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spk05: Welcome to Liberty Broadband 2024 Q1 Earnings Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. At that time, if you have a question, please press star 1 on your telephone. As a reminder, this conference will be recorded May 8th. I would now like to turn the call over to Claire Adams, Senior Manager, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk00: Good morning. Before we begin, we'd like to remind everyone that this call includes certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual events or results could differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those mentioned in the most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q filed by Liberty Broadband and Liberty TripAdvisor with the SEC. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this call, and Liberty Broadband and Liberty TripAdvisor expressly disclaim any obligation or undertaking to disseminate any updates or revisions to any forward-looking statement contained herein, to reflect any change in Liberty Broadband or Liberty Trip Advisors' expectations with regard thereto, or any change in events, conditions, or circumstances on which any such statement is based. On today's call, we'll discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures for Liberty Broadband, including adjusted OIDA. Information regarding the comparable GAAP metrics, along with the required definitions and reconciliations, including preliminary note and Schedules 1 and 2, can be found in the earnings press release issued today, as well as earnings releases for prior periods, which are available on Liberty Broadband's website. Now I'd like to introduce Greg Maffei, Liberty's president and CEO.
spk04: Thank you, Claire, and good morning to all. Today, speaking on the call, we will have Liberty Broadband's chief accounting and principal financial officer, Brian Wenley. Ron Duncan, CEO of GCI, and Pete Pounds, CFO of GCI, will also be available to answer questions. Also during Q&A, we will be available to answer questions related to Liberty Trip Advisor. So beginning with Liberty Broadband, similar to last year, early in the year, we remain under the 26% fully diluted ownership cap, largely due to Charter's annual compensation grants. We do expect to resume sales into Charter's buyback this summer, and we also expect that the majority of proceeds, which have historically gone to LBRD purchases will continue somewhere going in the future. We will evaluate the best use as we receive proceeds. But I do expect in the near term, we will have a greater focus on debt reduction. So you might see some of us have a reduced pace of buyback in the near term. Looking at charter itself, internet ads have been challenged across the industry with lower growth across the board in the first quarter. experienced a 72,000 subscriber net loss, largely from continued elevated competition, early headwinds from the upcoming ACP expiration, and reduced move activity given, among other things, historically high interest rates, mortgage rates. The churn does remain at historically low levels. and the company did experience solid EBITDA growth at 2.8% in the first quarter. We are comfortable management can achieve EBITDA growth throughout the year while investing in the business and despite facing industry pressures, and they'll achieve that largely due to expense management, which is working quite well. Mobile, bright spot, continues to form nicely. Charters surpassed 8 million total mobile lines. and mobile service revenue accelerated 38% versus the prior year. We're quite pleased with the Spectrum One performance, and we're seeing improving mobile EBITDA as the promotional lines continue to roll off and the business achieves economies of scale. The Anytime Upgrade program is going to expand our market opportunity, and we do see increased stickiness with customers. Internet churn is down versus the prior year. As many of you know, unfortunately, the ACP program was not renewed. In light of that, Charter is offering a range of options to retain ACP customers, including the Spectrum Internet Assist Program, the Internet 100 product, and a retention officer of free mobile for one year. Looking briefly at the balance sheet at Charter, we do expect leverage will move toward the midpoint of the 4 to 4.5 leverage target while maintaining the buyback this year. Turning briefly to L-TRIP, many of you may have seen that we filed a 13D this morning, which outlined the ceased transaction discussions with third parties. We do continue to discuss strategic alternatives with TRIP Advisors Special Committee. We will not be able to comment further on this unless definitive documents are executed or discussions terminate. Looking at TripAdvisor itself, TripAdvisor had a good start to the first quarter, but it did also offer more muted guidance on its call this morning. Travel and experiences remain high priorities for consumers despite geopolitical activity and inflationary pressures. At brand TripAdvisor, hotel meta performance was driven by sustained pricing strength, offset by lower click volumes, trips AI tool is continuing to scale very well, and the addition of bookable experiences embedded in itineraries is generating 50% higher average revenue per user. Viator itself saw record app downloads, conversion growth, and app bookings. So with that, I'll turn it over to Brian to discuss the financials.
spk03: Thank you, Greg. At quarter end, Liberty Broadband had consolidated cash and cash equivalents of $108 million, which includes $70 million of cash at GCI. The value of our charter investment based on our shares held as of May 1 and charter share price at yesterday's close was $12.3 billion. At quarter end, Liberty Broadband had a total principal amount of debt of $3.8 billion. Note this excludes the preferred stock. Looking quickly at GCI, GCI's revenue and adjusted OIBIT were flat in the first quarter. Growth in data revenue in both business and consumer sides was offset by declines in other revenue. The decline in the other revenue was primarily driven by declines in video revenue. We note, though, that the video business does not meaningfully impact margins or free cash flow. Over the last year, adjusted for the reclassification From GCI business, GCI consumers added 3,500 revenue-generated wireless subs and saw a small decline of 200 cable modem customers. GCI paid down its revolver by $60 million during the quarter using strong cash from operations. At quarter end, leverage as defined by its credit agreement was 2.8 times, and GCI's credit facility had $457 million of undrawn capacity net of letters of credit. Subsequent to quarter end, GCI distributed $150 million to Liberty Broadband, funded with cash on hand and drawing under its revolver. These proceeds were used to pay down the charter margin loan and were therefore net debt neutral to Liberty Broadband. Pro forma for the dividend payment, GCI's leverage was just under 3.2 times, with $327 million of undrawn capacity under its revolver net of letters of credit. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Greg.
spk04: Thanks, Brian. And to the listening audience, we appreciate your continued interest in Liberty Broadband and Liberty Trip Advisor. And with that, operator, I'd like to open the call for questions.
spk05: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question today comes from Ben Swinburne of Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Thanks. Hello again. Greg, a couple questions on charter. Yesterday, there was a bipartisan group of senators introduced an ACP extension act in the Senate, obviously. I don't know if you, you didn't mention anything in your prepared remarks on this front. I'm curious if you have any, if there's any ray of hope here that there might be a kick save last minute on ACP. And then similarly on Charter, you know, you could probably make an argument. I don't know if you would agree, probably not, given the Liberty lens that maybe deleveraging would be better for the equity value than buying back stock here. I'm just curious, you know, what your position is on that when you think about interest rates and kind of what the credit markets look like right now relative to the stock price and the company's free cash flow generation.
spk04: Thanks a lot. I have to say, I only just heard a little bit about the, after the Senate on the ACP extension, don't know much to comment beyond it. I think there's always hope, but, you know, there is certainly a, well, there is some consensus both among Republicans and Democrats for extending it. There also seems to be many procedural issues that are, you know, why it might get tied up and therefore, you know, we can't certainly count on it. On the leverage question, I think, Ben, you may have noticed that both our comments said in the near term we expect to use more of the cash flow we get from charter through buybacks to reduce our debt at Liberty Broadband. And I think you may have heard also that Charter expect to take its leverage level down from the closer to 4.5 to the middle of that 4 to 4.5 range. So I think they have heard you, at least to the degree that while I think the company can support these levels of debt, both companies, we feel just to show the marketplace that we're responsive and the higher cost of interest We're going to do some work both sides to reduce the overall leverage.
spk01: Okay. Thank you.
spk05: The next question comes from Jeff Lodacek of Pivotal Research Group. Please proceed with your question.
spk07: Good morning again. I'll also focus on Charter. Charter's EBITDA evaluation is about as cheap as it's ever been. It's a discount to the telcos or most of the telcos. Just wondering to get your thoughts, Greg, on the idea that maybe Charter should think about slowing down its footprint expansion and freeing up cash to do larger share repurchases. And then, you know, assuming ACP does happen, you know, how successful do you think Charter is going to be with the tools that it has in not seeing some sort of, you know, ARPU hit in the second and third quarter and keeping most of those subs? Thanks.
spk04: Thanks for the question, Jeff. I think on the question of slowdown, look, these are attractive opportunities that they have under B and other programs, but they are being more thoughtful about them given the alternatives and given the general move towards the market wishing to see free cash flow versus line extension. So I think Chris and team have rightly had a very thoughtful, balanced approach. On ACP, I think there are a bunch of programs which are attractive and should be able to do things to mitigate the loss. I do not think they anticipate big declines in ASP or average revenue per customer given what we have and how many customers we have and what those programs are likely to achieve.
spk06: All right. Thank you.
spk04: Thanks, Jeff.
spk05: The next question comes from Barton Crockett of Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: Okay, thanks for taking the question. I also wanted to ask you, Greg, for thoughts on a cable question, which is the growth of mobile seems to be kind of the bright spot in the industry right now with headwinds on broadband and pay TV at the moment. You know, there's certainly been some, you know, great arguments put out by Charter about the success of some of the buy one, get one free programs and the conversion on that. So, Greg, I'm just wondering from your perspective, you know, given that mobile is a great growth story, but it's still pretty small, not material, not really moving the needle in terms of investor sentiment. Do you think that there's an opportunity to invest more in mobile to move quicker to make it more material to pursue that future where, you know, you're cable companies are the dominant kind of mobile providers like they were with plain old-fashioned telephone in years past. Do you think there's scope to do that? Just your thoughts. That would be interesting.
spk04: Thanks for the question, Barton. Look, I think you're right to note that mobile has been the bright spot, and Charter really has been the most aggressive pursuer of that in the space. among the cable companies. So I'm not sure how much more they can put their foot on the gas. I think just in general, there's reduced activity coming into stores. All of that, it's just there's been a slower process. So they're probably getting as much out of mobile as they can right now. And they are continuing to push that product hard. And I do see future success. remain quite bullish on their growth in mobile and how long they'll be able to continue to take share.
spk06: Okay. And then if I could switch gears and just ask on Liberty Broadband, you know, given kind of the depressed valuations for cable assets all over the place, is there an opportunity for Liberty Broadband to look at rolling up other cable companies, you know, generally? Is there some opportunity there? Is that door really closed on that? thought at this moment.
spk04: Yeah, Barton, I don't think the door is closed, but in general, given the synergies that Charter has, I think in most cases we'd be better off trying to pursue it with Charter or through Charter than doing it directly. But you can't say never. There could be one that makes more sense for us for one reason or another, or Charter's appetite is less likely. But In general, I think we're quite aligned that it's an attractive opportunity, but there aren't an enormous number that are available now that would be appealing, even given charter synergies.
spk06: Okay. Thank you.
spk04: Thank you.
spk05: The next question is from Michael Rollins of Citi. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Thanks, and good morning. Just on Liberty Broadband, another question regarding just the broader impact NAV discounts that you're currently assessing, what do you think the factors are that are driving that discount? And can you discuss the way the Board is prioritizing the possibility of shrinking that discount and the methods that you want to use to do that?
spk04: Yeah, I think, you know, we've talked about how these discounts have arisen in the past. There are fewer – it appears there are fewer funds which arbitrage the opportunity There's more higher cost to borrow on some of those things. We've talked about all that. We're really not the key market participants to judge, but that will be here. What we're doing, generally what we do is we take advantage of the discount by doing share or purchase at the discounted number, and we find that attractive. Obviously, that's slow a little bit with the pace of charged buyback itself, and that's our primary fuel for doing incremental buyback, though we do get free cash flow to FGCI also. The ultimate mitigation of that usually comes in the form of what we've done with LSXM and SXM, or what we did with Liberty Expedia and Expedia, or what we did with Elmedia and DirecTV, where we eventually somehow spin and combine, or if it's already spun, combine our holdco with the opco and end up with a fully valued stock. So that's the ultimate resolution. And in the interim, the primary means is share or purchase to try and take advantage of it.
spk02: And in terms of that resolution, is there a significant amount of OPEX synergy or other considerations in the case of Liberty Broadband that investors should be mindful of?
spk04: Well, Liberty Broadband has some corporate overhead which would be eliminated in any kind of a transaction. And there, I suspect, would be synergies between GCI and Charter and GCI's ability to do more effective purchases of programming, more effective purchases of any network elements that would probably be more efficient than GCI can do on a standalone basis. So, yes, there are probably some synergies there.
spk05: Thanks. Our last question today comes from Jeff Bronchik of Cove Street Capital. Please proceed with your question.
spk08: Good morning, Greg. How are you? I'm going to talk about TRIP. And my quick question would be to you is, do you think, have the negotiations taken what I call a paramount-like situation where really the interest is in buying the L-TRIP for control and that's meeting resistance from investors? taking up all shareholders, or is that not relevant?
spk04: I don't know enough about Paramount what's going on or not going on there. I only read what I read, so I can't make the analogy or not. I can say is we had productive discussions with the special committee. We continue to have those discussions, and I don't think there is tension about any kind of a Liberty Trip premium versus TRIP. I don't think we've seen that tension in the discussions, and Fred, I really can't comment further than that.
spk08: All right. Paramount, we're obviously someone with the blight to buy the redstone stake and not have to offer all other shareholders anything would be my reference, but thank you.
spk04: In general, I mean, you know, just one last point. We have worked hard to try and make sure that we treat all shareholders fairly and not disadvantaged, and I certainly haven't sought some big premium from my B position, we've thought to try and make this the best possible transaction for all shareholders.
spk08: Thank you.
spk04: Thank you. With that, operator, I think we're done. And thank you to our listening audience once again. And thank you for your interest in Liberty Broadband and Liberty Trip. And we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter, if not sooner.
spk05: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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