, our Executive Vice President of Commercial, who will speak in more detail about our launch metrics.
spk06: Thank you, Fred. We are excited about the potential for MTAGV to transform the treatment paradigm and advance melanoma. My objectives today are to highlight initial U.S. launch metrics, which are supported by robust demand among ATCs and patients, as well as progress with payers. ATCs are the key driver of demand and patient enrollments for MTagV. Launching with 30 ATCs was a testament to the significant unmet need in advanced melanoma and each center's high level of commitment to offer MTagV for their patients. Today, there are more than 40 ATCs and we remain on track to meet our goal of 50 total ATCs by the end of May. Due to increasing interest by hospitals that offer MTagV, we are now targeting at least 70 total ATCs by the end of the year. As Fred mentioned earlier, ATCs have enrolled more than 100 patients for MTagV treatment. A patient enrollment is defined as an MTagV treatment decision by the provider and patient. The patient enrollment is followed by commercial payer prior authorization and a scheduled tumor procurement for manufacturing. Based on the patient journey timeline, and CagV infusions for currently enrolled patients would likely occur across the second quarter and early third quarter. In addition, existing ATCs are screening an increasing number of patients for treatment eligibility. With more than 60 patients currently in screening today, we expect a high conversion of additional patients to MTAGV patient enrollment in the near term for potential infusions in the third quarter. We are observing month-over-month growth, and we anticipate sustained growth throughout the year as the number of ATCs expand and there is broader utilization of MTAGV. In the short time since approval, favorable reimbursement trends and medical coverage policies have set us up for success and broad access for patients. Early launch data indicates that more than 75% of patients enrolled for MTagV are commercially insured, which aligns with our expectations. Thus far, payers responsible for more than 200 million lives have approved at least one patient for MTagV treatment. And notably, 13 payers responsible for approximately 90 million covered lives have already published medical coverage policies that are consistent with label, clinical trials, and the recently updated NCCN guidelines. We expect the remaining payers to issue similar favorable medical coverage policies and that timelines for financial clearance will accelerate as more payers issue coverage policies. In summary, we are extremely pleased with the early launch progress, and we expect steady growth as ATCs gain treatment experience, our ATC network expands, and community referrals increase over time. I look forward to providing future updates on these important ATC reimbursement and performance metrics. I would like to acknowledge the very talented cross-functional teamwork at IOVAN. I am even more pleased in the deep partnerships our team have established with ATCs. Collectively, our goal is to broaden and accelerate patient access to Antagvy. I will now pass the call to Igor Balinski, our Chief Operating Officer, to highlight our manufacturing progress.
spk17: Thank you, Jim. Today, I'd like to highlight our current manufacturing capabilities, experience with the Antagvy U.S. launch, as well as our capacity expansion plans to support significant further growth and demand that we anticipate in the U.S. from geographic expansion and from our exciting clinical pipeline. Manufacturing is a core competency for us at iVANCE, and we built our own manufacturing facility, iVANCE Cell Therapy Center, or ICTC, in Philadelphia. ICTC is one of the largest cell therapy manufacturing facilities in the world and the only one specifically designed for till manufacturing. ICTC is now FDA approved for commercial manufacturing of MTAB for the U.S. market and continues to serve patients in our clinical trials in melanoma, lung cancer, and other indications in the U.S., Europe, Australia, and other geographies. ICTC has been responsible for most of the commercial Ontagli manufacturing volume to date. In addition to ICTC, the FDA approved our contract manufacturer site for commercial manufacturing of Ontagli. Having two approved facilities provides us with additional flexibility and capacity for both commercial and clinical patients. Overall, we believe that our manufacturing capabilities and capacity are setting a new bar for cell therapy launches. and we're strategically planning ahead for anticipated demand in the future. Together, turning to our early experience with commercial launch, we're executing as planned. The commercial manufacturing experience to date is consistent with prior clinical experience. Turnaround time has been on target with initial launch expectations of approximately 34 days from receipt of tumor tissue to return shipment of Antagly to the ATC, which is then followed by lymphodepletion and infusion. We are confident in our capacity to meet the current and projected demand of the US launch in our clinical trials, as well as to support iAdvance's planned future growth. ICTC, as built today, has the capacity to provide TIL therapies for more than 2,000 patients per year. A competent manufacturing team is important in biotech and cell therapy in particular. Right now we are staffed appropriately for launch and we are continuing to add headcounts to meet the demand for commercial and tag lead as well as for our clinical trials. To fulfill our staffing needs, the ICTC Philadelphia location provides access to talent with cell therapy and gene therapy experience at other companies in the region as well as the next generation of talent through the local schools and resources. In preparation for increasing commercial demand in the U.S. and additional geographies and in support of our advancing clinical pipeline, further capacity expansion is now underway at ICTC and is expected to be completed in a few years. Building out the existing shell space at the facility is expected to enable ICTC to supply TIL therapies for more than 5,000 patients annually. Longer term, our vision is to supply TIL for over 10,000 patients annually from the ICTC campus. We have an option to construct another building at the ICTC campus and plan to drive additional efficiencies by incorporating increased automation in our manufacturing process. In summary, our team is excited to provide MTAGV and our investigational TIL therapies for patients with cancer. We're laser-focused on the quality of the manufacturing process in the spirit of doing everything right first time at every step, from incoming receipt of tumor sample to manufacturing and product release to outbound shipment of Antagby to the commercial ATCs and investigational tills to clinical trial sites. I'm available to answer additional questions during the Q&A, and I will now hand the call over to Jean-Marc, our Chief Financial Officer.
spk01: Thank you, Igor. Today, I will review our current cash position as well as our results for the quarter ended on March 31st, 2024. I will also highlight our 2024 outlook. As of March 31st, 2024, iEvents had cash, cash equivalents, investments and restricted cash of approximately $362.6 million. The current cash position and anticipated revenue from and are expected to be sufficient to fund current and planned operation well into the second half of 2025. Shifting to our first quarter financial results. Net loss for the first quarter on March 31st, 2024 was $113 million, or 42 cents per share, compared to a net loss of $107.4 million, or $0.50 per share, for the first quarter ended March 31st, 2023. The net loss for the first quarter of 2024 includes amortization of intangible assets acquired as part of the pro-looking transaction. Revenue for the first quarter ended March 31st, 2024 was $715,000, and comprised of sales of pro-looking in licensed market outside of the US. Cost of sales for the first quarter under March 31st, 2024 was $7.3 million, primarily related to inventoryable costs associated with sales of pro-looking and non-cash amortization expense for the acquired intangible asset for developed technology. There was no revenue or cost of sales in the first quarter ended March 31, 2023. Research and development expenses were $79.8 million for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024, a decrease of $2.9 million compared to $82.7 million for the same period ended March 31, 2023. The decrease was primarily attributable to the transition to commercial and tech-free manufacturing in the most recent quarter, partially offset by increased costs associated with the purchase of raw materials, clinical trials driven primarily by the Phase III TILBAN 301 clinical trial, and the planned EU regulatory submissions for liposomes. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $31.4 million for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024, an increase of $3.3 million compared to $28.1 million for the same period ended March 31, 2023. The increase was primarily attributable to increases in account and related costs, including stock-based compensation, to support the growth in the overall business and related corporate infrastructure, as well as costs incurred to support the commercialization of MTAG-V and Polonkey, partially offset by a decrease in legal costs. Regarding our outlook for this year, We continue to guide toward full-year 2024 cash burn in the range of 320 to 340 million dollars, excluding one-time expenses, and we'll continue to leverage opportunities to optimize spending. The U.S. launch of AntagV, as well as the sales of Proloquing used in conjunction with the AntagV treatment regimen, are expected to drive significant revenue in the second half of 2024 and into 2025 and beyond. As a reminder, revenue recognition for AntagV occurs upon infusion, like other cell therapies, so we expect to begin recognizing and reporting significant revenue in the second quarter of this For additional information, please see this afternoon's press release and our form 10Q to be filed later today. I will now hand the call to Frederick, our Chief Medical Officer, to discuss our clinical pipeline.
spk03: Thank you, Jean-Marc. I am pleased to speak today about our key clinical pipeline highlights in solid tumors, which, as you all know, represent more than 90% of all diagnosed cancers in the U.S. One of our key priorities is expanding the label for mTAGLI to address the need of patients with advanced melanoma in the frontline treatment setting. Our registrational phase three trial, TILBANS-301, is well underway and on track to support accelerated and full approvals of mTAGLI in combination with Pembrolizumab in frontline advanced melanoma, as well as regular approval of mTAGLI in post-anti-PD-1 melanoma. Global site activation, and patient enrollment continue with strong momentum in the U.S., Europe, Australia, Canada, and additional countries. Our frontline advanced melanoma strategy is supported by cohort 1A in our IOV COM202 trial in solid tumors and previously published data on TIL therapy in the pre-immune checkpoint inhibitor era. We look forward to an oral presentation of updated clinical data from cohort 1A, which continue to strongly support our frontline development plans at the American Society of Clinical Oncology, or ASCO, annual meeting on May 31, 2024. Shifting to our program in non-small cell lung cancer, we reported positive updates for our single arm registrational phase two trial, IOV-LUN202 in post-anti-PD-1 non-small cell lung cancer. We resumed enrollment for new patients within a very short time after the US FDA lifted our partial clinical trial hold in the first quarter. IOV LUN202 includes clinical sites in the U.S., Canada, and Europe with plans to include additional regions with strong track records for enrollment in lung cancer studies over the next few months. Enrollment has restarted with high demand, which is driven by encouraging data and further augmented by excitement from the approval of MTAG-B. We expect the registration cohorts to be fully enrolled in 2025. Current data from IOV-L1202 and the FDA interactions regarding our regulatory pathway continue to be positive and support our confidence in the opportunity for TIL cell therapy in lung cancer. The FDA has provided positive regulatory feedback on the proposed potency matrix for lifelucidin on small cell lung cancer during a recent Type D meeting and has previously announced that the design of the single-arm IOV-LUN2 trial may be acceptable for approval of lifelucidin post-anti-PD-1 non-small cell lung cancer. In other tumor types, we are starting a phase two trial of lifelucidin post-anti-PD-1 endometrial cancer, which is a significant opportunity for TIL cell therapy. Our phase two trial will include patients with advanced endometrial cancer who progressed after platinum-based chemotherapy and anti-PD1 therapy, regardless of mismatch repair status of the tumor. Our rationale is supported by the TIL mechanism of action, which may benefit both patient populations, as well as preclinical and manufacturing success data that we plan to report later this year. There is a significant unmet medical need and no currently approved treatment options for the vast majority of patients with endometrial cancer in the post-anti-PD-1 treatment setting. Given this unmet medical need and the enthusiasm we've received from gynecological oncologists, we expect to enroll quickly, and we look forward to seeing first data soon. As the leader in tilt cell therapy, Iovance is at the forefront of next-generation approaches patients and solidify our long-term leadership in the space. We reached an important milestone for our genetically modified TIL cell therapy, IOV4001, in the first in-human GM1201 trial in previously treated advanced melanoma or non-small cell lung cancer patients. The phase one safety portion concluded successfully, and we are progressing into the multicenter phase two efficacy stage of the trial. ILV4001 utilizes the talent technology licensed from Selectus to inactivate PD-1 during the TIL manufacturing process. We also have options to continue to develop other investigational gene edited TIL cell therapies with multiple knockout targets to potentially improve efficacy. We are also making great strides to advance additional next generation programs towards the clinic. In the third quarter of 2024, we plan to submit an investigational new drug application, or IMD, for a phase 1-2 clinical trial of IOV3001, a modified interleukin-2, or IL-2, fusion protein. At ASCO 2024, a poster will highlight preclinical data that support the potential for improved safety with robust effector T cell expansion with IOV3001. Lastly, On today's call, we are introducing IOV5001, a new next generation program. IOV5001 is a genetically engineered TIL cell therapy with inducible and tethered IL-12. The addition of IL-12 has augmented TIL anti-tumor activity in vitro. IOV5001 also builds on the improved efficacy of a prior generation IL-12 TIL therapy that was observed in a clinical trial at the National Cancer Institute, or NCI. IOV5001 is currently in IND-enabling studies. We plan to discuss IOV5001 with the FDA at an Interact meeting in the third quarter of 2024 and anticipate an IND submission in early 2025. I'm happy to address questions about these programs and additional trials during the Q&A session. I'll now turn the call over to the operator to begin the question and answer session.
spk16: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, simply press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question coming from the line of Michael Yee with Jeffrey Field on his cell phone.
spk18: Hey guys, thanks. Uh, congrats on all the progress. Uh, we have maybe a two part question. Um, uh, you gave some really great metrics around, uh, the indications of interest in the, um, enrollment numbers. Can you maybe just describe sort of the journey of time from, uh, enrolling and then getting reimbursed? And then I think sort of the 34 days to then inbound to get treated. I'm just trying to think about how many of the 100 people who've enrolled are likely to get treated and dose in this quarter and thinking about the consensus number and then thinking about how many of those would get treated in the third quarter. Maybe just talk a little about the journey and how you think about those 100 patients getting treated. Thank you.
spk13: Yeah, Mike, I can give you a little comment on that. So the patients right now that are being enrolled right now could be, in theory, treated in the second quarter, or when I say treated, I mean abused and recognized in the second quarter or early in the third quarter. That's because, as we've mentioned, it takes some time to do the financial clearance of the patients. They come in, and then they get resected, and then there's a target right now, which we're meeting of 34 days from the time we start manufacturing all the way through to completing the quality control testing. And then the patient is lymphoid-depleted and infused after that. It's a little different than the clinical trial. The clinical trial, we were able to move faster because the patients weren't on bridging therapy. In many cases now, they are on bridging therapy, and we have to do it this way anyway with the commercial product.
spk18: Okay. So just to be clear, patients have been treated in April, and then some of those patients, as you are going through it, would be treated in May and June as part of those hundreds.
spk13: Correct, then July and so on.
spk18: Okay, got it. Thank you.
spk16: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question coming from the lineup, Andrea Tan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
spk10: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe a follow-up there. Just wondering if you're able to provide some numbers around those comments, just of the 100 plus that have been enrolled. How many specifically have had their tumor resected thus far, and how many have received an infusion?
spk13: Yeah, hi, Andrea. We can't give you the detail, otherwise you would actually have revenues at that point. But what we can tell you is that right now, many of those patients have been resected. We're moving through the process with them. I want to stress the importance of the patients that enroll. Some of them will be infused, obviously, over that large time period that we just mentioned with Mike's question. We also have a few dropouts in OOS and stuff like that to account for as well. So it's very difficult for us to predict all that stuff. When we finally report revenues, we'll be able to say a little bit more about how that actually played out, the transition from enrolled numbers to revenues.
spk10: Got it. And the nature of the dropouts, if you're able to share a little bit more there.
spk13: Most of the time, the dropouts are caused by patient health issues. And sadly, some of the patients pass away while they're waiting for therapy, and we've actually had that happen. It's an unfortunate consequence of the these patients are in. That's usually what the issue is. The patient declines in health and is put on hospice or is passed away before MTAGV can be fully manufactured and tested for them. That's the driver of dropout rate for us.
spk10: Okay. Thank you.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question coming from Delaina. Peter Lawson with Barclays. Your line is open.
spk11: Great. Thank you so much. Thanks. Thanks for the details. Fred, just maybe you could provide some more granularity around the 100-plus patients that have enrolled for teal therapy, what percentage actually have insurance in place, and then the number of ATCs that have actually resected patients. Thank you.
spk06: Hi, Peter. It's Jim Ziegler here. Virtually all of the 100 plus patients have insurance or have cash, so that's not been an issue right now. And by definition, enrolled patient basically means there's the treatment decision, followed soon there by commercial payer prior authorization and the scheduled surgery.
spk11: Thank you. And then the ATCs that have actually resected the patient number?
spk13: Yeah, we can't tell you exactly that, Peter, right now, but it's a substantial number. Let's call it that. It's increasing daily or at least weekly, and it's getting up to the point where hopefully all or almost all of them will have a receptive patient in the not-too-distant future.
spk11: Richard, thank you. Just a final question. You mentioned that cash. What percentage of patients are paying in cash?
spk06: We haven't disclosed that.
spk11: Okay. Thank you so much. It's a low number.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question, coming from the lineup, Tyler VanVern with TD Cohen. Your line is open.
spk12: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Congrats on the progress. Shockingly, I have another question regarding the launch. Just regarding the dropouts for enrolled patients that you mentioned, can you – discuss what the attrition rate for enrolled patients has looked like so far based upon the dropouts or manufacturing success, and then, you know, how that attrition rate might differ for patients that are in screening as we think about the 60 patients you mentioned.
spk13: Yeah, right now, Tyler, it's in line with our expectations. There's been a few dropouts as well as manufacturing out-of-specs Not many, and based on our experience, we feel like it's playing out the way we had expected. We're only going to get better at this. The patients that are dropping out sometimes were the ones waiting for antagony therapy, and obviously that will be less of an issue as we go forward with the launch here. So I can't give you any quantitative numbers on that right now. Obviously, it's very early for this, but it's in line with what we anticipated and were able to handle.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question coming from the lineup, Yanan Su with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.
spk02: Great. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. Just wondering, for dropouts, Fred, could you comment on whether we could look at maybe perhaps clinical trials experience and historically to get a sense of what might be the percentage of patients who couldn't wait for the duration of the manufacturing and perhaps also insurance approval in this case period and then wondering about how evenly are the more than 100 enrolled patients are distributed across the 40 plus centers and lastly I think I heard a comment Jim made about month-over-month growth are still expected going forward in the number of enrolled patients. Just want to make sure I get that right. And could that, if that's correct, could the increased, other than driven by obviously increased ATCs, could that still be driven in part by increased number of patients from the already enrolled started ATCs. Thanks.
spk13: Yeah, Jan. The comparison between the dropout rate in the clinical trial and commercial is a little bit different. In the clinical trial, we don't have the financial clearance issues. We don't have any of that kind of thing, and the patients, are basically being raced through to the therapy. As you know, we had a very advanced patient population in the trial late line, and they were not being bridged and nothing was being done. We couldn't do that because of the trial. So it's a very different experience than treating a patient now where we do have the financial clearance. It takes a little bit of time to resolve, but we've been making progress on that. Obviously, it's going quite well right now for us. But also, we're bridging them. In many cases, we're bridging those patients, and those patients are not necessarily as far along in their treatment journey as they were in the clinical trial. So I don't think you can compare dropout between the two. I don't think it's a very good comparison at all. Your second question was how many patients can't wait for treatment. I don't really have a good estimate for you right now on that. That's something we'll have to see. But as the launch goes, I think we'll have some indication of... of what number of patients really couldn't wait, because we'll see the dropout rate and we'll understand that. And finally, regarding month-over-month growth, like Jim mentioned, it could be driven just by the number of patients. So we have centers right now that are enrolling at high capacity, and many of the analysts are out there calling those centers and getting information from them, and you know all about that. And they're saying things like, right now we're enrolling X a month, and Six months from now, we'll be rolling X plus five a month or X plus three a month or whatever it is. So we expect that to be the case across many of our centers. Even without the addition of ATCs, we expect the number of patients to go up.
spk02: Those are great comments. Could you, sorry, touch on the second point about how evenly are the currently enrolled patients distributed across the centers? Yes.
spk06: Oh, we missed that one. Jim, you want to get that one? Sure, I can take that. Hi, Yana. It's Jim here. Like other cell therapy launches, in fact, oncology launches, most launches don't have even distribution of adoption across the centers. And what we will expect over time is all centers will gain experience and increase utilization within each of the centers, but it is not normally distributed for any of the other launches out there.
spk02: Very helpful. Thank you.
spk06: Thanks.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question, coming from the lineup, Colleen Coussey with Baird-Yelena-Selfin.
spk15: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you comment on if there's any anecdotal feedback on the experience with IL-2 so far and how often that would come up as a potential reason not to pursue treatment with MTAGV. And then can you also comment on the profile of the average patient in process right now? I think you mentioned, you know, there have been patient deaths in this waiting period. Are you getting a lot later line patients or are you getting some earlier line patients too? Thanks.
spk04: Hi, this is Brian Gasp, and I'm happy to answer that. We have not seen really any pushback for use of IL-2. In fact, some of the self-therapists who are getting involved in this beyond the medical oncologists who start with the patient's I've actually commented how IL-2 is not a rate-limiting issue for them, and even mentioned to me personally how it's self-limiting, reversible toxicities. That is absolutely not been an issue. And I would add that one thing that we've noted was our education to the authorized treatment centers has paid off. The patient selection overall has been pretty good, if I have to say it for myself, not knowing what we would have expected. The actual drop-off because of progression is rather low. When it happens, it's rare enough that it raises an eyebrow, but it's not a very common event at all. It's just something that happened at least once. But it's definitely no more, maybe even less than what we were expecting.
spk15: Great. Thank you. And one follow-up, if I can. You said about 60 patients are in screening right now. What would be kind of common reasons that a patient would fail that screen to not pursue treatment?
spk13: Well, they have to go through the financial clearance. They may not be eligible. They may not be on label effectively. They may not have melanoma in some cases. There can be all sorts of things that, you know, can disqualify a patient in a family or a normal medical screening of patients for, you know, prescriptions.
spk06: Yeah, just like the enrolled patients that we currently have, we expect a high conversion because these treating physicians understand the unmet need and are choosing, in as much as possible, the right patients, balancing the unmet need.
spk15: Great. Thanks for taking our questions. Congrats on the progress.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question, coming from Delaina, .
spk05: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions and for my congrats on the quarter here and the update. I know this question, variations of this have been asked, but let me try it this way. Can you, of the 100 patients who have been enrolled, can you tell us how many have been resected so far?
spk13: Not yet, Asika, but there is a very large number that have been resected, I can tell you that.
spk05: Got it. Okay. And then, Fred, when talking about getting financial clearance, can you give us some sort of an idea from enrollment, how many days does it take on average to get financial clearance? I understand it's very early in the launch, but so far, what are you seeing?
spk06: It is very early in the launch, and it's very consistent with what we've seen with other cell therapy launches. Prior authorizations take about three days, and single case agreements vary. It ranges anywhere between two to six weeks with an average of three to four.
spk05: Got it. Okay. And then lastly, about how many on average vials of IL-2 do you anticipate being used per patient? I know it could be up to 18, but what do you think so far in the patients that have been dosed?
spk13: I don't have anything new to add there except that I can say in the trial it was six, the average was, or the median vial, I think whatever it was, was 16. and I would expect something similar in real practice, but I don't think I would want to quote a stat to you right now. It's close to 18 now per patient, and that's the way it should be.
spk05: Got it. Great. Thanks, guys. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question, coming from the lineup, Joe Cantanzaro with 5% Learning. You can let us open.
spk07: Hey, guys. Appreciate you taking my questions here. Maybe similarly, some sort of Same question in a different vein as we think about the cadence and rate of the 100 patients ultimately being fused. At the end of February, you said there were about 20 patients in progress. We're now about two months past that, I guess. So can you say or give any sort of additional comments on how many of those 20 patients were ultimately infused? And then my second question is on the early sort of experience or feedback you're seeing on the use of bridging therapy or physicians using that and then stopping once they receive ontography and it's ready to go? Are they sort of receiving the cell shipment and sort of continuing bridging therapy for a prolonged period of time if the patient is benefiting and tolerating that? Thanks.
spk13: Yeah, Joe, I can take the first part and then I'll have Brian answer the second part. Of the 20 patients back then, that number obviously has become more than 160 today. And I can't tell you exactly how many I really don't know, but I would think the vast majority of them moved through to at least be in the treatment process. I'm not sure if they've all been infused. We don't have that information just yet. But importantly, what we reported is 10 and 20 on February 28th is now more than 100 and more than 160. So you can see the upswing there. It's pretty significant. Brian, can you talk a little bit about the bridging?
spk04: Yeah, I think it's important to note that we don't have clear line of sight on every patient. The way they get entered into our system, there's a certain level of assumption that the physician has a background in treating the patient. Where we get the information is when a peer-to-peer or a response patient. Are you speaking?
spk18: No.
spk04: And when that happens, we really get good engagement with the sites, the physicians treating the patients. We offer them, obviously, scientific exchange when needed. And that's where we found out about maybe bridging patients. Interestingly, sometimes the bridging therapy is literally done not because the patient is progressing or can't make it to the therapy, but sometimes the patients themselves want to sort of dictate when the therapy is being given. So bridging therapy really affords a lot of latitude for these physicians, but how often it's actually being used, we probably won't know until some real-world evidence comes out.
spk07: Okay, great. That's all really helpful. Thanks for taking my question.
spk16: Thank you. And our next question, coming from the lineup, Rennie Benjamin with JMP Securities. Your line is open.
spk08: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on the progress. I'm kind of curious about whether there's the potential for a backlog at the manufacturing site and how you might handle that. You know, with the number of patients and the surgeries that are happening, how do samples kind of wait, I guess, you know, before they're getting processed? How many samples can you handle in a month? That would be my first question. And then second, just switching gears to the Type D meeting you had, for non-small cell lung cancer. It looks like you got positive, you know, feedback on a proposed potency matrix. And I thought we were kind of all done with, you know, discussions regarding potency matrix. So, I'd love to get some ideas to what's happening there.
spk13: Are you able to comment on the manufacturing question?
spk17: I can comment on that. Thanks for the question. So right now, as I mentioned, we have sufficient capacity at our manufacturing facility and contract manufacturer for launch. So the capacity is sufficient to meet demand from the commercial market. on type of patients as well as the clinical trial. And we actually continue hiring additional staff because we anticipate demand to be growing into the remainder of 24 and beyond. So I think I hope that answers your question. The capacity is right now certainly adequate for the demand we're seeing.
spk13: And then on the type D question, is Roger available? Roger, can you take that question? We may have a breakdown here already in the audio. I'll take it to you. We have to have regulatory meetings with the FDA for each indication for potency assays right now. Now, ultimately, we may be able to take a platform approach. I'm sure you've seen Peter Marks talking lately about platforms and this kind of thing, but as of today, what we're doing is we're going to the FDA with each of our indications and talking to them about the specifics of the potency assay for that indication, and that's what we successfully did recently for not so long, which is a very important step in getting towards of the LA submission for non-small cell lung cancer with Leif Lussel.
spk08: And as we think about, you know, timing, Fred, like, can we at least assume that since you, you know, it took pretty, a decent amount of time to get that discussion complete and for everyone to be on the same page. We say that that's kind of 80, 90% there already with non-small cell lung cancer, and so things should go by a lot quicker, or are we kind of back to the drawing board with each indication?
spk13: No, we're definitely not back to the drawing board. What we're doing now is we're doing it what we think is the right way. We're getting in front of the FDA at the right point in our clinical development program for non-small cell lung. You can see we're still enrolling for that study. We've got enough data now from enough patients that we can actually show them what we think is a viable potency matrix proposal with data from the actual pivotal patients, which is very important. while we're early enough in the study to be able to make adjustments should they have questions or have things that they want to change, as opposed to what we did the last time with melanoma was effectively do that all after the fact, or largely after the fact, after the study was already complete. So what we're doing now, we think, is the right way to develop polycylone T cell therapies, and this should actually accelerate and speed up our process so that when we finish non-small cell lung, we go straight to a pre-BLA meeting and straight to a submission.
spk08: Great. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk16: Thank you. And our last questioner, coming from the lineup, Ben Burnett with Stiefel. You'll let us open.
spk09: Hey, thank you so much. I was wondering if you could maybe just talk about the patient flow within the hospital. Are you seeing any bottlenecks popping up? Like, for example, have there been any learnings that have needed to happen to sort of efficiently coordinate with the surgeon or anything like that?
spk04: Yeah, actually, I would say the opposite. We've really seen a tremendous enthusiasm from the surgeon all the way through to the cell therapist and the nurses that treat these patients. We've seen hospitals bend over backwards to find operating room time, space in the hospital. We really haven't experienced any of the potential bottlenecking, even as we increase the Most of the things that we encounter are really just sort of small questions on details, but not the big issues like having, you know, a time or place to treat a patient.
spk09: Okay, that's excellent. And if you could also just comment on just the quality of tumor sample coming in for manufacturing. How is like kind of the specifications around those tumor samples compared to like what you saw in clinical trials?
spk13: I can take that for Igor if you would like to.
spk17: I'm happy to. Good question. So, so far, the experience has been very consistent with our clinical experience, including the quality and the size and the quality of the tumor samples for manufacturing.
spk09: Okay. Got it. Thank you.
spk16: Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, that's all the time we have for our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Dr. Frigbo for any closing remarks.
spk13: Thank you again for joining the IVANS Biotherapeutics first quarter of 2024 financial results and corporate updates conference call. As we shared on this call, we are very pleased with the strength of the MPEG-B launch and excited to see accelerated growth throughout the rest of 2024. Thank you to those in the patient, healthcare, and advocacy communities, our partners, and our exceptional IVANS team. I would also like to thank our shareholders and covering analysts for their support. We look forward to presenting data at ASCO and LifeLusso and Frontline Melanoma, and we'll host an analyst and investor event on May 31st. Please feel free to reach out to our investor relations team for follow-up. Thank you.
spk16: Ladies and gentlemen, that's our conference call for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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