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12/11/2025
Good day, everyone, and welcome to the LiveVentures fiscal year 2025 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question and answer session. Now, I'll turn the call over to Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Greg. Thank you, Elvis. Good afternoon, and welcome to the LiveVentures fiscal year 2025 conference call. Joining us this afternoon are John Isaac, our Chief Executive Officer and President, and David Barrett, our Chief Financial Officer. Some of the statements we are making today are forward-looking and are based on our best views of our businesses as we see them today. The actual results could differ materially due to a number of factors, including those outlined in our latest forms, 10-K and 10-Q, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We have no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements after this call, whether as a result of new information, future events, changes in assumptions, or otherwise. You can find a copy of our press release referenced on this call in the Investor Relations section of the Live Ventures website. I direct you to our website, liveventures.com, or sec.gov for our historical SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to David to walk us through our financial performance.
Thank you, Greg. Good afternoon, everyone. Before discussing our financial results, I'd like to touch on a few key highlights from the year. We are pleased to report that our portfolio companies have spent the past year strengthening operating disciplines and optimizing their cost structures. Fiscal year 2025 marked a significant turnaround for live ventures. Divisive actions, including hiring a new executive team at Flooring Liquidators, implementing strategic pricing initiatives, as well as targeted cost reduction measures, drove our progress despite a mixed economy. These efforts contributed to a 10.2 million or 231.7% increase in operating income compared to the prior year when excluding the $18.1 million goodwill impairment recorded in fiscal year 2024. Additionally, we reported adjusted EBITDA of 33.4 million, an 8.9 million or 36.3% increase compared to fiscal year 2024. This strong performance came despite continued softness in the new home construction and home refurbishment markets, which continued to weigh on our retail flooring and flooring manufacturing segments. Let's now discuss the financial results for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2025. Total revenue decreased approximately 27.9 million or 5.9% to approximately 444.9 million for the year ended September 30, 2025, compared to revenue of approximately $472.8 million in the prior year. The decrease is attributable to the retail flooring, flooring manufacturing, and steel manufacturing segments, which decreased by approximately $33.3 million in the aggregate, partially offset by an increase of approximately $6.5 million in the retail entertainment segment. Although revenues declined in fiscal year 2025, we are pleased to report that fourth quarter showed year-over-year improvement, with the fourth quarter of 2025 generating higher revenues than the fourth quarter of 2024. Retail entertainment segment revenue for fiscal year 2025 was approximately $77.5 million, an increase of $6.5 million, or 9.1%, compared to the prior year. The revenue growth was driven by strong consumer demand for vintage and collectible media. Retail foreign segment revenue for fiscal year 2025 was approximately $122.3 million, a decrease of $14.7 million or 10.7% compared to the prior year. The decrease was primarily attributable to the disposition of certain Johnson floor and home stores in May 2024. as well as decreased consumer demand driven by the ongoing weakness in the housing market. Flooring manufacturing segment revenue for fiscal year 2025 was approximately $121.6 million, a decrease of $11.5 million or 8.6% compared to the prior year. The decline in revenue was primarily due to reduced consumer demand as a result of the ongoing weakness in the housing market. Steel manufacturing segment revenue for fiscal year 2025 was approximately $132.6 million, a decrease of $7.2 million or 5.1% compared to the prior year. The decline was primarily driven by lower sales volumes at certain business units as we focused on higher margin business, partially offset by incremental revenue of $11.1 million at Central Steel, which was acquired in May 2024. Despite the decline in revenues, gross profit for fiscal year 2025 increased approximately $900,000 to $145.7 million. Gross margin increased 210 basis points to 32.7% as compared to 30.6% in the prior year, period. The improvement in gross profit was attributable to increased gross margins in the retail entertainment, steel manufacturing, and flooring manufacturing segments primarily due to improved efficiencies, as well as the acquisition of Central Steel in May 2024, which has historically generated higher margins, partially offset by slightly lower margins at the retail flooring segment. General and administrative expense decreased by approximately 4.3 million, or 3.6% to 113.7 million. The decrease was mainly attributable to targeted cost reduction measures, including lower compensation, reduced professional fees, and other expense reductions across the retail flooring and corporate and other segments. Selling and marketing expenses decreased by $5.1 million, or 22.6%, to $17.3 million. Selling and marketing expenses were lower in the retail flooring and flooring manufacturing segments as we prioritized higher impact, more efficient marketing initiatives to ensure continued support for revenue growth. In connection with our continued efforts to strengthen the balance sheet, total debt declined approximately $33.5 million in fiscal year 2025, which included a $19 million modification to the flowing liquidator seller note. As a result, interest expense decreased by approximately $1.3 million, or 7.7%, to $15.6 million. For fiscal year 2025, net income was approximately $22.7 million, and diluted EPS was $4.93 compared to a net loss of approximately $26.7 million and a loss per share of $8.48 in the prior year. The increase in net income reflects stronger operating performance and the added benefit of one-time gains realized during fiscal year 2025. Net income for fiscal year 2025 includes one-time items totaling a net gain of $28.2 million primarily consisting of a $22.8 million gain from the modification of the flooring liquidator seller notes, a $2.6 million net gain on earn-out and hold-back settlements, and a $2.1 million gain related to employee retention credits. Net loss for fiscal year 2024 includes an $18.1 million goodwill impairment charge in the retail flooring segment. Adjusted EBITDA for fiscal year 2025 was approximately $33.4 million, an increase of approximately $8.9 million, or 36.3%, compared to $24.5 million in the prior year. The increase in adjusted EBITDA is primarily due to improved operating performance during fiscal year 2025, reflecting the company's targeted cost reduction initiatives. Turning to liquidity. We ended the fiscal year with total cash availability of approximately $38.1 million, consisting of cash on hand of approximately $8.8 million and availability under various lines of credit of approximately $29.3 million. Our working capital was approximately $62.1 million as of September 30, 2025, compared to $52.3 million in the prior year. As of September 30th, total assets were $386.4 million, and total stockholders' equity was $95.3 million. As part of our capital allocation strategy, we may make share repurchases from time to time. We believe our stock repurchases represent long-term value for our stockholders. During the fiscal year ended September 30, 2025, we repurchased 59,704 shares of the company's common stock at an average price of $8.85 per share. In conclusion, we are pleased with our results for fiscal year 2025. We are not just holding steady, we are building a durable platform of businesses that move and matter in the real economy. Throughout the year, we strengthened our operational discipline and improved our cost structure while navigating ongoing softness in the new home construction and home refurbishment markets. Our team executed well in a challenging environment and delivered solid margin improvements. Across our portfolio companies, our businesses are stronger, more efficient, and more resilient than a year ago. Looking ahead, we believe the actions taken this year position live ventures for continued progress as we focus on driving sustainable profitability and enhancing the overall performance of our businesses. We will now take questions from those of you on the conference call. Operator, please open the line for questions.
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