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Lantronix, Inc.
11/8/2023
And welcome to the Lentronics, Inc. first quarter 2024 results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on a touch-tone phone, And if you need to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. And now I would like to turn the conference over to Robert Adams. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon and thank you for joining the first quarter fiscal 2024 conference call. Joining us on the call today are Jeremy Whitaker, Interim CEO and Chief Financial Officer and Jacques Issa, Vice President of Marketing. A live and archived webcast of today's call will be available on the company's website. In addition, you can find the call-in details for the phone replay in today's earnings release. During this call, management may make forward-looking statements which involves risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in the earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today and is available on our website, as well as the company's SEC filings, such as its 10-K and 10-Qs. Landtronics undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect future events or circumstances. Please refer to the news release and the financial information in the investor relations section of our website for additional details that will supplement management's commentary. Furthermore, during the call, the company will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures. Today's earnings release, which is posted in the investor relations section of our website, describes the differences between our non-GAAP and GAAP reporting and presents reconciliations for the non-GAAP financial measures that we use. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Jeremy Whitaker, our interim CEO and chief financial officer.
Thank you, Rob. And welcome to everyone joining us for this afternoon's call. First, I'd like to acknowledge the passing of our chairman, Paul Foligno, and thank him for the many years of leadership and service he provided to the Lentronics team. Paul will be missed by all. Now I'll provide the financial results and some business highlights for our first quarter of fiscal 2024, before commenting on our financial targets for the full fiscal year. For FQ1 2024, we reported revenue of 33 million, which was higher than our initial expectations for the quarter. Sequentially, revenue was down 5% and up 4% from the year-ago period. System solutions increased significantly, driven by record revenues from our out-of-band deployments, strong sales to federal customers, and revenue recognition for the remaining QED pilot production units for Gridspertise. We see continuing strength from our IoT system solutions, driven by contributions from out-of-band, the coming production ramp of the QED, and initial shipments of telematics asset tracking solutions to a Tier 1 telecom carrier. As expected, we experienced a sequential decline in embedded systems, as a result of a couple of large shipments in the prior quarter that did not repeat this quarter. Looking forward, we see improving results from this product group, driven by our EV customers across multiple geographies for both hardware and design services. We also expect to begin ramping production of an AI-powered video conferencing product for a large enterprise customer that should contribute meaningfully throughout the remainder of fiscal 2024. In FQ1 2024, software and services revenues were up sequentially, a function of increased design services revenue, and we expect similar activity in the upcoming quarter. GAAP gross margin was 42.7% for FQ1 2024 compared to 39.5% in the prior quarter and 44.1% in the year-ago quarter. The improvement in gross margin was primarily a function of a change in product mix from the prior quarter as a result of the record quarter in out-of-band sales during FQ1 2024. For FQ2 2024, we expect a similar product margin as a percentage of revenue. GAAP SG&A expenses for FQ1 2024 were $9.2 million compared with $9.2 million in the year-ago quarter and $8 million in the prior quarter. The sequential increase in GAAP SG&A was primarily due to lower-than-normal share-based compensation expense during FQ4 2023. GAAP R&D expenses for FQ1 2024 were $5.1 million, compared with $4.5 million in the year-ago quarter, and relatively flat with the prior quarter. GAAP net loss was $1.9 million, our $0.05 per share during FQ1 2024, compared to gap net loss of $1.7 million or $0.05 per share in the year-ago quarter. Non-gap net income was $2.5 million or $0.07 per share during FQ1-2024, compared to non-gap net income of $2.7 million or $0.07 per share in the year-ago quarter. Now turning to the balance sheet. We ended FQ1-2024 with cash and cash equivalents of $19.5 million. an increase of $6 million from the prior quarter. Working capital was $50.2 million as of FQ1 2024 and remained steady with the prior quarter. Net inventories were $45.8 million as of FQ1 2024, a decrease of $3.9 million from the prior quarter. Now turning to the upcoming second quarter and fiscal year 2024. We expect that revenue in the second quarter will be up sequentially as the QED ramps into volume production. We have commissioned the production lines and the customer has approved the firmware to begin manufacturing. Based upon these factors, we expect to begin volume shipments in the next several weeks. As such, we maintain our prior guidance for the QED revenue ramp, expecting approximately $5 million in December 2023, double that in our March 2024 quarter, with the remainder of the shipments falling in our fourth quarter ending June 2024. In a cautious but relatively stable demand environment, we remain optimistic about the fiscal year ahead of us and expect to deliver the fiscal 2024 guidance that we provided during our previous earnings call. We're therefore reiterating our guidance with revenue in a range of $175 to $185 million and non-GAAP EPS in a range of 50 to 60 cents per share. Finally, for those who may not have seen it, I'm excited to report that Lantronics has selected Salil Aswar as its next president and CEO. Salil comes to Lantronics from Synaptics, where he was the SVP and GM of the company's mobile and enterprise division, the largest business unit within the company. Salil was instrumental in the company's pivot from mobile markets and IoT and enterprise application, and drove a multifold increase in market cap for the company's shareholders. Salil will officially join Lantronics on November 20th, and I look forward to introducing him to you on our next earnings call. That completes our prepared remarks for today, so I'll now turn it over to the operator to conduct our Q&A session.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. And if at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And our first question comes from Mike Walkley from Canaccord Genuity. Mike, please go ahead.
Great, thanks. Congratulations on the strong quarter and reiterating guidance for the year despite the tough macro. I guess to start my question, just on the IoT solutions business, it was down as you highlighted before, but just wondering how maybe that pipeline is growing and expanding Qualcomm had its recent Snapdragon Summit with an exciting new announcement that seemed like it could help drive your business. Can you maybe update us on how that pipeline generation is coming for that section of your business?
The second half of the year, we do have a number of design wins that are expected to go into production. And so we are expecting to see the embedded compute business to improve over the next several quarters. That business has tended to be a little bit lumpy because we tend to have a few larger customers driving some of that growth. It is one design win. you know, potentially goes away. We have some others coming in, but the timing of those don't always, you know, overlap, you know, just how we'd like them. As for some of the new products with Qualcomm, we do have some new modules that we are working on and expect to be delivering. So as those, you know, products do come to market, typically what we'll see as an increase in our kit sales and design services, and then that typically then translates into design wins if the customer is successful on the design services. So we do expect to continue to see strong growth coming from the compute business, both on the embedded side and also on the system solutions more specifically as it relates to the grid expertise design win, which is also based upon a Qualcomm process.
Great. That's helpful. I guess, Jeremy, just building on that in a big picture, you've shared in the past 40-plus deals with over $150 million. How is that pipeline holding up given the challenging macro out there?
Yeah, we're still seeing good progress in pipeline and opportunities. I think we provided an update on that maybe it was about six weeks ago on our year-end call and haven't seen any significant change in that outlook or pipeline, but we do continue to see you know, a lot of really good opportunities in the markets that we're playing in. So we're pretty optimistic about, you know, the remainder of fiscal 24 and fiscal 25 based upon the opportunity pipeline.
Great. Last question, I mean, I'll pass the line. Just on the telematics deal with the tier one carrier, anything you can share and just size of the opportunity or timing of ramp or what you're doing for that carrier?
Yeah, this is something we've been working on with them over several quarters. We did receive our first large order from them, a little bit less than a million dollar order. I believe most of that will be shipped in the next couple of quarters. We do expect it to be a multi-million dollar annual opportunity with this carrier. It is in an application where it's helping them monitor power generators, in Towers, or at Towers.
Great, thanks for taking my questions. I'll pass them along.
And our next question comes from Jason Schmidt from Lake Street. Jason, please go ahead.
Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Just following up On Mike's question on the telematics deal, do you anticipate any potential follow-on orders eventually from this customer?
Yeah, we are expecting this to be a longer-term engagement, and so our expectation is this is just the initial order from them and, you know, likely to be a multi-year rollout.
Got it. And then... What are you seeing as far as inventory levels in the distributor channel?
Yeah, our distributor inventories have remained relatively consistent. If anything, they're down a little bit from the prior quarter. We didn't see, I would say, an unusual increase in our distributor inventories over the last several quarters as I've heard other companies indicate. So they're remaining relatively consistent and, if anything, down a little bit.
Okay, that's good to hear. And then just the last one from me and I'll jump back into Q. Can you just give us an update on TOG and any change in expectations there?
Yeah, we're continuing to ship to TOG under the purchase order that we received. It was the last quarter or the quarter before. As I mentioned on the previous call, we received an order for about $13 million from them. Most of that, you know, within the fiscal year. and at a run rate that was about 2x from what we were doing before. So no change to our current forecast. That was already baked into the numbers that we previously provided to everybody on the last call, and it continues to progress well, and we're shipping against the contract.
Sounds good. Thanks for the caller.
Thank you.
And as a reminder, you may press star 1 if you would like to join the question queue. And now we are going to take a question from Christian Schwab from Craighalem Capital. Christian, please go ahead.
Hey, guys. This is Tyler on behalf of Christian. Thanks for letting us ask a couple questions here. So I guess on GridBertiz, great to hear that the production shipments are ramping this quarter. And this year, as expected, I guess, any update there with conversations and negotiations on follow-on orders from that customer?
Yeah, we've been, over the last several months, negotiating a follow-on contract with GridBertiz. So that is still in progress. You know, we are expecting that, you know, Graysville Tees will remain a partner and customer of ours for several years. I think probably the – as soon as we, you know, begin volume shipments and they can begin, you know, their production rollout, that those negotiations will probably, you know, remain somewhat stalled until – you know, we can, you know, they actually start delivering to their customers. But still feel good about, you know, fiscal 25 and, you know, continuing with them as a significant customer going forward.
Great. That sounds great. Yeah, I think all the rest of my questions have really been answered, so I'll pass it on. Thanks, guys.
Thank you.
And we'll take a question now from Scott Searly from Roth MKM. Scott, you may proceed.
Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Hey, Jeremy, just to follow up on the prior Enel question, as you're starting to contemplate what that follow-on looks like, do you see it as being a similar magnitude or otherwise? Your comment about growth in fiscal 25 implies that it's still relatively sizable. So I'm kind of wondering about how you think of the magnitude and size as we get beyond these initial deployments.
Yeah, from what they've indicated to us as it relates to the size of this business for them, the total business is at a magnitude that's much greater than, what we're doing with them in fiscal 24. They have indicated that they may want to dual source the business going forward. And then there will be, as the business grows, there will be more price pressure on the delivery as well. So I think it has the potential to be greater than what we've seen in fiscal 24. the entire business, you know, what portion we get of that, you know, is still being discussed and negotiated.
Gotcha. Maybe to follow up to that, I believe the design that you've done with Nell is applicable into other markets, geographies, and customers. Is that correct? You know, is there interest building beyond just grid expertise in the Italian markets?
So, you know, there is opportunity in other markets for this type of solution and other solutions that we're, you know, have the ability to play in. This specific design is Gridspertise design. So us taking that into other markets, you know, unless we're working with them, you know, would not be allowable. You know, that said, this is still a big market, and we do have a number of other products and designs that can work within it.
Gotcha. And a couple of other things quickly. Gross margins as we progress over the course of the fiscal year, now as we start to see the NL contract ramping up, how should we be thinking about that trajectory? And as well, I was just wondering if you could quickly comment on the EV market in general. I know there's a lot of design activity, and I think in terms of your $150 million plus pipeline, there were some EV design wins in there. I'm just wondering how the visibility on that has progressed. There have been some headwinds on that front. Thanks.
Yeah, so on the margin front, we're still expecting gross margins and slightly below the mid-40s, consistent with what we've been seeing on average over the last several quarters. And even with grid expertise coming in, we do pick up, although some of that is at a margin that's slightly lower than our corporate average, we do get more leverage in the operations model. So we do make up for some of that by absorbing more of our fixed overhead costs. On the EV front, we're working a number of different opportunities. They're all in various stages. A few of those are design service contracts that are currently in play. Expectation is some of those design services contracts will then roll into production agreements. And then we're also continuing to You know, some of the work that we did for TOG, we do have some shared IP around that, and we're looking at how we commercialize that work we've done and take that into the EV market as well. So we have a couple of different areas that we're progressing on as it relates to EV. And this current fiscal year, I would expect, you know, we'll see continued good growth our continued, you know, growth from TOG. And then we, and also as it relates to some of the other service contracts that are in play. And then those service contracts, to the extent they become production contracts, would most likely benefit us in fiscal 25.
Great. Thanks so much. Nice job on the quarter.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, and this will conclude our question and answer session as well as the conference. We thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.