NVIDIA Corporation

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

11/20/2020

spk06: Good afternoon. My name is Jason and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to NVIDIA's third quarter financial results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. Simona Jankowski, you may begin your conference.
spk03: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to NVIDIA's conference call for the third quarter of fiscal 2021. With me on the call today from NVIDIA are Jensen Wang, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Colette Kress, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to remind you that our call is being webcast live on NVIDIA's Investor Relations website. The webcast will be available for replay until the conference call to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021. The content of today's call is NVIDIA's property. It can be reproduced or transcribed without our prior written consent. During this call, we may make forward-looking statements based on current expectations. These are subject to a number of significant risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of factors that could affect our future financial results and business, please refer to the disclosure in today's earnings release, our most recent forms 10-K and 10-Q, and the reports that we may file on Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. All our statements are made as of today, November 18, 2020, based on information currently available to us. Except as required by law, we assume no obligation to update any such statements. During this call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. You can find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures in our CFO commentary, which is posted on our website. With that, let me turn the call over to Colette.
spk04: Thank you, Simona. Q3 was another exceptional quarter with record revenue of $4.73 billion, up 57% year on year, up 22% sequentially, and well above our outlook. Our new NVIDIA Ampere GPU architecture is ramping with excellent demand across our major market platforms. Q3 was also a landmark quarter, both for us and the industry as a whole. as we announced plans to acquire Arm from SoftBank for $40 billion. We are incredibly excited about the combined company's opportunities, and we are working through the regulatory approval process. For today, we will focus our remarks on our quarterly performance. Starting with gaming. Revenue was a record $2.27 billion, up 37% year-on-year, up 37% sequentially, and ahead of our high expectations. Driving strong growth was our new NVIDIA Ampere architecture-based GeForce RTX 30 series of gaming GPUs. The GeForce RTX 3070, 3080, and 3090 GPUs offer up to two times the performance and two times the power efficiency over the previous Turing-based generation. Our second generation NVIDIA RTX combines ray tracing and AI to deliver the greatest ever generational leap in performance. First announced on September 1st and ranging in price from $499, To $1,499, these GPUs have generated amazing reviews and overwhelming demand. PC World called them staggeringly powerful, while Newegg cited more traffic than Black Friday. Many of our retail and e-tail partners sold out instantly. The RTX 30 series drove our biggest ever launch. While we had anticipated strong demand, it exceeded even our bullish expectations. Given industry-wide capacity constraints and long cycle times, it may take a few more months for product availability to catch up with demand. In addition to the NVIDIA Ampere GPU architecture, we announced powerful new tools for gamers, as well as for tens of millions of live streamers, broadcasters, esports professionals, artists, and creators. NVIDIA Reflex is a new technology that improves reaction time in games, reducing system latency by up to 50%. NVIDIA Reflex is being integrated into popular esports games such as Apex Legends, Call of Duty Warzone, Fortnite, and Valorant. NVIDIA Broadcast is a universal plug-in for video conferencing and live streaming applications that enhances the quality of microphones, speakers, and webcams with NVIDIA AI effects, such as audio noise removal, virtual background effects, and webcam audio frame. With it, remote workers and live streamers can turn any room into a broadcast studio. Blockbuster games continue to adopt NVIDIA's RTX, ray tracing, and AI technology. Epic Games announced that Fortnite, which has more than 350 million players worldwide, is adding NVIDIA RTX real-time ray tracing, NVIDIA DLSS AI Super Resolution, and NVIDIA Reflex, making the game more beautiful and even more responsive. Other major new titles featuring RTX this holiday season include Watch Dogs Legends, Call of Duty, Black Ops Cold War, and much anticipated Cyberpunk 2077. Gaming laptop demand was also strong. With double-digit year-on-year growth for the 11th quarter in a row, NVIDIA GeForce laptops support the most demanding applications for creatives and designers, while doubling as a powerful gaming rig by night. We also had record gaming console revenue on strong demand for the Nintendo Switch. And we continue to grow our cloud gaming service, GeForce Now, which has doubled in the past seven months to reach over 5 million registered users. GeForce Now is unique as an open platform that connects to popular game stores, including Steam, Epic Games, and Ubisoft Connect, allowing gamers access to the titles they already own. 750 games are currently available on GFN. the most of any cloud gaming platform, including 75 free-to-play games with more games added every Thursday. GFN supports many popular clients, including PCs, Macs, and Chromebooks. Stay tuned for more devices to come in the near future. In addition, GFN's reach continues to expand through our telco partners in a growing list of countries, including Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. We are also providing technology that enables the cloud gaming services to an expanding number of partners. Following our earlier announcement with Tencent, Amazon, and Facebook are beginning to offer cloud gaming services powered by NVIDIA. Moving to ProBiz. Q3 revenue was $236 million. down 27% year-on-year and up 16% sequentially, ahead of our expectations. Sequential growth was driven by strength in notebooks, which posted record revenue, boosted by work-from-home initiatives and the shift to thin and light mobile workstations. This is particularly offset by a decline in desktop workstations, which continued to be impacted by the pandemic and drove the year-on-year decline. From an industry demand perspective, stronger verticals including healthcare, public sector, higher education and research, and financial services. We continue to win new business in a number of areas. In healthcare, we added Medtronic for visual surgical applications and Fizzle for medical imaging. In technology and media and entertainment, we gained wins for design, rendering, and broadcast applications. During the quarter, we announced that Omniverse, the world's first 3D collaboration and simulation platform, has entered open beta. Omniverse enables the tens of millions of designers, architects, and creators to collaborate real-time, on-premises, or remotely. Using the virtual and physical world, Omniverse brings together NVIDIA breakthroughs in graphics, simulation, and AI It will help enterprises address evolving requirements as workforces become increasingly distributed. Initial market response from this transformative platform has been phenomenal. Over 400 individual creators and developers in diverse industries have been evaluating Omniverse and early adopters, including Ericsson, BMW, Foster & Partners, and Lucasfilm. The pandemic is accelerating development of AR, VR, and mixed reality technologies, which will have a profound impact on how we work and play. For example, our work with NASCAR to enable a variety of AR and VR services at the edge is revolutionizing the racing experience for millions of fans across the globe. With our industry-leading real-time ray tracing graphics, AI and simulation hardware and software stacks, NVIDIA is in a unique position to enable the future of blending the physical and virtual worlds. Moving to automotive, Q3 revenue was $125 million, down 23% year-on-year and up 13% sequentially. Sequential growth was driven by a recovery in global automotive production volumes, as well as continued growth in AI cockpit revenue. The year-on-year decline was due to the expected ramp down of legacy infotainment revenue. In September, Mercedes-Benz debuted its redesign of S-Class sedan featuring an all-new NVIDIA-powered M-Box AI cockpit system with an augmented reality heads-up display, AI voice assistant, and rich interactive graphics to enable every passenger in the vehicle to enjoy personalized intelligent features. Also in September, Li Auto, a leading electric car brand in China, announced that it will develop its next generation of vehicles using the software-defined NVIDIA Drive AGX Orin platform. Orin delivers nearly seven times the performance and three times the energy efficiency of our previous generation, sfc making it uniquely capable to power next generation autonomous electric vehicles we have excellent traction with ev startups finally last week nvidia and hyundai motor group announced that the automaker's entire lineup of hyundai kia and genesis models will come standard with nvidia drive in-vehicle infotainment systems starting in 2022. this feature-rich, software-defined computing platform will allow vehicles to be perpetually upgraded with the latest AI cockpit features. Now moving to data center. Revenue was a record $1.9 billion, up 162% year-over-year and up 8% sequentially. Driving growth was a strong ramp of our A100-based platforms. Continued growth with Mellanox and record T4 shipments for inference. Let me give you a little bit of color on each. Our new NVIDIA Ampere architecture gained further adoption by cloud and hyperscale customers and started ramping into vertical industries. Over the past weeks, Amazon Web Services, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, and Alibaba Cloud announced general availability of the A100, following Google Cloud Platform and Microsoft Azure. A100 adoption by Vertical Industries drove strong growth. As we began shipments to server OEM partners whose broad enterprise channels reach a large number of end customers. We also ramped the DGX A100 server and began shipping NVIDIA DGX SuperPOS, the first turnkey AI infrastructure. These range from 20 to 140 DGX A100 systems interconnected with Mellanox's HDR InfiniBand networking and enable customers to install incredibly powerful AI supercomputers in just a few weeks' time. In fact, we have announced plans to build an 80-node DGX superpod with 400 petaflops of AI performance called Cambridge One. which will be in the UK's fastest AI supercomputer. It will be used by NVIDIA researchers for collaborative research within the UK's AI and healthcare community across academia, industry, and startups. It joins other systems in NVIDIA's complex of AI supercomputers, powered by our R&D and autonomous vehicles, conversational AI, robotics, graphics, HPC, and other domains. This includes Selene, now the world's fifth fastest supercomputer and fastest commercial supercomputer, and a new NVIDIA DGX SuperPod, which ranks first on the green 500 list of the world's most energy-efficient supercomputers. A great example of the tremendous opportunities for AI in healthcare is our new partnership with GSK for applying computational to the drug and vaccine discovery process. GSK's London-based AI Hub will utilize biomedical data, AI methods, and advanced computing platforms to unlock genetic and clinical data with increased precision and scale. In addition to this investment in NVIDIA's DGX A100 system, GSK will have access to NVIDIA's Cambridge One, the NVIDIA Clara Discovery Software, and NVIDIA Scientist. In Q3, the A100 swept the industry standard MLPerf benchmark for AI inference performance, following our sweep in the prior quarter's MLPerf benchmark for AI training. Notably, our performance led in AI inference actually extended compared with last year's benchmark. For example, In the ResNet-50 test for image recognition, our A100 GPU beat CPU-only systems by 30 times this year versus six times last year. Additionally, A100s outperformed CPUs by up to 237 times in the newly added recommendator test, which represents some of the most complex and widely used AI models on the Internet. Our winning performance in AI inference is translating to continued strong revenue growth. Alongside the continued ramp of the A100, T4 sales set a record as the NVIDIA AI inference adoption is in full throttle. We estimate that NVIDIA's installed GPU capacity for inference across the seven largest public clouds now exceeds that of the aggregate CPU capacity in the cloud, testament to the tremendous performance and TCO advantage of our GPUs. Hundreds of companies now operate AI-enabled services on NVIDIA's inference platform, including the A100 or T4 GPU and our Triton inference-serving software. For example, Tencent uses NVIDIA AI Inference to recommend video, music, news, and apps, supporting billions of queries per day. Microsoft uses NVIDIA AI inference for grammar correction in Microsoft Office, supporting half a trillion queries a year. And American Express uses it for real-time fraud detection. We also gained tremendous traction in supercomputing. We announced that NVIDIA technology, including Ampere Architecture GPUs, and HDR InfiniBand networking will power five systems awarded by EuroHPC, a European initiative to build exascale supercomputing. This includes Trineca, a university consortium in Italy, and one of the world's most important supercomputing centers, which will use NVIDIA's accelerated computing platform to build the world's fastest AI supercomputer. Chinooka supercomputer named Leonardo advances the age of exascale AI, delivering 10 exaflops of AI performance to enable AI and high-performance computing converged application use cases. It is built with nearing 14,000 NVIDIA Ampere architecture-based GPUs and Mellanox HDR 200 gigabit per second InfiniBand networking. And just the re-released top 500 list of supercomputers show that NVIDIA GPUs or networking powered nearly 70% and eight of the 10 top supercomputers on the list. Mellanox had another record quarter with double digit sequential growth well ahead of our expectations, contributing 13% of overall company revenue. The upside reflected sales to a China OEN that will not recur in Q4. As a result, we expect a meaningful sequential revenue decline for Mellanox in Q4, though still growing 30% from last year. Mellanox reached record revenue in both InfiniBand and Ethernet, driven by cloud, enterprise, and supercomputing customers. Strong demand for high-performance interconnects, where Mellanox is the leader, is being fueled by AI increasingly complex applications, which demand faster, smarter, more scalable networks. As the data center becomes the new unit of computing in the age of AI, Mellanox networking is foundational to modern scale-out architectures. At GTC in October, we unveiled the Bluefield 2 DPU, or data processing unit, a new kind of processor which offloads critical networking, storage, and security tasks from the CPU. A single Bluefield II DPU can deliver the same data center services that can consume up to 125 CPU cores. This frees up valuable CPU cores to run a wide range of other enterprise applications. In addition, it enables zero trust security features to prevent data breaches and cyber attacks, and accelerates overall performance. VMware announced that it will offload, accelerate, and isolate its industry-leading ESXi hypervisor with NVIDIA's Bluefield2 DPU, boosting vSphere and data center performance and efficiency. We also unveiled our three-year DPU roadmap, unifying Mellanox's leading network capabilities with NVIDIA's GPU and the new NVIDIA DOKA or data center on a chip architecture. Software development kit for building DPU accelerated applications. We believe that over time, DPUs will ship on millions of servers, unlocking a 10 billion total addressable market. Bluefield 2 is sampling now with major hyperscale customers and will be integrated into the enterprise server offerings of major OEMs. This was our busy period for product launches. Earlier this week at Supercomputing 20, we announced the new double-capacity A100 80-gigabyte GPUs and DGX systems for organizations to build, train, and deploy massive AI models. We also announced the new DGX station A100, a powerful workgroup server with four a 100 GPUs and a massive 320 gigabyte GPU memory for data scientists and AI researchers working in offices, research facilities, labs, or at home. All these additions to the NVIDIA Ampere architecture family of products will be available early next year. At SC20, we also announced the next generation NVIDIA Mellanox 4 gigabit per second InfiniBand architecture, giving AI developers and scientific researchers the fastest available networking performance. This doubles data throughput and adds new in-network computing engines to provide additional acceleration. Solutions based on this new architecture are expected to sample in the second quarter of calendar 2021. Moving to the rest of the P&L. Q3 gap gross margins was 62.6% and non-gap gross margin was 65.5%. Gap gross margin declined year on year, primarily due to charges related to the Mellanox acquisition, partially offset by product mix. The sequential increase was driven by the absence of non-recurring inventory step-up expense related to the Mellanox acquisition. Non-GAAP gross margins increased by 140 basis points year on year, reflecting a shift in product mix with higher data center sales, including the contribution from Mellanox. Non-GAAP gross margin was down 50 basis points sequentially, in line with our expectations, driven by product mix. Q3 GAAP operating expenses were $1.56 billion, and non-GAAP operating expenses were $1.1 billion, up 6% and 42% from a year ago, respectively. Q3 GAAP EPS was 2.12, up 46% from a year earlier, and non-GAAP EPS was 2.91, up 63% from a year ago. Q3 cash flow from operations was $1.28 billion. With that, let me turn to the outlook for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021. As a reminder, Q4 includes a 14th week, which we expect to be incrementally an addition to revenue and operating expenses. We expect gaming to be up sequentially in what is typically a seasonally down quarter as we continue to ramp up our new RTX 30 series product. We expect data center to be down slightly versus Q3. With that, we expect computing products to grow in the mid single-digit sequentially, more than offset by sequential decline in Mellanox. We expect continued sequential growth in auto and provis, though not yet returning to year-on-year growth. And we expect a seasonal decline in OEM. Revenue is expected to be $4.8 billion, plus or minus 2%. GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins are expected to be 62.8% and 65.5%, respectively, plus or minus 50 basis points. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to be approximately $1.64 billion and $1.18 billion, respectively. GAAP and non-GAAP Other income and expenses are both expected to be an expense of approximately $55 million. GAAP and non-GAAP tax rates are both expected to be 8%, plus or minus 1%, excluding discrete items. Capital expenditures are expected to be approximately $300 million to $325 million. Further financial details are included in the CFO commentary and other information available on our IR website. In closing, let me highlight upcoming events for the financial community. We'll be virtually attending the Credit Suisse Technology Conference on November 30th, Wells Fargo TMT Summit December 1st, and the UBS TMT Conference on December 7th. Our earnings call to discuss the fourth quarter and full year results is scheduled for Wednesday, February 24th. We will now open the call for questions. Operator, would you please poll for questions?
spk06: Certainly. At this time, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of John Pitzer from Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Sorry, can you hear me?
spk09: yes yeah hey guys uh congratulations to the solid is all thank you let me ask the question just going back to your commentary around melanox it seems like you're guiding the january quarter to about 500 million which means the core data center business is still growing nicely call it six seven percent sequentially i'm just kind of curious when you look at the core data center business i know there's not a direct correlation to server business But we're clearly going through a cloud digestion and server and core vertical markets enterprise for servers are weak. When you look at your core data center business, do you feel as though that's having an impact? And this is sort of the digestion that you saw kind of in late fiscal 20, sorry, fiscal 19 into 20, but you're doing it still growing significantly year over year. How would you characterize the macro backdrop?
spk04: Sure. Let me make sure we clarify for those also on the call. Yes, we expect our data center revenue in total to be down slightly quarter over quarter. The computing products, NVIDIA computing products, is expected to grow in the mid single digits quarter over quarter as we continue the NVIDIA AI adoption and particularly as A100 continues to ramp. Our networking Our Mellanox networking is expected to decline meaningful quarter over quarter as sales to that China OEM will not recur in Q4, though we still expect the results to be growth of 30% or more year over year. The timing of some of this business therefore shifted from Q4 to Q3, but overall H2 is quite strong. So in referring to overall digestion, the hyperscale business remains extremely strong. We expect hyperscales to grow quarter over quarter in computing products as A100 continues to ramp. The A100 continues to gain adoption, not only across those hyperscale customers, but again, we're also receiving great momentum in inferencing with the A100 and the T4. I'll turn it over here to Jensen to see if he has more that he would like to add.
spk11: Yeah, Collide captured it really well. The only thing that I would add is that our inference initiative is really gaining great momentum. You know, inference is one of the hardest computer science problems. Compiling these gigantic neural network computational graphs into our target devices really, really has proven to be really, really hard. The models are diverse, ranging from vision to language to speech. And there's so many different types of models being created. The model sizes are doubling every couple of months. The latency expectations are increasing all the time, or latency is decreasing all the time. And so the pressure on inference is really great. The technology pressure is really great. Our leadership there is really pulling ahead. We're in our seventh generation Tensor IT. We, over the course of the last couple of years, developed an inference server. It's called Triton. It has been adopted all over the place. We have several hundred customers now using NVIDIA AI to deploy their AI services. This is from the early innings, and I think this is going to be our largest near-term growth opportunity for work. We're really fine on all cylinders there between the A100s ramping in the cloud, A100s beginning to ramp in enterprise, and all of our inference initiatives are really doing great.
spk09: James, maybe to follow on there, just on the vertical markets, clearly work from home and COVID this year kind of presented a headwind to new technology deployments on-prem. I'm kind of curious if we expect sort of an enterprise recovery in general next year, how do you think that will translate into your vertical market strategy? And is there anything else above and beyond that you can do to help accelerate penetration of AI into that end market?
spk11: Yeah, John, that's a good point. I mean, it's very clear that the inability to go to work is slowing down the adoption of new technology in some of the verticals. Of course, worsening rapid adoption in certain verticals, like, for example, using AI in healthcare to rapidly discover new vaccines and early detection of outbreaks and robotic applications. You know, so warehouses, digital retail, last mile delivery, just really, really great enthusiasm around adopting new AI and robotics technology. But in some of the more traditional industries, new capabilities and new technologies are slower to deploy. One of the areas that I'm really super excited about is the work that we're doing in remote work and making it possible for people to collaborate remotely. We have a platform called Omniverse. It's an early beta. The feedback from the marketplace has been really great. And so I've got a lot more to report to you guys in the upcoming months around Omniverse. But anyways, I think when the industry recovers, we serve... You know, our fundamental purpose as a company is to solve the greatest challenges that impact industry where ordinary computers can't. And these challenges serve some of the most important applications in the verticals that we address. And they're not commodity applications. They're really impactful, needle-moving applications. So I have every confidence that when the industries recover Things will get designed. Cars will be designed, and planes will be designed, and ships will be designed, and buildings will be designed. We're going to see a lot of design. We're going to see a lot of simulation. We're going to see a lot of robotics applications.
spk06: Once again, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypads. To get as many analysts in as possible, please just ask one question. If you would like a follow-up, please re-queue. Your next question comes from the line of CJ News from Evercore. Your line is open.
spk05: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking the question. You talked about in your prepared remarks limited availability, capacity, components. You suggested perhaps a few months to catch up. Curious if you can speak to the visibility that you have for both gaming and data center into your April quarter. Yep.
spk11: Collette, do you want me to take that real quick and then you can help me out?
spk09: Yes, absolutely.
spk11: So, DJ, first of all, We have a lot of visibility into the channel, as you know, especially for gaming. And we know how many weeks of inventory is in what parts of the channel. We've been draining down the channel inventory for Turing for some time. Meanwhile, we've also expected a very, very successful launch with Ampere. And And even with our bullish demand expectations and all of the anchors that we built, which is one of the fastest ramps ever, the demand is still overwhelming. And I guess in a lot of ways it's kind of expected. The circumstances are it's been a decade since we've invented a new type of computer graphics. Two years ago, we invented a programmable shader, and it set the industry on the course to create a type of images that we see today. But it's very clear that the future is going to look something much, much more beautiful. And we invented NVIDIA RTX to do that. And it has two capabilities, one based on ray tracing, and the other one's based on artificial intelligence image generation. The combination of those two capabilities is creating images that people are pretty ecstatic about. And at this point, it's defined the next generation content. And so it took us 10 years to invent it. We launched it two years ago, and it took our second generation to really achieve the level of quality and performance that the industry really expects. And now the demand is just overwhelming. And so we're going to continue to ramp fast, and this is going to be one of our most successful ramps ever. And it gives our install base of some 200 million-plus GeForce gamers the best reason to upgrade in over a decade. And so this is going to be a very large generation for us, is my guess. And then with respect to data centers, We're ranking into A100. A100 is our first generation of GPUs that does several things at the same time. It's universal. We position it as universal because it's able to do all of the applications that we, in the past, had to have multiple GPUs to do. It does training well. It does inference incredibly well. It does high-performance computing. It does data analytics. And so the Ampere architecture is able to do all of this at the same time. And so the utilization for data centers and the utility is really, really fantastic. And the reception has been great. And so we're going to ramp into all of the world's clouds. I think starting this quarter, we're now in every major cloud provider in the world, including Alibaba, Oracle, and And, of course, the giants, the Amazons, the Azure and Google Clouds. And we're going to continue to ramp into that. And then, of course, we're starting to ramp into enterprise, which in my estimation long-term will still be the largest growth opportunity for us, you know, turning every industry into an AI, turning every company into AIs and augmented with AI and and bringing the iPhone moment to all of the world's largest industries. And so we're ramping into that, and we're seeing a great deal of enthusiasm.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Stacy Rusgon from Bernstein Research. Your line is open.
spk10: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. You said that the extra week was contributing incrementally to revenue in OpEx. Can you give us some feeling for how much it's contributing to revenue in OpEx in Q4? And does that impact, at least on the revenue side, differ, say, between gaming and data center? And then how should we think about it impacting seasonality into Q1 as that extra week rolls off?
spk04: Let me try this one, Jensen. Yes, we've incorporated that 14th week into our guidance for both revenue and OpEx. We will likely have incrementally positive impact on revenue, although it is tough to quantify. Our outlook also reflects incremental OpEx for Q4 in primarily two different areas in terms of compensation and depreciation. And given that our employees are such a material power of our OpEx, it will, it can be close to 1 14th of the quarter. Now, when we look a little bit farther, we should think about the incremental positive in both gaming and data center from that extra week as there hopefully will be extra supply. But not likely as much as 1 14th of the quarter of revenue. as enterprise demand is essentially project-based. And gaming demand, though, is tied to the number of gamers that might be shopping for the overall holiday. So again, still very hard for us to determine at this time. Normally, between Q4 and Q1, there is seasonality in gaming, seasonality downward. But we'll just have to see, as we are still supply-constrained, within this Q4 to see what that looks like. From an OPEX standpoint, we'll probably expect our OPEX to be relatively flattish as we move from Q4 to Q1.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Vivek Haria from Bank of America. Your line is open.
spk00: Thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the strong quote. Jensen, my question is on competition from internally designed products by some of your larger cloud customers, Amazon and Google and others. We hear about competition from time to time, and I wanted to get your perspective. Is this a manageable risk? Is the right way to think that They are perhaps using more of your product in their public cloud, but they are moving to internal products for internal workloads. Just how should we think about this risk going forward? Thank you.
spk11: Thank you. Thanks, Vivek. Most of the cloud vendors, in fact, I believe all of the cloud vendors use the same infrastructures largely for their internal cloud and external cloud, or have the ability to, or it or largely do. And there's, you know, the competition we find to be really good. And the reason for that is this. You know, it just suggests that acceleration, you know, make it very clear that acceleration is the right path forward for training and inference. You know, the vast majority of the world's training models are doubling in size every couple of months. And it's one of the reasons why our demand is so great. The second is inference. The vast majority of the world's inference is done on CPUs. And nothing is better than the whole world recognizing that the best way forward is to do inference on accelerators. And when that happens, our accelerator is the most versatile. It is the highest performance. We move the fastest. Our rate of innovation is the fastest because we're also the most dedicated to it. We're most committed to it. And we have the largest team in the world to it. Our stack is the most advanced, giving us the greatest versatility and performance. And so we see spots of announcement here and there. Um, but they're also our largest customers, you know, and, and, um, uh, as you, as you know, that we're, we're ranting, um, uh, quite nicely at Google and we're ranting quite nicely at Amazon and Microsoft and Alibaba and Oracle and others. And so, so I think, I think the, the, the big takeaway is that, uh, and the great opportunity for us to be, if you look at the vast amount of workload, uh, AI AI workload in the world, the vast majority of it today is still on CPUs. And it's very clear now that this is going to be an accelerator workload. And we're the best accelerator in the world. And this is going to be a really big growth opportunity for us in the near term. In fact, we believe it's our largest growth opportunity in the near term. And we're in the early innings of it.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Harlan Sir from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
spk01: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and great job on the quarterly execution. The Merinox networking connectivity business was up 80% year-over-year. I think it was up about 13%, 14% sequentially. I know there was upside in October from one China customer, but it did grow 70% year-over-year last quarter. And you're still expecting 30% year-over-year growth next quarter. If I remember correctly, I think InfiniBand is about 40% of that business. Ethernet Cloud is about 60%. Jensen, what are the big drivers, especially since we're in the midst of a cloud spending digestion cycle? And I just saw that the team announced their next-gen 400-gig InfiniBand solution, which should drive another strong adoption cycle with your supercomputer customers. When does this upgrade cycle start to fire?
spk11: Yeah, let's see. Our data center business consists of supercomputing centers, which is small. High-performance computing, which is a much larger part of supercomputing, much larger than supercomputing. And then hyperscale and enterprise, which are about 50-50. Of the data center business, The accelerated computing part is not very much associated with digestion and others. It's much more associated with workloads and our new product cycles, the TCO that we bring in AI inference, the type of models that the cloud service providers are deploying, whether they're whether they're deploying new AI models based on deep learning, and how much of those workloads that we've completed the porting to our accelerators and ready yet for deployment. And so those are the factors associated with accelerated computing. It's really about the apps. It's really about the workloads and really feeling about AI. On the other hand, the networking part of our business is more connected to CPU business because they're much more block-based. The networking part of our business is driven by this idea of new hyperscale data center architecture called disaggregation, software disaggregation, not necessarily hardware disaggregation, software disaggregation. where this type of software called Kubernetes orchestrate microservices that are deployed across the data center. So one service, one application isn't monolithic running on one computer anymore. It's distributed across multiple computers and multiple nodes so that the hyperscale data centers can more easily scale up and scale out according to the workloads and according to the demand on the data centers. And so this aggregation has caused the networking between the compute nets to be of all vital importance. And because Mellanox is the lowest latency, highest performance, highest bandwidth network that you can get, the TCO benefit at the data center scale is really fantastic. And so when they're building out data centers, Mellanox is going to be much more connected to that. In the enterprise side of it, depending on new CPU cycles, it could affect them. If a CPU cycle were to delay a little bit, it would affect them by a quarter. If it were to pull in by a quarter, it would affect them by a pull in of a quarter. And so those are kind of the dynamics of it. I think the net-net of it is that it's a foregone conclusion at this point that AI is is going to be the future of the way software is written. AI is the most powerful technology force of our time. And acceleration is the best path forward. And so that's what drives our computing business. And the networking business has everything to do with the way architecture of data centers, cloud data centers, which is architected with microservices now. And that's what foundationally drives than our networking business demand. And so we're really well positioned in these two fundamental dynamics because, as we know, AI is the future and cloud computing is the future. Both of those dynamics are very favorable to us.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Timothy Arcuri from UBS. Your line is open.
spk08: Thanks a lot. I wanted to ask a question about before and put it a different way. If I look at the core business excluding Mellanox, the core data center business, It was up about 6% sequentially the past two quarters, and, you know, your guidance sort of implies up about that much again in January, which is certainly good, you know, amid some cloud digestion. But, of course, you have Ampere still, you know, ramping as well, which should be a pretty good tailwind. So there seems to be some offsetting factors. So I guess I wonder if you feel like your core data center revenue is, you know, still being constrained right now by some market digestion and kind of how you sort of balance or handicap these two factors. Thanks.
spk11: Our growth is in the near term is more affected by the cycle time of manufacturing and flexibility of supply. We are in a good shape and all of our supply informs our guidance. But we would appreciate shorter cycle times. We would appreciate more agile supply chains. But, you know, the world is constrained at the moment. And so we just have to make the best of it. But even in that condition, even in that condition, all of that is really our responsibility. guidance and we expect to grow.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Aaron Rekers from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk02: Yeah, thanks for taking the question and also congratulations on the quarter. I wanted to go back to kind of the Mellanox question. I know prior to the acquisition, Mellanox was growing maybe in the mid to high 20% range. You know, these last two quarters it's grown over 75%. You know, I guess the simple question is how do you think about the growth rate for Mellanox going forward? And, you know, on that topic, we've started to hear you talk more about Bluefield and data processing units. I think in your commentary you alluded to server OEM design wins incorporating these DPUs. What are you looking at or when should we think about the DPU business really starting to inflect and become a material driver for the business? Thank you.
spk11: Long term, every computer in the world will be built like a data center. And every node of a data center is going to be a data center in itself. And the reason for that is because we want the attack surface to be basically zero. And today, most of the data centers are only protected at the periphery. But in the future, if you would like cloud computing to be the architecture for everything, and every data center is multi-tenant, every data center is secure, then you're going to have to secure every single node. And each one of those nodes are going to have software-depriving networking, software-depriving storage, and it's going to have per-application security. And And so the processing that it will need to offload the CPU is really quite significant. In fact, we believe that somewhere between 20% to 40% of today's data centers, cloud data centers, is the capacity, the throughput, the computational load is consumed running basically the infrastructure overhead. And that's what the DPU was intended, was designed to do. We're going to offload that, number one. And number two, we're going to make every single application secure. And confidential computing, zero-trust computing will become a reality. And so the importance is really quite tremendous. And I believe, therefore, that every single server in the world will have a DPU inside someday. just because we care so much about security and just because we care so much about throughput and TCL. It's really the most cost-effective way of building a data center. And so I expect RGP business to be quite large. And so that's the reason why we're putting so much energy into it. It's a programmable data center on a chip. a data center infrastructure on a chip. It is the reason why we're working with VMware on taking the operating system of the data center, the software-defined operating system of the data center, and putting it on Bluefield. And so this is a very important initiative for us. I'm very excited about it, as you can imagine.
spk06: Your next question comes from the line of Ambrish Srivastava. Srivastava from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
spk07: Yeah, thank you very much. Colette, and I apologize if I missed it, but for Mellanox, do you expect it to get back to the growth trajectory on a sequential basis in the April quarter? And I'm assuming that the shortfall in the current quarter is from a pull-in from Huawei?
spk04: So our impact to our Q4 guidance for Mellanox, yes, is impacted by a sale to a China OEM for Mellanox. That will not recur in Q4. As we look forth into Q1 of April, we're going to take this a quarter at a time and provide thoughts and guidance for that once we turn the corner to the new fiscal year.
spk11: At the highest level, Colette, I think it's safe to say that high-speed networking is going to be one of the most important things in cloud data centers as we go forward. And the vast majority of the world's data center is still built for the traditional hyper-converged architecture, which is all moving over to microservices-based, software-defined, disaggregated architectures. And that journey is still in its early days. So I fully expect future cloud data centers, all future data centers, are going to be connected with high-speed networking inside. They call it east-west traffic. And all of the traffic will be secure. And so imagine building firewalls into every single server. And imagine every single transaction, every single transmission inside the data center to be high-speed and fully encrypted. And so a pretty amazing amount of computation is going to have to be installed into future data centers. But that's an accepted requirement now. And I think our networking business now is in the early innings of growth.
spk06: Your final question today comes from the line of William Stein from Truist Securities. Your line is open. Great. Thanks for taking my question.
spk12: You've given us some pieces of this. uh puzzle but um i'm hoping maybe you can address directly the sort of um skew by skew rollout of ampere we know that uh we didn't have a ton of skews last quarter there were more in this quarter that you just uh announced now you're doing sort of this refresh it sounds like with uh double the memory on on the a100 um is the t4 going to be refreshed and if so uh when does that happen and are there other either systems or chips that are still waiting for the Ampere refresh that could potentially contribute to an extended cycle as we look at the next year?
spk11: Yeah, in terms of the total number of SKUs that we've ramped of Ampere, we're probably somewhere along a third to a half of the SKUs at this point, maybe a little bit less. Yeah, it's less. The way that you could think through it, you could reverse engineer it, is like this. You know what our gaming lineup looks like for desktops. Traditionally, we try to have a new architecture in every single segment. We've not gone below $499 yet. So there's a very big part of the marketplace that we're still in the process of addressing. And then the second thing is laptops. None of the Ampere architecture has launched for laptops. And then there's workstations. We do the same thing with desktops and workstations and laptops for workstations, and none of those have gone out yet. And then there's our data center. And our data center business for... For cloud, you've seen some of the early versions of it, A100. But then there's cloud computing for graphics. There's cloud gaming. There's enterprise, edge enterprise applications, enterprise data analytics applications. And so there's a fair number of exciting new products we still have in front of us.
spk06: That concludes our Q&A for today. I now turn the call back to Ms. Jankowski for closing remarks. Ms.
spk03: Jankowski Actually, that will be for Jensen.
spk11: Mr. Jankowski My apologies. Mr. Jankowski Okay. This was a terrific order. NVIDIA is firing on all cylinders. NVIDIA RTX has reinvented graphics and has made real-time ray tracing the standard of next-generation content, creating the best-ever reason to upgrade for hundreds of millions of NVIDIA gamers. AI, where software writes software no humans can, is the most powerful technology force of our time and is impacting every industry. NVIDIA AI again swept ML Perp training and now inference as well, extending our leadership in this important new way of doing computing. NVIDIA AI's new Triton Inference Server, a platform that I will speak a lot more about in the future and a lot more frequently because it's important, and our full-stack optimized platform are gaining rapid adoption to operate many of the world's most popular AI-enhanced services, opening a major growth opportunity. Data centers are the new unit of computing. Someday, we believe there will be millions of autonomous data centers distributed all over the globe. NVIDIA's Bluefield GPU programmable data center on a chip and our rich software stack will help place AI data centers in factories, warehouses, 5G base stations, and even on wheels. And with our pending acquisition of ARM, the company that builds the world's most popular CPU, we will create the computing company for the age of AI, with computing extending from the cloud to trillions of devices. Thank you for joining us today. I wish all of you a happy holidays, and please do stay safe, and I'll look forward to seeing you guys next time.
spk06: That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Disclaimer

This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

-

-