8/6/2026

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Operator
Conference Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to Natera's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Michael Brophy, Chief Financial Officer. Michael. Please go ahead.

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, operator. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining our conference call to discuss the results of our second quarter of 2026. On the line, I'm joined by Steve Chapman, our CEO, Solomon Moshkevich, President, Clinical Diagnostics, and Alex Alessian, General Manager of Oncology and our Chief Medical Officer. Today's conference call is being broadcast live via webcast. We will be referring to a slide presentation that has been posted to investor.natera.com. A replay of the call will also be posted to our IR site as soon as it's available. Starting on slide two, during the course of this conference call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding future events and our anticipated future performance, such as our operational and financial outlook and projections, our assumptions for that outlook, market size, partnerships, clinical studies, and expected results, opportunities, and strategies, and expectations for various current and future products, including product capabilities, expected release dates, Reimbursement coverage and related effects on our financial and operating results. We caution you that such statements reflect our best judgment based on factors currently known to us and that actual events or results could differ materially. Please refer to the documents we file from time to time with the SEC, including our most recent Form 10-K or 10-Q and the Form 8-K filed with today's press release. Those documents identify important risks and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contained in or suggested by the forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements made during the call are being made as of today, August 6, 2026. If this call is replayed or reviewed after today, the information presented during the call may not contain current or accurate information. This error disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. We will provide guidance on today's call, but will not provide any further guidance or updates on our performance during the quarter unless we do so in a public forum. We will quote a number of numeric or growth changes as we discuss our financial performance. And unless otherwise noted, each such reference represents a year-on-year comparison. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Steve. Steve?

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks, Mike. Let's get to the highlights on the next slide. We had an exceptional quarter. We processed approximately 1,044,000 tests in the second quarter, once again exceeding 1 million units and setting a new company record with strong volume performance across the business. In oncology, we processed 283,000 clinical MRD units, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 56% compared to Q2 of 2025. The clinical MRD volumes grew 34,000 units over Q1, which is the largest sequential increase to date. Beyond volume growth, we met several crucial milestones in oncology. Signatera became the first MRD test to get U.S. FDA approval as a companion diagnostic and the first MRD test to get Japanese PMDA approval. In addition, the NCCN Guideline Committee issued a Category 1 recommendation We generated approximately $753 million in revenue in the quarter, which represents approximately 38% growth over Q2 of last year. Ex-revenue true-ups or revenues grew approximately 40% year-on-year. Growth margins were strong again at approximately 65%, driven by another quarter of sequential improvement in ASPs. We were also pleased to generate positive cash inflow again this quarter and trim operating losses while continuing to invest in growth initiatives and R&D. On the guide, we are in a position to completely reset the revenue range, raising it by $100 million at the midpoint. Our new range is $2.85 billion to $2.91 billion in revenues, and we are holding OPEX steady. The guide implies 31% revenue growth this year, extra ups, and we feel very good about hitting this range. We are clearly on a roll, and I'm excited to review the progress since our call in May. Okay, let's get into some of the business trends on the next slide. I think the growth of total tests over time is remarkable when you look at the longer term picture here in the chart. In the quarter, women's health results were particularly strong on a seasonally adjusted basis with high single digit growth versus Q2 of last year. Q2 is typically our softest quarter for women's health due to seasonality, but we counteracted that effect this year with particularly strong new account wins driven by fetal focused adoption and early returns on the launch of our newly enhanced panorama test. We think this puts us in a strong position to continue executing in women's health for the rest of the year. We also had another strong organ health quarter as volume continued to ramp. And then of course, we had our best quarter yet for Signatera. The next slide shows our clinical oncology units over time. As a reminder, that's primarily Cigna Terra clinical units, but also includes a small number of latitude cases. Our sequential growth of 34,000 units was well above our internal expectations with performance fueled by a few drivers. Let's first look at the change in units between Q1 and Q2. You'll recall that on the Q1 call in May, we described weather-related events that suppressed Q1 MRD volumes by several thousand units. We don't think we necessarily recovered those units in Q2, but the change quarter over quarter is exaggerated by that artificially lower Q1 number. Mike will expand on this as it relates to the guide later in the call. In addition, last year we made a significant investment in the size and the breadth of our commercial team. Most of these folks were hired in the first half of 2025, so we are pleased now to see them hitting their stride. We also achieved some critical milestones for Signatera, including FDA approval, and we've seen an uptick in general Signatera adoption as a result. We are seeing this in new accounts and new patient starts, which were both very strong again this quarter. This broad-based acceleration is happening across tumor types, with colorectal and breast remaining our largest indications. I am also really encouraged by the contribution from the long tail of indications, both because it demonstrates broad adoption of Signatera in clinical practice and also because it increases the revenue opportunity as we expand coverage to additional tumor types. At the end of the quarter, we got the NCCN guideline in muscle-invasive bladder cancer and the PMDA approval in colorectal cancer, both of which we think bodes well in terms of future adoption. So we feel really good about where we are and the ongoing momentum. Moving to revenue on the next slide. Total revenues grew approximately 38% year over year as continued ASP execution accelerated growth on top of the volume performance. Maintaining this level of top line growth given the size of our revenue base is pretty remarkable. We had about 52 million in revenue troughs this quarter, which is trending down in both absolute terms and as a percent of revenue. X true-ups, our revenues grew about 40% year-on-year. We had another good quarter in women's health and organ health ASPs and we were pleased to see Signatura ASPs increase again. Signatura ASPs were up to roughly 1275 as we continued to drive more consistent reimbursement from Medicare Advantage and commercial plans in biomarker states. We made a significant investment in revenue cycle management a few years ago to get more consistent reimbursement for covered services. While we've completed most of the major initiatives for women's health and organ health, we still think Signatera ASPs have the potential to grow substantially over time, both from operational initiatives as well as potential additional MOLDX coverage decisions and broader guideline inclusion. We talked in the past that we think a mature signatory ASP can reach around $2,000, and we still feel good about that as our long-term target. The next slide shows our gross margin progress across two time periods. The left chart shows reported gross margin versus Q2 of 2025, with solid progress mainly driven by ASP improvements over the past year. On the right-hand side, we are zooming in on sequential growth, X true-ups, where we had a roughly 50 basis point improvement over Q1. This was due to several factors including both ASP wins and returning to a more normalized ratio of reported to accession units compared to Q1. POGs increased slightly in Q2 as we saw an uptick in volumes from some of our recently launched products, particularly for fetal focus, latitude, and signetera genome. When we launch these products, we leave a lot of room to achieve COGS improvements over time as volumes scale, and we're already executing on that roadmap. Latitude and fetal focus also present ASP upside over time. For example, we have a latitude submission in currently to Maldi X. We think we can keep improving margins slightly in the near term despite this new product COGS impact as we did this quarter. Longer term, we feel very comfortable about reaching our target of 70% plus gross margin. The margin improvement going forward is driven mostly by major events like mold DX coverages or the completion of key internal COGS projects. If you look at our progress on gross margin from the mid-40s to the mid-60s, it wasn't strictly linear. We had periods of incremental progress and also step-up function changes, and I think we'll have a similar trajectory in the future. Okay, with that, let me turn it over to Solomon to discuss some of the exciting clinical and product developments this quarter. Solomon?

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Solomon Moshkevich
President, Clinical Diagnostics

Thanks, Steve. I will talk through some of the catalysts that hit in the second quarter. and I want to start in women's health with our launch of the Enhanced Panorama Test because it addresses something that has been a gap in prenatal screening for a long time, achieving reliable test performance at low fractions. During pregnancy, fetal fraction is the proportion of placental DNA circulating in the mother's blood, and when that fraction is low, detecting chromosomal abnormalities becomes significantly more difficult, with one prior study indicating sensitivity as low as 62% for trisomy 21 using a different technology. Despite this limitation, most other labs who use a counting-based approach will routinely provide results at low fetal fraction without sufficient clinical performance data to back it up. Historically, Natera would return a no-call in such cases, about 2% of the time. Our new enhanced panorama test closes that gap. Powered by our novel SNP-informed deep sequencing technology, Panorama is now the only NIPT with clinical validation data for common trisomies, specifically in low fetal fraction patients. It combines the best of both worlds, the power of SNPs for fetal fraction measurement, triploidy detection, and twin zygosity, and more, along with excellent performance at low fetal fractions, bringing the overall no-call rate down to 0.5%, an improvement of roughly 80% compared to our prior version of the test. The prospective blinded studies supporting this launch included over 3,300 patients with more than 240 low fetal fraction cases, and we detected 100% of the trisomy 21 cases in that cohort. We launched this in May, and the reception among OBGYNs has been very enthusiastic, resulting in many new account wins. This reflects a set of customers who always wanted to order SNP-based testing with Natera, but had held back due to the no-call rates, which is now resolved. We think this sets up nicely for volume growth in the back half of the year. This new panorama also rounds out a multi-year run of innovative launches in prenatal health. Last year, we launched fetal focus, our next-gen single gene NIPT to detect inherited conditions like cystic fibrosis, which has continued to exceed our expectations driven by the strength of the EXPAND trial. And the year before, in 2024, we launched our fetal RHD test, addressing a significant unmet need given the nationwide Rogam shortage that year. Amazingly, the demand for RHD testing has continued to steadily increase despite the alleviation of that original shortage. Taken together, these three launches reflect the breadth and consistency of our innovation and growth trajectory in women's health. Moving now to organ health. The final Medicare LCD for organ transplant surveillance was published in July. and it represents a meaningful expansion over the initial CMS proposal. Now in year one after surgery, Medicare will cover six tests for patients with kidney transplant and 12 tests for patients with heart and lung transplants. Then in years two and three, Medicare will cover four tests per year across all three categories, which is significantly higher than their original proposal. This improvement reflects strong advocacy from the clinical community. After the draft was originally published by Medicare in July of 2025, Major transplant medical societies submitted letters to Moldiacs in support of expanded frequency. This included supportive comments from the American Society of Transplant Surgeons, the American Society of Transplantation, and the International Society of Heart and Lung Transplantation. We believe their unified voices helped move the needle on this final policy. We have spent years building the clinical evidence base that made this outcome possible. and the August 30th effective date on the policy means we will start to see the benefit of Medicare reimbursement in the second half of the year. We expect this to drive improvements in Prospera ASP and in Prospera volumes as physicians update their surveillance protocols to reflect the new policy. Turning now to oncology, where we had a great quarter, both in terms of commercial adoption and major milestones. In May, the FDA approved Signatera as a companion diagnostic for patients with muscle-invasive bladder cancer. This is not just a Natera milestone, it's an industry first for the field of MRD testing. Backed by the global Phase III Invigor 011 trial, it validates the Holthomer concept, treat on MRD, at the highest level. Then, in June, the Japanese PMDA approved Signatera for patients with colorectal cancer, supported by the GALAXY study. We expect a commercial launch later this year, pending final pricing and reimbursement determination, which is on track. That commercial launch will be supported by society guidelines from JSCO and JSMO that are already strongly supportive of MRD assessment in the adjuvant setting. And then, in July, Signatera received IVDR certification in the EU, making it the first MRD test for solid tumors to achieve this designation in Europe. Under this certification, Signatera is indicated across more than 20 tumor types. This streamlines future clinical trial launches across the EU, creating a competitive advantage for us with biopharma, while also ensuring continuity of access for patients after the expected IVDD transition deadline in 2028. This also sets Natera up nicely to achieve future reimbursement in Europe, a key part of our long-term global vision. These regulatory wins are the culmination of a long road for Natera in developing our regulatory and quality capabilities. And it's remarkable that these approvals have come in multiple different disease indications at the same time. These are also major proof points for our biopharma partners. We are building on this momentum with our newest submission to the Japanese PMDA for Signatera as a companion diagnostic in bladder cancer. With this submission, we are advancing in lockstep with Chugai, who markets atezolizumab in Japan. Japan reports approximately 34,000 new cases of bladder cancer per year, of which around 20 to 25% will be muscle invasive. Our submission is supported by data from the INVIGOR 011 trial. And notably, that trial had more than 20 participating clinical sites in Japan. So the leading urologic oncologists in Japan already have experience with the protocol, similar to what we saw with the GALAXY trial in CRC. We think bladder represents a compelling second indication for signatera in Japan, with strong evidence for serial testing every six weeks, and we expect regulatory approval later this year or early next year. Finally, we were very pleased to see the NCCN issue its Category 1 recommendation in support of signatera testing in bladder cancer. Category 1 is NCCN's highest designation and based on the most compelling randomized evidence. Furthermore, the NCCN specifically called for ctDNA testing using a personalized tumor-informed multiplex PCR NGS assay, which is language that uniquely describes Signatera. This is now the third NCCN guideline to positively recommend tumor-informed MRD testing, with prior recommendations coming in Merkel cell carcinoma and diffuse large B cell lymphoma, all of which reference Natera's data. This guideline update is expected to drive adoption across multiple vectors. As Steve described earlier in the call, it is already resulting in new customer starts and more systematic use among existing customers, those who like to wait for NCCN recommendations prior to adoption into standard clinical use. It's really creating an inflection point in the field for which Natera is exceptionally well positioned based on our gold standard clinical evidence, our operational excellence, and our industry leading analytical performance, especially with the phased variant technology acquired late last year from Foresight Diagnostics. The NCCN guideline is also driving new positive coverage policies among commercial payers, far beyond what we could achieve with just the biomarker legislation alone. Some commercial plans already had blanket coverage policies in place for FDA approved companion diagnostics or NCCN recommended tests. But most commercial plans are publishing new coverage policies to cover Signatera. We expect this to drive meaningful ASP improvement. Finally, as more clinical evidence is published in support of MRD-guided precision medicine, we expect further progress with Medicare coverage, NCCN guidelines, and commercial payers. With that, I'll hand it over to Alex to discuss our clinical roadmap. Alex?

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Alex Alessian
General Manager of Oncology & Chief Medical Officer

Thanks, Solomon. I want to spend a couple of minutes on the depth of the clinical evidence engine we've built behind Signatera and why we think it's such a durable advantage. If you look at slide 13, you can see the shape of that engine. For years, much of the MRD field, our cells included, built its early evidence on retrospective biobank studies. These studies are valuable, they're efficient, and they let you establish prognostic performance across many tumor types quickly. but retrospective data on its own only takes you so far. What actually moves guidelines and unlocks broad reimbursement is prospective evidence, studies designed upfront, run in real time, and in many cases, randomizing patients or tying signatera directly to a treatment decision. That evidence is a different order of magnitude. It carries far more weight with guideline committees and with payers. It also takes real effort and takes years to generate. We made the decision to invest in that harder path early. We've been signing and initiating prospective studies since 2019, and we've been building this flying wheel quietly in the background for more than seven years. Today, as the chart shows, we've opened more than 70 prospective studies of various forms, spanning our own sponsored trials, pharma partnerships, and academic and cooperative group collaborations. The key point on this slide is what happens next. For most of that period, we were putting studies in, investing ahead of the return. Now the flywheel is starting to really turn. These studies are beginning to read out. You can see this inflection on the right side of the chart. and we expect the pace of readouts to accelerate meaningfully over the next few years. Each readout is a potential catalyst for guidelines, for reimbursement and ultimately for volume. This is the part of the story that compounds and it's very hard for anyone starting today to replicate. We are just now entering the harvest phase of an investment we began seven years ago. I want to discuss in more detail the Natera-sponsored portion of our clinical trial portfolio. I'm excited to introduce Signal ER101, the first interventional perspective study that Natera is sponsoring and operationally running ourselves end-to-end. The study is now open and early reception from investigators has been excellent. Let me frame the clinical question because it's a big one. In early-stage HR-positive HER2-negative breast cancer, the most common form of breast cancer, the vast majority of patients today may be overtreated. When a patient is considered high-risk, the standard is to add a CDK4-6 inhibitor on top of endocrine therapy. But these are difficult drugs to take. More than 60% of patients experience serious adverse events, and a full course of therapy can carry a US retail cost north of $400,000. And the reality is that many of these patients were likely already cured by standard perioperative therapy alone. Signal ER101 asks a simple but powerful question. What if we use Signatera to identify patients who actually need that escalation? In the study, patients are surveilled with Signatera after surgery and treatment has escalated to CDK4-6 inhibitor only when we detect molecular residual disease. MRD negative patients are spared a toxic and expensive therapy they may never have needed. This is exactly the kind of high value clinical question MRD is uniquely positioned to answer. And the addressable population is large, representing a meaningful share of the more than 200,000 women diagnosed each year in the US with HR-positive HER2-negative breast cancer, the majority of them early stage. I want to be clear about why this matters strategically. Signal ER101 is the first of a broader interventional portfolio, the Signal program, and we have multiple additional interventional studies launching over the next few months covering a significant portion of the largest tumor histologies. These studies are designed to a pharma standard. They can be viewed as equivalent to a phase two or a phase three trials with the same implications if they succeed, namely the potential to change practice and help define a new standard of care. And critically, we've built the infrastructure to run these ourselves efficiently and cost effectively. Owning operational execution means we control the quality, the timelines, and the economics. It lets us bring rigorous, potentially practice-changing studies to questions that matter most to physicians and their patients on our own terms. Finally, let me update you on the progress in early cancer detection. We continue to be enthusiastic about the data we previously presented. Proceed CRC demonstrated excellent performance, including a 22.5% sensitivity and a 91.5% specificity for advanced adenomas, a notoriously difficult target, and a strong signal for the underlying technology. Additionally, case-controlled CRC performance showed a sensitivity of 95% and a specificity of 91%, with stage 1 adjusted sensitivity of 91% in screen-detected individuals. Our pivotal FIND study is now approaching full enrollment. We're on track to complete enrollment in the third quarter of this year, with roughly 24,000 average-risk adults enrolled to date. Our conversations with the FDA have been productive and are ongoing. We plan to read out the FIND cohort in 2027 and will provide additional color on the path from there at that time. Stepping back, we remain very excited about this opportunity. We believe we're developing a genuinely differentiated product, one that from the very beginning was designed around high sensitivity for advanced adenomas, the precursors we most want to catch early. With that, let me hand it back to Mike to walk through the financials. Mike?

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Great. Thanks, Alex. The next page is just a summary of the financials compared to last year. I won't belabor all the points that Steve already covered, but there are a few items I want to highlight. The revenue growth over Q2 of last year is particularly notable because you'll recall that Q2 2025 itself was a strong quarter where we put up 20,000 sequential significant growth units for the first time. Obviously, the 34,000-unit growth number this quarter shows you we've moved yet again into new territory. You can see positive gross margin trends here year on year and organically X true-ups sequentially versus Q1, despite our rapid cadence of launching new products this year that are not yet optimized for COGS, as Steve described. I was pleased to see loss per share continue to narrow, even as we aggressively double down on the future of the business. After ticking upwards last quarter, I was also pleased to see DSOs come down again, roughly four days to an average of 57 days this quarter, as we continue to do a nice job converting our volumes to cash. On the next slide, I'd like to give more granular detail on our OpEx, particularly in R&D. Given the successful commercial team expansion last year, SG&A is relatively stable in 2026, and obviously that investment is paying off really well this year. We did have some expenses in the first half on SG&A that are not budgeted to recur in the second half. To the extent we exceed the SG&A guide range this year, I expect the majority of the overage would come from non-cash expenses like stock-based compensation charges related to the business hitting long-term incentive targets and litigation expenses. In R&D, we are remaining very ambitious in our core areas of MRD, organ health, and women's health. You can easily measure our productivity over time just by reviewing the speed and breadth of the new products we've launched and the clinical trials we've read out over the last few years. Given the speed of our revenue and gross margin growth, however, we can afford to make these investments to remain in pole position while getting scale on the enterprise. As you can see on the chart, while R&D in our core areas is clearly growing, the gross profit dollars are accelerating over and above this growth. What's unique about our current R&D spend is the scale of the investment we are making in early cancer detection this year, which at the moment doesn't yield any top line or margin benefits at all. You can see that visually as the large change on the chart, which represents the roughly $100 million we are spending this year on development work and defined ECD trial. We think that ECD has enormous future potential once launched, and we expect a growth wave from zero currently to millions of tests per year. So we expect the scaling benefits to arrive for that fourth area of the business relatively soon. Okay, great. Let's wrap up with the guides for the rest of the year on the next slide. We're going to significantly bump the revenue guide now at $2.85 billion to $2.91 billion, which implies roughly 31% annual growth, extra ups, and meaningful growth in the second half over the first half of this year. We feel good about hitting this guide range given the volume and AST trends in the business, obviously with Signatera, but also given the better than expected seasonal dip we experienced in women's health. For Signatera volume growth assumptions, keep in mind Q2 sequential volume was exaggerated by several thousand units due to weather negatively impacting us in Q1, as Steve described. So while we had another very strong month in July, we don't expect to set a new volume record again in Q3. We continue to think the right framework for forecasting Signatera growth units is this linear growth model we've described in the past. If you take the average growth in units over the prior four quarters, that solves for randomness around weather and any seasonality or receiving day variances over the past year. Overall, the guide is just driven by volume growth and stable ASPs through the balance of the year. On Signatera, we've made a bunch of progress with biomarker state and Medicare Advantage coverage. So I think really to drive ASPs meaningfully higher, I think we are going to need to expand mold DX indication coverage, get some benefit from the bladder infusion guideline, and eventually get guidelines and additional indications. Our approach this entire year has been that those drivers are going to help us in 27, and so we will continue to keep them out of the guide for 2026. The rest of the guide we're going to hold steady. Gross margins, we bumped 100 basis points last quarter, and what you've seen this quarter is the benefit from ASP improvement and a normalizing test-supported success-to-session ratio that was balanced out by step-up in volumes in the new products, which, as Steve mentioned, we think is a healthy development and sets us up to generate returns from COGS reduction projects next year. We are holding steady on OpEx. We'll keep the same mindset we have to keep our foot on the gas to invest in future growth. If additional high return projects come our way, we are going to make the investments and update you on the quarterly calls. Finally, we are in good shape to generate cash for the year again, which is a priority for us even as we are in growth mode. Okay, with that, let's turn it over to the operator for questions. Operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Hunit Sara with Lyrinc Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Hunit Sara
Analyst, Lyrinca Partners

Hi, guys. Thanks for the questions here and a really impressive quarter for Signatera. So first one, if I could, Steve, you talked about a bit about the drivers, but if you could double click on that. You know, clearly you're building very strong evidence that's playing out. Could you elaborate a little bit on how should we think about how are these increases, you know, sort of sustainable, any color you can provide into, you know, 27? And maybe just if you could double click on the what's powering this growth. Is it the sales rep, the commercial execution? Clearly data is strong. NCCN data readouts. I mean, you can say all of those things, but maybe just the principal component that you think is driving this and keeps this sustainable in terms of quarter-over-quarter growth, remarkable growth that we're seeing here.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. Yeah, so I think there's some things that happened this quarter that we think were very beneficial. You know, you look at that FDA approval, you know, certainly there's some halo effect coming off of that. that was received very positively after the InVigor readout. But if you take a step back and you look at the preparations that we've made over the last couple of years, we made big investments in the commercial team. We made big investments in medical affairs. We've been investing in large scale clinical trials and data readouts. So all of those things have put us in a position to now be executing and outperforming. So we're super excited to see that The planning that we put in now coming to fruition. But ultimately, we really focus on sort of the four or five core things across all of our businesses. One is like an extreme focus on technology and sort of being on that cutting edge of technology. The second is backing everything with a very significant amount of peer reviewed evidence. And you can see we've continued to invest in that and continue to extend our lead. And then the third is focused extensively on user experience. We've done a lot of things to implement new ways to reduce TMP issues on tissue to be able to accept more samples, mobile phlebotomy expansion, so forth. And then the fourth is the team. And we have an excellent team of both on the commercial side and the medical affairs side. all of those things have put us in a position to be successful and as we look forward obviously this 34,000 quarter over quarter is is just a blowout record I think compared to anything that we've done you know previously you know but you know I wouldn't say necessarily we're going to repeat that immediately but you know if you look at I think our previous record was maybe 25,000 quarter over quarter or something like that. And I think we can outperform that as we move forward. And Q3 is off to a very good start. So I would expect us to be kind of somewhere right in the middle there.

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Hunit Sara
Analyst, Lyrinca Partners

Got it. And then a follow-up for you. Maybe this is just going a bit deeper into slide 13. Thanks for providing that. I think it's a very good perspective given the competition questions that we normally receive. Could you maybe dive a little bit deeper into it? Maybe, Alex, if you can talk about it. This clearly lays out 2027, 2028, you know, readouts that are steadily going to be coming out. But are there any specific readouts that you would point to? And maybe if you could just dial a little bit into the ER11 study, you know, again, sort of how should we think about that? Is that something of a practice changing study? Is that how we should be thinking about that study? Thank you.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Alex, go ahead.

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Alex Alessian
General Manager of Oncology & Chief Medical Officer

Thanks for me for the question. So I think slide 13, this is just kind of the perspective portion of our studies, right? So I think on top of this, we still continue to invest and read out biobank studies as well. So we do expect a large bolus of readouts in the next few years. The way I would kind of think about, especially the perspective readouts, you know, I would say there are definitely a few studies that we're kind of monitoring very closely. I think Vega is, for example, a good study that we've discussed in the past. But a lot of these studies are also, I would say, important in smaller indications. And because they are prospective and many of them are now interventional, I think the readouts do have a significant impact in terms of changing care and possibly changing guidelines and reimbursement. So we can't, given the number, provide details on every single study, kind of an exact dates for when it will read out. Some of this is variable. Some of this we don't control because some of these are being done with collaborators. But as we kind of get closer and kind of enter 2027, we'll try to provide a little bit more guidance about kind of the studies that we think are important and a little bit more information about their timing. Going back to ER 101 and the broader signal portfolio, I think we'll be announcing additional studies as they come online. We're extremely excited about the pipeline. I think the main point is these studies are designed to a high level. I think we said in the prepared remarks, pharma level. And many of them are actually randomized. Signal ER is not randomized, but it's not randomized because we couldn't randomize it, but because we're actually looking for performance for the CTA negative arm to do so well that really what we're doing is almost comparing to close to 100%. I mean, that's how high of a bar we're setting. And if the study is positive, we do believe that this study will be practice changing. And that's the mentality we've taken with every single signal study that we've designed and plan to initiate in the next few months. Got it. Great. Thanks, guys. And Pradeep,

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Let me just add to that a little bit too. So basically what we did is we sort of went across every histology that we thought could make a major impact on the business. And we said, let's design a practice changing, potentially guideline enabling study. And then we're going to fund those trials. And that's sort of what we've done. And that's why you see a lot of our investment going into these clinical trials. So Signal Breast is the first one that we're announcing, but there's going to be a suite across all different histologies. So stay tuned and it's a big part of our strategy going forward.

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Hunit Sara
Analyst, Lyrinca Partners

Fabulous. All right. Congrats, guys. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Dan Brennan
Analyst, TD Cowen

Great. Thank you. Thanks for the questions. Congrats on a strong quarter. Maybe could I start just on semiconductor volumes again given How strong it was this quarter? So a couple of thousand tests from the weather recapture, so over 32,000. And I guess, Steve, you talked about that Salesforce expansion productivity, which is just beginning to hit. So I'm just, I'm just kind of wondering how we should be thinking about the go forward pace, because it sounds like, you know, given the size of the Salesforce expansion, that possibly you could see really, you know, another couple of quarters here, really significant I think that's right. I mean, we've got, you know, we've got these sales folks that have just come online. We made a big investment in medical affairs

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

We're seeing a lot of momentum coming off the trials that have read out, coming off the halo effect of the FDA approval. There's some things like even in bladder, for example, where the invigor protocol is sort of moving to kind of an every six week protocol as outlined in the approval. And I think things like that can kind of give us an upside opportunity as well where people may be are starting to draw more frequently where they've traditionally drawn, say, quarterly or every six months. So there's a lot of momentum right now. And I don't think we'll do 34,000. Obviously, I think here we've really outperformed even our own internal expectations. But like I said, our previous record All-time record had been, I think, 25,000. And, you know, if we can outperform that, I think that would be, you know, that would be a good achievement. And, you know, we think we're in a position to be able to do that and kind of continue to notch up as the year goes on. But very strong momentum. I think we're crossing the sort of tipping point in the field where doctors are really starting to believe in MRD as a core part of their practice. and I think we're the major beneficiary of that given the breadth of our presence in the field and the amount of data that we put out, the size of our sales team. So everything's sort of starting to come together.

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Dan Brennan
Analyst, TD Cowen

Terrific. And then maybe just on the price, you know, the $25 sequential increase, you know, ahead of expectations, I think you've had 25 and 22 the last two quarters sequentially. But what I'm hearing, you know, Mike talked about more of the benefit in 27, but I heard Solomon Say, several commercial payers are kind of putting Signatera in their plans. You've got three NCCN guideline inclusions. And Steve, you talked about the benefits you had on RevCycle as well that you experienced in transplant and women's health. And you're seeing really an opportunity now more so in Signatera. So I'm just wondering if you can unpack that all. Is there a chance this price really begins to take off here the next few quarters more so? Or is $25 sequential still the right way to think about it for a little while? Thank you. Mike, do you want to take that?

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, no, thanks for the question. I mean, I think that, so as we mentioned on the prepared remarks, the guide that we put out presumes just stable ASPs, 1275 for Signatera through the balance of the year. I think, you know, if you're looking for like what would be an upside case beyond the guide, which we normally said is something that is difficult but achievable, I think it would be something in that zip code of another $25 through the balance of the year. And I can talk a little bit about why. I mean, the things that drive immediate term growth. Thank you. Thank you. Medicare Advantages compliance with reimbursing for covered services, expanding coverage within the biomarker states, things like that. The things that we're mentioning on the call are the longer-term drivers and will have a bigger impact on ASP. I feel better about the long-term vision for getting to $2,000. I feel better about that now than I really ever have since we launched Inc. and Tera. I think an upside case would be something like 25 bucks just because these recent wins that we've had take a little while to get into the revenue recognition.

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Dan Brennan
Analyst, TD Cowen

Got it. Thanks, Mike.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dave Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Dave Westenberg
Analyst, Piper Sandler

All right. Thank you for taking the question. And yeah, congrats on the good MRD numbers. So, you know, one of the things I think that was kind of fascinating, we see really good growth in a lot of the different MRD competitors or new entrants. Obviously, it's not having any impact on you with the 50 percent growth rate. So can you tell us, you know, is there still like market education from some of these competitors? And how do you think as these competitors come in, is there lanes for each or is there, you know, some crossover or? Do you think maybe they're kind of just getting their own customers? I just want to think about how it plays out as they are on the market and they do seem to be getting traction at this point.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, there's always going to be competition and we've seen that. I think if you look at probably four years now, maybe three plus years, there's been major oncology competitors that have had MRD tests that are approved by Moldy X on the market. So it's not necessarily sort of a new dynamic. And you can see we've done really well in the face of competition. I think we're going to continue to do really well because we're doing all the right things. So we're investing in the technology. When we see an opportunity to round out the portfolio or enhance the portfolio, we're taking those opportunities. We're doing all the right I think we're in a really good spot going forward. I would just say there's always going to be competition and other companies are going to do well. But because it's such a large market, it really doesn't have a significant impact on us. I mean, we're still very early in penetration in the overall market. I would sort of say mid-single digits. So we think there's a lot of upside here, and we're really in the best position to capture that upside. Now, with that said, we're very keenly watching what everybody else is doing. And if we think there's an opportunity for us to push harder in one particular area or sort of close gaps in a particular area, we're going to be really focused on that.

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Dave Westenberg
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Great. No, thank you very good. And you mentioned in your prepared remarks some of the new patient starts, again, being extremely high in the gross margin commentary. Now, I know you don't give out mix of brand new patient starts versus continued patients, but can you maybe give some of the mix on terms of tissue types? Are you gating a lot more New patient starts in some of the covered versus uncovered indications, some of the more newer indications. Just try to get a flavor of what might be coming down the pipeline in terms of what you're seeing in, say, tissue types in, say, 2028. Thank you again for the questions.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's a great question. So, you know, as you know, we have many tissue types now that are many histologies that are covered by Moldiacs. And then we have a handful, you know, where we still don't have coverage, but we have submissions. And I think, you know, we've sort of reported before that we had seven submissions in, you know, which are at various stages. And we're excited about the opportunity of getting coverage there. As far as what we're seeing in the field, and we're continuing to grow colorectal and breast, which I think are the two sort of largest, as we said in the remarks, but there's a lot of opportunity beyond that. And as we turn out new publications, we generate new data, we start to see uptick in these other histologies as well. And we think we're in a really good position to continue to drive growth across the business, both in but also across this longer tail of other histologies.

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Hunit Sara
Analyst, Lyrinca Partners

Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Markowitz with Evercore. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Daniel Markowitz
Analyst, Evercore

Hey, guys. Congrats on the good results and thanks for taking my questions. First, I wanted to ask on Cygneterra ASPs, it's nice to see the continued progress there. Steven, Mike, you both had some helpful comments on the step function improvements that we could see from specific catalysts. So what I wanted to specifically ask about is the seven indications submitted to MoldeX. Should we think about that in 2027? Is it coming online in the first half and maybe it'll take a few quarters to get fully rolled out and realized? And then once it's fully ramped, in terms of the P&L impact, could it be like 200 plus contribution to ASPs on that path to 2000? and are there any incremental costs that come with it? Like the way I'm thinking about it, it could be a really nice step up to the ASPs and also a nice inflection towards positive EBITDA. Is that the right way to think about it? Any color would be super helpful.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a great question. I would say, you know, with regards to the timing, you know, it's always hard to say, you know, but generally we've been able to sort of work through these submissions very successfully over time. I mean, usually If you have a good peer-reviewed published paper and you submit to Moldy X, there's going to be some back and forth. There's going to be a couple of rounds of revision, and then ultimately you'll end up getting coverage. And so that's why we feel like we're in a good position on these. I don't think that timeline of at some point over the second half of 26 and then into the first half of 27, I think that's a reasonable timeline, which is basically rolling coverages over the next sort of 12 months or something in that range. And frankly, I think it's good that they're very sort of strict in the way that they are. And I think that's benefited us because we've generated so much data and so much quality data. And it really, in some ways, is a competitive moat for others that are now entering the market where it really takes a long time to generate this and a number of others.

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

the indications where we've got submissions in flight or we're planning on submitting some moldex. I mean, I'd estimate that's worth something like $150 to the ASB, perhaps $200. So, Daniel, I think your estimate's roughly in the right range. So, obviously, that's a transformational difference when you start at $1275 and you add that. Steve mentioned the timing to starting to get these coverages, and I think that's right. I mean, I think over the next I think you start to get these coverages, and I would just reiterate what Steve was just mentioning on the process. It's hard to forecast with precision, but I think rolling approvals over the next 12 to 18 months is probably the right way to think about that.

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Daniel Markowitz
Analyst, Evercore

Great. Thank you. And then the second thing I wanted to ask about was the progress in biomarker states. It sounds like that got a little bit better this quarter. Are we seeing an inflection of this starting to flow through? Will you be able to be trued up retrospectively since biomarker bills went into effect? In other words, should we expect some outsized true-ups in the quarters and years to come based on the biomarker states? Thanks again for taking the questions, guys.

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thanks for that question. I'm not really expecting a lump of true-ups specifically from biomarker. The way that you see this happening is You get a biomarker state law, and then you interact with payers in that state, and it's kind of a linear kind of grinding process that takes quite a bit of time, as we've described in the past. So that kind of linear process of getting payers on, you know, one by one, sometimes it feels like it's a unit by unit, that contributes to the drip of continued true-ups rather than a bolus. I mean, more generally, we said this in the prepared remarks. I mean, the ambition is to is to have the troops kind of gradually, gradually come down. And you've seen that happen both in terms of absolute dollars, but particularly as a percent of revenue. So that's the plan.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tyco Peterson with Jeffries. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Tyco Peterson
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey team, this is Noah on for Tycho. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the quarter. I wanted to ask on women's health. I think the high single digit growth is a little bit better than we were expecting. You're curious, what are you seeing from an underlying market growth standpoint? And then when your competitors flagged some share loss there, so curious if you think you've been a beneficiary of share gain there.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, we definitely think we're benefiting from share gain here. Over the last couple of years, we've had some big investments sort of behind the scenes in technology development. That led us to the beginning of this year launching the Fuel Focus product and then more recently launching an enhanced version of Panorama that really closed one of the major gaps that people had with the product. So I think right now we're in probably the best position we've been in from a competitive standpoint. and we really started to see the impact of that over Q2. Typically, Q2 can be sort of a softer quarter just because of seasonality and we were really able to overcome that this quarter, I think, with just the interest in the product portfolio and the interest in the enhancements and the sales team is feeling very positive right now in women's health.

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Tyco Peterson
Analyst, Jefferies

Thanks. That's a helpful caller. And then for my follow-up, I wanted to ask on the SG&A guidance. It looks like you're expecting a step down in the second half versus the dollars last year, around $80 million. Just curious where these efficiencies are coming from. I think you mentioned an AI project last year that could drive $200 million in cost savings over time. So any incremental progress there? And how are you thinking about the longer-term path to profitability?

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Mike, you want to take that?

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure, thanks. Yeah, thanks for the question. Yeah, I think I mentioned in the prepared remarks there were a couple of one-time expenses in Q1 that I wouldn't forecast in the guide to have them repeat in the second half around non-cast accruals of stock-based comp and some litigation expenses. So that makes up the majority, I think, of that delta. More generally, I think we are getting a lot more efficient. We're deploying AI really across the business at a pretty frenetic pace, and we're just seeing efficiencies all the time. We've given a bunch of examples in the past of where we can deploy that in a large operation like this. You've got a large lab. You've got a lot of employees, a lot of patients, a lot of volumes. There's lots of opportunities to automate workflows and to move the employees up the value chain, as it were. We continue to see a lot of progress there.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Callum Titchmarsh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Callum Titchmarsh
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yeah, hey guys. Thanks a lot for taking the question. Maybe first one on the Japan launch, could you just help us understand a little more how that ramp could look in 2027? How quickly do you think reps could get out there into accounts? And then maybe just talk through Your confidence in securing recovery for perhaps more frequent testing based on some of the studies that you've run in the region. Thank you.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a good question. So, Solomon, I'll have you kind of comment on the tail's penetration. But I'll comment first on the coverage. So, I think as we said on the last call, you know, we're sort of initially looking for that sort of adjuvant, you know, coverage. and then I think following on after that, you know, at some point the surveillance coverage. Now we think we'll be in a position to be able to offer surveillance, you know, but we think the coverage will probably come sort of shortly after that. You know, there's a lot of opportunity there just given the number of CRC patients that are diagnosed and then now also I think bladder as well is going to be a big opportunity. So, Solomon, do you want to comment on the penetration?

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Solomon Moshkevich
President, Clinical Diagnostics

Sure. Hi, thanks for the question. With the launch in Japan for CRC expected at the end of the year, we think we're poised for penetration or market adoption, I prefer to say, that meets or exceeds the rates we saw in the United States when we introduced Signatera for colorectal cancer. And that's because we're starting further along with more significant published data with medical societies having published guidelines and strengthening those guidelines over time, including expected updates this year from multiple different guideline bodies in Japan. And then the reimbursement is really going to be the unlock because the way the tests are ordered, it's really a requirement for the reimbursement to be in place in order for clinics to order the test. I'll just add one other thing. We have a really strong partner in Japan, but we're supplementing that distribution partner with direct sales effort and marketing in Japan. So we feel pretty confident we're going to be able to get awareness out very quickly. We think given the Japanese thought leadership with the Galaxy study, that there's already a strong understanding and appreciation for the technology. And it's really going to be about user experience, making it easy to order, easy to get results. And we look forward to launching.

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Callum Titchmarsh
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's a great color. And Mike, maybe just one for you. Outside of the ASP uptick, you highlighted some internal work that's being done to drive down cogs. Could you maybe just detail in a little more what those actions are and when you think those can come through the P&L? Thanks, guys.

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. No, this is really kind of our standard playbook. We launch new products very frequently. You've seen that pace of the new launches being quite intense over the last year. As those products launch, obviously they're not yet optimized for COGS as they kind of get to a volume scale. So as they scale, you get some natural efficiencies with workflows in the lab. And then also once you see, you kind of confirm that you do have the demand for the new product and the investment is worth it, then it's relatively straightforward to then deploy resources then to optimize the workflow itself for COGS. Those are some of my favorite R&D projects because you can see what the demand is. You can see what the savings per unit is. And so it's quite easy to calculate returns on invested capital for those projects. And we've generated very high returns on these cost reduction projects over the last decade. So just given the pace of the new product launches we've had over the past year, we're well set up to have another

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Subbu Nambi with Guggenheim. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Subbu Nambi
Analyst, Guggenheim

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. There are two topics I want to address, and one of it was partially addressed, but I'll touch on it anyway. Thank you so much.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. So I'll take the first one on ECD. So, you know, we're actually really tracking along at where we thought we would on the FDA enabling study, defined study. We think we're going to be done recruiting this quarter, which is sort of what we outlined in the prepared remarks. So, you know, that's really on schedule. We're excited about that. We've kind of back that with this readout of proceed that we had early, you know, I think at the JPM conference previously, which we're excited about. So now we're doing the development work. You know, we're getting the assay ready to be in a position to run the fine study after all the samples are collected and then be in a position to submit to the FDA. So, you know, these are all expenses that You know, over time will go away. You know, but I think for now, you know, this is sort of what needs to be done to be in a position to submit to the FDA. We think this is a huge market opportunity, and we're in a position to be, you know, potentially one of the key players in this space. So, Mike, do you want to comment on the margin?

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Michael Brophy
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, no, it's very similar to the topic we were covering with Callum, which is, yeah, we did have a huge number of new Signatera stars convince her with the blowout in volumes that we had for Signatera. And then we had some very promising growth in a bunch of these new products where the COGS aren't yet optimized. But as I just mentioned, you know, we've got ample opportunity now, now that we see the volume coming in, to go and tighten down those COGs and optimize those workflows, which we're excited to do again over the next kind of 12 to 18 months.

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Steve Chapman
Chief Executive Officer

And I'll just reiterate this point on new patients. I mean, new patients coming in for Signatera was way up. So we're seeing this very significant excitement. and the good thing about that is that sort of usually kind of foreshadows a significant growth in recurrence monitoring and surveillance in the future.

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Subbu Nambi
Analyst, Guggenheim

Perfect. Thank you so much, guys.

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Operator
Conference Operator

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