5/8/2025

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Good morning and welcome to the Mankind Corporation first quarter 2025 financial results earnings call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded on May 8th, 2025 and will be available for playback on the Mankind Corporation website shortly after the conclusion of this call and available for approximately 90 days. This call will contain forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainty, which can cause actual risks to differ materially from the stated expectations. For further information on the company's risk factors, Please see the form 10Q for the quarterly period ended March 31st, 2025 on file with the SEC, the earnings release and the slides prepared for this presentation. Joining us today for Mankind are Chief Executive Officer Michael Castagna and the Chief Financial Officer Chris Prentice. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Mr Castagna. Please go ahead, sir.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. Today, joining me is Chris Prentice, our Chief Financial Officer. We'll be going through operational pipeline highlights, our financial review, and some of my remarks at the end. As we've engaged with the investment community over the last several months, our discussions highlight that investors, especially in these uncertain times, are seeking commercial stage companies that have a profile of growing revenue, promising pipeline, and a strong financial position combined with very little debt that we have going forward. I'm proud to share that this depicts where mankind is today and are excited by our five key pillars of growth above. Now I'm going to highlight our Q1 2025 key points. Our endocrine business grew 20% on NRXs and 14% on TRXs. We have filed for a label change for our adult, which is a 2X round down conversion. We expect that to be hopefully approved in Q4 of this year. We plan to file the pediatric expansion in mid 2025. Our Tyveso collaboration remains strong. I'm sure many of you have listened to the UT call. We are excited about our great partnership together, which resulted in Q1 royalty revenue of $30 million and manufacturing revenue of $29 million. In terms of colfazamine and attendib, I will highlight those later in this call. And our financial results were very strong for the quarter, and we had non-gap income of $22 million or 43% growth over last year. Now let me bridge to our diabetes business. Since we last spoke, we had a very successful ATT showing with multiple KOA interactions that have earned a very positive reception for AFREZA. Unlike anything before, due to the positive INHALE3 data and the excitement that is building in the pediatric opportunity. All of this gives us reason to believe the steps we have taken and continue to take set the stage for AFREZA to realize its true potential. After leaving ATTD and interacting with hundreds of US and international customers from around the world, the global expansion and demand opportunity is real, as evidenced by our booth at ATTD, which was nonstop with traffic over the three days we were there. Additionally, I have met many U.S. customers on my travels around the U.S., and I no longer hear the objections I used to. And now what I hear is, why don't we increase patient requests? Why is it not top of mind with our sales force? How do you dose and write a prescription? Versus previously we heard about safety, payer roadblocks, and dosing in fixed doses. We're very excited, and we believe pediatrics is a real opportunity to cause an inflection. and Afrezza. And additionally, we recently had a PayRab board that also described how they would probably allow pediatrics to go through relative to the history where they would block Afrezza to injectable insulin. Now, as I look at the performance driven by our strong NRX growth, we've really seen this improvement. But what's more important is the 26% year-over-year growth in our top 50% of our prescribers. Very pleased with the early indicators here and continue to go deeper on our call list to increase the number of prescribers that we can target. Our TRX activity is consistent with our gross revenues. And while net sales appear to be relatively in line with the prior year, this is due to one-time adjustments of our gross to net in Q1 and ordering patterns at the end of 2024. Data since the end of the last quarter continues to give us confidence that our messages are resonating and our team is on the right path to continue making impact. Now I'll bridge over to the orphan lung opportunity. First, on Tyveso DPI, this revenue coming in from United Therapeutics will provide the non-dilutive pipeline funding that we need to move clofazamine Mankind 101 forward, as well as notetinib or Mankind 201. What's really encouraging is we had about $1.1 billion of Tyveso DPI-related revenue from United Therapeutics in the previous four quarters, and we receive, obviously, 10% royalty on those sales. We recorded $29 million in manufacturing revenue in Q1, and we await the readouts of the TTOM 1 and 2 trials that United Therapeutics is conducting. As I look to the NTM market, we get very excited that this market will likely exceed $1 billion by the end of the decade. Our focus is on the U.S. and Japan, which have the highest addressable populations, and this disease continues to grow 7% year over year. We see a large market opportunity with one branded treatment in the US and Japan. We believe Mankind will be the next potential launch with clofazamine as we look out. Current NTM therapies have their limitations in efficacy, safety, and tolerability. As we look at the drug combinations, they have low efficacy and high systemic toxicity. These AEs are very severe and cause long-term consequences for patients. And in frequent dosing, these are almost like TB-like regimens and or nebulizers that contribute to patient fatigue and low adherence to therapy. Now let me bridge over to the inhaled development rationale for inhaled clofazamine. The first thing we were trying to do is make sure we maximize the antimicrobacterium activity at the site of infection by bypassing the GI tract and minimizing systemic exposure to hopefully improve the tolerability profile. Oral clofazamine is recommended by the clinical guidelines, and we've done some pre-work to really have comfort in the animal studies as we move forward in the progress of human development. Additionally, because clofazumab has a long half-life, we've been able to create a very convenient dosing cycle with a drug holiday, meaning they take the product for 28 days and load the lung, and then 56 days off. We hope this will alleviate the patient treatment burden as well as noncompliance. Now let me update you on our Mankind 101 study. First, 85% of our sites have been activated across four countries. Two, we've had 55 patients randomized with minimal dropouts, and patients are now starting to move past the six-month time point and rolling over to extension. And as of today, there's been no down dosing to a lower dose. So we believe people are tolerating the product, and this is an indication of the direction the product hopefully will go. We remain confident in achieving 100 patients in an interim analysis enrolled by the end of the year. And even once we hit that number, we will continue to enroll so that when we get that readout in 2026, if it says we needed more patients, hopefully we'll hit that mark by the time we get to that data point. Now I'll bridge over to IPF. For those of you who don't know IPF, it's a progressive and fatal disease. 80% of people will die within the first five years of diagnosis. There are only two drugs approved, and the majority of the patients cannot tolerate either one of those products, hence why we continue to move this forward and believe there's a real opportunity to help patients. We believe Natendib will be the background of therapy as new combinations continue to come out and get approved over the coming years. We previously talked about our phase one study, which was complete and it met its safety and tolerability objectives and healthy volunteers. We had no serious AEs and AEs typically seen with a tetanib such as diarrhea have not shown up. And we expect to continue to develop this in the next phase of development in a global trial. And I look forward to sharing those details at a future meeting. I'll now turn it over to Chris.

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Chris Prentice
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Mike. And good morning, everyone. I will now discuss our first quarter 2025 financial results. For a summary of our financials, please review our press release issued before this call and our form 10Q, which is now on file with the SEC. Before we get into the details of the quarterly results, I want to highlight our revenue growth over the last five years as we compare the trailing four quarters on an annual basis. It demonstrates impressive growth across our three revenue categories over this timeframe, a testament to the extraordinary work of our team. Looking forward, we expect our royalty revenue to continue to grow based on the impressive performance of Tyveso DPI. We expect our collaboration and services revenue to remain relatively flat on an annual basis in the near term due to production scale-up and efficiencies, and will fluctuate over time based on UT's production orders. The commercial metrics that are unfolding give us confidence and excitement for the future of AFREZA, and we anticipate change in its growth trajectory, especially if we are able to gain approval for a pediatric indication. Our overall revenues in the first quarter grew 18%, led by revenues related to Tyveso DPI. Tyveso DPI royalties contributed $30 million in the first quarter, an increase of 32% over the same quarter last year. Collaboration and services revenue consists primarily of manufacturing revenue based on production volumes sold through to UT and the recognition of deferred revenue. We recorded revenue of $29 million in the current quarter, an 18% increase from the prior year quarter. of Fresa net revenues for the first quarter were 15 million, a 3% increase over the prior year. It's important to note that the first quarter of 2024 benefited from a one-time favorable adjustment to gross to nets. Additionally, the current quarter was negatively impacted based on the timing of shipments at the end of the year. As we look at the performance of Afrezza, we are encouraged by the growth in new and recurring prescriptions over the prior year and expect this trend to continue. Vigo net revenue was approximately 4 million for the first quarter, a 6% decrease driven by lower product demand. As discussed on previous calls, the sales force is no longer actively promoting Vigo as of the fourth quarter of 2024. For the first quarter of 2025, we reported net income of $13 million, or $0.04 in earnings per share, a 24% increase compared to $11 million, or $0.04 per share for the first quarter of 2024. On a non-GAAP basis, we reported $22 million of net income or $0.07 of earnings per share for the first quarter compared to $15 million of non-GAAP net income or $0.06 per share for the same period in 2024, a 43% increase. We started the year strong. Our operational results combined with our quarter end cash and investments of 198 million will allow us to continue investing in our differentiated pipeline and execute on our objectives, including driving commercial growth. Mike and I will be at the RBC and Jefferies conferences over the next month, and we look forward to engaging with all of you there. With that, I will turn the call back over to Mike.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Chris. Quickly, I'll talk about some anticipated catalysts over the first and second half of this year. As we look ahead, there are a series of catalysts in our pillars here to highlight a few. Inhale one, we just had our last patient enrolled last week and last visit, and now we can lock the database and get top line results here shortly and submit the SPLA in the next few months. For Mankind 101, the key metric we're tracking is interim enrollment target, which we expect to meet by year end. And on 201, it's continued to finalize details behind our global trial and work with your CROs to get a proposal to kick this off in the second half of 2025. As we look to continue to build shareholder value in 2025 and beyond, obviously there's a pillar of Tabeso DPI, and that for every 10,000 patients covered on insurance, we'll see $300 to $350 million in revenue between manufacturing and royalties. We know there's a big opportunity here in T-TOM 1 and 2, and we'll anxiously await those results from United Therapeutics, as well as the bridging work that has to be done in order to get that into IPF patients. With the endocrine business, we previously talked about what the opportunity of pediatrics means. It's a long-term strategy we've been pursuing as we ran the endocrine business for profitability versus significant growth. We now believe that every 10% share in kids will represent about $150 million in net revenue to mankind. As we look out, the NHEL 3 data continues to be educated out there in the marketplace and presented, and the international opportunity continues to grow. And then as we close out here on 101 and 201, 101 is a significant unmet need here in NTM. And every 1,000 patients we believe will be $100 million in net revenue. And on 201, the market is so large, we just need to make sure we have a product that works to help these patients who really have very little options to extend or enhance their life. We're looking forward to continue to build upon these catalysts to make mankind a great opportunity. We have several upcoming scientific conferences, starting with iSPOR in Montreal here in May, where we'll present one of our first pharmacoeconomic analysis of Afrezza, followed by ACE, which is a clinical endocrine conference, and ADA here in Chicago in June. We look forward to these opportunities to discuss and present our new data. And with that said, operator, we'll now turn our call over for Q&A.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please click on the raise hand button which can be found on the black bar at the bottom of your screen. When it is your turn, you will receive a message on your screen from the host allowing you to talk and then you will hear your name called. Please accept, unmute your audio and ask your question. We will wait a moment to allow the queue to form. Our first question comes from Faisal Khursid from Learink. Faisal, please unmute your line and ask your question.

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Heidi
Analyst, Leerink Partners (on behalf of Faisal Khursid)

Hi, this is Heidi on for Faisal. Thanks for taking our question. Regarding Mankind 201, can you provide some initial thoughts on what a phase two, three trial design for Mankind 201 could look like and any feedback you received from the FDA? And did they align on a seamless study design? Thanks.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Hi, thank you for the question. We aren't given too much guidance yet on the feedback from the FDA. What I can say on the phase two, three design was more for a global trial. So I think that'll be more of a question as we get to XUS authorities. I think on the trial design, we are thinking of several dose arm trial compared to a placebo. And I think there's a few last minute discussion points we're having around Is it on top of profanadone or naive patients or patients that are previously treated but not tolerating existing products? So that's probably the extent we can share at this point.

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Heidi
Analyst, Leerink Partners (on behalf of Faisal Khursid)

Got it. Thanks so much.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Olivia Breyer from Kantor. Olivia, please unmute your line and ask your question.

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Olivia Breyer
Analyst, Kantor

Hi, good morning, guys. Thank you for the question. Mike, wanted to follow up on your IPF study, especially as it relates to endpoints. Maybe it's a little premature to ask, but are you guys looking to measure FVC in that study? And maybe just any comments around whether you're hoping to actually show improvement from baseline versus just a delta from the placebo arm? And then also, if there's anything you can tell us with respect to dose levels, and then I've got a follow-up question on FVC here.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So I think we'll be looking at a couple different doses. We're still finalizing the protocol, as you can imagine. But conceptually, we're looking at a couple doses. And I think the question is, do you combine those doses for analysis versus placebo? or do we look for a dose response by the highest dose versus mid or low? That's generally where we're going at this point. We are looking for a Delta fungal placebo. We're not scaling it for a statistical endpoint or powering it to have a distinct difference in terms of, you know, should it be a hundred Delta versus 50, but we are looking to get enough patients enrolled so that we can see a Delta to have comfort as we go into phase three with that, with that, efficacy could look like as we scale the next generation, the next part of the trial.

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Olivia Breyer
Analyst, Kantor

Okay, understood. And then obviously Tyveso IPF data coming up in a few months for the nebulizer. I know they've talked about a potential bridging study for DPI. Do you know at this point if that would be an inferiority study between the two, DPI and the nebulized formulation? And anything you can tell us at this point in terms of timing around when that could kick off and how long that could realistically take?

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

I think it's too premature to comment yet. I think UT and us will be meeting very shortly to discuss these things. And we'll have some insights from the IPF meeting we had for 201 that I think will feed into the Tyveso discussion as well. So, yeah. I think give us another quarter or two. I know waiting for the Teton two results is one of the first focuses to obviously get that readout. But then the second focus, they have some preliminary ideas and I think we'll have a solid plan. I think we believe it'll be a breeze-like study as opposed to a large-scale trial. So I think that's the direction I've heard from UT. But again, I would defer to them to comment for their initial thoughts, but that's generally the comments I've heard.

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Olivia Breyer
Analyst, Kantor

Okay, understood. Helpful. Thank you, guys. Congrats on the quarter.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gregory Renza at RBC. Gregory, please unmute your line and ask your question.

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Anishan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets (on behalf of Gregory Renza)

Good morning, Mike and team. It's Anishan for Greg. Congrats on the progress this quarter and thanks for taking our questions. Just a couple from us. First, on the label update for adults that you spoke about, maybe if you could just give some color on the rationale behind the update and how you're thinking about the delta in uptake in adults. And second, just given the macro backdrop, how are you thinking about the potential impact to supply chain for Afrezza the manufacturing of Tevesa DPI, and even longer term that on 101 and 201, just as we think about APIs, parts related to technosphere, dry powder, etc. Thanks so much.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. A lot of questions wrapped up there. I'll try to hit them all. I think on the dosing, we are looking to – we know from all the data we've given, we've published and presented, that a better conversion dose leads to better timing range, better control in the first two hours. So we're hoping that that label change will be approved here in Q4. There's another party label change where we're asking for that. We'll see if that happens as well. That should help us commercially. I think on the adult uptake, we are looking to scale faster where we are, even with the current footprint, but maybe expanding that footprint as we go into the second half. So we do believe there's upside growth in the execution on the adult side. But the real focus of the team right now is preparing for PEDS and getting the core functional parts of the launch in place now that we're meeting with the board very shortly. On the supply chain, given that we're predominantly U.S. manufactured, we don't anticipate much impact from tariffs. Maybe I'll let Chris comment on a couple of those.

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Chris Prentice
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think it's just important to remember that, you know, AFREZA, as well as Tyveso DPI, as well as our two pipeline programs in 101 and 201 are all manufactured out of our Connecticut facility. So there's certainly certain materials that are purchased from other places throughout the world. You know, the tariff situation is still evolving, I think is fair to say. But what we are aware of right now We feel good that our key products are either exempt at this point in time or we are in a good position to manage through it.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

And another thing about us is we had several quarters of Vigo supplies here in the U.S. We were able to slow down shipments there just to kind of see where this goes to minimize any impact. But we do believe Vigo will be exempt from tariffs if it does go forward as is. So we feel pretty good about minimal impact overall. But again, time will tell. It's a day-to-day situation for all of us.

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Anishan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets (on behalf of Gregory Renza)

Great. Thanks. Appreciate it.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andreas. Andreas, please, could you unmute your line and ask your question?

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Andreas
Analyst

All right, good morning, and thanks for taking our questions. Lots of focus on IPF, understandably so. Could you just give us a sense of, I mean, with the rapidly evolving clinical development treatment landscape, can you give us a sense of where you see 201 and even some color on DPI and fitting in the treatment landscape? And then I have a quick one follow up after that. Thanks.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'm surprised none of you're asking about 101, but I'll hold back. On the 201, I think as we look out, the landscape obviously is challenging, meaning compliant had an abysmal failure there in Q4. It's unfortunate for patients. We know this is a very tough disease to treat. But as we look out for an attentive, remember, 80% of patients generally aren't on treatment or can't tolerate existing treatments. So our real focus is on how do we expand the opportunity to help more patients and and hopefully bring a tolerable OFEV-like regimen to market. We believe inhalant and tetanus could be a background of therapy for the other new drugs coming. So when we think about Tyvesa DPI or the new BI launch or the Pristamiraz1, if these products make it to market, we'll be very excited because we do believe they'll be used in combination and that combo treatments will hopefully provide better efficacy for patients, assuming they can get the tolerability, which I think has been great. the rate limiting issue to date is the two drugs out there are not very tolerable. And when you combine them, you're getting overlapping toxicity. So to have something that we think could provide some efficacy potentially the equivalent dose or higher doses, then how do we then think about that in combination with the new treatments coming? And I think that's really evolving quickly over the next year or two as our trials move to phase two, three. And that's also creating one of the, I don't want to comment too much on the study design because we're trying to think through, you know, what do you do as these new agents come online over the next one and two years? And how would you add those into your trial or add a tetanib inhale on top of them? So, you know, there's a lot of Differences of opinion on can you run a placebo trial? Can you run a naive trial? Can it be on top of background? And in the case of Nutendip, it doesn't make sense always to have it on top of background therapy because one of the drugs we're trying to replace would be oral Ofev. So hopefully that helps give you some color.

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Andreas
Analyst

Yeah, and then obviously, you know, when it comes to inhaled therapies, delivery is paramount and, you know, we contend that device plays a key role in that. How are you guys thinking just broadly, maybe it's too soon or, you know, you do have a lot on your plate, but how are you thinking about opportunities to collaborate with other companies on the delivery side of things? Yeah, thanks.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

So I think on 201, you know, obviously our device platform has been very successful in the, in the pH and pH ILD market. I would say in the diabetes market, the device platform is not the reason it's not successful. So we're planning to use the same device platform for 201. And, you know, that device has been used quite widely now amongst pulmonologist treaters in that space. So we think that's an advantage of having the clinical experience with the device and the training that it'll just blend into those centers. On the case of clofazamine, we'll start with a nebulizer, a jet nebulizer that is pretty widely utilized in this patient population already because they have other products they're nebulizing. But we have a dry powder version that we are looking to hopefully fit into the DreamBuild platform. And so as we look out, that's one of our core focuses. I'm not sure we need other device platforms. They're usually off the shelf, and not many of them have been scaled successfully. But we're always open to ideas for innovation and patient support.

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Andreas
Analyst

I appreciate and congrats on the quarter. I'll jump back in the queue.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you so much. Our next question comes from Yun Zong from Wedbush. Yun, please unmute your line and ask your question.

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Yun Zong
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Hi, good morning. Thank you very much for taking the question. And so my question is on Afrezza. It's very encouraging to see a higher increase in NRX versus TRX. Would you attribute that to maybe higher promotional activity or new data or the combination of the both?

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

I think it's a combination of what you just said, the new data combined with the execution at the Salesforce. So we started a strong education campaign around October timeframe on the inhale three data set. And I would say we had several speaker events and national events that led to a strong Q4 campaign. And in Q1, we didn't make any major changes to our sales force. We did increase our sales force a little bit in terms of having more feet on the ground. We did increase our share of voice at the ATT conference, which I think were good investments. And hopefully those will continue to propel us as we come into Q2 and Q3. So we're hearing good feedback. We're hearing less resistance. We're hearing good managed care coverage this year. So I'd say overall for Fresa, I mean, I'm very optimistic that we'll continue to see nice progress, especially as the new team comes on board and starts to make the changes they're making and those flow out through the field through customers, so.

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Yun Zong
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Would you say the strategy will be the same for pediatric patient?

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Say that again, I'm sorry, I heard pediatric patient.

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Yun Zong
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Right, so going into pediatric potential launch and what would be your strategy just like the same as you took for adult patient?

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

I think the strategy for Pete is actually very different. 80% of the patients are treated in a children's hospital or academic medical center. And that will take a very different launch strategy as we go forward. And I think you'll be hearing some of that rollout as we get to the next quarter. We have a pretty comprehensive plan we're working on. And I think that will be shared once it's approved by the board. But at this point, it is not going to be the same as the adult side. We expect that to be a very different launch and a launch trajectory from where we are in adults.

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Yun Zong
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Thank you very much.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Patron from Mizuho. Anthony, please unmute your line and ask your question.

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Anthony Patron
Analyst, Mizuho

Hi, thanks, and congrats on a strong start to the year here. I'll start with one on pediatric aphrasia and then move over to the pipeline. On pediatric aphrasia, maybe, Mike, can you give us an idea when you think about how that patient population behaves and your thoughts on adherence? You know, obviously with PEDS, you have a caregiver. tends to be a slightly more diligent sort of patient population relative to adult. So maybe just your thoughts here on what adherence looks like in pediatric diabetes and really what the uptake could be. I would imagine maybe there's a potential for a more rapid uptake in peds versus adults and all of the follow-up.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thank you. Nice to hear you and thank you for your initiation there. The PETE side, to your point, has different dynamics than the adult side. Number one, I think PETE endos are much more progressive doctors and they're more used to trying new technologies. An example is that you just have a group of patients who have parents that are very active in their kid's life. Anyone that has kids knows you're going to fight for your children more than anything in the world. and when it comes to newly diagnosed children, you're dealt with a life sentence, unfortunately. I think that's where we have a strong opportunity with the Fresas. Who really wants to learn how to count carbs, inject insulin multiple times a day, worry about hypo, nocturnal, dead in bed? These are not fun things as a parent. Hearing the stories of parents sleeping next to their child because they're afraid they're going to go into a seizure at night. These are all the things that go through pediatric care. And so we do think having something like Afreza, which we've seen over time, has less hypos in our pivotal trials. The onset and offset of action allows you to predict a little bit more of your control. And the use of CGM these days, I think, will give parents some comfort when they start to get used to the AFREZA profile. So I think what that means is a consumer approach will be important in PEDS. And whether that's the parents and educating them and or the kids that are teenagers in camps, that's a whole different game than what we've had to deal with on AFREZA adults. The doctors themselves, I mean, I've met at least 10, 15 of them in the last two months here. They are very open to Afreza. Once they saw the lung safety data, that was the number one question coming into PEDS. And that lung safety data looks very strong over the 26 and 52 weeks. So I think that question is off the table in terms of any concerns of lung safety or any impact of Afreza there. So that's also the question. important point for launch. And then the last one is your comment on compliance. And that's one of our surprises in the AFRESA trial was how well, especially the teenagers did. They're hormonal. They're taking high doses. They are rebellious in some cases. They're worried about weight gain of insulin. We saw very high success rates in that population. And so I think your average diagnosis is around 12 years old. And those kids are going through major hormonal changes between 12 and 15. So we think that, you know, so far people will probably more likely adhere to Afrezza, where the younger kids may have some challenges in the schools and the nurses and administration. We'll continue to work on programs to support that, where the teenagers, you know, can take the product themselves and carry it much easier for them to control their sugar. So that's generally what we see and feel on the Afrezza Peds and some of the high-level thoughts on the launch.

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Anthony Patron
Analyst, Mizuho

Very helpful. And pipeline, this is more of a totality question. Really, when you look at the TTOM programs with United, and then you take 101 clofazamine, 201 in IPF, both you and your partner go for the same indication. And just looking at a blue sky scenario, That's a heck of a lot of technosphere devices if it all comes to fruition. So just a recap on the Danbury capacity. If the blue sky scenario plays out over the next five years, would you need a growth capex injection? Thanks.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

You know, I think we can all thank Al Mann for dreaming big. He built a huge scale facility for diabetes. And as you know, that disease is 30 million people just in the U.S., let alone, you know, 300 to 500 million worldwide. So when you think about capacity of device manufacturing, we have a very high capacity to scale up there if needed. And I don't expect any major capex. On the filling equipment lines, we believe 201 can be fit into the current facility we already built. And whether that's excess capacity on the Afrezza line or an old production line as we scale up to Taiviso. And we have another line that's idle. So we have plenty of equipment to fill cartridges for 201 if that continues to grow as well as Afrezza. So we're not too worried about the capacity there. And then on 101, you may or may not have noticed over the last couple of quarters, but we actually have been building out the manufacturing capacity there in Danbury. The equipment's been coming in. We're actually doing a field application test this week. And that is already being built and in our CapEx run rate. So I think most of the pipeline... And CapEx is already behind us. I'm sure there'll be small things here and there, Chris, but I don't see any major coming in the next five years unless we were to buy something that needed something that would be different. But where we are today, I think we don't need to build another plant in the next five years. And we have plenty of capacity to support the growth of the company. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you. That concludes the question and answer portion of today's call. I will now hand the call back to the Mankind team for closing remarks.

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Michael Castagna
Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you, everyone, for all your interest in Mankind, the questions here. We're really proud of the work we've done. 201, you know, we had a great, great discussion. We got great direction we need to go. On 101, the pipeline with clofazamine, which we were nervous at how fast or slow that trial would go. As you can see, the trial has done very well in terms of enrollment, and we remain on track there. And then the PEDS for Fres is on track to be filed here mid-year. So everything is going in the right direction. The tariffs, obviously, are impacting the overall economy. But for mankind, we believe we can navigate through those headwinds. And we've got a great company for investors and a great company for employees and patients. So thank you again for everything and look forward to talking to you soon at the upcoming conferences or on the next quarterly call. Talk soon.

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