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Operator
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MKS Instruments third quarter 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, David Rizek.
David Rizek
Good morning, everyone. I am David Rizek, Vice President of Investor Relations, and I am joined this morning by John Lee, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Seth Bagshaw, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Yesterday, after market close, we released our financial results for the third quarter of 2023, which are posted to our investor website at investor.mks.com. As a reminder, various remarks about future expectations, plans, and prospects for MKS-comprised forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in yesterday's press release and in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2022. These statements represent the company's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing the company's estimates or views as of any date subsequent to today and the company displays any obligation to update these statements. During the call, we will be discussing various financial measures. Unless otherwise noted, all references to combined company financial measures reflect the combined results of MCAS and Autotech Limited, which MCAS acquired on August 17, 2022. Also, unless otherwise noted, all income statement related financial measures will be non-GAAP other than revenue. Please refer to our press release and the presentation materials posted to our investor website for information regarding our combined company results, non-GAAP financial results, and a reconciliation of our GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. For a detailed breakout of reported and combined company revenues by NMARK and N-Division, please visit our investor website. Now, I'll turn the call over to John.
David Rizek
Thanks, David. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Before I discuss our third quarter results and key business trends, I'd like to touch on the devastating violence that has occurred in the Middle East over the past month. There's simply no words that can describe the events that have unfolded, and our primary concern is the health and safety of our employees and their families in the region. As some of you may know, MCAS has three facilities in Israel that manufacture some of our controls, optics, and photonics solutions, which all remain operational. The dedication and resilience of our Israeli team is unmatched, and we hope for a return to peace quickly. Turning to our third quarter results. MCAS delivered strong profitability despite continued softness in end market demand. We reported revenue of $932 million, adjusted EBITDA of $235 million, and net earnings per diluted share of $1.46. Revenue from our semiconductor market was in line with our expectations, as the cyclical downturn in industry memory spending continued. As expected, demand for our critical vacuum subsystems for deposition and edge remained muted. However, demand for our photonics solutions for lithography, metrology, and inspection continues to be resilient. Looking to the fourth quarter, we expect revenue from our semiconductor market to decline sequentially due to the continued weakness in industry memory spending, particularly for NAND, which is at a historically low level and where leading-edge tools contain relatively more MCAS content. We also expect continued inventory workdowns at key customers as they adjust for current demand. The semi-market will have its cycles, but the secular growth drivers over the long term are quite clear. The connected world will need more semiconductors with enhanced capabilities, creating the need for miniaturization and increased complexity. MCAS is actively engaged with customers across a broad range of technology inflections. Examples include next-generation power solutions for advanced etch applications, optical subsystems for lithography, metrology, and inspection, and precision motion for advanced bonding processes that enable applications such as high bandwidth memory. We pride ourselves on investing during a downturn to position us to be even stronger in the next upturn. That is the exact playbook we have deployed over the past 60 plus years, enabling us to become a foundational supplier to the semiconductor industry with number one or number two segment share across more categories of critical subsystems than anyone else in the industry. Turning to our electronics and packaging market, revenue grew sequentially and slightly better than expected due to normal seasonality associated with the consumer electronics market, as well as slightly higher PCB and packaged substrate production ahead of the Golden Week holidays in Asia in the beginning of the fourth quarter. I'm pleased to announce that we also shipped a number of HDI laser systems to the Low Earth Orbit, or LEO, satellite communications space. We are the process tool record for multiple customers serving the LEO space due to the unique capabilities of our proprietary HDI VIA drilling technology, which enables increased productivity for one of the industry's fast-emerging applications. This is a validation of our technology leadership and our unique ability to solve the hardest problems, establishing us as a key supplier to the leading PCB manufacturers. In addition, we also deliver our proprietary chemistry and plating equipment to this market, which highlights opportunities for an integrated approach. Looking to the fourth quarter, we expect revenue from our electronics and packaging market to be down sequentially, primarily due to seasonally softened chemistry utilization, as well as the lumpy nature of our equipment sales. We are seeing some signs of stabilization in the PC and smartphone markets. Within the server market, there is continued strength in the package substrate market for AI applications, but this is more than offset by broader softness in non-AI server applications. Turning to our specialty industrial market, revenue was slightly below our expectations. Overall, the business was stable across our markets, but we saw some modest weakness in solar and LED applications. We leveraged our expertise and R&D investments in our semiconductor and electronics and packaging markets to drive opportunities in our specialty industrial market. One example is the investment we have made in laser technology for advanced micromachining applications, where we see portability into specialty industrial applications such as solar and life and health sciences. Looking to the fourth quarter, we expect revenue from our specialty industrial market to be slightly down compared to third quarter levels. While demand across our end markets remains cyclically muted, we are highly engaged with customers and believe we are well positioned for the upturn. I'm proud of how our team continues to execute and deliver timely solutions for our customers while pursuing operational efficiency through tight management of discretionary costs. We have a long history of prudent cost control and financial stewardship of our business throughout various market conditions, and today is no exception. Many of you on the call are familiar with the multi-decade secular growth story of the semiconductor market. We have been and will continue to be foundational to that market. However, electronic devices of today and the future will need more than just semiconductor transistor scaling as we move into an era of multi-chip packaging or systems scaling. MCAS is uniquely positioned to enable this new era of scaling with the broadest portfolio of critical technologies across equipment, chemistry, and services. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Seth. Thank you, John. Before I cover our third quarter results, provide details on our outlook for the fourth quarter, I want to echo John's comments regarding our concern for the health and welfare of our employees in Israel. We are amazed at the dedication and fortitude of our Israeli team as they operate in extremely difficult circumstances. This is a point of reference. Revenue from our manufacturing operations in Israel in the last 12 months represented approximately 7% of our total revenue. Turning to our third quarter results, we delivered a revenue of $932 million, just above the midpoint of our guidance. As expected, we recovered substantially all remaining revenue impacted by the ransomware incident in the first quarter, which we estimated approximately $30 million. After excluding the impact of the ransomware incident recovery from the second and third quarters, our revenue grew slightly on a sequential basis. Turning to our semiconductor market, revenue was $367 million in the third quarter. After excluding the impact of the ransomware incident recovery from the second and third quarters, our semiconductor revenue was relatively flat on a sequential basis. Revenue for electronics and packaging market was $243 million, an increase of 8% sequentially. Excluding the impact of foreign exchange and platinum pass-through, third quarter revenue declined 9% on a year-over-year basis, with Q3 2022 representing combined company results. Moving to our special industrial market, revenue in the third quarter was $322 million, declining 5% sequentially. However, after excluding the impact of the ransomware incident in the second and third quarters, our special industrial revenue was relatively stable on a sequential basis. Within our specialty industrial market, sales of our general metal finishing solutions to the automotive industry were flat on a sequential basis. On a year-over-year basis, specialty industrial revenue was relatively flat, excluding the impact of the ransomware incident, foreign exchange, and plagiarism pass-through, with Q3 2022 representing combined company results. In the third quarter, overall consumables and services revenue was also consistent on a year-over-year combined company basis, including the impact of foreign exchange and palladium pass-through, and comprise 42% of our total revenue. We expect insurable and services revenue to remain a resilient source of revenue and profitability going forward. Turning to our margins, third quarter gross margin was 47.1%, a sequential increase of 20 basis points, exceeding the height of our guidance. Efficiency Factor utilization, disciplined cost management, and favorable product mix contributed to this outperformance. Third quarter operating expenses were $236 million, a sequential decrease of $7 million, and below loan of our guidance, reflecting continued disciplined cost management. Third quarter operating margin was 21.8%, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 25.2%, both exceeding our expectations, reflecting the strength in our operating model. Our integration with AdTech continues to progress very well. We remain on track to achieve our cost-to-energy target of $55 million within 18 to 36 months post-close. We exited the third quarter achieving annualized synergies of nearly $45 million. Net interest expense in the third quarter was $84 million, felt to be in line with our expectations. Our tax rate in the third quarter was 14%, favorable to our expectations and reflective of the success of certain tax planning initiatives following the closing of the ATT&CK acquisition. As a result of these efforts, we now expect full-year 2023 tax rate to be 19%. Looking beyond the fourth quarter, we believe a low 20% tax rate is the right way to think about it at this time. We expect to provide a more formal update to our long-term tax rate in our fourth quarter earnings call. Net earnings for the third quarter were $98 million, or $1.46 per diluted share. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, we actually had a third quarter with more than $1.3 billion of liquidity, including cash and short-term investments of $860 million, and an under-run revolving credit facility of $500 million. The cash position represents an increase of $758 million at the end of the second quarter. Free cash flow in the quarter was $142 million, primarily a result of strong cost control and sequential improvement in working capital. We exited the third quarter with gross debt of $5 billion. In October, we had a voluntary debt prepayment of $100 million, which consisted with our strategy of deleveraging our balance sheet. Also in the current quarter, we successfully completed a repricing by $3.6 billion Secure Trunch B term loan. The repricing reduced the spread on our term loan from SOFR plus 275 basis points to SOFR plus 250 basis points and also eliminated the credit spread adjustment with respect to our term loan, which was 10 basis points at the time of the repricing. This repricing completed despite challenging market conditions is consistent with our long-term practice of proactively managing our leverage and demonstrates the confidence lenders have in our operating model. At current rates, we estimate the combination of the repricing and prepayment will reduce our annualized interest expense by approximately $19 million. Our net leverage ratio exiting the third quarter was 4.6 times based on a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. Our net leverage, as defined in our credit agreement, includes several other adjustments and was 4.2 times exiting the third quarter. Consistent with the prior quarter, we made a dividend payment of $15 million or 22 cents per share. I'll now turn to a fourth quarter outlook. We expect fourth quarter revenue $840 million plus or minus $40 million. By end market, our outlook is as follows. Revenue from a semiconductor market of $320 million plus or minus $15 million, revenue from electronics and packaging market of $205 million, plus or minus $10 million, and revenue from a specialty industrial market of $315 million, plus or minus $15 million. Based on the midpoint of our guidance, we now expect revenue in the second half of 2023 to be slightly lower than the first half, compared to our prior expectation that it would be slightly higher than the first half. primarily due to our expectation of short-term customer inventory workdowns in our semiconductor market based on anticipated product mix and revenue levels we estimate fourth quarter gross margin of 45.5 percent plus or minus one percentage point we expect offering expenses of 235 million dollars plus or minus five million dollars relatively consistent with third quarter levels For the fourth quarter, we estimate adjusted EBITDA of $185 million, plus or minus $20 million. For the fourth quarter, net interest expense is expected to be $80 million, reflecting current interest rates, as well as our recent successful Toronto Speed Term Loan repricing and voluntary debt prepayment. Our tax rate is expected to be 16% for the fourth quarter, consistent with an updated full-year 2023 tax rate outlook of 19% that I mentioned earlier. Given these assumptions, we expect fourth quarter net earnings of $0.85 per diluted share, plus or minus $0.27. In closing, we executed very well in maintaining profitability and generating solid cash flow despite the cyclical softness in our end markets. These are things we can't control. We remain confident in long-term secular growth opportunities across our portfolio. When the market does bounce back, we are well-positioned to emerge from the current environment even stronger than we were going in. With that, I'll turn it back to the operator for Q&A.
Operator
Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. We will now conduct the question and answer session. If you'd like to withdraw your question at any time, please press star 11 again. please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. The first question comes from Krish Sankar at TD Cowan. Krish, your line is live.
Sankar
Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking my question. I have two of them. John, on the first one, you know, I understand your semi-revenues are worse than WFE, which happens during a cyclical downturn. It also probably looks like, you know, a tad lower than some of your peers. So I'm curious. Is it purely because of your Depeche exposure or is there something else going on on the market share front and then add a follow-up?
David Rizek
Yeah, Kanish, thanks for the question. I think it's pretty simple. We are an enabler for vertical NAND. I think we've talked about that in the past. And as I think we've heard and you've heard from many of our customers, NAND is one of the WFE segments that's really particularly down. And so our exposure there and therefore our enablement there is really what's causing us to be slightly worse than maybe some of our peers. But I want to remind everybody, we love being an enabler for VNAND in the industry with our RF power solutions. And, of course, I don't think anybody would say VNAND won't come back. It's certainly in a cyclical downturn. But when it comes back, we'll be enjoying that market leadership again.
Sankar
Got it, got it. Thanks, sir. And then I just wanted to follow up on some of the advanced packaging. You know, you highlighted, you know, AdvoTech exposure there. But it looks like AdvoTech as a percentage of revenue has really kind of been in this low 30% range for the last couple of quarters. Are you not seeing any of the benefits from advanced packaging, or is it too early for that?
David Rizek
Yeah, I think it's early days, Krish. You know, I think one of the things we talk about is packaged substrates. This is the advanced packaging that we've talked about. Lots of interest, lots of acceleration there, especially in high-performance computing. And so we're seeing a lot of that interest, but that's still a relatively small percentage, but we expect that to grow as a percentage of advanced packaging and packaging overall. Got it. Thanks, John. Thanks, Krish.
Operator
As a reminder, to ask a question, you'll just need to press CR11 on your telephone, and wait for your name to be announced. Also, if you could limit to one question and one follow-up, that will be appreciated. Please stand by for the next question. Next question comes from Joe Katroki at Wells Fargo. Joe, your line is open.
Joe Katroki
Yeah, thanks for taking the questions. It looks like your chemical revenue was up nicely sequentially in the quarter. Wondering if How much of that is just normal seasonality or maybe some past year with the palladium costs?
David Rizek
Yeah, Joe, certainly part of it was seasonality, but it was a little better than we expected, even taking into account seasonality. Now, as we've said in our prepared remarks, there was a little bit of pull-in because of the holiday week in the first quarter of Q4, but it was just a little better, and so we're happy to see that.
Joe Katroki
Got it. And then maybe on the semi side, You know, one of your peers has talked about preparing for a kind of flattish 2024 and talking to their customers, I guess. Curious how you're thinking about that and maybe, you know, in the context you did talk about NAN being definitely weaker, how you're thinking about the setup in the next year?
David Rizek
Yeah, obviously, we read the same things you guys do, and the visibility is poor for the industry right now. I think what we're preparing for is to continue supporting our customers in R&D so that when it comes back, we will be enjoying an even stronger position. And in the meantime, we're watching costs very closely, as you can see from our numbers. I think the industry is kind of looking at first half as relatively muted, kind of the same as kind of the second half of 23%. And then I think after that, I think there's varying opinions. So, you know, that's what I would say is that we're reading the same kind of things you are. And it looks pretty flat for the next few quarters to us as well.
Joe Katroki
Thank you.
David Rizek
Thanks, Joe.
Operator
Please stand by for the next question. The next question comes from Steve Barger at KeyBank Capital Markets. Steve, your line is live.
Steve Barger
Thanks. John, I think we all understand this has been a really challenging cycle, but the stock is obviously acting like there are bigger risks and problems here. So can you just discuss again why you're confident MKS is better with ATC in the portfolio and maybe further discuss just how you see this playing out in coming quarters and years?
David Rizek
Yeah, Steve, thanks for the question. So, you know, we've talked about advanced packaging and we've talked about how critical that's going to be. to enable the next generation of electronics. So as I said in my prior remarks, it's no longer that just the semiconductor will enable advanced electronics. I think everybody's talking about chiplet packaging or systems packaging. If we were going to continue as an industry pushing the concept, the economic concept of Moore's Law. So we love having Adatech as part of our portfolio. There's no other company that has market leadership in packaging, chemistry, and the equipment. That's Adatech. as well as market leadership in a broad set of technologies in semiconductor critical subsystems, as we've talked about in the past, that enables, you know, depth and etch, as well as lithography, metrology, and inspection. So we firmly believe that the combination of both really sets up MCAS uniquely for the future.
Steve Barger
And can you just talk about what the feedback has been from customers as you go out and maybe how you see you know, the CapEx cycle next year and what you think that can translate into for MK?
David Rizek
Well, you know, customers are certainly very receptive to the concept of, you know, MKS bringing more solutions to them that include lasers as well as chemistry equipment and then other types of, you know, packaging solutions. In terms of CapEx, I think that's, you know, similar to Joe's question. It's going to be something that seems a bit muted and For packaging, though, I think next year, if things stabilize, the compares will be good. But your guess is as good as mine as to how much it comes back. But I would also comment that the packaging market for us is less cyclical. There are cycles for sure, but the amplitude is much less than semi-capex, as you've seen in our numbers.
Steve Barger
Got it. And Seth, can I squeeze in a quick one? Sorry if I missed it. Did you talk about free cash flow in 4Q, and can we expect incremental debt pay down in the remainder of this year?
David Rizek
Yeah, we didn't disclose or give guidance on free cash flow in Q4. We saw Q3 was quite strong, by the way, Steve, and that's our goal going forward to drive that free cash flow up. So it'll depend on working capital needs, but we didn't really give that type of guidance in the fourth quarter. To turn the debt pay down, we have done a lot of pulling of levers, as you saw in prepared remarks. We did $100 million in October. We had a plenty lever aggressively going forward, and that'll roll out as the year progresses. We did the repricing. That took $11 million off the table. So that's, again, a lever we pulled. With Adatec, we've driven the tax rate down long-term as well. That's a big value driver. And then the cost synergies is $55 million one year in. you know, things we can control and prepare remarks. We've actually done a lot already in a short period of time. There's more opportunity going forward as well. And that'll roll out. There's no change in our philosophy to, you know, de-lever, drive free cash flow, drive the integration activities, which we've done very well.
Steve Barger
Appreciate the time. Thanks. Yep. Yep. Thanks, Dave.
Operator
One moment for our next question. And the next question comes from Jim Ricciuti at Needham & Company. Your line is open.
Jim Ricciuti
Thank you. I wanted to focus on the photonics solutions portion of the semi-business, which appears to be holding up better. And John, maybe you could talk to what your visibility, your line of sight in that area of the business. Are you any more optimistic that that portion of the business is able to hold up in this cyclical downturn?
David Rizek
Yeah, Jim, I think we do believe that there is less cyclicality in the lithography, metrology, inspection part of the semi-business, and we've seen that play out over multiple quarters. You know, we're in constant contact with those key customers, and you can see what they say publicly about their revenue over the next several quarters as well. So we believe that that's really just an area of semi that's just much more consistent than certainly the debt batch part. So that's our visibility right now, and that's our belief that it will continue.
Jim Ricciuti
And on the specialty industrial, obviously it's a newer area for you, and are you more concerned now about the overall macro environment potentially impacting that portion of the business as we enter 2024? In other words, are you any more concerned about the near-term outlook in that area of the business?
David Rizek
Yeah, Jim, I mean, what we've seen in the past is that the industrial part has been pretty steady, our revenue in it. But we're always watching some of the key markets, such as automotive, and that's why we made the comment about automotive in our prepared remarks. But as I said in the past, industrials are certainly less applicable than the semi-capx world. Also a comment that much of our industrial revenue is utilization-dependent chemistry, so that adds a little more stability to it. But to your point, Jim, we're always watching the macro environment to see how that may or may not affect our industrial business.
Jim Ricciuti
I'll just lob one more in. I was just wondering on geo, you seem to be getting some traction. How should we be thinking about the potential for that to be a bigger contributor in the near term?
David Rizek
Yeah, I think what we talked about at this call was this low Earth orbit application, the PCBs that are needed to support that both on the satellites as well as the ground stations. And that had a technology requirement that our tool was uniquely positioned to deliver on that. So that's just another proof point of the technology that we've developed I think that we continue to make progress in other areas as well. And so we just wanted to point out that we continue to get signs that what we've developed and the technology there is really unique.
Jim Ricciuti
Thank you. Thanks, Jim.
Operator
One moment for our next question. The next question comes from Sydney Ho at Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Sidney
Great. Thank you. Good morning. I'm not trying to ask for specific guidance for next year. How are you thinking about the revenue trajectory for each segment in 2024? Do you think there will be another step down in the first half in any of the segments, whether it's cyclically or seasonally? It sounds like you think semis will be flattish for a few quarters, but how about the other segments? And what kind of visibility do you have right now? Any color by segment or even by end market will be great.
David Rizek
Yeah, thanks, Sydney. So, yeah, I think we talked about semi, and we're kind of bouncing on the bottom, as we said. I would say specialty industrials has just held up and been very steady for this whole duration of the semi downturn. So that's kind of the expectation. Electronics and packaging did see some cyclicality, as you've seen in the quarter. There is some seasonality to it as well, but certainly less cyclical in terms of amplitude than the semi business. and it's much more utilization dependent. So I think that we watch the macro demands for PCs and servers and all that, and that drives some of that electronics and packaging business. So I think the semi-recovery and electronics and packaging recovery may go hand-in-hand, but the amplitudes of those are much different, very different between the two markets.
Sidney
Okay, that's fair. Now, my second question is, you guys have a good track record of the leveraging after an acquisition. Given the sluggish demand, what is a realistic gross leverage ratio we should be expecting by the end of calendar 24? And how should we think about the levers other than waiting for the business to recover? Thank you.
David Rizek
Yeah, thanks, Sidney. Yeah, so we kind of asked for guidance looking out in 24, so probably can't give you that type of details. But, you know... You know, obviously a Q3 kind of gives you a snapshot at sort of those revenue levels, what type of cash flow comes off the business. So you've got to have that view in mind. As John mentioned, we think semi is kind of at the trough levels or at least low levels for sure, historically speaking, certainly in the NAND environment. So we think that'll over time, you know, be an opportunity for us. But I would say, you know, fundamentally, it will be revenue driven. We will work hard on working capital efficiency. We think we have more opportunity in certain areas that we're working on pretty hard right now. But I would say it's really, you know, revenue, profitability driven, and then working capital management. And you saw in the Q3 results, we worked very hard to deliver really, you know, quite strong results given the environment. So I think those are things I would focus on if things were kind of working pretty hard. And that's been our playbook, historically speaking.
Sidney
Okay, thank you.
David Rizek
Yep, thanks, Cindy.
Operator
I am showing no further questions at this time, so this concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to David Rizek with closing remarks.
David Rizek
Thank you for joining us today, and for your interest in MKS, operator, you may close the call, please.
Operator
Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect.
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