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spk01: Hello everyone and welcome to the Mercado Libre earnings conference call for the quarter ended March 31st 2024. Thank you for joining us. I'm Richard Cathcart, Mercado Libre's investor relations officer. Today we will share our quarterly highlights on video after which we will begin our live Q&A session with our management team. Before we go on to discuss our results for the first quarter of 2024, I remind you that management may make or refer to and this presentation may contain forward looking statements and non-GAAP measures. So please refer to the disclaimer on screen, which will also be available in our earnings materials on our investor relations website. With that, let's begin with a summary of our results.
spk18: Hello everyone, I'm pleased to report another quarter of solid results with excellent operational and financial performance in Brazil and Mexico. Both countries post GMB growth of approximately 30% year on year as we carry over strong momentum from Q4. This above market growth is being driven by several factors, including improvement of user experience with many mice as the highlight, and strategic investment in cheap infrastructure, which are driving faster growth in specific target regions, and a well-executed marketing campaign that is leveraging on the awareness we generated in Q4 around peak season. In addition, our advertising business continues to grow nicely and reach record levels of GMB penetration in all of the markets where we operate. Mercado Pago also had a solid performance in Mexico and Brazil, with some of the highlights being the acquiring business growing at an accelerated rate sequentially in both countries. We had a solid credit growth portfolio surpassing the $4.4 billion and growing strongly from last year, and a strong quarter for Mercado Pago credit card. We issued 1.5 million cards in this quarter, and the TPB reached $1.9 billion, growing 173% from last year. In summary, in Q1, we delivered a strong operational performance in commerce and fintech, both in Brazil and Mexico, which has offset the negative impact of a weak macro in Argentina and the peso devaluation in that country. Before turning to our financial performance in more detail, I'd like to highlight that there are a couple of reporting updates that have taken effect in this quarter. Investors can find a summary of the impacts on our financials in this quarter's shareholders' letter, and a full reconciliation in our earnings presentation. My comments today would refer to the numbers that are comparable to the figures we reported in Q1 last year. Consolidated revenues grew at a fast pace on the back of the strong operational momentum that I mentioned earlier. Brazil and Mexico had an outstanding quarter, and the revenue's growth was sufficient to offset the impact of headwinds in Argentina. Income from operations grew strongly year on year once again, with margin expansions being driven by Mexico and Brazil. This reflects the combination of growth, scale and cost efficiency that drives operational leverage. And our long-term ambition is to continue delivering both growth and profit, and we are confident in our ability to achieve that. Net income grew at a faster pace than income from operations, as lower effects losses in Argentina were partially offset, but lower operational income in that country. Furthermore, the reporting updates I mentioned earlier have a broadly neutral impact on net income. Overall, we are very pleased with the performance of the business in Q1, despite the headwind from Argentina. And this is a great way to kick off Mercado Libre's 25th anniversary. Now, I'll pass over to Richard for more on the solid foundations we have built for the past 25 years, looking ahead for the next 25 years of Mercado Libre.
spk01: In 2024, Mercado Libre will celebrate its 25th anniversary, and we look back on the progress we've made in democratizing commerce and financial services in Latin America. Today, Meli is the leading technology company in the region and a major tech company globally, and has been recognized for its innovation, growth and impact in the region. In addition to business growth and impact, Mercado Libre has a consistent track record of generating shareholder value since our IPO in 2007.
spk05: We look
spk01: forward to the next 25 years with great confidence and optimism, as we still see plenty of opportunities to continue to grow and fulfill our mission in a region that provides us with a large addressable market. In Latin America, e-commerce is far from mature, and financial services are ripe for disruption. We are the leading e-commerce platform in the region, which has significant potential for growth from new buyers and higher frequency as engagement and penetration of retail rise. By building the fastest and most extensive delivery network in the region, and by offering the widest assortment and the best UX, we have become a natural destination for buyers and sellers. This drives a uniquely powerful and self-reinforcing network effect, as sellers invest to maximize their sales by capitalizing on our traffic. Both buyers receive an ever-improving value prop, which drives more traffic and growth. We are also building one of the largest retail media platforms in the region, which leverages our extensive first-party data to offer advertisers unique audience targeting capabilities and complete full funnel strategies. We are challenging the status quo in financial services, and by offering a wide array of -to-use services for individuals and merchants in large markets underserved by incumbents, we have become one of the region's leading fintechs. Our ecosystem is our competitive advantage in fintech services. Its data is uniquely rich and enables us to cross-sell. It's also enabled us to have a better view of credit risk and operate a business which matches the lowest cost to serve in the region. We have built a highly profitable acquiring business on the back of the technology and know-how developed for our marketplace. We are one of the largest fintechs in this market and are well-placed for market share gains across the region. We are also building MeleMites with the ambition of being the largest and most valued loyalty program in the region by leveraging our ecosystem to offer unique benefits. Technology is at the heart of everything we do, and having one of the largest teams of engineers in the region ensures non-stop innovation and product development. We have a diversified mix of revenue with ample opportunities for growth and monetization. Our scale, financial discipline and tech-first mentality mean we have low-cost structures with solid and sustainable profitability. Faccado Libre's powerful, intrinsic impact on the people we serve encourages entrepreneurship and promotes financial inclusion. We are proud of the achievements of the last 25 years, but our mission is far from complete. As the leader in an e-commerce market that is far from mature, and one of the leaders in a financial services market that is right for disruption, we are confident and optimistic in our future growth. As we look forward to the next 25 years, we're confident that the best is yet to come.
spk07: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Joining us for the Q&A are Martin De Los Santos, CFO, Eduardo Jimenez, Fintech President, and Ariel Sharfstein, Commerce President. Please wait while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Andrew Rubin with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk14: Thanks very much for the question, and congratulations on the 25 years. It's helpful the table you provide in the release that breaks down the peso-denominated and non-peso EBIT. Just thinking about the Argentina business, the unit's down five. It didn't strike us as a major decline, but you had a big hit on EBIT. So I was hoping you could walk us through the situation during the quarter, where you had mismatch between revenue and costs, and perhaps if you could, even how the business evolved on a -over-month basis within, given how fast-moving the Argentina macro situation has been. Thank you.
spk08: Hi, Andrew. How are you? Thank you for your
spk19: question. This is Martin. Yes, you know, in Argentina, we face two things happening. The devaluation of Argentina, which reduced the size of our business. As you know, Argentina is a high margin, EBIT margin business operation. And then we have the macro situation that obviously puts some pressure in terms of consumption. We've seen reduced volume and demand, even though, as you know, we manage a marketplace which is very resilient to this type of situation. We outperformed the consumption in general in the country, but we did suffer some loss of volume in Argentina in the commerce side of business. In terms of cost mismatch, I think we saw some inflation in terms of our shipping cost in Argentina. There was some pressure on that line of our P&L. And then to wrap up the situation in the country, on the fintech side, the business performed extremely well. We continue to have a very strong brand in Argentina, as in the management growing 64% year on year. We doubled the number of users of our investment products. The acquiring business in Argentina growing 300% more than inflation. And then active users also growing at 31% year on year. So overall, I think that's what you see in terms of operating income. And then when you go below operating income, as the double exchange rate situation in Argentina has been normalizing, we see significantly lower FX losses in Argentina. So that's compensated in the net income line of the P&L. So overall, I would say that Argentina was a headwind in terms of net income levels because of the lower FX and lower taxes that we pay this quarter in Argentina. But obviously, we had an extraordinary quarter in Brazil and Mexico that I'm sure we'll go into more detail later on in the call. Great. Thanks, Martin.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Bob Ford with Bank of America.
spk05: Hey, thank you very much. Happy anniversary and congratulations on a great quarter. Can you quantify the impact from the shift of Easter on the marketplace as well as Pago in Brazil and Mexico? And then in Argentina, what percent of GMB is done by sellers with less than 10,000 unidades de valor ad quinceivo per month? And how much would the proposed tax cuts represent to those small sellers in terms of GMB? And what do you need before you're willing to turn the key on interoperability in Argentina in terms of economics, security, or any other issues?
spk08: Thank you. Hi, Bob. It's Martin here.
spk19: Let me take the first part. I think you were asking about the effect of Eastern on our volume. But as you know, we always see a reduced volume on those days because typically in our country, it's four consecutive holiday days. And in this quarter, in particular, it was a little stronger because last year, Eastern fell on Q2 and this year fell in Q1. So if you look at the numbers for March, they were affected by those four days. So there was a little bit of loss of volume, which will eventually reverse next quarter because the opposite happens. It will play in favor of April, probably. So that's in terms of volume.
spk05: Is that fair, given the...
spk19: Is that the way we should think about it? We don't disclose the month by month numbers, but I'd say in March, we probably lost five or six percentage points in that particular month. We'll see what happens in April when we announce Q2.
spk15: Gotcha.
spk04: Hi, Bob. Let me answer the part of the interoperability question in Argentina. So as you know, we built a QR code network that is extremely successful in Argentina. And a few years back, we were required to interoperate in -to-account transactions, which we have been doing for a few years, two or three years now. And that is working very well. And now there's a mandate that we need to also interoperate for credit card transactions, which are a minor part of QR transactions in Argentina. And the majority are -to-account. So this is a minor part of that volume, is credit card transactions. And the way we built the network, since there was not a... When we built it a few years back, there was not a standard for QR code transactions. We do those transactions in a way which our process has online payment transactions. And so to be able to interoperate, we need two things. On the one hand, there's a technical requirement that those transactions need to be tokenized for the network to be secure. And on the other hand, we need to agree on commercial terms with the counterparties, which are likely to be... Will be banks and other wallets. We are in that process. We have already... Already on our side, we are able to process tokenized transactions, but we have not yet received those. Meanwhile, we are negotiating with the banks about if there will be some sort of interchange or fee for the wallets involved in these interoperable transactions.
spk19: Bob, I think to answer your last question regarding Argentina, obviously we are observing and analyzing the reform that's going on right now to see what the impact will be on our merchants. And then the number of merchants, I think you were referring to smaller merchants, it's a number that we don't disclose specifically. Thanks.
spk05: Thank you.
spk08: And again, congratulations. One moment for our next question.
spk07: Our next question comes from Marcelo Santos with JP Morgan.
spk16: Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask you about the profitability of Argentina. There was a very steep decline in the EBIT contribution of Argentina versus what you reported last year. I just wanted to understand, is this kind of a new ongoing level, new level for Argentina given this new currency reality? Or was there something more like one-off in this quarter that could be reversed in the next couple of quarters? Just because today Argentina, as the way you disclose, almost the same profitability as the rest, while it used to be much more profitable. So I just wanted to understand
spk08: that. Thank you. Hi, it's Martin here,
spk19: Marcelo. Thank you for your question. I think we mentioned before, yeah, Argentina had some tough macro situation. The devaluation also didn't help because when you look at the revenue pools of Argentina, because of the devaluation, by definition, it shrunk relative to the other countries. Also had some tough macro and demand issues that affected, particularly the commerce side of the business. But then also, Brazil and Mexico grew at an extraordinarily high rate. Just to put it in perspective, the EBIT of Argentina decreased year on year, as you mentioned, but the EBIT outside of Argentina grew by 185 percentage points. So almost doubled the EBIT coming from other countries. So as a result of that, you can see the share of EBIT coming from Argentina now is at 19%. Compared to a year ago, that was about 60%. So I think Argentina, again, the devaluation is behind us. We see macro affecting Q1, and we'll have to see how the rest of the year plays out. But again, we think that in terms of the EBIT contribution, it's a little bit normalized for the other reasons that I mentioned earlier today, that as we have the exchange rate higher than it used to be with the devaluation, it's more normalized because it's lower effects losses. But at net income level, the variance is not so high. So I will focus a lot more on net income as a main metric to evaluate the results of Mercado Libre, as we have been saying in the past. We were mentioning that there was a little bit of a distortion on the EBIT because of the effects in Argentina now is behind. So I think in terms of the effects distortion, I could say that it's something that is a new normal. And now we have numbers that are more normalized in terms of EBIT results.
spk08: Perfect. Thank you very much. One moment for our next question.
spk07: Our next question comes from Irma Sagars with Goldman Sachs.
spk12: Yeah, thanks for the opportunity. I'd like to ask about Mellimize and logistics. Thank you for the useful commentary in the shareholder letter. Now, as you get further into the rollout of the Mellimize program, where are you in terms of logistics network efficiency gains from the uplift to overall volume and units for shipment? And are the costs from greater free shipping subsidies that you provide there now more than set or by those efficiencies? Or will that take more time as you adjust the flow of the network and the overall engagement still rises? And I'd also be curious if there's any notable differences in take up and engagement with that program between Brazil and Mexico. Thank you.
spk09: Hi,
spk08: Irma.
spk19: Martin here. Yes, we have seen very good adoption of Mellimize both in terms of adopting the Mellie delivery date for those members, those users that are enrolled into the Mellimize program, but also we have seen incremental engagement and volume on our platform. So the results that we were expecting in terms of growth driven by Mellimize, we are seeing them there and we are super excited with those results. Obviously, that increases a little bit the cost of our shipping operations. We estimate that year on year, I have the number here to share with you. It does put some pressure on margin. I think it adds to any basis point as a percent of GMB of cost. But it's more than compensated value, that incremental value that we're generating through Mellimize. And then in terms of your first part of the question, optimizations, we think we are still at very early stages of optimizing Mellimize. Remember, Mellimize comes with a Mellie delivery date, which is a date on the week that the user chooses to get their products. So as we continue to scale the Mellimize, we will be able to lower cost of shipping by optimizing the way we group certain products and the way we optimize the delivery cost of the products for our users. So it's early stages, but very optimistic and very encouraged by the results of engagement and adoption so far.
spk12: Yeah, that's very exciting. And may I just ask about also the re-acceleration and TPV growth in Brazil? You highlighted new devices and we know that you've been shifting up market, but I was hoping to just get a bit more detail on the drivers of this acceleration and the direction of the incremental margin that comes attached with the revenues in this.
spk04: Thanks. Hi, Emma. So there were two components to the acceleration of TPV in Brazil. I would say the most relevant one, the more relevant one is online payments. We have been able to, I think there are several quarters in a row now where we have been able to accelerate the growth of online payments in Brazil, mostly by adding several larger merchants, big merchants, and increasing the share of wallet we do with them. There are several drivers for this, but definitely better performance and better approval rate. We are very encouraged by how we see this operation continuing. And then on the point of sale business, as we mentioned in prior calls, we have been changing a -to-market strategy and that is having a good effect. And we are seeing that business growing at an accelerated rate on a -on-quarter basis. So both mostly online payments, but also to some degree the point of sale business are accelerating in Brazil.
spk19: I just want to complement that, Emma, in terms of monetization. As we disclosed in the investment presentation, you can see that we continue to increase the cross-selling of credit to our acquiring users. So that contributes to improve the
spk09: profitability of that business.
spk12: Very helpful. Thank you.
spk07: As a reminder, if you want to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. Our next question comes from Jeffrey Elliot with Autonomous.
spk20: Hello. Thanks very much for taking the question. The change in Mercado Envios from agent to principal, the accounting impacts of that are all very clear. So thank you for that. But from a business point of view, what was the objective there? What does this mean in practice for the business side? And why are you doing it? Why have you made this change in terms of conditions?
spk08: Hey, Jeffrey.
spk17: This is Ariel here. So we see the process on the opposite. So over the last four or five years, we've been switching from operating purely with national post offices and carriers across Latin America into building our own logistics network. And basically, that process has already occurred. So what we've done now is adjusted our terms and conditions, bearing ourselves the responsibility for the execution, which is something we've been already doing. So nothing new in terms of the way we operate. I think that process has occurred already, and we are just now adjusting contractually and formally the way we've been operating for quite some time.
spk20: OK, so it reflects kind of you taking the risk rather than the national postal service taking the risk.
spk17: Say that again?
spk20: It is. So essentially, you're taking the risk on the shipping rather than the national postal service in the different countries. And that's why you've made this change.
spk17: We already had the risk. So this is what we've been doing since we launched our own last mile operation in 2019, since we have been taking over warehouses operations, our line calls, et cetera, et cetera. So nothing new, no risk profile changes. Right now, it's just formalizing something that has been happening already.
spk19: I would say that there's no change operationally. There's no incremental risk. It's just an accounting adjustment that we make. And it reflects better the way the business is running.
spk20: Got it. Thank you.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Neha Agarwal with HSBC.
spk11: Hi, congratulations, Mr. Rouse. And thank you for taking my question. Just quickly on the credit business, we saw a continued decline in the 90-day NPL. But there was an increase in the early-day in-quency, which you mentioned is partly because of the shift in the mix of the risk cohorts. Could you please elaborate on that as to why the early-day in-quencies have increased and what you mean by shift to risk-care cohorts? Thank you so much.
spk08: So there were
spk04: two components to the increase in early-day in-quencies. On the one hand, as you mentioned, we have been taking more risk going to risk-care segments. And the reason we are doing that is because our models are better at forecasting risk and correctly evaluating the risk of each user. And therefore, we are also pricing these accordingly. So even though there are higher NPLs, these credits have been priced with an adequate spread. So it's not a source of concern there. And the other factor that happened was the last week of March, the last week of the quarter ended with four days that were either weekend or holidays. And therefore, collections were typically lower than typical because in the last four days of the month, there was an invoice that would have been due in those days that was passed over to the following month. And there was a small effect for the fact that Good Friday and Good Thursday were the last two non-working days of the month.
spk11: If I can ask another question, when I look at your average interest rate, and this is excluding the increasing provisions, there has been a drop of about 800 basis points, quarter on quarter on the average interest rate for your loan book. I understand part of that is probably driven by the expansion in the credit card portfolio. But given the fact that you're moving into riskier cohorts, which are priced accordingly, why such a sharp decline quarter on quarter? Thank you.
spk19: Hi, how are you? It's Martin here. I think, well, first, when we compare year on year, the NEMAL margins, I think, is what you're referring to, is improving, despite the fact that we have a larger share of credit cards, which as you know, is lower NEMAL product. On a sequential basis, typically Q1, actually, let's put it that way, Q4 tends to be a good quarter for credits because of its strong collections, because of its 13 months on the year. So Q4 is a good month for collection, Q3 is a seasonally lower month for collection, so that's normal. It's something that is expected. In addition to two other things happening. Speed in terms of growth of our credit card portfolio is also contributing to that. And also the fact that we accelerated originations of other products, and that generates more provisions upfront. Remember, we provision 100% of the losses upfront when we originate. So we have a Q like Q1, where we accelerated sequentially the originations that tends to put pressure on margin. But like Osvaldo mentioned, there's nothing to worry about. We continue to have very strong AVID margins, NEMAL margins at 31.5 percentage points. So it's something that's under control and it's as expected.
spk11: Is your outlook on the credit business changed or modified slightly in the last month, given that we are now looking at probably a higher for longer kind of rates and add you in both Brazil
spk06: and Mexico?
spk09: Sorry, Nihal, could we repeat the question,
spk11: please? With
spk06: your
spk11: outlook in terms of picking up in originations in both Brazil and Mexico, has that changed over the last month, given that we are probably now looking for a higher for longer rate scenario in both countries?
spk19: No, it hasn't. We continue to have the same strategy as we had in the past, which is to continue to cautiously increase our credit book as we feel more confident in terms of our credit card. We are focusing a lot on growing our credit card, which is a critical product for our fintech strategy because it has many benefits in addition to the credit card. Users that start using the credit card use most of our other fintech products, bring their salaries into our account. They might take a loan, they might get insurance, start using the debit card and so on. So this is an important part of our strategy.
spk04: With regards to interest rates being a little bit higher, the expectation of them being higher, and that is relatively a very small factor when compared to the spreads we have.
spk19: I'm just a compliment that the fact that our loans are typically short maturity allows us to adjust very rapidly to changing interest environments.
spk11: Perfect. Thank you so much. Very helpful.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Maria Clara Intentosi with Etow BBA.
spk10: Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to explore the potential of monetization of logistic services ahead, even though you showed consistent improvement in the average speed of delivery and also accelerated procurement penetration for another quarter. So does the company intend to start being more local on charging for their procurement services? How far are we thrown in such a scenario? Thank you.
spk17: Hi, Maria Clara. Ariel here. Thanks for your question. I think there's no change in strategy for us. As we've been saying over the last few quarters, we know that there's an opportunity in the long run to increase our monetization on our shipping infrastructure. For now, we remain focused on A, capturing the most out of the efficiencies potential that we have, which means continue driving productivity gains and reducing costs. B, I would say getting sellers to operate with our network, particularly continue improving our fulfillment penetration, which has been going up consistently. And three, being disciplined regarding passing through inflation increases. But we know we have another lever for the longer term as to continue monetizing. We just don't think it's the right time.
spk10: Great. Thank you.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Marvin Fong with BTIG.
spk03: Good evening. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on 25 years. So a couple of questions. I'd like to get a little more detail on origination. So I believe it was about the same growth rate as last quarter in dollar terms, but I'm just curious how much Argentina factored into that. So perhaps you could give us some detail by country, like how origination performed. Did it accelerate versus last quarter? And then second question, just on Mellie delivery days, I believe you gave us some disclosure about how many of your shipments are generated by that channel. Just curious if you could give us an idea. Is that a significant money saver for you guys or is it really just designed to kind of lower stress on the network, but it's not particularly saving on cost and additionally, just maybe some idea of where that percentage can go over time. Thanks.
spk04: Hi Marvin. In terms of origination, most of the acceleration is coming from Brazil, where we are very comfortable with how our models are performing and we see increased demand for loans. In Argentina, we continue to be cautious. We have accelerated versus last quarter. We have grown versus last quarter, but we are at a rate which is significantly lower in dollar terms, significantly lower than what it was prior to the elections. And in Mexico, we are growing on an -on-year basis, but the origination was similar to that of prior quarter. And
spk19: I would add to that that we had a devaluation in the middle, so that also affects the growth rates in Argentina when you compare -on-year basis. But we continue to have a very healthy book in Argentina. It's probably the lowest MPLs in other regions, but we are cautious as Waldo mentioned.
spk17: Hey Marvin, Ariel here. Regarding Mellie delivery day, I think for the first time in our investor presentation, we have provided you with some details on slow shipment share, so you can see that more than 5% of our shipments were delivered with a slow method, most of which is coming from Mellie delivery day, which basically means that we saw a good adoption of MDD whenever buyers were using their Mellie miles offering to get free shipping in low ASP items. To your question on economics, I think we are seeing savings coming from that delivery model as more and more we can consolidate items in the same box and the same delivery route, but still we think that there's ample room for the program to continue scaling and driving costs down even more through more density in rules, more items per box, or even incremental transactions that could be delivered in the same delivery as well. So good progress so far. We are excited with the results that we've seen, but the opportunity there is also relevant.
spk03: Thanks so much. Really appreciate it everyone.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Craig Mauer with FT Partners.
spk13: Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking the question and happy anniversary. I wanted to ask about the ad penetration rate that moved up from 1.6 to 1.9%. Was this related to the GMB coming down Argentina or was this an actual improvement in adoption? Thanks.
spk17: Hey Craig, Ariel here again. So we had a very strong quarter in ads. As you said, penetration went up 30 basis points, Q on Q, and revenues grew 64% in dollars over the year, almost 100% in constant currency. I think the increase in penetration is definitely not coming only from Argentina. We saw a consistent increase in penetration across every country, and Mexico actually presented the highest growth both in terms of dollars and in terms of revenues as a percentage of GMB. So overall, excited with what happened this quarter and more importantly, convinced that the opportunity we have in front of us remains to be big and we have many levers to continue capturing that.
spk13: Can you just remind if there's any seasonality in that number that we should be watching out for?
spk17: No, we don't think there's a specific reason on seasonality. We made several product improvements both in terms of the algorithms that we use for the processes. We made changes in our placements in our search results. So many moving parts that did help us get some acceleration there.
spk13: Thanks very much.
spk07: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Kyle Prado with UBS.
spk02: Good evening. Hello everyone. Thanks for the opportunity for asking questions. I have two here on my side, please. First, two questions on the think tank. First, on the accounting reclassification that you made this quarter, if you could explain the rationale behind this change and why did you decide to do this now? And the second is related to Mexico. If you could please help us to understand the strategy behind the think tank business there, specifically on the banking business. If your plan is to compete with the think tanks that are growing there or if this should be much more of a financial arm for the marketplace business. Because looking to the financial industry there, seeing that not having a bank line just makes the business much more difficult than in Brazil for instance. You need some partners probably for investments, lending. So just would like to understand your view on this and if you are planning any other ways through
spk08: your license there as well. Thank you.
spk19: Hi,
spk08: Kyle. Martin
spk19: here. In terms of the reporting update as we explained on the investor letter, what we did is basically in the past we had the interest income and cost from the whole operation below EBITS. As the Mercado Pago business evolved from being a wallet to being more of a digital banking business, a lot of the business was the float that we had on that particular operation which we brought above or within EBITS right now. So we now recognize the interest that we generate as revenue and the cost that we generate as cost of goods sold. And that's a better reflection, better reporting in terms of the nature of our business. And in fact, this is the way we have been managing our business for quite a while. So I think this is an improvement in terms of disclosures and this is the reason why we did this at this point.
spk04: Building on Martin's comment, definitely the time value of money has been an integral part of how we price our fintech services, everything we do from acquiring, from when we pay sellers and even more so now with a larger offering in terms of fintech services. So we believe that this reflects better how we look at the business and how this business is really a financial business. With regard to the second question about Mexico and our strategy, our strategy is to be the largest fintech in Mexico. We will offer a full-fledged solution of products from acquiring on the one hand to fintech services on the other one. There we, for a long time now, we have been able to offer our wallet and on top of that we have been doing credit for several years and a debit card for several years. Last year, three quarters ago, we launched our credit card which is growing very strongly. And we work together with a third party to offer a remunerated account, which is basically a money market, but where money is available 24-7 in the Mercado Paiwa account. So we have a full offering and we believe there's a huge opportunity that Mexico right now is going through a transformation similar to the one the market underwent in Brazil in the last five, seven or ten years where financial inclusion will increase a lot, with access to credit will increase a lot and we have a huge opportunity to be the leaders in this market.
spk09: Okay, thank you very much. This is clear. Any plans for a potential upgrade in your license in Mexico?
spk08: Yeah, today
spk04: we are working with an ISPA license and we are able to do what we want to do. We regularly re-evaluate whether in the future we might need a different license and if so, once we do anything, we will let you know.
spk09: Okay, thank you.
spk07: And one moment for our next question. As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, press star 1-1 on your phone to get into the queue. Our next question comes from Jamie Friedman with Susquehanna International Group.
spk15: Hi, good evening. I wanted to ask a question about Argentina. So it looked like FX neutral growth in Argentina came in slower than inflation and I think in your prepared remarks, you attributed that to reduce consumer demand. So I'm just trying to gauge that. Is that trend something that you are contemplating to continue? Because in the past, the pattern's been that Argentina revenue would consistently outgrow inflation. So is this a new reality that we need to consider?
spk09: Hi, it's Martin here. I think we can
spk19: talk about this quarter in which we saw a recession in Argentina, slowdown in consumption. As you clearly mentioned, growth was high in nominal terms but low inflation. And in fact, in dollar terms, it was also a decrease from last year. We are monitoring the situation in the country and we'll deal with the macro situation as it goes through in the year. But as I mentioned earlier, we operate a marketplace that is very resilient to these type of situations. We have seen situations like this in the past, not only in Argentina but in other markets and will come out strong. We have a very strong brand and will continue to manage the country. As it is on the fintech side of the business, as I mentioned earlier, we are performing extremely well in Argentina given the market conditions. On the commerce side, we are outperforming the general retail industry.
spk04: Let me compliment on the fintech side. I'd say we have seen some deceleration in the point of business. However, the QR code, the wallet continues to go very strongly and above inflation. We have been cautious on the credit side.
spk15: If I could just follow up switching gears on the slide 18. I apologize if you answered this, I might have missed it. The gross margin compression of .9% related to the change in shipping conditions, terms and conditions,
spk08: what was that about?
spk09: I think that's the fact that the margin is
spk19: decreased because we have higher rates. What we tried to do in that page is try to normalize the change that we included to better understand the results of this quarter. Because we had roughly $300 million more revenues that we would have had had not made this change, that effectively increases the denominator so that it reduces the margin and this is what we adjusted there.
spk15: To
spk09: make it comfortable.
spk08: Sure.
spk07: This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Martín de los Santos, CFO.
spk19: Thanks everybody for joining. As we mentioned, we are very excited about the first quarter of our 25th year, particularly with the results that we saw in Mexico and Brazil, which we saw tremendous growth both in terms of fintech and commerce, with also improving profitability. As we mentioned, the heavy margin of Brazil and Mexico combined double year on year and that's the result of the commerce business doing very well in terms of ad shipping efficiencies. They won't be business that continues to improve profitability. And then the fintech business in Brazil and Mexico is also thriving, growing credit portfolio, growing very nicely and improving profitability as well as acquiring business performance extremely well. And then as we continue to grow, we also gain operational leverage that is going through our P&L. As we mentioned on the bottom line in terms of net income, very strong net income growth year on year. So again, very excited about the results and looking forward to talking to you next quarter.
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