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spk05: Thank you for holding, everyone, and welcome to Alliant Energy's third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. You may register to ask a question at any time by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. Also, today's call is being recorded, and if you should need any assistance during the call today, please press star 0. Now at this time, I'll turn things over to your host, Susan Gill, Investor Relations Manager at Line Energy. Please go ahead, ma'am.
spk07: Good morning. I would like to thank all of you on the call and the webcast for joining us today. We appreciate your participation. With me here today are Lisa Barton, President and CEO, and Robert Durian, Executive Vice President and CFO. Following prepared remarks by Lisa and Robert, we will have time to take questions from the investment community. We issued a news release last night announcing Alliant Energy's third quarter and year-to-date financial results, narrowed our 2024 earnings guidance range, provided 2025 earnings and dividend guidance, and provided our updated capital expenditure plans through 2028. This release as well as earnings presentation will be referenced during today's call. are available on the investor page of our website at www.alliantenergy.com. Before we begin, I need to remind you the remarks we make on this call and our answers to your questions include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different. Those risks include, among others, matters discussed in Alliant Energy's news release issued last night, and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. In addition, this presentation contains references to ongoing earnings per share, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. References to ongoing earnings exclude material charges or income that are not normally associated with ongoing operations. The reconciliation between ongoing and GAAP measures is provided in the earnings release, which is available on our website. At this point, I will turn the call over to Lisa.
spk08: Thank you, Susan. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our third quarter earnings call. Today, we're pleased to share our Q3 results, another quarter where we delivered solid financial performance while advancing our key strategic priorities. We'll take you through the details of our performance, share our outlook for the remainder of the year, provide insights into our strategic initiatives, and discuss how we're positioned for continued success and growth over the longer term. We are narrowing our 2024 ongoing earnings guidance range based on our confidence in our ability to offset a majority of the negative impacts of temperatures, and we are reaffirming our long-term earnings growth target of 5% to 7%. Looking ahead, I'm pleased to share our 2025 earnings guidance and dividend targets. Our 2025 earnings guidance midpoint represents a 6% increase to our midpoint of our forecasted 2024 ongoing earnings. And our 2025 annual common stock dividend target is $2.03 per share, a 6% increase from this year's dividends. While we are sharing our Q3 2024 results today, our team is acutely focused on the future and building a strong pipeline of investment opportunities while concurrently solving for affordability. Our relentless focus on delivering consistent, predictable results with a steadfast commitment to customer centricity, affordability, reliability, and sustainability serves as the foundation of our strategy. In a rapidly evolving energy landscape, four key strengths set us apart and underpin our success in supporting growth of long-term shareholder returns. An economic development focus. We drive growth in the communities we serve, creating shared prosperity and building robust local economies. Use of a dynamic resource planning model. Our flexible approach to resource planning ensures our ability to scale generation quickly with a non-litigated resource plan to meet evolving customer and community needs. Forward-thinking regulatory alignment. We work proactively with our regulators and interveners to shape frameworks that solve for affordability and growth, strengthening our ability to provide win-win outcomes. Strategic capacity positioning. Leveraging existing resources along with strategic generation queue positions enables us to adapt our generation portfolio as customer needs evolve. These differentiators enable us to pivot as needed to grow with our customers. With that in mind, I'm excited to announce we are preparing to bring two prestigious data center companies to our big Cedar Industrial Center in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. We expect these data centers to add 1.1 gigawatts in phase one, which is anticipated to come online by year end 2028. This first phase of new data center demand is projected to boost our peak demand by nearly 20% over the next five years, with the potential for a second phase by the end of the decade. We are confident in the timing and the magnitude of the 1.1 gigawatts all of which is backed by fully executed land transmission and energy supply agreements. We will continue to provide updates on future loads and new customers as we gain greater clarity on the size and timing of the forecasted load. Our recently approved Individual Customer Rate, or ICR, in Iowa is enabling Alliance Energy to adapt and align with the needs of both future and existing customers while ensuring meaningful long-term growth for our investors. We appreciate the Iowa Utilities Commission recent decisions supporting our rate review settlement and use of the ICR construct. This order stabilizes base rates for Iowa customers through the end of the decade, providing predictability for current and future customers. The ICR also serves as a tool for economic development and community growth in Iowa. we look forward to the Iowa Utilities Commission review of our ICR contracts for these new customers. As we have mentioned in the past, we are committed to ensuring all such arrangements are beneficial for existing customers, new customers, and our share owners. This year, we are refreshing our Clean Energy Blueprint, which serves as our resource planning process and road map. This unique dynamic and non-litigated resource planning process provides for meaningful stakeholder engagement. It is a disciplined and thoughtful approach that proactively adapts to MISO accreditation changes and aligns our energy resources with growing demand. By evaluating our needs to support low, mid, and high low growth scenarios, we have the ability to flex our resource plan as necessary. The 2025 to 2028 capital expenditure plan incorporates a mid-growth scenario or phase one of anticipated economic growth at Big Cedar. We recognize supporting reliability, resiliency, and the clean energy transition requires continued robust planning, a strong transmission network, and a mix of flexible, controllable resources such as natural gas, energy storage, and advanced grid technologies to ensure grid reliability. Our CAPEX plan includes investments in strengthening and improving the performance of our existing natural gas investments, additional energy storage, additional highly efficient natural gas assets to further diversify our energy mix, and finally, as we have done in the past, we will continue to evaluate extending the operation of existing fossil facilities, and repowering opportunities. These investments in energy resources will enhance energy security, create local jobs, and provide valuable tax revenues for the communities we serve, all while maintaining affordable rates for our customers across Iowa and Wisconsin. In both Iowa and Wisconsin, the regulatory environment is collaborative, constructive, and fosters growth. Collectively, it's a win for all stakeholders and critical to our success in meeting the evolving needs of our customers and the communities we serve. I want to underscore our unwavering commitment to continue providing top-tier reliability and achieving our long-term sustainability goals outlined in the Corporate Responsibility Report published this week. We are extremely proud of our efforts to enhance our portfolio of zero-fuel-cost clean energy resources. Alliant Energy continues to be a leader in the clean energy transition, with 1.8 gigawatts of regulated wind and, by the end of this year, 1.5 gigawatts of regulated solar resources. We plan to continue investing in renewable generation and energy storage. In fact, over 40% of our 2025 to 2028 capital expenditure plan includes investments in wind, solar, and energy storage. These investments result in our company having one of the cleanest fleets in the country. Our focus on customers and building stronger communities is at the heart of everything we do. With our strong track record of exceptional project execution, we are confident in our ability to continue meeting customer, community, and investor expectations. Speaking of communities, I would like to extend my gratitude to the many business partners, vendors, and providers who collaborated with our foundation to help raise more than half a million dollars this year to support programs that combat hunger and food insecurity across our service territory. Before we dive into our financial results, I want to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude to our dedicated team members who go above and beyond to help communities in need. In support of the industry's mutual assistance efforts, our team lent their expertise to restore power to communities impacted by Hurricane Helene. The team's dedication and willingness to lend a hand exemplifies the strength and unity of our industry. Thank you for your incredible work and commitment. I WILL NOW TURN THE CALL OVER TO ROBERT TO PROVIDE OUR FINANCIAL RESULTS, EARNINGS AND DIVIDEND GUIDANCE, FINANCING PLANS, AND AN UPDATE ON REGULATORY MATTERS.
spk01: THANK YOU, LISA. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. YESTERDAY WE ANNOUNCED THIRD QUARTER EARNINGS OF $1.15 PER SHARE COMPARED TO NON-GAP EARNINGS OF $1.05 PER SHARE IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2023. Our quarterly ongoing earnings change year over year was primarily due to higher revenue requirements from capital investments at our Wisconsin utility and the timing of income tax expense. These positive drivers were partially offset by higher depreciation and finance expense. The remaining earning drivers for the year largely relate to negative impacts of milder temperatures on electric and gas sales and our team's successful efforts to reduce O&M interest and tax expenses to offset a majority of our temperature impacts. Through September of this year, net temperature impacts on electric and gas margins have decreased Alliant Energy's earnings by approximately $0.10 per share. In comparison, net temperatures decreased Alliant Energy's earnings for the first three quarters of 2023 by $0.02 per share. While temperatures have had a material impact on earnings in 2024, margins from our temperature normalized electric sales have been close to plan. with higher than expected sales to residential and commercial customers, partially offset by lower sales to our low-margin IPL industrial customers, primarily due to less customer-owned generation maintenance in 2024. Turning to our full-year 2024 earnings forecast, as a result of our solid earnings through September, our successful efforts to offset a majority of the losses due to mild temperature impacts and our projected fourth quarter results We have narrowed our 2024 earnings guidance to a range of $2.99 per share to $3.06 per share. As Lisa mentioned, we also announced our projected 2025 earnings guidance range and dividend target yesterday. The 2025 earnings growth is driven by higher earnings from capital investments in both Iowa and Wisconsin, partially offset by higher depreciation and financing expenses. Our 2025 earnings and dividend guidance continue our consistent track record of achieving our long-term growth targets of 5% to 7%. Our team has continued to advance our purpose-driven strategy to ensure we not only accomplish our current year goals, but also enable the achievement of our financial and operational objectives over the long term. These long-term objectives include a strong focus on customer value while planning and investing for the future. We are well positioned to provide competitive rates for our customers over the long term as a result of our economic development efforts, our continued focus on cost controls, and our pursuit of federal program benefits. Our economic development efforts, including new data center loads, are expected to increase energy sales over the long term, which spreads fixed costs across more units sold, thereby driving affordability for our customers and communities. Through our continued focus on operational excellence and cost management efforts to offset inflationary pressures, we are targeting sustainable cost controls across various expense categories to support customer affordability. As part of these efforts, we are restructuring our workforce. We have initiated a voluntary employee separation program in the fourth quarter, which is expected to reduce our current workforce by approximately 5%. In addition, we continue to drive reductions across other expense categories to deliver on investor and customer expectations. One area where we see this happening is with our generation transition. As we continue to move to more renewables and energy storage, while preparing to fuel switch or retire our fossil fuel generation resources, we will continue to reduce our operating costs. Also, with the implementation of our planned additional renewable and energy storage projects, and the repowering of our wind facilities, we anticipate that tax credits and reduced fuel expenses will help offset the impact of increased renewable rate base, rendering these new investments highly cost-effective for our customers. This commitment will result in long-term benefits for our customers and long-term value for our shareholders. With our success thus far in advancing and executing on our capital projects, we expect to continue capturing additional federal benefits by applying for grant and loan funding, maximizing tax benefits from renewables and energy storage projects, and leveraging opportunities to monetize tax credits, which materially improve our cash flows and credit metrics, as well as reduce future financing needs. The US Department of Energy's recent announcement that we were selected for a $50 million grant to advance electric grid reliability, visibility, and control in rural Wisconsin is a great example of our team's successful efforts to capture such federal benefits for our customers. Yesterday we announced an updated capital expenditure plan through 2028. The updates to our plan were largely related to increased capital expenditures for additional generation and energy storage projects necessary to meet growing demand from our customers in the future. Our customer-focused investment plan continues to diversify our generation resources while transitioning our fleet to more renewable and energy storage resources. We have increased our four-year capital expenditure plan by approximately $1.8 billion and now have a compounded annual growth rate of 10% for rate base plus construction work in progress, extending our confidence in meeting the long-term growth objectives shared with our investors. Moving to our financing plans, In September, we successfully completed $650 million of debt issuances at IPO, which has finalized our planned debt issuances for 2024. We plan to use the proceeds from these debt issuances to retire maturing debt in December and finance the 400 megawatts of Iowa solar projects, which we expect to be in service by the end of the year. As we look to future financings and with the increase in our capital expenditure plan, We have provided updated financing plan indications through 2028 on slide 7 of our supplemental slides. Of note, our capital expenditures will primarily be financed with a combination of cash flows from operations, including significant proceeds expected from the continuation of tax credit monetization, and new debt and common equity issuances to maintain regulatory capital structures and a desired parent capital structure of approximately 40%. More near-term, our 2025 financing plans include up to $1.2 billion of long-term debt issuances, including up to $600 million at each of IPL and Align Energy Finance and or at the parent. Our 2025 financing plans also include approximately $25 million of new common equity through our Share and Direct plan. Finally, I'll highlight our regulatory initiatives in progress, as well as those regulatory filings we plan to initiate in the future. We have three active dockets currently in progress before the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin, which involve requests for certificates of authority for customer-focused investments. These dockets relate to investments which will enhance the reliability and resiliency of the Riverside Generating Facility, refurbish the Bent Tree Wind Farm to extend production tax credits from the facility for the benefit of our customers, and enable a new long-duration energy storage project called Energy Dome. which would be sited next to the Columbia Energy Center. We expect decisions from the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin on these dockets in 2025. Turning to our planned regulatory filings in the future, we anticipate filing the Wisconsin Retail Electric and Gas Rate Review for test years 2026 and 2027 by early second quarter of 2025. And in conjunction with our updated capital expenditure plan, We also expect to make regulatory filings in both Iowa and Wisconsin for additional renewables and to special resources to enhance reliability, further diversify our energy resources, and meet growing customer energy needs. I'll now turn the call back over to Lisa to provide closing remarks.
spk08: Thank you, Robert. It's an exciting time to be in the utility industry, and more importantly, it's an exciting time to be at Alliant Energy. In closing, I want to reiterate the elements that set Alliant Energy apart. It's our ability to continually solve the Rubik's Cube of balancing reliability, sustainability, affordability, and long-term growth. Our unwavering commitment to building stronger communities and advancing economic development is the driving force behind our long-term growth opportunities. Our ability to grow in tandem with our customers and communities is underpinned by our flexible, timely, and adaptable resource planning process, which enables us to identify and advance the generation resources needed to support growth. Having access to near-term generation resources allows us to meet our customers' desired timelines. while our investments in future Generation Q positions ensures we are well positioned to adapt and grow at the pace of our customers and communities. As we all know, location matters. We are in a strong RTO, operating as a vertically integrated company with the right and obligation to build, own, and operate generation to serve our customers. in states with regulatory frameworks that align with our ability to support continued growth. As we move forward, we remain focused on aligning and adapting to meeting the evolving energy needs of those we serve and those we have the privilege to serve. We remain confident in our team's ability to execute on our strategic and operational priorities to drive sustainable growth. Thank you for your continued support. We look forward to speaking with many of you at the EEI Financial Conference and plan to post updated materials on our website next week. At this time, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to facilitate the question and answer section.
spk05: Thank you, Ms. Barton. At this time, the company will open up the call to questions from members of the investment community. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1, and if you find your question has been addressed, You may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. Once again, that's star 1 for questions. We'll go first this morning to Nicholas Campanella of Barclays.
spk02: Hey, everybody. It's actually Nathan Richardson on for Nick.
spk08: Hi, Nathan.
spk02: Hi. Happy Friday. Just a couple of questions for you. So should you shift into the high case for load growth, how could that affect where you end up in the 5% to 7%? long-term EPS growth guidance?
spk08: So the way of really looking at that long-term growth is think of it as upside potential. What we're really doing is extending our five to seven growth opportunities. We anticipate that phase two growth would likely be in those later years.
spk02: Got it. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. And then one more on the equity. You're currently guiding to roughly 10% funding of overall CapEx, but only $25 million of issuance of 25. How can we think about contributions in 26 and beyond? Would that be covered under the ATM?
spk01: Yeah, great question, Nathan. This is Robert. As we updated our capital expenditure plan and looked at the additional roughly $2 billion of investments, We do see a need for roughly about a billion dollars of new common equity through 2028 to be able to maintain the strong balance sheet that we have. And the equity ratio is at the parent company of around 40%. And so when you look at our capital expenditure plan over the four years, it is more heavily weighted towards the back half of the plan. So 26, 27, and 28 have higher levels of growth and capex. And so consider that's the appropriate timing when we're going to need that equity balance. As far as kind of the volume of it, I do think it's probably going to be fairly erratably over that 26 to 28 time period. And so with those levels roughly around $300 to $350 million a year in that time frame, there is an opportunity for us to use ATMs at that level. So we'll continue to evaluate that. There could be opportunities for us to reconsider that in the future, but that's what our current plan looks like.
spk02: Awesome. Thank you so much. Have a great day, everybody.
spk05: Thank you. We'll go next now to Julian Dumion Smith at Jefferies.
spk04: Hey, good morning team. Thank you guys very much. Nicely done here, I must say. Kudos. A couple, a quick clarification if I can on the last one here. I mean, you talk about phase two, you know, obviously it's through 28 here on phase one. To what extent is there still kind of a tailwind here as you think about rolling forward into 29 and 30? I mean, whether it's the phase two contribution or whether there's just a further true up on some of the CapEx making its way into earnings and rate base, as you think about like run rate 29, if you want to think about it that way. Again, I don't want to try to get too far ahead of your current plan here, but just try to think about some of the residual benefits here as you think over the subsequent two years.
spk08: Thanks, Julian. And a great question. So as we mentioned, we are acutely focused on economic development. What we're always trying to do is make sure that with respect to the information we're giving investors, we are giving you information where we have a clear line of sight and confidence in the numbers and so forth. So we're going to continue to evaluate that. And once we have a better line of sight with respect to the timing and certainty of that load growth, we'll be providing updates on that.
spk04: Excellent. Okay, fair enough. I know it's, yeah, no, indeed, I think that's the way we'll view it. And then related here, I know you mentioned a few different times in your remarks about this, you know, the ICR and just working on the appropriate tariff structure. And then in tandem here, obviously, there's very sharing bans, et cetera. How would you interpret what we're seeing here today on the midpoint or the mid-range case against where you're targeting in terms of earned return scenarios here. Again, I get that there's a few different permutations, but how would you think about level setting here, especially in the back end of that plan, given the ICR tariff and the contributions from these new data centers?
spk01: Yeah, that's another great question, Julian. Yeah, as we think about the timeframe when we see this data center load ramping up, starting in 2027, 2028 and beyond, the higher the level of load growth, it will likely push us into some of those earnings sharing mechanisms. But think of that as much later in our plan, kind of the back half in that 28 and 29 time periods as we continue to grow the business. And as Lisa indicated, as we think about future phases beyond this initial phase that we see at the Big Cedar Industrial site, that's when you would likely see that triggering those earnings sharing mechanisms.
spk04: Right, so 28 really is kind of the first big year that we would anticipate that kicking in, really.
spk01: Yeah, most likely. There could be opportunities. We continue to talk to several different other interested parties, data centers across our service territory. Big Cedar is just one of the industrial sites where we have these opportunities to scale transmission and mirror that up or combine that up with the resource capacities that we're bringing online for generation to be able to meet these data center loads. As we see other opportunities across the service territory and other industrial sites, the pace of that is largely going to be contingent upon kind of the ability for us to get these other agreements locked up with data centers. And so right now we see visibility to that happening in that 28-29 timeframe, but it could actually be a little bit quicker than that if we're successful in getting some of these other data center contracts completed more timely.
spk04: Excellent. It's not just load growth upside. It's also sharing band upside, depending on how soon you can get this done. Excellent. Thank you, guys.
spk05: Thank you. We go next now to Andrew Wiesel at Scotiabank.
spk03: Hi, thanks for joining everybody. Hi. Excuse me. First, just a quick one on the 24 guidance reduction. Was it just that you were unable to fully offset the weather headwinds from earlier this year or are there other challenges since then?
spk01: Yeah, I think of it largely related to the temperature impact. So what we've seen through the first nine months of the year is about 10 cents of negative temperature impacts. We've also had a fairly warm October to start the fourth quarter. But we feel like we have a good line of sight to be able to offset about 75% of all the negative temperature impacts, thanks to the successful efforts by the team. focused on reducing O&M, interest expense, financing expense. And so with that confidence, we are going to stay within our range. And it's about a $0.03 decrease from the midpoint that we started the year. But like I said, we've been able to offset at least about 75% of the temperature impacts. So that's how we factored into what we used for the updated guidance for 2024.
spk03: Okay, very good. Then on the CapEx side, I think you said the update includes phase one spending. Do you also have assumptions around other economic development deals, or are you conservatively excluding anything else until you get contracts signed? And same thing with the 3% to 5% load growth, trying to see if there's an upside should additional customers show up.
spk01: Yeah, as we think about future economic development activities more broadly, including data centers, that would all be upside to our plan. So that would increase not only the capital expenditure plan that we put in front of the investor group here today, but also sales, which obviously is a key contributor to helping us with customer affordability. So the more of these data centers that will be successful landing into our service territory beyond this initial phase that we feel confident with, think of that as all upside to our plan.
spk03: Okay, then my last question, I want to push you a little bit more and go back to one of the earlier questions here. Longer term, you know, particularly the latter half of your plan here, I want to talk about upside here. You've talked about accelerating load growth based on what you've already got. You've got a 20% pickup in the peak load, 20% increase in the CapEx plan, potential for additional customers. And I know the limiting factor is always affordability. But you just talked about how these new customers help with that affordability side, and you've got the ICR and other customer protections. You talked about earnings sharing in the 27, 28 and beyond. Help me understand here, why are we still talking about 6% and not something faster? What's limiting the potential to not at least say the high end of the 5% to 7% range and And what are some factors keeping us from getting 7% growth or maybe even better than that in the outer years? Or is it just conservatism?
spk08: Andrew, just a great question. So, you know, this is all about timing. We really want to make sure that we have accurately forecasted in terms of when this load is coming online. That's something that you will continue to hear from us on a going forward basis as any updates with respect to the timing of that load. Anything, Robert, that you'd like to add?
spk01: Well, as long as we've known each other, you know we tend to be more conservative than most, and so we're not going to get out in front of our story. And so we'll be sure to share all the information once it's available, but we are going to stay conservative with data center loads until we have those locked up, and then we'll share more information.
spk09: future updates in the future as we finalize additional agreements okay uh thank you very much we'll see you soon thank you we'll go next now to paul fremont of ladenburg hey thank you very much and congrats on a great update um first question on slide five Just to clarify, you're already at the mid with the 1.1 gigawatts, right? So I'm not sure I'm understanding sort of the low flat area.
spk08: Say the last part, Paul, of your question.
spk09: I'm assuming that you've already hit the mid one, you know, roughly one gigawatt. Yes, 1.1. So that would rule out the low flat scenario, right? Just for clarification.
spk08: Yes, yes.
spk09: Okay. And then in terms of discussions or talks, where do you currently stand? Do you think you're close on any other potential announcements, or would you say that that weighs off?
spk08: Well, Paul, as we've indicated, we continue to talk to data centers. We continue to reiterate the fact that we're going to be conservative with respect to talking about prospects. We want to make sure that if they're on our land, we've got the land agreements executed, the transmission capacity agreements executed, as well as the energy service agreements executed. And even with that, what we're looking for is to have that very clean line of sight with respect to the timing of that load growth and the magnitude of that load growth. We certainly understand that these are very large customers, and we want to make sure we've got that timing right so you can reflect it accurately in your models.
spk09: And then when you file in Wisconsin next year, would you consider filing something similar in terms of regulatory plan as what you filed in Iowa?
spk08: You know, we'll continue to evaluate what we put together there in Wisconsin. You know, the Iowa solution is probably likely somewhat unique to Iowa. But, you know, what we're always going to do is look to our jurisdictions, and figure out what's the best solution for existing customers, new customers, and shareholders. Remember, in Wisconsin, we have the ability to go in every two years. We didn't have that ability in Iowa, so that resulted in the need for a different construct there.
spk09: And then last question, in terms of equity, Would you consider using junior subordinated debt issuances to achieve some of your equity contribution?
spk01: Great question, Paul. I would consider that as an option for us in the future. We're going to continue to evaluate all the different financing opportunities for us. Fortunately, we don't see a need for, I'll say, equity content financing instruments in 2025, given where we're positioned. Think of that maybe towards the latter half of next year. We'll consider some different options for us and provide some more information to the investment community once we make that decision.
spk09: Okay. So what you're saying is that the junior subordinated could constitute some of that billion of equity needs that you've identified.
spk01: We'll evaluate that, like I said, when we get to kind of the latter half of 2025, and we'll share some updated information at that time.
spk09: Great. Thank you so much.
spk05: Thank you, we'll go next now to Adya Gandhi at Wolf Research. Adya Gandhi, Wolf Research, Wolf Research, Hi, good morning.
spk10: Thank you for taking my questions. On your long-term EPS growth rate, could you clarify whether the base for that is now the revised 24 guidance midpoint or asked differently? Have you sort of re-based lower as it relates to your long-term earnings growth trajectory?
spk01: Yeah, historically, and we're going to continue with this method, we use the current year information. And so with the 2024 updated earnings guidance, the midpoint is roughly around $3.03. And so that's what you should use for your long-term base going forward.
spk10: Got it. Sorry, just to clarify there, should we think of that as the lower base implying lower longer-term earnings or not is the point I'm getting to?
spk01: Yeah, no, think of us, we're still committed to the long term, a solid 6% growth rate. You will see 2024 was a lower year for us to start with, but we do see higher levels of growth in our kind of range over the longer term.
spk10: Got it. Thank you for clarifying that. And then just moving to your financing plan, Robert, could you just give us some insights into the level of tax credits that you're baking into your plan and then what credit metrics you're targeting?
spk01: Yeah. So we look over the next four years through 2028, we did provide some information in one of the supplemental slides that indicates how we're going to finance the roughly $11 billion of capital expenditure plans. Um, so like we talked about, uh, in my prepared remarks, a majority of that's going to come from cashflow, some operations, including tax credit monetization. We're targeting roughly about $1.6, $1.7 billion of tax credit monetization over that time period with the strong renewables that we have in place now and the additions we're making with new renewables as well as energy storage. We are going to average probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $300, almost $400 million a year in tax credits. And with the success that we've had with monetizing those to date, we feel very confident we've been able to do that in the future. And so that'll roughly be able, like I said, about $1.6, $1.7 billion over that five-year time period.
spk10: That's very helpful. Thank you. And one last quick question. As you're speaking to additional customers about future load growth opportunities, should we expect another sort of revision before Q3 of next year? Is that something you'd consider or Is it just going to be this consistent cadence of Q3 capex updates?
spk08: DR. Yeah, we're going to be looking and aligning with some of these new data center loads, so expect a revision possibly the first half of next year.
spk10: DR. That's helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.
spk06: ladies and gentlemen just a quick reminder star one please for questions today we'll go next now to Bill Apicelli at UBS hi good morning um just going back to the question on the 25 guidance so um I guess what what is the the full impact that you're to date for weather on 24 if it was a more normal weather would you would you been more at the 306 or at the midpoint of the original guidance?
spk01: Yeah, like I think in my remarks, Bill, so weather so far through the first three months is about a 10 cent drag on earnings in 2024. We do expect October to add to that, given it's been pretty warm here in the Upper Midwest. And so in total, it's probably closer to maybe 12 cents for the full year. We've been successful, like I indicated before, of being able to offset a majority of that, roughly about 75% of that, through a series of what I would characterize as non-sustainable offsets, tax benefits, some portion of our O&M savings this year, as well as we're going to benefit from the reversal of an ATC ROE reserve as a result of the recent FERC decision. So I think that offsetting is really kind of to position us, get back to that 303 that we've indicated as the midpoint of our guidance for 2024. Right.
spk06: Okay. And then we should assume that that reverts back to normal next year, right? So in terms of the growth year over year, right, you're going to get the weather back, presumably, or that's what you're assuming, normal weather in the guide for 2025, right? So are there any other factors in terms of timing on costs or – other things that are impacting the growth year over year we should think about? You talked about higher financing costs and depreciation, any other color there?
spk01: Yeah. So think of, like I indicated, a majority of the offsets that we've incurred in 2024 to that temperature I would consider as non-sustainable. So we will get back to normal weather in 2025, but we won't have some of those non-sustainable offsets in 2024. So it neutrals out... And kind of gets us back to a position of having a normal run rate of a 6% growth off of that $3.03 in 2025 with the earnings guidance.
spk08: Bill, one of the one things that I would add is that we are going to continue to focus on looking at ways and identifying ways of using technology and so forth to drive costs out of the business. as well as we're going to continue our focus on economic development efforts. And the more we can do with respect to economic development and bringing some of those loads on earlier are just an acute focus of ours.
spk06: Okay, great. And then just what is the more near-term load growth assumption, say, for 2025 or 2026? I appreciate it's going to be ramping as the load develops and the economic initiatives take hold. Maybe when we think about the next year or two on the front end of that, is it at the 3% or is it something a little bit below that? How should we think about the near-term load growth?
spk01: Yeah, when you think about the load growth for us, the data centers that we're referring to, including the initial phase of the data centers that are coming into our big seeder industrial site, think of those as starting up on a larger scale in the 2027 timeframe. So in the next year or two, we're expecting fairly consistent loan growth to what we've seen historically. Think of that as maybe in that one half of 1% or 1% range.
spk05: Okay.
spk06: All right, great. Thank you.
spk05: And ladies and gentlemen, it appears we have no further questions this morning. Ms. Gill, I'd like to turn things back to you for any closing comments.
spk07: With no more questions, this concludes our call. A replay will be available on our investor website. Thank you for your continued support of Alliant Energy, and feel free to contact me with any follow-up questions.
spk05: Thank you, Ms. Gill. Again, ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude the Alliant Energy's third quarter 2024 earnings call. Again, thanks so much for joining us, everyone, and we wish you all a great day. Goodbye.
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