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spk08: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Market Access second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during that time, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded on August 6th, 2024. I would now like to turn the call over to Steve Davidson, head of investor relations at Market Access. Please go ahead, sir.
spk09: Good morning and welcome to the Market Access second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. For the call, Chris Kencanon, chief executive officer, will provide you with a strategic update on the company. Rich Shipman, global head of trading solutions, will update you on the performance of our markets this quarter. And then Eileen Fissel Beeler, chief financial officer, will review the financial results. Before I turn the call over to Chris, let me remind you that today's call may include forward-looking statements. These statements represent the company's belief regarding future events that by their nature are uncertain. The company's actual results and financial condition may differ materially from what is indicated in those forward-looking statements. For a discussion of some of the risks and factors that could affect the company's future results, please see the description of risk factors in our annual report on form 10K for the year ended December 31st, 2023. I would also direct you to read the forward-looking statement disclaimer in our quarterly earnings release, which was issued earlier this morning and is now available on our website. Now let me turn the call over to Chris.
spk06: Good morning and thank you for joining us to review our second quarter results. Turning to slide three of my strategic update, we delivered 10% total revenue growth, including the benefit of the pragma acquisition and diluted earnings per share was $1.72. We continued to execute our strategy this quarter and delivered solid growth in commission revenue across most credit products, with strong revenue growth in our international product areas. We continued to be disciplined around our expense management with total operating expenses increasing 12%, including the impact of pragma. We released our July trading metrics yesterday, which reflected continued solid growth in our credit complex across most product areas. While our US credit estimated market share continues to disappoint, we believe that our core RF business, underpinned by our different rates, liquidity and open trading, reflects our continued leadership in the institutional client to dealer E-trading space. We have a clear strategy to return to market share growth through a global rollout of Expro. We are also pleased that we are continuing to grow our market share in the global credit E-trading space outside of US credit. I would like to welcome Eileen to her first earnings call as CFO. In the short time that she has been here, she has already made a significant impact on the business. And more broadly, we have made several key hires recently, including a new head of US sales, a new head of global emerging markets and a new head of client solutions. All great hires that significantly enhance the already deep bench strength at market access. We have always guided investors to look at long-term trends and not read too much into the month to month operations in our estimated market share, as we saw in July. Slide four lays out our strategic priorities to grow market share. The fastest growing segments of US high grade trades year to date have been portfolio trading and dealer to dealer trading, up 94% and 31% respectively. Client to dealer trading is only up 13%. Our estimated share in the dealer to dealer segment is down slightly, and we are allocating more resources to attack this segment with expanded dealer trading solutions. While our client to dealer segment performs much better in periods of volatility, as we have seen over the last few days, we have a clear strategy to reignite growth in our client to dealer business by capturing more share in portfolio trading and larger trade sizes. This strategy will be executed through our modernized, easy to navigate user interface, X-Pro, which we have been rolling out in stages across products and protocols for our clients. X-Pro is enabled by our proprietary pre-trade data and analytics designed to help traders achieve better trading outcomes. Furthermore, X-Pro is built on cloud-based technology, so it is easy to make changes and introduce new features and functionality in a matter of weeks. With X-Pro, we are enhancing our portfolio trading solution, giving clients access to our full suite of automation and algal tools to improve workflows, and building out our high touch strategy to attack larger trade sizes with unique AI-powered data. As you can see on the slide, we have already completed a number of important steps in our X-Pro rollout over the last several quarters. The next step for our high touch strategy is to enhance our PT offering with the launch of our global multi-product portfolio trading solution. We are also launching our AI dealer selection tool, which is a smart counterparty selection tool that predicts which counterparty is most likely to win a trade. Last, we are rounding out our custom algos with the launch of our new take algo, which will be available to both clients and dealers. Our announcement yesterday with ICE is a great example of how we are connecting to external platforms to aggregate available liquidity, leveraging the deep liquidity across both platforms. We are opening up our network for clients in order to provide them with the tools and trading options they need to achieve their trading objective. Our goal is to create an interoperable marketplace that provides our clients access to robust liquidity through protocol agnostic solutions. Slide five highlights the multiple cylinders that drive our growth across regions and across products. While our US credit volumes have not been where we would like, we truly are a multi-dimensional growth story as the largest global network for e-trading. Emerging markets is a perfect example of this multi-dimensional growth story, with growth across all regions as shown on this slide. Slide six provides more detail on the strength of our expanding emerging markets franchise. Our emerging markets commission revenue increased 22% with EM trades eligible estimated market share of 26%. And we are seeing strong growth in emerging markets trading activity across regions, with record LATAM and APAC emerging markets trading volume of 27% and 35% respectively. Over the past year, we have experienced a significant expansion of activity across local markets trading. The EM local markets are the largest opportunity in EM from an addressable market perspective and involve larger trade sizes because these markets are mostly rates focused. The top five local currencies represented 58% of local markets trading volume on a constant currency basis, down from 63% reflecting the increasing breadth of local currencies traded on the platform. One of our fastest growing protocols is request for market or RFM, which is perfectly suited for local markets trading where our clients are trading in larger sizes with limited trading data. We generated record local markets RFM activity in the quarter of 45%, which also drove our growth in block trading in local markets. We are very excited about the emerging markets opportunity ahead of us, which we believe is still in very early stages of electronification. Slide seven highlights our strategic priorities that will drive our future success. We are focused on growing our fixed income trading revenue, enhancing our client network experience, delivering innovative technology and data solutions and driving a high performance team culture. It is important to note that our use of AI is a key ingredient across these strategic priorities. In our data business, for example, AI powers CP+, enabling our automation and algo solutions. In addition, AI also helps to power our little platform, which was part of our pragma acquisition. Our AI enabled tradeability data designed to provide investors with indicative market depth is integral to our portfolio trading tool that helps clients make portfolio selection decisions. And finally, our AI driven dealer selection tool is a key component of our high touch strategy that targets block size trading with dealers. Now let me turn the call over to Rich to provide you with an update on our markets.
spk14: Thanks, Chris. On slide nine, we highlight the expansion of our trading business across geographies, products and protocols. We generated strong growth in international client trade volume and trade count in the second quarter. Trade volume was up 12% versus last year with a three year CAGR of 12%. Trade count was up 14% versus last year with a three year CAGR of 22%. A key driver of this strength was strong growth in emerging markets trading ADV up 23% year over year, driven by a 26% increase in hard currency and a 17% increase in local currency trading ADVs. We are also seeing strong contributions from growing client segments, including hedge funds, systematic funds, dealer initiated flow and private banks. We generated 230 billion in trading volume, up 25% from these important client segments, which now represent 26% of our total credit trading volume, up from 24%. We are also seeing strong product diversification in municipal bonds with record estimated market share of .4% up from .4% in the prior year. We expect the soon to be available additional liquidity from ICE TMC to support further market share growth. We now have the top 10 largest municipal dealers signed up for tax exempt and taxable trading on our platform. Slide 10 provides an update on open trading at our market leading all to all liquidity pool. Open trading ADV was 4 billion and share of total credit volume was 34% in line with the prior year. Open trading generated strong growth in trade count up 18% from the prior year. Hedge fund trade activity has continued to expand on our platform with ADV of 1.6 billion in the quarter, up 28% from the prior year. A record 204 hedge funds provided liquidity through open trading in the quarter, a 5% increase from the prior year. Lower volatility and lower price dispersion in the market continues to reduce the price improvement opportunity in open trading as shown on the lower left of this slide. Open trading continues to be the largest single source of secondary liquidity in the US credit markets driven by our diverse liquidity pool. Adoption of our automation suite of products continues to grow as shown on slide 11. We experienced another quarter of strong growth in automation trade volume and record trade count with three year CAGRs of 29% and 39% respectively and a record 248 active automation client firms. Automation trade volume now represents 10% of our total credit volume and a record 27% of total credit trade count. There were 10 million algo responses from dealers and increase of 38% year over year. Now let me turn the call over to Eileen to review our financial performance.
spk07: Thank you, Rich, and thank you, Chris, for those kind remarks. I cannot be more excited about the opportunity ahead for market access. Turning to our results, on slide 13, we provide a summary of our second quarter financials. We delivered revenue of 198 million, up 10% from the prior year. These results include 8 million from the pragma acquisition. Looking at each of our revenue lines in terms, this was the second highest level of quarterly commission revenue generation with only one Q24 being higher for commission revenue. Record information services revenue of 13 million was up 8%. The increase is driven by new contacts as we continue to experience strong adoption across our data product suite, especially CP+. Post-trade services revenue of 10 million was up 10%. The largest driver of other income was an increase of interest income due to the favorable interest rate environment, which contributed 6 million of interest income across our investment portfolio and cash holdings, up from 5 million. This was partially offset by a 1 million net foreign currency transaction loss. The effective tax rate was 24.8%, and we reported diluted earnings per share of $1.72. On slide 14, we provide more detail on our commission revenue and our fee capture. Total commission revenue was 172 million, representing an increase of 13 million, or 8% for the quarter. The increase in credit commission revenue was due to solid growth across emerging markets of 22%, US high grade of 4%, and Eurobonds of 11%. Growth across these product areas was partially offset by lower estimated market share in high yields. The reduction in total credit fee capture from the prior year was driven principally by product and protocol mix, specifically lower high yield activity and increased portfolio trading. The decline in fixed distribution fees was driven principally by the consolidation of two global bank trading desk operations, and migrations to variable fee plans, partially offset by the addition of new dealer fixed fee plans. Turning to slide 15, we provide a summary of our operating expenses. Second quarter operating expenses of 116 million included 8 million from Pragma. We are well underway in integrating the high performing Pragma technologists into the DNA of our organization, and we are leveraging their expertise to drive many of our strategic priorities that Chris highlighted earlier. Based on the timing of expenses through the first half of the year, and the incremental costs we're expecting in the back half of the year, we now expect our full year 2024 expenses to come in slightly below the low end of the previously stated range, 480 to 500 million. On slide 16, we provide an update on our capital management and cashflow. Today, we are announcing that our board has approved a new share repurchase program of 200 million. This is in addition to the 50 million that remains under our existing share repurchase program for a total current aggregate outstanding authorization of 250 million. We repurchased 243,000 shares for a total of $50 million year to date through July 2024. The newborn authorization reflects the board's confidence in the performance and outlook of the company, and is a clear indicator of the company's willingness to repurchase shares more opportunistically, going beyond just offsetting annual dilution from stock-based compensation. During the trailing 12 months, as of second quarter 2024, we paid out approximately 59% of our net income through quarterly dividends and share repurchases. We had no outstanding borrowings under the credit facilities. The balance sheet continues to be strong, with cash, cash equivalents, and corporate bond and US Treasury investments tolling 559 million as of June 30th. We generated 298 million in free cashflow over the trailing 12 months, as an increase of about 21% over last quarter. We believe we are striking the right balance of investing to drive future growth while at the same time being disciplined stewards of capital. Now, let me turn the call back to Chris for his closing comments.
spk06: Thanks Eileen. In summary on slide 17, we continued to execute our growth strategy and delivered solid financial performance in the second quarter. We have seen an increase in market volumes and the velocity of trading is trending up. These factors combined with the increased potential for rate cuts in 2024, and the recent increase in volatility are all indicators of an improving macro backdrop for us. We are continuing the rollout of Expro by extending the platform to our global client base and across most products. We are executing our plan to grow market share, our client franchise continues to expand, and our strong geographic product and protocol diversification continues to drive growth. Last, we are well positioned to deliver higher levels of growth in the coming quarters. Now, we would be happy to open the line for your questions.
spk08: At this time, we will take your questions. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. If you are dialed in and listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. We kindly ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from the line of Chris Allen with Citigroup, please go ahead.
spk13: Yeah, morning everyone, thanks for taking the question. I want to dig in a little bit on the ICE deal, just to provide any color just in terms of how it came about, any color on the benefits of connecting to what is largely a retail oriental liquidity pool on the other side. And then you, Chris, you referred to connecting to other liquidity pools of your algo suite. Is that necessary to really flourish and any update just in terms of the opportunity to connect there, is that really a possibility moving forward?
spk06: Sure, thanks Chris. First, yeah, we're very excited about the ICE announcement. Just a little bit of backdrop, we have a long-standing relationship with ICE around data. We purchase data from ICE and we sell some data to ICE. Separately with the recent acquisition of Pragma, Pragma had an existing technology relationship with the NYC owned by ICE. So again, just a very strong relationship there. And really the design of this partnership came out of the request of clients, clients that see liquidity in both our destination in RFQ, but also on the ICE platform. You have two leading platforms that are connecting their liquidity to the benefit of clients. So it's a very exciting really response to client needs. As you mentioned, it is a shift in strategy here at Market Access. We are opening up our network to external destinations, which is a unique shift in strategy. We have said in the opening remarks and on prior calls that we are protocol agnostic. We wanna find the right protocols both internally and externally for our clients needs. And that's really what we're answering here. We are leveraging our institutional distribution and we see the benefits of ICE's very strong retail and private client distribution. So putting those two liquidity pools together is really an important benefit for both our clients as well as ICE's strong distribution. Rich, do you wanna add to the?
spk14: Yeah, yeah, thanks Chris. So yeah, we're really excited about this one because it's complimentary liquidity pools. So it's a great way for us to bring some of that more odd lot liquidity that's a specialty for ICE TMC to our institutional clients. And as Chris said, we heard from them that our clients that they love our institutional workflow, the ability to RFQ and do lists and have it processed very efficiently back into their systems, but they wanted to get the odd lot and what we call micro lot liquidity, especially under a hundred bonds in size that TMC is really a specialist in. So this allows us to bring it all together for our clients through open trading. So they don't have to do anything different. They don't have to go anywhere else. They just put their inquiries into our system, their orders the way they always have, but now they get access to this expanded liquidity pool. So it's a great combination. It'll be interesting in corporates as well. I mean, that's of course a much stronger area for us, but as we have introduced investment grade trading on price, which is very attractive to private banks, this is another area where some of that retail liquidity can flow through to our institutional clients.
spk06: And Chris, just to respond to the second half of your question around algo solutions and accessing additional liquidity destinations. With the acquisition of pragma, we now have the technology and the wherewithal to add to algos, both our internal destinations and internal protocols as well as external. So this does open up that opportunity to have available for our clients a variety of protocols and a variety of both internal and external destinations through the algo technology.
spk13: Thanks guys, I'll bring it to you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Mollet with Piper Sandler, please go ahead.
spk15: Yeah, good morning, thanks for taking the question. So you touched on a little bit in your opening remarks, but in the last few days, we've seen spreads widen out and yield curve dynamics look like they're becoming a little more favorable for you guys. So could you maybe just talk about what you've seen over the last few days in terms of client engagement, protocol utilization, and any expectations you have about whether this is sustainable and how it's expected to impact you, thanks.
spk06: Sure, well, I'll start by saying when you walk through the desert and you see an oasis of volatility, you're suddenly very excited. But three days is still a little bit too early to predict a trend. We have seen certainly positive trends across the platform during the three days, so we are excited about that. You know, there's obviously, we've seen positive activity among certain participants, particularly our ETF market makers, we've seen their activities pick up. If you look at just the overall activity of fixed income ETFs in the market, you know, you saw HYG go from an average of 30 million shares a day to over 100 million shares a day. So certainly positive trends and LQD also went from an average of, call it 25 million shares a day to just over 50 million shares a day. So many of the positive attributes of volatility are playing out on our platform, and we're seeing the macro backdrop improve. I would say the question is, is this sustained volatility or is it more short-term volatility that we've seen in spikes volatility in the past? I am encouraged that these are economic events driving this volatility, and you tend to have more longer term volatility play out versus something like a geopolitical driven volatility event. So certainly the rates backdrop is encouraging and the overall macro environment is encouraging, but again, we're only seeing three days of this volatility. Rich, anything to add?
spk14: Yeah, caveat to comment also with three days, and of course, you know, we looked closely yesterday about what was going on, and when you see the market getting that choppy, you know, that's where the relative importance of liquidity versus workflow, you know, starts to tip the balance. And unsurprisingly, you know, when we looked at, you know, let's just say OT numbers for yesterday, just to give some color, on a day like yesterday, we see, you know, OT up around 50% of liquidity provision and in-compact activity, IG and high yield, that's well above averages that we typically see. And I'm not gonna say that that's sustainable, you know, throughout a month, but it is indicative about what happens when you get into a higher vol environment and our clients start to think a lot more about, how do I get the best pricing on this trade? How do I make sure I get responses for what I need to trade versus, you know, am I in the most efficient workflow in doing a PT, for example? It doesn't mean PTs go away, obviously, but on a relative basis, you see this shift back to a protocol where the pricing matters a lot more. And so, it's a lot more efficient than in calm waters.
spk13: Great, thanks
spk15: for the call, that's it for me.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Dan Fannin with Jeffreys. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thanks, good morning. Was hoping you could expand on the rollout of Expro and how behavior has changed as you've been rolling us out selectively to certain subsets of clients. So, just curious as to what the change in behavior increase in velocity and or activity has been post adoption.
spk06: Thanks, Dan. Sure, we're pretty excited about the rollout of Expro. Again, we started this over a year ago, really targeting our most active traders among our largest clients, where we saw a high ticket count and they had a need for the benefit of the new technology and the workflow that it presents. We're now seeing over 60% of the trade activity from our largest clients coming through Expro. So, a very successful rollout across just traditional RFQ. The second phase of the Expro rollout was really targeting portfolio trading starting in the third quarter of last year. And now I'm happy to report that Expro is seeing, just in the second quarter, about 56% of the portfolio trades came through Expro. Again, an encouraging stat. And overall, our portfolio trading volume is up in the second quarter and continues, certainly here into July. The Expro rollout is now headed to Europe. We're launching what we call our global PT solution, which allows clients to trade global product across the platform. And it's exciting to finally have Expro in Europe and available in EM, where we're also seeing growing demand for portfolio trading across both the Euro market as well as the EM market. So, still early days for the global rollout of Expro, but very encouraging signs of what Expro is capable of. More importantly, the development cycle around the new tech is quite rapid, certainly more rapid than our legacy platform. And we're able to deliver new tech and new functionality in a much more rapid delivery, particularly given that it's a cloud-based technology with obviously additional capacity, but the turnaround for development is quite high, which allows us to address clients' needs in a much more rapid pace. So, all the benefits of Expro that we have predicted are playing out as we roll out across the globe.
spk04: Great, thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Voight with KBW, please go ahead.
spk10: Hey, good morning. Maybe just a question on the concept of moving into larger trade sizes. You have two newer initiatives here with Adaptive AutoX, which may help chopping up those blocks into smaller trade sizes. And then the high touch offering that you've been speaking about for the past quarter or so. I guess, what do you see as the bigger opportunity for helping move that block market electronic between those two initiatives near term? And how does that compare to how you view the block market evolving over the long run?
spk06: Sure, on the block market, first of all, just put it into context, over 40% of the trace market is greater than 5 million in trade size. So, it's the largest segment of the market that is still largely non-electronic. And so, solving the transition from phone and chat to an electronic solution is our goal, as we set out to roll out new tech and new products for our clients. There is actually an acceptance of moving blocks to an electronic form, but provided they replicate the current phone-based market. So, protecting from information leakage is probably the key ingredient that we hear from our clients. Our high touch solution that we're rolling out in X-Pro, really the first leg of high touch was portfolio trading with the additional pre-trade analytics that we embedded in our portfolio trading solution, but also carrying those pre-trade analytics into our high touch solution for block trade sizes. It's a much more targeted solution where you can target one or several dealers. And what we do is we enrich the platform with unique proprietary data. Two key data elements that I'd point out are, one is our AI-based dealer selection tool, which really is looking at dealer activity on our platform, dealer acts information and helping a trader decide who is more likely to not only respond, but win your request for price. The other piece of the puzzle is a new data product called CP Inquiry, which is really designed for both the size and the direction that the trader is trading. It gives real-time price information and predicts price for both your direction as well as your size. So, it's a critical ingredient to traders that are trading block size liquidity and in need of block size liquidity. Those elements are rolling out in Expro in the third quarter. So, we're excited about that new entry to attack that 40% market. That is what I'd say underserved by the electronic solutions. Separately and similar in the target is our ALGO launches. And we're now up to about 40 clients using our adaptive auto ex-ALGO solution. And you are correct, it is designed to not only help clients trade without crossing spread, but also seek liquidity in a more quiet, less market impact method by slicing your sizes down to smaller trade sizes. That is out in the market. As you suggest, it does target that block market. Rich, anything you wanna add?
spk14: Yeah, Kyle, I was just gonna add to this because you asked which one, it's really important that we pursue both of these strategies. And I think what clients gravitate to is gonna be a function of what's going on in the market. So, if the markets are relatively calm and the dealers are flush with capital and they're making markets in large size and taking down risk, then our high touch solutions through Expro where we're
spk16: giving advice
spk14: on where a client should go with those orders is a great way to trade it. But if we end up in a much choppier market and we've seen this time and again in the past where the dealers have tended to back off in terms of liquidity positioning and risk positioning, I should say. And that's a great opportunity then for clients to use our algo solutions. And it makes it very easy for them to leave a resting order in the market and wait till others, other clients and other risk takers in the market come to them, whether that's through responding to RFQs or someone engaging directly with that party. So, both solutions are being pursued and we're kind of positioning ourselves to be successful with this regardless of what the market conditions are.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Blosting with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, good morning everybody. Thanks for the question and Eileen, welcome to the call. I wanted to go back to the ICE partnership again, a little bit unusual, so let's open again maybe a little more details around it. So, can you maybe talk about some of the goals that you think this could achieve for both of your combined platforms and how economics will be split, either in terms of revenue share or however else it's structured. And I guess bigger picture, munis is still a fairly small part of the market, but are you seeing a push from clients asking you to break down the silos with any other larger liquidity pools, particularly in corporate bonds?
spk14: Thanks. Yeah, thanks Alex, it's Rich. And yeah, this was really about putting out the liquidity to make sure that clients stay with us and keep their orders here. As I mentioned earlier, they like the workflow. It's very effective for an institutional investor to come in, but the request we were getting is like, well, we don't wanna have to go to another platform to get liquidity, especially on the smallest trades. And that's where ICE TMC comes in. Now they can just come to market access and they can get all of their trades done. So for us, it was very attractive in being able to keep clients on our platform, regardless of the size that they're looking to trade. With regard to the economics, it's pretty straightforward. It's each of our platforms, we make money on the trades, open trading, transaction fees, and ICE has their fee model for when they're trading. And the respective platforms are able to collect the revenue themselves. So there's not a payment going one way or the other. It's taken out of a markup and best price wins if the level that comes back net of the fees coming across from TMC into market access, then that will be at the top of the stack. And that's where the investor will trade. And otherwise it might be coming directly from one of our liquidity providers on the system. So it's pretty straightforward when it comes to the economics. The last part was about, you asked about connecting to other venues. I'd say, we're always open to connecting when there's unique liquidity available that we can bring to our clients. That's really the driver for this. Is it going to be additive to the platform? If there's another venue that has the same liquidity sources that we already have, then there's not really much to add in that way.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Budish with Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the question. Just one for Eileen, welcome to the call. Just wondering how you're sort of thinking about balancing growth and margins. It sounds like there's a lot of growth initiatives at the same time you're trading towards the low end of your target range for OPEX, you're buying back more shares opportunistically. So how are you thinking about the priorities there and any longer term philosophical thoughts on growth versus margin expansion? Thank you.
spk07: Sure, thanks so much for the question, Benjamin. We really look to strike the right balance between everything that you're saying. Obviously, growth is incredibly important to us and you've seen us really invest for growth. You've seen that over the course of the last two years and I think you're starting to see some of the success from those investments. And some of that success actually, these are not mutually exclusive in terms of concepts. If you think about what happened with expenses, for instance, to your point this quarter, I would put those into two different categories, two different pockets of success. One of them is that we've seen some efficiencies coming through from some of those investments and you can really see that with a good example is the pragma acquisition. So that's something that we did for both growth and efficiency and really being able to leverage that technology. If we go into expenses again, and I'm happy to kind of go into more detail here, I'm sure some folks have some questions about this as well, but if you look at sort of, Chris also talked about some really important hires, right, that have not yet come on and they're not yet in our run rate from an expense perspective. We expect, you know, if you think about sort of other things to drive growth in the back half of the year that we would see maybe another 10 million in timing of expenses that are not in the current run rate. And so that includes things like marketing expense, T&E, things like that. And so those are, you know, as well as some more technology expense. So you can see in the way I'm answering this that these are not mutually exclusive concepts, right? You can run a disciplined, efficient organization while you are investing in driving growth. And I think that's really our focus and our plan.
spk02: Got it, that's helpful. I'll jump back in the queue.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Schmidt with William Blair. Please go ahead.
spk05: Good morning. Emerging market volumes continue to be a real bright spot. You know, what's your growth outlook for EM over the next three to five years since electronic penetration is still fairly low there? And is the opportunity, it seems to be in local currency volumes?
spk06: Yeah, great question. And obviously we had a lot of focus on the EM market opportunity in our opening remarks. Obviously this is one of the largest markets outside the US credit market and a market that we are fully engaged in and continue to see signs of growth across our platform and across regions. In particular, we've been adding local markets to our platform and as you mentioned, seeing sizable growth in that local market. And in fact, our overall local market revenue was up 22% in the quarter. And we're still seeing engagement from our clients across the local markets. There's been changes in the index, the large indexes that are followed by many of our investors and one key ingredient is India being added to the index. So we do see that broad EM market still being a very attractive asset across the broader investment arena and having access to all those local markets is a key ingredient for our platform. What one driver that we've seen is growth of portfolio trading across the EM market. So not at the levels that we see in high grade right now, but certainly there's higher demand for access to portfolio liquidity in that EM market. And certainly we're seeing some benefits across our portfolio trading tool in EM. The other area that we're seeing growth is in block size liquidity on the platform. We saw a record of block trading in EM on the platform, largely driven from the local markets and the rates nature of those local markets. So again, some very positive factors playing out in that EM market and obviously still highly in demand across our global investors.
spk05: Yeah, thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Brian Biddell with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
spk01: Great, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions and welcome Eileen to the call as well. Maybe just to go back to the ICE agreement. Can you just talk about just how we think about market share in the space? Does this change that dynamic in terms of how you're thinking about your overall liquidity pool within the confines of looking at market share and realize that the revenue will happen where it gets executed, but does that change your reporting in any way in terms of something coming through, let's say market access and getting executed at ICE or vice versa?
spk06: Thanks for the question. And it's an area that I've spent many a year in when it comes to routing and both external and internal liquidity. We'll be very transparent around both our market share. It's really based on where the trade reports flow from. So certainly look, you have two leading liquidity pools, particularly in munis. We hit a record eight and a half percent of the muni market in July. So we're very excited about the levels of liquidity that we're hitting on our own platform. We also have seen the rise of ICE bonds and the growth that they've seen in the retail segment of the market. And we think connecting those two leading liquidity pools really solves a need for clients, which is access to liquidity just more broadly across the market. The structure of this is unique in the bond market, but it's a structure that we've seen in other markets play out quite successfully. And when I look at our client needs and where their areas of resources are being dedicated, it's largely being dedicated to collection of assets and not really a technology solutions for trading assets. And so we're helping solve those resource needs. Large institutional investors are able to access our platform and now we'll be able to access both our platform and another leading pool of liquidity through the ICE bonds relationship. So it's really solving client needs, which is the focus. Obviously we'll be very transparent on where transactions take place and who's the beneficiary of that revenue getting executed. Yeah,
spk01: that's a great color. And then maybe just on the pricing, realize a lot of this is due to the mix certainly between high yield and investment grade, but as portfolio trading or as you're more successful in portfolio trading going forward, do you expect that to be a headwind on pricing? And there's also the high touch strategy in contrast within X-Pro, do you view that as a counter to potential pricing pressure from more portfolio trading?
spk07: Hey Brian, it's Eileen, nice to talk to you. Let me start on that and then Chris might wanna come in with some of his views as well. I would say the first thing to think about when you look at sort of the fee capture of fees per million is overall, how is pricing, what is it looking like and how are we seeing our fee cards? And they've really been stable. So we're not seeing moves or changes really in terms of the overall fee pricing mechanism. And it really is protocol and product mix, which you commented on, right? And we do know that the portfolio trading, obviously we were really quite happy to see our share at .2% in July and obviously that had some impact. One of the other things I would note though is that our mutie business, we also saw good share there as well. And we saw increasing share there and we had some dealers come on that were part of the Muni Brokers acquisition and they're on some legacy fee plans, right? And so there are different puts and takes here. I think we also have to remember how this model works in terms of fees as well. And so if you think of high grade for instance, and you think of duration, I think we talked a little bit, just both Rich and Chris have talked about the environment and obviously it's early days. And so we need to see how this all plays out in the macro. But I'm sure I don't have to tell you, I know how closely you follow what's going on in the macro, but we've seen for instance, if you think about the curve, right? We're at a point right now where we see, and just yesterday, a normalizing, albeit for a moment of twos and tens, and we're seeing really the least inverted relationship over the, I call it last, what, two years in terms of the possibility for steepening of the curve. When you mix that with, if you think about what we're seeing in the rate environment, right? We see a forward curve now. As of yesterday, it was pricing in four or even five rate cuts, and we know that just a few weeks ago, that certainly wasn't what we were seeing in the forward. So when you put those macro factors together, and again, we are gonna have to see how this all plays out, but when you put those together and you think about duration for us, we know for instance that those are positive signals for us in terms of how our pricing works there for high grade. And so if we remind about the sensitivities there, right? Every one year increase in weighted average years to maturity traded on the platform is a benefit of approximately, call it $15 in high grade. And then there's also the sensitivity to yields. If we think about the yield curve, the first 100 basis points was lower, seeing a benefit to high grade, the capture of approximately $3 to $5 per million. So when you put those together, depending on what goes on, that's $15 to $20 in high grade that you can see in terms of fee capture. So I think there's lots of puts and takes here to think about in terms of the model, but I would just say overall keeping in mind that we have not seen differences to the stability of our fee cards. I don't know if you wanted to add anything on top of that. Yeah,
spk06: Brian, I'll just add on the high touch solution that we're rolling out. It is targeting obviously larger trade sizes that come with our traditional capture. There are embedded caps for certain trade and there are some fees, but what's exciting about that opportunity is because it's direct to dealer and much more targeted to a dealer, we don't have variable costs associated with clearing that trade. And so it scales from a margin perspective quite attractively at the traditional capture rate that we enjoy on the platform, but the variable costs aren't there. So the margin for those trades are technically higher just given the size of the trade, the capture and the underlying cost. It's just a platform course cost and there's no variable cost to it.
spk01: Great, that's great, Carla. Thank you both.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Simon Clinch with Redburn Atlantic. Please go ahead.
spk11: Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my call. I was wondering if you could, I'm just going back to the comments you're making Chris about the past three days, I know it's short term, but a lot of the things moving in the direction that you would hope to see. I was wondering if you could comment on what the similar dynamics would be in say portfolio trading in terms of variable penetration in the market and the liquidity provided for that protocol in a period of heightened volatility. Have you seen any sort of real change in dynamic there that would be useful?
spk06: Again, it's three days, so I do want to caveat what we're seeing in just three days. I do think portfolio trading is a key tool adopted by our clients and will remain a tool for clients to use both in times of high vol and low vol. It's really a question of cost as spreads gap out in this type of environment, both spreads in a single bond as well as a portfolio trade do. And we've seen evidence of these gaps in spread. They do gap out in this environment. So it just becomes a different trade from what it was just four days ago. So we have seen, and it's again three days, but lower levels of PT activity. That said, our clients are in when they have either capital inflows or capital outflows, depending on the market environment, they may use portfolio trades to enter and exit more quickly in an environment like this where there's certainty of execution. But obviously over the long period of time, we've seen portfolio trading, mid-market trading, like those session-based trading, those are harder to execute in heightened volatility versus the low volatility that we've been experiencing for literally the last several quarters and tightened spreads over the last several quarters. So again, three days does not predict a trend, but what we certainly thought would happen in higher volatility we're seeing playing out in the market.
spk11: Great, thanks. And I guess just to follow up, could you just give us a sense of sort of how you're thinking about capital allocation going forward? You used your free cash flow, clearly you've got $250 million of buyback authorization here. So how you think about putting that to work? But generally speaking, longer term, is there any change to how you're looking at the balance sheet, et cetera? Thanks.
spk07: Thanks so much for the question. I would say that if you think about capital optimization and how we look at it and really driving value for our shareholders with capital optimization, I don't know that I would say that there's a change necessarily. I would start by saying that the new authorization really does reflect, as I said in my comments, the board's confidence in the future performance of the company and our ability to generate cash as we continue to execute on the strategy that Chris and the team have been talking about. And we really are a pretty strong cash generative model and that does allow us to continue to fund growth, to sell fund growth, to make investments, et cetera. And really what this is about is flexibility. There's no exploration on this authorization. So it gives us the ability to opportunistically put in the market and buy back when it makes the most sense for our shareholders in terms of we're gonna obviously continue to return capital to shareholders through dividends, buybacks opportunistically. But if you think about kind of the overall hierarchy, our focus continues to be to reinvest in the business. We really wanna drive that long-term opportunity that we see in the fixed income market. We're gonna continue to look at bolt-on acquisition similar to pragma that we've been talking about that allow us to take technology and leverage it across the tech stack, which is gonna enhance our capabilities, add to efficiency. And then we would, and I would say it's really important, one thing I would say about utilizing that cash and balance sheets in that way is that it's really important to do this with the expected amount of rigor and discipline, and that's really important. And third, we'll continue to return capital shareholders through dividends and buybacks and be opportunistic with that. And that's really what this is about. We just have that additional flexibility now.
spk11: Great, thanks so much.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Michael Cypress with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk12: Great, thank you, good morning. I just had a question on information services. I was hoping maybe you could elaborate on some of your key initiatives to drive growth with the information services and technology services, businesses that you have. I know in the past, you've mentioned some opportunities around indexing and -of-day pricing. Just curious where those initiatives stand. What are some of the steps you're looking to take over the next 12 to 24 months? And as you sort of look at the contribution of revenues in those line items today, I guess, how do you think about that mixed changing as you look at over the next three to five years? Thank
spk06: you. Sure, thanks, Michael. And really, we're pretty excited about our information services business line. We're excited about the pipeline of product that we're bringing. Again, first, we're bringing product to the platform to help traders determine how to trade, when to trade. And many times in the context of a portfolio trade, some of the portfolio construction and what to trade. So there's key ingredients of our data is making its way first to the platform and it's exclusive on our platform. We obviously have some very successful data products like our CP plus data across high grade, high yield, euro bonds, and more importantly, EM. I do think our opportunities in the international sector are quite exciting, particularly those local markets that we've talked about today. Our CP plus for EM is in a backdrop of a market where there's no trace, no less sale. These are dark markets, generally a broker driven market. So having a real time feed is a very important component to being a dealer or being a client in that market. So we do see a great opportunity for our real time data feed across the international sector and certainly seeing opportunities as we offer that data feed in APAC, in Latam, and throughout Europe. Many of the products that we're putting on the platform like TradeAbility, AIGiller Selection, CP, Inquiry, these are designed for both how traders engage the market and that's why they're exclusively on our expo platform. But also they can help portfolio managers construct portfolios on any given day. So we see an opportunity, a pipeline opportunity, not just at the trader level, but also at the portfolio construction level. Separately, you mentioned our index opportunities. Obviously we announced a partnership with MSCI. We're excited about the indexes that we have crafted with MSCI as part of that partnership and we think there's a bigger opportunity in that fixed income index market as more and more products and more and more investors move to passive strategies across the fixed income landscape and not just managed strategies. So, and then finally, we haven't talked about it in a while but the launch of CP Plus for Munis is very exciting for us. Not only does it help power our automation suite in the Muni market which is growing rapidly, but it's a new data product, a new real time data product in the Muni market and something that is certainly needed in that market. So we see a really heightened opportunity as we roll out CP Plus for Munis as well. So again, strong product in the current mix and opportunities for growth, but very excited about the pipeline and the opportunity behind the pipeline of growth as well. Great, thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Eli Aboud with Bank of America, please go ahead.
spk16: Good morning, thanks for taking the question. You mentioned that you're connecting to TMC specifically. So I was wondering if there's an opportunity to grow this partnership with ICE. Could you enable connectivity to ICE's other execution assets like bond point and NISY bonds as a next step or maybe is there a way to leverage your overlap in fixed income data?
spk14: Yeah, hi Eli, it's Rich. Yeah, I mean, it's really up to our friends over at ICE. You know, we're connecting in right now. I believe that they have not combined their two retail entities. The other one was bond point. So it's possible we could connect directly into that one as well, but ultimately, you know, I think that'll be coming together and we'll connect via the existing pipes that we have. So it's definitely gonna be something we're gonna be doing again. It's not just for munis, it's for corporates as well. So if they've got the additional liquidity on their other venue, I'm sure that's one that will tee up in the near future.
spk06: And Eli, I just add to those comments. I mean, we are excited about the ICE relationship and more importantly, the retail opportunity that we see in the overall market. We see SMAs growing rapidly. They're at two trillion today, expected to go to five trillion. We're seeing a great deal of SMA activity on our platform because they traditionally come through the institutional execution, you know, areas of large investors, but they also execute on a platform like ICE. So I think both parties coming together in this unique partnership leverages the growth of the overall retail market, whether it comes through traditional retail or if it comes through SMA, like we're seeing on our platform. So yeah, a lot of excitement around this partnership and really what it says about our view of market and market structure going forward in the fixed income market. So thanks.
spk16: Got it. And do you foresee any regulatory risks of arrangement given the overlap in meeting execution?
spk06: No, in fact, these are two connectivity points where their liquidity is their liquidity. It's represented on our platform and our liquidity will be represented on their platform as well. So it's a way for our clients to benefit through a technical connection and a commercial relationship. So we would not expect any regulatory concerns around how we structured the partnership.
spk16: Got it. Appreciate the colleague.
spk08: This will conclude our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Chris Kankanen for closing remarks.
spk06: Thank you for joining us today. Obviously we're excited about the macro backdrop in the market and recent volatility and looking forward to update you at the next quarter. So thanks for joining us today.
spk08: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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