LifeMD, Inc.

Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call

11/10/2022

spk00: Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today to discuss the results for LifeMD's third quarter ended September 30th, 2022. Joining the call today are Justin Schreiber, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Benison, Chief Financial Officer of LifeMD. Following management's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call is being hosted via webcast, and the recording will be made available via the link in today's press release, which is available in the investor relations section of the company's website. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during this call, the company will make a number of forward-looking statements which are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that may cause the company's actual results to differ to differ materially from those projected. These risks and uncertainties are described in the company's 10-K and 10-Q filings and within other filings that YFMD may make with the SEC from time to time. Forward-looking statements made during this call are based on current information available to the company as of today, November 10th, 2022. The company assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements after today's call, except as required by law. Also, please note that management will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures that this company believes are important in evaluating LifeMD's performance. Details on the relationship between these non-GAAP measures to the most Comparable gap measures and reconciliations thereof can be found in the press release issued earlier today. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay in the investor relations section of the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to LifeMD's CEO, Justin Schreiber. Please go ahead, Justin Schreiber.
spk04: Thank you and good afternoon everyone. Today, after the market closed, we issued a press release containing our third quarter results and uploaded an updated corporate presentation for Q3 2022. I encourage everyone to download and review this presentation on our investor relations website at ir.lifemd.com. During the third quarter, LifeMD made significant progress on multiple strategic and operational initiatives to position the company for its next phase of growth, and more importantly, an imminent path to profitability. I'd like to highlight the following five strategic and operational objectives we executed. First, we significantly bolstered LifeMD's profitability across all business lines and on a consolidated basis, which served to drive our consolidated adjusted EBITDA loss to below $1 million for the quarter. Second, we continue to scale and create significant growth in our virtual primary care business. This strong growth was enabled by successfully launching a host of new features on our primary care platform, such as our prescription drug discount card program, symptom checker, and more. Third, we meaningfully optimized advertising spend and customer acquisition costs. And fourth, We further diversified our telehealth business through the continued scaling of recently launched telehealth products and growth in our B2B partnership business. And fifth, we made extensive progress in both the Work Simply divestiture progress, plus significantly enhancing the long-term fundamentals, revenue, and profit growth potential of Work Simply. Our continued execution of these initiatives further reinforces our commitment to creating long-term value for our shareholders and underscores our drive to deliver upon major areas of guidance that we have provided, mainly in the areas of profitability and the creation of a primary care business with strong patient satisfaction and retention. Perhaps our biggest accomplishment this quarter was the tremendous traction we gained in profitability. We concluded our third quarter with an adjusted EBITDA loss of just $889,000. This represented an 86% improvement versus even the prior quarter sequentially when our adjusted EBITDA loss totaled $6.9 million and is a testament to the tremendous focus we've placed on optimizing our customer acquisition and retention investment while paring back areas that produce growth but not long-term profitability. This, coupled with the tremendous leverage that we are gaining against our fixed operating expenses, is laying the foundation on which we will continue our long-term growth with expanding profit margins. As we undertook this process, we eliminated investment in select product offerings that, while being growth drivers, did not meet our internal profitability thresholds. Now that we have established a solid base to build on, we expect sequential growth to return in the first quarter of 2023 with steadily increasing profit margins. LifeMD also saw continued momentum in the growth of our virtual primary care platform since its launch in the second quarter. I reiterate my belief that VPC, or our primary care platform, represents one of the largest, if not the largest, business opportunity for LifeMD in the years ahead. We eclipsed our previous guidance of ending the third quarter with 2,000 subscribers by nearly 20%. and continue to remain ahead of our previous expectations with growing momentum for this business. In fact, as of today, VPC has almost 4,000 subscribers. Moreover, in recent weeks, we have begun to increase our daily new acquisitions per day from approximately 30 new patients a day to 60 to 90 new patients a day without increasing our marketing spend budget. I'm very encouraged by the continued strong retention we continue to see in this business, which reflects the large unmet need for high quality, affordable cash pay virtual primary care. LifeMD currently offers one of the most comprehensive virtual primary care offerings in the U.S., one where our members gain access to incredible doctors and nurse practitioners, discounted prescription medications, labs, imaging, referrals to specialists when needed, and expert wellness guidance. Our platform not only supports urgent and generalized primary care offerings, but also can facilitate treatment for hundreds of different conditions. And our programs are designed so that patients can see the same doctor over time, which I believe enhances outcomes and the patient experience. As I mentioned earlier, we made major headway in optimizing our marketing spend and CACs in the third quarter. we reduced our blended tax by 18% versus prior year and 8% versus the prior quarter. This is the key driver behind both our ability to significantly reduce our marketing spend as a percentage of revenue and rapidly improve profitability of the business. By operating effectively with these newly reduced tax and focusing our capital on the offerings that drive the best long-term return on investment, we are well positioned amongst our peer group for a balanced combination of growth and profitability, which we believe will be a key driver of long-term shareholder value. Lastly, during this quarter, we continue to make significant progress in diversifying our telehealth business through new telehealth service offerings. As mentioned previously, VPC continues to rapidly scale with increasing momentum. Two recently launched indications, Leap and our proprietary topical pain management offering have also begun to rapidly expand. Following their launch in the second quarter, where they accounted for only about 1% of total revenue and subscriber base, these two offerings have grown to become just under 5% of our total revenue as of the end of the third quarter and combined to become nearly 12% of our total new patient acquisition volume in the third quarter. Beyond our direct-to-consumer telehealth business, we're continuing to successfully build out our business-to-business operation, leveraging our best-in-class telehealth technology platform and affiliated medical group to partner directly with pharmaceutical companies. We recently completed our third pharma partnership, which adds four branded prescription products to our platform. We've built an impressive pipeline of potential deals of which we expect to see several close in 2023, which will help us further diversify our revenue mix with high-margin B2B revenue while providing additional opportunities for cross-selling on our BPC platform. WorkSimply continues to be a tremendous performing asset for the consolidated company, producing rapidly increasing levels of profitability coupled with strong revenue growth. We are currently in the late stage of the divestiture process and actively in negotiations after receiving interest from multiple bidders. Given the extreme value and profit accretion from WorkSimply, which Mark will speak about later, we remain focused on ensuring that any divestiture maximizes value for LifeMD and our shareholders relative to the value WorkSimply can create as part of our consolidated company. We are currently in the late stage of the work simply process and remain in a strong position to create significant value for shareholders with this asset. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Mark. Who provided summary of our financial results.
spk03: Mark, thank you Justin and good afternoon. Everyone. The 3rd quarter of 2022 is a major breakthrough quarter for life. in realizing our pathway to profitability and sustainable long-term profitable growth. We drove our adjusted EBITDA loss to $889,000, which was a 90% improvement versus prior year, and ahead of even our internal expectations. We remain on track to achieve consolidated adjusted EBITDA profitability in the fourth quarter. As Justin mentioned, we have made extensive progress on the WorkSimply process and are currently in the final stage of the process after receiving interest from multiple qualified bidders. At the same time, we are extremely cognizant of the tremendous growth and profit potential of this asset. During the third quarter, WorkSimply not only grew revenue 57% year over year, but also finished with over 1 million of EBITDA on the quarter, which is expected to exponentially grow in the quarters in years to come. In fact, we believe WorkSimply has the potential to produce $20 to $25 million or more in EBITDA in 2023, while producing significant double-digit top-line growth. We plan to provide a further update on WorkSimply prior to the end of this year. Now turning to the results for the third quarter of 2022. Revenue in the third quarter totaled the record $31.4 million, up 26% as compared to the same quarter a year ago. 93% of total revenues in the third quarter were generated by recurring subscriptions. Telehealth net revenues grew by 15% to $21.4 million, while Work Simply net revenues grew by 57% to $10 million. Work Simply revenues grew 23% sequentially as compared to the second quarter. Additionally, Work Simply achieved Q3 EBITDA margins of mid-teens, We expect WorkSimply's growth and rising profitability to continue at a rapid pace. On the telehealth side of the business, we increased our active subscriber base by 36% first prior year to end the quarter with over 176,000 active subscribers. We were able to accomplish this subscriber growth while refocusing our efforts on our offerings that meet our profitability thresholds, redirecting investment into new verticals, and reducing our tax by 18% versus prior year. Gross margins for the third quarter reached 85%, up 500 basis points versus prior year. Gross profit for the quarter totaled 26.7 million, an increase of 35% from the same year-ago period. Operating expenses for the third quarter totaled 33.5 million, an increase of 1.1 million versus the year-ago period. Excluding non-cash expenses of $4.5 million associated with stock-based comp, depreciation and amortization, net of these expenses, operating expenses as a percentage of company revenue decreased by 1,900 basis points as compared to prior year. Equally important, we reduced our marketing expenses a percentage of revenue to 55% versus 81% of revenue in the same year-ago period. and improved leverage in this key spend area by 1,700 basis points versus the prior quarter. Our GAAP net loss attributable to common stockholders for the third quarter totaled 8.1 million, or 26 cents per share. This compares to a net loss attributable to common stockholders of 14.4 million, or 54 cents per share in the third quarter of 2021. Adjusted EPS, a non-GAAP financial measure that excludes non-cash expenses, preferred stock dividends, litigation expense, and foreign currency translation, totaled the loss of $0.03 per share as compared to $0.34 per share in the same year-ago period. Adjusted EPS also improved 87% sequentially versus the prior quarter. Adjusted EBITDA, a non-GAAP financial measure excluding the same categories as noted in adjusted EPS, totaled the loss of $889,000 in the third quarter of 2022. This compares to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $9 million in the same year-ago quarter. Now turning to our balance sheet. Cash totaled $5.8 million as of September 30, 2022, and we have reduced our cash burn rate to approximately $500,000 per month, with the burn rate expected to continue to trend down In fact, we expect to eliminate the cash burn on a consolidated basis by the end of this year. This underscores the company's commitment to prudent capital management, growing our profitability, and eliminating our cash burn. In addition to the potential monetization of the WorkSimply asset, LifeMD has secured non-binding offers for attractive non-volutive financing options that can further augment our balance sheet and capitalize the company regardless of the work simply transaction. This wraps up our financial results. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Justin.
spk04: Thanks, Mark. In summary, third quarter results were strong, demonstrating our commitment and ability to build a profitable long-term business with strong margins. While growth slowed as we had guided, This was the intentional result of shifting our spend into areas producing the best balance of growth and profitability while responsibly investing in the scaling of new verticals, including primary care, pain, sleep, and B2B partnerships with pharma companies. I believe we have one of the strongest business and clinical teams in telehealth, coupled with amazing technology, and have never been more excited to watch our continued transition into a world-class provider of diversified telehealth services and products. Additionally, beyond our core telehealth business, work simply remains a tremendously attractive asset with a rapidly increasing financial profile that is solidly accretive to our overall company results. In closing, I would like to thank our entire team for their hard work and tenacious commitment to building a platform that positively impacts the lives and health of so many people. Also, I'd like to thank our shareholders who have been very supportive in a difficult economic environment. The future is bright for licensee. With that, I would like to open the call for Q&A.
spk00: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, please press star 1 to ask a question. We'll take our first question from David Larson, BTIG.
spk01: Hi. Congratulations on a good quarter, especially the progress on earnings. Can you maybe talk a little bit more about sort of the disciplined approach that you've been taking to, I guess, focus on more profitable product sales areas and you know, basically, I guess, you know, focus less on lower profit areas. Like what exactly are those areas that you kind of exited? And maybe can you talk a little bit more about the decline in or improvement in marketing spend in certain areas? Thanks a lot.
spk03: Yeah, David, this is Mark. So firstly, you know, we, we, we focus pretty heavily obviously on the data as we've done more data, we've been able to see more. So for us, There's been a greater focus on longer-term subscriptions, which we found to be stickier, have stronger unit economics. There were certain, without getting into specifics of certain subscriptions products, but a couple of products in our core portfolio where the returns on investments were nowhere near the typical 1.5 to 2x that we earned in the first year while they drove sales growth, as we've gotten more data, we've taken away marketing dollars from there and reallocated it to the growth of some of the new areas like VPC, sleep and pain, which are all going to continue to pay significant dividends for us, especially heading into 2023. So a lot of it was having more data available to us, beginning to test in the last nine months, moving to a longer subscription terms, and then having diversified our product mix a little bit more, being able to take away from some of those more shorter term subscription, lower performing from an ROI standpoint areas that we were investing in.
spk01: Okay, that's very helpful. And I think you mentioned that the number of subscribers was up pretty significantly on a year-over-year basis. Can you talk about how that impacts the actual telehealth net orders? It looks like the net orders may have declined sequentially, but I think that's by design, right?
spk03: Yeah. So as I mentioned before, we've been moving more and more towards three, six, 12-month subscriptions versus a lot of the one-monthers. So what ended up happening is you're getting more per order. which is obviously also positively affecting your return on investment, your gross margin, and quite frankly, many of these people that make the bigger commitment are also stickier customers. So you're getting more subscribers, but just given the cadence of how those orders are being shipped, the fact that we've also increased our ability to cross-sell more than one prescription or more than one product, in a given customer means that we're getting more per order, but you're not necessarily going to have as many orders to us. The most relevant metric, you know, particularly as we've made this transition is subscribers. We've obviously always shared orders with streets, so we continue to share that. But subscribers is really the, you know, the measure of the health and the growth of the business.
spk01: Okay. And then, Justin, can you talk a little bit about the virtual primary care platform that like how many providers are actually, you know, in the virtual primary care solution? How many physicians or nurses do you have on staff? And can you share any metrics around, you know, the number of patients that are being added on a daily or monthly or quarterly basis? And then also, I think importantly, what the cross-cell and in-cell and up-cell potential looks like with the virtual primary care platform?
spk04: Sure, David, happy to. Right now we have, just on the virtual primary care platform, we have around 15 full-time doctors and nurse practitioners. They're treating patients. We're actively recruiting new nurse practitioners and doctors. One of the limitations to scaling is, it's not a limitation, but we've just been very careful about scaling just the right way and also keeping our CACs where they need to be. But, you know, one of the, we're constantly recruiting, you know, new providers for that platform. You know, as we said in the, you know, earlier in the call, the last couple weeks have been, just the growth has been stellar. I mean, we went from 25 or 30 patients a day to, you know, closer to 100 new patients a day. One thing I'm really happy about is, with the patient reviews of their experience with LifeMD are across practically every indication. I mean, the reviews are out of five stars. They're almost all 4.8 to 5, which is great. I mean, that's the number one metric that we look at internally. And their retention rates look good as well. Even the retention rates for patients that are coming in for one-off treatments like an STD or something to do with COVID or their urgent care appointments. So we're really happy with the metrics. We're really focused on launching some new offerings that we think will improve the return on ad spend even more, make it clearer to patients what the value add they're getting from their LifeMD membership is. We're now beginning to mail out physical prescription discount cards to all of our members, which we think will really reinforce the value that people are getting. We launched the symptom checker on desktop and we're soon really met out on mobile. We're working on some new features that we're launching in Q1, which will One of the big initiatives for this is to offer immediate consults to patients. So right now, most patients are getting a consult within a couple hours. A lot of times it's within one hour. But one of the things we've seen is a lot of patients, when you can give them an appointment within 10 or 15 minutes or even immediately from a waiting room, it's much more desirable and our acquisition costs go down and patients are happier. So We've got a lot of new initiatives. We've got a complete overhaul of our dashboard that we're going to be rolling out in the next 30 to 60 days, which is going to be very transformative for the entire patient experience. We're talking to a number of big partners, which I've mentioned to you in the past, David, but we're getting closer on some big national partnerships that I think will also really enhance the offering. and really strengthen LifeMD's brand as well. This platform is also facilitating what we're doing on the B2B side. That's something that we're really excited about as well. We're adding this month an additional four branded pharmaceutical products where the LifeMD primary care platform will be serving patients that are driven to the platform from the pharmaceutical partner's website. put a lot of work into that technology and we're excited to be rolling that out as well.
spk01: Okay. Um, that's very exciting. And then just, just one more for me, you mentioned, um, you used the phrase a couple of big partnerships. I mean, can you maybe provide a little more color around that to the extent you're able to, like, could LifeMD be a brand that we see it like a large retail channel or perhaps, some large health plans, just any more color around that would be helpful, I think.
spk04: There are two partnership areas that we're very focused on as a company. One is partnering, is a partnership within the pharma services world that could just really help us scale the B2B business as quickly as possible. And the second is partnering with you know, national retailers. You know, most of those retailers have, you know, have pharmacies as well. And so we think that there's a lot that we could do there to increase the visibility of the LifeMD brand, make it easier for our patients to access on-demand prescriptions. And, you know, I think there are, we're in talks with a number of potential partners and I believe that's something that we'll execute on in the coming quarter or two.
spk01: Okay. Congratulations on a good quarter, especially the profitability, and I will hop back in the queue.
spk00: Thank you. And next we'll move on to Mark Weisenberger with B Reilly Securities.
spk02: Thank you. Good afternoon. Continuing on with the VPC segment, You talked about really accelerating patient adoption without increasing the spend. I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit more about where you're getting these patients and through what channels, and is the level of spend that you're currently using to acquire them kind of sustainable going forward?
spk04: Yeah, Mark, sure. This is Justin. I'll take that one. So most of the new patient acquisition for the primary care platform is coming from search right now. So they're high intense searches, people looking for treatment from a virtual provider. You know, we've seen a big improvement, as Mark alluded to in the call. We've seen a big improvement in CAC since, you know, we launched the primary care platform where, you know, I still believe that you know, even as we scale it, we can reduce, you know, acquisition costs and improve return on that spend considerably. There's just a lot of opportunity there. And so, look, the unit economics, we've got a little bit of work to do to get them where we want them to be, but we've got a very, very clear game plan for getting there. And I mean, I believe that When you look at the urgent conditions we're treating, the chronic care management opportunity, and then some of the other specialty areas that we're imminently going into, this platform could grow very quickly.
spk02: Understood. Helpful. And right now, I believe VPC is all cash pay, but I think in the past you might have alluded to opportunities to expand beyond that. Is that still on the radar? And how do you think about moving beyond just purely cash pay?
spk04: We've had in the past 90 days, we've spoken with multiple payers. Some of those conversations are still ongoing. And, you know, we're We're trying to figure out the right strategy there, right? I mean, remember, we now enable patients to use their insurance card for, of course, they can use their insurance card for prescriptions that our affiliated providers are sending to a local pharmacy. They can use their insurance cards if they want to for imaging. They can use their insurance cards for diagnostics, request your LabCorp or any local lab. So most of our business is actually covered We have had some conversations with payers about getting coverage for the virtual consults, but if you really think about the delta between most people's co-pay and what we're charging for a consult, it's not that material. The conversations are ongoing. We're looking at some stuff in the managed care world as well. It's tough for me to say whether it's it's going to be something that's imminent. I don't look at it, you know, the more time we spend looking at it, the less I think it's that material to really scaling our primary care business.
spk02: Got it. Okay. And then you guys talked about the transition to more multi-month subscriptions. And then on the previous call, you had indicated that growth in the back half of this year would moderate, but looking for that to inflect at the start of next year. Wondering, I guess, how with those longer subscriptions, how churn has been progressing relative to your expectations, and do you still expect to see that growth inflect beginning of 2023? Yeah.
spk03: So, yes, we do expect a return to growth in the first quarter of 2023. As far as churn, yeah, the early read is it's in line with our expectations. It's been consistent with some of the other subscription lengths, the differences that you're getting more at every single cycle. So, you know, the economics proves to be a lot better with the payback being a lot stronger, margins being a lot higher as well.
spk02: Great. And I would love to hear some commentary about the ad market and pricing trends and maybe any changes and potential strategy for attracting new patients across the whole portfolio going into calendar 23.
spk04: Yep. Mark, we've got some really exciting stuff in the pipeline. Actually, one big national campaign launching in the next seven to 10 days. could really materially we think will materially and positively impact the growth of our business and then a couple other things behind that so I'd rather not go into too much detail on those competitive reasons but we've got a couple initiatives we've put a lot of time into over the last six months that we're extremely optimistic about and that coupled with improving retention and cross sell and just doing better with a very disciplined acquisition strategy is why Mark and I are very optimistic about Q1 of next year and putting up some great growth numbers.
spk02: Great. And then just the final one from me on WorkSimply. It seems maybe the language has changed a little bit. I think previously you had maybe talked about progressing with one specific bidder, maybe moving a little bit further along. Curious if that entity is still the one that you're focusing on, or maybe just a little bit more detail on how that divestiture process is progressing.
spk03: Thank you. Yeah. Since it's in a privately governed process right now, I can't speak to too much detail other than, yes, everything is progressing. You know, the big thing, work simply, has continued to economically become more and more valuable. And the results have continued to accelerate. And quite frankly, the numbers we think it can put up, you know, in the coming year and even coming years are substantially higher than, you know, when we first entered the process. So those are all things that, you know, we're weighing vis-a-vis. the valuation. We have a very good idea of what the valuation is today. Most of the bidders were pretty consistent. Yes, we're far along such that we're not working with all those bidders. I can't say exactly what we're doing right now, but it's pretty consistent with there. It will be an ultimate decision. We'll just put a pin in this by the end of the year.
spk02: Great. Thank you very much. Congrats on a good quarter.
spk00: Thank you. We'll take a follow-up question from David Larson, BTIG.
spk01: One more quick one from me. Can you maybe talk a little bit about what drove this significant increase in Work Simply revenue from $5 million a quarter and one Q of 21 to $10 million this quarter? And then also, it sounds to me like you don't really have to sell work simply. One of the questions I've been getting from investors is, you know, why sell it? Why not hang on to it? Has that been a consideration? Thanks.
spk03: Yeah. So first of all, you know, as we mentioned last year, work simply like a lot of growth businesses did some testing, tested a few different types of approaches that are funnel trials, pricing, obviously some of that contributed to short-term stagnation at the end of last year, heading into the beginning of this year. That's all behind us. We've gotten to a point where we've really well-defined the business model. And look, they run themselves. They've got a great leadership team over there. So that's been the big reason. I mean, it's a business that's a cash cow, runs itself. They've got a really good machine over there. They've diversified their business. They're no longer just PDF. They're in the resume, HR market, and a couple of other adjacent markets will be coming down the pike pretty soon in relevant areas. To your second question, yeah, I'd say it is something that we are definitely considering. This asset is becoming more and more valuable, and quite frankly, you know, generates a significant amount of, or will generate a significant amount of cash flow that can very easily be used to, you know, fund and invest in core telehealth operations because the capex and work simply is pretty de minimis. So those are all things that we're weighing, and, you know, as I said, we're going to put a pin in it and provide a final update by the end of the year. And look, we're going to make the decision that we think maximizes value for ourselves and shareholders. We do have options. We have other things on the table and we are not in a position where we're obviously forced to have to sell the asset for a price that would not fully recognize the value and or even sell the asset.
spk01: Okay, great. Thanks very much.
spk04: David, I'll just mention, David, I'll mention quickly too, you know, a lot of people forget about the asset that LifeMD financed the acquisition of, you know, which is part of WorkSimply earlier this year, which is ResumeBuild.com. And so, you know, why is Sean growing, just like Mark said, on the PDF side of the business? I mean, he's just, look, he's found a formula that works and you put it, as we've said many times before, I mean, this thing is a cash cow. You put a dollar in, you generate at least $3, if not more, within a year. On the resume bill business, this asset is perfectly positioned for the economy that we're likely going into in a recessionary environment. The unit economics are even better than the PDF business. I mean, they're considerably better than that three-to-one LTV to CAC, Sean's PDF business. And he bought this thing in pretty much the best economy that we've had in the last, you know, however many decades, right? And so what you're going to see now is as the economy gets worse and more and more people look for jobs and need to build resumes, right? You couldn't ask to own a better asset than resumebuild.com with Sean Fitzpatrick's abilities to scale. I mean, it's amazing. So that's the part of the story that gets lost on people, but that really hasn't started to even contribute to the numbers yet. But in Q1, that will start to contribute to WorkSimply's numbers. And I mean, this has just as much upside as the PDF and document business, maybe even more. So it's a, he's done, Sean's done an amazing job building these things. He's an awesome operator and marketer and leader. And yeah, this thing is now, and now it's diversified. There's multiple assets and we, we think the world of Sean and the business he's built and this thing is really valuable and it's going to be valuable one way or another to, to, you know, to license these shareholders. And we will not, I mean, Mark and I have this conversation regularly, like, we're not going to rush to sell it. We're not going to do a bad deal. We have, we have multiple, you know, we have multiple other options given kind of our growth and, you know, the profitability profile company. Now we're not going to have to go out and do some sort of an equity raise at this level. And, you know, we just, we feel really good about the fundamentals of the business and, you know, and the consolidated business, quite frankly.
spk01: Okay, great. Thanks very much.
spk00: Thank you. And there are no further questions today, and that will also conclude today's question and answer and teleconference. We do appreciate your participation. At this time, you may now disconnect. Thank you, and have a great day.
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