Monro, Inc.

Q4 2023 Earnings Conference Call

5/18/2023

spk00: Morning, everyone. I'm Michael Lasser, the Hardline, Broadline, and Food Retail Analyst from UBS. And welcome to day two of our UBS Global Consumer and Retail Conference. We could not be more excited to have the team from Monroe with us. Monroe has been a longstanding participant in the UBS Consumer Conference, and we are so glad that you are back this year. With us from Monroe is the company's Chief Financial Officer, Brian D. Ambrosia. And you're into his role? Over a year, Felix Fechsler, who runs the investor relations function, and Monroe's made a lot of progress in a transformation effort that it's been executing over the last few years, operates in a very dynamic and interesting area of the economy, the auto care industry, which tends to be pretty needs-based, and at this time when the economy is uncertain, it's It's good to have a need-based offering for consumers. So with that being said, and if you could give the group a sense of who the customer is for Monroe, and what have you seen, what have your observations been about that consumer?
spk01: Yeah, absolutely. We really appreciate you having us back again, Michael, and good morning, everybody. When we look at our customer, our customer... cuts across some different demographics but they have one thing in common is they're driving a typically our sweet spot a six to twelve year old vehicle and we'll see vehicles certainly newer than that and we see our fair share of vehicles older than 12 years especially as the car parks been aging but the one thing in common is that they are driving an older vehicle and there's you know different reasons for that it may be a single person household driving you know making $50,000 or less driving it for obvious economic reasons and affordability issues of new vehicles as they look at their overall spend across their their categories and it's the same thing for households hundred thousand dollars or lower that are that are doing that as well we'll also see some more affluent households that have maybe two or three Pre-vehicle, the third vehicle may be for a daughter or son, and those create that third vehicle that's aged. And they're likely the customer of both the dealer for their newer vehicles and of the aftermarket. So it's really based on the vehicle. And that's based on rational economic behavior, where as the vehicle depreciates, you start to look at the cost of servicing that vehicle look to really kind of shop for value and the aftermarket provides that value against the depreciation depreciating asset for the for the consumer so I would say as we look at the behavior of that consumer recently in this economic environment across those income thresholds we have seen a shop for value we've seen a good example of that being trade down within tires and it's not just you know the lower end of the tire tier three down to opening price point it's our tier one tires looking for manufacturer rebates looking for offers looking even to trade down and see what value they can get maybe from the next the next brands that are down on the price tier we've also seen some deferral on the service side and that's because trade down opportunities are fewer in service you either do the work or you don't you don't necessarily have as much ability to trade down on the price point and so we've seen deferral open up on the service side but to your point earlier Michael the the auto aftermarket particularly the service and tire business that Monroe operates in which is about 50% tires and 50% service for us service being under hood under car repair those are non-discretionary there's no such thing as a mile that doesn't include wear and tear on a vehicle so we're seeing the consumer continue to drive We're seeing the cars continue to age. That means the work needs to be done. On tires, it's being done at value price points. On service, it's being elongated but cannot be put off forever. But we're certainly seeing those trends more pronounced in the lower income levels.
spk00: That's very helpful. And I have some good news. My 15-year-old daughter, Sydney Lasser, got her learner's permit on Monday. So you may have a future consumer in the not-too-distant future. We'll be looking forward to that. For sure. Now, it's been quite a few days with the events of what's happening in the banking system. Give the crowd a sense for how you see any impact of some disruption in the capital markets or the banking system and your customer or the auto aftermarket in general.
spk01: First of all, we certainly have no exposure to the banking issues that may or may not play out here. But as it relates to the customer, I think that's really the question. And I think that as you look forward, we think about outcomes of this environment and certainly of policy. And therefore, in one of those outcomes is obviously the possibility of recession. We don't root for it. We don't root against it. We just know that it's in the possibilities of outcomes. And so for us, we look and say the auto aftermarket, because of its non-discretionary nature, is very resilient during recessionary periods. It tends to be an environment where consumers continue to invest in their vehicles because of a trade down ultimately from a new or a used car purchase to maintaining what's in the driveway. It's a period of time where vehicle miles travels tend to hold up pretty well. as you see consumers trading off of other forms of transportation and driving more for other vacations or other recreation. And so we've done very well and held up very well during recessionary periods. A good example of that being 2009 through 2011, our business comped about 6.5% during that period of time. So it shows you the resiliency of that. And obviously, that was a disinflationary period of time post-Great Recession, and it was a period of time where so it was really led by by by car count and traffic those comps so for us that's been that's been our outlook that whether it's rate hikes or tightening credit conditions if that's going to pressure the consumer maybe tip the the economy into a slowdown or a contraction we operate well in that environment yeah it's super helpful in in the past have you seen any changes in vehicle miles driven which either traveled which is such an important measure for and driver for the for the aftermarket enduring these recessionary periods yeah I think that it's our talk about vehicle miles traveled it really is the number one metric leading metric that we're going to look at is a company because it's the one item that really helps you get a sense for the demand profile and vehicle miles traveled have been pretty stable on an upward march as the car park is expanded due to population growth as the car park is also aged more miles are being driven within our sweet spot so the average age of vehicle since I've been at Monroe has gone up from about 910 to over 12 now and that means that more miles are being driven in that sweet spot of ours as the miles driven also expands the one shock that happened obviously during related to vehicle miles traveled was during COVID in the lockdowns. You saw a 50% drop. The good news is right now we're back to pre-pandemic levels in vehicle miles traveled. We may have forgone some of the growth we would have otherwise seen over the last few years, but at least we're back to pre-pandemic. And I think, you know, looking back on that 9 to 11 period, I'd expect continued incremental, you know, kind of normal growth on trend from pre-COVID.
spk00: Before we move on to some of the specific strategies that Monroe has been doing, I want to touch on one of the other dynamics within the aftermarket, which has been there's been a drop in new cars. It's been difficult to find a lightly used car. And as a result, perhaps folks have been maintaining their vehicles for longer. How do you see the relationship between the demand that the aftermarket has been experiencing and changes in either new or lightly used?
spk01: Yeah, that's a great question. I think the first thing to anchor on is the US auto aftermarket has over 300 million vehicles in it. So it's not a cohort that changes rapidly. And that's an advantage for the aftermarket in that it's a stable customer base that over time has been incrementally aging and incrementally driving more miles in those serviceable sweet spots of the aftermarket. So any changes that occur, they occur slowly. The scrappage rates have been reduced, to your point, as people are holding on to vehicles longer, and the new cars coming into that zero to five range have been lower. And so that benefits us to the extent that people are continuing to invest in their vehicles. And we think that, as we talked just a few minutes ago, the recessionary trend, that's a typical recessionary trend, and now it's obviously playing out in a more of an inflationary environment as well. Over the long term, as we saw after the great financial crisis, it does cradle sometimes an air pocket that needs to then flow through. So those, you know, we benefit from robust new car sales because ultimately those new cars become cars in the aftermarket in the next five or six years. Correct. So we saw that after the GFC that, you know, back out in like maybe 15, 16, 17, you start to see an air pocket from those low SAR years. But again, you're talking about, I think, marginal changes because of the size of the aftermarket.
spk00: And on gas prices, we've seen some volatility. There's a perception out there that the consumer wants to spend a fixed amount on their car. So when gas prices go up, they might defer some maintenance. When gas prices come down, because you have this mindset that you only want to spend a fixed amount, maybe you'll go back and do some maintenance. Is that a misperception, or is there... some truth to the relationship between gas prices and the aftermarket?
spk01: I think as we look at gas prices historically, but let's go pre-one year ago when they spike. Yeah, exactly. It's been more of a correlation between gas prices and vehicle miles traveled. So the price of the pump influences how much you utilize the car. which means that service cycles might extend if less miles are being put on a vehicle per day or per week or per month. So that's been the traditional correlation. But I think what we saw beginning a year ago and a little bit previous is gas prices became an overall share of wallet concern because food prices, shelter, transportation, they were all going up at the same time. So that was causing the consumer to really rationalize their spends. as it relates to how much can I afford in this part of my budget, which is auto care, inclusive of gas prices, knowing that the other pieces of the wallet were getting stretched even further. So for us, we saw that dynamic and certainly have seen some relief in that as the gas prices have abated. But I do think, like I said earlier, we're seeing a consumer still shopping for value and still deferring when they're able to.
spk00: Got it. Speaking of inflation, it's been across the board. The aftermarket tends to deliver an inelastic good. It's a needs-based offering. So give us a sense for across the industry how much pricing has been passed through. What do you think the outlook for pricing is from here? And how has Monroe been navigating through this? very challenging environment from a pricing perspective.
spk01: Yeah, it's an important question and it has been a challenging environment. I'll split it between our two businesses or two main categories, tires 50% and service 50% of our business. On the tire side, the tire cost is the actual cost of the tire is the largest input cost for us when we do a tire sale. The installation is a much smaller cost. It's an hour of a technician's time. And the tire cost is the vast majority of that bill of materials. And so it's very important to make sure that you're passing along any cost inflation that you're seeing on that tire. And we've seen, we scrape about 100 DMAs across our country and know our competitors pricing and competitive set across. And we price accordingly to where we want to be positioned against those competitors. And we've seen rational behavior in terms of passing price increases on. Now on the flip side, as that price has moved up, you've seen the consumer trade down to lower options. So they're clearly reacting to those price increases. On the service side of the business, the part is a much smaller piece. And the labor is the larger piece of service. Service comes at higher volumes because it's more labor intensive and less material intensive. But labor is still the largest component in the bill of materials for a service job. We've seen labor wage increases. We've made investments in labor quantity. to service and grow our business. But at the same time, because of the deferral cycle on the service side, I think you've seen less price pass to the consumer and a much more competitive environment on the service side as companies are trying to really position themselves so as the consumer does shop in those categories, they're going to be looking for value and they're going to need to make choices and you want to be priced right there. So I think that's the overall impact. As you look at What that does generally to our margins, it's obviously a trade down in tires is pressures margin, not fully passing wage increases pressures margin. And then you see also the fact that in that environment, you're selling more tires than service because of the deferral in service. So that's also pressures margin. So mix and price have been a headwind for us in FY23. We haven't captured as much as we've received in terms of cost. And at the same time, we're making labor investments. So I think 23 was a year of some margin contraction for those reasons. As we look forward to our FY24, we certainly expect to recapture some of that as we leverage our technicians and also our ability to influence the mix through pricing and assortment.
spk00: And how is the market for techs right now? It's been a challenge. Maybe you'll get some... equity research analysts to come and want to be a tech given that there is a shortage of techs in this country and it can be a nicely lucrative career. Are you seeing any easing in some of those pressures?
spk01: The competition for technician labor has been one that we've been fighting since I came to Monroe in 2013 and prior. There's been a multi-year kind of generational trend of less technicians coming to the trade schools and a shortage versus where the demand is which is a growing aftermarket. And so that's something that we're well versed in attacking that challenge even pre-COVID. Now COVID certainly exacerbated that. And so what we've been able to do I think is very important in terms of adding 650 technicians in this environment where it is a battle for technicians. And so I think that says a lot about Monroe's value proposition to these technicians, the career pathing and training, the investments that we're making in technology, and also the productivity of our stores because ultimately technicians stay where they're seeing growth and they're going to get cars to be able to see and money to be made. And ultimately, you know, for us to attract and retain them, we've done a good job across those those fronts and that's I think a real important part of our growth has been the our ability to add labor to our stores it's still challenging you know wages have increased as we I just mentioned in the previous question but that's something that we need to manage we're at the end of our of our technician investment in terms of quantity of tax we feel good about where we're at there we're really focused on now the productivity of the technicians we've added and So that takes some pressure off the ability or the need for us to go out and recruit more technicians than we lose. But at the same time, we continue to expect that wage pressure will continue into 24, and that's our job to manage through productivity improvements and pricing.
spk00: The mantra in the financial services industry is also do more with less. So we get it. This is a point, I think, a good one to turn to some of the strategies that Monroe has put into place for a while now. And for those who are a bit less familiar with the story, it seems like Monroe has pivoted over the last five, six years under your leadership and the rest of the team, where historically Monroe's focus was really on doing acquisitions, M&A, and the old adage was, When during tough times, you buy a little bit more. During good times, the assets that you have would do a little bit better. And I think this is no longer your father's Monroe. In the last five, six years, the focus has been on it's less about accumulating assets and more bringing together the assets that we have. So A, is that fair? And B, Where is Monroe in this transformation?
spk01: Yeah, I would say that's fair. I would say that the company has done a tremendous job of consolidating the auto aftermarket. And I think our previous leadership saw opportunities to do that even before others, both in the auto aftermarket and also in the financial sponsor community. I think that Monroe was on the leading edge of a lot of that consolidation. And it's really allowed us to grow to the scale that we're at now, where scale becomes a real competitive differentiator for us to maintain our rock-solid balance sheet, but still make investments in technicians and labor, make investments in price and in assortment with our tire category and investments in our stores and people. So I think the scale that we've achieved through that acquisition strategy is a real competitive advantage for us. At the same time, I think you're right. I think there has been a pivot from a focus maybe of importance on the roll-up to, okay, let's look at the assets that we've acquired and make sure that we have scalable, standardized processes so that we're not only taking advantage of our scale in terms of price advantage through supplier agreements and assortment and all of that, but also taking advantage of our scale through guest experience and making sure that we're leveraging our collective chain to deliver a consistent and guest experience that leads to repeat business, ultimately supporting organic growth in addition to the continued opportunity of M&A growth that is there for us. And so that more balanced approach, I think, to operational improvement as well as continued M&A is the philosophy of the business now. I would say it's not one or the other. We still have an expectation that our unit count will continue to grow and we will continue to invest in M&A. But at this point in Monroe, I think we look at our largest opportunity is to really deliver those sustainable mid-single digit cotton store sales and then to recapture some of the margin from FY23 and continue to expand both gross and operating margins. and then generate a lot of cash through our working capital management as well as through operations. Those things position us to be a great acquirer going forward.
spk00: And with that being said, one of the key elements of the strategy has been to focus on some of the stores that had not performed as well. And so, A, why has that been the case? And B, it seems like whatever you're doing, and if you could outline those steps, it's been working because you've seen
spk01: improved performance especially at those underperforming stores I agree I think that what we've done across the chain we've done in a nothing different at this underperforming stores we've just maybe done in a little more concentrated way in a little of in advance of the chain so meaning we started with the underperforming stores we gave them a concentrated focus of technician staffing and technician productivity improvements through the training program and also through that standardized in-store execution so that then scaled throughout the chain and I think you saw the benefits for the last three quarters of 10 to 15 percent top line growth at those underperforming stores and then last quarter you know five percent growth at the rest of the chain I think that's all coming together to deliver outsized performance there it all starts with the staffing in order to to deliver on the in-store experience that leads to a good guest experience but also a rewarding experience for Monroe in terms of our ability to grow sales and see more cars it comes to staffing and there's a couple reasons why I think you know I won't get into maybe all the reasons why those these stores may be a tritted staffing throughout the years but I can say post implementation of the staffing why I think that they've responded very well in terms of comp growth the first is you're able to be much more convenient to the guest. So that store manager is able to ask the guest when they would like to come in versus talking about how busy the shop is and I can't get you until next week, all the things that I think we've probably all heard.
spk00: That's what I tell investors. They want to talk about the road story.
spk01: Exactly. So it allows us to be much more convenient to that guest appointment. And then on top of that, when they do come in, it allows us to deliver on the promise of getting their car to them when they expect. But the important thing in between is it allows us to really invest the time in doing a full courtesy inspection of the vehicle. We're not just processing the car for what they came in for, but we're completing in a thorough and thoughtful way the inspection of the vehicle, which either leads to more business that day or it doesn't. But it ultimately allows us to have a conversation with the guest about what their car may need now or may need the next time or the time after that. And that builds that trust, especially when those things come true in the future. That is an important part of what labor in the store can do for you.
spk00: And has this been a training journey? Is it a compensation journey? Have you had to change the compensation to incentivize some of these behaviors, change the metrics that they're focused on? Can you give the audience a bit more insight into that?
spk01: It starts as a staffing journey, like many things do. But within staffing, it's not just quantity of staffing. It's also the complement within the store. So we've looked at our models of our ratio of higher-level technicians versus our entry-level general service technicians, our ratio of how many people on the front shop taking care of the guests at the counter versus those that are doing the work in the bays, and really rebalancing that in a lot of these smaller stores to optimize performance. that for, you know, to be able to see more vehicles and spend more time with each vehicle that we see. So that's been the first part. And then certainly behind that has been scheduling. We implemented a scheduling software during COVID that's benefiting us in spades now. It's in the past Monroe, you know, and a lot of these investments Monroe made just before and into COVID related to technology in the stores. A big one has been our ability to manage our labor force through a online scheduling tool. uh in the past it was paper-based and now we have visibility to all of our schedules we know when schedules are efficient or not efficient optimized or not and that's allowing us to make sure we have the right tech stats the staff in the store but they're scheduled at the right times of the day and on the right days of the week that really are going to optimize the guest experience again um and then finally it is training i mean we again during pre-covet uh we launched monroe university and we're really leveraging monroe university as well as in-person training from a more filled out field training staff and utilizing Teams and Zoom and all of those things to do remote live trainings as well. Again, some key initiatives, things such as phone training for our front counter, courtesy inspection training for our in-store teammates, educational selling for our front counter, and then things just as technical trainings like how to really utilize our new battery testers and things like that that bring all of that together in store. And the focus, like we talked about, has been on those underperforming stores, and then that's starting to spread throughout the chain.
spk00: I might add, you've made an investment in investor relations that's been paying off, too. Yes, I would say so. On the subject of the underperforming stores and taking what you've learned to the rest of the chain, is there anything different about the rest of the chain that wouldn't make it relevant for the experience and the good news that you've had at the underperforming stores?
spk01: Yeah, I think the full chain benefits from everything that we're doing around technician staffing, around the complement optimization, around our scheduling tool, certainly the training. They just have, you know, they've had fairly good comp performance along the way, so, you know, their opportunity for outsized comp growth is not as pronounced as the underperforming stores the underperforming stores have had multi-year declines that we're expecting multi-year outperformance of the chain as they return to sales levels and profitability profitability levels that are much more comparable to look-alike stores in their areas and how what's the what's the size of the cohort of the underperforming stores versus the size there's about 300 of our 1300 in
spk00: The example you cited about the labor scheduling tool that you put in is a good one. It shows the opportunity to deploy technology to replace tasks that were being done manually and use that to improve the guest experience. Are there other examples of that that are still on the horizon that can be implemented or other types of strategies that can be implemented that you can use a similar approach?
spk01: Absolutely. We have a robust technology roadmap. Some other things in addition to just what we've recently implemented, the scheduling tool, we've re-implemented an entire company-wide phone system, which really allows us to capture all of our call data. We're using that to monitor the efficacy of our call conversion into appointments. So that's how it helps us to also give early indications of Do we have a staffing issue at a store that's preventing us from converting calls into appointments at the same ratio as we would expect? Do we have a selling issue where our store managers need some training on how to better sell the appointment on the phone and follow the scripts that we've been able to provide? So that technology allows us really full visibility and ability to listen to all those phone calls so we can understand what the guest is asking and how our stores are responding to that. we implemented a category management tool for tires which in previous to this we were managing tire category through spreadsheets and now we're using Blue Yonder to be able to really manage our largest category and that's helping to inform a lot of these pricing decisions and it's also a real point of interaction for planning and forecasting as we partner with ATD who's our now our primary tire distributor as well as our category captains in the branded side to be able to make sure that we're making the right assortment choices and the pricing accordingly. So those are examples of recent technology implementations. But as we look forward, we have what we call the Monroe Digital Shop. And that's our initiative to really transform the way we execute in-store and then how that ultimately interacts with the guest. And a good example of that is tablet technology. All of our stores are equipped with tablets now. And that tablet technology is on a roadmap. The first part of that is It's basically utilizing technology to allow the tech to be able to look at things on the tablet, look at the engine, wiring diagrams. They have a rescue lens, which allows you to get somebody on the tablet with you while you video what's going on in the engine. You bring in additional resources to that tech right at the car where it's doing the work. were in the past that would require go into the office, print out the wiring diagram. So the efficiency of the back shop by putting that technology in the hands of the tech is important. But it also becomes a launching point for further enhancements. And one of the things that we will be piloting in FY24 will be the electronic courtesy inspection. So the paper-based form that you currently would receive if you went to Monroe, the red, yellow, green on brakes, tires, all the 32 points that we look at, will be transformed into the tablet. And so that does a couple things for us. Similar with scheduling where when it's paper-based, we didn't know if a schedule was even being posted for that store, when it was being posted, how effective it was. You take now that paper-based CI where we have lower visibility to what's going on at the store. You put it electronically. Now we can see making sure every car is getting a courtesy inspection. We can look at the efficacy of the courtesy inspection to make sure it doesn't look like it's being pencil whipped. And we can make sure that those things that are being found on the courtesy inspection are ended up on the invoice to the consumer, or at least as items that were rejected by the consumer for further marketing to them later. So it really ties all of it together just by getting that on the tablet. And it's a much better experience for the teammate as well. So there's a lot of things then that branch out from that, but that's really what our roadmap is, is creating the tablet to really be the backbone of both the back shop and the front shop.
spk00: And at the risk of being cliche to use the baseball analogy, it does seem like this is all still early innings and the benefit is on the comes. Is that fair and where is the... roll out of the tablets and some of the other initiatives?
spk01: Absolutely. It's been within the last year that we've rolled out the tablets for purposes of the technician being able to do work at the car. It'll be in the next year that we move into the more robust tablet-based inspection. And then beyond that, it unlocks a lot in the way we can interact with the guests, both through SMS text, email, being able, you know, a lot of guests don't wait for their vehicle, but you still want to be able to do a show and tell of what they need, the ability to capture pictures of their vehicle to show them exactly what you're talking about if they're not in the store to be able to walk them out to the bay and point to the issue at hand. So it just provides a more robust framework for us to do that. And ultimately, I think it builds a lot more transparency with the guests, which in an industry that needs trust, it's important.
spk00: And it seems like the auto aftermarket is an industry that's been a little slower to adopt technology, especially because you have a lot of independents who may not have the resources to make these types of investments. So Monroe's going from maybe behind the curve in some of these processes to now seemingly ahead of the curve. So is that a fair characterization?
spk01: I think so. We believe that there are certainly smaller providers and some more not as scaled players that are doing some of these things, but on a scaled basis, we believe this would be industry-leading. We think that we've got the partners to be able to accomplish this in a really, I think, cutting-edge way that puts us, like you said, in a lot of regards at the forefront. So there are areas where we're still playing catch-up, obviously, but I think one of the advantages is we've really leveraged lot of our both technology partners but we have a you know really is Mike talked about Monroe is extremely focused on developing and leveraging strategic relationships and we see that with our with the transaction with it with ATD we see that with our ability to have divested our distribution assets and now you know really leveraging our partners through through our supply chain and all of those relationships they all cumulatively allow us to be more nimble when it comes to trying to do things that are like the tablets.
spk00: And you made the point earlier, which was a good one, that while the focus has been on improving the execution, bringing together this chain and making it an even more powerful platform than it is, there is still an opportunity to consolidate what is a fragmented industry. So can you give us a sense for what the lay of the land looks like in the auto auto care industry? And then I want to get after that, I want to ask a question just around the approach to M&A and doing further deals. Absolutely.
spk01: There's there's over 100,000 service outlets nationally. We're one of the largest, obviously, with 1300. I think the top 10 have only about 15% market share. You can be less than 10 stores, about 10 stores as a tire provider. and be in the top 100 tire chains in the US. So there's a long tail on the fragmentation. And I think the primary reason in addition to the economics for a lot of the roll up and the consolidation thus far has been demographics in terms of first and second generation owners without succession plans and looking for other options for their business. I think that continues. At the same time, I think you see some of the acceleration in both technology as well as what's coming in the car park, whether it's electrification or just needed investments in technology for lower-profile tires or different types of technology to really fully service a guest vehicle or provide the guest experience you want. That requires capital. And so I think that's where our scale, the cost advantages that we have that smaller chains don't enjoy, They put us in a position to buy really good businesses where those companies have done a really good job of building trust and relationship with their guests, but really allow a more capitalized company to come in and make the investments that are needed for what's going to be coming down the pike. I think that could accelerate some of the consolidation. So we think it's a robust environment moving forward for continued consolidation in the industry. And we believe all the things we're doing now are going to set us up to be a big part of that consolidation.
spk00: And what do valuations look like? Does some of this disruption in the credit markets impact that, create more opportunity?
spk01: Yeah. As it relates to valuations, there hasn't been a significant change in the valuations of what I would call Monroe's traditional roll-up stores, those 5 to 40 store chains. you know the purchase price on those are more easily financed or a little less sensitive to cost of capital increases and and those those multiples have been pretty consistent for for a while now where maybe you've seen peak multiples pull back has been maybe some of the larger deals that are more sensitive to that financing but at the same time there's been you know a little less activity in that area as well and what about from a geographic perspective
spk00: Monroe kind of was following a continuous state strategy and then found some opportunities in other parts of the country?
spk01: Yeah, absolutely. We continue to grow and fill in the map. And on the West Coast, we're in California, Nevada. We're up in Idaho. We just recently did an acquisition that added to our presence in Iowa. And then the bulk of our concentration is certainly in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, and continuing to fill out Florida and the southeast. So as we look at that, we have continued opportunities across our existing footprint to continue to build density in a lot of our markets. But at the same time, if we look at our expansion plans, we'd like to continue to build out in the geographies that we've most recently acquired, including the southwest, the southeast. And ultimately, to connect them across the south would be logical, given where new vehicle registrations are and certainly population movement.
spk00: And ultimately, on the distribution side of the aftermarket, we've seen a lot of consolidation, a few big chains to dominate. Would you expect similar outcome on the service side as well, where the bigger are going to become bigger, and it just will be a little bit more difficult for the smaller independents to keep pace? Yeah, I think in terms of the service, the Monroe service business. Yeah, the service business, the industry will become consolidated. Monroe's going to be a leader, but you'll see a few large players.
spk01: I think so. I think you could see consolidation throughout the space of the aftermarket. You've seen some larger M&A already. I think you continue to see that, and I think that presents opportunities for well-capitalized players like Monroe. If you look at Where we're running right now, we're only about 0.7 times levered, bank that to EBITDA. And even though that's our leverage profile right now, we've still deployed a lot of capital during the year in terms of returning cash to shareholders through our share repurchase program, in terms of our dividend, our capex, getting a couple smaller deals done. Yet we still maintain a really attractive leverage profile, and that's because of the cash generation of the business. So for us, that presents a lot of optionality as we look forward on how to use that balance sheet to best drive shareholder returns, and certainly M&A of all sizes are an opportunity for us.
spk00: And you mentioned that Monroe is mindful of the changing dynamics in the vehicle population. It's hard to have a conversation around the aftermarket without talking about the electrification of vehicles. Perception is, is this going to be negative for the industry? Those that might have an electric vehicle, like some of our friends in the audience, might know that electric vehicles burn through tires pretty quickly. So Monroe actually has a really complementary set of assets to service the changing vehicle population. So can you give us a little bit of your perspective on how over time As the vehicle population does change, what does that mean for Monroe?
spk01: Yeah, absolutely. I'll go back to my earlier comment that there are 300 million vehicles in the auto aftermarket. The vast majority, nearly all of those vehicles, are internal combustion engines. So as you move into an era where certain states are going to be phasing out the ability to purchase internal combustion engines in the future, you could have some consequences where that ice population ages out even further meaning you're gonna have people wanting to hold on to internal combustion engine vehicles and invest in them either because of affordability issues on a new EV or just the desire to continue to drive vehicles so we think there's going to be a long serviceable aftermarket for the 300 million combust internal combustion engine vehicles and hybrids that included ice engine going forward that being said there's no doubt that EVs are here and They're in our bays as we speak. If you look out to California and Northern Virginia, Florida, we see electric vehicles every day. But there are certain things you need to prepare for and invest in as you service electric vehicles, and we've done that across our chain. Any one of our stores can see an internal combustion engine vehicle. You have to retrofit your lifts with certain spacers to be able to properly lift an electric vehicle so that you don't damage the battery compartment under it. You have to train your team on how to properly lift the vehicle, because there are certain settings. There's different modes that create some air compression and decompression that allow certain spacing to be achieved so that you don't damage the engine compartment, the battery compartment. So that has all been rolled out across Monroe. All that retrofitting has occurred. All that training has occurred. So we are EV ready. for the services that we currently provide. So what those primarily are coming in for are tires. They are heavier vehicles. They include a lot more torque on the tire, which wear it out faster. But we're seeing it for ride control and also for friction replacement. And all of those services are compatible to our service model. The one area that you get where there is no overlap is fluid exchange, which is oil change, 10% to 15% of our business. That's the area of the 300 million vehicles that will ultimately migrate to the point where we'll have to be able to service oil on those ice engines, but we'll have to be able to be relevant to the battery component, which will ultimately replaces the oil service. Usually those are going to be longer in service duration, but they're going to be at higher ticket. And I'm not talking just battery replacement, which is an opportunity, but it's more battery service. There's a lot of hoses and coolant that goes into keeping those battery compartments cool. There are failure points on those hosing and on those valves. And certainly there is replacement needed on and refresh needed on those coolants to be able to properly function. So those are all opportunities for us in the future as we start to see the critical mass build in. But currently, we've really just trained our team on how to currently service an electric vehicle on the services that they come to us for.
spk00: And in a weird way, as there are more electric vehicles could even be a bigger opportunity for Monroe, because it's going to come from more players than just those that have maybe had a captive element of their service, like Tesla. It's hard for others to work on a Tesla, so it's the breadth of the electric vehicle that could play well in there.
spk01: Yeah, and I would say that if you're in California traveling stores, you'll see mostly Teslas that are the EVs. But you're correct, and I think that We talked about rational economic behavior before. That doesn't change in the EV world. As that vehicle depreciates, there's going to be a big place for the auto aftermarket to deliver value to a depreciating vehicle and a consumer that does not want to pay dealer prices for that aging vehicle.
spk00: This was awesome. We can't thank you, Brian, Felix, enough for joining us today and telling the Monroe story. Please join me in thanking them for delivering a wonderful presentation.
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