8/7/2025

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Good afternoon everyone and welcome to the Carat Packaging Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then 1 on your touchtone telephones. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and 2. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Roger Pondell. Sir, please go ahead.

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Roger Pondell
Investor Relations, Pondell Wilkinson

Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Carat Packaging's 2025 Second Quarter Conference Call. I'm Roger Pondell with Pondell Wilkinson, Carat Packaging's Investor Relations Firm. It will be my pleasure momentarily to introduce the company's Chief Executive Officer, Alan Yu, and its Chief Financial Officer, Jan Gow. Before I turn the call over to Alan, I want to remind our listeners that today's call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are subject to numerous conditions, many of which are on the company's control, including those set forth in the risk factor section of Carat's most recent Form 10-K as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, copies of which are available on the SEC's website at .sec.gov, along with other company filings made with the SEC from time to time. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. In-carat packaging undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. Please also note that during today's call, we will be discussing adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted diluted earnings per share, and free cash flow, which are non-GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G, a reconciliation of the most recently comparable GAAP measures to the non-GAAP financial measures is included in today's press release, which is now posted on the company's website. And with that, I will turn the call over to CEO Alan New. Alan?

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Roger. Good afternoon, everyone. We achieved a record second quarter performance marked by a 13% increase in sales volume, 10% growth in net sales, and 20% growth in net income year over year. Despite a significant foreign currency hit win due to sudden substantial weakening in the US dollar against new Taiwan dollar. Heading into the third quarter, we continue to diversify our global sourcing and expanding to new countries and geographies, and we see the currency pressure starting to ease. A record quarter performance is a testimony to CARES' nimble business model and resilient global supply chain, which allows us to early success in navigating the supply chain disruption and trade uncertainties. We are swiftly diversifying our sourcing footprint, reducing reliance on China to just 10% in the second quarter, while implementing plans to further expand our sourcing across other Asian countries and Latin America to enhance supply chain resilience and flexibilities. In addition to the sourcing diversification, CARES' ability to quickly ramp up existing domestic manufacturing operations enable us to respond rapidly to customers' needs. Together, these actions have further enhanced our agilities and competitiveness, and are helping us to secure new business and position the company well for sustained growth in a challenging external environment. Business trend remains strong. As we proceed into the third quarters and the remainder of 2025 and continue double-digit sales growth across our major markets, including California, further, reason new business wins from a number of large national chains are scheduled to begin shipping in the third and fourth quarters. Our new distribution center near our Chino headquarters is now fully operational, significantly strengthening our logistic capabilities and enabling even faster delivery time. This facility also supported inventory buildup during the second quarter, positioning us well to accommodate our anticipated growth in the second half of the year. As previously announced, we implemented price increases for select products on April 1, followed by broader price adjustment across most of our product lines in late May. We continue to assess the impact of these changes, along with potential effects from the new tariffs effected in August. CARES remains focused on accelerating top-line growth and profitability through product innovation, strategic expansion, and a track record of being a dependable supplier to our customers. At the same time, we continue to drive operational efficiency through disciplined cost management. In the second quarter, we improved our operating cost leverage, saving $1 million in online shipping and marketing, by switching providers even as shipping volume increased. We also shifted our online sales focus from third-party platform fulfillment to our own e-commerce storefront, lowering online selling costs and more effectively utilizing online marketing dollars. These efforts reflect our ongoing focus on balancing growth with profitability and building long-term operational resilience. We believe CARES is well positioned for continued profitable growth, and I will now turn the call over to Jan Glow, our Chief Financial Officer, to discuss the company's financial results in greater detail. Jan?

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Jan Gow
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Alan. I'll begin with a summary of our Q2 performance, followed by an update on our guidance. Net sales for the 2025 second quarter were $124 million, up .1% from $112.6 million in the prior year quarter. The increase was primarily driven by -over-year volume growth of 13%, partially offset by $3.3 million in unfavorable pricing as chains and distributors' growth outpaced online and retail channels. Sales to chain accounts and distributors were up by 11.4%. Online sales increased .8% over the prior year quarter, reflecting our continued focus on expanding this high margin category. Sales to the retail channel turned positive with an increase of 1.9%. Cost of goods sold for the 2025 second quarter was $74.9 million, compared with $69.2 million in the 2024 second quarter. The increase primarily reflected $4.0 million of higher product costs resulting from increased sales volume. This was partially offset by more favorable vendor pricing and product mix. Additionally, ocean freight and duty costs rose by $2.1 million due to higher import duty costs impacted by the recent tariffs coupled with an increase in import volume of .0% as we increased inventory ahead of expected business expansion during the second half of 2025. At the same time, average ocean container rates during the 2025 second quarter decreased .0% -over-year. Growth profit for the 2025 second quarter increased .1% to $49.1 million from $43.4 million in the prior year quarter. Growth margin increased 110 basis point to .6% compared with .5% in the prior year quarter. Growth margin benefited from lower product costs as a percentage of net sales mainly due to more favorable vendor pricing and product mix and reduction in depreciation expense as a percentage of net sales. These improvements were partially offset by higher ocean freight and duty costs as a percentage of net sales increased to .5% during the 2025 second quarter versus .6% during the 2024 second quarter. Off-breeding expenses for the 2025 second quarter were $32.6 million compared with $32.3 million in the prior year quarter. The increase was mainly due to higher shipping and transportation costs for offline orders from increased shipping volume, increased rent, and higher salaries and benefits. These increases were partially offset by a decrease in shipping costs for online orders despite the increase in online orders shipped. Online platform fees, lower marketing expense, stock-based compensation, and a gain recognized from disposal of machinery and equipment. Operating income in the 2025 second quarter increased .9% to $16.6 million from $11.1 million in the prior year quarter. Total other expense net was $2.0 million for the 2025 second quarter compared with other income net of $1.0 million in the prior year quarter. The difference was primarily due to a loss on foreign currency transactions of $2.9 million compared with a gain of $0.3 million during the 2024 second quarter. Net income for the 2025 second quarter increased .8% to $11.1 million from $9.2 million for the prior year quarter. Net income margin was .9% in the 2025 second quarter compared with .2% a year ago. Net income attributable to tarot for the 2025 second quarter was $10.9 million or $0.54 per diluted share compared with $9.1 million or $0.45 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the 2025 second quarter was $17.7 million compared with $15.7 million for the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was .3% of net sales for the 2025 second quarter compared with .9% for the prior year quarter. Adjusted diluted earnings per common share was $0.57 for the 2025 second quarter compared with $0.49 for the same quarter last year. We generated operating cash flow of $9.8 million in the second quarter and ended the quarter with $116.8 million in working capital. Our free cash flow was $9.6 million in the second quarter. As of June 30, 2025, we had financial liquidity of $44.7 million with another $26.4 million in short-term investments. On August 5, 2025, our Board of Directors approved a quarterly dividend of $0.45 per share, payable August 27, 2025, to stockholders of record as of August 20, 2025. Looking ahead, we expect net sales for the 2025 third quarter to increase by approximately 9 to 10% over the prior year quarter. We expect our gross margin for the 2025 third quarter to be in the low to mid 30s and adjusted dividend margin to be within 10 to 12% as our cost of goods sold have begun to reflect inventory brought in with the elevated tariffs. Currently, we are maintaining our full year 2025 guidance for net sales, gross margin, and adjusted dividend margin pending potential impact related to additional tariff changes. Allen and I now will be happy to answer your questions and I'll turn the call back to the operator.

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Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we'll begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star and 1 using a touchtone telephone. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and 2. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up the handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. Once again, that is star and then 1 to join the question queue. We'll

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pause momentarily to assemble the roster. Our first question today comes from Michael Francis from

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William Blair. Please go ahead with your question.

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

Hi guys, I'm Mike, onto Ryan. Nice quarter. I wanted to unpack some stuff in the guide, but first I want to start with prices. I'm surprised to see price was negative on the quarter, especially with some of the tariff price increases. So I guess two parts. Why was price negative on the quarter and then what should we be expecting from the impact of price in the second half?

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

We are currently holding onto the pricing with some minor increases in certain categories. That's it. Because we're seeing that there's more visibility in terms of every country that we import now on the pricing. And also one of the things is that we will be starting to mitigate our costs by moving some of the product that we've sourced from certain countries, from Taiwan into other Asian and Latin America countries with lower tariff as well as our cost of good purchase has been reducing. So we have some new vendors and vendors that we work with looking to reduce our costs and that's going to help us in terms of mitigating any potential tariff increase

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

impact. Okay. So if I think about that right with your second half guide that you referred to, should I be thinking sort of a similar volume growth and price impact that we saw in this quarter and in the third quarter?

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Jen, would you be able to answer that question?

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Jan Gow
Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So to answer your question, Michael, going forward, second half of the year, would you think that we could break even compared to about a negative three in this quarter?

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Understood. And then with that, I noticed that there's an embedded in the guide, there's a sequential decline in gross margin. So I wanted to know what the puts and takes of that is. Is it tariffs coming through the P&L, is it just lower profitability sourcing from other countries? I would just love to unpack that.

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Well, currently I would say that the positive impact of the new sourcing will be actually receiving that impact in the fourth quarter. So right now, third quarter, we are still seeing that some of the tariffs that we brought the product in the second quarter, we are seeing that with a higher tariff cost and that should be mitigated in the fourth quarter. So right now we are trying to see how much impact it will be. That's why we mentioned in the first quarter, during our first quarter earnings conference call, we mentioned that the product brought in in the second quarter will be sold in the third quarter. So second quarter will have a higher gross margin and third quarter will have a lower gross margin. Also the bigger impact was because many of the product we sourced from Taiwan had a currency FX loss in terms of devaluation into US dollars that's causing the increase in some of the cost of gasol decrease our gross margin as well.

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

So if I'm understanding you right, it should be down in the third quarter and then gross margin should recover some in the fourth quarter.

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Yes, that is my understanding.

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. And then last one for me, I just wanted to know what you're seeing on July trends and have you seen any sort of free buy from your customers ahead of the August tariffs?

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

We are seeing, especially from some of our national chain accounts, their sales in July has been very strong. And we have, due to the tariffs, we've seen several, many of our smaller importer competitors gone, reduced their inventory and our volume has increased in terms of a certain category that people were sourcing from overseas. So we're seeing strong demand in terms of July, especially in California. We're seeing more than double digit sales increase in California market. It started in June and July was basically a follow the trend. So we believe that the revenue volume double digit is something that we know that we can definitely beat it.

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Michael Francis
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. I'll pass it on. Thanks guys.

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Conference Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and then one. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Again, that is star and then one to join the question queue. And our next question comes from Josh Axel from UBS. Please go ahead with your question.

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Josh Axel
Analyst, UBS

Hi guys. Hope all is well today. Hi Josh. Question for you on the online sales. Can you give a little guidance on what you're thinking for the second half of the year as far as online sales, the kind of growth you're targeting and what you're seeing in that area? And then I have one more question for you.

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. No problem. We believe online sales will continue to grow, especially we just added a new platform called Cisco Marketplace. That seemed to be doing quite well for us and is basically fulfilled by our own logistic warehouse. We've moved away from Amazon FBA, fulfillment by third party because the cost is just too high and there's a lot of issues in terms of inventory reconciliation. And by moving away from Amazon FBA, our revenue dropped a little bit, but our margin has significantly gained a lot in terms of margin wise. And we have better controls in inventory as well. So we do see our online sales to grow continuously, just like we have been in the past month,

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Josh Axel
Analyst, UBS

years. Do you think you can get back to double digit online growth in the second half of the year or with losing Amazon, is that going to be a little more difficult?

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

I would think that in the fourth quarter because we're the Cisco marketplace, we started it just about three months ago and it has built a lot of momentum. And we're adding, we probably had about 500 SKU in the Cisco marketplace and we're looking to add another 750 SKU this month. So these definitely will turn into revenue. So we believe that in the fourth quarter, online revenue should be able to go back to double digit growth.

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Josh Axel
Analyst, UBS

Okay, great. And then last question, can you comment, Alan, on what you're seeing in the M&A landscape if you're looking at anything and if so what, or if maybe prices don't seem attractive or just where you are.

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. Yes, we are still looking at M&A and also we analyzed the previous past six months. There has been a couple of merchant acquisitions in our packaging space and it seems like the sellers were not getting as much as they were hoping for. But the price is still, I believe, it's not to where we believe it should be. And also most of our competitors who bought these acquired, the acquiree were just to gain the product line and market shares, which we can basically increase our, bring in new SKUs and that we can do it ourselves. Our goal with M&A is basically strategically, it has to be a location or client base or item that we do not currently carry. So we are still looking at that segment. And also, of course, adding new product lines, that's what we've been doing. In the past month, we've looked into partnership with other people's discussion has been going on for over several months in the past with different kind of vendors that we have to see if there's any potential that we can work together in terms, just like we had in the past with the Bogoss Manufacturing Joint Ventures. So these are the things that we're looking at. So we're not just saying that we're just at one segment, we're looking at different areas. Great,

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thank you very much guys. Thank you Josh. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be concluding today's question

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and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference call back over to Alan Yu for any closing comments.

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Alan Yu
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you everyone for joining our Care Packaging Second Quarter Earning Conference Call. And I would like to say thank you all and have a nice day. Bye bye.

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Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, with that we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We do thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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