LPL Financial Holdings Inc.

Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call

8/2/2022

spk09: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining the second quarter 2022 earnings conference call for LPL Financial Holdings, Inc. Joining the call today are our President and Chief Executive Officer, Dan Arnold, and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Aldette. Dan and Matt will offer introductory remarks, and then the call will be open for questions. The company would appreciate if analysts would limit themselves to one question and one follow-up. The company has posted its earnings and press release and supplementary information on the investor relations section of the company's website, InvestorLPL.com. Today's call includes forward-looking statements, including statements about LPL's financial future and operating results. outlook, business strategies and plans, as well as other opportunities and potential risks that management perceives. Such forward-looking statements reflect management's current estimates or beliefs and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or the timing of events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward-looking statements. For more information about such risks and uncertainties, the company refers listeners to the disclosures set forth under the caption forward-looking statements in the earnings press release, as well as the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company's recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, the company will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, For a reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the company's earning relief, which can be found at investor.lpl.com. With that, I would now turn the call over to Mr. Arnold.
spk10: Thank you, Justin, and thanks to everyone for joining our call today. Over the past quarter, we remained focused on our mission of taking care of our advisors so they can take care of their clients. Amid persistent market volatility and geopolitical uncertainty, our advisors reinforce the value they provide to their clients by helping them navigate through times of uncertainty. In that spirit, I want to recognize our advisors for their continued care and dedication to their clients, especially when they need it most. With respect to our performance, our second quarter business results led to solid financial outcomes. At the same time, we continue to make progress in our strategic plans. I'll review both of these areas, starting with our second quarter business results. In the quarter, total assets decreased to $1.1 trillion as continued solid organic growth was more than offset by lower equity markets. With respect to organic growth, the business continued to perform well despite market volatility. Second quarter net new assets were $37 billion, which included $25 billion from PUNA and represented 13% annualized growth. These quarterly results contributed to a 10% organic growth rate for the past 12 months. Looking at recruited assets, they were $44 billion in Q2, included $32 billion from CUNA. This brought our total recruited assets over the past 12 months to $84 billion, which was up $4 billion from the same period a year ago. These results were driven by the ongoing enhancements to our model and our expanded addressable market. Looking at same-source sales, our advisors continue to focus on serving their clients and differentiating their solutions in the marketplace. And while market volatility led some clients to moderate their activity in the field, periods of heightened uncertainty are often the environments that reinforce the value of professional advice and with time can serve as a catalyst for advisors to grow their practice. With respect to retention, we continue to enhance the advisor experience through continued delivery of new capabilities and technology, as well as the ongoing modernization of our service and operations. As a result, asset retention was approximately 98% in the second quarter and 98% over the past 12 months. Our second quarter business results led to solid financial outcomes of $2.24 of EPS prior to intangibles and acquisitions, an increase of 21% from the year. Let's now turn to the progress we made on our strategic plan. As a reminder, our long-term vision has become the leader across the entire advisor-centered market, which for us means being the best at empowering advisors and institutions to deliver great advice to their clients and to be great operators of their businesses. To bring this vision to life, we're providing the capabilities and solutions that help our advisors deliver personalized advice and planning experiences to their clients. At the same time, through human-driven technology-enabled solutions and expertise, we're supporting advisors in their efforts to be extraordinary business owners. Doing this well gives us a sustainable path to industry leadership across the advisor experience, organic growth, and market share. Now, to execute on our strategy, we have organized our work into four strategic plays, which I'll review in turn. Our first strategic play involves meeting advisors and institutions where they are in the evolution of their business by winning in our traditional markets while also leveraging new affiliation models to expand our addressable markets. Our recruiting in traditional markets continue to be a source of growth in Q2 with approximately $9 billion in assets. We continue to increase our win rates and expand the depth and breadth of our pipeline, notwithstanding a broader slowdown in advisor movement over the past couple of quarters. Historically, during the initial stages of elevated market volatility, advisors often focus on supporting existing clients and may pause in making strategic decisions like switching firms. However, after advisors have acclimated to the conditions, they will often use times like this to consider new options for their practice, likely creating an opportunity for us from a recruiting standpoint. With respect to our new affiliation models, strategic wealth, employee, and our enhanced RAA offerings, We recruited over $2 billion in assets in Q3 and believe we are well-positioned to drive continued growth across all three months. The second quarter saw a new high for recruited assets in our employee model, as the value proposition for advisors has proven to be compelling. As a complement to our organic growth, we recently announced the acquisition of the private client group business at Binning and Scatterpool, which we will onboard to our employee model early next year. With respect to large financial institutions, we onboarded CUNA in May, and we are on track to onboard People's United later this year. We continue to learn from each experience and use these findings to drive innovation that improves the transition to LPL, and in turn helps make our offering even more appealing. As we look ahead, we expect to continue winning in this market as demand for our model grows. Our second strategic play? is focused on providing capabilities that help our advisors differentiate in the marketplace and drive efficiency in their practices. As a part of that focus, we continue to enhance ClientWorks, our core operating platform, with the expansion of digitized workflows. For example, in the second quarter, we introduced enhancements to our Move Money solution, which makes it easier and more automated for advisors to support deposits and withdrawals within client accounts. Separately, we also enhance the client management workflow for advisors by integrating goal planning data into our meeting manager solution, which facilitates more efficient preparation for and more value-added dialogue within client reviews. These enhancements help advisors operate more effectively and increase their scalability to serve more clients. Let's next move to our third strategic play, which is focused on creating an industry-leading service experience that delights advisors and their clients, and in turn, helps drive advisor recruiting and retention. As a reminder, over the past two years, we have transformed our service model into an omnichannel client care model, which includes voice, chat, and digital support, thus giving advisors flexibility for when and how they access service. Continue to fine-tune this model to drive additional efficiency and an enhanced experience for our advisors. As part of the next phase of our transformation, we continue to expand and enrich our digital processing capabilities in order to provide greater flexibility, speed, and accuracy for our advisors. Our transformation efforts are currently focused on four clearing functions, including money movement, account opening, and account transfers, which collectively drive the majority of our operational process. And while we remain early in these efforts, we are seeing solid progress as we are now processing millions of transactions for our advisors through the applications of robotics and AI. By expanding the automation of these critical processes, we continue to increase the scalability and efficiency of our platform, while also enhancing the client experience. Our fourth strategic play is focused on developing a services portfolio that helps advisors and institutions run thriving businesses and deliver comprehensive advice to their clients. In the second quarter, our subscription base ended the period at nearly 3,900, with sequential growth moderating slightly in the wake of macro volatility. As we work with advisors on existing services, we continue to identify new needs we can solve for on their behalf, which is a catalyst for further innovation that expands the value proposition of our existing services and surfaces opportunities for new services. One example relates to how former Waddell and Reed advisors utilized our admin solutions on an interim basis to help them during the onboarding process. Based on that insight, we created a set of solutions for shorter-term engagements with our services to solve for a specific need in time for advisors. We are testing some of these with CUNA advisors as they transition to our platform. Looking at our pipeline for the second half of the year, we have several services in pilot and other offerings in the incubation phase. And as we move forward, we remain focused on enhancing and expanding our services portfolio to better support our advisors and drive growth. In summary, in the second quarter, we continue to invest in the value proposition for advisors and their clients while driving growth and increasing our market leadership. As we look ahead, we remain focused on executing our strategy to help our advisors further differentiate and win in the marketplace, and as a result, drive long-term shareholder value. With that, I'll turn the call over to Matt.
spk07: All right. Thank you, Dan, and I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. In the second quarter, we remained focused on serving our advisors, growing our business, and delivering shareholder value. Against a volatile market backdrop, we delivered another quarter of solid net new assets and earnings growth. In addition, we progressed the work to enhance our suite program utilizing free credits to create a combined cash account, substantially completed the integration of what Owen Reed signed an agreement to acquire Benningham Scattergood, onboarded CUNA, and are preparing to onboard People's United. So as we look ahead, we continue to be excited by the opportunities to help our advisors differentiate and win in the marketplace. Now let's turn to our second quarter business report. Total advisory and brokerage assets were $1.1 trillion, down 8% from Q1 as continued organic growth was more than offset by lower equity markets. Total net new assets were $37 billion for a 13% annualized growth rate. Looking more closely at recruiting, Q2 recruited assets were the strongest in our history at $44 billion, which included $32 from QNAP. These results brought our 12-month total to $84 billion. Now let's turn to our Q2 financial results. The combination of organic growth, rising interest rates, higher client cash balances, and expense discipline led to EPS prior to intangibles and acquisition costs of $2.24. This was up 21% from a year ago and is the highest in our history. Looking at our top-line growth, gross profit reached a new high of $711 million, up $42 million, or 6% sequentially. Looking at the components, commission and advisory fees net of payout were $205 million, down $22 million from Q1. The decrease was primarily driven by the seasonal increase in production bonus expense and lower advisory fees following the Q1 equity market. In Q2, our payout rate was 87%, up about 90 basis points from Q1 due to typical seasonality. Looking ahead to Q3, we anticipate our payout rate will increase to roughly 88%, driven by the typical seasonal build in the production bonus, as well as the onboarding QNAP. Moving on to asset-based revenue. Sponsor revenue was $208 million in Q2, down $4 million sequentially, as average assets decreased during the quarter, driven by lower equities. This was partially offset by an $8 million payment from a sponsor related to higher period activity. Turning to client cash revenue, it was $156 million, up $71 million from Q1. This was driven by higher client cash balance, as well as higher average short-term interest rates. Looking at overall client cash balances, they were up in the period, ending the quarter at $70 billion. Within our ICA portfolio, We added capacity in Q2 as we saw further improvements in bank deposit demand, leading to an increase in balances of $8 billion, of which $3 billion are fixed rates and $5 billion are floating rates. Looking more closely at our ICA yield, it was 134 basis points in Q2, up 32 basis points from Q1, primarily driven by the increase in the Fed funds rate during the quarter. As we look ahead to Q3, we expect our ICA yield to continue to increase. Based on where interest rates are today and our historical betas, we expect our Q3 ICA yield to increase to approximately 195 basis. Before moving on, I want to highlight that we updated our reporting of client cash balances. As we prepare for the introduction of the client cash account as our primary sweep overflow vehicle, we have updated our cash reporting to include these balances. In addition, purchase money market fund balances have been relocated to the end notes of our release. The historical data reflecting these changes is available in our historical information file. Now let's turn to service and fee revenue, which in Q2 was $113 million, unchanged from Q1. Within our services group, we ended the quarter with nearly 3,900 subscriptions, which is up about 300 from last quarter. Our services group now generates roughly $32 million of annual revenue, while also contributing to organic growth by helping drive recruiting, same-store sales, and retention. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect service and fee revenue to increase by roughly $10 million sequential, driven by revenues from our National Advisor Conference and IRA. Moving on to Q2 transaction rate, it was $44 million, down $2 million sequential, due to decreased trading markets. As we look ahead to Q3, volumes in July have seasonally declined, which on a run rate basis would result in a decline in transaction revenue of around $10 million from Q2. Now let's turn to expenses starting with Core G&A. It was $286 million in Q2. Looking ahead, we plan to stay disciplined on expenses while continuing to invest to drive growth. Given the increase in interest rates to date, including the rate hikes last week, we are poised to generate significant additional capital. Our framework for allocating this capital remains aligned with the returns we generate, which first and foremost is investments to drive and support organic growth. Now that we are deeper into the rate cycle, we plan to accelerate some of these investments and anticipate up to $20 million of additional 4G&A in 2022. This increases our 2022 core G&A outlook to a range of $1,170,000,000 to $1,195,000,000. Moving on to Q2 promotional expense, it was $84 million down $4 million sequentially, primarily driven by lower conference expense. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect promotional expense will increase to approximately $105 million, primarily driven by conference spend, as we hosted our largest advisor conference of the year last week, which returned to an in-person format for the first time in three years. Now let's move to what Ellen reached. In total, we onboarded over $70 billion, as 99% of client assets joined our platform. We generated EBITDA of roughly $21 million in Q2, or $85 million on an annualized basis. At the end of the quarter, the run rate EBITDA benefit was approximately $100 million, bringing our estimated purchase multiple to 4.5 times. As we have now substantially completed the integration, going forward, we will no longer break out their standalone results. Turning to depreciation and amortization, it was $48 million in Q2, up $3 million sequentially. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect depreciation and amortization to increase by up to $5 million sequentially. As for interest expense, it was $29 million in Q2, up $2 million sequentially, as higher LIBOR rates increased the cost of our floating rate debt. Looking ahead to Q3, we expect interest expense to increase to approximately $33 million, primarily driven by the increase in LIBOR rates. Moving on to capital management, our balance sheet remains strong in Q2, with a leverage ratio at 2.1 times in corporate cash of $241 million. As for capital deployment, our framework remains focused on allocating capital aligned with the returns we generate. Investing in organic growth first and foremost, pursuing M&A where appropriate, and returning excess capital to shareholders. In Q2, we allocated capital to both organic growth and share purchases, buying back $50 million for shares. As we look ahead to Q3, Given our improved level of cash generation, we plan to increase share of purchases to approximately 75 million. In closing, we delivered another quarter of strong business and financial results. As we look forward, we remain excited about the opportunities we see to continue investing to serve our advisors, grow our business, and create long-term shareholder value. With that, operator, please open the call for questions.
spk09: As a reminder, to ask a question, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone. Again, if you have a question that is star 11, please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
spk08: One moment for questions. And our first question comes from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs.
spk09: Your line is now open.
spk06: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. So, Matt, maybe we'll just start off with some of the cash sweep dynamics. In one of the slides, you guys referenced that the deposit betas on subsequent hikes beyond 100 base points are running a little bit lower than what you experienced, I guess, in the last cycle. I guess just curious to get your thoughts on why that is. Is it just the pace of rate hikes has been too fast and we're going to likely play a little bit of a catch up? Or do you think there's a reason to believe that that's more sustainable And maybe just as a follow-up to that, would love a comment on appetite for additional figs duration as we saw you guys have done in the quarter. Thanks.
spk07: Sure, Alex. I think maybe the operative point on that slide or the primary point on that slide is the beta is in the prior cycle. I think we are Just given how much cash is in the system, it's not a surprise to me that the betas so far have been a little bit better, but I would just emphasize a little bit. So I think the center of gravity on where pricing in the product is probably in the zone of last time, which just highlights it's not really a rate-sensitive product. On your second question on fix, I think our objective and goals here remain the same that I think you've heard for quite some time, which is to get into a range of of 50% to 75% of the portfolio on the fixed rate side. And I think that the primary driver on our ability to do that is really demand coming back. So if you look at where we ended the quarter, even though we added some fixed because of the growth that we had, we're at about 25% of the portfolio. And I think when you think about the demand that came back in the market, it's really starting to build up quite well with us being able to add $8 billion of balances in the quarter there was more demand on the variable rate side, right? So about $5 billion of that came on the variable rate side. But the $3 billion on the fixed rate side, that was the most that we've put in place in quite some time, probably since the pandemic began. So I think it's encouraging to see. And as we look ahead, it's going to be really about is the additional demand on the fixed rate side there. And the environment, I think, is conducive in general to that, whether it's the Fed continuing to raise rates or probably more importantly, shrinking their balance sheet and taking cash out of the system to the consumer side where consumer spending remains healthy, loan balances are growing. Those are all things that ultimately would lead to sweep demand overall. And then ultimately, I think some fixed rate demand as well.
spk06: Great. Thanks for that. And just maybe for my second question around organic growth, obviously, and again, perhaps not surprisingly, with more volatility, we've seen moderation in organic growth that curls the industry in terms of just net new assets. As you were to unpack that a bit and think about sort of the slightly lower run rate X to larger transactions, you know, that we've seen from you guys, how much of that is coming from just slower same-store sales versus slower recruiting versus some retention dynamics? Just would love to get a little more color in that as we think on the forward organic growth rate opportunity for the firm as a whole.
spk10: I'll take that one, Alex. Sure. Look, I think if you look at the quarter more closely, right, we saw solid new store activities. And if you look across our traditional markets, the new models, X the large institution, you saw a good, robust activity with, you know, some slowing down. relative to prior quarters in new store sales that has, we believe, more to do with just that macro backdrop as we've talked about. And I think as advisors pivot through that and get a bit more acclimated to that environment and then begin to look forward again, these types of conditions are usually an opportunity for us as we believe there'd be more demand, if you will, to explore looking at one's options and alternatives. And so I think you've seen just a little sluggish in new store sales, which is more backed up with the environment. The retention levels have remained, as we pointed out, at 2% range for the past year to two years. And we feel good about where that is. And that's at the lower end of kind of our target range. And so haven't seen much variability there through the period. And then same store sales is where you see most of the headwinds. Of course, this quarter you have the April dynamic of tax payments that are a headwind on April, and then you saw the equity market volatile and move down much of the quarter. We saw a little sluggishness in April. We saw some same-store sales pick back up in May slightly with the market, and then in June it returned to a headwind. At our conference last week, I think in the dialogue with advisors, you're beginning to hear those advisors get to a place, I think, in this period where they're beginning to see more growth opportunities as they've worked through this period of volatility. And I think that's logical and normal as they see more opportunity to serve new clients who may not be being served as well by other advisors and That ends up being, quite frankly, a stimulus and a structural opportunity to demonstrate value to differentiate when we want it. And so, though a headwind in the second quarter, I do think that, structurally speaking, we still see good opportunities to go forward on same-store sales. But that's the biggest headwind in the short term. Let me pause there. I hope that helps. Great.
spk06: Yeah, no, that's helpful. Thanks, Dan.
spk09: And thank you.
spk08: And one moment for questions. And our next question comes from Steven Chubak from Wolf Research.
spk09: Your line is now open.
spk11: Hey, good afternoon, Dan. Good afternoon, Matt. First off, I just wanted to unpack a recent announcement that you guys made in hiring Bill Sappington. I was hoping you could just speak to the decision around the new hire. It certainly sends a strong signal that you guys are focused on growing some of your banking and lending solutions. It is a sizable revenue opportunity. It's one that many of your peers have pursued. But just wanted to get a sense if you could help us frame the long-term revenue opportunity here, especially since your advisors haven't historically been strong users of that lending product.
spk10: Yeah, this is Dan. Look, from a strategic standpoint, we're trying to, I think, solve for two opportunities. One, we hear our advisors with the appetite to broaden their value to their clients and provide more of what I might call a holistic approach to that overall advice spectrum. And so it's logical that we would think about bringing lending capabilities task management solutions, and integrate those in as part of the client experience and create those products and solutions to add value to the end clients. And then if you, you know, by solving that, you create economics around that, then that certainly is appealing from a strategic standpoint. That's really what we're solving for. I think what we did was go out to the marketplace and say, hey, if we're going to do this right, let's go get the experience and the insight and the leadership to do that. We had been experimenting for a short period of time and just learning enough about it to probably ask smart questions and better identify where our opportunities were and then bring that leadership in to help us go operationalize and execute on that concept. That's what we're doing. We think there's interesting possibilities to do that through good third-party partnerships that have tight integrations into the overall client experience and thus deliver compelling solutions to the end client via those advisors. So I hope that helps. That's our strategy.
spk11: Great. And just for my follow-up, maybe just unpacking some of the rate commentary that you made earlier, Matt, Two things I wanted to clarify. First, have you seen any change in client behavior in July in terms of cash allocations? How much of that cash, if any, has gone back into the market? And secondarily, you gave a lot of helpful color around fixed rate contracts, noted that you had termed out some in the quarter. I'm just trying to gauge your sense of urgency there because The forward curve is pricing and cuts for next year. And there is some concern that if you still are running with a significant amount of floating rate ICA, that the downside risk on cash sweep fees could be more acute if we do enter another easing patch.
spk07: Yeah, I'll take the second one first, Steve. And I think that what I'd emphasize on the fixed rate side is we're below our target range, right? So I think from our perspective, If there's availability in the marketplace for fixed rate, we're interested in doing that. And I think what's encouraging, as I said to Alex, having the ability to add $3 billion just this quarter is really the most amount we've been able to do in a quarter since the pandemic. So I think it's encouraging, but our perspective, I think, is in line with the premise of your question, that we'd like to increase fixed rates from here. It's just all about whether it's available in the market. Now, with respect to your first question, so balances in July, I think when you look at what you would typically see in the first month of the quarter, just a reminder that advisor fees are primarily charged or month one is the biggest month of the quarter, so that typically would reduce cash. But I think that was offset by the continued organic growth that we have as well as the volatility, at least in the first half of July. So those two things kind of netted off, and I'd say July cash balances were relatively flat. But I'd add that the mix improved, meaning we saw further demand or capacity on the ICA side. So ICA balances actually went up while the money market overflow went down. And maybe just to complete the July update, even though you didn't ask it, just to give a little bit of color on the N&A front, which has those same dynamics of advisory fees in the first month of the quarter, as well as that choppy macro. And I think when you factor those things in, July – is looking like something that you would expect in that environment, which is organic growth, call it in the 4% zone. And that is prior to any additional CUNA onboarding, which we have about $5 billion to go on the direct side of CUNA. So I hope that helps. And I'll give you a little bonus hint.
spk11: I appreciate it. Thanks so much, Matt.
spk09: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Michael Cypress from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
spk12: Great. Thanks. Good afternoon. Just had a question on expenses as we think about the moving pieces for this year, but also into 23. And I know probably didn't get any sort of guidance there. But, you know, saw you increase the core G&A growth expense guidance here for 22. I think that implies around 10.5% growth to 13%. percent growth for this year. So I guess, would you be surprised at that level of growth persisted 13% growth for this year? So I guess, would you be surprised at that level of growth persisted into 23 and just any sort of help on the moving pieces as we kind of build our models out to 23 here, adjust in terms of some of the moving pieces around expenses that are coming into the run rate this year from some of the acquisitions. as well as the large mandate wins and initiatives they have going on just in terms of helping us with the run rate impact as we think about a full year impact in 23. But at the same time, I imagine there are some synergies and some expenses that will be falling out. So just any out there would be appreciated.
spk07: Yeah, sure, of course. I mean, I think the key thing, I'll just start with the driver of the increase and specifically where we are in the interest rate cycle. And I think you probably recall the past few quarters we talked about the economics of interest rates going up and our perspective on that, which is really for that first 100 basis points or so increase, that the benefits of that really having that fall to the bottom line and improve out more. And once we got beyond that, really looking to our capital allocation framework to drive those decisions. And, you know, sitting here now well above 100 basis points, I think we feel well positioned to really allocate capital across all three of our primary areas, including what you're asking about on the expense front. And I think when we look at how and where to allocate that, we do focus first and foremost on investments to really drive and support organic growth. And the investments that we've identified to accelerate into this year, that $20 million, are really focused on that, in areas where we typically spend, like technology, capabilities, serving and supporting our advisors. We see opportunities in M&A. The spending in Scattergood is a good example of that that were recently signed. And then, of course, returning capital to shareholders. As I highlighted in the prepared remarks, we plan to increase our buyback to $75 million up from $50 million in this quarter. Now, to your question about next year, I think what we'll do is really share our thinking on next year when we typically do, which is when we get closer to the end of this year. But I'd just emphasize we'll continue to apply our capital allocation framework to really drive how and where we allocate that capital and really focus on making sure we remain flexible and can make decisions really at that time. So we'll give you an update then. And I would just highlight from a share repurchase standpoint with the $75 million plan for next quarter, we are getting close to completing our current authorizations. So that's something that will naturally work to refresh with a new one. And we'll also give you an update after we do that as well.
spk12: Okay. And maybe just on the capital management front to the 75 million buybacks mentioned for next quarter, should we expect that pace to be sort of sustained into the fourth quarter and beyond? How are you thinking about that? And then just more broadly on M&A, you know, clearly saw the transaction announced in the quarter. I think it was an employee model. So I guess where else might M&A be additive to the platform at this point and You know, what sort of properties are you seeing out there and how much time are you guys spending on that?
spk07: Yeah, I mean, I think on the M&A front, it's all about anything that can accelerate our strategy, whether it's when you look at the different types of M&A that we've done from our traditional markets to helping advance our entry into the new market on the technology side and advancing capabilities that we otherwise would have had to build. So I think it all goes back to our strategy. and whether it can advance that or not. And of course, if it's a price that makes financial sense, and if it's a growth acquisition, if operational, we're in a position to be able to bring it on board. So I think that perspective that we've had for a while is really the same. On share of purchases, I just go back to what I said answering the prior question. It's really about our framework and what the opportunities are to allocate capital. I think where interest rates are, we do expect to have more capital to allocate And we'll be focused then on the opportunities we see on organic growth and M&A and returning capital to shareholders through share of purchases. So it just depends on what the opportunities look like. But if share of purchases make sense, we would allocate capital there. We'll just have to see what it looks like at the time.
spk08: Okay. Thank you. And thank you. And one moment for questions. And our next question comes from Brennan Hawkin from UBS. Your line is now open.
spk01: Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I'd like to start with a follow-up to Stephen and Alex's questions. So the floating rate ICA contracts, they're still being done at flat to Fed funds. Matt, you indicated that demand was improving, and we certainly saw that on the volume side. this quarter, but when do you think that that demand is going to translate into price as well? You know, thinking back to the, um, the historical premium to fed fund rate that you typically get on the floating rates.
spk07: Sure. Right. I mean, I think that remember, I think we'll back, um, when it peaked, right. We, I think the fed funds, uh, the variable contracts were in a fed funds of maybe plus 20 plus 25. And I think that was at the peak, right? So where we are now with just the amount of demand and volume, I would just emphasize was a big, big positive for the quarter. And moving from contracts that were Fed funds through Fed funds minus a couple basis points to now starting to get some that are Fed funds plus even, you know, in the five range or so. It's been a pretty quick improvement. So it's hard to know if that trend continues. I just will say when you look out in the marketplace, And, you know, the factors that would drive demand just continue to be there. So it would not surprise me from a balance standpoint if demand continued to increase. And whether those spreads go from the, you know, the kind of five-ish zone that we just saw up to that 2025 that we saw at the peak, that's harder to know. But, you know, keep in mind with Fed funds at 225 to 250, the spread that we're talking about is a relatively small piece of that overall economy.
spk01: Sure, sure. And... I didn't realize that you are seeing some small improvements in price, so that's certainly encouraging and makes sense. On the other asset-based fees, Matt, I believe you flagged an $8 million payment related to prior period activity. Should we consider that to be one time in nature, or is there a reason why that might be recurring?
spk07: Yeah, it's prior period related, so not recurring.
spk01: Got it. Okay. Thanks very much.
spk09: And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Devin Ryan from JMP Securities. Your line is now open.
spk05: Hey, thanks. Good evening, everyone. First question, just want to dig in a little bit more around, you know, if we can get some more flavor on just the pool of advisors in motion today and what you're seeing both there and you touched a little bit Matt on kind of MNA properties, but just, you know, how that's been evolving in the current backdrop. If there's any affiliation model that people are gravitating to in this environment and then whether in terms of just the strategy, you know, whether people are seeking LPL out or if you're kind of aggressively proactively going after either MNA targets or So we're hearing kind of two sides in the market right now. Some people are having a lot of success, as you are. Some aren't seeing much at all. So just love to get a little flavor for that.
spk10: Yeah, Devin, let me take a stab at that and a couple of questions in there. If I don't get it all, please just circle back. So I think with respect to the opportunity set, I think you've heard us talk about for the good past year, there's been slower movements. or less movement, if you will, than historical norms in the overall marketplace. And we've continued to expand our participation rate and grow our share during that period of time. And I think that's probably reflective of the second quarter as well that we just saw. And we are very proactive in the marketplace across all different models, affiliation models, in terms of make sure that, you know, we create awareness for the solutions that we have, this sort of horizontal expansion we've gone on with this multiple affiliation models. We want to make sure that people are aware of the different solutions and problems that we can help them solve with. And certainly our ongoing investment in the vertical integration of our capabilities is making the model more and more appealing to advisors, again, in all different segments. And so We want to make sure that people are aware of that capability set within the base of innovation and the change that's going on. And the team has done a really good job, I think, of creating structure and using data and insights to go to the market in a smart way and a crisp way to tell that story in a consistent way. And so we're very intentional about trying to be good at attracting new advisors and very intentional about constantly working on how can we improve and get better at that. So I think this combination of the capabilities that we've built matched with the growing efficacy of our ability to recruit is leading to that sort of consistent up and to the right kind of results related to our useful service. And again, we see a really strong pipeline notwithstanding what's going on in the marketplace across all of our different models, that is very encouraging. I think the employee-based solution that we have still retains the independent principles. We're seeing, continuing to really resonate out in the marketplace as more and more people become aware of it and really understand the combination of value they get while preserving sort of that principles and most appealing attributes of the independent model. we think has really interesting growth prospects. I hope that helps.
spk05: That's helpful. Thanks, Dan. Maybe just a quick follow-up here on the services business. And you mentioned there's some new services in pilot and incubation at the moment. Not sure if you can give any more detail on what those might look like or what buckets they fit into. And then but you can think about kind of the bigger picture as you continue to scale, you know, is there room for pricing uplift as it sounds like, you know, a lot of the advisors are getting a lot of value out of it and maybe, you know, arguably even underpricing some of the services or, or really is it just more about the differentiation of that platform? And so, you know, it just helps growth and stickiness. Just love to get more colors, kind of the longer term vision.
spk10: Yeah, it's a good question. And look strategically, The hypothesis was, hey, there's real problems and challenges to help these advisors better operate their businesses that we could solve for in a more effective way and in a cheaper way for them, thus creating real alternatives and real appeal. And then if you can then integrate them from automation and technology standpoint, i.e., take the service that's human-centered and wrap technology around it, well, that would be a great way to not only create scalability and efficiency in the overall delivery of those services, i.e., do them for a lower cost, but then, again, improve and enhance the value of it. I think that's the journey we're on. That's the journey we're on with the first generation of solutions that we offer to the marketplace. I think admin, CFO, marketing as good professional services that we started with. I think we continue to refine them and improve and enhance them that will give us potential pricing power in certain of those solutions and services. Or Devin, continue to innovate on how you offer them to the marketplace. And it could be that you turn that holistic sort of CFO solution into different discreet solutions. Think about bookkeeping as a derivative of that that might have a lower price point, but solve for a unique need within the old CFO scope. And so there's a number of iterations that we can take to create product expansion that have different price points that actually make it more accessible and easier for us to serve a broader set of advisors. So you've got both dynamics. It's product innovation meets different positioning in the marketplace that will drive price points. And to your point, if you create more value, then you can also charge more historically consistent but valuable existing services. So I think all those spectrum of possibilities are there for us. We are heavily into the innovation and trying to learn and understand what problems or challenges we're hearing from advisors and then how we can turn that into a service. You mentioned some things that are in the incubation phase and or what I might call pilot phase. Bookkeeping is one of those that we think will be an interesting opportunity that will go to market later this year on. And then we've got another... probably five or six that are in that incubation phase that would then logically would move to a pilot. Hope that helps.
spk05: Yeah, very helpful. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. We'll leave it there.
spk09: Thank you.
spk08: And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Gerald O'Hara from Jeffries.
spk09: Your line is now open.
spk02: Great, thanks. Maybe just sticking with the business solutions for a moment, can you maybe give us a little bit of color or context around kind of the stickiness of the subscriptions and what those kind of renewal terms look like or how long the contracts are or anything to just give us some insight as to the longer-term kind of opportunity there?
spk10: Yes. variety of different solutions and services that are offered, right? So you have the professional services that I mentioned before and CFO marketing, business strategy. Then you have some business solutions that we've created that are more like M&A solutions, our assurance plan, remote office, resilience plan, and even now para-planning as a solution. And so They're slightly different in the value that they create, and they're slightly different in how an advisor may use them. And so they're distinctively different when you think about contracts and things of that nature. But if you take the professional services, generally speaking, that's a one-year contract to start. And typically speaking, We have done that as a way to present it to the marketplace to make sure that it's not a longer-term commitment as people got acclimated service, understood whether it added value to them or not, but then gave us enough time, i.e. a year, to make sure that, you know, they had an informed view and had used it enough to really understand whether it created value for them or not. And I think you have high retention rates on those different types of services. We're also learning into the marketplace, as I said in my remarks. We saw some advisors that moved over from Waddell and Reed on our admin services that used those for a shorter time frame. Their intent was to say, hey, I just want these to help me transition over to LPL. So their vision was just one term on that contract and then ultimately would find a different long-term solution. And so that's a good learning for us and an opportunity to innovate around that and create a different type of solution for a shorter-term specific need in time that might have a higher price associated with it, but still create that value that they need for that short period of time. So that was a good example in learning where you might have had higher attrition rates on the surface of admin services for that period of time, but it was more related to how they were using the service than dissatisfaction service. So again, I think as we innovate on these portfolio and we offer them to the marketplace and we're seeing how people use them in different ways, it's a good learning experience and evolution for us in terms of making sure we fine tune the value and that they're well positioned in the marketplace to meet those specific needs the advisors are looking for help from. Net out is, I think, high retention rates. And again, our opportunity is to continue to create awareness and to make sure that we expand that portfolio so that we reach more advisors with a variety of different solutions that they need. And we think that there's a significant amount of value to be added. It also creates great stickiness around that overall relationship with us and also has a residual knock-on effect of improving and enhancing the overall performance of that practice. So thank you. I scale in the things for sales, higher retention rates that come along with those additional services as part of the relationship and even helps us with new store sales as a differentiated more appealing model.
spk02: Okay, that's helpful. And then as a follow up, I think around about this time last year, you kind of gave some color with respect to the RIA relaunch and sort of how that strategy was coming along, I guess, sort of early days, maybe encouraging pipeline comments along those lines. But I think you also ended by saying you kind of need to go out and sell it. So I'm hoping you might be able to give us a little bit of an update as to how that's coming along. Thank you.
spk10: Yeah, good question. And I think that was about a year ago. We kind of relaunched, if you will, or went to the marketplace in a more offensive posture relative to our RAA offering. And we continue to go to the marketplace looking for those opportunities for folks to leverage us as a vertically integrated strategic partner that are RAAs only. We could see that capabilities and pricing that we believe is competitive and compelling, and you're seeing that show up in the recruiting that we've had over the past 12 months. That said, I think there's more that we can do and more opportunity and we can be more intentional about how we go to the market and really establish ourselves as a differentiated strategic partner and value-added partner and not just a custodian to RIAs and So we have more to play there that you'll hear more about in the coming quarters.
spk08: And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Kyle Voigt from KBW. Your line is now open.
spk00: Hi, good evening. Maybe a follow-up question on capital management. Your current leverage ratio is roughly 2.1 times, which is towards the bottom end of your range, your targeted range. I guess when you consider that ratio is calculated using LTME and the rate sensitivity you've disclosed, it's relatively easy to see how that leverage ratio can very quickly move below one and a half times without you down any debt and still investing significantly in the business. I guess, how do you view your optimal leverage ratio in a period with rapidly growing EBITDA? And I guess, would you be willing to kind of let this trend significantly blow your targeted as we look out here?
spk07: Yeah, Kyle. I mean, I think we're just starting with the range. I think that the 2 to 275, we think, is the right range to operate in. And it does a handful of things. But I think the balance sheet strength is key and supportive of recruiting and supporting the advisors that are with us. It's really, really important. And I think in addition to that, positioning us to have flexibility to deploy capital based on the opportunities that we see, including M&A, investments in organic growth, are important as well. And I think to the point of your question, I think as we get deeper into the interest rate cycle or even where we are right now, I think we feel comfortable and like being positioned on the lower end of that range as the interest rates get higher and higher and the amount of EBITDA that's driven by those economics is a larger percentage of it. I think if we end up dropping below the low end of that range, and maybe I wouldn't say significantly to your question, but maybe by a small amount for a short period of time, I think that's okay. I think our center of gravity and focus is being really deliberate and thoughtful about not only where we allocate that capital, but when we allocate it. So I think that's our perspective. Overall, we want to allocate that capital to drive value, and I think we feel good where we're positioned today.
spk00: Understood. Thank you for that. As a follow-up on client cash, I appreciate the commentary on July, but just a question on the idea of potential sorting and advisory behavior around client cash. Are you seeing any incremental signs of more yield-seeking behavior, whether that's demand for money, treasury, or short-duration fixed-income instruments? And given that we've just gotten the most recent point out last week, and obviously acknowledging that's a very small size, just wondering if there's been any change in behavior you've seen recently that's been notable.
spk07: Yeah. I think I got your question, Kyle. I was breaking up there, but I think when you look at the – the rate sensitivity of our cash and has anything changed? I think the answer is no. And I think just maybe a couple of reminders of the cash that we have in sweep on our business is largely operational. And it's why we tend to have some of the lowest cash as a percent of AUM in the industry where it's usually in the 5% zone. And the primary factor that tends to move that up and down is really market sentiment as opposed to rate-seeking behavior. And I think when you look at just the last couple quarters, and especially this quarter, I think you're seeing that play out. Just looking at Q2, as interest rates have gone up meaningfully during the quarter, our cash balances actually grew both in dollars and as a percent of AUM, up to 6.5%, just given the volatility that you saw in the quarter. So I think that the cash tends to be operational. And even looking back at Q1, the last couple quarters, I think you're seeing empirical data that really validates that the cash, the rate-seeking behavior is really not in the cash that we have.
spk00: Yep, got it. Thank you very much.
spk09: And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Craig Siegenthaler from Bank of America. Your line is now open.
spk03: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Hope you're all doing well. I wanted to come back to the pure RA channel, which you just relaunched a little more than a year ago. Can you provide us an update on how this channel is doing? And I was also interested in how the competitive landscape is evolving with both the merger of two of the biggest RA custodians and also some changes to the macro backdrop year to date.
spk10: Yeah, so I think with respect to the RAA business, look, the last two quarters you've seen our affiliation models collectively we've recruited in each of those quarters a little over $2 billion in assets, and certainly the RAA solution is a significant contributor to that. So, again, we're seeing good traction with our offering in the marketplace today. Okay. As I shared with you, though, we see the opportunity to be a more significant vertically integrated strategic partner than just a custodian. And so that's one of the things that we're trying to be intentional about both in terms of how we think about our offering, our pricing, and even potentially our branding of that offering. And so there's more to play out there that you'll hear more about as we go forward. But we do see the opportunity, given the size of that market, to continue to win share there. I do think that the consolidation of two large custodians, that creates disruption or some potential change in the marketplace. And usually where there's change, if you're well prepared, chance favors the prepared, and you can capitalize on that opportunity. And so I think we certainly see that as one of the possibilities and opportunities amongst a number to win shares as we go forward. I hope that helps give you a little bit more color and context on, A, the opportunity to see and how we're trying to be intentional about capitalizing.
spk03: Thank you, Dan. And then I wanted to do my follow-up on the bank channel. So two big wins last year, two this year with both CUNA and People's United coming shortly. What's the potential for additional bank channel wins? Can you keep the streak of two wins per year? alive next year? And also, is the macro backdrop making it a little tougher to find the next win, just with banks focusing more internally right now?
spk10: Yeah, good question. And so look, as we go forward, our pipeline continues to build across a larger spectrum of financial institution clients. I think it's that typical momentum where you have some success, you continue to iterate and evolve your value proposition, and that tends to create more dialogue and more opportunity. So we certainly see that demand picking up. And one of the biggest hurdles is just the whole onboarding change management transition process. We continue to learn and apply those insights and new innovations. I like to say now make our onboarding and transition process a differentiated capability. And that's one of the things that we saw as a big opportunity to reduce one of the barriers, if you will, of making a transition and a change. And so we think that the track record of steady winds, the ongoing evolution and appeal of our model, smooth transitions, is increasingly making us confident in the durability of the growth in this channel. So that maybe answers your first question. Your second question around the banks and their interest and their willingness to have this dialogue, no. You know, I think the significant opportunity we have to add value across sort of a spectrum of economics meets risk management meets operational efficiency meets potential growth in their programs, notwithstanding the market volatility, There's a lot of reasons to have a dialogue and a discussion, and again, we see those opportunities to explore those possibilities continuing to evolve in a constructive way. So, macro hasn't really altered the trajectory of those discussions.
spk03: Thank you, Dan.
spk09: And thank you. And I am showing no further questions. I would not like to turn the call back over to Dan Arnold for closing remarks.
spk10: Hey, I'd just like to thank everyone for taking the time to join us this afternoon, and we look forward to speaking with you again next week. Have a great day. Look forward to speaking with you again next week.
spk08: Have a great day.
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