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spk01: year 2022 earnings conference call. All parties will be on a listen only until the question and answer portion of the presentation. Today's call is being recorded at the request of Kelly Services. If anyone has any objections, you may disconnect at this time. A fourth quarter webcast presentation is also available on Kelly's website this morning. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Your host, Mr. Peter Quigley, President and CEO. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thank you, Keeley. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Kelly's fourth quarter conference call. With me today is Olivier Tiro, our Chief Financial Officer, who will walk you through our Safe Harbor language, which can be found in our presentation materials.
spk02: Thank you, Peter, and good morning, everyone. Let me remind you that any comments made during this call, including the Q&A, may include forward-looking statements about our expectations for future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those suggested by our comments, and we have no obligation to update the statements made on this call. Please refer to our SEC filings for a description of the risk factor that could influence the company's actual future performance. In addition, during the call, certain data will be discussed on a reported and on an adjusted basis. Discussion of items on an adjusted basis are non-GAAP financial measures designed to give insight into certain trends in our operations. References to organic growth in our discussion today exclude the results of our 2022 acquisitions, Rocket Power and PTS, as well as the impact of the sale of our Russian operations. We have also provided the slide deck that we are using on today's call on our website. And now back to you, Peter.
spk03: Thanks, Olivier. I'll start by sharing my perspective on the current economic and labor market dynamics to provide some context for Kelly's full year and fourth quarter results. The mixed pattern of deceleration we saw in the third quarter persisted through the balance of the year amid heightened economic uncertainty. In the high-tech sector, layoffs continued as more firms moved to bring costs in line with slowing growth following a long period of expansion and aggressive hiring. Workforce reductions spread to the financial services sector amid market volatility and decreased consumer spending driven by rising interest rates. Manufacturers also cut jobs as economic activity in this sector began to contract after 29 consecutive months of growth. In other sectors not broadly impacted by layoffs, a growing number of employers scaled back or slowed hiring in anticipation of greater headwinds in 2023. Notwithstanding these dynamics, the labor market remains tight. The economy continued to add jobs in the fourth quarter, albeit at a slightly slower pace to end the year. Services industries, healthcare and retail accounted for the bulk of the gains as employers in these sectors continue to recover from the pandemic. Unemployment remains at historically low levels. Vacancies are steady and the labor force participation rate is relatively unchanged despite elevated wage growth. The net result, job openings continue to be difficult to fill in most sectors. Even as economic headwinds emerged in the second half of the year, Kelly remained laser-focused on executing our specialty strategy, achieving solid growth in 2022. We increased revenue year over year, driven by top-line gains in our SET, education, and OCG businesses, and rapid growth in our outcome-based solutions. Every business unit expanded its gross profit margins. lifting Kelly's gross profit margin above 20% for the first time in more than 25 years, a significant milestone in our pursuit of higher margin, higher value business. And we improved adjusted earnings from operations by 30% year over year, demonstrating our ability to effectively translate gross margin expansion to earnings growth. Together, these achievements signal that our specialty strategy is paying off. 2022 also marked a year of bold action as we accelerated our strategic transformation, streamlined our portfolio, and created additional value for all our stakeholders. We ended the cross-ownership arrangement between Kelly and Persol and reduced our ownership interest in our Persol-Kelly joint venture, unlocking $235 million of liquidity while repurchasing our common shares held by Persol for $27 million in the process. We redeployed a portion of the net proceeds from those transactions to advance our inorganic growth strategy while preserving the remaining capital to pursue additional high margin, high growth acquisitions in the future. We monetized non-core real estate holdings, unlocking more capital to invest in growth initiatives. And we acted decisively to transfer ownership of our Russian operations to a Russian company. And finally, we increased our dividend to its pre-pandemic level and authorized a $50 million repurchase of outstanding Class A common shares. These moves are indicative of a new Kelly, a Kelly that acts with urgency in pursuit of profitable growth. Yet the year wasn't without its challenges. The impact of heightened economic uncertainty I mentioned earlier became more visible in parts of Kelly's portfolio, especially in the fourth quarter. The combination of mixed deceleration and labor market tightness contributed to lower revenue in the quarter from our staffing products in P&I and SET. This contrasts with growth in our higher margin outcome-based solutions in these segments, which demonstrated greater resilience and performed well. among other areas of resilience is our education segment, which continued to grow at a fast pace across all specialties on a year-over-year basis. We remain pleased with the performance of Greenwood Asher and PTS, our recent acquisition in the pediatric therapeutic space. These higher margin businesses both achieved revenue growth this quarter on increased demand. In OCG, Ongoing headwinds in the high-tech sector continue to impact demand for the services of Rocket Power, our recent acquisition in the RPO space. This resulted in a goodwill impairment charge in the fourth quarter, about which Olivier will provide more details. Notwithstanding these challenges, we made measurable progress toward realizing more expected value from this acquisition. We're accelerating integration efforts to leverage the combined strength of Kelly's customer relationships and Rocket Power's delivery model. We're diversifying Rocket Power's customer base, winning new business outside the high-tech sector. And to help mitigate top-line declines in the near term, we're taking steps to adjust SG&A. Beyond Rocket Power, we're stepping up our focus on SG&A management across Kelly. In response to a decrease in leverage that we experienced in the fourth quarter, we took swift action to manage costs in the near term. temporarily pausing hiring and reducing travel as the macro economic situation involves evolves in 2023 we're committed to ensuring our cost base reflects our operating environment our strategic priorities and our performance. longer term we're reviewing our growth and efficiency objectives as we approach the three year anniversary of our operating model. This includes continuing our work to assign expenses as precisely as possible to each of our five business segments, providing us with the visibility necessary to convert more gross profit into earnings. For more details on Kelly's Q4 performance and our full-year results, I'll turn the call over to Olivier.
spk02: Thank you, Peter. Before I dig deeper into our Q4 results, which, as Peter mentioned, have been impacted by economic headwinds, Some comments on our full-year performance first. Full-year revenue was up 1.1% on a reported basis and 3.2% on a constant currency basis. This reflects excellent revenue growth in our education business unit as it captured additional growth opportunities and effectively managed talent supply challenges. CET, OCG, and International, excluding Russia, also delivered solid constant currency revenue growth. Consistent with actions taken in alignment with our specialty strategy, GP rate improved 170 basis points on a year-over-year basis. The higher GP rate combined with increasing revenue resulted in a 12.1% increase in gross margin dollar in concerned currency, and our GP rate improved in all BUs. Finally, excluding the impairment charges, were able to convert the higher gross profit dollars to improve earnings. As Peter mentioned, adjusted earnings from operations were up 30%, and adjusted APDA margin was 2.1%, up 40 base points from a year ago. Now looking at the fourth quarter of 2022 in more details, revenue total 1.2 billion, down 1.3% from the prior year, including 200 basis points of unfavorable currency impact. Revenues were up 0.7% on a constant currency basis. Included in that increase are a 150 basis points favorable impact from our acquisitions of rocket power and PTS, as well as a 270 basis points unfavorable impact resulting from the sale of our Russian operations. So our revenue was up 1.9% on an organic concerned currency basis. As we look at revenue in the first quarter by segments, in the set segment, revenue was up 1.7%. Demand has continued to be strong for our telecommunications specialty and many of our outcome-based solutions. Growth in other specialties was negatively impacted in the quarter by the current economic headwinds. In our education segment, year-over-year revenue growth continues to be strong, up 53% as reported and 43% on an organic basis or excluding the impact of our May acquisition of PTS. Our revenue growth in the education business reflects robust demand from existing customers and new wins in 2022. This level of growth is consistent with Q1 to Q3 trends and demonstrates the resiliency of the education business, even as the broader economic trend softens. Placement fees, primary higher education executive search with Greenwood Asher, were up 67%. Our OCG segment delivered another quarter of year-over-year revenue growth, with revenue up 3.5%, over last year. OCG results include the impact of our March acquisition of Rocket Power. Organic, constant currency revenues were flat. Declines in PPO offset the continued growth in our high-margin MSP and RPO products. I will provide more context on the situation with Rocket Power later in my comments. Revenue in our professional and industrial segment declined 11.8% in the quarter. Revenue from our staffing product declined 17% in the quarter, a deceleration from Q3, as economic headwinds had historically more impact on this segment early in the cycle. The segment's outcome-based business delivered solid revenue growth of 9%, and even with continued contraction in the year-over-year demand from our call center specialty, growth in other outcome-based specialties was strong. Revenue in our international segment declined 16% on a reported basis and was down 8% on a constant currency basis. Excluding the impact of the sale of our Russian operations, revenue improved by 5% on an organic constant currency basis. Permanent placement fees were also resilient and were up 32% on an organic basis. Overall gross profit was up 1.7% as reported or up 3.7% on a constant currency basis. Our gross profit rate was 20.3% compared to 19.7% in the fourth quarter of the prior year for a year-over-year improvement of 60 basis points. The primary driver continued to be favorable organic business mix, which contributed approximately 100 basis points for the quarter. Our 2022 acquisitions also positively impacted our total GP rate by about 20 basis points, as both PTS and Rocket Power generate higher margins than Kelly's average. These improvements were partially offset by higher employee-related costs and also lower burn fees. Our SETs, OCG, and international businesses deliver the most significant year-over-year improvement in business mix and improve year-over-year GDP rates. SG&E expenses were up 2.4% year-over-year on a reported basis and up 4% on a constant currency basis. Included in our 2021 results are approximately 4 million in restructuring charges. And our 2022 results are impacted by the intangible amortization and other expenses of our recent acquisitions, as well as the favorable impact of the sale of our Russian operations. So on an organic constant currency basis, Foursquare 2022 expenses grew by 4.3% year-over-year. This is a reduction in the SG&E growth trends from earlier this year, and it does reflect a continued focus on cost management. We'll continue to take steps to ensure that we are prepared for uncertain economic conditions while continuing to fund investment in technology improvements that will position us for long-term success. During the fourth quarter, we did report an additional $10.3 million goodwill impairment charge related to Rocket Power. As we have discussed previously, Rocket Power provides RPO services primarily to customers in the high-tech vertical. Beginning earlier this year and accelerating in Q4, there has been a reduction in hiring activity in this industry vertical, which we now believe will be deeper and will last through March of 2023. The impairment charge is a non-cash item and does not impact our plans for rocket power, including, as Peter mentioned, a focus on customer diversification and opportunities for synergies, which will allow us to maximize the value of our investment in the future. Our reported earnings from operations in the fourth quarter were $4.6 million compared to $15.3 million in Q4 of 2021. Included in Q4 of 2022 is a goodwill impairment charge, and in Q4 2021 is approximately $4 million of restructuring charges. So on an adjusted basis, Q4 2022 earnings from operations of $14 million declined 28% year-over-year. As Peter mentioned, we monetized our investment in Persol Holdings and most of the Persol Kelly APAC joint venture in the first quarter of 2022. So there will be no further P&L impact from those investments, but the comparable period a year will include gains and losses related to those investments until we anniversary the transactions. In the fourth quarter of 2021, we recognized a $50 million pre-tax gain on our personal holdings common stock. Also reported below earnings from operations, in the fourth quarter of 2021, we realized a $19 million one-time gain related to cash proceeds received from a settlement of a claim on the representation and warranties insurance policy, purchased in connection with the acquisition of softwares. Income tax expense for the fourth quarter was $5.2 million compared with our 2021 income tax expense of $16.1 million. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was more than 100% and was impacted by non-deductible losses on the cash surrender value of company-owned life insurance. And finally, reported loss per share for the fourth quarter of 2022 was $0.02 per share, compared to earnings per share of $1.80 in 2021. Loss per share in 2022 included the impact of a goodwill impairment charge, net of tax, partially offset by a gain on sale of real estate property, net of tax. Earnings per share in 2021 were favorably impacted by gains on personal shares and a gain on insurance settlement, and partially offset by a restructuring charge or net of tax. So all in, on an adjusted basis, Q4 2022 EPS was $0.18 compared to $0.65 per share in Q4 of 2021. Now moving to the balance sheet as of year end. Cash total $154 million compared to $113 million a year ago. Debt was nearly zero, consistent with year end 2021. And when combining our strong balance sheet with our existing borrowing capacity, we still have and continue to have ample capital available to fund our organic and inorganic strategy, as well as navigating an uncertain microeconomic environment. At year-end, accounts receivable was 1.5 billion and increased 5% year-over-year, reflecting our year-over-year increase in revenue as well as billings to MSP customers reported on a net basis. Global DSO was 61 days, an increase of one day over year-end of 2021. For the year, we used $88 million of free cash flow. Free cash flows in 2022 include the final repayment of approximately $87 million of federal payroll tax balances, which we deferred in 2020 under the CARE Act, as well as 48 million of income taxes due in Japan following the sales of our investment in personal common stock. And during the fourth quarter, we have started executing against the 50 million share repurchase plan that we announced in November, buying approximately 475,000 shares for a value of 7.8 million. As Peter mentioned, the global economy has grown increasingly uncertain. As a result, we are not going to provide a formal outlook for 2023 at this stage. However, I will share the following observations. Through the execution of our specialty strategy, Kelly has continued to transform since the last significant economic disruption caused by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020. We have remixed our portfolio towards higher margin products and specialties, and we have demonstrated the ability to act with urgency to proactively manage costs to protect the bottom line and preserve capital when necessary. Our current view for the first half of 2023 reflects that the economic uncertainty will constrain top-line growth in several of our business units. We expect that our structural GDP rate improvement will continue, but likely at a slower pace than in 2022, And finally, that will contain our SG&A to levels similar to Q4 of 2022, even while continuing to invest in our technology initiatives and in our people. If top-line trends don't align with our current expectations, we are prepared to take additional actions to align our cost structure as we move forward. And with now all that, back to you, Peter.
spk03: Thanks for those insights, Olivier. It's difficult to know how the macroeconomic situation will unfold as we move forward in 2023. What is certain is that we'll focus on what we can control and stay the course in our aggressive pursuit of profitable growth. In each of our chosen specialties, we'll continue to shift toward a business mix characterized not only by higher margins and value, but greater resiliency amid market pressures. will drive inorganic growth using the ample capital available to us on our balance sheet to pursue additional high quality acquisitions in education, SET, and OCG. And we'll continue to invest in technology and new products that will improve the talent and customer experience, enable organic growth, and increase efficiency. I have great confidence in our team's ability to meet the moment and deliver on these priorities. This has been a defining characteristic of Kelly People since our founding more than 75 years ago and has contributed in no small way to the longevity of our company. With our team laser focused on executing our specialty strategy and guided by our noble purpose, I look forward to building on the positive momentum we generated in 2022. Together, we'll create long-term value for all our stakeholders helping our talent and customers thrive, and rewarding our shareholders for their patience since we embarked on this transformation. We're grateful to all of them and to our board of directors for their unwavering support as we move forward on our journey to unleash the full potential of this great company. Keely, you can now open the call to questions.
spk01: Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press 1 and then 0 on your touchtone phone. You will hear an acknowledgement that you've been placed into queue and you can remove yourself from queue at any time by repeating the one zero command. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the numbers. Once again, for questions, please press one and then zero at this time. We'll go to the line of Joe Gomez with Noble Capital.
spk04: Good morning, Peter and Olivier. Thanks for taking the question.
spk03: Yeah, good morning, Joe. Good morning.
spk04: So just kind of wanted to start off here, you know, on the P&I business, if we look at that, it looked like revenues kind of accelerated on a negative end in the quarter. It was higher in the fourth quarter, the revenue declined in the other quarters of the year. Maybe you could just give us a little more color as to what is going on in the P&I segment.
spk03: Yeah, Joe, I think it's a reflection of what's going on in the parts of the economy that we have exposure to. The P&I business has considerable exposure to manufacturing, light industrial distribution, and those businesses in particular were impacted by the headwinds that we saw to some extent in Q3, but really accelerating in Q4. And that's the story behind P&I. Also mentioned that we still have yet to anniversary the loss of the major customer we had that will anniversary in April of 2023.
spk02: On the flip side, I would say, and we did mention it, I did mention it, our BPO business is still growing. despite of the fact that our call center business is still a little bit kind of challenging comparables. But overall, we grew this business by about 9% in Q4, which I think is an improvement versus what we have seen even in Q3, where it was about 3.5%. So that, I wouldn't say that it's offsetting staffing, but it is, you know, something we... assumed to be resilient for the near future.
spk04: Okay, thank you for that. Switching over to Europe, you call out a number of different countries there and break that out in your tables. I'm looking at it. Obviously, we know what happened in Russia with the sale, but all the other countries that you identify outside of Portugal were down on a revenue basis. Maybe you could talk a little bit as to what you're seeing in some of those countries that would show the sequential decline or the quarterly decline in revenue.
spk02: Yeah, I would say, of course, you need to put on the side two things, right? One is, of course, exchange rate, which is, of course, as we did mention again, impacting our P&L in international and, of course, Russia. until we anniversary basically the transaction that did happen early July of 2022. So if you put these two things on the side, we are still growing at about 5%. It's a little bit lower than what we have seen in Q3. Q3, we were shy of 7%. So we see a decline, but not, I would say, a pretty pronounced decline. We still see a lot of growth in Portugal, and you can see it on our 8K, 30% plus. We have seen that in Q1, Q2, Q3, as well as Q4 of 2022. We have seen some slowdown in Switzerland, in France, and in Italy because of market conditions, but I would say it is more challenging than before, but I wouldn't call it as a complete change in trend. We still have bright spots in Germany that is mentioned in other, and this is one of the main reasons why other is still up by 14%. In Germany, although the revenue is not big, it's a business where the margin or the growth margin is pretty interesting because of the business mix, and we continue to make huge progress over there. So we have also a couple of other countries where we continue to see very good traction, and of course we don't disclose them because they are pretty small, especially on revenue, but some of them, like including Germany, are creating very interesting traction, probably more visible in GDP and bottom line. Okay, thanks Olivier on that.
spk04: And pardon me, you had Mentioned on the last call, talking about the tech layoffs, about how that might provide a better pipeline of candidates for some of the other verticals. Maybe you could talk, are you seeing that? And what else are you needing to do? I know this is kind of an ongoing and unfolding situation to attract workers to fill positions that are open.
spk03: Yeah, the demand for the talent that are involved in a lot of the publicized layoffs in the tech sector are skills and capabilities that are in demand outside of the high-tech sector. The lag time between moving those people to other industries is measured by geography, by pressures that in all industries, customers are making hiring decisions slower, taking a little bit more time, but clearly the demand for those skill sets is evident, and we're seeing it. It's just that the macroeconomic conditions doesn't translate immediately into, you know, moving people from, you know, from Friday to Monday to a new position. It takes a little bit longer, and We expect to see the benefits of that increase in technology, talent, and skill sets throughout 2023. Okay.
spk04: And one more, if I may, on Rocket Power. Again, last call when you were talking about it, the firm, you mentioned about identifying synergies with the rest of Kelly, accelerating the integration, diversifying the portfolio. Maybe could you provide a little more detail on where you see yourself progressing on those goals for Rocket Power?
spk03: Yeah, we're very encouraged by where we are on those two issues, but also, Joe, part of the investment thesis for Rocket Power was being able to take advantage of their Latin American delivery model, and we're encouraged by the ability not only to continue to use that for rocket power customers, but also to take advantage of that for either legacy Kelly RPO customers and also use it as part of our sales efforts for new RPO customers. And we are seeing signs that that part of the investment thesis is paying off with customers we're talking to in terms of where they're looking to see a lower cost delivery and we're able to provide that through that Latin American delivery model that was part of Rocket Power. Okay, great.
spk04: Thanks for taking my questions, guys. Appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Joe. Thank you, Joe.
spk01: We'll go next to the line of Kevin Steinke of Barrington Research.
spk05: Good morning, Kevin. Good morning. Good morning, Kevin. Good morning. I wanted to first ask about the science, engineering, and technology segments. You noted some continued good demand in the telecom area, although you mentioned also that the other areas within the segment are being impacted by the economy. So can you maybe just expand on the areas being impacted by the economy, and maybe how material the slowdown has been there.
spk03: Yeah, thanks, Kevin. So as Olivier mentioned, just to call out, the BPO, or outcome-based business, continues to see nice growth, and I think it speaks to the strategy that we have of moving business to that delivery model. So that's where I would start. Telecom is enjoying very significant growth, both in terms of traditional staff aug as well as statement of work business. And we see that continuing as companies work to deploy next generation networks. The areas that are a little more challenged are probably science and engineering. Because in science, there are a lot of companies that are catching their breath after coming out of COVID and trying to reestablish what their going forward strategy is. So we've seen some slowdown in hiring and customers taking longer, and engineering has continued to see some headwinds from a macroeconomic standpoint. Technology is reflective of, I think, the high-tech sector overall, but we don't see that as a permanent. It's probably a temporary lull in terms of demand. Companies still need app developers and network architects and cybersecurity experts and data analysts, and we see when the economic conditions become more certain, we expect that to come back quite quickly.
spk05: Okay, thanks. That's helpful, Culler. You know, you were talking earlier about how some of the layoffs and the high tech sector, you could, um, use some of those people and their skills to, to build demand in other areas. I guess just more broadly has some of the softening in the labor market, uh, improved your ability to, to fill orders more generally across the company. Um, you know, I know you referenced there's still, uh, a good number of job openings and the labor market is still fairly tight. So just kind of wondering if that's maybe enabled you to fill some other orders better that maybe were sitting open due to greater labor market tightness.
spk03: Yeah, well, the demand has slowed in certain sectors. I would point out that our fill rates have improved in education. which is likely a sign of people coming off the sidelines, could be retirees that are concerned about inflation. But we've seen across the regions improvement in fill rates, which is very encouraging because the demand continues to be very strong in education. In set, our fill rates have pretty much maintained. Demand has slackened a little bit, but we continue to find talent and put them to work at our customers. And our bill rates have improved in P&I, although the demand has softened considerably, as I mentioned in response to Joe's question.
spk02: Another way to look at it is about our own wage inflation. We see, interestingly in SET, it's still elevated at around 8% to 9%, which is what we have seen for a long time now, It is moving down a little bit in P&I, which might be a sign that the supply of talent side is easing a little bit. Our wage inflation for P&I in Q4 was about 2.5% versus something like 7% in Q3. Education is slightly down, but still very elevated at about 9% versus 14% or 13% to 14% before.
spk05: Okay. Yeah, that's, that's good. Helpful. Um, color. So, um, just maybe just drilling down a little bit more into education and, uh, does the business pipeline there continue to be strong and, and, you know, specifically, what are you seeing with, uh, demand and, uh, your ability to leverage the, uh, the pediatric therapeutic services acquisition?
spk03: Yeah, very encouraged by the early signs of synergy between our traditional pre-K to 12 education business and PTS. Both ways, frankly. So PTS introducing our traditional K-12 business to the school districts they support and our K-12 school districts being introduced to PTS. So we think there's significant synergistic opportunity there. We're seeing growth in the traditional business, both in terms of existing customers as well as, or existing school districts, as well as the pipeline continues to be very strong as school districts struggle with, frankly, a chronic teacher shortage. And as they focus on their full-time hiring and curriculum, more and more school districts are likely to be outsourcing the management of their substitute teacher population. And we're going to be the beneficiary of that because we win more than our fair share when we're competing for business. We have an excellent retention rate among our existing customers and an excellent win ratio when we compete for business. I would also add that the higher ed portion of the education system is very dynamic, which leads to a lot of turnover, which means our Greenwood-Asher executive search practice is seeing very significant volume of searches for universities and community colleges and even some superintendents in our K-12 space. So we're very encouraged by that because it's not a huge business, but a very profitable business.
spk05: Great. Thank you. I just also wanted to ask about the outlook for the first half of 2023. As you noted, you expect revenue will continue to be constrained by economic uncertainty and also acknowledging that, as you mentioned, it's difficult to ascertain exactly how the macroeconomic situation will evolve. But as it currently stands, would you expect, you know, economic headwinds to pick up in the first half or – kind of stay as is, kind of what's the pipeline look like and your expectation for how severe or how much of a change you could see in terms of economic headwinds in the first half?
spk02: Yeah, probably what I'm going to do is to reflect a little bit on what we have seen so far, especially in terms of revenue. Early in 2023, as we speak, So back to what Peter was talking about education, we continue to trend very well in all practices, including PTS. It is a confirmation of what we have seen, again, for the whole of 2022. We continue to make progress in improving our field rate, and we expect, I mean, solid growth and a continuation of the solid growth. Just for you to know that Of course, we are going to deal with higher comparables because we are already growing at 40 to 50% in 2022, but very solid start of the year. When I look at OCG, not seen any significant changes in trends so far versus what we have seen Q4 2022. I believe at some stage we would expect some pressure on RPO because of the market, although we have not seen that yet. For said P&I and international, what I would say is staffing continue to slow down, especially in P&I. Fees, very, very volatile. We have one good week, one more challenging week. Difficult to know how it's going to trend in the future. I would say high volatility. Outcome base, so far what we have seen is a confirmation of resilience. whether it's in PNI or INSET.
spk05: All right. Well, thank you for that insight. I will turn it over. Thanks for taking the questions. Thanks, Kevin. Thank you.
spk01: We'll go next to the line of Kartik Mehta of North Coast Research.
spk06: Good morning, everyone. This is Jack Boyle speaking on behalf of Cardic Meta. Just a couple questions to get us started here. So you just spoke a little bit about what we can expect early. I appreciate that. Can you speak a little bit more about maybe the competitive environment, what you're seeing? I understand demand has come down, but what kind of competitive environment are you guys seeing now, and is there a certain point that you guys are competing on, whether it be price or capability?
spk03: I think the competitive landscape hasn't changed significantly in terms of the vendors and suppliers that we compete against. We've been very disciplined about maintaining our pricing and our margin, and to some extent, in some cases, trading off and not chasing revenue for purposes of I think we haven't seen a lot of, I would say, wholesale margin pressure coming from our principal competitors. You know, and regional companies will at times chase business. But as I said, we're being disciplined about it. We're focusing on finding – higher margin jobs and job categories that we know we can fill and compete and win. We're pleased with the number of customer acquisitions that we've had in the past couple of quarters. Those take a while to show up because you have to transition from other companies. But I would say on the whole, there's not a significant change in the competitive landscape.
spk06: All right. And just one more, in terms of a little more color around some of the SG&A savings strategy you discussed, the pause in hiring, is that across all of your businesses? And how long do you foresee that lasting?
spk03: Well, it's across all businesses subject to, you know, if we have a customer-facing revenue GP generating position, we're filling those roles. But we're doing it after a review to make sure that it's necessary. But all of the other, I would call them, non-customer-facing, non-revenue GP-generating roles, we've put a hiring freeze on. And we'll continue that until we see some signs of certainty in the macroeconomic conditions and don't see any deterioration in demand in our businesses. The one exception, Jack, might be education where the demand is so significant that we've got to add people because the opportunity is so significant and we're not going to miss the great work that the education team has done to acquire new school districts and generate additional revenue in GP through improving our fill rates.
spk06: Great. Thanks for the additional detail.
spk03: Thanks, Jack.
spk06: Thank you.
spk01: We'll go next to the line of Mitra Ramgopal with Sedoti.
spk07: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Hi. Just following up a little on the last question on the SG&A, in terms of how comfortable you feel you'll be able to keep SG&A at levels you'd like, especially in light of the revenue uncertainty. And how far along are you in terms of the investments and technology initiatives? And should we continue to see elevated investment?
spk03: So on the... On the SG&A question, we've done a lot of work starting in the third quarter of last year to identify certain metrics that we're following very closely that will trigger additional cost moves if necessary. And I think we're better prepared to respond to macroeconomic conditions than we should. been before. So I'm very comfortable that we have the levers that we need to pull identified and available to us should that be necessary. Technology is a very critical area of investment for us. We're investing not only in the ways to improve the productivity of our frontline teams, but we're also investing in the talent experience. We recently launched a new My Kelly portal which provides talent that we deal with every day with a better user experience and we think that's going to create some opportunities to maintain relationships with the great people that we put to work every day and use that as a differentiator in terms of selling to our customers. So the technology investments, uh, we will continue judiciously, but we need to make investments for the longterm. And, uh, that will be and continue to be a priority in terms of our, um, organic investments. Okay. That's great.
spk07: Um, and then on the inorganic, um, side, I know it's something you always keep an eye on. Given the balance sheet you have, you can certainly be aggressive there. But in light of the economic uncertainty you spoke to, if maybe you can give us some call in terms of how you're thinking about inorganic opportunities, if you feel confident you'll be able to get something done maybe this year in pipeline and valuations you're seeing.
spk03: Well, candidly, Mitra, the the quality and the quantity of properties in the market right now is less than it was a year ago. And that's, I think, just a reflection of not only the macroeconomic conditions, but also the interest rate environment. And that's likely to continue for the first quarter and probably into the first half. My expectation is that when... the interest rate environment becomes a little bit clearer in terms of, uh, the ceiling and companies have line of sight to more certainty in the economy. We're going to see a lot of companies that were on the sidelines, uh, uh, being part of conversations. And, uh, we're not waiting for that. We're actively, uh, proactively, um, pursuing and identifying high quality, high margin, high growth assets that we would like to add to the portfolio. But it's a fairly constrained environment right now. But we will be ready. And as I said, we're not sitting on our heels during this period of time. We're continuing to to proactively look for those kinds of properties.
spk02: And with our level of liquidity, which is now over $450 million, I mean, we can really go fast and aggressive, especially in the second half of the year, not necessarily waiting for a much better economic environment because, again, I mean, with our balance sheet, we can do it at an early stage of any potential recovery versus the current environment. Okay, no, that's great.
spk07: Thanks again for taking the questions.
spk03: Thanks, Mitra. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. We have a follow-up from the line of Kevin Stanky with Barrington Research.
spk05: Hi, just a really quick follow-up in terms of what we should expect for an effective tax rate as we move into 2023.
spk02: Yeah, that's a difficult question. I would say I'm still on the, you know, meetings plus. That would be where I would position it. Although you might have seen that there is a lot of volatility because of several items. I think today when I was talking about tax, it was a good example of that. But, you know, high meetings would be probably the way I would position it for the moment.
spk05: Okay, that's fair. Thank you very much.
spk03: Thank you. Thanks, Kevin.
spk01: Once again, for questions from the phones, it's one and then zero. And speakers allowing a few moments, there are no further questions in queue.
spk03: Okay, Keely, I think we can wrap it up then. Thank you very much for your help. Thank you.
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