LiveOne, Inc.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. My name is Jim and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Live One Inc. Q1 Fiscal Year 2026 Financial Results and Business Update. As a reminder, all phone participants are in a listen-only mode, but later you will have the opportunity to ask questions. Today's session is also being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Ryan Carhart. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Live One's Business Update and Financial Results Conference Call for the company's fiscal first quarter into June 30, 2025. Presenting on today's call with me is Rob Ellen, CEO and Chairman of Live One. I would like to remind you that some of the statements made on today's call are forward-looking and are based on current expectations, forecasts, and assumptions that involve various risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding the future performance of the company, including expected future financial results and expected future growth in the business. Actual results may differ materially from those discussed on this call for a variety of reasons. Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC for information about factors which could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements, including those described in its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2025, and subsequent SEC filings. You'll find reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed today in the company's earnings release, which is posted on the Investor Relations website. The company encourages you to periodically visit its Investor Relations website for important content. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, contains time-sensitive information and reflects management's view as of the date of this call, August 13, 2025, and accept as required by law the company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise this information after the date of this call. I'd like to highlight to investors that this call is being recorded. The company is making it available to investors and media via webcast, and a replay will be available on its website in the Investor Relations section shortly following the conclusion of the call. Additionally, it is the property of the company and any redistribution, transmission, or rebroadcast of this call or the webcast in any form without the company's expressed written consent is strictly prohibited. Now, I would like to turn the call over to LiveOne's CEO, Rob Ellen. Take it away, Rob.

Thank you, Ryan. And to start with, I want to thank Ryan for the brilliant job he's done as our new CFO. Coming off the dramatic changes in the Tesla agreement and the loss of those revenues, Ryan has just done an absolutely spectacular job of fixing our balance sheet. We replaced East West Bank, who had called in their loan, over $7 million. We replaced them with JGB with over $16.5 million. And then subsequently, we just closed the $10 million equity financing. So, confidently, I can tell you we have the strongest balance sheet that we've had in many years with over $20 million in cash. And with that, we have also eliminated $14 million of short-term liabilities, including $2.5 million alone this quarter. We've just taken the initiative to reduce staff by 31%, cutting our staff down from 138 employees to 95 employees. And now we move to the positive side. As we cleaned up the balance sheet, fortified ourselves with a big cash position, long-term partners, we now move to the really exciting side of the B2B partnerships that have been worked on for numerous years. Starting with the biggest launch in the history of the company with a Fortune 500 company, we have the opportunity of driving to 30-plus million paying subscribers with that partner. We've done the first soft launch as of August 5th. And we see this as a potential opportunity to not only replace Tesla, but could be much bigger than Tesla over the next five years. Secondly, our Amazon deal that we announced a few months ago has gotten off the ground to a spectacular start. A $16.5 million three-year deal, and we fully expect to not only fit our numbers, but to beat those numbers and start looking at larger MGs based on the traffic and audience that we deliver. We also, with our Fortune 250 streaming network, we can now say is well over $26 million in increasing and could finish the year even prior than that. We have 75 additional B2B deals in the works. We are doing soft testing. Our technology team is doing a brilliant job of continuing to work with some of the biggest carriers, car companies, retailers, streaming networks, cable networks around the world, and many others that could be those next big B2B partners. We also just reported record revenues at a podcast one doing $15 million for the quarter. As you may remember, we started this when we acquired that company doing $17 million a year, and we're now on a run rate to do $60 million plus this year. We've just launched for the first time inside of Tesla cars. We have converted a staggering 1.3 million people out of 2 million total cars, probably as big a number as was actually using our service previously. And for the first time, we have just with a large partnership with DAX, the largest programmatic advertiser in the world, we have just launched our ad network and grown from 30% to 82% ad growth in Tesla cars. We have also increased our ARPU from $3 to $5, and this is the time to start converting those Tesla subscribers as you're hearing more and more ads and you have more and more of our hosts driving you to convert. This is the time that we expect the third and fourth quarter of this year to start driving a percentage of those to converting of those Tesla subscribers. We just completed a $10 million equity raise with my good friends at Lucid. Lucid, David Rosenberg, and John Lipton. David was my partner when we did digital turbine and raised our first two rounds of money at $2 and $4 a share and subsequently saw that stock grow to $100. We raised this in a Bitcoin yield strategy and to advance our Web3 initiatives. We have just added three of the prominent leaders in Web3, including Steve McClurg who ran the first ETF and sold the Coinbase, Steve Lehman who sits on the board of Coinbase, and Andy Vick. We brought back to our team to monetize our 10,000 hours plus of video content through tokenization, NFTs, and other digital assets. We've just sold our third TV show through a network to a streaming platform. Barnum Town, Vigilante, and Opportunist. We took in almost a million dollars from those sales and we now have the opportunity, those TV shows, to now become major hits on those streaming platforms and deliver millions to tens of millions of dollars with no additional cost to the company as we continue to build our flywheel. We now have a slate of over 20 potential shows on our platform that are all talking to streaming networks about TV, film, and bringing back some of my team's background and some of the team's expertise at delivering some of the greatest and most profitable movies and television shows in history. Our live events business. We were shut down during COVID. We've had a tough time relaunching it, but now that we're well financed, we've just announced that we will launch our biggest live event since Social Bluffs. When we did Social Bluffs, we did $27 million at night, $4.5 million at Ebay. We now have announced and are launching Reality Olympics series, which will be some of the biggest reality stars in the world in a format like the Olympics with over 275 million followers amongst their audience. Our M&A opportunities. We continue to work with JPMorgan, and we have moved very aggressively now to potential mergers, acquisition opportunities, including a potential sale of a subsidiary. As we move forward, this team is proven again. We survived COVID. We survived a massive loss in revenues with Tesla. We have turned that around and rebuilt that audience with Tesla, converting 60% of those people back into free and paid subscribers. It'll take time to get those revenues back, but a huge opportunity, and we have now proven that our B2B team is starting to hit on all cylinders. As we look forward over the next three years, I see the opportunity again that we can easily achieve those goals, including 10 million subscribers, a half a billion dollars in revenues, with substantial bottom line over the next three to five years. With that, I want to offer the opportunity for anyone to open up for Q&A and ask any questions, and I look forward to our upcoming quarter and the rest of this year. Thank you very much.

And to our telephone audience at this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, ladies and gentlemen, that's star and one on your telephone keypad. If you choose to remove yourself from the queue, press star one once more. Pressing star one will also remove you from today's queue. We'll take our first question today from the line of Barry sign at Litchfield Hills.

Hey, good morning, gentlemen. A couple of questions if you don't mind. First, can you give a rough idea of what the annualized revenue of all the currently signed partnerships would look like for LiveOne and PodcastOne? Because I know that includes podcasts.

Yeah, we can't go much deeper than we've gone, Barry, and that we've said we expect $50 million in B2B revenues, right? We can't get deeper than that, but we will shortly. As I just articulated, we've just launched what could be our biggest partnership in history with multiple others that could be very close behind that.

And just to clarify, Rob, the 50 includes both Flacker and PodcastOne B2B, correct?

Correct. It's across our entire audio business.

And then on the expense side, you just announced the staff reductions. What does EBITDA look like pro forma with those reductions? And I'm concerned, have you reduced the – I know you've added to the Flacker team over the last year or so. Have you reduced that team or the Flacker technology team? Because those would seem to be key to all the 75 partnerships you're working with.

Yeah, as you know, we can't provide guidance at this point. And the EBITDA number is what I can tell you is those cuts are across the board, and a substantial amount of those are at Flacker, right? What AI has done for not just us, but for the overall industry, including starting on the content side, it gives us the ability that – we have 500 music channels and growing, right? And over 50 million songs on our platform, we have the ability to curate now utilizing AI with a way smaller staff to be able to deliver radio stations at an equal or better level than we've ever done before with a way smaller staff. So we've cut across the board, and we're not done with that, Barry, right? We will have additional cost savings, right, moving forward. So we're really excited about what AI and AI initiatives have done for our industry, right, across the board and what it does for our technology team. Couldn't be more excited about the opportunity right now where we are. I wish I could share guidance with you today, but we have not put out any guidance. We will in the very near future.

And then on the Tesla relationship evolution, I think you had at the peak about two million subscribers. I think you said you've converted about 1.3 million to paying – what kind of art pool are you seeing there? You mentioned AI. I know you've talked in the past about using AI to help your advertising to help the conversion. How's that going? And then the rest of them are ad-supported. So about how many ad-supported on top of that 1.3 million subscribers do we have, and what does art pool look like there for ad-supported?

That 1.3 million is total of the Tesla conversions, right? So there were two million cars of which previously the consumer had to choose whether or not they paid for $10 a month for connectivity, right? That didn't mean that all those used – that they all used the radio service, right? In fact, obviously there's a large percentage that didn't. So we couldn't be more proud and more excited by the fact that 1.3 million have converted. We don't break down the exact numbers now. We're well over 1.5 million total subscribers, and our art pools are increasing from $3 right now to a little over $5. And we see opportunities for those to increase, including with our new B2B partnerships to increase to closer to $7. And as you see Spotify and see it raising rates substantially, right, that we're still at the early stages of these additional raises in prices. And we're so far below the market. We are at a very comfortable level that we are still the cheapest by far in the industry, averaging $5. And even at close to $7, we'll still be in the lowest end of the range.

Rob, just to clarify, the $5 art pool, that's a blended art pool of people who are paying to subscribe as well as advertising revenue from the

base? No, no, no, that's that's the pain subscribers, right? Advertising, you're only going to you only just starting, right? This is the baby step. So we partner with Dax, the biggest programmatic advertiser, right? We've just started to launch that advertising. And if you're on our service, you'll notice, right, you're going to get a staggering amount of ads, right? It was zero 30 days ago. So all of a sudden, those ads are going to kick in. But that's only going to be 50, 60 cents in that range, right? You're not going to make up for that three dollars. What you're going to get is you're going to get the opportunity now by putting in that advertising, right? You're going to get the opportunity of now understand that customer better using AI to drive them and convert them using your host to convert them, right? And really reaching out to them on a regular basis. And then candidly, you know, as Spotify likes to describe it, a lot of people don't want to hear ads. There are going to be some people that drop off the platform. There's going to be some people that convert. What we're watching is a conversion rate that is above five dollars.

I better make sure I can renew my subscriptions, though I don't hear all those ads on the on the reality series. A number of questions there on visibility. It sounds like it's early going. So you probably don't have these. But, you know, everybody remembers the huge success of social gloves. Do you have a formal name for it, a host location? Do you know your distribution will be on cable -per-view? When might we see that? Is it going to be expensive to produce? And then I would assume you're going to monetize it as well as distribution rights through partnership sales. You want to have key name sponsors there. So a lot of questions on that. What visibility can give us on that reality?

Yeah. So you're going to read a lot about it very shortly. It's coming. Guy, this is not the early stages. It's actually moving fast. And if you remember in social gloves, right, in social gloves, we were able to get two million dollars from Hard Rock Stadium. We're able to get three million dollars in NFP money. Right. As you know, crypto is just on fire right now. Right. I just brought in my dear friend, Andy Vick, who produced that show, who helped bring in that money alongside of Jackie Stone, our head of marketing at the time. Right. We couldn't do any of these things. Right. For multiple reasons. One was COVID. But then we just weren't capitalized properly. Right. To be in the position to really do this. That show sold three million dollars of NFPs and had 160 million followers. This already has 230 million. And from what I understand from the producers of this show that are partnering with us, they expect the numbers to be over 400 million on social media. So there could be a -per-view component to it. It can be a distributor like we did with social clubs. It could be a VR element to it. And there's certainly going to be a very sizable NFP element to it. And then you're going to have music on top of it, which we have not announced the artist. So this is going to read and smell exactly like social bugs, except I don't have the risk of someone getting hurt like boxing. I don't have the risk of the commission having to approve it. Right. And in this case, the social media has come to us. The talent has come to us to do this. So the excitement and energy around this is really unique. And yeah, we couldn't be more excited about it. It won't be the only one. We have multiple other events like this, small, medium and large. And this will put us back very much in the forefront of that wide, advanced music pop culture crossover that made this company in the beginning before COVID. So we're really excited to be back in that business and excited. And obviously you get the most important win at the end of it. And you get the one time win where in social as we did twenty seven million that night and four and a half million of EBITDA. But the bigger win is you get all of these, you know, you get millions to tens of millions of people coming through, right? Who you're collecting data on who eventually become your subscribers and your partners.

The flywheel, I think you like to call it. Those are

my questions.

Thank you.

Great. Thanks, Barry, as always. And it called me. Let's make sure we set up a follow up call.

Our next question today comes from John Hickman at Ladinburg.

Mr. Hickman, your line is open. Hi, Rob. Can you hear me? Hey, John. How are you, pal? Fine. Could you elaborate a little bit on how this new Fortune 500 B2B deal my work with the 30 million subs? Do they do the subs have to like opt in to the Flacker service?

What? How do you get paid here? Yeah, so I can't answer too many questions yet. We will be able to very shortly. I'll then tell you, as I said, way over 30 million paying members. All right. And having over 30 million paying members, right, whether it's a carrier or a car company, this is a staggering number compared to Tesla. Right. And this will be a white label solution where they're actually branding it and aggressively marketing to those members as a product of their own. Right. We'll be in the backgrounds of it and we'll be powering it like Intel inside. Right. But this will be them going out and reaching and using all of the things we built over the 20 years and the 200 million dollars that we spent building Slack Radio and building podcast one and building the infrastructure and the live events and so on. They'll be using every muscle in that to be delivering what they believe is a fantastic service, a discount to their members.

But their members have to opt in.

Of course. Okay, of course. And opting in may be as simple as pressing a button. Okay. Right. So if you think about if you think about Disney and Verizon, right, when Disney launched, they got to 100 million subscribers in no time. How did they get there? Verizon gave it to all of anyone that wants to that, you know, that re-upped their service or bought a new phone. They immediately, right, got Disney service for free. And they subsidized it.

Okay. Okay. So this 50 million dollars of B2B revenues is over what time period is that?

Over a 12 month period.

Beginning like now?

Correct. Okay.

Some

of that started a little earlier, right? You know, as you're building it up, right? It's a slow build up. But, you know, you'll start to see that really click. You start to see that really click in the third and fourth quarter. Really the end of the third quarter, beginning of the fourth quarter starts kicking in a much heavier way.

Okay. And then right at the end of your prepared remarks, did you say something about the sale of a subsidiary?

What I said was is that, you know, based on the inbound calls that have come in, right? And you and I have talked about this. I've been traveling around the world. And as you know, my background historically is signing partnerships globally, right? We've never had that ability before. But in that, right, there are many people that are missing, you know, any piece of our services. Right. So there are multiple inbound calls. And as you hear the likes of Netflix going into audio and Spotify going to video, everybody is infringing on each other's businesses. And you just saw, you know, Dapsher sell for 210 million. They were doing 40 million in revenues, right? Right. You saw Tidal sell a few years ago for 400 million. Neither one of them were anywhere near profitability. We're losing, you know, fortunes of money. Right. It's really hard to rebuild the DSP. Tesla tried to do it, right? Tesla tried to try to literally behind our back years ago, build their own music service. It's really hard to do. So we have had a staggering amount of inbound phone calls. We need to be vigilant. We need to be protective of our shareholders, right? And make sure that if a sale of a division happened or a merger happened or a investor came in, strategic investor came in, there's so many parties in this space right now that must have a music platform. Right. Facebook's missing one. Microsoft's missing one. Walmart just bought Vizio. They're missing one. Costco's missing one. Target's missing one. Every single carrier is missing one. Every single streaming network is missing one. Right. Do you think that Disney, HBO and so on can have an audio version of the platform? They're already, everyone's already talking about how podcasting is literally moving mountains and how much video is now being sold and the amount of revenues coming from video.

Okay. So one last question. So you raised the $10 million to buy Bitcoin. Have you actually purchased it?

Yeah. So we'll be talking about that literally in the next 72 hours. So we've done is we've done a Bitcoin treasury strategy, right? Which the partner that we hired to manage that has been delivering between 12 and 15% returns for the last five years. So it's actually a managed account that is actually a protected, protects you on the downside. Right. And is yielding cash flow, which as you know, we have a hundred and ten million dollar NOL. If they can generate on $10 million call it. If they can generate a million dollars for it, that million dollars of cash flow comes straight through and can be used to either buy additional Bitcoin treasury or to buy other things. The other part that it does for us is again is it positions the company very strongly back into the NFT token market. Right. Positions us because we have so much content. It really puts us in a very unique position that, as you know, we we took in three million dollars in NFT money and over five million total. And after the money off our content, the first round of this, the numbers are going to be staggeringly higher the next time. And that was really cost to us.

Let me ask the question in a different way. In Q3, when we look at your balance sheet, will there be 10 million dollars

of Bitcoin on the balance sheet? I mean, you'll see when we when we publicly announce our next just moved, you'll see what we're doing. Right. I can't answer you what has what has happened until we publicly release that.

OK.

And you said that would be within 72 hours.

Coming any minute now. Yeah, just for me, we've we've been in the process of setting up our accounts, right, with a with the coin basis of the world, right, which took a little longer than we thought would take. So as soon as that is completed, which is momentarily, you'll start to see what our position is there and you're going to start to see some of those things across all of Web 3 and where this is going.

OK, thanks.

Bye.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Brian Kenslinger at Alliance Global Partners.

Great, thanks. I have a question. The first you into one of the questions you just responded that you expect 50 million of revenue over the next, say, 12 months or so. Can you give us a sense of what the run rate is today on B2B so we can understand the incremental contribution? Yeah, we

think we can't give any further guidance than we probably have. We have not put out guidance yet on LiveOne, right? That may not be looking backwards.

No, sir, I'm looking backwards. What is the what is the new trailing B2B revenue?

Yeah, so so the breakdown of it, you know, very small amounts of that today is is kicking in. It's just beginning.

OK,

you're going to have a lot and a lot more of that revenue, as I said, a lot more that revenues end of third quarter and really in the fourth quarter.

OK, and then can you articulate your digital currency strategy? There are those that are raising capital as quickly as they can when they trade at a premium and now they call it to buy digital currency rapidly, mimicking micro strategy. And then there's others that are just wanting exposure on their balance sheet. So they're raising a little bit of money opportunistically so they have that digital currency exposure. Where were you lying in that?

Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, the movie hasn't been written yet, right? You know, this is we wrote the script. We got ourselves in here because we've been a thought leader in technology, right? And my team has been thought leaders in technology for 40 years, right? We always want to be at the forefront of where technology is going and we're huge believers directly where this is going. But we also want a protected position, which is why we did this Bitcoin yield where you have an option strategy against you protecting against the downside, because it is a very volatile market. Right. But we absolutely have deep plans for and approval by our board for substantially more money to come in. Right. And that could come in from a sale of a subsidiary that could come in if the stock performs like a chip. Right. And, you know, it's trading at fair market value. It could come in. Right. In the interim right now, we're very focused on what we've accomplished so far. And I think you'll see some of that strategy starting to materialize both the acquisition of Bitcoin yield as well as as our NFT and token strategy starting to kick in, which will drive both revenues as well as having a balance sheet that has ownership. And we believe strongly will be will go way higher over the next couple of years. Right.

And then you just recently began aggressively working focusing on conversion from ad supported to pay subscribers for Tesla. So I'm sure it's too soon to evaluate execution. But and you've been clear it's not going to happen overnight. But how long do you think it will take before conversion has an impactful will have a major impact, sorry, on the results?

You know, again, it's such a tricky question. Right. You know, as you look at, you know, Spotify and they said the reasons they have their free service. Right. And I could tell you I keep both because I just want to see how it sounds. And I can tell you, honestly, you know, for me, listening to ads all day long is difficult. Right. So for me, I would convert immediately. Right. But you're going to lose you're going to lose some people that just walk away because of it. You're going to you're going to gain some people that you're going to gain revenues from those advertising. And then you're going to convert a percentage of them. And again, I think our aspirations are the same over a 12 month to 24 month period to convert somewhere between between 20 and 30 percent of those subscribers.

Got it. Now, you talked about the my last question is you talked about the B2B partnership with the 30 million paid subscribers. But in the press release, you talked about the Fortune 250 streaming network. And maybe this is something you've talked about in the past. So maybe I'm just confused. So I apologize. Can you provide any detail around that as well? Like you have for the for the hundred billion dollar company?

Not yet. We will be able to very shortly. So I can tell you is that there's been a soft launch, right, which has gone exceptionally well. There'll be a larger launch shortly. It has leaked out there from the management of the company. So there are some things if you search around, you may be able to find it. We want to be good partners. We want to be spectacular partners. Right. Makes me and because there are more of these deals that are now inches away. You know, some just some like, you know, I'm a big I'm a big basketball guy. When you go on a hot streak, we just feel like that streak's coming. Right. And obviously, this has been, you know, this is a tough long sales process. You're talking about massive companies. We truly believe that we will have another car company and another carrier company and a retailer this year. All three of them over the 12 month period. And we're behind. So we have to accept that we have accepted these took longer than we expected. Some of that obviously is, you know, there was some skepticism about our balance sheet. There was some skepticism about our cash position. Right. Now that we've cleaned those things up, I think all that has gone away is now about what can we do with this business now and how big can we grow it? And can we recover from the loss of Tesla? Right. Yeah. When COVID hit, as you know, we lost 50 percent of our revenues. We are not only recovered, we grew from 38 million and we grew 200 million. Right. We've now taken a second missile that we have to recover from. Right. And I give my team so much credit. Nobody's backed off. Nobody stopped. Everybody's focused. People working around the clock and they're literally the excitement and energy. I haven't seen this much excitement and energy since I bought Slack Radio going back. Since I bought podcast one. Right. We've gone through some great times. We've had some great stock runs. We've got some really difficult times. This has been a difficult time on both sides, both the stock as well as the business. And I could tell you that, you know, there's more optionality in this company than any company I've ever been involved with before. I got to fight through. I got to battle through. But at least now I got plenty of cash. I got plenty of balance sheet. And I've got amazing assets here that if I can keep fighting to survive, right, we're going to come out of this stronger than ever. And, you know, over the next couple of years, this will be this will be, you know, I think I think it'll be my biggest company I've ever built. And it's the best team I've ever had. So I just got to keep them focused, keep them energized. Right. And and keep battling with

it. Right. Last question actually followed. If some of these are white labeled, will you ever be able to announce who they are? Because we won't see it right as a live one button or a slacker button. Or are there some you won't be able to do?

You actually will. You actually will see it. Not only will you see it, you'll actually see powered by it. It'll be very much like Intel inside. You'll see powered by live one. Right. These are of course audio, video. This isn't necessarily just audio. This is massive opportunities. As you know, streaming network is more video. Right. So our video content is now coming into fruition. As you see, podcasting as well as all of our live stuff. Right. We have thousands of hours in the biggest music events in the world that can all be revived and brought back. And now you're watching that video being so important, especially for AI models. Right. So, you know, one of our holdings and you represent, you know, they're making a lot of money off of Google just wanting their content because they can't get the A plus. They can't get to Disney and Warner. So they have to use content to build those AI models. We have a lot of content that could be monetized right now. I've always talked about this flywheel. Right. I just watched one of my dear friends literally make tens of millions of dollars utilizing his video content and effectively do it to a podcast that he was doing for 15 years. And literally he's getting paid by Google just to use that for their AI models to build those because they don't have enough content to do it on to prove their models and crew out. So I see a lot of opportunities there for us to really utilize that flywheel that we've been talking about for years. And as you know, video YouTube just came out and said, you know, their numbers, you know, YouTube podcast are just going through the roof. It's going to be billions of dollars. Right. It's going to dwarf the other numbers in the next five years. So I've seen tremendous opportunity for us to monetize all this rich media. And as you know, with music, it's very inexpensive to have made this content. This content has enormous value because you have the biggest stars in the world.

OK,

thanks so much. And a reminder to our phone audience that is star and one if you'd like to ask a question. We'll hear from the line of Sean McGowan at Roth Capital Partners.

Thank you. Hi, Rob. I'm Mark. Question about the ARPU figure. Is that just want to clarify, is that actually what you're getting now or is that a goal like for the near term? Are you actually getting an average of five dollars per paying user?

That's what we're getting. OK,

thanks. That's what I figured. And to clarify also, when you become a paying subscriber, you then don't have any ads.

Correct.

OK. On those shows that you mentioned, you know, Barnum, Vigilante, Opportunist that are in production now for other screens. Where does that revenue go? Is that is that within a podcast or is that somewhere else? When you when you start booking that revenue, want to know where we're going to see it?

Well, that's that's going to be more on the podcast side on those three shows. But that doesn't mean that some of the other content doesn't cross over. Right. Monetizing of television film, right, could be anything from documentaries. You know, we shot six years of Rock and Rio, right. Having full content, some of the greatest content in the world. There could be multiple revenue streams to come out of it. And then the NFP side of it, right. And the tokenization side of it could be coming, coming more on the live one side, probably than the podcast side in the beginning. But on those three specific television shows, right, which are true crime, those three shows have been sold to major networks. Those shows are, you know, they're close. Right. I can't tell you that fully green yet, but if one of them gets greenlit, you know, that was the upfront money. Right. The million dollars was upfront money. Now that that money going forward is you get paid per episode. Right. You get paid back end on it. And we have no additional costs, not a single dollar of additional costs.

Right. Makes sense. I just wanted to know where we would be looking for that revenue going forward, you know, when it starts to come in, assuming that they get greenlit. You mentioned a total of 20 potential shows on the platform. Any sense of when there could be some realization on that? Are we talking about a couple of years from now or a couple of quarters from now, a couple of weeks from now?

I mean, we're you know, you sit you sit waiting by the phone in these things. Right. And obviously you've just watched the transformation. Right. Warner Warner just changed the whole team. Paramount just got taken over. Right. You know, management teams are moving left and right. So you got to get you got to get, you know, you got to get in this crosshairs of getting signed with the beautiful part of this is we're right now in the trenches of could be greenlit next week. It could be three months or it could be six months. But they're in the trenches. They're in they're in production today, meaning they're paying millions of dollars to writers, producers, right. To build towards making a show. That doesn't mean they'll greenlight. Right. You still got to get that final green light. Right. Because it's only X amount of shows greenlit a year. But having three of them there, I'd be shocked if at least one of them wasn't greenlit and Barnum Towns, one of my favorite podcasts ever made. That'd be a top of my list. Vigilante has multiple seasons that can get picked up. It's not even just just one. It's, you know, multiple seasons have an opportunity of being picked up as different shows and opportunities. It could be a could be multiple seasons, but it also has elements of documentaries and so on, which doesn't make you as much money. But there's still very nice money for it. Yeah. As I said, John, this is just it's just pure cash flow. Right. We just collect the check. You know, when I produced the movie 300, that production money, I still get I still got checks on it. Twenty one years later. Right. I just got a check for Spider-Way Chronicles. Yeah, that money just keeps flowing through and every time it goes back in the system. Now, obviously, it's not nearly as big as you used to be, but it's money it gets paid to you for the rest of your life.

OK, so every day there's something that reminds me that I'm getting older. And the idea that 300 was 21 years ago is the thing that's going to make me feel old. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I feel

old with you.

The a little bit more color on that reality show. Can you tell us like what kind of show are we talking about? Is it a physical athletic competition show like, you know,

yes, like the Olympics, like the Olympics. There'll be a long jump. They'll be on the beauty of this. No one's getting hurt. Right. No one's getting injured. Right. And the faces right aren't just there for a couple of minutes of a fight. Right. They're there for hours at a time. And they're collaborating over a full weekend of this. And you'll read about it shortly. It'll be done in Los Angeles. It'll be done at a major stadium. Right. I'll be done with some of the best people in the industry. And you're going to see reality names of some of the biggest stars, stars, you know,

the network brought back from the 70s. Right. That kind of thing.

Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Literally to a T. You hit it right in the nose.

Got it. See, it pays to be old sometimes. And where would that revenue be?

That revenue is just live one.

OK. A couple of other questions. When will the Q be out?

We'll track the file tomorrow. You should see it tomorrow.

OK. Figure that. OK. And just to clarify, Rob, when you were talking about the 50 million in revenue over the next 12 months, you said more three Q and four Q. I assume you meant fiscal three Q and four Q.

Yeah.

OK. All right. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

And Mr. Carhartt, Mr. Ellen, I will turn the call back to you for any additional or closing remarks that you have.

Yes, I want to thank everyone for taking the time and taking the call and just reiterate that the company has just brought back another 300000 plus shares. We also brought back a lot of podcast one shares. We still have five and a half million dollars remaining on our buyback. All right. We will be prudent and smart about we use that capital. And as I take you on this, I truly believe this is the most exciting time for the company in many years where we have tremendous amount of optionality, a tremendous amount of upside in these partnerships, Amazon partnership streaming Fortune 250 company S&P 100 company. Right. We really 500 company. We really put ourselves in a position where that B2B business, right, which is what I built my entire career on, really feels like it's building that momentum. The flywheel is building and revenue is coming from different places. We got a lot to make up with Tesla. All right. That doesn't happen easily. But this team will come through as they always do. And we'll prove ourselves shortly. And I just want to I just want to again just tell you how proud I am, my team, of not only surviving this, but coming out of it and coming out of it strong again. And this should be a really exciting next six months for this company.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference, and we do thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.