908 Devices Inc.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us and welcome to the 908 Devices second quarter 2025 financial results conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand. If you have dialed into today's call, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. I will now hand the conference over to Kelly Gurra, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you. This morning, 908 Devices released financial results for the second quarter ended June 30th, 2025. If you've not received this news release, or if you'd like to be added to the company's distribution list, please send an email to ir at 908devices.com. Joining me today from 908 is Kevin Knopp, Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder, and Joe Griffith, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, our commentary today will include the presentation of some non-GAAP financial measures. These measures should be considered as a supplement to and not a substitute for GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most direct comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in today's earnings press release, which is available in the investor relations section of our website. Additionally, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated. Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears in the section entitled, Forward-Looking Statements in the Press Release SinoVite Devices Issued Today. For a more complete list and description, please see the risk factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, and it is other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Except as required by law, 908 Devices disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. This conference call contains time-sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast, August 5, 2025. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Kevin.

Thanks, Kelly. Good morning, and thank you for joining our second quarter 2025 earnings call. I'm really proud of our team's performance and execution in the second quarter. We delivered strong growth ahead of internal expectations while undertaking initiatives to meaningfully reduce our OPEX and spending to march towards profitability with the goal of being adjusted EBITDA positive by Q4 of this year. Revenue from continuing operations was $13 million, an increase of 14% over the prior year period. Growth was driven by strong device sales with our mass spec devices again this quarter accounting for roughly 60% of revenue and our FTIR products making up the other 40%. Our adjusted EBITDA loss was $3.9 million for the quarter, an improvement of more than 45% year-over-year compared to our previously disclosed adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2024 prior to our transformation. And importantly, the adjusted EBITDA loss reduced by 15% quarter-over-quarter. We are advancing with urgency and discipline towards the 908 Devices 2.0 vision outlined earlier this year, positioning the company for sustained growth and impact. To realize this, we've established three strategic focus areas for 2025, targeting marketing expansion, advancing innovation, and reinforcing financial discipline. I'll walk through the progress we've made across each area in the second quarter. Our first focus is to increase adoption of our devices to address global threats to public health and safety. We equip frontline responders with rapid, reliable chemical identification tools that require minimal training and perform when it matters most. Our aim is to define the benchmark for advanced chemical detection in the field. We delivered another strong quarter in Q2, placing 164 devices, including a record number of Explorer units. This marks our highest quarterly performance for Explorer and underscores its impact in filling a critical gap in hazardous gas identification. Our results in the first half and our pipeline give us confidence in meeting our full-year targets. As we look towards 2026, we are encouraged by recent legislative actions that strengthen the funding landscape and will support customer procurement of our devices, bolstering our ability to achieve our previously articulated goal of 20% plus growth. First is the newly passed US budget FY26 reconciliation bill, dubbed the One Big Beautiful Bill. This bill and related appropriations include over $760 million in combined funding for the COPS and Burn JAG grant programs to support local law enforcement in combating fentanyl and other illicit drugs. Additional funding includes $615 million for the Urban Area Security Initiative, which addresses terrorism and other threats, and $370 million for the Assistance to Firefighters Grant for critical equipment, such as our Explorer device. In Q2, the majority of Explorer orders were funded through this Firefighters Assistance Grant. Combined, these grant funding levels exceed $1.7 billion, representing an approximate 11% increase from 2024 levels. The bill also includes a 7% year-over-year increase to the Department of Homeland Security budget, which opens broader procurement opportunities across its many agencies and includes $900 million to secure large-scale events like the 2026 FIFA World Cup and the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics. Our devices have been used to secure public safety at several large sporting events, such as a Super Bowl, and more recently at the Indianapolis 500 in May. Our interceptor device, which is a version of our Explorer gas detection product, specifically for unmanned systems, was coupled with the Acelon Robotics drone dog for remote and continuous air monitoring throughout the speedway, including the tunnels underneath the track. While we remain focused on the massive handheld opportunities in front of us, over time autonomous robot and drone platforms can further expand use cases for our technology as they develop and become adopted lastly provisions in the one big beautiful bill and other recent legislative action strengthen the foundation for deploying modern portable detection solutions like our mx908 device while the detect fentanyl and xylazine act passed in december 2024 provides the statutory authority to support the use of commercial off-the-shelf solutions to improve drug detection, the funding priorities being planned create a clear procurement pathway for these tools. Further, last month's passage of the HALT Fentanyl Act reinforces the federal government's aggressive posture on synthetic opioids by permanently scheduling fentanyl-related substances as Schedule I drugs. This legislative action broadens enforcement capabilities and places added emphasis on detection technologies that can stay ahead of rapidly evolving analogs. The MX908 handheld mass spec device is uniquely positioned to support this mission. With its trace detection and machine learning capabilities, the MX908 can identify over 2,000 fentanyl analogs, giving law enforcement and other first responders unmatched competence in real time. This differentiation is particularly important as a threat landscape grows more complex and detection tools with limited libraries struggle to keep pace. Taken together, we expect that the recent U.S. legislative outcomes will institutionalize demand, support our addressable market, and clarify a growth path across our core customer segments for 2026 and beyond. With a renewed focus on modernization, we are well positioned to benefit from sustained investments in fentanyl interdiction, border security, and chemical threat preparedness. This is setting up not only the United States, but globally. In response to mounting global threats, allied nations agreed at the NATO summit in June to significantly increase defense spending, committing to invest 5% of GDP annually by 2035. This historic shift up from the previous 2% target is favorable for 908 devices, and our field deployable chemical detection solutions are directly aligned with NATO's priorities of deterrence, defense readiness, and civil preparedness. Our technology supports threat identification in critical scenarios such as CBRNI defense, border security, and special operations, areas likely to see increased procurement activity under the new funding framework. Our second focus area is advancing our next-gen analytical tools portfolio. At our core, we are an innovation-driven analytical instrumentation company. We are committed to the relentless pursuit of higher performance, breakthrough capabilities, and greater simplicity. July marked a key milestone in 908 Devices' strategic transformation with the successful launch of Vypr, our new 3-in-1 handheld chemical analyzer. Vypr was purpose-built for high-stakes environments, particularly global customs organizations that sit at the intersection of security and trade. These agencies face the dual challenge of interdicting dangerous materials like narcotics, explosives, and toxic chemicals, while also ensuring the smooth flow of legitimate commerce. Viper addresses this critical need by combining FJIR and Raman spectroscopy into a single seamless workflow enabled by a proprietary smart spectral processing technology. The result is faster, more confident chemical identification in the field without repeated sampling or interpretation delays. Strategically, ViPR fits squarely within our handheld platform approach, extending our capabilities in chemical identification and deepening our relevance with core customers. It broadens our reach within the existing addressable market, serving customers where we see strong alignment between capability and demand. ViPR supports the long-term growth trajectory we've outlined, while the successful launch and positive early feedback increases our confidence. We are actively engaged with multiple customs agencies for testing and evaluation and see a clear path to future pilot and enterprise opportunities. Adoption is expected to benefit from widespread familiarity with FJAR and Raman workflows, which lowers the barrier to entry and supports efficient scaling. From a financial perspective, VIPER is neutral to gross margin and fully aligned with our discipline model. As we look ahead, Viper strengthens our position in global security markets and sets the stage for future innovation, including the next generation MX-908, which remains on track for release in 2026. And finally, our third focus area is strengthening our financial position and accelerating profitability. We are continuing to target adjusted EBITDA positive by the fourth quarter of this year. We achieved several key milestones in the second quarter in support of this goal. First, we completed the transfer of all MX-908 manufacturing from Boston to our lower-cost facility in Danbury, Connecticut, which also houses our FTR production to enable greater operational efficiency. Second, we completed the physical asset transfer of our bioprocessing for polio to repligen. And third, we completed the relocation of our corporate office from Boston to a smaller, more cost-effective site in Burlington, Massachusetts. I want to thank our team for their focus and resourcefulness as we executed these critical projects to lower facility costs, improve margin, and gain efficiency. Last month, we took steps to strengthen and secure our supply chain of critical FJR components by acquiring the assets of KAF Manufacturing Company, a precision machining manufacturer based in Stanford, Connecticut, for $2.75 million. KAF is a longtime supplier of key components of our FJR devices. This acquisition provides us with the ability to scale faster and improve quality control, lessening our dependence on external vendors. Last year, we spent approximately $5 million with external precision machine shops, and insourcing enhances protection from tariffs and contributes meaningfully to our margin improvement and profitability goals. Concurrently, we signed a three-year $6.6 million agreement with an upfront cash payment of $750,000 to supply precision optical components and assemblies to a large analytical instrumentation company that is an existing 908 devices and KAF customer. We also believe this supply relationship enhances our visibility into industrial QA2C and pharma markets, creating new opportunities to expand our technology reach through strategic partnerships. Importantly, it also supports and de-risks our previously stated goal of generating $2 million or more annually in OEM revenue. In summary, the alignment of policy, product, and performance is propelling 908 devices forward, enabling us to expand our impact, extend our market leadership, and deliver on our commitment to profitability. I'll now hand it over to Joe to review our second quarter financial performance.

Thanks, Kevin. As a result of the sale of our desktop portfolio in the first quarter, our financials will be reporting continuing operations only with any current and past activity related to our desktops, including the gate on sale, on one line item within discontinued operations in our financial statements. Total revenue was $13 million for the second quarter 2025, up 14% from $11.5 million in the prior year period. primarily driven by an increase in handheld product and service revenue. Handheld product and service revenue was $12.5 million for the second quarter of 2025, up 13% from $11.1 million for the second quarter of 2024. We shipped 164 devices in the second quarter, compared to 143 devices shipped in the second quarter of 2024, bringing our installed base to 3,336. As expected, program product and service revenue was not material in both the second quarter 2025 and 2024. We are not assuming any meaningful revenue contribution from the AFCAD program in 2025 as we completed the initial low-rate production deliveries in Q3 2024 and are preparing for full-rate production in 2026. OEM and funded partnership revenue was $0.5 million for the second quarter 2025 compared to $0.4 million in the prior year period. This revenue was primarily driven by pharma and industrial QAQC customers. Recurring revenue, which consists of consumables, accessories, and service revenue, represented 36% of total revenues this quarter and was $4.7 million, a 28% or a $1 million increase over the prior year period, largely driven by service revenues and accessories, including the software quantification module for Explorer and Arrow modules for MX-908. Looking ahead, we continue to expect recurring revenue for the full year to be approximately 30% of total revenue as device placements increase in the second half. Gross profit was $6.4 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared to $6.2 million for the prior year period. Gross margin was 49% for the second quarter 2025 compared to 54% for the prior year period. with the decrease primarily driven by intangible amortization from the red wave acquisition, restructuring charges, and an increase in warranty costs related to increasing install base. Adjusted gross profit was $7.3 million for the second quarter of 2025, compared to $6.7 million for the prior year period. Adjusted gross margin was 56%, a decrease of approximately 220 basis points compared to the prior year period. The decrease in adjusted gross margin was driven by an increase in warranty costs, as mentioned. Total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2025 were $21.5 million, compared to $14.7 million in the prior year period. The increase in operating expenses was driven by a $6.8 million non-cash charge for the change in the fair value of the contingent consideration liability, $1 million in facility shutdown and restructuring charges, and an increase in operating expenses related to our red wave technology acquisition, where we have three months of expenses versus two months in the second quarter of 2024. This was offset by 2 million of red wave related deal costs in the second quarter of 2024. Over the last few months, we have taken definitive steps to lowering our operating expenses going forward, including a 44% reduction in square footage related to our facilities and a 39% reduction in headcount compared to prior year. Net loss from continuing operations for the second quarter of 2025 was $12.9 million compared to $7.6 million in the prior year period. This increase was largely driven by the non-cast charge and other factors I just discussed and was additionally offset in part by $1.2 million of income net of expenses from our transition services agreement with Reflegent. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of 2025 was a loss of 3.9 million compared to a loss of 3.6 million in the prior year period. We benefited from favorable gross margin percentage in the second quarter of 2024. We ended the second quarter of 2025 with 118.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities with no debt outstanding. We consumed approximately 5.7 million of cash in the second quarter of 2025. As we shared last quarter, the net proceeds from the sale of our desktop portfolio, combined with the streamlined cost structures we implemented in Q4 and our growth drivers for 2025 and beyond, give us confidence we will cross over to break even in 2026 with a healthy cash balance. Looking ahead in 2025, we now expect revenue from continuing operations to be in the range of $54 to $56 million, representing growth of 13% to 17% over full year 2024 revenue from continuing operations. This compares to our prior range of $53 to $55 million. Our updated guidance range includes the following assumptions. First, we expect handheld product and service revenue to grow 17 to 21% year over year, which equates to a range of $52 to $54 million. The $1 million increase is driven by second quarter performance and our continued confidence in our second half outlook. Second, we continue to expect OEM and funded partnerships, including contract revenue, to be approximately $2 million. Third, as mentioned, we are not assuming any meaningful revenue contribution from U.S. Department of Defense AFCAP program in 2025, as we completed the initial low-rate production deliveries in Q3 2024 and are preparing for potential full-rate production in 2026. And fourth, last year, our second half revenue was equally split between Q3 and Q4. Based on our current visibility into the timing and logistics around a few large orders, we expect second half revenue to be closer to a 45% versus 55% split between Q3 and Q4. We continue to expect total revenue growth to accelerate above 20% in 2026, driven by our three growth catalysts, expanding handheld adoption, launching next generation products, and scaling our US government programs. Moving down the P&L, We continue to expect adjusted gross margins to increase to the mid to high 50% range for full year 2025, with further expansion in 2026 with our manufacturing consolidation in Connecticut, which we have now completed. And as Kevin discussed, we recently acquired the assets of CAF, which contributes to our ongoing margin improvement in 2026. And we are continuing to target adjusted EBITDA positivity in Q4 this year. supported by our Q4 revenue projection of approximately $17 million, anticipated gross margin expansion, and lower operating costs following our portfolio divestiture and facility consolidation. At this point, I would like to turn the call back to Kevin.

Thanks, Joe. To wrap up, Q2 was a strong step forward in our transformation. We delivered top-line growth ahead of expectations, executed key structural initiatives to improve our financial profile, and made solid progress on our path to profitability. With record placements of Explorer, the successful launch of Viper, and a funding environment that's improving both in the U.S. and internationally, we're confident in meeting our 2025 targets and building sustained momentum into 2026 and beyond. We're also excited to welcome Dr. Brandy Vann to our Board of Directors. Dr. Vann brings decades of leadership in defense and biodefense, most recently serving as the principal deputy assistant secretary for the defense for nuclear chemical biological defense programs. Her background aligns squarely with our mission and her insights will be a strategic asset as we grow our presence across national security and global preparedness markets. Thanks again for your continued interest in 908 Devices. We look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. With that, let's open it up to questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand now. If you have dialed into today's call, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Dan Arias with Stifel. Please go ahead. Dan, a reminder to unmute yourself. All right, oh.

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Okay, sorry about that. Kevin, it does sound like there are some good high-level tailwinds that you have when it comes to just federal funding items, some of the international priorities on security. You mentioned some pretty major sporting events. Are those things showing up in the order book or the sales funnel in a way that has some confidence behind it? Or is it sort of best to just think about the wind blowing in your direction right now, but you still need some time to see acceleration that sort of reflects those things?

Yeah, thanks, Dan, for the question. I think it's a little more towards the latter. As you know, we're working in a defense and homeland security, just U.S. federal budget. That's a continuing resolution. It is a full year continuing resolution. We've talked in the past that that's not ideal, but it definitely provides better visibility to our customers. I think the good thing that we're trying to call out in the prepared remarks here is that the New administration is clearly prioritizing the areas that we're working most in, national security, law enforcement. Unlike call it NIH facing cuts, defense and DHS are seeing proposed meaningful budget increases. And we think that is a long-term driver, particularly as we get into FY26, the government's next fiscal year there. Yeah, we called out some legislation priorities around the Detect Fentanyl Act, the Halt Fentanyl Act, and even just last week, if you saw in the news, there was some efforts to crack down on a roadside overpass. opioid product called 70H that's out there. So a lot happening in these areas from the legislative side. But then if you look at the efforts with the one big, beautiful bill, and there's definitely, we see sources of strength developing to support our customers and drive us next year towards that 20% plus top line. So a lot of good things perhaps coming. We called out some of the increases in spending that are being forecasted for the grant programs, which our customers rely on. So yeah, I think it's a little bit more towards the latter, as you framed it.

Yeah, makes sense. Okay. Okay. And then Joe, on the crossover of positivity at the EBITDA line, as you exit the year, do you think you can stay there? Or is it more likely to move around a little bit on seasonality and other factors? I know we'll talk about 26 in a couple of quarters, but just sort of interested in how things might progress once you hit the milestone, so to speak.

Yeah, we did reiterate, you know, the Q4 adjusted EBITDA target and see a path to getting there. I think as you think about it, crossing over to 26, we do have seasonality within the business. Usually in the first half, it's cash consuming, right? And then with volume and traction, It recovers a bit in the second half. So I'd anticipate that to be similar. But we're definitely off to a great start in the first five months since we announced the desktop portfolio divestiture and remain confident in our ability to get to that positive adjusted EBITDA. in Q4. I think to achieve that, you know, we need to hit our Q4 revenue projection about $17 million, you know, combined with expanding gross margins and lower operating costs. And then we'll be working hard on the full year 2026. Okay, very good.

Thank you, guys.

Your next question comes from the line of Matt LaRue with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good questions. This is Jacob Cranville on for Matt. I wanted to ask just about the new launch product Viper. Just launched that last month. Just give you an opportunity to talk about the early uptake or any early contribution from that product. How does it fit into The existing sales team's bag, are there any incremental training or expenses associated with that launch? And the guide was raised proportionately to the beat, at least relative to our model, about $1 million at the midpoint. I know you noted that reflected the outperformance from Q1, but is there any incremental contribution from Viper we should be expecting that could be upside to the model in the fourth quarter or back half of the year?

Yeah, thank you. I'll start with the first part of it. I mean, we acquired RedWave in early 2024. And to us, it's a great platform technology. And we're really proud to have launched Viper here recently in early June. Sorry, July. You know, Viper is a three-in-one handheld chemical analyzer, and it's really being built specifically for groups that are more like a global customs organization, people that are concerned with that intersection of security and trade. So it absolutely addresses the challenge of injecting narcotics, explosives, and toxic chemicals, but it's also trying to be quick and speedy and help with the flow of legitimate commerce. The product fits well and is differentiated with what we have in the bag, as you put it, from our product set of our handhelds, including what we do for bulk solid and liquid detection, because it integrates two technologies, EFTAR and Raman, and then takes a third technologies and strings it all together, which we call this smart spectral processing technology. What that does is it makes a confirmatory workflow. So it's less operator involvement. It's faster, more of a confirmatory, confident chemical identification, less sampling and the like. So strategically, it absolutely fits in the bag, as you put it. Strategically, it very much fits into what I like to think is the flywheel that we go from the early engagements with people and workshops and conferences through to our training events. And then obviously the post-sales support and reach back that our team is respected for by our customer base. So I think it fits very, very well into that. In terms of the financial profile, I'll pass it to you, John.

Yeah, I think, Jacob, we see some potential sources of upside that could flow through here in the second half. One of those is Viper and Viper revenue growth inflection. We think it's more of a 2026 story as we sit here today. We have a few ops that are developing in our pipeline. Beyond Viper, there are some other potential opportunities on the upside side. The realization of some of the macros that Kevin walked through are developing as tailwinds. If we begin to see some acceleration of demand and funding ability, to support related to the new administration's focus on defense spending, border security and combating the fentanyl crisis in the U.S. in similar trends internationally. So we see some of those priorities come together. It's probably more of a 2026 thing, but we do flip to FY26, October 1st. So if we can see some of those realized sooner. Also, there's always a better than expected conversion of large kind of enterprise opportunities for both our MX and our FTIR devices with our combined portfolio that could gain traction under the United Salesforce. So we've mentioned that there's an opportunity for that to grow. So really those combined, you know, Viper is just one of those opportunities.

Yeah, and to hit your last point, which included in there was around the early feedback. So we are engaged with multiple customs organizations across the globe, and we are getting good initial early feedback that that is that seed for as Joe described it to the pilot to then to the enterprise accounts. likely in that call it 2026 timeframe. One of the positive feedbacks we're getting is around the connected services element, the team leader connection to be able to do fleet management across that portfolio of the fleet of the potential Viper rollouts in a particular organization.

Got it. Got it. I think that all makes sense. Sounds good. On Explore, you know, record device sales in the quarter, I think you noted, maybe I misheard, but you noted, you know, the majority of the orders in the quarter were funded through this new U.S. legislation bill that was passed. Just kind of wondering what the runway for this level of sustained device placement growth looks like related to, you know, this new funding and whether there are Any other areas within the portfolio you kind of expect to see a similar outsized benefit from this legislation?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the Explorer is our, call it, second newest product next to Viper. And we did highlight another strong quarter and really that first half now. Q2 was 164 new devices, but 45 of those were our Explorers in Q2. And I think that's really happening because gas detection and air monitoring is very topical. You can see that in some of the other competitors' reports as well, that there's some good drivers to that. It's detecting and identifying and filling a gap that doesn't exist out there in the world of gas detection, and that's unknown identification. So that fills a gap for a capability for firefighters in particular. Yeah, you're right. We did call out the majority were funded on the Assistant to Firefighters Grant Program for critical equipment and equipment. That is a program that has been going for a number of years, and there is now being mentioned in the legislation for FY26 around keeping that commitment and having around $370 million for firefighter grants going forward. So we're excited about that, that that's continued. In the whole, as we called out, there's about $1.7 billion of grant funding that our customer base usually is targeting, and that's now in the One Big Beautiful Bill. We'll see what transpires as it moves through appropriations, but that's a meaningful increase. That's about an 11% increase in total that's there. So we're seeing good diversity in orders. We haven't seen just one large order to make up those 45. We've seen a lot of one, two, or five-unit orders, which we really like. So, again, we think what's driving the adoption is customers really prioritizing the air monitoring for hazmat response and identifying, quantifying unknown odors, leaks, gases. So we're pleased about that progress.

Awesome. Thanks. I'll leave it there and jump back into Keith.

Your next question comes from the line of Punit Suda with Lyrinc Partners. Please go ahead.

Hi, guys. Thanks for the questions here. So maybe first on 26, you're expecting 20% plus growth there. Could you maybe elaborate how much of that is more of the run rate business that you were expecting from state and local agencies there? versus the upside that you are now expecting from the JAG program, the urban area security, firefighters, and other programs that are part of the, you know, maybe the one big, beautiful bill, you know, how should we think about, you know, the overall upside and your confidence in the current portfolio to grab a portion of those grants? Yeah.

Yeah, no, great question. I mean, we've highlighted in the past and again today around three growth catalysts that we see. One is equipment modernization. So that's taking that existing portfolio and executing. That does take in count the grant programs, which historically have funded our customers, particularly against state and local. So it's great to see that those are continuing. We see a lot of greenfield opportunities there. We are working, as you know, to replace, I'm going to call it, older and aging variants of these technologies out there. So there's about 15,000 or so, as we estimate, FTIRs out there that we are targeting with that. Our MX908 has over 2,800 devices out there. That's really been a class leader product. And as you know, we're working on the next generation. So Catalyst One is really that execution and driving. The contract vehicles that I mentioned are a way to continue that momentum. It's great to see that they've increased 11% year-over-year in total. And then the new products. We talked about Viper. We're excited about its contributions upcoming for largely 2026. And then we have talked about that next generation MX. And then the last Third catalyst that we've called out, driving for the 20% plus, if we're executing on all three of those, the plus would be emphasized. And that's really around the AVCAD. And that we are, again, looking forward to a decision and a path forward with that program. We're still targeting the end of Q3 for such a decision. It's possible that it extends a bit into later this year, but certainly by the end of 2025, we're looking for clarity on how that program is moving forward. And so we're working now with that manufacturing transition complete to be able to hit the ground running and be able to ramp as that comes into clarity for us. So all those three.

And pretty touching on the state and local channel, kind of U.S. state and local. It's been a steady growth driver. And for the first half was a little over 12 million of our revenues. And having that run rate, it takes work, right? One, two, five unit opportunities. But we have a top notch sales team that delivers on that and is a good baseline. And with our expanded portfolio, continue to win, especially post the Red Wave acquisition. So Kevin hit on the catalyst and the growth drivers. Excited to have Viper launched. as a key growth driver and FTIR overall for 2026. Some optionality on AvCAD as we get additional visibility and timing. So yes, targeting that 20% plus as we move into 2026.

Got it. That's helpful. And then just following up on AvCAD, how should we think about the phasing of that? And if you could remind us, what's the revenue opportunity? I think it was 10 million, but if you can remind us How should we layer that in into 26? And then on the pricing and gross margin side, I just wanted to get your view on your ability to price within these grants and the programs that are coming up for 26. And now with the facility moves, are you, could you maybe just elaborate on the capacity utilization and how should we think about the gross margin ramp going ahead?

Sure. We'll touch on AVCAD and definitely can jump in on the other topics. So, yes, on AVCAD, we continue to work through, you know, anticipate the, you know, full rate production award. working through the timing there, but it can be roughly 10 million per year or greater, over a five to seven year period, likely ramping, right? So I think there's the opportunity to start seeing some shipments in 26. Timing will be determined upon receiving the award. But as you know, we're a subcontractor, so we'd be providing to Smiths and then Smiths on to the end customer. So it continues to be a great opportunity for our mass spec technology in the expansion there. As we think about pricing and gross margin in 2026, each year we take a look at the market and the ability to increase the pricing at the top line to offset any related costs, etc. But I think from a pure cost perspective, pretty heavy efforts here in the first half to move facilities, get manufacturing down the dam barrier. about a quarter ahead of time. We brought in some of the production of our MX to facilitate that move in Q2, but I think that sets us up for a lower cost footprint. There is plenty of capacity today. It's almost 40,000 square feet, mainly able to be ramped up for manufacturing. We run one shift today. So great acquisition that set that platform. Amazing team that enabled the transition here in Q2. And I think it sets us up as we ramp into 2026. Got it.

Helpful, guys. Thank you.

Your final question comes from the line of Chad Wiatrowski with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys, chat on for Brendan Smith. Just want to double click on through the manufacturing base. Will all of the new products, including MX 908 2.0, be manufactured in Danbury as well? And would that require any additional capex? Where is the space there today?

Yeah, that's right. As Joe just highlighted, we really have worked aggressively to consolidate our manufacturing in Danbury, Connecticut. And that facility there is a great modern but yet cost effective facility for us. And we're able to get a lot of leverage if you're doing all of your production lines in one place. We also called out on the call a small asset acquisition that we did recently. With KF manufacturing, which is an ability for us also to work on those gross margins and secure our supply chain. We spend something around $5 million per year on external machine shops. Now we're able to in-house that a bit, and it helps us control the quality, but it also helps us drive the margin side.

Yeah, and specific capital for MX kind of next gen. I'd say it's minimal, right? It's leveraging our core technology. So it's probably a rounding error and it'd be just around tooling and setup. But nothing with the facility move and the ramp up of the people in transitioning from MX to MX next gen. We should be in good shape there.

Got it. Thanks. And then in terms of all the federal budget tailwinds that you called out on the call, is that more of a tailwind to ignite some of these upcoming replacement cycles? Or does this bolster your ability to sign new customers and increase the sales channel? How do you sort of prioritize and how do you plan on juggling the two?

Yeah, I think it absolutely supports both. We do see a lot of greenfield opportunity for new customers adopting. Maybe Explorer was some good evidence of that in this quarter. But the replacement cycle, if you will, of servicing some maybe more outdated technologies and getting in there with modern solutions, we think that is also well served in this. We called out some of the U.S. federal developing markets. call it tailwinds for FY26 and beyond that are part of the one big, beautiful bill. But I'd also point out that this isn't just the United States. We're also seeing activity across the NATO countries. You've probably seen in June, and we called out and prepared remarks that some of the allied nations now are increasing their spend. So From our perspective, U.S. and international policymakers are responding to the instability out there, security risk, and we do see it creating a sustained tailwind for advanced detection technology, whether it be a replacement, whether it be a new adoption, whether it be an MX or whether it be an FTR. We really want to be the leader across that whole space from gas detection to trace the bulk solid liquid, and we can do so pretty efficiently with the sales platform that we've created. Thanks for the questions, guys.

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Kevin Knopp for closing remarks.

Well, thank you all. Thank you all for your attendance today and support and interest in 908. Have a great day.

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