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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Mineralis First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Monday, May 12th, 2025. I would now like to turn the conference over to Dan Ferry. Please go ahead.

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you, Aubrey. I would like to welcome everyone joining us today for our first quarter 2025 earnings call. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release providing our first quarter 2025 financial results and business updates. A replay of today's call will be available on the Investors section of our website approximately one hour after its completion. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q&A. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call and webcast will contain forward-looking statements about the company. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. These forward-looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in today's press release and our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent filings. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions only as of today, May 12, 2025, and is accepted as required by law. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. I would now like to turn the call over to John Coliton,

Chief Executive Officer of Mineralist Therapeutics.

Thank you, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference call. I'm joined today by Adam Levy, our Chief Financial Officer, and Dr. David Rodman, our Chief Medical Officer. I'll begin with an overview of the business. Then Dave will discuss our clinical programs and recent milestones, followed by Adam to review our first quarter financial results before we open up the call for your questions. This has been an exciting past few months for Mineralist as our team delivered on several clinical milestones to make significant progress across our entire development pipeline. The most highly anticipated of these accomplishments was the simultaneous announcement of positive top-line data from the Pivotal Trial's Launch HTN and Advance HTN, which evaluated L'Rendert's set in uncontrolled and resistant hypertension subjects. We were pleased to announce in March that both trials successfully achieved statistical significance and were clinically meaningful in their primary efficacy endpoints and demonstrated a favorable safety and tolerability profile. Detailed results from the Advance HTN trial were also published in the New England Journal of Medicine and presented in a late-breaking presentation at the American College of Cardiology's ACC 25 meeting. The Launch HTN data has been accepted for a late-breaking presentation at the European Society of Hypertension meeting on May 24th with a planned future publication. Each of these exciting outcomes helps to underscore the strength of these clinical data and the potentially transformative nature of L'Rendert's to help people achieve their blood pressure goal and potentially reduce their cardiovascular risk. The positive efficacy, safety, and tolerability data from these two Pivotal Trials, along with the data from our Target HTN Phase II trial of L'Rendert's, are key elements of our planned new drug application to the FDA. We continue to believe that dysregulated aldosterone is not adequately addressed with the currently available RAS-directed therapeutics, including mineral corticoid receptor antagonists. These results we have seen with L'Rendert's that reinforce the need for a new aldosterone-directed therapeutic approach. The Transform HTN Open Label Extension trial is evaluating the safety and efficacy of L'Rendert's long-term use, which will be an important aspect of L'Rendert's profile and a critical component of our new drug application. We anticipate discussing the results from the Advanced, Launch, Target, and Transform HTN trials, as well as the Explore CKD trial with the FDA at a pre-NDA meeting in the fourth quarter of 2025, during which we expect to define the path forward for an NDA submission and potential approval of L'Rendert's. We look forward to providing updates on this program throughout the remainder of 2025. We're very optimistic about the interest physicians have in L'Rendert's overall clinical profile based on the Pivotal data, especially given the double-digit absolute reduction in systolic blood pressure. Supporting our excitement around the market opportunity for L'Rendert's are the data we collected in a CIRMO survey fielded in March, which evaluated the data from the Launch HTN and Advanced HTN trials with cardiologists and primary care physicians. The results from that survey showed if L'Rendert's is approved, 95% of the physicians are likely to prescribe L'Rendert's broadly for hypertension and specifically in the third and fourth line position. This intent to prescribe is based on the healthcare professional's interpretation of the efficacy data relative to what they currently have available for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension, as well as L'Rendert's stat safety and tolerability profile. The overall results speak to the desire for innovative solutions that physicians want in their treatment armamentarium to address uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. Our two ongoing proof of concept trials address advanced chronic kidney disease, specifically those with uncontrolled hypertension, as well as obstructive sleep apnea with nocturnal hypertension. These trials are designed to enhance and extend the L'Rendert stat profile in hypertension subjects with co-orbid conditions, largely driven by inadequately controlled blood pressure and dysregulated aldosterone. We've made steady progress with both trials since the beginning of 2025 and anticipate announcing top line data from Explore CKD trial later this quarter. We're also pleased to announce the appointment of Eric Warren as Chief Commercial Officer. Eric brings approximately 30 years of experience in the pharmaceutical industry, during which he has developed a breadth of commercial and partnering expertise, focusing primarily on cardio metabolic and acute care medicine. He started his career as a pharmacist and then joined Merck and Company, where he went on to hold commercial positions of increasing responsibility for almost two decades. In addition, Eric has held commercial leadership roles at Sanofi and Abriva and was most recently the Chief Commercial Officer at Aspirion Therapeutics. As the Chief Commercial Officer at Mineralis, he'll lead our commercial strategy as we prepare for the potential FDA approval of L'Rendert stat and support our partnering ambitions in the US and ex-US markets. In March, we completed a public equity financing that raised gross proceeds of approximately $201.2 million before deducting fees and expenses. This financing contributed meaningfully to the strength of our balance sheet. Now to provide more color on our clinical pipeline and recent milestones, I'll turn the call over today.

Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everybody. As John mentioned, our team has been having an exciting few months with the advancement of our clinical programs. I'll start by summarizing the top line results of the pivotal Phase 3 launch HTN trial, which randomized 1,083 subjects in North America and Europe who had failed to achieve the US guidelines specified blood pressure targets. Despite having been prescribed a multi-drug antihypertensive regimen. The trial, which tested the run to stand in a real world clinical context. Medics primary and secondary endpoints with highly statistically significant, clinically meaningful placebo adjusted reduction. It's a solid blood pressure as well as in the observed change in blood pressure that is conventionally used by prescribing positions to assess response. To any hypertensive therapy at week 6, the primary endpoint. The 50 milligram once daily, Lerunders that arm demonstrated 9.1 millimeter of mercury placebo adjusted reduction in systolic blood pressure and a 16.9 millimeter mercury reduction in observed systolic blood pressure. At week 12, the reduction in systolic BP was maintained with the point estimate being greater than that observed at week 6. 11.7 millimeters of mercury and 19 millimeters of mercury for placebo adjusted and observed changes respectively. Reductions in blood pressure of this magnitude have been linked to significant reduction in overall cardiovascular risk. And the instance of major adverse cardiovascular events. The launch trial conferred the expected modest on target increase in serum potassium. That accompanies the therapeutic benefit in individuals with inadequately controlled hypertension. As well as an overall safe and well tolerated profile. The incidence of any potassium measurement over 6 million moles per liter in the launch trial in the 50 milligram arm was .1% in placebo. In active and .7% in placebo. The pre specified rate excluding falsely elevated or factitious hyperkalemia. Was comparable to placebo with the demonstrated incidences being .6% and .4% respectively. While quantitative comparisons between different clinical trials are difficult. The incidence of moderate or severe hyperkalemia of approximately one half of 1% compares quite favorably with most prior reports. Of mineralic receptor antagonist tested in a similar clinical context. The launch global pivotal trial is the largest. In here trial reported today and the benefit profile compares quite favorably was previously reporter. Smaller trials of the 3 other adosterone synthase inhibitors that have been tested in hypertensive individuals. Now turn into the advanced trial here. We tested the effect of Luranda stat in the clinical context of hypertension intensive individuals. Who are the most refractory to current standard of care and often referred to hypertension specialists. The trial used highly rigorous criteria for enrollment and randomized. Design and randomization designed to mirror best practice care provided in the most advanced hypertension referral centers. Maximization of conventional best practice 2 and 3 drug treatment regimens. Along with active monitoring of compliance were used to document and confirm the existence of uncontrolled. Or resistant hypertension, the results from the trial in the 50 milligram once daily Luranda set arm. We're highly statistically significant the 7.9 millimeter mercury reduction in placebo adjusted systolic blood pressure. And 15.4 millimeter mercury reduction in observed systolic blood pressure measured by 24 hour. And regulatory blood pressure were observed at the pre specified 12 week visit. The run just demonstrated a favorable safety and tolerability profile. With modest on target changes in serum potassium sodium and E. G. F. R. and a low discontinuation rate. This trial was designed and conducted in partnership with the comprehensive hypertension center center at the Cleveland Clinic and their C5 research team. Results were presented by the co director of the Cleveland Clinic hypertension clinic. Dr Luke laughing in a late breaking session at the American College of cardiology's AC 25 meeting. And published in the New England Journal of Medicine on May 8. As was reported in the New England Journal of Medicine paper. The advanced trial per protocol confirmed incidents of hyperkalemia over 6 millimole per liter. In the 50 milligram arm was 2.1%. Given the high dose of almost certain a potent long acting arm. We also elevate serum potassium. We feel that this incidence of serum potassium greater than 6 millimole per liter has an acceptable benefit risk profile appropriate for the use in these patients. Okay, now turning to our other programs explore and explore. The O. S. A phase two proof of concept trials. Both of these trials are designed to provide data that augments the anti type, pretensive protocol of the run just that by profiling the safety and efficacy of the run just that in these two special populations. And hypertensive individuals during the 1st quarter, we announced the completion of enrollment in the explore CKD phase two trials. This trial evaluates the safety and efficacy of the run just that for treatment of hypertension. In subjects with an EGFR from 30 to 90 and at least 200 milligrams, a, despite receiving stable treatment. With an ace inhibitor or an art as well as an STL T2 inhibitor hypertension and associated hypertensive nephropathy is a leading cause of kidney damage alone. And in combination with other obesity associated comorbidities. This is another area with great unmet medical need where our DOS, or synthase inhibition with Lurunders that has the potential for transforming for transformative benefit. To patients in this trial, the primary outcome measure is change in systolic blood pressure during a 4 week treatment period. Relative to that scene in a 4 week placebo treatment period in the same individuals. The key mechanism of kidney damage in hypertensive nephropathy. Is elevated blood pressure induced. Glomerular hyper perfusion scarring and reduction of the number of glow Mary life available to filter the blood change in protein area is being assessed in this trial as well. In contrast to CKD due to diabetes and metabolic syndrome. Where protein area is a useful surrogate endpoint. Individuals with predominant hypertensive nephropathy tend to have modest levels of protein area. Change in blood pressure, along with acute physiological reduction in rather than change in protein area may be a more useful outcome measure for a trial in this population. In the 1st quarter of 2025, we announced initiation of the explore phase 2 trial. To evaluate the effect of the treatment of moderate to severe obstructed sleep apnea. Blood pressure increases significantly as arterial oxygenation falls during upper airway obstruction at night. By dosing Lurundi stated bedtime, we believe we will suppress the majority of aldosterone produced during sleep. While maintaining 24 hour blood pressure control. Episodes of nocturnal hypertension are under diagnosed. And lack of demonstrated highly effective treatment. The current treatment armamentarium is limited to weight loss. And the use of positive airway pressure. We believe that neither is sufficiently effective at minimizing the impact of on major adverse clinical outcomes. In summary, we have now demonstrated the clinically meaningful benefit risk profile of Lurundi stat in individuals with aldosterone mediated hypertension. We are focused both on moving Lurundi stat towards an NDA submission. As well as exploring its use in prevalent comorbidities. Such as and hypertensive nephropathy. For which normalizing aldosterone production may result in meaningful clinical benefit. I'll now turn the call over to Adam to review our financial results for the 1st quarter of 2025.

Thank you, Dave. Good afternoon everyone. Today I will discuss select portions of our 1st quarter 2025 financial results. Additional details can be found in our form 10 cube. Which will be filed with the SEC today, May 12. We ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents and investments of 343 million dollars as of March 31st, 2025. Compared to 198.2 million dollars as of December 31st, 2024. We believe that our current cash, cash equivalents and investments will be sufficient to fund our planned clinical trials and regulatory activities. As well as support corporate operations into 2027. R&D expenses for the quarter ended March 31st, 2025 were 37.9 million dollars. Compared to 30.8 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2024. The increase in R&D expenses was primarily due to increases of 4.8 million dollars in preclinical and clinical costs. And 2.8 million dollars in compensation expense resulting from additions to headcount. Increases in salaries and accrued bonuses and increased stock based compensation. Partially offset by 0.5 million dollars and lower clinical supply manufacturing and regulatory costs. G&A expenses were 6.6 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2025. Compared to 4.6 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2024. The increase in G&A expenses was primarily due to 1.2 million dollars in higher compensation expense. Resulting from additions to headcount increases in salaries and accrued bonuses and increased stock based compensation and 0.7 million dollars in higher professional fees. Total other income net was 2.2 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2025. Compared to 3.9 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2024. The decrease was primarily attributable to decreased interest earned on our investments in money market funds and US treasuries. Net loss was 42.2 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2025 compared to 31.5 million dollars for the quarter ended March 31st, 2024. The increase was primarily attributable to the factors impacting the company's expenses described above. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question? Please press star 1 in your touchstone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process? Please press star 2. If you're using a speaker phone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please for your 1st question. Your 1st question comes from Michael, the fury of ever core. Your line is already open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats and all the progress. Just 2 for me with regards to the CKT trial in the past. You said that these patients are so sick that physicians will readily accept some level of hyperkalemia if it means that Lauren just that will improve their blood pressure. So if my question is, what would be the max level of grade 2 hyperkalemia that would be acceptable? If Lauren, just that were to yield a high single digit placebo adjusted SPP reduction and then have a follow up.

Yeah, Mike, just a quick response, but I don't know that we categorized what would be an acceptable level. I think what's key and critical is we talk to specialists and our advisors who are treating these patients with hypertension and more advanced kidney disease. They're really looking at providing a benefit to the BP as well as relieving or improving the kidney function overall. I think these specialist would tend to be predominantly nephrologist. Are more comfortable with higher level of potassium readings within these patients. They have a means to manage that they've got tools to use that. They're also more likely to modulate other background treatments. In other words, if they're getting the BP reduction with Lurunders that they may reduce the dose of ace or arm. So they the key takeaway for us. Is within explore, see, KD get a clear sense of the safety characterized the efficacy with this drug. In knowing full well, they providing the benefit on both BP as well as kidney function in these subjects is what. You know, the specialists who are treating these patients, predominantly are looking for.

Got it. That's helpful. And my final question is, despite by Cadro stats shorter half life and lesser selectivity for aldosterone synthase inhibition relative to Lurunders that. It still showed a high single digit percent as BP reduction over 14 weeks in their phase two CKD trial. So I guess should we expect similar efficacy and safety with Lurunders that.

Yeah, Mike, I think it's too hard to hedge what we expect to see. I think we would anticipate seeing the clinically meaningful reduction in BP. I think the profile for Lurunders that has been well characterized now with three successful studies from target HD and advance and launch. But, you know, it's too early to hedge what we do anticipate saying, but I would anticipate certainly a clinically meaningful reduction. And then we'll see how the data unfolds as far as for those other human dynamic characteristics.

I see. Thank you. Yeah.

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comes from Richard law of Goldman Sachs. Your line is already open.

Great. Thank you so much and congrats on the progress for me as well. So a couple of questions for me. Can you discuss how the overall explore CKD studies in the strategy for work and submission with launch and advance? My understanding is that this study is important to provide clinical support for patients below EGFR 45 and it would be great to hear your latest thinking on this and if that has evolved and I have a follow up.

Yeah, Rich, thanks for the question. You know, we're certainly excited about the benefit risk profile that's emerged now with Lurunders that with the successful completion of the advanced study and the launch study seen double digit reduction in BP. With a really acceptable safety, tolerability profile, you know, the, the submission of the Lurunders that NDA will be inclusive of all three of those studies as I noted, as well as the transform open label extension and explore CKD will be a component of that. Really the biggest driver of explore CKD was really to inform the blood pressure response and subjects with an EGFR down to 30 as well as going with a lower dose of 25 milligrams QD. And so it will be a component. I think it's going to be part of the totality of evidence of Lurunders that that will go into the NDA. I don't know if I can open at this point as far as the specific language that will be included in the label from explore, but it's certainly a part of the. The total package will be having the dialogue with the agency on.

Great, fantastic. And then so we saw in the New England Journal publication that the patient who have the potassium levels greater than six have a much lower average EGFR compared to the rest of the population. What is, I mean, in your view, like, what is the typical EGFR delta between like such study population in explore CKD study and those in a general hypertension study like the one in your pivotal study program. Like it's BIA the CKD study is that a good benchmark in terms of patient population or is it or is it a different population from that.

And I'm sorry to do this. Can you rephrase your question? I just want to make sure I'm answering what you're looking for.

Yeah, so in your New England Journal publication, the patients who have the higher potassium levels greater than six millimole, they all have like lower than average EGFR compared to the rest of the population. So the question here is that how do we think about sort of the differences between the EGFR in your explore CKD study compared to the advance and launch. And like what would be a good benchmark in terms of the type of patient that would that that you know in terms of the EGFR level for your explore CKD study.

All right. Thanks, Rich. I appreciate that. Yeah, I think it's, you know, it's why we're doing the explore CKD study. We know the EGFR mean EGFR and launch was higher than that in advance. This advance was obviously a more high risk population, truly uncontrolled, truly confirmed resistant hypertension. They had lower EGFR. I think you're alluding to what Luke shared at the ACC about the subjects above six had a mean of about a 58. You know, as far as how tight is the correlation between EGFR and risk of hypercalemia, I think we need more data and more evidence, but it's part of why we're doing the explore CKD trial. Looking at subjects going down to an EGFR 30, we know they have the risk of potential more challenges in managing electrolytes. That's why we're testing the 25 milligram QD that we believe is an effective dose of the Lurunder stat. But as far as the correlation, I think that's something that will continue to unfold. Dave, if you've got some additional thoughts,

please. Hey, Rich, good question. And how you doing? When you talk about studies like this, the outliers are in some ways more important than the means, right? So the mean was, you know, above 60, say, for the people who didn't have any of an incidence. It was a little bit lower and they had it. In this trial, what we're really looking for those individuals who are in that 30 to 45 range, maybe on the lower side and saying what happens to them? None of this is an issue other than giving guidance to clinicians. For who to keep an eye on and probably who to give a potassium binder if needed, or as John said, back off on the ARB and see if you can maintain the same blood pressure. So it's a guidance. It's what we call a special population profiling study. And we anticipate looking just as much at outliers as we do about means in that trial.

Got it. Very helpful. And then just one last question. Similar to explore CKD, do you expect to include data from the explore OSA in your filing package?

I think, Rich, it's a fair question. I think it's too early to opine on that. We haven't guided on top line data. We're excited about that study to address a significant need within that resistant hypertension OSA population. But it's too early to comment what or would that not be included in the discussions with the FDA?

Great. Thank you. Thanks, Rich.

Your next question comes from Themis Fernandez of Guggenheim. Your line is already open.

Great. Thank you for the questions, guys. So, you know, John, I think on the last discussion call, you mentioned that. As many as 47,000 physicians could actually be appropriate for promotion in the uncontrolled and resistant hypertension opportunity. I think you also at ACC emphasize that the opportunity may sit a little bit more initially in the, you know, sort of fourth line hypertension opportunity. Can you just help us understand how does the sort of intersection of that broad position base intersect with your view of the needs of a partner in that context? And, you know, what are you really looking for in the context of either a partner or something, you know, perhaps more strategic or, you know, an opportunity to actually start advancing the opportunity to promote on your own. Thanks.

Yeah, the 47,000, Rich, for those that maybe hadn't heard before. So we did a significant project about a year ago with IQVIA with about 1.6 billion prescription claims within that. And when you basically narrow down, where does 50% of the prescribing come from for third liner later prescribing? There's about 47,000 doctors that account for about half of that prescribing and a significant portion of the influence on the other 50%. And so from our standpoint, there's a very efficient commercial model, particularly with kind of clinical profile that Lerunderstat has now demonstrated to go out and target those 47,000 prescribers and generate significant value. But as we've talked about in the past, partnering for us is inclusive of US, but certainly global, you know, looking for partners that could help maximize the opportunity of Lerunderstat XUS because we have no intentions of creating mineralus commercial entities standalone outside of the United States. So finding partners that can help maximize that opportunity XUS, but then really fully tap in to the opportunity in the United States as well. And that would basically mean, you know, some level of overlap, maybe with the targeted physicians that we've talked about, but certainly coverage of those outside of those 47,000 that we target. And in fact, that target may be a little bit smaller as we think about, you know, an initial launch of Lerunderstat, fourth line is probably going to be the ideal place to go. That's where there's, you know, minimal benefit with existing treatments beyond aldosterone directed therapeutics. We know spironolactone is thought to be valuable there, but it's greatly underutilized. I think our clinical program to date where we've targeted those subjects failing to get to goal on two or more meds shows the value of an aldosterone directed treatment that physicians are going to want to work with, that patients are going to want to take and persist with. So we think there's significant opportunity there. We think we could tap into a significant portion of those prescribers, but having a partner clearly is going to help us maximize the value of the asset in the United States.

Great. And maybe just one follow up. Can you just remind us what the gating factors are to, you know, sort of finalizing and filing the NDA specifically? Thanks.

Yeah, happy to do that. You know, first and foremost, we're obviously very pleased with the benefit risk profile that we continue to see with this molecule. Now with the two active portions of the Pivotal Program completed, as we've stated before, the open label extension is a critical aspect of that. If you think about when the last subjects enrolled and launched in advance, that was at the end of October last year, we would anticipate all subjects completing the 52-week open label by Q1 of next year. Now we don't need to have all of those subjects to enable a filing, but we need the certainly a majority of those subjects through 52 weeks before we'd be comfortable with the NDA. But that's part of what we'll have a dialogue with the FDA in Q4, as we've discussed in the pre-NDA meeting. And so it'll be both the Pivotal Programs for advance and launch, it'll be part of the target data, the Explore CKD data, and then a portion of that open label extension will be informative for that pre-NDA meeting that will then have better guidance for timing of an NDA submission.

All right, great. Thanks guys. Congrats. Thanks, James.

Your next question comes from Tim Anderson of Bank of America. Your line is already open.

Hi, this is Alice Umphatem. Thank you for taking our questions. I just want to check, can you hear me okay?

Yes, we can.

Okay, perfect. Just following on from Seamus's questions on partnering, could you talk about any early discussions you may have had so far and what are the limiting factors that a partner may be looking for? So we're going to have the full data from launch and the top line from the CKD study very soon. But do potential partners need to wait for the outcome of the pre-NDA meeting, for example, as well as the AstraZeneca BaxterSat full data? And then I have a follow up.

Sure. So to date, we haven't given updates on our partnering discussions, but we do continue to believe that a partner or multiple partners will be a part of our story and we'll keep you updated as

appropriate.

Okay, thank you. And then AstraZeneca commonly references a $5 billion peak sales for BaxterSat. I'm curious, how are you thinking that you can best leverage a partner in order to realize this sort of potential with LurindaStrat? For example, does it involve developing six-dose combinations or other indications and things like that? Thank you.

Yeah, thanks, Alice. There's clearly a great deal of unmet need in this space. We're focused exquisitely right now on the hypertension, but we know there's utility for an ideal aldosterone-directed treatment beyond that. That's why we're looking at the adjacencies, because there's such an overlap in all of these cardioreal metabolic syndromes that have either hypertension or diabetes kind of at the central point. And so for us, we think there is significant unmet need. There's significant value to provide to patients to help reduce their BP, which is the leading modifiable risk factor for cardiovascular risk. But moving from hypertension into adjacencies such as obstructive sleep apnea, hypertensive nephropathy, as you heard Dave speak about, we think basically generates significant value for us. As we have partnering dialogues, as I've spoken about in the past, part of that is partnering from a commercial perspective. But for those that have a shared vision, it also could be development partnerships as well. Looking at some of these adjacent areas, such as heart failure or CKT, again, we know that aldosterone plays a role across the spectrum and having what we believe to be a leading ASI gives a significant opportunity to tap into that value.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Your next question comes from Annabel Samimi of Stiefel. Your line is already open.

Hey guys, this is Jayed on for Annabel. Thanks for taking our questions. I have two questions. First is, at what point do you think that guidelines or hypertension guidelines would start including launch and advance HTN data? Is there any possibility that it could be updated before you guys would theoretically launch?

Yeah, I appreciate the question. I don't know that we can opine on when the timing will be specifically. I think we can only look at historical precedents. And I think the various guideline committees, when faced with new valued innovations, have been responsive to try to guide their constituents on how they should think about and integrate these new innovations into their treatment paradigm. So it's too early to opine, but it's a fair question. That's why we went to the effort we did in advance HTN because I think it fundamentally addresses the kind of questions these guideline committees wish to have. And that is not only in maybe an existing background treatment, but when you get to truly high risk patients like we tested in advance, what is the profile physicians could expect and how would guideline committees inform their communication of their constituents?

Got it. Thank you for that. My other question is related to explore CKD. What do you think is the primary thing that you're looking for here? Are you looking for safety in the CKD population where we're going to compliment drugs like FgO2 inhibitors and ARBs? And do you expect efficacy to generally be in the line of what you saw in launch in advance or are there some nuances with that patient population that we should know of?

Yeah, I'll just reiterate what Dave had said with a profiling study like this. Safety is a key element of the analysis and what we expect from a clinical benefit standpoint would be clinical meaningful reduction in blood pressure. I think that's been well characterized in the three studies today. That's what we would anticipate to see in this population and then providing additional information about the 25 milligram QD dose.

Thanks, I'll add. Thank you.

Your next question comes from Mohit Donsal of Wells Fargo. Your line is already open.

Hi, this is Sadia Rahman on Thermohead. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the recent progress. So on the hypertension readouts, you've previously mentioned plans for subgroup analyses. Can you elaborate on those plans for which subgroups you're focused on and the timeline for presentation of that data? And can you talk about how it could potentially help physicians select patients for Lurunderstat and if it could also influence placement of Lurunderstat into treatment guidelines?

Yes, thank you for the question. As you note, we've efforted to pre-specify analysis of populations that may be unique responders to Lurunderstat. You saw some of that data within the Advanced HTN, ACC, as well as NGIN presentation and publications respectively. I would anticipate seeing something similar with Launch HTN. I think to date what we've seen, and it's frankly beneficial for a prescriber, is whether failing to achieve goal on two meds or three meds, one controlled or resistant to hypertension, you're seeing a pretty profound reduction in BP, regardless of gender, age, race, number of background medications. And so it creates a predictable response that physicians can anticipate when using Lurunderstat. We're going to continue to investigate and dive into the data. I mean, what we've shared to date has been very informative about the value from a clinical reduction and safety standpoint. But there's a great deal of data we're going to continue to dig into within Launch and Advanced and eventually explore CKD to really continue to further inform, all right, what is the ideal population to respond to this drug? But to date, we've seen great responses across multitude of subsets of patients.

Great, thanks. And then on the OSA trial, how are you thinking about this four-week endpoint, how it aligns with expected timelines for improvements in the apnea hypoxia index and in nocturnal blood pressure? And what magnitude of AHAI reduction would you consider to be clinically meaningful and also competitive in the context of the data reported with GLIP-1s, for example?

Really good questions. Let me try to take those one at a time. So the first question was four weeks, what weight we see. So as far as apnea hypoxia index, the primary mechanism through which our drug will work is the diuretic effect and reducing the amount of salt and water overload. Because when you lay down at night, the excess salt and water, the fluid shifts up, it's called rostracodile redistribution into your upper body and neck. That benefit is accrued within a few weeks. And so by four weeks, we would expect to see the benefit on apnea hypoxia index. As you know, around a 50% reduction has been seen with the Lilly study, similar with the AFNI-MEG study of a different mechanism. We're powered down to about 30%, and these are small trials. So we would ultimately be observing where we are in that range. But let me just say something. Treating apnea hypoxia index is important, but the main risk for adverse outcomes is this extreme bursts of hypertension, these spikes that you see at night when those things happen. And we're going to be doing the first trial using sub one second measurements, beat to beat blood pressure over the course of an entire night. So we'll be able to look at how well does this drug actually reduce the risk for adverse clinical outcomes. In many ways, that's a more important, important endpoint. However, apnea hypoxia index and for patient reported performance metrics are the current guidance from the agency for approval. So we're going down both of those paths. This is an anti hypertensive drug, and it's a sodium depleter. We expect to see benefits on both, but both are going to be meaningful. So I can't tell you for sure if apnea hypoxia index is 30, but we see a terrific impact on nighttime blood pressure, maybe restoration nighttime dipping will be the only ones with those data at that point and will be reporting them. And I think that will be really an important milestone in studying this disease.

Great. Appreciate the context.

Thank you. Thanks,

that.

Your next question comes from Rami of life cycle. Your line is already open.

Thank you for taking our questions as well. I guess I just wanted to confirm a statement that Dr. Rob did made that patients with hypertensive nephropathy may have more modest levels of protein area. I guess, is the patient population and explore similar to that of the Bo ringer study or are there other key differences in enrollment criteria? And I guess, is that 37% placebo adjusted reduction with monotherapy? The cat just that a fair bar here.

Okay, those are good questions. And if we think about this, and this has happened in other chronic kidney disease is a syndrome, right? It can be autoimmune and you want to use an anti, which has been very effective. If you, if it's in the context of obesity and diabetes, it's from metabolic syndrome and that is the one that's associated with a fair amount of protein area, even the product syndrome, which is an extreme of that. What we're looking at some of these patients may have high levels of protein area, but we anticipate that that will not be the majority in this trial. So it will be a different subset and it's actually a different subset of CKD. These people have scarring of their external part of their cortex of their kidney loss of these glomeruli from this water hammer effect. Of the pounding of blood pressure for these people getting their blood pressure down to a hundred and twenty five or a hundred and thirty. Is not all they need. They need lower blood pressures than those to truly protect the glomeruli that are left. And so we're going to be looking at that and continuing to explore the possibility of differentiating on that basis as we get into this. Quote, chronic kidney disease space. It's not our primary objective per se, because we are going after hypertension broadly. We're now since we've proven. That it's a highly safe and effective drug for uncontrolled and resistant hypertension. Now we're starting to go to the very high unmet needs subpopulations. Which right now is we consider to be hypertensive form of nephropathy and OSA.

And Rami just to add to that, you know, the distinctions between the studies, I think the baseline, this is all like BP and that study was below what is our inclusion criteria. So to Dave's point, we really are recruiting those subjects with low EGFR and hypertension. I think that does create a distinct population between the two studies.

Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

There are no further questions at this time. I would hand over the call to John Congleton for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

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