Manhattan Associates, Inc.

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

10/26/2021

spk01: Good afternoon. My name is Leah, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Manhattan Associates Third Quarter 2021 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this call is being recorded today, October 27th. I would now like to introduce Mr. Michael Bauer, Head of Investor Relations of Manhattan Associates. Mr. Bauer, sir, you may begin your conference.
spk00: Thank you, Leah, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Manhattan Associates 2021 Third Quarter Earnings Call. I will review our cautionary language and then turn the call over to Eddie Capel, our CEO. During this call, including the question and answer session, we may make forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of Manhattan Associates. We will caution that these forward-looking statements involve risk and uncertainties, are not guarantees of future performance, and that actual results may differ materially from projections contained in our forward-looking statements. I refer you to the reports Manhattan Associates filed with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our projections, particularly our annual report on Form 10-K for fiscal year 2020 and the risk factor discussion in that report, as well as any risk factor updates we provide in our subsequent Form 10-Qs. We note in particular that uncertainty regarding the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on our performance could cause actual results to differ materially from our projections. We are under no obligation to update these statements. In addition, our comments include certain non-GAAP financial measures in an effort to provide additional information to investors. We have reconciled all non-GAAP measures to the related GAAP measures in accordance with SEC rules. You'll find reconciliation schedules in the Form 8K we submitted to the SEC earlier today and on our website at manh.com. Now, I'll turn the call over to Eddie. Thanks, Mike.
spk02: Well, good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for joining us as we review our third quarter results. discuss our updated full-year 2021 outlook, and provide some very preliminary color on 2022 and beyond. Q3 and year-to-date results were an all-time record for Manhattan Associates. Total revenue increased 13% to $169 million, and adjusted earnings per diluted share of 71 cents increased 39%. Both of these metrics exceeded their expectations. Strong cloud and services demand continues to drive revenue outperformance, fueling double-digit top-line growth and strong earnings leverage. Above all, our investments in innovation are paying off. Product differentiation between Manhattan and other supply chain software vendors continues to increase. And moreover, our global teams are performing exceptionally well with a laser focus on customer success. We delivered record third quarter bookings with RPO increasing 123% year over year and 17% sequentially to $574 million, providing us with excellent future revenue visibility. Additionally, 40% of our Q3 contracted bookings were generated from net new customers. And our pipeline continues to be robust with solid demand across our product suites. Over 90% of the pipeline consists of cloud opportunities, with net new potential customers representing about 35% of that demand. And with strong business momentum and increased visibility, we're providing refreshed guideposts for RPO and cloud revenue through 2024. Dentists will provide more color later in the call, but this includes moving up our milestone of reaching $1 billion in RPO to 2022 from our original target of 2023. On the sales front, competitive win rates remain strong at about 75% as our innovation is recognized as industry-leading. From a vertical perspective, Retail, manufacturing, and wholesale drove more than 80% of our bookings for the quarter, but drilling into the sub-verticals, they're pretty diverse, including apparel, department stores, grocery, food and beverage, industrial, health services, as well as durable and non-durable goods. Our global services team continues to execute amazingly well, conducting over 100 go-lives in Q3. And for the quarter, services revenue was up 20% compared with the prior year period. As we mentioned in our Q2 call, the market is extremely competitive for services and technical talent. And while we're well positioned for significant growth, we do expect demand for talent to continue to be strong. With new and existing customers wanting to accomplish more with our solutions and at a faster pace, We're very mindful of the workload that we put on our teams, and we're focused on attracting and retaining talent, which we continue to factor into our operational planning and guidance. On the innovation front, with our R&D spend approaching $90 million annually, we're focused on providing modern cloud-native applications that are architected to unify commerce and supply chain experiences. Manhattan is on the leading edge of removing numerous unnatural silos or artificial boundaries that really don't align with business workflows. Our technology is differentiating and industry-leading. And the Manhattan active SaaS solutions are scalable, versionless, and extensible. And this enables our customers to quickly adapt to market changes. They can improve efficiency and leverage their data in more robust ways, including solving challenges that legacy and silo systems simply cannot. And we believe that we're still very early in that cloud journey, but we couldn't be more pleased with the market's enthusiastic response to our Manhattan active solutions. So let's spend just a few minutes on specific updates on products and customers. We're actually off to a great start with Manhattan Active Transportation Management, the industry's fastest and smartest multimodal transportation optimization engine. Manhattan Active TM is the industry's first self-configuring and self-tuning system. Built on our industry-leading Manhattan application architecture, Manhattan Active TM is joined with Manhattan Active Warehouse Management to perform Manhattan Active Supply Chain, the industry's first unified cloud-native supply chain execution platform. And since launch, we've been heartened by the accolades we've received from Manhattan Active Transportation Management, from analysts, partners, and customers, to perhaps most encouragingly, several of our Manhattan Active Transportation Management customers are also deploying Manhattan Active WM. In other words, our supply chain unification message and strategy is really resonating with these joint solution customers, realizing the clear benefits of unifying distribution, transportation, labor, and automation within a single application. Manhattan Active WM, the other half of Manhattan Active Supply Chain, continues to experience pretty explosive growth. Consistent with prior quarters, we're seeing a very nice balance between net new customers and existing Manhattan WMS customers choosing to migrate to our next generation of WM platform. In just 16 short months, Manhattan Active WM is live or in the process of being implemented in 11 countries across 16 different industries. A pretty good testament to its cross-vertical and international applicability. A small sampling of either live or currently implementing Manhattan Active WM customers include a luxury retail department store, a national beverage distributor, a tier zero national grocer outside of the U.S., and several industrial distributors across the globe. Our competitive win rate with WMS has always been pretty high, and Manhattan Active WM has helped us raise that already high bar. Turning now to our omni-channel applications, We continue to make strides with our Manhattan Active Point of Sale application. This past quarter, a global apparel and football brand activated our Manhattan Active Point of Sale application in two new flagship stores in New York and Las Vegas. This particular customer also runs Manhattan Active Order Management. and they saw a clear advantage of deploying a unified omni-channel operating platform across their digital and bricks and mortar operations. And from a geographical point of view, their plans call for deploying Manhattan Active Point of Sale and order management across the Americas, Asia Pacific, and Europe. And we believe that Manhattan Active Omni is unique in its ability to provide full-featured order management, contact center, and store systems as part of a unified platform across the globe. And to close that, our product and customer updates this quarter, I'm happy to report that a couple of weeks ago, we were able to host several small customer events in person for the first time in quite some time. And we were pleased to host customers in the UK, in the Netherlands, and finally in France for some pretty intimate events to discuss their commerce and supply chain strategies and how Manhattan Active Solutions can help them progress their digital transformations. I got to tell you, it was such a pleasure to connect in person with a group of strategic customers after such a long break. Well, that concludes my brief business update. Dennis is going to provide you with an update on our financial performance and outlook, and then I'll close our prepared remarks with a brief summary before we move to Q&A. So, Dennis?
spk03: Thanks, Eddie. Nothing but accolades for our Manhattan global teams. Top to bottom, we continue to raise the bar in a choppy macro delivering strong growth, profitability, cash flow, and balance sheet metrics. I'll start with a quick recap of the quarter with growth rates on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise stated. Total revenue was a record $169 million, up 13%. Excluding license and maintenance revenue, which removes the compression driven by our cloud transition, our total revenue was up 27%. Notably, 70% of our total revenue is now driven by cloud and services. Our Q3 operating profit was a record, totaling $53 million, up 20%, with adjusted operating margin of 31.3%. and gap operating margin of 25.1%. Our performance was driven by strong cloud and services revenue combined with lower expenses driven by the COVID pandemic. Compared to 2019, we estimate COVID lowered our year-to-date 2021 expenses by about 425 basis points and year-to-date 2020 by about 325 basis points, respectively. Adjusting for COVID, or put another way, assuming these expenses remain unchanged from 2019 levels, adjusted operating margin would be approximately 24% year-to-date, up over 200 basis points compared to year-to-date 2020. Earnings per share was a record 71 cents, up 39%. Our earnings per share did include 6 cents, of non-recurring tax benefit associated with expiring tax statutes. So normalized EPS was 65 cents, up 27%, either way a record. Our Q3 and year-to-date operating cash flow performance was a record with Q3 totaling $60 million and year-to-date $145 million, both up 41%. on record global cash collections. How about our free cash flow margin? It continues to be strong at 35% for the quarter and 29% year to date. EBITDA margin was 32% in the quarter and 29% year to date. Our balance sheet continues to be rock solid with $246 million in cash and zero debt. providing us excellent flexibility to invest for growth. We invested $20 million in share buybacks in the quarter, resulting in $80 million in buybacks year to date. And for the fourth quarter and full year, we estimate our diluted shares outstanding to be about 64.3 million shares, which assumes no buyback activity. Also, Our board has approved our customary $50 million share repurchase authority. That covers the macros. Now let's drill down a little bit into revenue. Cloud revenue in the quarter totaled $32 million, up 53%. As our new annual contract value continues to accelerate on strong market demand. For Q4, we expect cloud revenue of roughly $33.5 million. As Eddie mentioned, Q3 was a record third quarter with RPO, Remaining Performance Obligation. Our RPO bookings totaled $574 million, up 123% year-over-year and 17% sequentially. With RPO continuing to compound positively, our visibility into future subscription revenue continues to strengthen, giving us confidence in our forward visibility and guidepost projections. Services revenue was $88 million, up 20%, as our cloud momentum continues to fuel our services revenue growth. Americas and Europe are running at double-digit growth, with APAC demand improving. For Q4 retail peak season, it's starting earlier than normal, given supply chain constraints. We are forecasting services revenue to be about $82 million, with year-over-year growth of 16%. As a reminder to most of you, the sequential revenue decline from Q3 represents our traditional retail peak seasonality as customers slow implementations to meet their customers' demand. Our consolidated subscription, maintenance, and services margin for the quarter was 56.8%, up over 380 basis points compared to the year-ago period, and was predominantly driven by revenue performance and cloud operating leverage. Accounting for retail peak season and growth investments, we expect Q4 margin to be about 50.2%, resulting in full year 2021 margin of 53.5%, up 190 basis points over the prior year. License revenue was $8 million, down 36%. and maintenance revenue was $34 million, down 8%, primarily on cash collection timing. And one final revenue call-out, our hardware team is in the double-digit growth game, up 25% year-to-date. Good job, guys. Transitioning to guidance. Barring any major global macro setbacks, our full-year 2021 guidance and preliminary 2022 outlook puts us on track to deliver consecutive record revenue years. Our overarching objective obviously is to deliver sustainable double digit top line growth and top quartile operating margins benchmarked annually against enterprise SAS comps. For 2021, we are raising our total revenue guidance to $653 million to $655 million. up from our prior range of 643 million to 650 million. Our underlying total 2021 revenue growth, X license and maintenance, which removes the revenue compression from our cloud transition, is targeted to be 19% at the midpoint. For Q4, we expect total revenue of 161 million to 163 million. Full-year operating margin is expected to be 25.8% to 26%, factoring in retail peak season revenue impact and including $10 million in special performance-based compensation and retention investments. We expect full-year adjusted earnings per share to be $2.12 to $2.14, up from our prior range of $2 to $2.06. For GAAP EPS, our guidance ranges $1.61 to $1.63, with a midpoint of $1.62, up 6% from our previous midpoint of $1.53. And for Q4, we expect adjusted EPS to be in the range of $0.37 to $0.39. For full year 2021, our cloud revenue estimate is increasing to $121 million, representing 51% growth. Given our strong performance in Q3 and year-to-date, we are also increasing our RPO outlook to a range of $675 to $700 million, up from our prior outlook range of $550 million to $600 million. The $688 million midpoint is up over 75%, from our initial RPO target provided on our Q3 2020 earnings call. For full year 2021, license and maintenance revenue continues to positively attrit on increasing demand for our cloud solutions. We expect license to be about $33 million and maintenance roughly $143 million. For Q4, we expect license to be about $7.5 million and maintenance roughly $35 million. Our CapEx estimate for 2021 is $3 to $4 million. And for full year 2021, we expect an adjusted tax rate of about 19.5% and a gap tax rate of approximately 17.5%. So that covers the quarter and our 2021 outlook. Let's cover some 2022 preliminary targets and guideposts. We are in our budget cycle currently, so we will firm up our parameters on our Q4 call. Please note, though, to facilitate a review for you all, we have added a supplemental schedule, item number nine, last page, in today's earnings release, providing a comparison of our original guidepost metrics and our current updated guideposts. As the schedule shows, we are moving all our guideposts for cloud revenue and RPO materially higher. In addition, our adjusted operating margins are improved from our initial color provided in February. Please note, Year-over-year growth rates are based on the midpoint of our 2021 guidance. Our preliminary estimate of 2022 total revenue is $695 million to $715 million, excluding license and maintenance attrition at 16% growth. All in, our initial growth target is 8%. Our full year 2022 adjusted EPS range is $1.90 to $2.10. For 2022 cloud revenue, we are targeting $160 million to $165 million in revenue, representing 35% growth at the midpoint. Exiting 2021, including ramp transactions, we expect to achieve a three-year growth 2022 to 2024 compounded annual growth rate of 40% at the midpoint of our cloud revenue targets. For RPO, we are targeting a three-year CAGR of 35% at the midpoint of our targets of $1 billion in 2022, growing to $1.7 billion in 2024. Those are big numbers. In 2022, we are also targeting services revenue of $362 million to $370 million, which represents 9% growth. License revenue of $13 million to $15 million, and maintenance revenue of $137 million to $140 million, as we continue to expect a longer attrition tail for maintenance. Our consolidated subscription maintenance and services margin is expected to be about 54%. And we are pegging 2022 operating margins at 22.5% to 24% and are targeting an annual 75 to 125 basis point expansion annually starting in 2023. The factors impacting the inherent leverage in our model and driving the 2022 year-over decline in operating margin include license attrition of 57% to $14 million, with maintenance revenue attrition at 4% as customers shift to cloud, totaling about 200 basis points of margin impact. Wage inflation and labor market trends accounting for about 200 basis points in margin investment As we previously discussed, demand for technical talent is high, and we expect the labor market to continue to be very competitive through 2022. Continued investment across our company, fueled by customer demand, we are investing in R&D, services, and sales and marketing. And the continued return of COVID impact expenses, such as travel, Our annual momentum customer conference, employee appreciation events, contractors, et cetera, total about 100 basis points. We also expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 22%, and our diluted share count will be approximately 64.3 million shares, which assumes no buyback activity. So lastly, I'll summarize our 2023 and 2024 guideposts. that should better assist investors' assessment of our future cloud growth and earnings trajectory. Remember, comparison of our guideposts versus historicals are located in our earnings release. For 2023, we are targeting RPO of 1.25 billion to 1.4 billion, representing 33 percent growth at the midpoint. cloud revenue of $220 million to $240 million, representing 42% growth at the midpoint. And introducing 2024, for RPO, we are targeting $1.6 to $1.8 billion, representing 28% growth at the midpoint. Cloud revenue, We're targeting $310 million to $345 million, representing 42% growth at the midpoint. So that covers the financial update. Thank you very much, and back to Eddie for some closing remarks.
spk02: Good report, Dennis. Thank you. We're very pleased with our strong third quarter and year-to-date results. And while we continue to operate in a pretty turbulent global macro environment, Business momentum is very positive, and of course, we're very encouraged by our accelerating RPO and associated revenue growth. As we look forward, we're confident in our ability to deliver success for our customers and help them drive their digital transformation. As a result, we anticipate long-term, sustainable, and profitable growth for Manhattan Associates. And with that, Leah, we'd be happy to take any questions.
spk01: All right, as a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, that's star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And your first question comes from the line of Terry Tillman from TruViz Securities. Please go ahead.
spk06: Yeah, thanks for taking my questions, and congrats. Exceptional results. I guess maybe, and hi, Eddie, Dennis, and Mike. Sorry, I should have said that to begin with. Maybe, Eddie, I'll ask you a question. Congrats on the hiring of a new CMO. I'm curious, I know it's probably still early days, but what kind of impact do you see her in terms of having on the branding, marketing, and just continuing to evolve go-to-market activities?
spk02: Yeah, yeah, it's early, Terry, but without putting too much pressure on Ann, we're obviously very pleased to have her on board and at the end of the day, we think, uh, frankly, as well as we've done, we've still got some of the industry's best kept secrets and, uh, we're anxious to be able to, uh, get that message out. So, uh, you know, I think we, uh, we have the opportunity to, uh, share our stories with, uh, with a broader community, drive awareness, particularly for, uh, our newer products and, uh, and just overall, frankly, get the message out that, uh, We're here to do business and help our customers in the industry with digital transformation.
spk06: I understood. Well, maybe some healthy pressure is good, though, for Ann. So maybe there's somewhere in the middle there. But, okay, that's great. It was great to see the 40% contracted bookings from new logos. So this kind of, like, closes the loop because you had been building the pipeline in terms of new logo activity had been picking up. So now you see the conversion going on. What I'm curious about is, Is it something with certain of the active cloud products that is getting you into parts of the retail or the commerce-oriented markets that you haven't been before, whether it's D2C or other types of kind of micro-segments? I'm just kind of curious because it is a striking number. Any more color you can provide there?
spk02: Yeah, I don't think there's any specific, you know, micro-verticals or sub-verticals, Terry, but I do think that, you know, there has been – a little bit of pent-up demand with the industry waiting for the real next generation of cloud-native or next generation of solutions to emerge, those in this case being cloud-native, very innovative, access to new innovation on a regular basis. So we're definitely seeing some uptick out there from customers that we haven't done business with before. We're Fortunately, seeing some nice takeaways from some of the older competitors that are out there. But it's quite broad and not focused on any given industry.
spk06: Got it. And just my final question, and I appreciate Dennis and Mike, the figures there at the end. That helps us a lot in terms of the guideposts. But I had a question actually on cash flow, Dennis. The cash flow was strong in the quarter, a lot stronger than expected. you know, as you think about 2022, I know you don't usually guide on cash flow, but could we see a similar pattern whereby free cash flow margins are higher than operating margins? Just anything else you can call out on any one-time things or CapEx things into 2022 and just thinking about, you know, free cash flow. Thank you.
spk03: Yeah, no one-time items, great quality of, one, quality of earnings and quality of cash flow. So, I'd expect we're going to post up another record free cash flow year next year, this upcoming year. And yes, definitely the potential to surpass EBITDA margin and as well as potentially operating margin.
spk06: Got it. Thanks. Congrats.
spk03: Thank you, Terry.
spk01: Once again, we have a question on cue from Joe with Baird. Please go ahead, sir. Your line is open.
spk08: Great. Can you hear me okay?
spk02: We can, Joe. Apologies to everybody for the short break there. There appeared to be a little technical challenge with the call service. But please fire away. Fire away, Joe.
spk08: Okay. Great. I'm wondering, when customers are making a commitment to WMS, are you seeing any changes in interest going along with the WMS in integrating WMS other of your solutions within the same engagement? So are WMS deals carrying over into order management or TMS in a bigger way? And I'm curious if that's the case. Are the deal sizes getting bigger? So I'd imagine RPO, there's a good quantity of activity, but is the size of what you're winning also going up?
spk02: Yeah, great question. Well, you know, just overall, clearly our strategy is to partner with our customers to develop, you know, a digital transformation roadmap. And frankly, whether it starts with transportation, inventory, warehouse management, omni solutions, and so forth, you know, we really don't care where we get started. We certainly are seeing some multi-product implementations. You know, we launched Manhattan Active today. Transportation Management just a few months ago. We've got several customers and half of them are implementing Manhattan Active WM as well. So it's great to see Manhattan Active TM and Manhattan Active WM coming together to provide that unified solution for our customers. But I think across the board, when you look at our order management system customers, our WM customers, and our transportation customers, they are all great prospects for the other solutions for upsell and cross-sell. As we've said historically, across the approximate 20 products that we have in our portfolio, the average number of products that any one customer owns is about 304. So we've got a lot of cross-sell and up-sell potential. As far as your question around larger RPO opportunities for multi-product, yes is the answer to that. Do just bear in mind, though, that when you implement either a WM program, a TM program, an order management program, an inventory program, they're pretty big and customers can only bite off so much at once. So they tend to be, um, a bit more serial than in parallel. Uh, but we certainly are seeing some joint unified programs. That's good color.
spk08: Um, and then Eddie, I think the, the wind rate disclosure you typically made this quarter, it went up relative to what the wind rates have been trending at, uh, I'm just wondering if you can kind of carve out where you're seeing the improvement. And maybe one of the things that was noticeable during the quarter is the geographic breadth of where the announcements are coming from. You know, it's not so much America or Europe. It's global. And, you know, you mentioned your global teams a number of times on the call. So I'm wondering if there's maybe anything new happening in the sales activity that that can help explain kind of the improvements and what you're seeing?
spk02: I think, you know, I think it's the continued investment in innovation that's really driving the win rate, Joe, when it comes right down to it. You know, we will see that bounce around a little bit, but I think when we look at, when we talk to our prospects that have turned into customers about why they chose us and so forth, I mean, it tends to be facilitated because of the innovation that we brought to the market. And certainly, you know, the great experience we've got across our teams and all the other things, the attributes that we bring play a role. But the innovation in our product delivery, I think, is number one. In terms of, you know, seeing improvement in both EMEA and APAC this quarter, there's no question we've seen EMEA and APAC lag just a little bit in terms of, I guess we'll call it the COVID recovery. And we're seeing a good bit more movement and momentum in Europe, number one, and then followed closely behind in APAC. So feel good about bringing a bit of balance back to the performance.
spk03: Yeah, Joe, we are having some nice cross-sell, up-sell deal closures as well, about $60 million of bookings impact in the quarter.
spk08: Oh, okay. Thanks, Dennis. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
spk02: Okay, very good. Thank you, Joe.
spk01: And your next question comes from the line of Brian Peterson from Raymond James. Please go ahead, sir.
spk04: Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on a really strong quarter. So two for me. You know, obviously we're seeing the guideposts get raised. You know, I'm curious, if we had to think about, you know, I guess 9 to 12 months ago, obviously you were outperforming your expectations. If we had to kind of stack order rank what drove that from a product or market perspective, what would you say are the top one or two key drivers?
spk02: I think we have been pleasantly surprised by the uptick of Manhattan Active WM, number one. I think certainly it's early days, but the momentum we're seeing around Manhattan Active Transportation Management And then thirdly, the bounce back of Manhattan Active Omni. You know, we saw some, you know, subdued, shall we say, activity in Manhattan Active Omni, and that's back to picking back up. So that would be the top three, I think, on my roster. Brian?
spk04: Okay. And I'll follow up then on the WMS side, Eddie. So, you know, we're 16 months in to active WM. And obviously, I think we're hearing the win rates are good, the performance, everything sounds really encouraging. But I'm curious, you know, the cloud or referenceability, is that a friction point for some customers? And to the extent that you have customers up and running, does that actually make the next 16 months look like a lot brighter than the first 16 months? I'm just curious to get your thoughts there.
spk02: We hope so. But we've certainly got great implementation activity going on, good referenceability and so forth. I'll tell you that the friction or the resistance to being early or an early adopter or whatever you want to call it hasn't really been there. Now, as you know, we had a beta customer when we launched. We already had a customer live, very successful customer. already been through, you know, a bunch of kind of versionless updates and so forth. So we had a great reference point to, you know, to get us started and didn't see a lot of friction. But, you know, no question, success breeds success. And as we continue to drive across verticals, across geographies, and get more referenceability across all those dimensions, I think, you know, we certainly have the opportunity to continue to see success. Great. Thanks, Eddie. Thank you, Brian.
spk01: And your next question comes from the line of Mark Chappell from Loop Capital. Your line is open.
spk05: Hi, thank you for taking my questions, and good job on the quarter. Congrats on that. Eddie, starting with you, I just want to revisit your prepared remarks around the hiring environment for your professional services team.
spk03: Yeah.
spk05: And I just wonder if you could just give us a sense of where you're at with respect to your hiring plan for this year. Are you on plan for the most part, a little bit behind plan? Can you just give us a little corner?
spk02: Yeah, we're a little bit behind, Mark, where we'd like to be, frankly. It's a tough sledding out there from a talent acquisition perspective, but we've obviously got a great success story here. We've got a fantastic culture in the company. No question that people like to be associated with a successful company that's doing meaningful work. for tier one companies around the globe. So we're doing pretty good on that front. But if I could wave my magic wand, there's no question we'd be a little further ahead with a higher range trajectory than where we are. And obviously that's driven by demand.
spk05: So thank you for that. And with that said, given that demand is tight, and as you said earlier, you expect it to continue to be tight for talent. Is that changing the way that maybe you're approaching R&D as far as prioritizing certain projects? In other words, maybe putting in some features and capabilities in your products that just make them a little bit easier to install and doesn't require as much professional services time?
spk02: Yeah, we're always focused on that, Mark, frankly. We're trying to drive down always the total cost of ownership for our products. You know, we want to be feature rich. We want to be able to provide the greatest innovation to our customers. But by the same token, we've got to continue to focus on total cost of ownership, speed of implementation, cost of support, and so forth. So we've always been focused on that. I'll be honest, I wouldn't say that we've, you know, taken any particularly specific steps to focus on that, you know, in the last six months or so. But we remain focused on driving, you know, driving total cost of ownership brand. And, you know, obviously you bring up a corollary point there in that we have such a tight labor market, you know, for distribution centers, truck drivers, and, you know, and so forth. Certainly the capabilities that we bring to market focus on blending, you know, automation, robotics and people in the warehouse and so forth certainly is very helpful for our customers.
spk05: Okay, great. And then just going back to your earlier comments around the bounce back that you're seeing in your Active Omni business and product, maybe just talk a little bit about what you think is driving that so-called bounce back.
spk02: I mean, stores were closed, right, for a couple of quarters, you know, number one. the acceleration of the digital transformation that we're all seeing personally and professionally. So we're seeing a combination of the stores reopening and the need for store systems and very strategic omni-channel initiatives that are driving growth for retail and wholesale customers alike. Great. Thank you. That's all from me. Thanks. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate it.
spk01: And your next question comes from the line of Matt Paul from William, where your line is open.
spk07: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to first start out on the supply chain challenges that I'm sure many of your customers are having. How is that impacting your business, if at all? Because I imagine it could drive demand as well as perhaps create some distractions with customers or prospects.
spk02: Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I would say it's got a slight positive to it, Matt. We're obviously involved largely in the finish good side, so on the import side of things and all those all those boats sitting off the port of Long Beach and everywhere else, we're not necessarily managing that sequencing and so forth. But when the finished goods hit shore, there is a great need to accelerate the movement of that inventory, have the inventory in the right place at the right time, and then get that inventory in the hands of the consumers in a timely fashion. And, of course, again, our solutions are creating that speed and that dexterity and that agility for our customers to be able to manage through these or help manage through these very, very tough times and the need to be able to manage inventory at very, very high levels.
spk07: Got it. Great. And any update on the point-of-sale solution?
spk02: I put a few comments in my prepared remarks about point of sale. But, yeah, we've seen a couple of terrific go-lives in recent weeks and recent months. And in terms of closures, a couple of other nice, real important wins for us in the quarter. So continuing to see that forward momentum, frankly. And, you know, looking forward to getting more and more and more referenceable customers there. And as Brian from Ray J mentioned, you know, the more referenceable customers that you've got, the less friction there might be in the sales cycle. So these couple of go lights we had in the quarter are important to us, and as are the new sales and new bookings that we've seen in the quarter, too.
spk07: Great. And last one for me, just in terms of the dynamic of RPO growth and cloud revenue growth, maybe you can just remind us again about the timing differences between the two. And now that you've given us this helpful multi-year outlook, we can kind of see how cloud revenue growth accelerates and then RPO growth comes down a little bit off its high. But how do we sort of think about the timing differences and how long those discrepancies take to resolve?
spk02: Well, I mean, I don't know. One of the reasons for providing those supplemental schedules and, you know, the guideposts and so forth was so that you can see how that dynamic shapes up. If you were to kind of pin me down on, you know, how long it takes for those things to normalize, it'd probably be the 18 to 24-month timeframes. And now, of course, by the same token, we're going to continue to drive new RPO. It'll have the same dynamic built into it. So, you know, but I think, you know, 18 to 24 months before you see that kind of really normalized.
spk07: Okay. You know, I guess maybe another way to look at it is with the active WM implementations, which I think are the main things, you know, driving that discrepancy with the implementation rollouts. Yeah. what would the typical rollout for your active WM deployments be? Because if I understand correctly, that's the primary driver of sort of the timing differences between those two items.
spk02: Yeah. Well, so the thing to really be aware of there is a lot of this ramp, as we call it, is driven by multi-site rollouts. So the average duration, typical duration to get an active WM site up and running, let's call it the six-month kind of timeframe. But when you're dealing with a global 10, 20, 30 distribution centers or more distribution centers around the globe, that's what takes time to move through, you know, that deer moving through the snake. Got it.
spk07: Okay. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Certainly, Matt.
spk01: And your final question comes from the line of Mark Zygoto-Wiz from Rosenblatt Securities. I'm sorry, but the question was withdrawn. Please go ahead, presenters.
spk02: Okay. Very good. If that's all of the questions for today, we'll say thank you very much for everybody's time, your support, and we'll look forward to seeing you or, excuse me, talking to you on our Q4 call in about 90 days or so. Thanks again. Bye-bye.
spk01: And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now all disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
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