Lindblad Expeditions Holdings Inc.

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

2/28/2023

spk01: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Limbled Expedition Holdings 2022 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Financial Results. My name is Bruno, and I will be operating your call today. During the presentation, you can register to ask a question by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I will now hand over to your host, Craig Fallenstein, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you, Bruno. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Lindblad's 2022 fourth quarter year-end earnings call. With me on the call today is Dolph Burley, Lindblad's Chief Executive Officer. Dolph will begin with some opening comments, and then I will follow with some details on our financial results, liquidity, and 2023 expectations before we open the call for Q&A. You can find our latest earnings release in the Investor Relations section of our website. Before we get started, let me remind everyone that the company's comments today may include forward-looking statements. Those expectations are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and performance to be materially different from these expectations. The company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates, and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. If you would like more information on the risks involved in forward-looking statements, please see the company's SEC filings. In addition, our comments may reference non-GAAP financial measures. a reconciliation of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in the company's earnings release. And with that out of the way, let me turn the call over to Delph.
spk05: Thanks, Craig. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us today. In this call, I will recap various highlights from 2022 and also share thoughts on the very positive outlook we have for the business in the months and years ahead. For those of you who have been following our journey, you know that our growth strategy includes both organic growth in our existing fleet and land companies and also strategic acquisitions that are value accretive out of the gate and provide an array of travel options for our adventurous guests. Adding to our platform of premium travel companies focused on creating life-changing guest experiences has been a powerful means of building shareholder value. As a team, we continue to be energized by this dual-pronged strategy and are pushing forward in each of these areas. But before providing you with more detail, I do want to thank all of the people at Lindblad Expeditions, Natural Habitat, Divine Cycling and Adventure, Off the Beaten Path, and Classic Journeys for their tremendous hard work last year. Without their efforts, our company could not have emerged from the pandemic so successfully and would not be so well poised for the future. 2022 is a year that will be remembered as being the year of resurgence. While our full fleet was sailing by the end of 2021 and all of our land companies, including the three acquired during 2021, had restarted operations, it was in 2022 that we started getting more traction. Last year, guests became more comfortable with foreign travel, countries significantly loosened COVID quarantine requirements, and our vendors and partners across the globe eventually returned to a state closer to that of pre-pandemic operations. Craig will provide more detail, but we made significant progress this past year financially, including a $52 million improvement in EBITDA versus 2021. And while the full year EBITDA stood at a loss as we ramped operations, momentum built over the course of the year, and we were EBITDA positive in the second half of 2022. In the Lindblad segment of the business, it was an exciting year regarding the fleet. 2022 represented the first full year of operation for the two new polar ice class ships, the National Geographic Endurance and the National Geographic Resolution. These sister ships, which together represent an approximately 40% increase in guest capacity versus where we were in 2019, performed extremely well in the early and late part of the years in Antarctica, and during the summer months, in the Arctic. Their patented expo hotel technology and polar class 5 ice rating in combination with premium accommodations and dining make these ships extremely effective and comfortable in the most remote places on Earth. In keeping with our philosophy of focusing on smaller purpose-built ships, these two ships with capacities of 126 passengers are able to provide more access to remote locations and a higher number of shore landings per voyage than larger ships can provide. At both poles, we were able to explore areas that we had never visited before with unforgettable wildlife, land and seascapes featuring prominently in our guest experiences. Notably, we were able to go farther south in the Amundsen Sea off Antarctica than ever before and also explore the Northwest Passage weeks earlier than at any time in our history. and Ross Seals were only two of the typically hard to find magnificent polar species that these new ships were able to take our guests to observe based on the ship's remarkable capabilities in polar ice. In addition to the polar ships, this past August we also welcomed the National Geographic Islander 2 into our fleet. Replacing the Islander in the Galapagos, she features more spacious accommodations, indoor-outdoor dining, and amenities such as a science hub, fitness studio, and sauna. She is a beautiful ship that is earning extremely positive guest reviews in her first months of expeditions. Purchase and refurbishment of this ship is a great example of how we can be opportunistic in the acquisition arena given the deep relationships that we have forged for decades in the ship community and with partner shipyards. This past year we also solidified our operating rights in the Galapagos Islands with the extension of our existing cupos, or guest permits, for an additional 20-year period. Our relationships with the Ecuadorian government and the many partners we have on the mainland, as well as in the islands themselves, represent the work of many people in our company over 40-plus years. A further highlight of 2022 was the strength of our land companies. As you may recall, starting with the acquisition of Natural Habitat in 2016 and more recently with the purchase of Off the Beaten Path, divine cycling and classic journeys over the last two years, we've been building a platform company centered around best-in-class adventure travel companies. We're happy to announce that as a group, the land companies generated nearly $18 million in EBITDA in 2022, more than double what Natural Habitat alone delivered in 2019. These companies are riding a strong wave of guests who are returning to travel in these different segments, and they've done a good job building the team and infrastructure to handle this growth. We have just begun to scratch the surface on the benefits of having these leading travel companies under one umbrella and anticipate sustained growth as we capture an even greater share of our guests' travel plans. As excited as we were by the resurgence in 2022, we are even more excited by the expectations we have for 2023 and beyond. As we look ahead, there are several reasons we're optimistic. From a financial standpoint, we expect that we will have a record year in 2023 in both revenue and EBITDA. Demand for high-quality experiential travel continues to grow, and we are well positioned to capture significant piece of that interest. In what is often called the wave season for bookings, typically in the January and February timeframe, we have experienced record inbound call and booking volumes. In January, we averaged over 50% higher net bookings volumes than in either 2022 or 2019. And bookings for 2023 are currently up 47% versus 2019 on the same date that year. The investments we made in 2022 to develop a more robust omnichannel marketing approach by adding significant digital marketing and CRM capabilities on top of our historic combination of email, brochures, and letters is paying off. We effectively doubled the organic link clicks to our website from social media channels, as well as on our on-platform media video views versus 2021. We're also now beginning to unlock the advanced analytics, which will make our marketing approach more effective and more cost-efficient. Looking forward, we expect to roll out our new reservations and booking system, CWARE, in Q2 of 2023. We greatly anticipate that what this upgraded technology will mean for our team and for our travel advisor partners. Ultimately, linking this system to Salesforce and a number of marketing analytics technologies will mean a new day in our CRM capabilities. These technical changes will occur over the course of 2023 and evolve and improve with every passing month thereafter. On a final note regarding my optimism for the future, we strengthened our team meaningfully in 2022. The majority of the new hires occurred in the revenue generation ranks of the organization. We hired our new chief commercial officer, Noah Brodsky, who has great expertise in performance marketing. We also added a senior vice president of sales, industry veteran John Delaney, who is focused on building our base of travel advisor relationships. At the same time, we made several additions to our technology and digital teams and added resources and expertise to our call center and pre-voyage guest service teams. It has been gratifying to see how our mission-driven culture has resonated with excellent candidates as we recruit for roles across multiple functions in the company. The challenges that came with the pandemic are subsiding, but there are just a lingering few that I want to mention as they are continuing to elevate our cancellations versus historical levels. We are finding that there are still a number of guests who are concerned about health risks related to travel, particularly to more remote places. There are also a few countries who still require quarantine measures if someone tests positive for COVID. We continue to see some headwinds with regard to airline travel in areas such as cost, availability, or reliability. The Northeast Passage, which has numerous stops in Russia, will not be viable anytime soon given the war with Ukraine. So we are now offering guests who had previously booked the Northeast Passage the option to sail the Northwest Passage as well as the Norwegian fjords and Svalbard. In recent weeks, unrest in Peru has caused us to temporarily halt trips to Machu Picchu and the Amazon, which has also impacted several of our Galapagos itineraries. As of today, the situation in Peru is improving, and we intend to soon return to normal operations, provided the unrest across the country does not return. As an overall statement, the challenges of the last few years have driven change inside the company which has made us stronger. We have become faster and more nimble in responding to external factors such as evolving international health policies and geopolitical events. We have also taken this time to revamp and upgrade core processes and systems within the company to handle a higher volume of business. A motivating factor in this work has been that guests are demonstrating an increased appetite for the natural world after more than two years of restricted travel. Their enthusiasm is evident not only during their trips and voyages, but also in their consumption of content. It is this combination of an upswing in guest interest and demand, coupled with our stronger product and company capabilities, that gives me great optimism for our future. I will close by updating you briefly on our ongoing work across the globe in an area that is central to our mission and purpose at Lindblad Expeditions. In 2023, we will continue to build on our environmental and conservation programs that have included our commitment to being 100% carbon neutral. We will also continue to be single-use plastic-free on our ships, as we have been since 2019, and we will maintain our commitment to using only sustainably sourced seafood. All food on our ships will continue to be locally sourced wherever possible. We will also continue supporting artisans in the communities we visit through our artisan fund and through our global gallery retail shops, which bring locally created art and other products to our guests. In the areas of science and education, we will continue to provide space on our ships for scientists to conduct field work, and we will continue to perform citizen science projects as well. Just this past week, The 2023 class of 50 elementary, middle school, and high school teachers who will travel with us as part of the Lindblad Expeditions National Geographic Grosvenor Teacher Fellowship Program were notified that they will be going on voyages across the world. These voyages will help them teach our next generation the importance of loving, studying, and conserving the most remote places on Earth and the wildlife that call those places home. I will turn the call over to Craig. Thanks, Dolph.
spk02: As Dolph highlighted, throughout 2022, we dramatically ramped our operations, delivering record revenues as we began to significantly capitalize on the strategic investments we made over the last several years to expand our fleet capacity and diversify our product offerings. The earnings potential of the company has increased considerably since pre-pandemic levels, and with strong operating momentum across our robust platform, and a growing demand for authentic and immersive travel experiences, we are poised to deliver substantial positive EBITDA in 2023 while further positioning ourselves to take full advantage of our high-quality travel portfolio and deliver sustained growth in the years ahead. Before we look ahead, let me take a few minutes to discuss our performance from this past year as we focused on further ramping operations, cultivating our land acquisitions from 2021, and emerging from the pandemic as a strong and vibrant company. Total company revenue for the full year 2022 of $421 million increased $274 million versus 2021 and was $78 million or 23% higher than 2019 due in large part to our expanded fleet and additional land-focused offerings. At the Lindblad segment, revenue of $278 million increased $195 million year-on-year and $6 million or 2% versus 2019 primarily due to the rampant operations. which included additional available guest nights from new capacity and higher pricing across the fleet. Occupancy in the year was 75%. And while guest counts for the full year were not quite yet back to 2019 levels, you can see the revenue opportunity we have across the expanded fleet as we grow occupancy levels and increase yields. As we increase guest counts across our fleet, we also significantly grew our land platform by further integrating the three businesses we acquired in 2021 and driving more guests in natural habitat. Revenue at the land experiences segment for the full year 2022 of $143 million was more than double 2021, as well as double 2019, as guests returned to traveling with natural habitat and began to experience off-the-beaten-paths immersive trips to U.S. national parks, Dubai's luxurious bike tours in places like Italy and France, and classic journeys, walking adventures across Europe and Latin America. Adjusted EBITDA in 2022 was a loss of $11 million as positive EBITDA of $18 million from our land experience segment was more than offset by losses of $29 million at the Lindblad segment. The land experiences EBITDA was $14 million higher than the full year 2021 and more than double the $9 million delivered in 2019 from natural habitat alone. The Lindblad segment EBITDA loss was a $38 million improvement from the full year 2021 demonstrating the strong operating leverage inherent in our business model as we continue to ramp occupancy levels and maintain high price points. Looking a little closer at the cost side of the business, operating expenses before depreciation and amortization, interest and taxes increased $222 million versus 2021, led by a $159 million increase in cost of tours versus a year ago, primarily related to the rampant ship expeditions, which included higher fuel and crew costs, as well as expenses related to operating additional land-based trips. Fuel was 7% of revenue in 2022 as compared to 5% of revenue in 2021, reflecting higher fuel prices and an increase in the number of ships in operation. Sales and marketing costs increased 33 million versus a year ago, primarily due to higher commissions and royalties related to the increase in revenue and from increased search and direct mail marketing to drive future bookings. G&A spending increased $31 million excluding stock-based compensation of one-time items versus a year ago, primarily due to higher personnel costs as we ramped operations and increased credit card commissions related to final payments for upcoming itineraries and higher deposits on new reservations for future travel. Total company net loss available to stockholders of $116 million, or $2.23 per diluted share, improved $9 million versus net loss available to common stockholders of $125 million, or $2.41 per share, reported a year ago. The improvement reflects the significant ramp in operations, partially offset by $13 million of additional interest expense net associated with higher rates and increased borrowings, mostly related to the delivery of the National Geographic Resolution in September 2021 and our debt refinancing in February 2022. The current year also included a $4.5 million increase in depreciation related primarily to the launch of the resolution, higher tax expense of $8 million, and $16 million lower other income primarily related to costs associated with debt refinancing in 2022 and lower income in 2022 versus 2021 from utilization of the SEARCH grant for covered expenses. Looking quickly at the fourth quarter of 2022, revenue increased 80% compared to the same period in 2021 and 56% greater than 2019 due to the expanded fleet and growth of our land offerings. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $2.7 million, and as I highlighted in our last call, this was anticipated given the seasonality of our business and elevated short-term cancellation rates. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with $133 million in cash and investments and remain well-positioned to continue to ramp operations and weather any additional short-term uncertainties. Cash and investments declined $40 million from the end of 2021, with free cash flow a use of $40 million, as cash from operations of $24 million was offset by interest payments of $26 million and CapTRAX of $38 million, which included over $20 million spending on the National Geographic Islander 2 and our digital transformation initiatives. Looking ahead, we are excited by the sustained operating momentum across our expanded platform. And we anticipate significant growth in 2023, driven by additional guest nights, higher occupancies, and increased net yields. As Dolph mentioned, the Lindblad segment is in a strong booking position for the upcoming year, pacing 47% ahead of where we were at the same point in 2019. And we have already booked well over 80% of our full-year projected ticket revenues for the year. Given the strong booking trends we are generating, we expect total company tour revenue in 2023 between 550 and 575 million and adjusted EBITDA between 70 and 80 million. Please note that these projections do reflect the impact of elevated cancellations and occupancy in the early part of the year. As of September 2022, we have reverted back to the tighter cancellation policies in place prior to the pandemic and anticipate a return to more normal levels of cancellations as we move through 2023. Overall, we are well positioned for strong results in 2023, and while there will likely continue to be some short-term choppiness, the world has reopened, and our guests are once again experiencing the thrill of exploration. We have ample liquidity to weather any immediate headwinds, and with a strong booking position moving forward, along with an expanded fleet and a broader set of product offerings, we are well situated to build upon our results prior to the pandemic and deliver additional shareholder value in the months and years ahead. Thank you for your time this morning, and now Dolph and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad now. To cancel the question, press star followed by 2. And please do also remember to unmute your microphones. Our first question is from Steve from Stifle. Steve, your line's not open. Please go ahead.
spk03: Yeah. Hey, guys. Good morning. So, Craig, just want to dig in a little more around your, you know, some of the commentary you just made there about your initial guidance for the year. And, you know, can you maybe help us think about the range that you put out there, meaning, you know, what would it take you to get both to the low end of that range and then also the high end of the range? Just trying to get a feel for what you guys, you know, have embedded in there. And then I guess the other question here is, look, if we look at the revenue guidance, it seems the flow through down to the to the EBITDA line is probably a little bit less than what we would have expected. So any commentary there around your cost outlook for this year would be helpful as well.
spk02: Sure. Thanks, Steve, for the question. So when we provided guidance for 2023, the focal point and really the driving factor behind a lot of the variability in the guidance is going to come related to occupancy, as you might imagine. The cost base of the business we feel is very understandable and fixed, and we know what that will look like here over the next kind of 12 months. But it really comes down to the occupancy levels both in does the future bookings continue to come in as anticipated, which right now they are trending very, very positive, and on the flip side of that, do cancellations start to, what I would say, soften a little bit as we head through the course of the year. We anticipate that happening, but those are really the two variables which will ultimately drive us to either the high end of the range or the low end of the range. It'll be more on the revenue side than it would be on the cost side. With regards to the flow through from revenue to EBITDA, there's really two things going on. The first thing is we are expecting really significant growth at our land-based businesses. And the land-based businesses, by definition, do have a lower margin associated with them. So we do expect to see some nice growth across all of the land-based businesses that we have in our umbrella today. And that will obviously deliver higher EBITDA, but it will do so at a lower margin. The second side of this really relates to the occupancy levels across the fleet. The new ships that we've built, the Endurance and the Resolution, which are getting just absolutely rave reviews from our guests, are performing really, really well. The reality of those ships is, however, they are larger ships. As you ramp occupancy on those ships, the margin flow through is magnificent, so the gross profit margin on those ships should be somewhere well north of 50%, trending towards 60% as they get to the occupancy levels that we would traditionally expect for those ships. We're still building to that, and as a result, the margin of those ships will be lower until the occupancies get all the way up to those levels for a full year. So those are really the two driving factors that you're seeing today.
spk03: Okay, that's really good color. Thanks for that, Craig. And then the second question is, you know, look, you obviously are starting, you should be starting to generate some cash flow here at this point. And I know you've talked about, you know, kind of your buyback program. You now have kind of been released from that, you know, main first restriction in terms of buying back your stock. So just want to kind of understand how you, you know, how you think about using your cash, you know, from here moving forward throughout 23.
spk02: Sure. So when we look at the cash that we have on hand and the opportunities in front of us, we really look through the same lens that we've looked at, I would say, since I've been here and really even throughout the pandemic, which is the primary focus here is to drive organic growth, first and foremost. And we feel we have a significant amount of opportunity to continue to do that, given where our occupancies are today, given where our yields are today. So that would really be primary driver number one. Primary driver number two is to look for M&A opportunities, whether it be on the land side of the house, whether it be from the new ship side of the house or some other side of the house, which will improve the long-term growth profile of the company. We've done a pretty good job of that, of being what I would say is judicious with our capital spend in that area over the last six years. We'll continue to do that moving forward. And then the third area, in the absence of those two things, is to return capital back to shareholders. We did that certainly back in – prior to the pandemic. And as things become more clear here with regards to occupancies, with regards to opportunities moving forward over the course of the year, we'll certainly look through that lens and decide whether it's the right time to return capital back to shareholders. We obviously believe that the shares are attractive at the price point that they're at today, but we have a variety of corporate needs moving forward that we want to focus on as well. So that's the lens that we'll use.
spk03: Okay, gotcha. Great color. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
spk01: Thank you. Thanks, Steve. Our next question is from Alex Furman from Craig Hallam Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk00: Hey guys, thanks very much for taking my question and congratulations on what sounds like a strong start to 2023. Wanted to ask about some of the lingering challenges that you're still seeing and try to get a sense of how much they might be weighing on your EBITDA this year. I think you mentioned some things like quarantines in some places and headwinds related to air travel and the loss of the Northeast Passage. Are those major headwinds, as you think about your profitability, and just curious, which is more impactful, those sort of macro headwinds or your own cancellation policy, which has now reverted back to the pre-COVID policy, is that going to be, do you think, the bigger driver of profitability as you start to get through all of the bookings that were made under the old policy?
spk05: Thanks for the question there, Alex. I think the good news is that I think all of the lingering topics are improving pretty steadily. Pretty much consistently now we're getting good news out of foreign countries that are lowering their requirements and it's only just a few such as New Zealand, Panama, Argentina that have even more lenient policies than they had in the past. And I think health concerns are going down dramatically. We're seeing very few incidences of COVID on the ships. That obviously gets back to guests that are communicating with each other in their community. And so I think people are feeling safe. The airline issues were more significant some weeks ago than they are today as the world is kind of getting back into more of a routine. So I would say those are improving, but I would say that those are more significant than the cancellation policy. As it relates to the cancellation policy, we've returned to the pre-pandemic policy, which does have a penalty associated with cancellation. And in 2024, We're actually going to more of what is an industry standard, which is even a higher level of penalty for cancellation, closer to 15% of the cost of the trip. And so I think those will improve. But on a relative basis, I would say the external factors are more significant than the internal ones. And that would be true throughout our industry, but I think we're negotiating them fairly well. Let me turn it over to Craig for a little more specific as it relates to how that's affecting EBITDA.
spk02: Yeah, thanks for the help. When you think about what's impacting us from the items that were mentioned, they all really end up in the same place, which is are we getting to the same levels of occupancy that we want to get to as a company? We're not there yet. We're certainly going to be much better than we were in 2022. But we're not back to the 90% levels that we were back in 2019. And all of these things are an overhang on that side of the house. It's hard to say how much each one of them is as a percentage. But certainly, you know, when people decide at the last minute because they have health concerns to cancel, and it may not be related to COVID, it may be related to any sort of illness, that impacts us because we can't fill that ship in the short period of time where they have the ability to cancel. As I've mentioned, as we get through 2023 and certainly more to the back half of 2023, We anticipate that not to be as much of an issue because the cancellation policy is back to where it was previously. The exception to the, aside from the revenue, what I would say is pressures that we're feeling because of some of the items that Dolph mentioned is it's important to remember that fuel is still a headwind for us. Traditionally, fuel has only been about three or four percent of our overall costs. It's certainly ranking higher than that right now. Prices have come down on the fuel side from where they were at the end of 2022, or I would say more towards the middle to end of 2022, but they're nowhere near yet where they were back in the 2019 timeframe. So there is a headwind on that front as well, which is impacting EBITDA.
spk00: Okay, that's really helpful. And then if I could ask also, it looks like you're going to be chartering some voyages on the C-Cloud 2 in 2024. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Is that in response to... more demand in the Mediterranean, or are there maybe opportunities to free up your other ships to concentrate on other regions?
spk05: Alex, I am so glad that you asked about that. So, as a reminder to those who might not be so familiar, we've had a long relationship with the C-Cloud company, and the original C-Cloud has been just a fantastic charter for us for many years. So it's on the strength of that experience that we wanted to expand the relationship to yet another ship, the Sea Cloud II, which will have that same general geographic orientation, actually, Alex. The greater Mediterranean and then down into the Caribbean is where these ships are designed to go. And these are sailing ships. They're a different experience on board, more of a historic kind of full mast and sail sailing experience for real sailing enthusiasts. So we consider this to be not only just a beautiful way for guests to be in these geographies that we spend a little bit less time in, frankly, with our existing fleet, but also add guests who come in through sort of the vantage point of sailing but then can learn more about the broader expedition product that we offer. throughout the world. And so we consider this strategically helpful, but certainly also financially and audience building.
spk00: Okay, that's really helpful. Thanks very much. You need to go, Alex. You need to go. Take the trip.
spk01: Our next question is from Ryan Sumby from William Blair. Ryan, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hey, guys. Good morning. Congrats on another nice quarter here. Dolph or Craig, I guess outside of the headwinds you've kind of covered here so far, can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing from the consumer and some of the macro backdrop here? Any changes to the guest mix or signs of, you know, shift down in terms of lower-priced rooms or 10 rates or even shorter duration trips?
spk02: Sure. Thanks, Brian. A couple of things on the guest demographic side of the house. First and foremost, if anything, we're actually seeing a shift more to the up rather than the down. What you're seeing across the fleet is, aside from the price points that we're maintaining or rising on our, what I would say is more traditional fleet, the newer price points on some of our newer inventory is at a higher level and we are having no problems getting those price points at the occupancy levels that we're getting across the entire fleet. The price point shift has actually been very, very positive. With regards to any kind of other shifts with regards to our guests, the only thing that I would say has changed a little bit here in the short term, this is really just during the wave season, is we are seeing more newer guests as a percentage versus repeat guests, which is always higher during wave season. We tend to get more newer guests during wave season than we get repeat guests, but the skew has been a little bit more towards the newer side, not dramatically, but a little bit. So I think that's one thing I would point out. The other thing that I would point out is we are seeing, and Dolph talked a little bit about our marketing strategy and our marketing success in his comments, we are seeing more direct business right now as a percentage of our overall business than we are seeing from other sources. So those will be two of the shifts that we're seeing, but all really positive with regards to the guests and their demand.
spk05: Ryan, I'll just briefly add to that. I think a lot of this is a function of the the work that we're doing with search engine optimization. And so we're just seeing a higher incidence of people, particularly for our core geographies, such as Antarctica, Galapagos, and Alaska, that are coming in from the web as opposed to in response to brochures or letters or emails. And so that's been nice to see, and we hope we can continue that throughout the year.
spk04: Let's take it here. Dolph, I thought you sounded excited about pursuing a dual-pronged strategy here, both organic and organically. I guess given the success you've seen on the land-based side, are you looking more actively there, or are you seeing more options out there like what you were able to do with Islander 2?
spk05: I don't think that we have a strong preference for one versus another. We're just focusing on the very best guest experiences that we know will be appealing to our guests And we're trying to make sure that we pay for something that we know we can grow, but at a price that we think is accretive. And so in my mind, our approach and the people inside the company who are doing this are looking not only at land company opportunities, but also ships. And even companies that have ships and may be based elsewhere in the world that have sales and marketing organizations and operating infrastructure that would allow us to create a new base of operation from which to build and serve guests all over the world. So I wouldn't say that we're leaning one way or another, and I feel good about the quality of our diligence and the way we're able to work, particularly with founders and family companies that are looking for a good next step by selling to a company such as ours who knows that we care about their guests and trying to do good work in the world and for the world. And so shared ethos is probably as important as anything else when we are looking at opportunities. Yeah, a lot of times. All right, thank you.
spk02: Thank you.
spk01: As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to ask further questions, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. We currently have no further questions. I will now hand back to Craig Fallenstein, Chief Financial Officer, for final remarks. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you, Bruno, and thank you, everybody, for joining us this morning. We look forward to speaking with you about the company moving forward here, and if you have additional questions, please feel free to reach out either today or over the next several weeks. We're happy to catch up. Thank you. Thank you.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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